Is Lego Stealing People's Designs?
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@brickstudios I am the father from the father/son team that designed the original Ideas submission you are covering here. Were also participating in the BrickLink Designer Program series 4 with our truck design, but unfortunately the crowd support phase ended recently. Thanks so much for making a video on this topic. We believe the bin arm design that we released as a part of our LEGO Ideas submission was innovative and novel. We believe set 42167 would not exist as it does today unless we had released our idea on LEGO Ideas. A few important clarifications from my perspective:
1) We have received no credit or compensation from LEGO (other than the $500 in LEGO sets everyone who reaches 10k votes receives), nor from any of the (at least four that we know of) clone brick companies that copied our bin arm design and are selling sets based on it.
2) LEGO did not steal our idea. The already have full rights to it and would not need to steal it to make use of it however they want. As a part of LEGO Ideas participation you assign LEGO all rights worldwide to your idea for three years. When you submit an idea, you agree that:
“LEGO and co-marketing partners can use your contributions in any way and for any purpose”...
…“You agree that if the LEGO Group introduces a product similar to your idea or contest entry, whether accepted to or rejected from the site, you understand and acknowledge that any coincidence is unintentional, agree to indemnify and hold LEGO harmless and release LEGO from any and all claims of infringement.”
We participated in the LEGO Ideas program fully knowing this. LEGO is a huge corporation and is going to take actions in their best interest.
3) When we reached out to Hasan at LEGO Ideas about set 42167, a part of his response was “...inspiration for this design is not connected to your design”. To be completely honest we think this is disingenuous. If you look at the designs for LEGO side-loading garbage truck mechanisms before and after we released our design, it is clear that our design was innovative and has been frequently copied. Set 42167 and all of the clone sets sold show that there has been plenty of market demand for a functional LEGO side loading bin arm if one had existed. But one did not exist until we released our design. You've done a nice job of outlining the similarities between our design and set 42167.
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
Scott
Wow, thank you so much Scott! It's sad to see that Lego gets full rights to people's designs when they post to Lego ideas, I feel like they should at least give some credit in the manual or something if they do make a similar set. Thanks for commenting though, hopefully you'll be able to answer the community's questions!
Can you make instructions!!!
@@declan9550 We're currently participating in the BrickLink Designer Program Series 4 with the truck project. Apart from that, LEGO still holds full rights worldwide to our design until June 2024.
So you work for Lego for free. Nice.
Please make instructions so we can build it
Interesting that it's called a garbage truck, but everything about it screams recycle truck.
That’s because first you have to collect the garbage 😂
There's no difference
@NLGeebee I've always seen separate trucks and cans. There is no order to pickup.
I call it Bin truck
here in the uk we have both
No, not stolen in this case. This design is nothing close to the actuator assembly for picking up the garbage can submitted by Levi and Scott Hasse to Lego Ideas. I know because I did my best to replicate that design and showed how I did it on my channel two years ago. I got a positive response on my video from one of the original designers himself saying that I was close but not exactly the same and that they had even improved on their original design. This truck is awesome but the garbage can pickup assembly is completely different and even has that unique piece to accomplish the feat which isn't used at all in the Lego Ideas design. They also do not have the compactor.
@lifesabrick5104 the bin arm in 42167 actually is quite similar to our original design. Yes, they were able to use the new 45 degree knob gear that did not exist when we released our design in place of the smaller gears we used. They moved the half crown driving gear from the front to the middle, and they added a rubber band. But the fundamental function is basically the same.
Yes they don't have a compactor, but our claim is about the bin arm mechanism only.
@@scotthasse280 Thanks for your thoughts here as I didn't know you had made any claim actually. Sadly, this Technics mechanism is really inferior to your design in my opinion, especially with the addition of the rubber band. It's an odd design since they had the rights to yours from participating in the Lego Ideas Program. I still haven't quite perfected the compactor action yet, so I have to get back to that.
@@scotthasse280yea I do get that but can you really claim a arm design that can’t really be changed to function or build any other way. In my opinion I don’t believe they fully stole your idea they may have took some inspiration but there isn’t enough similarities in the design.I guess you could maybe say it’s yours but you did kind of write of the rights to your design when you submitted it to ideas
@@BorgiaFawcett I don't think I understand your post. Our claim is that our bin arm design inspired the bin arm design in set 42167. LEGO has said there was no inspiration. As we have clarified we assigned rights and are not making any claims of stealing or copyright violation.
How does a design that in your opinion "can’t really be changed to function or build any other way" have anything to do with if it inspired another design or not? No functional minifig scale LEGO bin arm design existed until we released our design and since then it has been widely copied.
I can totally see why the original would not make it as an Ideas set. There's no specific size or theme requirement for Ideas, but there is still a general premium vibe, and the garbage truck just screams standard Lego City... but then theres the question of why Lego couldn't have just offered to scale it back into a City set and call it a day because it would be a freaking instant buy for City fans.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they still make smaller Technic (in fact after the proliferation and later abandonment of CCBS and Bionicle I feel like Technic is under utilized as a theme), but a garbage truck at this scale is a no brainer design for Lego City, over you know, the 57th fire truck.
Maybe due to the current lego city not really having much ideas. They have odd things the wierdest I have seen is the naming of every figure which is silly as people far prefer nameless characters in the generic city builder sets allowing you to make people up but naming them just makes them already existing.
This is what I miss about Lego Ideas. We used to get smaller cheaper sets like the Delorean, Ecto 1, Tron Lightcycles. Now it's just been converted into only premium sets so if something is being made, it usually has to be an 18+ level set
bro who in their right mind would throw a blue stud into the thrash can. the stud is worth 1000 currency a piece.
the consumerism is real.........
Well it's actually a blue flat stud, so the price is probably a little lower lol
is it as much as a purple stud?
It’s like they only looked at the most simplest aspects of the Ideas design and didn’t account for all the specific issues that the Ideas design addressed
This happens a lot.
I remember the first notable time was with the Ghostbusters Firehouse, Cloud City (although not an ideas design, there was a very similar concept posted online two years before the release of the official one), this garbage truck, and now the Seven Dwarf’s Cottage. Probably missing some.
When Lego has so many concepts to choose from, and so many ways to execute them, but with their almost limitless system somehow ending up with sets looking very similar to popular fan creations, it’s hard to believe these are all just coincidences.
I never said anything about the terms and conditions of Ideas that protect Lego from every legal situation. I said their designers take obvious inspiration from fan builds. Legal or not, it's immoral and a company the size of Lego should do better.@@bloodymarvelous4790
I don't really believe that Lego stole this idea from anyone. When making a garbage truck out of Lego pieces, there is only so much you can do regarding it's mechanism. Both models' mechanisms are obviously taken from the real life counterpart, so naturally a good mechanism in Lego would be heavily reminiscent of the way a real Garbage truck functions. Lego's Technic series prides it's self on realism both visually and mechanically. I don't think it would be too far off for them to create something similar to someone else's model just because that's the way something works in real life. Also the way the Technic model is built is different from the Lego Ideas model. The only similarity is the way it grabs, picks up and dumps a trashcan. This is of course because of what it's based on. Also, Lego has never really been know to steal designs from their fans to my knowledge. I feel like if they really wanted that exact mechanism and build to be in a set, they would just go through with making the Lego Ideas version a real one. They've never really had a problem doing that. I just think this is a coincidence due to them both being mechanically functioning garbage trucks.
@yamarlamar1080 The mechanism we designed does not actually function how a real garbage truck side-loading arm functions in real life. Those typically independent hydraulic actuation for the grab and lift (and other) movements. Or perhaps electric in the case of the Mack electric side-loader. We innovated a single action gear-based mechanism to mimic achieve the same function at minifig scale. This took a lot of design refinement and is only obvious in hindsight. Nothing like it existed for that purpose before we released our design.
You are right that there are differences in the truck design, but our claims are about the bin arm mechanism only.
Bro put more effort into this than I did on my English essay
@@scotthasse280Sorry to say this, but this style of arm is pretty old news actually.
The oldest example I can think of is this Technic set from 1997, which is coincidentally also a garbage truck: th-cam.com/video/D5s9NLB1OvI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IauAXUoEPQDNYZrJ
It uses a wire linkage to drive the grabbers instead of gears, but the basic principle of using one axle to power both a grabbing and lifting motion is the same.
I also used to take part in FLL Lego robot competitions throughout the 2010s and this kind of mechanism was pretty much the go-to standard for collecting objects off the ground. Here is an example of a robot using that kind of arm from 2009: th-cam.com/video/h3PS7nIihOw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4lkjASNXdFidCsMk
Here is an entire playlist with similar designs, many of which use gears like you did, and several of which even use your design of having the rotation axle gear directly connect at a 90°angle: m.th-cam.com/video/PQI66KsRsqM/w-d-xo.html&pp=iAQB
In fact, this particular video from over 6 years ago is basically your exact design at a slightly bigger scale: th-cam.com/video/tS2v-uC0GOQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cXn-z_qauzUXaBA2
These kinds of arms are incredibly useful for robotics competitions and people have probably built then in just about every shape imaginable for decades.
Now, to be clear, your particular design is still incredibly impressive for its miniaturization factor. In fact, I distinctly remember trying to build something similar at one point during my childhood, but not managing to get the mechanism remotely small enough, so the fact that you built one that can not only fit inside a minifig scale city set, but do so elegantly, is fucking amazing. But Lego didn't steal your hyper-minaturized design, they just built a similar arm at a more normal size based on a design that has been pretty well established for decades (at least in the space of Lego robotics)
@@hellothere_1257 No need to apologize. We're not claiming to have invented the mechanism, but we do believe the combination of scale, functionality, method of actuation, and purpose are novel and required significant innovation. Some of which you've pointed out in your post. I appreciate your detailed post with references, many of which I had not seen before.
The reality is that the (at least) four clone sets released, the numerous fan builders that have reverse engineered our design and set 42167 show that there has been plenty of market demand for a smoothly functional minifig scale side-loading garbage truck mechanism had one existed. But one did not exist until we released our design. Since then our specific design has been widely copied by Lepin, Xingbao and other clone companies. Set 42167 is slightly larger but has the same functionality, method of actuation and purpose as our design. There is no legal problem here with LEGO, as we have assigned LEGO rights to our idea per participation in LEGO Ideas.
However, LEGO has told us officially that "LEGO Ideas as a platform for fan submissions is not a platform that’s used by our internal teams as inspiration to create future sets. It’s critical to the integrity and success of LEGO Ideas that LEGO Ideas submissions are treated separately from our internal product development process and that these two processes do not overlap." (which I generally believe they do aspire to). But further "... inspiration for this design [set 42167] is not connected to your design". Honestly to me this seems disingenuous. I think even a casual observer who knows how passionate the LEGO designers are about researching the topic they are given to design can see there is inspiration from our design.
i got this yesterday and i thought the exact same thing
also some tips for people who have this truck
1. remove the rubber band so you have better control over the arm
2. if you want to collect smaller bins, take off the black cushions on the grippers
i would also love if the entire arm assembly can reach out and grab carts at further distances
7:37 the way the claw picked it up was so smooth 😅
This is just how a garbage truck works, also it’s technic. The people who made the original set wanted it to be made into a set.
It's not actually how a garbage truck works, at least not with that specific mechanism. The base concept is the same but actual garbage trucks use a 3-DOF (plus gripper) hydraulically actuated arm rather than a single-action locked-gear grabbing arm. However, this mechanism sees a LOT of use elsewhere.
Yes. Next question?
To be completely accurate, it is not legally "stealing" since you wave any right when you apply to the Ideas program, but there are no less than 25 ideas that reached 10'000 supporters, didn't got approved, and somehow become a set less than a three years later...
they probably made the same mechanism because that’s the way you make a garbage truck claw thing 🐐
@Underkill635 how this mechanism works is actually not how a real garbage truck works. Set 42167, the cloned copies of our set, and the numerous passionate builders that have enthusiastically praised and re-created our design show there has been plenty of market demand for a functional side loading bin arm if one had existed. But one did not exist until we released our design. It is only obvious in hindsight.
they done same on the orrery (42179) but the first design was in 2013 by maxifigure and in 2016 JKBrickworks upgraded it.
fun fact: all orreries lack elliptical orbit for the seasons.
The system to lift up the garbage can is called a manipulator, I have used Lego manipulators in WRO last year. I can say these have been around for a lot of time. And as the top comment said, Lego can sometimes deny projects they are already planning. So I don’t think that that Lego copied it since the mechanic has been around for a while and a Lego garbage truck does sound like something Lego would release on its own
I think this warrants a look at the LEGO Ideas ToS. LEGO very well could have "stolen" the mechanical design from the Ideas submission, but legally still have the rights to it due to their ToS claiming some form of ownership over all submissions regardless of status.
I've long loathed Lego Technic Panels for anything other that aesthetic covering. I prefer to use more Technic Beas rather than the panels to acheive smoother more functional purpose.
If i remember correctly, this set was in production when the ideas truck uploaded.
We originally uploaded our truck design to LEGO Ideas in 2019, long before this set or the actual Mack electric garbage truck existed. Not sure if you are thinking of our recent BrickLink Designer Program series 4 participation?
@@scotthasse280 ahh i see. My bad! That is very suspicious on Legos part... hmm
This is one of the best sets for the money. Fun to build, fun to play with, and looks good on display. I wish there were more sets like this with as much functionality.
Yes. Its not just a toy company, its a $11.8 Billion company. The beast somehow needs to get fed.
The axis that connects the rear door with the body 10:06 has 2 round pieces on its left end, but nothing on the right. I made it look symmetrical by using the round elements from the left-over pieces and added them on the right end of the axis.
The set also has an issue, that the printed tile next to the grabber is pushed loose by the grabber. And the elastic already broke in my set.
It would be interesting to merge the official with the unofficial. Have the new peice and also make it the more reliable version. Would be interesting
when you submit your work to the Ideas page, you agree with the conditions and TLG can use your work by some time, this is how it works then - there were few more issues with "stealing" the idea, look to the latest Snow White's set :)
I wish these vidoes would be rotated 180 degrees so I wasn’t seeing it upside down
Try putting your monitor right side up. That might help.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 I don’t have a lizard.
I think it looks like Lego is actually listening to its community, Which they should have DONE YEARS AGO
If Lego ideas projects don't become true, knock off brands will release the sets earlier 😢
Why wouldn't they coppied it? They have right to do it.
When you enter LEGO Ideas Set there's whole article about that LEGO can use any ideas that are put on the site.
It’s possible that LEGO took the design, but the way the mechanism works isn’t new to the Ideas submission so there’s no way to be certain.
There are some old sets (8094, 8868, 8479, and 9736) that were much larger and clunkier, used pneumatics, cable linkages, or much longer gear trains, along with motors, and had grab and lift or grab and drop functions versus grab and dump. Can you provide an example of something of a similar scale, method, function, and actuation pre-dating our Ideas submission?
We're not aware of anything even close to our design prior to us releasing our bin arm design, and the bin arm in set 42167 is very close to our design in terms of scale, method (basically the same gear train), function (dump a trash can and return it) and actuation (a single hand-operated motion to lift, dump, return and release).
Also for our design to not have inspired the LEGO design, it implies that a Technic designer was assigned the job to work on a side-loading garbage truck project and had no awareness of our side-loading bin arm mechanism, including any of:
* Our original LEGO Ideas submission
* Our popular Reddit r/lego post
* The JK Brickworks video highlighting our bin arm mechanism
* The Beyond the Brick video highlighting our truck project
* The Lepin clone set using our bin arm mechanism
* The Xingbao clone sets using our bin arm mechanism
* The other clone sets using our bin arm mechanism
* The intellectual property that LEGO owns (assigned by us) which includes the digital design and building instructions of our truck and mechanism.
And that they did no research once being assigned the project that would create awareness of any of those things. And then they created the set 42167 bin arm mechanism independently. That seems a bit far-fetched to me. If you've seen any of the LEGO designer videos you know how passionate they are and how they research the design topic they are given.
Is it just me or opening? The bags are super satisfying in a Lego set
This guy when he realizes both trucks have the exact same functions and ones a technic set, so it isn’t copying 😱
Seriously though saying Lego is copying someone’s idea is super exaggerating, they’re similar yes but it isn’t copying.
So legos not allowed to make a toy truck the only way possible
As a Lego fan and observer who hasn’t watched the video I’m going to say ….. yes, quite obviously.
There no denying that lego steals fan designs
it makes me mad how gentle u are with the bags and box
it's completely different, one is technic and the other is brick built
Our claim is about the bin arm mechanism only. Of course yes the trucks themselves are different, and LEGO has made lots of garbage truck sets in the past.
The fan design was so much better; they even came with a design for the bins to remain closed except when inclines so it opens when the truck picks it and closes when the truck puts it down.
The fan designed garbage truck is now a project you can vote for in the bricklink designer program; one last chance to turn it into an official Lego set!
These colors that are all over the place are hurting my eyes.
As someone said below in the very moment you summit an idea on lego ideas the concept is owned by lego, but is evident that they are making lot of sets based on lego ideas. Personally I really think that these legos should address some credit to the original idea submit independently the theme. That could make fans more happy and could make look lego more honest. For sure in some cases I am sure that Lego may been working on some things much before the lego ideas summits
As much as Lego look cool, they are still a multimi/billionaire company. Do this kind of thing is just normal for all companies.
I find it funny non Lego designers make better thing most of the time
can you make a microphone stand with lego?
2:03 bro did mining off camera💀
PS: and 4:48
Yeah I tend to forget to press record for time lapses 😂
They clearly state that you moc will become under lego right meaning they can do whatever they want and you cant say a damn thing. Thats cheap but thats why i dont support nor post moc on their site.
Man why can’t people just let Lego make a garbage truck
Ya LEGO's taking peoples designs, they tweak the design so it's not a one to one copy and done. Looks like who ever was in charge of tweaking it messed up on it.
The only reason they could steal it, is so the Ideas designer doesnt get royalties on the set. but LEGO love the community so i'd assume this genuinely was under development before the Idea was published to the site
Even if it wasn't, the IDEAS submission never had a chance of being approved. It was basically a LEGO City set with some Technic functionality. There already were LEGO City garbage trucks in 2010, 2012, and 2016. This set would not have sold well as an IDEAS set.
I saw this father & son design at Brickworld Chicago in 2019. I thought it was great & should be a set.
A lot of ppl thought the same and were ready to buy the set. Plain and Simple, LEGO screwed those designers!
This product is licensed so they would have had to significantly alter the physical design of it so that it resembled the vehicle in real life.
Interesting,I think Lego has coped a little of there set because real trucks arm are pretty hard to copy in to the Lego form. Great video btw!
imagine being so good even Lego copies you and yet fails.
Lego just skip the middle man and went straight to the Manufacturer of the Truck ..
It would suck if Lego was "stealing", but I'm not convinced they are. I guess, I'd be curious to see how one of those pinchers works in real life. Maybe we should look it up. 🤣.Can you imagine how much it would suck, if every time a person built something using a technique, no one else could ever do it that way? Lego even gives away their instructions online. I think you nailed it when you mentioned inspiration. I also believe it's possible for more than one person to come up with similar ideas independently. Great video, very thought provoking!🔥
The Lego community has not read the ideas guidelines. If you post an idea on lego ideas lego owns the rights to your moc for 6-7 years
The creator of the original designs knows this, they just want acknowledgement from Lego that they used part of their design as far as I can tell. (Never gonna happen)
This argument is like people who record a dance on TikTok . If they think that with 8bn people in the world no one else has ever done the same thing before, they are delusional.
I don't know, when Lego denied the build, but Xingbao has this kind of "grab and empty"-technique since 2 or 3 years. (Set.-No. XBA-18017 and XBA-18016)
Xingbao also copied our bin arm design. We released our design in 2019, over 5 years ago.
I would rather have the Cities garbage truck than the technic garbage truck. The Cities garbage truck is much more charming.
Use a box lid! Never dump your bags just on a table!
The mechanism is identical and at the same time it's different, lol
Both appear to be based on some of the very varied designs and mechanisms of actual garbage trucks - i.e. they both copied the real world ...
I think they did the same thing with a Ghostbusters firehouse set
for me I think the reason why it got denied is because it would be too complicated. Like who are the city sets usually made for? like 6-9 year olds. So making a set with wierd connections and new gears to young kids who dont understand it. It would probably be too hard and thats why they made it a technic set
In 2019 I submitted my 3 foot tall G-1 Optimus Prime and was denied due to Lego not holding a license for Transformers. We all know what set came out no long after that... Mine is still 1000 times better though.
I literally pointed this out to my mom the day this came out
I own this set it’s actually one of my favourite in my city that black technic piece that slightly sticks out is meant to be the part you try to align flesh with the recycling bin so the arms can grab it at a proper angle so the bin doesn’t really tilt or fall that much if that makes sense
8:45 you just described the difference between american engineering vs German engineering. American is simple, and geeman is over engineered.
There are no germans in this equation lol
I have 3 sets of the Mack and I just build the pieces into trailers and whatnot
OMG you dump your smaller bag contents with your bigger bag contents no way
That toad is cursed
I think they decided to reconsider the set but they failed in making the mechanism.
Didn't the father and son not copy it from a real dumping truck too though?
Like, if i submit a square house with a triangle roof and it doesn't get approved, and the very next model house has the same shape as mine, it wouldn't bother me that much as i still have my lil' house.
It's not copied because Lego made a working garbage truck, it's that the mechanism between the two is so similar.
Our mechanism does not work the same as a real dumping truck which uses hydraulics and independent actuation of the grab and dump motions. It took significant innovation to achieve consistent results at minifig scale with a single motion. Nothing like what we designed existed before in terms of scale, purpose, method, and function. Set 42167 and all of the clone sets that use our bin arm design show that there has been plenty of market demand for a functional LEGO side-loading arm if one had existed. But one did not exist until we released our design, which is only obvious in hindsight.
I think they copied him because the original designer probably was sad he did not approve
I dont think its stolen for a few reasons. 1 lego ideas sets that make it in are usually something unique or something from a entirely different theme. A garbage truck feels really close to city and indeed lego city has made garbage trucks before. 2 it would mean they had to reverse innovate and literally make a design worse. i dont see why they would steal a design just to make it rely on a rubber band as well as use a ramp to move the trash to the back area when the original worked so much better.
I have a say which tell if you tought about something, high are the chances that someone else, elsewhere, thought about the exact same thing,or similar one. It's even truer with Lego where they have a limited (still a lot) variety of parts.
Most likely they already were designing it
Perhaps a case of it would have been better if they had copied. The mechinism seems to be just a nice simple solution for the movement required that can easilly be come up with independently... but everything else about it just doesnt work out.
NO WAY I BUILT THIS!
Mindstorms before nxt used to always use that mechanism for grabbers
they defiantly copied
maybe lego has a non compete deal with mack
Hard to push up? Might wanna hit the gym.
100% er zijn dingen veranderd simpel als het voor de rechter zou komen ze kunnen aantonen dat het niet op het ontwerp lijkt
What?!?! LEGO copying other ideas,? Who could imagine such a thing? Certainly not Kiddicraft. And 2013's LEGENDS OF CHIMA is nothing at all like 2011's THUNDERCATS
12:19 Bro has the Lego titanic!
Wow, I'm surprised you could tell that was Titanic box with only seeing the top!
That's just not cool I was really hoping the original would make it to be a Lego set, And I definitely think the original is much better also in that it fits with Lego city and how it was brilliantly designed to be so small.
I think it’s just the most logical way of making a lego trash truck… that’s why a father and son managed to do it too. Nothing to see here
If you're talking about the bin arm mechanism, if it is the most logical way, then why wasn't it developed sooner than when we released our LEGO Ideas design in 2019? Market demand from the cloned sets and 42167 show there has been plenty of demand for a functional side-loading bin arm had one existed. But one did not exist until we released our design on LEGO Ideas. It is only obvious in hindsight.
@@scotthasse280 perhaps, but that doesn’t change the fact that your design is not revolutionary. Many legos have more complicated mechanisms and they’ve created one of the most popular brands ever.. they did that without you.
@@223boyz7 You seem to be confused about what we're claiming. We're not claiming the design is revolutionary or the most complicated or that we had anything to with the success of the LEGO brand. We're claiming that the bin arm in set 42167 is inspired by our design.
Again, if you think our design was so obvious ("the most logical way"), why did a functional minifig-scale bin arm not exist before we released our design in 2019? The parts we used have existed for a long time. There has been demand in the market.
For what it's worth, designers like JK Brickworks and Wintergatan have called our brilliant.
@@scotthasse280 fair point Scott 🫡
I was wondering about that... I saw that come through and i instantly remembered the ideas build... mainly because I tried reproducing the mechanism at home since i thought it was really neat. Hm.
Why do you act so surprised over everything?? I thought you were a Lego expert.
Maybe they denied it cause they already planning to make this set
razor crest ucs is a copy of two mocs.
I see a Union Pacific gevo in the background
Yeah, it's my custom Lego moc! I have instructions for it on my site brickstudios.store if you wanna check it out
Hmmmmmm…maybe Lego liked it but since it didn’t get enough votes, they couldn’t ‘officially’ make it into a set.
It did get enough votes, Lego just denied it.
@@brickstudiosYT I know, but maybe Lego saw it and wanted to use that mechanism but couldn’t make it an Ideas set as that would be unfair.
@@clanpinguini5850 How would that be unfair? We did submit it as an Ideas set and did achieve 10k supporters. LEGO evaluated the set and decided not to make it.
@@scotthasse280 just realised that I read the reply wrong. Ignore my earlier response.
the father andsons idea is alot like current garbage trucks (the lifter and compacter)
Still the same video title even after it was clarified that Lego didn’t steal anything?
First design was better and they copped it
I got this lego set and I did not build it yet so I am going to make a video of it
I did not want to make a video but I am almost done
so instead of a cool playable minifig scale one, they made a useless ugly technic one
i just opened amazon like 2 seconds when the video started and i found this set lol
Mine came in paper bags 😭 😭
Why did Lego copy rite?
I was thinking the same thing
Lego stop stealing peoples ideas