19:23 I really liked how the actor playing Henry III created that twitch on the left side of his mouth. Superb method of conveying rage without uttering a word or taking any other action.
Really impressed with all the actors speaking French; especially if people who were nobility/aristocracy in those days would have actually spoken French. So many documentaries on any European topic have the actors speak English if it's an English documentary, so this is a refreshing change.
Ironic how Simon stayed honest, fought for his oath. Even though he is killed " made example of" yet what he wanted to accomplish was accomplished by his enemies.
My reaction when I first heard this: Dan: He decides to do something bold, something radical, something no-one will expect. He decides...to invade Sicily. Me: (does a spit-take) What?! Why?! What does Sicily have to do with ANYTHING right now?! Seriously, that was probably the most random, unexpected thing Henry could have done, the way it was presented.
When the narrator said he decided to do something radical, I thought the idiot King might try to conquer Scotland. Except no, the actual thing was surreal in addition to stupid.
Scicily was a Norman colony. The Normans invaded SCICILY during the last half of the 11th century and expelled all the Arabs from the island. So Normandy was already ruling Scicily during Henry III. when the Normans invaded Scicily they were ruling both England and Normandy. Thus the pope at HenryIII rule saw it fit to be part of England
The only thing that would have made it better is how they kept skipping Kings ‘Edward 1and 3, Richard 1 John, Henry 4 and 5 were technically Plantagents and that would have been the perfect way to move into the Wars of the Roses
@@joedickinson6566 Yes, I would have liked to see it for every king too. However the host stops counting "plantegent kings" after Richard II since he was overthrown. I don't necessarily agree with that, and always count Henry Tudors ascent as the final end of the dynasty.
Man I feel bad for Henry in this one. He tried his best to be the man his grandfather was but ruling wasn't his forte. I think after his third fiasco at Poitou, he should have just abdicated.
This is always the problem with dynasties: No matter how good of a ruler you are or how much you do, eventually someone down the line will be incredibly incompetent and ruin it all. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Henry III.
@@donchoqI don’t think you grasped what the op was saying. They are referring to dynastic rulership and how when you INHERIT your position it doesn’t necessarily mean you will be good at that role. If you referred to King Charles III your comment would make more sense because his position is inherited. ✌️💕🌻
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Just another story so incredible that it took Shakespeare to equal it in drama, nastiness, and blood. Very well told. I've always loved English history but this channel tells history exceptionally well.
Well no, this is such a big oversimplification that it’s false. It’s a common myth that Richard the Lionheart “ruined” England by bankrupting it, but this is just not true. He actually was one of the few Plantagenet kings to campaign successfully against the French and defend the Angevin empire. It was John who threw that all away, and yet ironically enough, John was actually Henry II’s favorite son, though admittedly that is probably just because he was too young to judge while Henry II was alive. Henry III was at least ambitious during the first half of his reign, engaging in multiple campaigns against the French as best as he could. He didn’t succeed because by that point, the french had already become too strong. Regardless, Henry III still invested a lot into the culture of England as well as many building projects. Edward I and Edward III were pretty successful kings as well afterward.
It could be argued that keeping power from then prevented them from effectively learning HOW to rule. That was the basic objective of giving sons chunks of land to run and draw earnings from.... you want money, you gotta make your land produce. If they never had the chance to learn it, stands to reason they'd suck at it
You know, it occurs to me that no English/British dynasty since the Plantagenets has ruled the country nearly as long as they did. If you count the Lancasters and Yorks, both cadet branches of the Plantagenets, they ruled England for around 330 years. The Tudors only ruled for less than 120 years, the Stuarts ruled for about 110 years, give or take, the Hanovers ruled for about 187 years, and the Saxe-Coburg & Gotha/Windsors have only been in power since the beginning of the 20th Century. Just a thought, really.
The same coburg und Gotha Windsors are gone wurh the death of Elizabeth ii King Charles is a Schleswig-Holstein sondonberg glucksberg Windsor...... everything else is window dressing.....
@@mione12gft71 Windsor is a cadet branch of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They changed the name during the First World War, due to being at war with Germany. They are descended from the Hanovers, the transition happening when Queen Victoria, the last Hanover monarch of Britain, died and was succeeded by Edward VII, who took his father's house name. Her husband was Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
Funny thing about Tywin Lannister, is that he is heavily based on King Edward I "Longshanks". And Tywin's father, Tytos Lannister is based on Henry III of England. :)
I am really loving this four-part series! As a student of History I briefly but not deeply studied the plantagenet and I am grateful to be learning more of the history. :-)
Simon: We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings but I don't know if we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a king Henry: You can't Simon: I can, I am Henry: YOU ARE TALKING TO A KING Simon (Smacking Henry): AND NOW I'VE STRUCK A KING!!!! DID MY HAND FALL FROM MY WRIST???
snakes3425 Of course, Henry's father John was also both vicious and an idiot, so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody. Between the two of them, they were responsible for the barons getting so fed up that they demanded both the Magna Carta and then a Parliament, over a period of about 50 years.....
@@chrisp4170 I'd say the Provisons of Oxford are more significant than the magna carta. It's funny how we completely overlook Simon Demonfort as one of the true guardians of modern liberty and the impetus for the destruction of absolute monarchy. Obviously his intent was of self interest... but Demonfort put these ideas in concrete.
@@Baseballnfj The Provisions certainly are more significant especially when you realize Magna Carta actually failed and did very little, since both sides broke the treaty before the ink was even dry, and the Pope had it declared null and void
It's interesting that this ended the way it did. Both men wanted absolute power deep down. It ended with neither of them getting it and the world being better for it.
Edward Longshanks, Henry III's son, is a total badass. He defeated Simon de Montfort, won many times against the Scots and led the last crusade to the Holy Land.
I love these docs so much ! But I love the comment section just as much! It is great to see so many hostory lovers with asuch passion for the past that I have!!
I love how this documentary makes the point that the Provisons of Oxford was more radical than Magna Carta. I have always believed it was far more important.
Poor Simon de Montfort. Fought for his country, family and religion, only to be killed by his own people. But his name will be remembered. Sometimes, I wonder why we human beings are like this. Though I am Indian, I have learnt from Simons story.
The video is very informative, interesting and incisively valuable in terms of knowledge about the history of England. As the one who studies the language and culture I have found this video very helpful and the whole series as well. Thank you!
16:30 - "Hey you. You can play the Lusignan a-hole" "But I just played John in the previous episode. I'm even still wearing the same hat" "Doesn't matter. Just stand there, and look really shifty..."
One year later Edward why do I get the feeling you’re going to be the death of me -Simon De Montfort Don’t say that Simon, I become the father of Parliament ‘I even create the model Parliament’ -Edward 1st
kool1017.com/simon-who-the-story-behind-a-playground-favorite-simon-says/ @ The High Scry: Great comment it made me look this up. Looks like the game originated as far back as Cicero in ancient Rome but the named "Simon" did indeed come from the man himself Simon De Montfort.
"Simon Says pat you head." "Simon Says touch your nose" "Simon Says grant me the earldom of Leicester" "Raise taxes..." "Ahhh, I didn't say 'Simon Says'..."
Richard didn't even spend a year in England out of an entire decade. He is perhaps the most unimportant and inconsequential of all the Plantagenet kings. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. Had he directed some of his undoubted energy towards governing the country then things may have been different. A Frenchman who used Englishmen to carry out campaigns that yielded next to nothing. Richard Ist.
Too nice video...showing how two ambitious persons struggles crushed skull of peoples on their struggle stages before one of them defeated other competitive power
I was also in grudge with my bestfriend sometime but we dont have any kingdom so we just smacked each others faces and became bestfriends again the next day.
Lmao!! 😂 I love how Henry and his babysitters/captor guard guys are "playing a game" of finding which horse is fastest. At 38:15, Henry indeed finds the fastest horse and takes off. But the guards don't even make a move...they just sit on their horses dumbstruck. Why don't they even make an attempt at chasing/recapturing him? They sit there frozen. It just looks so funny, and I can't help when I see things like that, imagining what's going through their minds or what they're saying to one another...lol.
Like it was mentioned, he was 'God's anointed King' the church back then was SO HUGE that this is one of the examples. Also, much of his reign was limited and I suppose the barons and stuff were okay with that? Edit: also, many believe it's better to take the evil you know than let an unknown come into play. Simon was a zealot.
@@awepossum1059 he was incompetent,that why he ruled for 56years ,he was no danger to anybody .King with no authority cannot be a threat as said he can talk the talk but not walk the walk
I really like the choice of actors in this documentary. In the last episode, the actor of Henry II had a very charismatic and strong appearance, just like Henry II. And in this episode, the actor who plays Henry III, really looks like an incompetent idiot.
Very well summarized documentary. The presentation is so captivating and engrossing. U keep switching empathy from Simon to Henry. Well done presenter for, making history lesson sooooo interesting
Yeah. Actually. Edward was fostered by Simon for a time and Simon supposedly remarked about how well Edward learned from him when Edward came for his neck in Evesham. Edward I in general was just built different. Not just Longshanks he was also known as the Leopard Prince because he was just as cunning as he was courageous.
3 failed attacks on the French, you lost Simon your best mate and your going to take Sicily? I think the Pope knew he would fail. Everyone seems to know what's really happening accept Henry III.
Plantagênet is a French family and almost all the monuments of England are built in sacred stones of caen (France): Tower of London, Tower Bridge of London, Abbey of Westminster, Cathedral of Canterbury, Palace of Buckingham and many others .. ... there is a secret reason for that ... If a French king of England had managed to take the kingdom of France, England would have been annexed and would have disappeared because the real stakes were the motherland of France between people of the same family. Several centuries of wars for this family war and millions of deaths ....
Fantastic! I am becoming obsessed. But, how can you say that Simon committed an unforgivable betrayal of friendship? I was routing for Simon all along! Ha! Thanks so very much, Dan!
I love the old medieval music of the church in the background, it's hauntingly beautiful. Makes you remember how much influence religion had in England and elsewhere during this family's reign. My favorite part of this episode is Prince Edward's escape from house arrest. He's obviously more clever than his father and when he reigns, he proves it and doesn't even have a mistress, completely devoted to his wife Eleanor. Despite the fact that Edward would hammer the Welsh into submission and go after the Scots, he's a king to respect in everything else when compared to his father and then his son.
Simon dies and reincarnated as Lord Hastings, who was then betrayed by Richard the Third and got executed again. Lol, love these actors get different roles in different episodes, but played so well into their characters.
Henry was born 1207 and was crowned hastily at Gloucester cathedral in 1216,using the golden circlet of his mother,Queen Isabella of England,widow of King John,1199-1216,the golden circlet was her Comtesse d Angouleme,circlet,that denoted her status as semi autonomous ruler of that region of SW France,Comtesse,Countess,,and the title runs back to the 800 AD era,when a Taillefer,tallifer,etc killed a Viking invader by cutting through his iron ,fer,taille,cut,in French.for this the Taillefer was rewarded with title and the right to create Viscomte,by the king of France. Her second marriage,produced 9 children, the lusignans or Comte de la Marche,the House of Taillefer,was also descended to another king of France as I believe her mother was a granddaughter of a French king.,ta.?
Very good , elegant and lively documentary by a fantastic historian .. one critic thou, the most famous of them all , the one that has all the qualities of the Plantagenets : handsome , charismatic, brave like a lion , and has all the evil side of the family: ruthless, calculating , traitor .. I mean of course Richard the Lionheart , where is he ? The guy fought from England to France to Italy to the Middle East , this all not enough?
@@Vexarax Hand oils aren't the problem. It's the slightly acidic from the sweat on your hands. I agree, they should be wearing gloves when they look through the records.
Famous battles during the Plantagenet 300 years rule. 1.civil war between Matilda (mother of Henry II) and her cousin Stephen of Blois ; 2. conflicts between Henry II and his sons, Richard the Lionheart and John; 3. King John loses most of the French territories; 4. civil war between Henry III(son of King John) and Simon de Montfort ended by the latter's defeat and death at Evesham ; 5.Invasion of Wales by Edward I followed by battles of Stirling bridge and Falkirk in Scotland. 6.defeat of Edward II at Bannockburns in Scotland; 7.the hundred years war between England and France started during the reign of Edward iii and ended at the start of Henry VI's reign in the early 15th Century. 8. War of the Roses in England during the reigns of Henry VI and Edward IV; 9.final battle fought in Leicester which ended with the end of the last Plantagenet king Richard III who was defeated by Henry Tudor who consequently was crowned as King Henry VII (father of Henry VIII)
The illustrated scenes are really good. They complement the narrator well. Are they from a series, and where can I watch it? A TV series on the Plantagenet dynasty would be good.
William L. Obviously he wasn't a commoner. He should have been beheaded. If commoners committed treason, they got this gruesome death sentence -- hung, drawn and quartered. I've looked it up. The prisoner is taken to the place of execution on a rail, hung until nearly dead, cut down, the manly bits cut off and burned, then intestines dragged out and then finally quartered where you're cut into four sections and taken to the four corners of the city. A beheading with an axe would be better. Even better and receive for royalty was a French swordsman, expert on the sword which was much cleaner than an axeman which could be pretty messy if he was nervous.
It was a gruesome fate, to be sure. Back then, treason was considered the same crime as an attack on the King's person, by far the most serious crime one could commit. In punishing treason, an attack on the King, or even a planned attack on the King, the sentence was meted out in the most horrifically explicit way imaginable deliberately. The King wanted to send a message, and executions of the type you described ensured the King's message was clearly understood - "This is what happens to anyone dumb enough to attack the King and/or Kingdom". It worked very well. If de Montfort had been taken alive, as he should have been, and as the rules concerning royalty dictated, he probably would have lost his head under a French blade. There's also the slim chance he would have died in captivity of natural causes...a very slim chance. Instead Edward, rather than taking Simon prisoner at Evesham that day, took it upon himself to murder Simon in such a brutally savage way, it sent shockwaves throughout the Realm, as well as on the Continent.
William L. Yeah, bad. It goes further than that. Edward IV's brother, George, Duke of Clarence (not the sharpest tool in the shed) was very angry with his brother and did various stupid acts ending in his execution by being famously drowned in a barrel of malmsey wine. It took a while for Edward to get angry enough to execute him. Earlier than that, he hired an astronomer who reportedly "imagined an compassed" the king's death, which was treasonous. The astronomer and a couple of his buddies were arrest and tried. One of them was released but the rest of them were hanged. Which was better than the other style of execution but not much. Hanging could take up to an HOUR unless someone hauled on his legs to break his neck. They did hang high enough to break the neck. Lovely, huh?
Louise - Really?! I'd never heard that before....that's crazy! His astronomer doesn't sound like a very bright fellow, either. One would think he would've known better than to tell the King he's envisioned his demise. Now, to be clear, this is Edward IV, of the House of York, you're talking about? He ruled about 140 years+/- after the reign of "Longshanks", i.e, Edward I, of the House of Plantagenet.
Richard & John have already had enough time. SImon de Montfort has fallen off the historical radar, and he deserves consideration. Sharon Kay Penman and Sir WInston Churchill had a lot of things to say about him.
The covered part of them in the last one, they were both sons of Henry II, along with Henry the Younger, and Geoffrey ( who wasn't mentioned hardly at all in the last one, but rebelled with his older brothers ). Jon was the only one who didn't rebel. Puts a different spin on Richard than we're used to so I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know they were talking about the same man
ferzy09 Henry IV was the first English king to speak English as his first language. Henry V encourage the use of English at court and used English in official documents and letters. Richard II was the last English king to speak French as his first language.
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Why are you using a portrait of Henry I in the thumbnail of a video about Henry III?
19:23 I really liked how the actor playing Henry III created that twitch on the left side of his mouth. Superb method of conveying rage without uttering a word or taking any other action.
Really impressed with all the actors speaking French; especially if people who were nobility/aristocracy in those days would have actually spoken French. So many documentaries on any European topic have the actors speak English if it's an English documentary, so this is a refreshing change.
They sound like English speakers speaking French, which is fine, but funny
Wouldn't be modern French.
jtsnowman66 because they are English speaking French?😂
Dumb question but why did they speak French even though their are English kings?
Well the entire family was French so you'll have that...
Friendship that turned sour was quite a recurring theme for the Plantagenets.
Definitely. I was literally thinking the same thing.
I love Dan Jones. He is brilliant. His book about the Plantagenets is outstanding.
Yes it is I read the book as well fantastic book
I've read his book! It really is a brilliant piece of historical storytelling
He has a podcast on the history hit. It goes into more detail on them, starting with henry II. It is very good.
Ironic how Simon stayed honest, fought for his oath. Even though he is killed " made example of" yet what he wanted to accomplish was accomplished by his enemies.
My reaction when I first heard this:
Dan: He decides to do something bold, something radical, something no-one will expect. He decides...to invade Sicily.
Me: (does a spit-take) What?! Why?! What does Sicily have to do with ANYTHING right now?!
Seriously, that was probably the most random, unexpected thing Henry could have done, the way it was presented.
Lol yes I had exactly the same reaction XD
When the narrator said he decided to do something radical, I thought the idiot King might try to conquer Scotland. Except no, the actual thing was surreal in addition to stupid.
It probably seemed the same to his nobles.
Scicily was a Norman colony. The Normans invaded SCICILY during the last half of the 11th century and expelled all the Arabs from the island. So Normandy was already ruling Scicily during Henry III. when the Normans invaded Scicily they were ruling both England and Normandy. Thus the pope at HenryIII rule saw it fit to be part of England
Ikr lol
This documentary series is wonderful. Timeline always has to very best to offer. Thank you!
The only thing that would have made it better is how they kept skipping Kings
‘Edward 1and 3, Richard 1 John, Henry 4 and 5 were technically Plantagents and that would have been the perfect way to move into the Wars of the Roses
@@joedickinson6566 Yes, I would have liked to see it for every king too.
However the host stops counting "plantegent kings" after Richard II since he was overthrown. I don't necessarily agree with that, and always count Henry Tudors ascent as the final end of the dynasty.
@@joedickinson6566 Yes, I agree that it would be better with all the kings included. I was a bit confused by their absence at times.
Man I feel bad for Henry in this one. He tried his best to be the man his grandfather was but ruling wasn't his forte. I think after his third fiasco at Poitou, he should have just abdicated.
This is always the problem with dynasties: No matter how good of a ruler you are or how much you do, eventually someone down the line will be incredibly incompetent and ruin it all. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Henry III.
Not Henry III, 1216 but O'Biden 2021 totally incompetent.
Well to be fair to Henry is father King John was even a bigger fck up than him.
The Joe Biden of his time!😄
@@donchoqI don’t think you grasped what the op was saying. They are referring to dynastic rulership and how when you INHERIT your position it doesn’t necessarily mean you will be good at that role. If you referred to King Charles III your comment would make more sense because his position is inherited. ✌️💕🌻
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The Plantagenets marriages would be like this:
"Greetings, my soon to be mother in law, I'm Eleanor."
"What a coincidence, Eleanor, I'm also Eleanor."
Eleanor henry the second' wife is this ones grandmother
Henry III's wife is also called Eleanor
Eleanor of Aquitaine was the wife of Henry II. Eleanor of Provence was the wife of Henry III. Eleanor of Castile was the wife of Edward I.
And a few generations later:
Hi, I'm Edward. This is my wife Elizabeth and my brother Richard. These are my children, Edward, Elizabeth and Richard.
Amazing quality this documentary!
Costumes, sceneries, ... the action!
Wished we had this when I was in highschool! Better than the history teacher.
They're using footage from another series
to be honest, I got bored and searched bubonic plague asmr and somehow ended up binging this series, really high quality, well made and totally enticing, I have to subscribe now, god is with me
Just another story so incredible that it took Shakespeare to equal it in drama, nastiness, and blood. Very well told. I've always loved English history but this channel tells history exceptionally well.
Henry II “I won’t let my sons have any power because they don’t know how to rule.”
His sons after Henry’s death proceed to ruin England.
Father knows best I guess
He didn't teach them how to rule. He clung to every scrap of power he has and refused to share it with anyone.
This is a good example of the TV Trope known as Properly Paranoid
Well no, this is such a big oversimplification that it’s false. It’s a common myth that Richard the Lionheart “ruined” England by bankrupting it, but this is just not true. He actually was one of the few Plantagenet kings to campaign successfully against the French and defend the Angevin empire. It was John who threw that all away, and yet ironically enough, John was actually Henry II’s favorite son, though admittedly that is probably just because he was too young to judge while Henry II was alive. Henry III was at least ambitious during the first half of his reign, engaging in multiple campaigns against the French as best as he could. He didn’t succeed because by that point, the french had already become too strong. Regardless, Henry III still invested a lot into the culture of England as well as many building projects. Edward I and Edward III were pretty successful kings as well afterward.
It could be argued that keeping power from then prevented them from effectively learning HOW to rule. That was the basic objective of giving sons chunks of land to run and draw earnings from.... you want money, you gotta make your land produce. If they never had the chance to learn it, stands to reason they'd suck at it
You know, it occurs to me that no English/British dynasty since the Plantagenets has ruled the country nearly as long as they did. If you count the Lancasters and Yorks, both cadet branches of the Plantagenets, they ruled England for around 330 years. The Tudors only ruled for less than 120 years, the Stuarts ruled for about 110 years, give or take, the Hanovers ruled for about 187 years, and the Saxe-Coburg & Gotha/Windsors have only been in power since the beginning of the 20th Century. Just a thought, really.
The house of Hanover ruled from 1714 to 1901.
@@hispanicyoutubeperson6100 Right and that's 187 yrs.
The same coburg und Gotha Windsors are gone wurh the death of Elizabeth ii King Charles is a Schleswig-Holstein sondonberg glucksberg Windsor...... everything else is window dressing.....
The house of windsor is descendent from the house of hanover
@@mione12gft71 Windsor is a cadet branch of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. They changed the name during the First World War, due to being at war with Germany. They are descended from the Hanovers, the transition happening when Queen Victoria, the last Hanover monarch of Britain, died and was succeeded by Edward VII, who took his father's house name. Her husband was Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king.
-Tywin Lannister.
1987MartinT Why are you using a game of thrones quote?
Because of what Henry III says at 13:44-13:47.
Funny thing about Tywin Lannister, is that he is heavily based on King Edward I "Longshanks".
And Tywin's father, Tytos Lannister is based on Henry III of England. :)
what a coincidence
I'd say Tytos is more based on Henry 6th of England aka The Mad King
I am really loving this four-part series! As a student of History I briefly but not deeply studied the plantagenet and I am grateful to be learning more of the history. :-)
Simon: We've had vicious kings, and we've had idiot kings but I don't know if we've ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a king
Henry: You can't
Simon: I can, I am
Henry: YOU ARE TALKING TO A KING
Simon (Smacking Henry): AND NOW I'VE STRUCK A KING!!!! DID MY HAND FALL FROM MY WRIST???
snakes3425 YES I LOVE THIS!
snakes3425 Of course, Henry's father John was also both vicious and an idiot, so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise to anybody. Between the two of them, they were responsible for the barons getting so fed up that they demanded both the Magna Carta and then a Parliament, over a period of about 50 years.....
@@chrisp4170 I'd say the Provisons of Oxford are more significant than the magna carta. It's funny how we completely overlook Simon Demonfort as one of the true guardians of modern liberty and the impetus for the destruction of absolute monarchy. Obviously his intent was of self interest... but Demonfort put these ideas in concrete.
snakes3425 Nice one.
@@Baseballnfj
The Provisions certainly are more significant especially when you realize Magna Carta actually failed and did very little, since both sides broke the treaty before the ink was even dry, and the Pope had it declared null and void
It's interesting that this ended the way it did. Both men wanted absolute power deep down. It ended with neither of them getting it and the world being better for it.
yes, but did Simone seek absolute power, I dont think so.
Edward Longshanks, Henry III's son, is a total badass. He defeated Simon de Montfort, won many times against the Scots and led the last crusade to the Holy Land.
Easily top 3 English king. (Henry II & EIII or HI) Dude is the archetype of medieval rulers
Edward the Black Prince never lived to officially take the throne. Longshanks was the grandfather of King Henry III
He was well known as "Hammer of the Scots" incredible History even though sad and depressing 😢 😞
@@aww773 You're the one mistaken here Longshanks was Henry III's son, the black prince was Edward III's son who himself was Longshanks grandson.
Don’t brag about that to a muslim 😂
I love these docs so much ! But I love the comment section just as much! It is great to see so many hostory lovers with asuch passion for the past that I have!!
I love how this documentary makes the point that the Provisons of Oxford was more radical than Magna Carta. I have always believed it was far more important.
Poor Simon de Montfort. Fought for his country, family and religion, only to be killed by his own people. But his name will be remembered. Sometimes, I wonder why we human beings are like this. Though I am Indian, I have learnt from Simons story.
I love the whole documentary, each and every part of this. British history is very interesting yet so brutal.
Lesson to Simon: Hire smarter guards.
Another great Plantagenet documentary with impressive videography.
I think I've watched this series 5-6 times - twice during lock down. 🌟Excellent documentary.
~Fabulous presenter 😉
The video is very informative, interesting and incisively valuable in terms of knowledge about the history of England. As the one who studies the language and culture I have found this video very helpful and the whole series as well. Thank you!
Edward: *tricks his captors into giving him the fastest horse, proceeds to escape*
Captors: "Well, we can't tell the truth about what happened."
"He decides to invade Sicily."
....
WHAT?!?!
16:30 - "Hey you. You can play the Lusignan a-hole"
"But I just played John in the previous episode. I'm even still wearing the same hat"
"Doesn't matter. Just stand there, and look really shifty..."
Its over Henry, I have the high ground!
- Simon De Montfort
I was looking for that quote the moment the narrator said it. Not disappointed. :)
The je... The barons are taking over!!!!
Niiiice
One year later
Edward why do I get the feeling you’re going to be the death of me
-Simon De Montfort
Don’t say that Simon, I become the father of Parliament ‘I even create the model Parliament’
-Edward 1st
Is this where the game "Simon says" comes from?
Makes sense
Things that make you go "hmmm".
probably is.
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@ The High Scry: Great comment it made me look this up. Looks like the game originated as far back as Cicero in ancient Rome but the named "Simon" did indeed come from the man himself Simon De Montfort.
They say so, that Simon said as much
"Simon Says pat you head."
"Simon Says touch your nose"
"Simon Says grant me the earldom of Leicester"
"Raise taxes..."
"Ahhh, I didn't say 'Simon Says'..."
Excellent documentary as always. Can't wait for the other two part!
@@ziyadalqarni9929 eh?
Hang on, we just skipped past Richard the Lionheart and Robin Hood's generation.
I noted the same ? I believe they also had a part play in Plantagenet history.
T0mat0s0up There are only 4 chapters. They couldn't squeeze them all in.
Ken Donovan Richard spent all his time crusading in the holy land and did nothing in england
T0mat0S0up Richard I was a relatively unimportant king despite the propoganda, and Robin Hood probably didn't even exist
Richard didn't even spend a year in England out of an entire decade. He is perhaps the most unimportant and inconsequential of all the Plantagenet kings. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. Had he directed some of his undoubted energy towards governing the country then things may have been different. A Frenchman who used Englishmen to carry out campaigns that yielded next to nothing. Richard Ist.
Darn those Plantagenets always win -- first Beckett and now Simon.....oh well, just have to wait until Bosworth.
clarkindee How dare you
„The King dressed as one of Simons men on the battlefield almost got killed by his own men...“ Well Well Simon was a smart one ☝🏻
I'm finding by watching the different documentaries on the War of the Roses, you get some info that wasn't in other documentaries. Facinating!
thanks for the great quality videos its much appreciated
Patrick Gilligan pe k floyd
Too nice video...showing how two ambitious persons struggles crushed skull of peoples on their struggle stages before one of them defeated other competitive power
That Simon is a bit of alright. Do not upset Simon. I had no idea of this history until now. Wonderful documentary and research. Thankyou !!
I was also in grudge with my bestfriend sometime but we dont have any kingdom so we just smacked each others faces and became bestfriends again the next day.
Excellent documentary - love the presentation and the tongue in cheek commentary. Also the visits to the actual locations.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@Timeline - World History Documentry You are doing good work, because of you i have learned a lot about the history of my own country, thank you.
Lmao!! 😂 I love how Henry and his babysitters/captor guard guys are "playing a game" of finding which horse is fastest. At 38:15, Henry indeed finds the fastest horse and takes off. But the guards don't even make a move...they just sit on their horses dumbstruck. Why don't they even make an attempt at chasing/recapturing him? They sit there frozen. It just looks so funny, and I can't help when I see things like that, imagining what's going through their minds or what they're saying to one another...lol.
They are saying - because he rode
away fast and got away - we get back we going to loose our heads.
It's the classic tale of "clerks"....the one knight just yells out "I wasn't even supposed to be here today! " 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The incongruous part to me is that Henry III ruled for 56 years. How does one supposedly so incompetent do this?
Like it was mentioned, he was 'God's anointed King' the church back then was SO HUGE that this is one of the examples.
Also, much of his reign was limited and I suppose the barons and stuff were okay with that?
Edit: also, many believe it's better to take the evil you know than let an unknown come into play. Simon was a zealot.
And then you have these regular kings that rule for 5 months and end up murdered.
@@awepossum1059 he was incompetent,that why he ruled for 56years ,he was no danger to anybody .King with no authority cannot be a threat as said he can talk the talk but not walk the walk
@@awepossum1059 Which kings would they be,then?
Well he became king at 9, so he would have been “king” without control for about the first decade anyway.
I really like the choice of actors in this documentary.
In the last episode, the actor of Henry II had a very charismatic and strong appearance, just like Henry II.
And in this episode, the actor who plays Henry III, really looks like an incompetent idiot.
overdosisbringslife I wonder if the actor would find this a compliment or not! Heheheh
The actor playing Henri II was wonderful!! I wonder who he was.
@@hayaglamazonluxe At 20:15 I think that's the same actor playing the Archbishop of Canterbury
@@theprovincial Oh okay thanks!
@@calilovett2063 That should be taken as a complement, he was trying to portray a incompetent king and pulled it off.
Very well summarized documentary. The presentation is so captivating and engrossing. U keep switching empathy from Simon to Henry. Well done presenter for, making history lesson sooooo interesting
32:34 Simon: "It's over, Henry, I have the highground!"
Henry III: "You underestimate my power"
Pedroalí Tovar So.....Henry III = Darth Vader?
Edward escaping : BYE LOOSERS !!
Guards : ...We're gonna be soooo fired.
Thanks for posting, these documentaries are great
I wonder, is the reason Edward was so good a warrior because he grew up watching how Simon did things? It would be ironic.
Yeah. Actually. Edward was fostered by Simon for a time and Simon supposedly remarked about how well Edward learned from him when Edward came for his neck in Evesham.
Edward I in general was just built different. Not just Longshanks he was also known as the Leopard Prince because he was just as cunning as he was courageous.
I think is a bit genetic as well; because most of Plantagenet were good warriors
42:37
And now the rains weep o'er his halls with no one left to hear.
I really like this narrator, and the one who did the Stalin doc
Endslaer135 he has a very good voice very clear but not boring
Dan Jones, written some very good books too.
the presenter for the man of Stalin: Man of Steel is Prof. David Reynolds he has some very good documentaries on world war 1 and world war 2
Amd Master Race p
3 failed attacks on the French, you lost Simon your best mate and your going to take Sicily? I think the Pope knew he would fail. Everyone seems to know what's really happening accept Henry III.
Plantagênet is a French family and almost all the monuments of England are built in sacred stones of caen (France): Tower of London, Tower Bridge of London, Abbey of Westminster, Cathedral of Canterbury, Palace of Buckingham and many others .. ... there is a secret reason for that ...
If a French king of England had managed to take the kingdom of France, England would have been annexed and would have disappeared because the real stakes were the motherland of France between people of the same family. Several centuries of wars for this family war and millions of deaths ....
Such a good documentary...plus Dan Jones is so freaking cute
Really intriguing documentary to me .. I love about the story of Platagenets.
Fantastic! I am becoming obsessed. But, how can you say that Simon committed an unforgivable betrayal of friendship? I was routing for Simon all along! Ha! Thanks so very much, Dan!
Simon de Montfort: It's over Henry! I have the high ground!
Henry: You underestimate my power!
why is there a dude with a cap on around 12:58 in the lower left side of the screen lol
Korosu Yourself omg haha! I had to pause it and show my uncle, that's too funny!
Lmao. The slo-mo made it worse. 😂
Pmsl those pesky time travellers again!!
Korosu Yourself hahahaha
Looks like Tiger Woods was looking for a lost ball and wandered into the Battle Of Taillebourg
I love the old medieval music of the church in the background, it's hauntingly beautiful. Makes you remember how much influence religion had in England and elsewhere during this family's reign. My favorite part of this episode is Prince Edward's escape from house arrest. He's obviously more clever than his father and when he reigns, he proves it and doesn't even have a mistress, completely devoted to his wife Eleanor. Despite the fact that Edward would hammer the Welsh into submission and go after the Scots, he's a king to respect in everything else when compared to his father and then his son.
16:04
"William de Valence, the king's half-brother, leader of a French family called the Listengers."
That's odd, in part 1 he was Prince John.
They are called the Lusignans.
Lusignan
Enjoying these documentaries. Very interesting and intense throughout.
They think it’s all great fun … until he finds the fastest horse 😂😂😂
Best line
Simon dies and reincarnated as Lord Hastings, who was then betrayed by Richard the Third and got executed again. Lol, love these actors get different roles in different episodes, but played so well into their characters.
Henry was born 1207 and was crowned hastily at Gloucester cathedral in 1216,using the golden circlet of his mother,Queen Isabella of England,widow of King John,1199-1216,the golden circlet was her Comtesse d Angouleme,circlet,that denoted her status as semi autonomous ruler of that region of SW France,Comtesse,Countess,,and the title runs back to the 800 AD era,when a Taillefer,tallifer,etc killed a Viking invader by cutting through his iron ,fer,taille,cut,in French.for this the Taillefer was rewarded with title and the right to create Viscomte,by the king of France.
Her second marriage,produced 9 children, the lusignans or Comte de la Marche,the House of Taillefer,was also descended to another king of France as I believe her mother was a granddaughter of a French king.,ta.?
Very good , elegant and lively documentary by a fantastic historian .. one critic thou, the most famous of them all , the one that has all the qualities of the Plantagenets : handsome , charismatic, brave like a lion , and has all the evil side of the family: ruthless, calculating , traitor .. I mean of course Richard the Lionheart , where is he ? The guy fought from England to France to Italy to the Middle East , this all not enough?
I love this series... but am I the only one who cringes when he touches 800 year old documents with his bare hands?
I literally recoiled the first time I saw him do it.
I would love to touch 'em too - thru the plastic, of course.
I think they would be covered with plastic
Just hoped he washed his hands after going to the loo.
@@Vexarax Hand oils aren't the problem. It's the slightly acidic from the sweat on your hands. I agree, they should be wearing gloves when they look through the records.
Really good. Great for passing the time.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at the moment Edward’s guards realized they’d been duped lol.
this is the greatest youtube channel
Arguh!!! Love British history!!!!
10:50 is a mistake that shows one of Henry's problems; that should have been considered and resolved quietly, not with a public split.
I think it's fair to say these two guys were Never "best friends"
Medieval Logic at 42:44: Angel-like church singing in the background, while Simon is being chopped into bits
Famous battles during the Plantagenet 300 years rule. 1.civil war between Matilda (mother of Henry II) and her cousin Stephen of Blois ;
2. conflicts between Henry II and his sons, Richard the Lionheart and John;
3. King John loses most of the French territories;
4. civil war between Henry III(son of King John) and Simon de Montfort ended by the latter's defeat and death at Evesham ;
5.Invasion of Wales by Edward I followed by battles of Stirling bridge and Falkirk in Scotland.
6.defeat of Edward II at Bannockburns in Scotland;
7.the hundred years war between England and France started during the reign of Edward iii and ended at the start of Henry VI's reign in the early 15th Century.
8. War of the Roses in England during the reigns of Henry VI and Edward IV;
9.final battle fought in Leicester which ended with the end of the last Plantagenet king Richard III who was defeated by Henry Tudor who consequently was crowned as King Henry VII (father of Henry VIII)
Absolutely an OUTSTANDING documentary!!
Great programme. Even better when I live so close to the important places.
The illustrated scenes are really good. They complement the narrator well. Are they from a series, and where can I watch it? A TV series on the Plantagenet dynasty would be good.
"Henry III was going to be a great Plantagenet King" Spoiler: no
Magnificent video!
Very interesting choosing of characters, hehe disaster after disaster, it's a miracle that Edward I,Edward III or Henry V came out of this mess.
Simon died, but his 'dream' lives on
Saying that de Montfort "died" seems a rather benign description...a tad sugar-coated. Actually, he was brutally hacked to pieces...for starters.
William L. Obviously he wasn't a commoner. He should have been beheaded. If commoners committed treason, they got this gruesome death sentence -- hung, drawn and quartered. I've looked it up. The prisoner is taken to the place of execution on a rail, hung until nearly dead, cut down, the manly bits cut off and burned, then intestines dragged out and then finally quartered where you're cut into four sections and taken to the four corners of the city. A beheading with an axe would be better. Even better and receive for royalty was a French swordsman, expert on the sword which was much cleaner than an axeman which could be pretty messy if he was nervous.
It was a gruesome fate, to be sure. Back then, treason was considered the same crime as an attack on the King's person, by far the most serious crime one could commit. In punishing treason, an attack on the King, or even a planned attack on the King, the sentence was meted out in the most horrifically explicit way imaginable deliberately. The King wanted to send a message, and executions of the type you described ensured the King's message was clearly understood - "This is what happens to anyone dumb enough to attack the King and/or Kingdom". It worked very well.
If de Montfort had been taken alive, as he should have been, and as the rules concerning royalty dictated, he probably would have lost his head under a French blade. There's also the slim chance he would have died in captivity of natural causes...a very slim chance. Instead Edward, rather than taking Simon prisoner at Evesham that day, took it upon himself to murder Simon in such a brutally savage way, it sent shockwaves throughout the Realm, as well as on the Continent.
William L. Yeah, bad. It goes further than that. Edward IV's brother, George, Duke of Clarence (not the sharpest tool in the shed) was very angry with his brother and did various stupid acts ending in his execution by being famously drowned in a barrel of malmsey wine. It took a while for Edward to get angry enough to execute him.
Earlier than that, he hired an astronomer who reportedly "imagined an compassed" the king's death, which was treasonous. The astronomer and a couple of his buddies were arrest and tried. One of them was released but the rest of them were hanged. Which was better than the other style of execution but not much. Hanging could take up to an HOUR unless someone hauled on his legs to break his neck. They did hang high enough to break the neck. Lovely, huh?
Louise - Really?! I'd never heard that before....that's crazy! His astronomer doesn't sound like a very bright fellow, either. One would think he would've known better than to tell the King he's envisioned his demise.
Now, to be clear, this is Edward IV, of the House of York, you're talking about? He ruled about 140 years+/- after the reign of "Longshanks", i.e, Edward I, of the House of Plantagenet.
Was that how "Simon Says" got started?
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Great do, many thanks for putting this on YT for us for free.
Pink floyd
I agree with Dan Jones on this: Henry III ‘s Westminster Abbey is extraordinary.
I live 5 minutes from Lewes, amazing learning history I never knew about! 😀
My x24 great grandfather. What a fantastic documentary.
Through which one of his children?
Gavin Griffiths, How far have you gone back?
32:29 "Now he has the high ground."
Now we know who Simon's Jedi master was 😂
Dont we miss the part about Richard Lionheart and Jon?
Richard & John have already had enough time. SImon de Montfort has fallen off the historical radar, and he deserves consideration. Sharon Kay Penman and Sir WInston Churchill had a lot of things to say about him.
Richard the Lionheart was a Frenchman who disliked England and spent almost no time there.
norman not really just french, had a blood relative to alfred the great aswell, its all a mess and aquitaine wasnt france either at the time
The covered part of them in the last one, they were both sons of Henry II, along with Henry the Younger, and Geoffrey ( who wasn't mentioned hardly at all in the last one, but rebelled with his older brothers ). Jon was the only one who didn't rebel. Puts a different spin on Richard than we're used to so I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't know they were talking about the same man
ferzy09 Henry IV was the first English king to speak English as his first language. Henry V encourage the use of English at court and used English in official documents and letters. Richard II was the last English king to speak French as his first language.
Shee-ute, it's an expensive tradeoff to be close to the king. First Bennett, and then Simon.
“His oldest son, Edward”
Me: FRICK YEAHHHHHH
This channel is my new favorite show!
I'm mesmerised by these documentaries! And I also learn A LOT by reading this comment section ^.^ ☺☺
I looove Dan Jones and these documentaries.
Dan Jones is a fascinating host!
9:00 I heard that as "he's inside her at court." LOL
Yup
Wyatt Derp ~ He was referring to Simon DeMonfort "as an insider at court".