It's worth noting that the caffeine dose is going to be pretty aggressive here. Whole coffee beans are 1.5-3% caffeine, so a 3oz bar (the recipe is 33% coffee by weight) is going to be equivalent to about 4-8 cups of coffee. The full recipe as written is 24-48 cups!
@@hjewkes holy hell lol that's way more than I would have guessed. I can imagine just unwrapping my nice homemade coffee bar and eating a few pieces when my heart starts palpating lmao
Nile does food too. They could totally do a great collaboration together! Or they could switch channels and video styles so they can introduce their fans together and grow their channels.
I don't know if they are available in your country, but Ferrero produces "Pocket coffee", a shell of dark chocolate containing a shot of liquid espresso coffe. Here in Italy are a must for university students...
@@Beregorn88 We have packets of dark chocolate coated expresso beans here in the US, as well as more alternatives for drinkable caffeine than I can count, but there is just something about a bar of coffee that seems so wrong but so very right.
Thank you for all the work you do. I know hospitals have been an absolutely nightmarish place to work for the last 2 years or so, so I commend you for sticking with it and doing your best to help people. I wish you many good naps :)
There must be a perfect blend of coffee and chocolate for a brewed drink, and there must be a perfect blend of coffee and chocolate for a delicious snack bar.
Try Scho-Ka-Kola, if it's available wherever you live. It's often called "Autofahrerschokolade" here, driver's chocolate, because...well, kind of obvious. It's made from cocoa, cola nuts and coffee- the first time I tried it, I thought it's just chocolate in a fancy packaging and ate the full package. Good times!
@@calum5975 well. Same idea, but rather low on the "methamphetamine" ingredient. If it was the same thing, you likely couldn't buy it at gas stations, but rather behind them
Just this morning, I had a shower thought wondering if "coffee bars" could be a thing. And of course, the all-knowing TH-cam algorithm suggested this video to me.
Honestly I'm surprised he hasn't commented here yet, this is absolutely in his wheelhouse of novel and interesting ways of using coffee. I know he has had a recent video talking about how coffee is used in a lot of things it (probably) shouldn't be, but honestly this has a lot of potential for exploring the flavours of many different roasts and varietals.
This is a question I've had for a looong time and I'm so glad someone finally did this (and confirmed my suspicions about fat content and needing to add some). I guess the reason why this is not commercially for sale is the high caffeine content - it wouldn't be responsible to sell this off-the-shelf, and there's definitely parents who would see this stuff marketed as 'chocolate made from coffee' and assume it was safe for kids because chocolate is safe for kids... so I guess it would be more of an analog to things like Red Bull and Monster. Hell, one of those brands could make big money selling this in bite-sized bars with individual wrappers, as long as they make it clear that one of said bite-sized bars equals a whole can of red bull. Or multiple, I don't know the exact amount of caffeine that would be in, say, 50 grams of this.
This made me crave something I used to eat all the time when I was a teenager after I began working. I haven’t eaten them since: chocolate covered coffee beans! So yummy, and a great pick-me up. :)
Chocolate coated coffee beans are one of those treats that I'd only run into at moments when I absolutely don't need either coffee or chocolate...I'd still take it though.
Very cool, would love to taste that stuff! There's that German chocolate product called Scho-Ka-Kola which contains finely ground coffee beans, but only 2.6%. It also contains finely ground cola nut. It was introduced in 1936 and in WW2 was included in nazi pilot rations, therefore also being called "Fliegerschokolade" ('airman chocolate'), not to be confused with "Panzerschokolade" ('tank chocolate') or "Fliegermarzipan" ('airman marzipan'), two nicknames for methamphetamine back then, which nazi soldiers also consumed a lot.
Wasn't just the soldiers juiced up on meth, the citizens were too. The way the German military's doctrine was at the time was to bum rush with fast mobility and then wait for supplies for another bum rush, as a result the level of productivity required to maintain such a supply line skyrocketed like the V2s and the citizens were given the meth to keep production up.
first of all, i have been thinking this for a few years now since i learned about how they process coffee and chocolate. up until a point, coffee and chocolate beans are processed the same way. i always thought you could use chocolate and coffee beans interchangably. so thank you for trying to make a chocolate bar using coffee beans. SECOND OF ALL, dang it, now i really do want one of these chocolate grinding wheels. i saw one last year and really wanted one, but did not have the kitchen space for it. but now you make me want one.
Thank you for all the effort you put into making such entertaining and educational videos! I really enjoy learning new things about food, especially experimental stuff like this!
i saw the chocolate was a little melty idk if you already did this. But by tempering the chocolate yo make it shinier have more of a snap and make it melt in your hand less. you can temper by heating the chocolate in a double boiler and putting some on a wax paper letting the wax strip cool and see if it snaps.
Please never put anything hot onto wax paper! Best case scenario, it's cool enough that it doesn't effect the wax. Worst case, you put something just a touch too hot down and you end up with a layer of wax fused to the bottom of whatever you put on it. Just use baker's paper instead
I had this idea with peanuts (since they have a little more fat inside) but i have no equipment to do it, also just today i thought about using a mix of peanut butter and cocoa powder to simulate a nutella style cream or maybe a bar ( but this because in my country a nutella pot is like 20% of my payment LOL ) .. If you want to use the ideas i would love to see if it works
You guys think maybe a mix with cocoa fat to make it solid at room temperature would work ? At this point the peanuts would be there for flavor like the coffee on the video... Not a bad thing but i was trying to do a more inexpensive bar changing the cocoa fat that is super expensive around here
@@__Rodrigo__ looking it up, coconut, avacado, palm, palm kernel, animal, and hydrogenated oils/butters/fats are all solid at room temperature (though structural integrity may vary, and there are probably more not listed). you could probably use one of those as a substitute for cocoa butter, probably palm oil as it's already used in various mass produced "chocolate", or a refined coconut butter if you want to be more healthy (unless you're allergic). i would also be interested in seeing a 'meat chocolate' made from animal fat, i don't think that's ever been tried before, and i kinda want to know how it would taste lol
I'm glad to see someone has done it, I've been thinking of this possibility for a while now. It'd be cool to test if there are any other nuts or beans we could "chocolitify"
Since I cannot eat any cocoa-related components, I was always looking for some chocolate replacement but with a similar taste. Hopefully one day they create something like that :D
Would you recommend doing it in a blender or food processor until it forms a paste then add some whole milk and set it on the stove until all the sugar has dissolved then pouring it into the mold and placing it in the fridge?? the milk would cut down on the bitterness but it would be less concentrated.
Just drop a few pieces of that into a cup of steamed milk and stir it up and you've got an unusual but pleasant start to your day. Or just eat it. That works too.
Most likely, nobody wants to make it because some idiot somewhere would eat the whole thing and have a heart attack from the caffeine load, and the company would get sued into oblivion. Afterward, there would be laws made against products with that much caffeine.... and that's how stupid people proliferate and why the rest of us can't have nice things.
Not to make this a series but, Pistachio? Edit:Pistachio is about 69% fat and liquid at room temp apparently, do you'd need a way to remove it without removing too much flavour. Unsure if the idea would actually work now
well the worst thing you could get is something like italian pistacchio cream, and in case someone doesnt know: italian pistacchio cream is THE shit. try it!
Hello, just wondering. Do you think I'll get the same or similar results if I used, coffee grounds, or instant coffee and coconut oil? Love to hear from you!! By the way, I've subscribed to your channel!!
What would happen if you substitute coco butter with coffee oil? So instead of adding coco butter to it, you add more coffee oil, will it behave the same and produce the same result?
@@AngieGandalf6 Ah, it needs to be solid at room temp huh, it's often sold as liquid in room tempt but I don't know if that's because of the manufacturing process or is that it's natural state
Kudos for using a very nice coffee, not something charred to ashes. And yes, people do occasionally die from caffeine overdose, so it's worth mentioning.
Wouldn't it have been better to use coffee bean oil/butter for the chocolate making instead ofn the cocao butter? I know the roasted coffee beans themselves don't have much oil, but there is coffee bean oil on the market you can buy.
hmm, why not grind a bunch of coffee till its super fine in water, then simmer it to get the oil out, and add the oil to a new batch of coffee beans to up the oil content and make a pure coffee, “cofelate” bar
*Accidentally eats the whole bar.*
"I can see the fabric of time and space"
He IS the Kwisatz Haderach!
Becomes Quicksilver
"accidentally"?
“I can see sounds!”
“Has heart attack”
It's worth noting that the caffeine dose is going to be pretty aggressive here. Whole coffee beans are 1.5-3% caffeine, so a 3oz bar (the recipe is 33% coffee by weight) is going to be equivalent to about 4-8 cups of coffee. The full recipe as written is 24-48 cups!
Would be great for grating on top of a hot chocolate / coffee
The recipe in the description bar says a third is coffee beans. Still sounds like a lot of caffeine though.
@@choddle8427 Great catch! So a 3oz bar will be about 4-8 cups, and the whole batch is like 25-50 cups lol
So this is essentially an energy booster, I could imagine that being desirable by some people.
@@hjewkes holy hell lol that's way more than I would have guessed. I can imagine just unwrapping my nice homemade coffee bar and eating a few pieces when my heart starts palpating lmao
NileRed but for food :P
My first thought
"NileFed"?
And hes not trying to give the illuminati ideas about feeding us sawdust unlike nilered
Nile does food too. They could totally do a great collaboration together! Or they could switch channels and video styles so they can introduce their fans together and grow their channels.
Better.
"makin a chocolate bar out of coffee"
Me, a clinically depressed hospital worker that pulls 12 hours shifts: God, is that you?
I don't know if they are available in your country, but Ferrero produces "Pocket coffee", a shell of dark chocolate containing a shot of liquid espresso coffe. Here in Italy are a must for university students...
@@Beregorn88 We have packets of dark chocolate coated expresso beans here in the US, as well as more alternatives for drinkable caffeine than I can count, but there is just something about a bar of coffee that seems so wrong but so very right.
Thank you for all the work you do. I know hospitals have been an absolutely nightmarish place to work for the last 2 years or so, so I commend you for sticking with it and doing your best to help people. I wish you many good naps :)
There must be a perfect blend of coffee and chocolate for a brewed drink, and there must be a perfect blend of coffee and chocolate for a delicious snack bar.
Try Scho-Ka-Kola, if it's available wherever you live. It's often called "Autofahrerschokolade" here, driver's chocolate, because...well, kind of obvious.
It's made from cocoa, cola nuts and coffee- the first time I tried it, I thought it's just chocolate in a fancy packaging and ate the full package. Good times!
@@Ephedr1n Isn't that the chocolate they gave the German soldiers in WW2. Apparently it's very highly valued outside of Germany.
@@Ephedr1n Never seen actual Schokakola IRL, and i'm a Scandinavian truckdriver and WW2 history buff best believe I would have bought it lmao
@@calum5975 well. Same idea, but rather low on the "methamphetamine" ingredient. If it was the same thing, you likely couldn't buy it at gas stations, but rather behind them
@@Grandmaster-Kush if you're a regional driver I doubt you'll see it. If international, then you should be able to stack up on German gas stations
I very much appreciate the chef john, ooool' tappa tappa reference ;)
You are, after all, the star, of your coffee chocolate bar.
Hahaha! Yes!
I have _always_ thought about something like this. Never had the equipment to make it happen, so watching you do it was immensely satisfying :)
Just this morning, I had a shower thought wondering if "coffee bars" could be a thing. And of course, the all-knowing TH-cam algorithm suggested this video to me.
This seems like something James Hoffman would be interested in. Honestly I'd buy some myself.
I'd love it if he made a video talking about this.
Honestly I'm surprised he hasn't commented here yet, this is absolutely in his wheelhouse of novel and interesting ways of using coffee. I know he has had a recent video talking about how coffee is used in a lot of things it (probably) shouldn't be, but honestly this has a lot of potential for exploring the flavours of many different roasts and varietals.
M&S in the UK do a Latte Coffee Kick bar. White chocolate and coffee, just like here.
This is a question I've had for a looong time and I'm so glad someone finally did this (and confirmed my suspicions about fat content and needing to add some). I guess the reason why this is not commercially for sale is the high caffeine content - it wouldn't be responsible to sell this off-the-shelf, and there's definitely parents who would see this stuff marketed as 'chocolate made from coffee' and assume it was safe for kids because chocolate is safe for kids... so I guess it would be more of an analog to things like Red Bull and Monster. Hell, one of those brands could make big money selling this in bite-sized bars with individual wrappers, as long as they make it clear that one of said bite-sized bars equals a whole can of red bull. Or multiple, I don't know the exact amount of caffeine that would be in, say, 50 grams of this.
maybe they could try using decaf coffee???
I love this channel because you try different stuff that genuinely piques my curiosity.
This made me crave something I used to eat all the time when I was a teenager after I began working. I haven’t eaten them since: chocolate covered coffee beans! So yummy, and a great pick-me up. :)
My friend introduced me to those.... Not had them for 20 years.
Oh my goodness. Walmart sold the blueberry chocolate ones when I was in my teens. Those things kept me going through my Astronomy classes.
Actually I've just looked and you can get them on Amazon
Chocolate coated coffee beans are one of those treats that I'd only run into at moments when I absolutely don't need either coffee or chocolate...I'd still take it though.
Very cool, would love to taste that stuff!
There's that German chocolate product called Scho-Ka-Kola which contains finely ground coffee beans, but only 2.6%. It also contains finely ground cola nut. It was introduced in 1936 and in WW2 was included in nazi pilot rations, therefore also being called "Fliegerschokolade" ('airman chocolate'), not to be confused with "Panzerschokolade" ('tank chocolate') or "Fliegermarzipan" ('airman marzipan'), two nicknames for methamphetamine back then, which nazi soldiers also consumed a lot.
I was thinking the same thing, even though this chocolate is not made in the same way.
Was gonna comment about scho-ka-cola! It is possible to still buy it, I know varusteleka carries some.
Wasn't just the soldiers juiced up on meth, the citizens were too. The way the German military's doctrine was at the time was to bum rush with fast mobility and then wait for supplies for another bum rush, as a result the level of productivity required to maintain such a supply line skyrocketed like the V2s and the citizens were given the meth to keep production up.
But does that actually have enough caffeine or should I stick to Mate?
@@paris5410 it's pretty potent chocolate, I'd highly recommend trying it
first of all, i have been thinking this for a few years now since i learned about how they process coffee and chocolate. up until a point, coffee and chocolate beans are processed the same way. i always thought you could use chocolate and coffee beans interchangably.
so thank you for trying to make a chocolate bar using coffee beans.
SECOND OF ALL, dang it, now i really do want one of these chocolate grinding wheels. i saw one last year and really wanted one, but did not have the kitchen space for it. but now you make me want one.
**eats the whole bar before the test**
_i'm going to die_
Neat :)
Would be interesting to see something like a mole with the coffee bar as I've decided to call it the crossover would be cool
Thank you for all the effort you put into making such entertaining and educational videos! I really enjoy learning new things about food, especially experimental stuff like this!
2 videos into this channel and, no fluff, no bs filler content only what I came here for, useful information. Subbed.
YES!!! I wanted this so badly
i saw the chocolate was a little melty idk if you already did this. But by tempering the chocolate yo make it shinier have more of a snap and make it melt in your hand less. you can temper by heating the chocolate in a double boiler and putting some on a wax paper letting the wax strip cool and see if it snaps.
Please never put anything hot onto wax paper! Best case scenario, it's cool enough that it doesn't effect the wax. Worst case, you put something just a touch too hot down and you end up with a layer of wax fused to the bottom of whatever you put on it. Just use baker's paper instead
Thanks!
Looks like a DIY version of Scho-Ka-Kola...
As someone who suffers from chronic tiredness from fibromyalgia, this looks like an amazing pick me up when I need to keep going!
I had this idea with peanuts (since they have a little more fat inside) but i have no equipment to do it, also just today i thought about using a mix of peanut butter and cocoa powder to simulate a nutella style cream or maybe a bar ( but this because in my country a nutella pot is like 20% of my payment LOL ) ..
If you want to use the ideas i would love to see if it works
i think it would just be peanut butter
@@RalseiGaming ^ as he stated in the video, most other oils aren't solid at room temperature and therefore they won't form a bar.
You guys think maybe a mix with cocoa fat to make it solid at room temperature would work ? At this point the peanuts would be there for flavor like the coffee on the video... Not a bad thing but i was trying to do a more inexpensive bar changing the cocoa fat that is super expensive around here
Damn how much do you earn / how much is a jar of Nutella?
@@__Rodrigo__ looking it up, coconut, avacado, palm, palm kernel, animal, and hydrogenated oils/butters/fats are all solid at room temperature (though structural integrity may vary, and there are probably more not listed). you could probably use one of those as a substitute for cocoa butter, probably palm oil as it's already used in various mass produced "chocolate", or a refined coconut butter if you want to be more healthy (unless you're allergic). i would also be interested in seeing a 'meat chocolate' made from animal fat, i don't think that's ever been tried before, and i kinda want to know how it would taste lol
thank you for making this.. i think it's really interesting
one of the few times youtube recommends something good :)
I'm glad to see someone has done it, I've been thinking of this possibility for a while now. It'd be cool to test if there are any other nuts or beans we could "chocolitify"
Since I cannot eat any cocoa-related components, I was always looking for some chocolate replacement but with a similar taste. Hopefully one day they create something like that :D
Carob?
I looked this up expecting no results and I was blessed with this video. I also feel that one square of that is the same as a cup of coffee.
I am glad you looked it up!
damn now i really really really want this, this sounds like it tastes absolutley amazing!
Would you recommend doing it in a blender or food processor until it forms a paste then add some whole milk and set it on the stove until all the sugar has dissolved then pouring it into the mold and placing it in the fridge?? the milk would cut down on the bitterness but it would be less concentrated.
Ahh, the oll tappa tappa, we got a man of culture here
Look up Scho-ka-kola, Basically what you made except with cola nut added for even more caffeine.
Just drop a few pieces of that into a cup of steamed milk and stir it up and you've got an unusual but pleasant start to your day. Or just eat it. That works too.
I have no idea how your channel hasnt blown up to millions of subscribers yet, but it has to soon enough because omg
*hears "ol' tappa tappa"* the cult of Chef John has arrived
Is this tempered? Or did it come out that nice on the first try? Great work!
you've opened the gateway. there's so many types of beans.
Can we substitute milk powder for the freeze-dried ilk you used? I assume we'll need a solvent for the powder, if you say yes.
I've never wanted to eat something so badly in my life.
This would be perfect for hot "chocolate". Just drop a square in frothed milk.
You've made chocolate into bars, and you've made coffee into bars. Bootleg Scho-ka-kola time?
what a good idea! great video 🍫
I can see this being added to warm milk to melt and mix with some sugar to make a good drink.
The ooooOOoooOOOoOoOold tapa tapa. Someone is a chef John connoisseur
this sounds great. would probably be insanely marketable too surprised it isn't a thing
Most likely, nobody wants to make it because some idiot somewhere would eat the whole thing and have a heart attack from the caffeine load, and the company would get sued into oblivion. Afterward, there would be laws made against products with that much caffeine.... and that's how stupid people proliferate and why the rest of us can't have nice things.
Super interesting... Have you tried mixing different nuts into the chocolate while it was wet grinding?
They should really sell that, like I would totally eat it as a caffeine snack
Not to make this a series but, Pistachio?
Edit:Pistachio is about 69% fat and liquid at room temp apparently, do you'd need a way to remove it without removing too much flavour. Unsure if the idea would actually work now
yes please do this
well the worst thing you could get is something like italian pistacchio cream, and in case someone doesnt know: italian pistacchio cream is THE shit. try it!
Chefsteps did this pretty neat
So didn’t need to temper it for a good snap, which is pretty cool. And you have energy “chocolate” but without the meth lol
How To Kill The Easter Bunny: White Chocolate w/ Death Wish Coffee.
Is that a freeze dried coffee teaser? Very excited :)
There's an old James Hoffman video out there where he uses a coffee byproduct, cascara, to make a chocolate-like substance.
3:03 Chef John approves!
This is really cool!!
Hello, just wondering. Do you think I'll get the same or similar results if I used, coffee grounds, or instant coffee and coconut oil? Love to hear from you!! By the way, I've subscribed to your channel!!
I think you would! The coconut oil might just melt a little easier
3:20 "Good question." - Nestlé
I was legit thinking about this
Could you potentially use coconut oil instead of cocoa butter?
Can you get the oil out of coffee? What if you added extra of this instead of cocoa butter?
I have question about the mill. Can I use it for grinding flour as well?
Hey, what's the wet grinder model you used for this?
this satisfied my adhd curiosity.
There's so many factors here in how oily the coffee is..what type? was it processed? Dried? Roasted? Run of the mill store bought?
This sounds incredible, how is this not something already being sold?
2 much caffeine
this reminded me of Ferrero's Pocket Coffee, a little chocolate treat with coffee on the inside.
I tried this, and found the acidic aftertaste less than pleasant. So then I tried it with 'low acid' coffee beans. Yum
Oh god this question has been on my mind since forever all my google searches have been so fruitless
This channel is criminally overlooked :(
this coffee bar, one piece of caffeine make you awake
Whoaaaa you just invented new chocolate!!!
Now I wants some, or any chocolate. It's the middle of the night and all the stores are closed.
I feel your pain. I'm munching cereal instead.
Actually it takes about 10 HOURS minimum to get the correct particle size for cacao. 30 minutes wasn't even close.
what about chocolate tempering? did you need to do that for this?
Add a few squares of it to some simmered milk and you've got fancy instant coffee.
Interesting! I want that machine!
I wanna see James Hoffman try this.
You should look into food companies to see if any are interested in producing this. This could be huge.
"omnom coffee + milk bar"
Have you ever had Kopiko candies? Is it a similar flavor the bar you made?
What would happen if you substitute coco butter with coffee oil? So instead of adding coco butter to it, you add more coffee oil, will it behave the same and produce the same result?
Didn't know coffee oil was a thing, is it solid at room temperature? I'd guess that'd be the main difference
@@AngieGandalf6 Ah, it needs to be solid at room temp huh, it's often sold as liquid in room tempt but I don't know if that's because of the manufacturing process or is that it's natural state
Woah, it solidified without tempering?
surprised this wasn't done before this, I always thought chocolate and coffee were extrmely similar as it is
It's been done before. ChefSteps has a recipe for it.
How safe is it to eat a whole bar if using decaf coffee beans?
I know a place that makes 'coffee bars' the same way and they're delicious
I remember hearing that coffee, chocolate, and cocaine come from related plants.
Soooo, cocaine bar next?
ye know thiz very nice. THough cup of coffee along side some chocolate is also fine!
right on
That sounds great, why isn't it in stores?
Kudos for using a very nice coffee, not something charred to ashes. And yes, people do occasionally die from caffeine overdose, so it's worth mentioning.
you could use it as a stir in hot chocolet :) heat up the milk and add a piece or two :)
Wouldn't it have been better to use coffee bean oil/butter for the chocolate making instead ofn the cocao butter? I know the roasted coffee beans themselves don't have much oil, but there is coffee bean oil on the market you can buy.
Funny thing is I was thinking exactly this yesterday night on why isn't there a chocolate bar made straight out of coffee.
Nice vid!
I wanna try this. It would give me a panic attack from the caffine but I wanna try it
hmm, why not grind a bunch of coffee till its super fine in water, then simmer it to get the oil out, and add the oil to a new batch of coffee beans to up the oil content and make a pure coffee, “cofelate” bar
They sell cold pressed coffee oil too...
You should send some of this to James Hoffmann! Weird coffee person solidarity.
I wonder if you could use coffee seed oil instead of cocoa butter.
It's beautiful!! 😢🙂
Looks like coffee candy of Philippines. Tasty.
You are the Angelina Jolie of making candy bars out of coffee!