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  • The British dynasty on which Game of Thrones is based is skilfully brought to life
    Following one of the most shocking periods in British history, a new historical docu-drama brings to life the dynasty that dragged Britain out of the dark ages and into the modern world. Ruling the country for over three hundred years, ruthlessly crushing all competition, The Plantagenet story is more shocking, more brutal and more astonishing than anything you’ll find in Game of Thrones.
    Presented by acclaimed historian Dan Jones, the Plantagenets combines his scintillating story-telling with drama reconstruction and brings to life a dramatic and bloody time in England’s history.
    This is history like you’ve never seen it before. Dan delivers his extraordinary take on one of the most visceral and violent chapters in British History. The series begins with Henry II, a control freak betrayed by his own wife and children after the murder of Archbishop Thomas Becket. Episode two reveals the collapse of friendship between Henry III and Simon de Montfort, spiraling into bloody civil war. Edward II’s obsession with revenge tears England apart in episode 3. Finally, episode four tells the story of the boy king tyrant, Richard II, one of the most vicious and inventive despots in history.
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    • @Airships
      @Airships 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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      @edithgreutmann1215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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      @kristabullard7206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      N0

    • @MLennholm
      @MLennholm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you using a portrait of Henry I in the thumbnail of a video about Henry III?

  • @martheresa7550
    @martheresa7550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Friendship that turned sour was quite a recurring theme for the Plantagenets.

  • @CodexArgenteus
    @CodexArgenteus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1143

    Really impressed with all the actors speaking French; especially if people who were nobility/aristocracy in those days would have actually spoken French. So many documentaries on any European topic have the actors speak English if it's an English documentary, so this is a refreshing change.

    • @jtsnowman66
      @jtsnowman66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      They sound like English speakers speaking French, which is fine, but funny

    • @jennifermoriarty2188
      @jennifermoriarty2188 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Wouldn't be modern French.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      jtsnowman66 because they are English speaking French?😂

    • @949surferdude
      @949surferdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dumb question but why did they speak French even though their are English kings?

    • @Moodster420
      @Moodster420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Well the entire family was French so you'll have that...

  • @samvogel2368
    @samvogel2368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Ironic how Simon stayed honest, fought for his oath. Even though he is killed " made example of" yet what he wanted to accomplish was accomplished by his enemies.

  • @Kovu2004
    @Kovu2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Henry II “I won’t let my sons have any power because they don’t know how to rule.”
    His sons after Henry’s death proceed to ruin England.

    • @ivanrenic4243
      @ivanrenic4243 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Father knows best I guess

    • @Avankiri
      @Avankiri ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't teach them how to rule. He clung to every scrap of power he has and refused to share it with anyone.

    • @Natasha-ew6qu
      @Natasha-ew6qu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is a good example of the TV Trope known as Properly Paranoid

    • @VOTE_REFORM_UK
      @VOTE_REFORM_UK หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well no, this is such a big oversimplification that it’s false. It’s a common myth that Richard the Lionheart “ruined” England by bankrupting it, but this is just not true. He actually was one of the few Plantagenet kings to campaign successfully against the French and defend the Angevin empire. It was John who threw that all away, and yet ironically enough, John was actually Henry II’s favorite son, though admittedly that is probably just because he was too young to judge while Henry II was alive. Henry III was at least ambitious during the first half of his reign, engaging in multiple campaigns against the French as best as he could. He didn’t succeed because by that point, the french had already become too strong. Regardless, Henry III still invested a lot into the culture of England as well as many building projects. Edward I and Edward III were pretty successful kings as well afterward.

  • @jonjameson2629
    @jonjameson2629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This is always the problem with dynasties: No matter how good of a ruler you are or how much you do, eventually someone down the line will be incredibly incompetent and ruin it all. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Henry III.

    • @ozarkhillbilly5010
      @ozarkhillbilly5010 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Henry III, 1216 but O'Biden 2021 totally incompetent.

    • @joyboy_3165
      @joyboy_3165 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well to be fair to Henry is father King John was even a bigger fck up than him.

    • @donchoq
      @donchoq ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Joe Biden of his time!😄

    • @buttercxpdraws8101
      @buttercxpdraws8101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@donchoqI don’t think you grasped what the op was saying. They are referring to dynastic rulership and how when you INHERIT your position it doesn’t necessarily mean you will be good at that role. If you referred to King Charles III your comment would make more sense because his position is inherited. ✌️💕🌻

    • @babyramses5066
      @babyramses5066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Commodus, Caligula and Nero would like to know your location

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    19:23 I really liked how the actor playing Henry III created that twitch on the left side of his mouth. Superb method of conveying rage without uttering a word or taking any other action.

  • @jackmorgan1710
    @jackmorgan1710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +275

    My reaction when I first heard this:
    Dan: He decides to do something bold, something radical, something no-one will expect. He decides...to invade Sicily.
    Me: (does a spit-take) What?! Why?! What does Sicily have to do with ANYTHING right now?!
    Seriously, that was probably the most random, unexpected thing Henry could have done, the way it was presented.

    • @marinatebbenham4011
      @marinatebbenham4011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lol yes I had exactly the same reaction XD

    • @theonlylauri
      @theonlylauri 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      When the narrator said he decided to do something radical, I thought the idiot King might try to conquer Scotland. Except no, the actual thing was surreal in addition to stupid.

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It probably seemed the same to his nobles.

    • @carbugnov1952
      @carbugnov1952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Scicily was a Norman colony. The Normans invaded SCICILY during the last half of the 11th century and expelled all the Arabs from the island. So Normandy was already ruling Scicily during Henry III. when the Normans invaded Scicily they were ruling both England and Normandy. Thus the pope at HenryIII rule saw it fit to be part of England

    • @kensebego199
      @kensebego199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr lol

  • @jerikingsbury211
    @jerikingsbury211 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I love Dan Jones. He is brilliant. His book about the Plantagenets is outstanding.

    • @venomshadowzzz2556
      @venomshadowzzz2556 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is I read the book as well fantastic book

    • @haydenmack1124
      @haydenmack1124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've read his book! It really is a brilliant piece of historical storytelling

  • @snakes3425
    @snakes3425 6 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    Simon: We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings but I don't know if we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a king
    Henry: You can't
    Simon: I can, I am
    Henry: YOU ARE TALKING TO A KING
    Simon (Smacking Henry): AND NOW I'VE STRUCK A KING!!!! DID MY HAND FALL FROM MY WRIST???

    • @theelephantqueen1782
      @theelephantqueen1782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      snakes3425 YES I LOVE THIS!

    • @chrisp4170
      @chrisp4170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      snakes3425 Of course, Henry's father John was also both vicious and an idiot, so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody. Between the two of them, they were responsible for the barons getting so fed up that they demanded both the Magna Carta and then a Parliament, over a period of about 50 years.....

    • @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance
      @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@chrisp4170 I'd say the Provisons of Oxford are more significant than the magna carta. It's funny how we completely overlook Simon Demonfort as one of the true guardians of modern liberty and the impetus for the destruction of absolute monarchy. Obviously his intent was of self interest... but Demonfort put these ideas in concrete.

    • @AbdulShakoor-br1jo
      @AbdulShakoor-br1jo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      snakes3425 Nice one.

    • @snakes3425
      @snakes3425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance
      The Provisions certainly are more significant especially when you realize Magna Carta actually failed and did very little, since both sides broke the treaty before the ink was even dry, and the Pope had it declared null and void

  • @Isildun9
    @Isildun9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    You know, it occurs to me that no English/British dynasty since the Plantagenets has ruled the country nearly as long as they did. If you count the Lancasters and Yorks, both cadet branches of the Plantagenets, they ruled England for around 330 years. The Tudors only ruled for less than 120 years, the Stuarts ruled for about 110 years, give or take, the Hanovers ruled for about 187 years, and the Saxe-Coburg & Gotha/Windsors have only been in power since the beginning of the 20th Century. Just a thought, really.

    • @hispanicyoutubeperson6100
      @hispanicyoutubeperson6100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The house of Hanover ruled from 1714 to 1901.

    • @KarenKSmith-tm2kp
      @KarenKSmith-tm2kp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@hispanicyoutubeperson6100 Right and that's 187 yrs.

    • @endajordan4406
      @endajordan4406 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The same coburg und Gotha Windsors are gone wurh the death of Elizabeth ii King Charles is a Schleswig-Holstein sondonberg glucksberg Windsor...... everything else is window dressing.....

    • @mione12gft71
      @mione12gft71 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The house of windsor is descendent from the house of hanover

    • @Isildun9
      @Isildun9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mione12gft71 Windsor is a cadet branch of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They changed the name during the First World War, due to being at war with Germany. They are descended from the Hanovers, the transition happening when Queen Victoria, the last Hanover monarch of Britain, died and was succeeded by Edward VII, who took his father's house name. Her husband was Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1081

    Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king.
    -Tywin Lannister.

    • @Devil-tm4nu
      @Devil-tm4nu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      1987MartinT Why are you using a game of thrones quote?

    • @1987MartinT
      @1987MartinT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Because of what Henry III says at 13:44-13:47.

    • @overdosisbringslife
      @overdosisbringslife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Funny thing about Tywin Lannister, is that he is heavily based on King Edward I "Longshanks".
      And Tywin's father, Tytos Lannister is based on Henry III of England. :)

    • @aaranmoonlight653
      @aaranmoonlight653 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what a coincidence

    • @markjustdiditc
      @markjustdiditc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd say Tytos is more based on Henry 6th of England aka The Mad King

  • @kyinfidelis3425
    @kyinfidelis3425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    The Plantagenets marriages would be like this:
    "Greetings, my soon to be mother in law, I'm Eleanor."
    "What a coincidence, Eleanor, I'm also Eleanor."

    • @DMFSLF
      @DMFSLF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Eleanor henry the second' wife is this ones grandmother

    • @stoneoffarel
      @stoneoffarel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Henry III's wife is also called Eleanor

    • @justinleecw
      @justinleecw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Eleanor of Aquitaine was the wife of Henry II. Eleanor of Provence was the wife of Henry III. Eleanor of Castile was the wife of Edward I.

    • @liliesaregoodfortheliver2954
      @liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And a few generations later:
      Hi, I'm Edward. This is my wife Elizabeth and my brother Richard. These are my children, Edward, Elizabeth and Richard.

  • @hamzak2181
    @hamzak2181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Man I feel bad for Henry in this one. He tried his best to be the man his grandfather was but ruling wasn't his forte. I think after his third fiasco at Poitou, he should have just abdicated.

  • @brandonneilsta.teresa3494
    @brandonneilsta.teresa3494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Edward Longshanks, Henry III's son, is a total badass. He defeated Simon de Montfort, won many times against the Scots and led the last crusade to the Holy Land.

    • @caseyh1934
      @caseyh1934 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Easily top 3 English king. (Henry II & EIII or HI) Dude is the archetype of medieval rulers

    • @aww773
      @aww773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edward the Black Prince never lived to officially take the throne. Longshanks was the grandfather of King Henry III

    • @bigfoot135
      @bigfoot135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was well known as "Hammer of the Scots" incredible History even though sad and depressing 😢 😞

    • @joyboy_3165
      @joyboy_3165 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@aww773 You're the one mistaken here Longshanks was Henry III's son, the black prince was Edward III's son who himself was Longshanks grandson.

    • @hispanicyoutubeperson6100
      @hispanicyoutubeperson6100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t brag about that to a muslim 😂

  • @matheenarif8645
    @matheenarif8645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Poor Simon de Montfort. Fought for his country, family and religion, only to be killed by his own people. But his name will be remembered. Sometimes, I wonder why we human beings are like this. Though I am Indian, I have learnt from Simons story.

  • @knight1506
    @knight1506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    to be honest, I got bored and searched bubonic plague asmr and somehow ended up binging this series, really high quality, well made and totally enticing, I have to subscribe now, god is with me

  • @RezzLeiden
    @RezzLeiden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "He decides to invade Sicily."
    ....
    WHAT?!?!

  • @kbg12ila
    @kbg12ila 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    It's interesting that this ended the way it did. Both men wanted absolute power deep down. It ended with neither of them getting it and the world being better for it.

    • @MrLeighman
      @MrLeighman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yes, but did Simone seek absolute power, I dont think so.

  • @Swolekamania
    @Swolekamania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Edward: *tricks his captors into giving him the fastest horse, proceeds to escape*
    Captors: "Well, we can't tell the truth about what happened."

  • @eillibnareik
    @eillibnareik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Its over Henry, I have the high ground!
    - Simon De Montfort

    • @shimonaspancake
      @shimonaspancake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was looking for that quote the moment the narrator said it. Not disappointed. :)

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The je... The barons are taking over!!!!

    • @Bluntz1289
      @Bluntz1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Niiiice

    • @joedickinson6566
      @joedickinson6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One year later
      Edward why do I get the feeling you’re going to be the death of me
      -Simon De Montfort
      Don’t say that Simon, I become the father of Parliament ‘I even create the model Parliament’
      -Edward 1st

  • @clarkindee
    @clarkindee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Darn those Plantagenets always win -- first Beckett and now Simon.....oh well, just have to wait until Bosworth.

  • @rogerhwerner6997
    @rogerhwerner6997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Just another story so incredible that it took Shakespeare to equal it in drama, nastiness, and blood. Very well told. I've always loved English history but this channel tells history exceptionally well.

  • @fiona1900
    @fiona1900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder, is the reason Edward was so good a warrior because he grew up watching how Simon did things? It would be ironic.

    • @Borderose
      @Borderose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah. Actually. Edward was fostered by Simon for a time and Simon supposedly remarked about how well Edward learned from him when Edward came for his neck in Evesham.
      Edward I in general was just built different. Not just Longshanks he was also known as the Leopard Prince because he was just as cunning as he was courageous.

    • @DidierDidier-kc4nm
      @DidierDidier-kc4nm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think is a bit genetic as well; because most of Plantagenet were good warriors

  • @KeikoKeepSmiling
    @KeikoKeepSmiling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    This documentary series is wonderful. Timeline always has to very best to offer. Thank you!

    • @joedickinson6566
      @joedickinson6566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only thing that would have made it better is how they kept skipping Kings
      ‘Edward 1and 3, Richard 1 John, Henry 4 and 5 were technically Plantagents and that would have been the perfect way to move into the Wars of the Roses

    • @stephensedlon8414
      @stephensedlon8414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joedickinson6566 Yes, I would have liked to see it for every king too.
      However the host stops counting "plantegent kings" after Richard II since he was overthrown. I don't necessarily agree with that, and always count Henry Tudors ascent as the final end of the dynasty.

    • @kirkc4696
      @kirkc4696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joedickinson6566 Yes, I agree that it would be better with all the kings included. I was a bit confused by their absence at times.

  • @bursnatch8617
    @bursnatch8617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I was also in grudge with my bestfriend sometime but we dont have any kingdom so we just smacked each others faces and became bestfriends again the next day.

  • @ErikS-
    @ErikS- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Amazing quality this documentary!
    Costumes, sceneries, ... the action!
    Wished we had this when I was in highschool! Better than the history teacher.

    • @aztekempire
      @aztekempire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're using footage from another series

  • @thehighscry8409
    @thehighscry8409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Is this where the game "Simon says" comes from?

    • @DMFSLF
      @DMFSLF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Makes sense

    • @darrylstein187
      @darrylstein187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Things that make you go "hmmm".
      probably is.

    • @Reathety
      @Reathety 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      kool1017.com/simon-who-the-story-behind-a-playground-favorite-simon-says/
      @ The High Scry: Great comment it made me look this up. Looks like the game originated as far back as Cicero in ancient Rome but the named "Simon" did indeed come from the man himself Simon De Montfort.

    • @zolotayazima8351
      @zolotayazima8351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They say so, that Simon said as much

    • @keiththorpe9571
      @keiththorpe9571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      "Simon Says pat you head."
      "Simon Says touch your nose"
      "Simon Says grant me the earldom of Leicester"
      "Raise taxes..."
      "Ahhh, I didn't say 'Simon Says'..."

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I am really loving this four-part series! As a student of History I briefly but not deeply studied the plantagenet and I am grateful to be learning more of the history. :-)

  • @jenniferh.k.7123
    @jenniferh.k.7123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    „The King dressed as one of Simons men on the battlefield almost got killed by his own men...“ Well Well Simon was a smart one ☝🏻

  • @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance
    @ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love how this documentary makes the point that the Provisons of Oxford was more radical than Magna Carta. I have always believed it was far more important.

  • @dflatt1783
    @dflatt1783 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Lesson to Simon: Hire smarter guards.

  • @jimr9499
    @jimr9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lmao!! 😂 I love how Henry and his babysitters/captor guard guys are "playing a game" of finding which horse is fastest. At 38:15, Henry indeed finds the fastest horse and takes off. But the guards don't even make a move...they just sit on their horses dumbstruck. Why don't they even make an attempt at chasing/recapturing him? They sit there frozen. It just looks so funny, and I can't help when I see things like that, imagining what's going through their minds or what they're saying to one another...lol.

    • @kurtskaaning5426
      @kurtskaaning5426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are saying - because he rode
      away fast and got away - we get back we going to loose our heads.

    • @DeeHach-lt5nc
      @DeeHach-lt5nc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's the classic tale of "clerks"....the one knight just yells out "I wasn't even supposed to be here today! " 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @pinkcrazygirl
    @pinkcrazygirl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love the whole documentary, each and every part of this. British history is very interesting yet so brutal.

  • @craigbenz4835
    @craigbenz4835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    The incongruous part to me is that Henry III ruled for 56 years. How does one supposedly so incompetent do this?

    • @GiantParfait
      @GiantParfait 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Like it was mentioned, he was 'God's anointed King' the church back then was SO HUGE that this is one of the examples.
      Also, much of his reign was limited and I suppose the barons and stuff were okay with that?
      Edit: also, many believe it's better to take the evil you know than let an unknown come into play. Simon was a zealot.

    • @awepossum1059
      @awepossum1059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And then you have these regular kings that rule for 5 months and end up murdered.

    • @GREAT-INDIAN-TRAVELLER
      @GREAT-INDIAN-TRAVELLER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@awepossum1059 he was incompetent,that why he ruled for 56years ,he was no danger to anybody .King with no authority cannot be a threat as said he can talk the talk but not walk the walk

    • @carmenlottner297
      @carmenlottner297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awepossum1059 Which kings would they be,then?

    • @k.stacey7389
      @k.stacey7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well he became king at 9, so he would have been “king” without control for about the first decade anyway.

  • @T0mat0S0up
    @T0mat0S0up 6 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    Hang on, we just skipped past Richard the Lionheart and Robin Hood's generation.

    • @kendonovan6312
      @kendonovan6312 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I noted the same ? I believe they also had a part play in Plantagenet history.

    • @dobermangirl6549
      @dobermangirl6549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      T0mat0s0up There are only 4 chapters. They couldn't squeeze them all in.

    • @masteroogway3816
      @masteroogway3816 6 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Ken Donovan Richard spent all his time crusading in the holy land and did nothing in england

    • @anthonycunningham8116
      @anthonycunningham8116 6 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      T0mat0S0up Richard I was a relatively unimportant king despite the propoganda, and Robin Hood probably didn't even exist

    • @joesteers9251
      @joesteers9251 6 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      Richard didn't even spend a year in England out of an entire decade. He is perhaps the most unimportant and inconsequential of all the Plantagenet kings. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. Had he directed some of his undoubted energy towards governing the country then things may have been different. A Frenchman who used Englishmen to carry out campaigns that yielded next to nothing. Richard Ist.

  • @elodie95
    @elodie95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Edward escaping : BYE LOOSERS !!
    Guards : ...We're gonna be soooo fired.

  • @overdosisbringslife
    @overdosisbringslife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    I really like the choice of actors in this documentary.
    In the last episode, the actor of Henry II had a very charismatic and strong appearance, just like Henry II.
    And in this episode, the actor who plays Henry III, really looks like an incompetent idiot.

    • @calilovett2063
      @calilovett2063 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      overdosisbringslife I wonder if the actor would find this a compliment or not! Heheheh

    • @hayaglamazonluxe
      @hayaglamazonluxe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The actor playing Henri II was wonderful!! I wonder who he was.

    • @theprovincial
      @theprovincial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@hayaglamazonluxe At 20:15 I think that's the same actor playing the Archbishop of Canterbury

    • @hayaglamazonluxe
      @hayaglamazonluxe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theprovincial Oh okay thanks!

    • @5H4K490
      @5H4K490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      ​@@calilovett2063 That should be taken as a complement, he was trying to portray a incompetent king and pulled it off.

  • @6offdutyninjasN1
    @6offdutyninjasN1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    3 failed attacks on the French, you lost Simon your best mate and your going to take Sicily? I think the Pope knew he would fail. Everyone seems to know what's really happening accept Henry III.

  • @pedroalitovar6624
    @pedroalitovar6624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    32:34 Simon: "It's over, Henry, I have the highground!"
    Henry III: "You underestimate my power"

    • @vinnydaq13
      @vinnydaq13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pedroalí Tovar So.....Henry III = Darth Vader?

  • @GPBA89
    @GPBA89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    42:37
    And now the rains weep o'er his halls with no one left to hear.

  • @thisfacebelievesyou8862
    @thisfacebelievesyou8862 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the moment Edward’s guards realized they’d been duped lol.

  • @litogor
    @litogor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Plantagênet is a French family and almost all the monuments of England are built in sacred stones of caen (France): Tower of London, Tower Bridge of London, Abbey of Westminster, Cathedral of Canterbury, Palace of Buckingham and many others .. ... there is a secret reason for that ...
    If a French king of England had managed to take the kingdom of France, England would have been annexed and would have disappeared because the real stakes were the motherland of France between people of the same family. Several centuries of wars for this family war and millions of deaths ....

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo6793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too nice video...showing how two ambitious persons struggles crushed skull of peoples on their struggle stages before one of them defeated other competitive power

  • @BA-gn3qb
    @BA-gn3qb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Was that how "Simon Says" got started?

  • @cammedred8624
    @cammedred8624 7 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I really like this narrator, and the one who did the Stalin doc

    • @nosubscribe6233
      @nosubscribe6233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Endslaer135 he has a very good voice very clear but not boring

    • @Abrey012
      @Abrey012 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dan Jones, written some very good books too.

    • @sentinel1ify
      @sentinel1ify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the presenter for the man of Stalin: Man of Steel is Prof. David Reynolds he has some very good documentaries on world war 1 and world war 2

    • @dristyra
      @dristyra 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amd Master Race p

  • @oddwirdz
    @oddwirdz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    why is there a dude with a cap on around 12:58 in the lower left side of the screen lol

    • @09oogle
      @09oogle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Korosu Yourself omg haha! I had to pause it and show my uncle, that's too funny!

    • @shishi6799
      @shishi6799 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmao. The slo-mo made it worse. 😂

    • @hayleyquinn1
      @hayleyquinn1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Pmsl those pesky time travellers again!!

    • @ileana5299
      @ileana5299 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Korosu Yourself hahahaha

    • @guardian08527
      @guardian08527 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Looks like Tiger Woods was looking for a lost ball and wandered into the Battle Of Taillebourg

  • @Luna.3.3.3
    @Luna.3.3.3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think I've watched this series 5-6 times - twice during lock down. 🌟Excellent documentary.
    ~Fabulous presenter 😉

  • @selenadansfield1305
    @selenadansfield1305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm finding by watching the different documentaries on the War of the Roses, you get some info that wasn't in other documentaries. Facinating!

  • @kimberlypatton205
    @kimberlypatton205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these docs so much ! But I love the comment section just as much! It is great to see so many hostory lovers with asuch passion for the past that I have!!

  • @glorialange6446
    @glorialange6446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great Plantagenet documentary with impressive videography.

  • @patrickgilligan7176
    @patrickgilligan7176 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    thanks for the great quality videos its much appreciated

    • @MrDavidRosca
      @MrDavidRosca 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrick Gilligan pe k floyd

  • @paulyhoffmann
    @paulyhoffmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shee-ute, it's an expensive tradeoff to be close to the king. First Bennett, and then Simon.

  • @PlantagenetRose
    @PlantagenetRose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    “His oldest son, Edward”
    Me: FRICK YEAHHHHHH

  • @jamesmoylan2861
    @jamesmoylan2861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Henry was born 1207 and was crowned hastily at Gloucester cathedral in 1216,using the golden circlet of his mother,Queen Isabella of England,widow of King John,1199-1216,the golden circlet was her Comtesse d Angouleme,circlet,that denoted her status as semi autonomous ruler of that region of SW France,Comtesse,Countess,,and the title runs back to the 800 AD era,when a Taillefer,tallifer,etc killed a Viking invader by cutting through his iron ,fer,taille,cut,in French.for this the Taillefer was rewarded with title and the right to create Viscomte,by the king of France.
    Her second marriage,produced 9 children, the lusignans or Comte de la Marche,the House of Taillefer,was also descended to another king of France as I believe her mother was a granddaughter of a French king.,ta.?

  • @Jackaljkljkl
    @Jackaljkljkl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:30 - "Hey you. You can play the Lusignan a-hole"
    "But I just played John in the previous episode. I'm even still wearing the same hat"
    "Doesn't matter. Just stand there, and look really shifty..."

  • @kirillvladimirovitch534
    @kirillvladimirovitch534 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The video is very informative, interesting and incisively valuable in terms of knowledge about the history of England. As the one who studies the language and culture I have found this video very helpful and the whole series as well. Thank you!

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Simon de Montfort: It's over Henry! I have the high ground!
    Henry: You underestimate my power!

  • @livingtonu
    @livingtonu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We skipped over William Marshal's story. Which tells alot of this story in intresting way.

  • @micfail2
    @micfail2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for posting, these documentaries are great

  • @lesliepfeifer8518
    @lesliepfeifer8518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Arguh!!! Love British history!!!!

  • @redforest9269
    @redforest9269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    16:04
    "William de Valence, the king's half-brother, leader of a French family called the Listengers."
    That's odd, in part 1 he was Prince John.

  • @writingismymagic3565
    @writingismymagic3565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They think it’s all great fun … until he finds the fastest horse 😂😂😂
    Best line

  • @kato3483
    @kato3483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent documentary - love the presentation and the tongue in cheek commentary. Also the visits to the actual locations.

  • @rexrowan6411
    @rexrowan6411 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really good. Great for passing the time.

  • @Jackie-rc6cj
    @Jackie-rc6cj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That Simon is a bit of alright. Do not upset Simon. I had no idea of this history until now. Wonderful documentary and research. Thankyou !!

  • @jas8064
    @jas8064 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    I love this series... but am I the only one who cringes when he touches 800 year old documents with his bare hands?

    • @Leechtime
      @Leechtime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I literally recoiled the first time I saw him do it.

    • @paulyhoffmann
      @paulyhoffmann 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would love to touch 'em too - thru the plastic, of course.

    • @blueberry7899
      @blueberry7899 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think they would be covered with plastic

    • @BA-gn3qb
      @BA-gn3qb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just hoped he washed his hands after going to the loo.

    • @janbadinski7126
      @janbadinski7126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Vexarax Hand oils aren't the problem. It's the slightly acidic from the sweat on your hands. I agree, they should be wearing gloves when they look through the records.

  • @ftffighter
    @ftffighter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING doc! THANK YOU!!

  • @jammehrmann1871
    @jammehrmann1871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Medieval Logic at 42:44: Angel-like church singing in the background, while Simon is being chopped into bits

  • @Pfisiar22
    @Pfisiar22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Henry III was going to be a great Plantagenet King" Spoiler: no

  • @manuelkong10
    @manuelkong10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think it's fair to say these two guys were Never "best friends"

  • @nomagea2684
    @nomagea2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well summarized documentary. The presentation is so captivating and engrossing. U keep switching empathy from Simon to Henry. Well done presenter for, making history lesson sooooo interesting

  • @LeesTexan
    @LeesTexan ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely an OUTSTANDING documentary!!

  • @kuko331
    @kuko331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting choosing of characters, hehe disaster after disaster, it's a miracle that Edward I,Edward III or Henry V came out of this mess.

  • @Munthasir123
    @Munthasir123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Excellent documentary as always. Can't wait for the other two part!

  • @TheWinterySummer
    @TheWinterySummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Timeline - World History Documentry You are doing good work, because of you i have learned a lot about the history of my pwn country, thank you.

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @williamchamberlain2263
    @williamchamberlain2263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    10:50 is a mistake that shows one of Henry's problems; that should have been considered and resolved quietly, not with a public split.

  • @olewetdog6254
    @olewetdog6254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's interesting to note that these supposedly "great" documents such as the magna carta are really about protecting the wealth of a bunch of people who are wealthy already, barons and other nobles. There's little to nothing at all about the peasants and ordinary people. Not that I have any sympathy for the kings in these situations either, they're horrible too.

  • @kientekarladambo1877
    @kientekarladambo1877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very detailed. Loved it

  • @christopherwinstanley1348
    @christopherwinstanley1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoying these documentaries. Very interesting and intense throughout.

  • @strangepaul8552
    @strangepaul8552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really intriguing documentary to me .. I love about the story of Platagenets.

  • @2serveand2protect
    @2serveand2protect 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Invading Sicily? He might 've aswell planned to invade the freakin' MOON! :D

  • @infledermaus
    @infledermaus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine being Henry as a 9 year old king. His nanny goes up on the parapets and yells:
    "henREEEEE! HENNNNreeee! Oh, HENNNNree! HENRY! Where hast thou been! Damn it, boy! How many times must I tell thee not to be late for supper! King of England or not, thy youthful bottom can still be made red with strikes from a cane! Get in this castle right now and wash up! Dinner is ready!"
    "Oh, Grünhilde! I was slaying dragons in the forest!"
    "Oh, don't 'oh Grünhilde' me! I'll turn thee over to the duke's Dungeon Master, cousin Günther der Schlimme (Gunther the Bad for you non-German speakers), for a spanking thou shalt not soon forget! Ah, speaking of the Dungeons, if thou eatest all thy victles especially the greens, I shall allow thee to descend into to the Dungeons later to help cousin Günther torture some prisoners before bed. Now off with thee!"
    "Gosh, I thank thee, Nanny Grünhilde! Thou art so kind! I promise thee I am shall eat allllll my victels and the icky greens for a trip to the Dungeons! I adore torturing people and playing with all of cousin Günther's implements to see which ones causeth the greatest pain! This will be useful when I have grown up into a man!"

  • @stratowhore9051
    @stratowhore9051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superbly done episode, as was part 1. The British Library docs are especially interesting, as are the historical sites.

  • @carbugnov1952
    @carbugnov1952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Famous battles during the Plantagenet 300 years rule. 1.civil war between Matilda (mother of Henry II) and her cousin Stephen of Blois ;
    2. conflicts between Henry II and his sons, Richard the Lionheart and John;
    3. King John loses most of the French territories;
    4. civil war between Henry III(son of King John) and Simon de Montfort ended by the latter's defeat and death at Evesham ;
    5.Invasion of Wales by Edward I followed by battles of Stirling bridge and Falkirk in Scotland.
    6.defeat of Edward II at Bannockburns in Scotland;
    7.the hundred years war between England and France started during the reign of Edward iii and ended at the start of Henry VI's reign in the early 15th Century.
    8. War of the Roses in England during the reigns of Henry VI and Edward IV;
    9.final battle fought in Leicester which ended with the end of the last Plantagenet king Richard III who was defeated by Henry Tudor who consequently was crowned as King Henry VII (father of Henry VIII)

  • @SoSoMikaela
    @SoSoMikaela 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    9:00 I heard that as "he's inside her at court." LOL

    • @tc7782
      @tc7782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup

    • @morgenoghmanann8746
      @morgenoghmanann8746 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wyatt Derp ~ He was referring to Simon DeMonfort "as an insider at court".

  • @ManachanJapan
    @ManachanJapan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Simon died, but his 'dream' lives on

    • @Bix12
      @Bix12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Saying that de Montfort "died" seems a rather benign description...a tad sugar-coated. Actually, he was brutally hacked to pieces...for starters.

    • @dobermangirl6549
      @dobermangirl6549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      William L. Obviously he wasn't a commoner. He should have been beheaded. If commoners committed treason, they got this gruesome death sentence -- hung, drawn and quartered. I've looked it up. The prisoner is taken to the place of execution on a rail, hung until nearly dead, cut down, the manly bits cut off and burned, then intestines dragged out and then finally quartered where you're cut into four sections and taken to the four corners of the city. A beheading with an axe would be better. Even better and receive for royalty was a French swordsman, expert on the sword which was much cleaner than an axeman which could be pretty messy if he was nervous.

    • @Bix12
      @Bix12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It was a gruesome fate, to be sure. Back then, treason was considered the same crime as an attack on the King's person, by far the most serious crime one could commit. In punishing treason, an attack on the King, or even a planned attack on the King, the sentence was meted out in the most horrifically explicit way imaginable deliberately. The King wanted to send a message, and executions of the type you described ensured the King's message was clearly understood - "This is what happens to anyone dumb enough to attack the King and/or Kingdom". It worked very well.
      If de Montfort had been taken alive, as he should have been, and as the rules concerning royalty dictated, he probably would have lost his head under a French blade. There's also the slim chance he would have died in captivity of natural causes...a very slim chance. Instead Edward, rather than taking Simon prisoner at Evesham that day, took it upon himself to murder Simon in such a brutally savage way, it sent shockwaves throughout the Realm, as well as on the Continent.

    • @dobermangirl6549
      @dobermangirl6549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      William L. Yeah, bad. It goes further than that. Edward IV's brother, George, Duke of Clarence (not the sharpest tool in the shed) was very angry with his brother and did various stupid acts ending in his execution by being famously drowned in a barrel of malmsey wine. It took a while for Edward to get angry enough to execute him.
      Earlier than that, he hired an astronomer who reportedly "imagined an compassed" the king's death, which was treasonous. The astronomer and a couple of his buddies were arrest and tried. One of them was released but the rest of them were hanged. Which was better than the other style of execution but not much. Hanging could take up to an HOUR unless someone hauled on his legs to break his neck. They did hang high enough to break the neck. Lovely, huh?

    • @Bix12
      @Bix12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Louise - Really?! I'd never heard that before....that's crazy! His astronomer doesn't sound like a very bright fellow, either. One would think he would've known better than to tell the King he's envisioned his demise.
      Now, to be clear, this is Edward IV, of the House of York, you're talking about? He ruled about 140 years+/- after the reign of "Longshanks", i.e, Edward I, of the House of Plantagenet.

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with Dan Jones on this: Henry III ‘s Westminster Abbey is extraordinary.

  • @sjr7822
    @sjr7822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Dan Jones is fantastic! I was rooting for
    Simon de Montfort. Humans are vicious seems that's the way we are programed

    • @LadyCoyKoi
      @LadyCoyKoi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Humans aren't born/programmed to be vicious, we are raised or taught to be vicious.

    • @tntsummers926
      @tntsummers926 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Juci Shockwave unless you're a psychopath, because at birth the part of the brain were there's empathy, is replaced by logic and reason.

    • @chrisp4170
      @chrisp4170 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just noticed?

    • @mikemurphy5898
      @mikemurphy5898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idk I think we're born that way. We didnt claw our way to the top of the food chain over a billion years of evolution by being pushovers. Humans are capable of both savagery and incredible compassion. It's kind of amazing actually.

  • @Flypidge
    @Flypidge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live 5 minutes from Lewes, amazing learning history I never knew about! 😀

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im always impressed in the Stone work and building of Castles , Abbeys and Cathedrals . I need to go on a another holiday to see more of it

  • @svetlanaz7872
    @svetlanaz7872 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    the actor who played grown up john, the king's favorite son, in the previous episode is now william de valence in this episode?

    • @redforest9269
      @redforest9269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was wondering if anyone else noticed.
      I'm thinking they recorded William first and then went, "Uhh, use this closeup of the guy next to the throne. It's not like they can tell it's not Henry II."

    • @winterdreams1066
      @winterdreams1066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who cares?

    • @redforest9269
      @redforest9269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@winterdreams1066 People with eyes and those without amnesia.

    • @coreybridges657
      @coreybridges657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Svetlana Z it’s call limited budget

  • @melissasanfilippo2549
    @melissasanfilippo2549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a good documentary...plus Dan Jones is so freaking cute

  • @marisapanzarin2910
    @marisapanzarin2910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He decides to do something brave bold. He decides to invade sicily LMAO. That was so funny the way he said that

  • @thomascunningham5483
    @thomascunningham5483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnificent video!

  • @debbscustomengravings5226
    @debbscustomengravings5226 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great programme. Even better when I live so close to the important places.

  • @milan190291
    @milan190291 7 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Dont we miss the part about Richard Lionheart and Jon?

    • @observationsfromthebunker9639
      @observationsfromthebunker9639 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Richard & John have already had enough time. SImon de Montfort has fallen off the historical radar, and he deserves consideration. Sharon Kay Penman and Sir WInston Churchill had a lot of things to say about him.

    • @jabom99
      @jabom99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Richard the Lionheart was a Frenchman who disliked England and spent almost no time there.

    • @jnes624
      @jnes624 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      norman not really just french, had a blood relative to alfred the great aswell, its all a mess and aquitaine wasnt france either at the time

    • @Gabryal77
      @Gabryal77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The covered part of them in the last one, they were both sons of Henry II, along with Henry the Younger, and Geoffrey ( who wasn't mentioned hardly at all in the last one, but rebelled with his older brothers ). Jon was the only one who didn't rebel. Puts a different spin on Richard than we're used to so I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know they were talking about the same man

    • @dobermangirl6549
      @dobermangirl6549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ferzy09 Henry IV was the first English king to speak English as his first language. Henry V encourage the use of English at court and used English in official documents and letters. Richard II was the last English king to speak French as his first language.

  • @natashanarushev3450
    @natashanarushev3450 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You see, just when you think you have everything and could relax, another entity will try to take it away.

  • @ahmedalkout5401
    @ahmedalkout5401 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good , elegant and lively documentary by a fantastic historian .. one critic thou, the most famous of them all , the one that has all the qualities of the Plantagenets : handsome , charismatic, brave like a lion , and has all the evil side of the family: ruthless, calculating , traitor .. I mean of course Richard the Lionheart , where is he ? The guy fought from England to France to Italy to the Middle East , this all not enough?