Great revelation of the Sikh tragedy, how they lost their holy places just because they were minority! I think we should be told more about the Sikh side. Thank you so much Dr. Istiaq Ahamed Sir.
I must say partition was a blessing in disguise for India. Half of the 'sar tan se juda' zombies went to the other side. If India would have been United they would have held us back for implementing positive reforms and development.
SIR PLEASE, ek tho jinnaha ko Quaid e aazam na kh kro please, vo a londibaj tha apne he dost ki ladki ko le k bagga tha harami, drinker tha suver b katta tha
I remember when professor Ishtiaq came in Govt. College Sahiwal in 2018 and talked about partition of Punjab. When he shared that massacre of Sikhs in Punjab was started by Muslims in Rawalpindi,, half of the students left the hall means they did not believe that Muslims could kill sikhs. This is the level of propaganda about partition.
Partition itself was the result of propaganda to protect certain narrow interests. Sooner or later, that realization too will come up in the minds of the people of Pakistan. Satyameva Jayate.
Muslim league observed direct action day all over British India as Congress did not accept the demand of Pakistan . They started spreading rumours about Hindus and started brainwashing Muslims against Hindus..this resulted in riots...
Its logical talk. Who is responsible for civil war in 1947.A big question of history. Its not about public. Leader of that were responsible for peace and unrest.
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
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Disrespecting the founding fathers of India, 1,000 yrs of foreign rule came out of this fault in the DNA , you seem to have the same traits , Indian history will repeat itself , Freedom is not free .
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Tremendous comments and knowledge Mr Ishtiaq 🙏🙏 JINNAH was an excellent lawyer when he started loosing his argument of MUSLIMS IN DANGER he swiftly changed IT to ISLAM IN DANGER AS A GOOD LAWYER WOULD DO, he was neither a STATESMAN NOR A GOOD LEADER OR POLITICIAN, he was only a good lawyer who won the CASE OF PAKISTAN BY HOOK OR CROOK
Glad jinnah divided India, imagning muslims from Pakistan and bangladesh living inside india gives me thr creeps.. unfortunately 20 crore muslims are still living in India..
I am foreseeing a global theological philosophical discourse about the spirituality, morality and value related justification of "their" faith...I am also foreseeing the happening of 'Hindustan banega theological graveyard of this Arabian Faith".
@@dr.tushar5222 I think even MBS believes that India is needed for countering Islam, even he knows that strong values of Indians, and sanatan Dharma, Islam stands no chance of countering
He left out something very important regarding kashmir, when pak decided to send jihadis in jammu and kashmir, the maharaja hari singh signed the annexation papers for the entire princely state of jammu and kashmir to india and asked the indian army to come protect the land and thats when india came in and pushed pakistan out , till date pakistan is illegally holding/occupying pok and pogb gilgit Baltistan, and sold some land to china as well illegally to bring china into the conversation. and then told completely wrong history to their own people about how india is occupying the land whereas india is legally annexed jammu and kashmir entirely
He has talked about that in other videos. If you watch the video closely, you will realalize that the video has been edited in quite a few places. Pretty sure Shayan cut out many details for reasons that are understandable. Black vigo mei thodi jana hai.
Why did India send its army to control the area when the Nawab of Junagarh signed annexation with Pakistan? Your argument was that since the ruler was Muslim and the population was predominantly Hindu, India intervened. Hence, you believe Pakistan was justified in using force to take over half of Kashmir.
@@desilions-e5m If you want to use same logic, Why did Pakistan not pull back Army/Mujahideen when Maharaja of Kashmir signed Instrument of Accession to India. Morever first part of UN Charter also says Pakistan must pull back all forces from entire J&K (including GB etc) before India can conduct a plebiscite.. If you want to use logic, Pakistan is more in the wrong than India. Also, India never used logic of majority Muslim/Majority Hindu areas..Whataver lies within Territory of India as per partition plan has to acceed to India, we dont allow Maharajas, Nawabs, Kingdoms, Princes and Big Landlords, we believe in Democracy and rights of common people (*unlike Pakistan who believe in Nawabi rights). Hence Junagad was annexed into India, not because it is Hindu majority.
The Professor brushed over several uncomfortable points of history which didn’t help the Papisthani narrative. The whole storytelling is a biased narrative. Having said that it’s worth listening to since it refers some bits of history - how cunning Muslims are, how manipulative they were with the British, and the minorities, etc.
Wonderful interview. Learned a lot from Dr. Ahmed. He’s a fountain and wealth of knowledge. We are lucky to have a person of his stature in South Asia. Good questioning and overall conversation flow also. Well done.
Still pak is not even a state let alone being secular state..And i am happy for partition. Radical Muslims being close to majority is no good to anyone.
We Indian people feel love and affection for our Pakistani brothers and sisters till today, even after 76 years of partition. But the thing is , Radicalization amoung people of Pakistan gradually increased after partition, their people are persecuting minorities, I know you will ask about Indian Muslims but i can firmly say that they are even safer than pakistani muslims, despite hindu people has become also radicalise due to indian political era of Rightism. But , Now is the high time for us to get Secular and Tolerant in real sense. Bhaiyo kon janta hai bhagwan kaisa hai, sachai kya hai, or mazhab ek personal chiz hai, jise jo follow krna hai kare, iske bawzood hum pyar se sath reh sakte hai, mazhab ke naam par partition bahut chothi soch thi .
Very well said. Religion is personal thing. Believe me we Pakistanis and Indian living abroad as brothers but in our own countries blaming each others. Jiy😢o aur Jene do. Love for my indian friends
Jinnah was right Hindus and Muslims are two different nations.....but muslims should Have went to their natural homeland i.e Arab , Iran ,Afghan ,Cemtral Asia , middle East , North Africa......
What do you say about the muslims of India they converted from Hindu religion to muslims and majority of muslims of India are converted muslims they are native peoples of India including Pakistan and Bangladesh. Thanks.
@@asadaziz6429But most Muslims of Indian subcontinent don't consider themselves as native they always bragged about being ancestors of Arab ,Turkish, Mughal ......they convineinty asks for secular government but at the same time support shariyat implementation........they hate other native cultures, languages, dance, traditions.....they try to see everything from so called islamic lens ......why?? Why??
@@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz Sir, you are absolutely right I agree with your point of view. The problem is the muslims of India have misconception of superiority in their minds on a religious basis and they undermine the peoples of other religious faith. The muslim scholars those are supported by British Empire split the Indian nationalism for this concept of superiority to weaken the Indian or Hindustani nation and separate muslims of India from struggle of Indepence of India. The muslims scholars and aristocracy accept and warmly welcome the British invaders and support British rullers to control India or Hindustan . The British rullers supported undue favour to minorities of India as a policy of foreign invaders. Not only the muslim minorities enjoyed undue support of British empire the Parsi community was also benefited and the British rullers encouraged Parsi community and help them in business. The division of India was the hidden agenda of British empire and the muslim politicians supported by British Empire present the theory of muslims is onther separate nation on basis of religion. The nation is formed by land culture and language like the Christian's in Palestine are introduced themselves as Palestines with no mentioned of their religion and the Christian's in Egypt are introduced them selves as Egyptians so and so the Arabs muslims proudly introduced them selves on regional basis Arabs similarly the peoples of Indonesia and Malaysia are introduced themselves on regional basis the Hindu faith and Christian faith and muslim faith peoples are introduced themselves on region basis and not mentioned their religion with their identity. The muslims are separate nation on basis of religion is still the main huddle of Indian national muslims to become a part of one Indian nationality. The problems of Muslims in Rajistan are quite different with the problems of muslims live in Bengal or the muslims live in other proviences of India all the muslims have problems and issues are regional not religious . The other misconception which British Empire created that muslims were rulled on India this narrative creates the misconception the minds of muslims of India. India was rulled under Mughals from central Asia and Afghans density and it was kingship of family and these rullers are not portrait them selves as muslims and they never conquered India for religious basis and they never intersted to preach their religion Islam. The majority of muslims which were sons of soil and they converted their religion but how can they convert their race and cut off their relations with the land of India its DNA its culture its language and establish new relations with Arabs Turjs and Afghans. Muslims of india has same DNA and they are from Indian race. Thanks.
Sikhs are heart of India, they invigorate concept of self defence to protect one’s dignity and integrity in what had become a complacent society. Political discourse and ability to question is inherent to Sikhs. It makes government more accountable and responsible Respect ✊
Sikhs deserve a separate homeland where they have their own identity and not live as second class Citizens to Majority Hindus, India has always been protected by Sikhs, Hindus aren't brave enough
*Was this August 1947 speech had something to do with the acceptance of accession of Junagarh a 90% Hindu populated state when Nawab of Junagarh decided to merge his state with Pakistan of Jinnah? Another was the state of Hyderabad south which was also 85% Hindu populated state which Jinnah wanted to be a part of Pakistan*
Very well mentioned the fack claim of Jinnah on Junagarh and Hyderabad . Jinnah has anger in his mind against Hindu faith peoples because the Hindu community expled his father from Hindu community for breach of principals of Hinfu religion . Jinnah had no principals in politics as well as his personal life. Jinnah claimed and efforts to conqured Hyderabad and Junagarh is completely against his narrative of divide the India on religious basis . The muslims of India supported Jinnah to only blackmail the Hindu majority peoples to get more benefits from Hindu peoples. Thanks.
Both Jan Sangha and Muslim League were in the same boat on this point. They both opposed Congress and independence from British. Instead both were close to the British for their respective agendas.
LMAO, Jan Sangha didn't even existed back then. No RSS-Hindu Mahasabha themsleves came into existence in reaction to Muslim League, Isl..mism, pseudo-seculariam and appeasement of Muslims by Gandhi and Congress at the cost of Hindus and their interests. Read more about the history of Hindu Mahasabha and RSS. They were just Hindus. Not like Muslims and Islamist Jinnah. So this is a false equivalence and a poor attempt of monkey balancing.
The Professor has documented this period of our history like no one else. Him being a Muslim helps. His books are well researched, unbiased and honest. Not sure the Muslim communities in india and Pakistan in particular and liberals in general are prepared for some uncomfortable truths. - Jinnah had a simple three point strategy to achieve his goal. 1. Say no to all calls to keep india united. The man used No effectively, as a negotiation strategy. 2. Use verbal and physical violence to make his point 3. Negate Nehru - Mountbatten, by working directly with politicians in London. He offered support to the Brits in the bigger alliance to contain the spread of the Soviets. He wasn’t an idealist. He wasn’t about going to jail, non violence, practicing Islam or public relations. All these were unnecessary and irrelevant. He was all about carving Pakistan out of india. He knew nothing about building or keeping it. One was his passion, the other was neither a passion nor a concern.
Dr Ishtiaq is to be commended for the fact that his deliberations are objective, unbiased and based on scholastic evidence. His memory is certainly phenomenal.
I would have reccomendwd Jenna for an award if he had ensured that every Muslim in the subcontinent had all moved to the 2 large lands that Hindus generously but foolishly gave away in 1947 - Pakistan and Bangladesh.
After 1947 Sikhs and Muslims were the greatest enemies as Muslims started the massacre with Sikh families in Pakistan. The first train of massacred Sikh families arrived at Amritsar from Pakistan. It was then that Sikhs did not spare any Muslim in Punjab. It was again a remembrance of the massacre of Sikh Gurus by the Muslims for many centuries by the Muslim kings.
In retrospective , as an Indian related to Dhaka and my grandfather left after the partition my more than seventy five of experience has now convinced me that the Partition was a boon even at the cost of mass migration and immense blood bath. Under no circumstances and non Muslim can have a musalman as neighbour's. Only an insignificant percentage of practicing musalman do have the courage for reforming these prehistoric belief and practices. Reforms may be centuries away. I am prone to believe that as Huntington predicted three decades ago, " The clash of civilizations " will be the future history of this century.
Ishtiaq ji has the best and the most accurate understanding of Jinnah’s nefarious project of India’s Partition and brotherly Hindu-Muslim relations before Jinnah.
The information provided by Ishtaq Sahib Sahib is not only best I've heard but could be best lesson for Pakistan as well as India. It's most valuable for India keeping in mind the wind of Hindutavva blowing there. It's not possible to undo the partition, but both the nation can come closer, for the peace and prosperity of both the nation's and for the world community.
Deputy commissioner Scardu was Assisinated by Pakistan kabalies and Pakistan regular Army their families and plenty of Hindus traveled from Scardu Gilgit towards Rawalpindi and reached Lahore and then to waga Boder it took one year and entered in Holly city Amritsar and then traveled to Pathankot sujanpur Milak Pur then to Madhopur and entered in Jammu Kashmir ladakh state through Lakhanpur tehsil and reached their respective home and their villages in their own state Jammu Kashmir ladakh state terrible journey and lost so many Hindu people's
Karachi was 51 % Hindu, and Lahore was 60 % Hindu + Sikh Today Both Cities are 99 % Muzlim And the Harrahmi Host is Talking about Muzlims being Persecuted 😀
So well said. I am sick and tired of these aman ki aasha people! Pakistan and indians with similar and left thinking types must be shunned and punished!
Jinnah must be awarded , for deviding india , because of division of india ,India will now become third largest economy .India is house of religions , but Islam religion devided india so deep ,it's after shock dominated indian politics for 75 years ,,&even still we feel that shock even today.
His books include: People on the Move: Punjabi Colonial and Post-Colonial Migration (2004, chapter six, "Forced migration and ethnic cleansing in Lahore in 1947 : some first person accounts"). The Politics of Religion in South and Southeast Asia (2011, editor) The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed (2012). It won a prize for best non-fiction book of 2012 and the Coca Cola Prize at the Karachi Literature Festival in 2013. Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History (2020)
Dr. Ishtiaq is a true scholar. He has not allowed his religion or his ethnicity to cloud his findings. I am also happy to see the drop in the price of his book Jinnah on Kindle. Now I can read it😊
@csheru I agree that one must always be on guard when listening to Pakistanis or otherwise interacting with them. However, that should not stop us from appreciating individuals for their qualities.
Pakistan can be any kind of state. Only requirement is don't build state , family or personality based on hatred of others. Same applies to India. Nobody shld have problem india is hindu state unless we don't hate others.
My Indian brothers , I know Dr ishtiaq ahmed has love for his muslim ummah ..but we should thank him HE HAD GUTS TO DO THE REAL strenuous research on Jinna . No one has ever done this in this subcontinent
Of all leaders of the freedom struggle (Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Bose.....etc etc ) Jinnah was the most patriotic Indian. Because by partitioning the country he took away a HUGE chunk of its problems. In fact the chunk that he took away comprised problems, and absolutely nothing else. Thank you, thank you, thaaaank you Mahatma Jinnah. JAI JINNAH !
I would suggest you to invite some scholar who could respond to dr ishtiaque to have the whole picture. There are many points which can be responded. Dr ishtiaque has his point if of view which is quite evident but to understand the whole picture it is better to get the counter narrative.
What counter narrative, the bogus one that is taught in Pakistan. Not one Muslim league leader went to jail or even spend even a minute in jail. Jinnah was a british stooge and british got Pakistan. I am saying it is not a bad thing but this is what it is.
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
In response to your "Ye jo Urdu speaking hokomat karne aye thay" They did very well as they were educated and well mannered but look what we have achieved since we shifted the Capital from Karachi to Islamabad.
To Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed saheb, Sir, I have watched a lot of interviews and speeches by you and I am quite impressed with your works as well. I have noticed in several of your speeches that you have difficulty pronouncing ZAMINDARI system which Jawaharlal Nehru proposed to abolish. In Uttar Pradesh Muslim zameendars joined Muslim league because of this attitude of congress and Nehru
We are highly grateful to Jinnah for having broken India on religious lines. But we are extremely sorry that Gandhi and Nehru kept majority of Jehaddis in India and congress of today is most dangerous more than the radicals who promote jehaddism. Secular democracy is successful only until these jehaddis do not grow to sufficient numbers to demand another country. We highly respect CHINA for their policy of keeping jehaddis under complete control.
Dr Istiaq Ahmed is honest and judicious in his analysis. He talks based on facts refering to existing documents and speeches of Mr Jinnah which can easily be verified.
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
Why was India 's Independence Preponed from 1948 to 1947 ? Why did Mountbatten suddenly declare that the Partition of India would take place with inexplicable haste on August 15, 1947, almost a year ahead of schedule?
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🇮🇳A United Indian subcontinent would have been great for everyone. But in the end Jinnahs partition ironically turned better for India than Pakistan. A country based on religion can rarely prosper. I’m Hindu, but Indian first. For me an Abdul Kalam is more revered than any Hindu saint.
I am proud to be a citizen of a country that fought against Israel. You are Hindu and Endian, that's why you are talking like this. Pakistan fought against Israel.
@@FredMartin-x5w Yes keep worrying about Israel while your own country falls apart. Pak should focus on itself as a country and not a religious ideology.
@@iliketodream7 who said Pakistan is falling apart. Only In your wildest endian dreams, it would be happening because we are getting only stronger than ever. We have started holding our most prestigious institutions accountable. And I am not worried about Israel, endia and Israel are definitely worried because of Pakistan!
I have heard Dr. Ahmed speak several times. He has made things very clear that 1. Partition was not needed 2. Jinnah did not speak the truth 3. Riots were mainly instigated by Muslims Now that clock cannot be turned back, what can be done? Pakistan has an Indian phobia. Pakistan should carve out its own place in the world.
OF COURSE MAULANA MOHAMMAD DAS KARIM CHAND MAHA GAANDU urf M K GANDHI was is and will always be the ORIGINAL FOUNDING FATHER OF PAKISTAN and BANGLADESH.
No doubt, that indian were righteous... we could've resolved issues of caste being together, rather than partitioned.. and voting on that issues even in present
I am not only a supporter of Partition but a champion and I consider it very essential. I find Savarkar's demand for an undivided nation (Akhand Bharat) with both Hindus and Muslims together a very novice thinking. My only pre-condition is that every single Muslim must be moved to Pakistan and every single Hindu must be moved to India otherwise new nation will never be a stable nation which is an essential condition for progress and development. (BR Ambedkar in the book on Pakistan and Partition of India, written 7 years before actual partition. He remained supportive of this statement till the actual partition)
Had Pakistanis ancestors Hindus not converted to Islam .., the partition would not have been done . This was difference of religions that led to partition
Till we don't learn , why and how this strip called Pakistan was created We will remain lost Jinnah Poonja Chap, whom the unwashed call Quaid e Azam, was a Hindu from village Panali in Gujrat His house is still seen in Panali His grandfather was Premji Lal, father. Poonja Lal Poonja was a very clever chap, initially English tried to pass him as Ismaili Muslim and said he was born in Wazir Mansion near Ismaili Jamat Khana in Kharadar But Ismaili Imam, refused to give a fake certificate that he was Ismaili So in, 1900 it was decided to call him a Sunni Muslim and name was changed to Mohammad Ali Rest history we know how with help of English and Hindus who were also in game, Poonja created two nation theory He got 1.5 million Muslims Slaughtered Handed India to Hindus Hindus, never had any say in ruling India Till 1947, Muslims ruled over most of India. Whole of Punjab, Bengal, Assam, Kashmir, 35 Muslim States, in Central India, Hyderabad with half India wealth, Bijapur etc, were all under Muslim rule Muslim culture centres like, Delhi, Lucknow, Agra, Kanpur, Hyderabad etc Were also handed to Hindus, Muslims were confined to a small strip they call Pakistan This strip was to be a buffer, between Russia and India, Unwashed mob called Pakistanis will not comprehend till they read history of Great Game, which started in 1840s
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a luminary. I respect him a lot for the independent analysis. But it looks to me like the whole of Pakistan is stuck in 1947. They are always talking about the merits and demerits of the Partition. In India in the present generation, no one talks about the Partition this much. I think the reason the Pakistanis keep on talking about Partition is that they are realizing that Partition screwed them up left right and center. They cannot govern themselves and they are also not able to digest the fact that India with so many different religions, cultures and languages is progressing at such a rapid pace. Everyone including the British thought that India would fail as a Nation. They were completely wrong in not being able to understand the strength of this culture even after ruling for 170 years.
Professor sahib is lucky that he has left Pakistan and living abroad in peace and with full security. How Ahemdias are treated in Pakistan by sunny Muslims is known to whole world.
25:37 or koi inha batyaaaa k history sa zara thori dar k lia bahir aaaaa k Indian currently situation dakaha inha kush pataaa chalaaa k کی پا ویکددی پئی اے
Jinnah was fulfilling British agenda to take revenge on Hindus for 1st war of independence 1857. Mr.M.K.Gandhi was also a British compromised man who was given the task to ensure safe passage to British exist from India as they feared INA and hence created a smoke screen they could not govern undivided India due to non violence,non cooperation agitation of Mr M.K. Gandhi . Edwina Mountbatten handled Jawaharlal Nehru with her feminine grace , a weakness of Nehru to agree for partition of India and give Lahore to Pakistan.
Great revelation of the Sikh tragedy, how they lost their holy places just because they were minority! I think we should be told more about the Sikh side. Thank you so much Dr. Istiaq Ahamed Sir.
Sikhs lost most. Their land,farms,their property. They were burnt alive,
raped. They lost all their land in Pakistan. Hindus were mostly businessmen
I must say partition was a blessing in disguise for India. Half of the 'sar tan se juda' zombies went to the other side. If India would have been United they would have held us back for implementing positive reforms and development.
@@GUL121ful good for you right? No need to live with us.make no contact with us. Stay in your own heaven.
@@jongxina4908we must thank Jinnah for this blessing
SIR PLEASE, ek tho jinnaha ko Quaid e aazam na kh kro please, vo a londibaj tha apne he dost ki ladki ko le k bagga tha harami, drinker tha suver b katta tha
Yeah ,positive reforms like hindutva india and mob mentality 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I agree it's great kae hum judaa hogae from hindutva animals 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly spot on
I remember when professor Ishtiaq came in Govt. College Sahiwal in 2018 and talked about partition of Punjab. When he shared that massacre of Sikhs in Punjab was started by Muslims in Rawalpindi,, half of the students left the hall means they did not believe that Muslims could kill sikhs. This is the level of propaganda about partition.
Partition itself was the result of propaganda to protect certain narrow interests. Sooner or later, that realization too will come up in the minds of the people of Pakistan. Satyameva Jayate.
Muslim league observed direct action day all over British India as Congress did not accept the demand of Pakistan . They started spreading rumours about Hindus and started brainwashing Muslims against Hindus..this resulted in riots...
Because it was studied to us in Pak Studies that Hindus and Sikhs were real culprits, but after listening another side story they can't believe it!!
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Its logical talk. Who is responsible for civil war in 1947.A big question of history. Its not about public. Leader of that were responsible for peace and unrest.
33.00 mins.. The Sikh pilot that Prof sahib mentions is Hardit Singh Malik..
As a Indian I want to thank Jinnah for partion
He was more beneficial for India than Gandhi or Nehru
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
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Disrespecting the founding fathers of India, 1,000 yrs of foreign rule came out of this fault in the DNA , you seem to have the same traits , Indian history will repeat itself , Freedom is not free .
@@rj6404 founding fathers? Or British agents?
Rather have Netaji Shubhash Chandra Bose as the founding father
@@AdityaSingh-fu5dl British agents for sure, one spent 9 yrs in jail the other 7 yrs, one lost his life, & had he been alive, the same thing would hav been said about him too , those who don't know the history r destined to repeat it .
Proud to be an Indian kashmiri girl 🇮🇳
Jay hind vandematram
Shame on you 😢
@@Ali-ld6tgWho want to live in KFC sponsered Pakistan ... IMF granted Pakistan 😂😂
❤
@@Ali-ld6tg Shame to you. Vikharitsan people.
اپنی تاریخ جانیں۔ "آزادی کا راستہ: علامہ مشرقی کا امرتسر سے لاہور تک کا تاریخی سفر" کے عنوان سے دستاویزی فلم آپ کو پاکستان اور خاکسار قرارداد کے بارے میں تفصیل سے بتاتی ہے۔
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Let me add thanks Ishtaq Sahib for you're not just an historian but a fine human being working for the betterment of humanity.
Tremendous comments and knowledge Mr Ishtiaq 🙏🙏 JINNAH was an excellent lawyer when he started loosing his argument of MUSLIMS IN DANGER he swiftly changed IT to ISLAM IN DANGER AS A GOOD LAWYER WOULD DO, he was neither a STATESMAN NOR A GOOD LEADER OR POLITICIAN, he was only a good lawyer who won the CASE OF PAKISTAN BY HOOK OR CROOK
Too many cuts. Clearly, some part of the original video is "cut". What is removed?
Jinnah the man who eloped with best friend's 16yr old daughter..... biggest deception a friend can imagine...
Glad jinnah divided India, imagning muslims from Pakistan and bangladesh living inside india gives me thr creeps.. unfortunately 20 crore muslims are still living in India..
Correct
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I am foreseeing a global theological philosophical discourse about the spirituality, morality and value related justification of "their" faith...I am also foreseeing the happening of 'Hindustan banega theological graveyard of this Arabian Faith".
@@dr.tushar5222 I think even MBS believes that India is needed for countering Islam, even he knows that strong values of Indians, and sanatan Dharma, Islam stands no chance of countering
Unfortunately u r living in a secular state like India
Prof is very true on Gandhi. He protected all Muslims in Delhi, Bihar and Bengal.
BJP Jindabad.
It is the hindus he didn't protect by keeping all the separatists and jihadis in Bharat!
@@snathan3198 Very true, and don’t forget Kilafat massacre of Hindus in Malabar (Kerala) by Muslims and which was supported by Mohandas Gandhi😠
@@gopalramanathan7062Read what Gandhi did for Hindus in Bihar before Bengal.
He left out something very important regarding kashmir, when pak decided to send jihadis in jammu and kashmir, the maharaja hari singh signed the annexation papers for the entire princely state of jammu and kashmir to india and asked the indian army to come protect the land and thats when india came in and pushed pakistan out , till date pakistan is illegally holding/occupying pok and pogb gilgit Baltistan, and sold some land to china as well illegally to bring china into the conversation. and then told completely wrong history to their own people about how india is occupying the land whereas india is legally annexed jammu and kashmir entirely
He has talked about that in other videos. If you watch the video closely, you will realalize that the video has been edited in quite a few places. Pretty sure Shayan cut out many details for reasons that are understandable. Black vigo mei thodi jana hai.
@@junaid_2107true
Why did India send its army to control the area when the Nawab of Junagarh signed annexation with Pakistan? Your argument was that since the ruler was Muslim and the population was predominantly Hindu, India intervened. Hence, you believe Pakistan was justified in using force to take over half of Kashmir.
@@desilions-e5m If you want to use same logic, Why did Pakistan not pull back Army/Mujahideen when Maharaja of Kashmir signed Instrument of Accession to India. Morever first part of UN Charter also says Pakistan must pull back all forces from entire J&K (including GB etc) before India can conduct a plebiscite..
If you want to use logic, Pakistan is more in the wrong than India. Also, India never used logic of majority Muslim/Majority Hindu areas..Whataver lies within Territory of India as per partition plan has to acceed to India, we dont allow Maharajas, Nawabs, Kingdoms, Princes and Big Landlords, we believe in Democracy and rights of common people (*unlike Pakistan who believe in Nawabi rights). Hence Junagad was annexed into India, not because it is Hindu majority.
The Professor brushed over several uncomfortable points of history which didn’t help the Papisthani narrative. The whole storytelling is a biased narrative. Having said that it’s worth listening to since it refers some bits of history - how cunning Muslims are, how manipulative they were with the British, and the minorities, etc.
Wonderful interview. Learned a lot from Dr. Ahmed. He’s a fountain and wealth of knowledge. We are lucky to have a person of his stature in South Asia.
Good questioning and overall conversation flow also.
Well done.
JOY SRIRAM. BJP Jindabad.
Still pak is not even a state let alone being secular state..And i am happy for partition. Radical Muslims being close to majority is no good to anyone.
We Indian people feel love and affection for our Pakistani brothers and sisters till today, even after 76 years of partition. But the thing is , Radicalization amoung people of Pakistan gradually increased after partition, their people are persecuting minorities, I know you will ask about Indian Muslims but i can firmly say that they are even safer than pakistani muslims, despite hindu people has become also radicalise due to indian political era of Rightism. But , Now is the high time for us to get Secular and Tolerant in real sense.
Bhaiyo kon janta hai bhagwan kaisa hai, sachai kya hai, or mazhab ek personal chiz hai, jise jo follow krna hai kare, iske bawzood hum pyar se sath reh sakte hai, mazhab ke naam par partition bahut chothi soch thi .
Very well said. Religion is personal thing. Believe me we Pakistanis and Indian living abroad as brothers but in our own countries blaming each others. Jiy😢o aur Jene do. Love for my indian friends
Tell this to Indian muslims. Why didn't you people talk about ajmer 1992??
Hindus have become like this coz cowards like you are hypocrites who never cared about hindus
Thanks for choosing this subject and appreciate the candid discussion!
Amazing discussion, hopefully Pakistanis listen to it and get to know the REAL history of their country.
Jinna was a modernized jehadi in suit boot.. His singular achievement was to partition Bharat.
Jinnah was right
Hindus and Muslims are two different nations.....but muslims should Have went to their natural homeland i.e Arab , Iran ,Afghan ,Cemtral Asia , middle East , North Africa......
What do you say about the muslims of India they converted from Hindu religion to muslims and majority of muslims of India are converted muslims they are native peoples of India including Pakistan and Bangladesh. Thanks.
@@asadaziz6429 but pakistanis are arab's descendents 😂
@@asadaziz6429But most Muslims of Indian subcontinent don't consider themselves as native they always bragged about being ancestors of Arab ,Turkish, Mughal ......they convineinty asks for secular government but at the same time support shariyat implementation........they hate other native cultures, languages, dance, traditions.....they try to see everything from so called islamic lens ......why??
Why??
Pakistan are from Arabs... Pakistan are construction workers of Arab... Arabic Pakistani.
@@SHIVAMYadav-pw5uz Sir, you are absolutely right I agree with your point of view. The problem is the muslims of India have misconception of superiority in their minds on a religious basis and they undermine the peoples of other religious faith. The muslim scholars those are supported by British Empire split the Indian nationalism for this concept of superiority to weaken the Indian or Hindustani nation and separate muslims of India from struggle of Indepence of India. The muslims scholars and aristocracy accept and warmly welcome the British invaders and support British rullers to control India or Hindustan . The British rullers supported undue favour to minorities of India as a policy of foreign invaders. Not only the muslim minorities enjoyed undue support of British empire the Parsi community was also benefited and the British rullers encouraged Parsi community and help them in business. The division of India was the hidden agenda of British empire and the muslim politicians supported by British Empire present the theory of muslims is onther separate nation on basis of religion. The nation is formed by land culture and language like the Christian's in Palestine are introduced themselves as Palestines with no mentioned of their religion and the Christian's in Egypt are introduced them selves as Egyptians so and so the Arabs muslims proudly introduced them selves on regional basis Arabs similarly the peoples of Indonesia and Malaysia are introduced themselves on regional basis the Hindu faith and Christian faith and muslim faith peoples are introduced themselves on region basis and not mentioned their religion with their identity. The muslims are separate nation on basis of religion is still the main huddle of Indian national muslims to become a part of one Indian nationality. The problems of Muslims in Rajistan are quite different with the problems of muslims live in Bengal or the muslims live in other proviences of India all the muslims have problems and issues are regional not religious . The other misconception which British Empire created that muslims were rulled on India this narrative creates the misconception the minds of muslims of India. India was rulled under Mughals from central Asia and Afghans density and it was kingship of family and these rullers are not portrait them selves as muslims and they never conquered India for religious basis and they never intersted to preach their religion Islam. The majority of muslims which were sons of soil and they converted their religion but how can they convert their race and cut off their relations with the land of India its DNA its culture its language and establish new relations with Arabs Turjs and Afghans. Muslims of india has same DNA and they are from Indian race. Thanks.
How many Hindus,Sikhs,Christians had murdered in Pakistan both East and West ....?
Leave that and see what happened to Muslims in India,
@@redpanther9380 yeah, tell me what happened? From 11% in 1951 to 15% in 2011 muslim population increased.
Sikhs are heart of India, they invigorate concept of self defence to protect one’s dignity and integrity in what had become a complacent society. Political discourse and ability to question is inherent to Sikhs. It makes government more accountable and responsible Respect ✊
True. And it’s a tragedy that some of those very same Sikhs are now misled and indulge in mad Khalistani activities.
Sikhs deserve a separate homeland where they have their own identity and not live as second class Citizens to Majority Hindus, India has always been protected by Sikhs, Hindus aren't brave enough
But Pathan are still in trouble ofter patition
Pakistan is only for panjabis
KPK and Balochistan is just use for American war 😢
Even worst happened with sikhs
Gaffar Khan was opposed to partition and creation of 🇵🇰.
Khalat also opposed partition and wanted to be independent.
Thank you Jinnah From India
*Was this August 1947 speech had something to do with the acceptance of accession of Junagarh a 90% Hindu populated state when Nawab of Junagarh decided to merge his state with Pakistan of Jinnah? Another was the state of Hyderabad south which was also 85% Hindu populated state which Jinnah wanted to be a part of Pakistan*
Very well mentioned the fack claim of Jinnah on Junagarh and Hyderabad . Jinnah has anger in his mind against Hindu faith peoples because the Hindu community expled his father from Hindu community for breach of principals of Hinfu religion . Jinnah had no principals in politics as well as his personal life. Jinnah claimed and efforts to conqured Hyderabad and Junagarh is completely against his narrative of divide the India on religious basis . The muslims of India supported Jinnah to only blackmail the Hindu majority peoples to get more benefits from Hindu peoples. Thanks.
Very interesting.
Both Jan Sangha and Muslim League were in the same boat on this point. They both opposed Congress and independence from British. Instead both were close to the British for their respective agendas.
LMAO, Jan Sangha didn't even existed back then. No RSS-Hindu Mahasabha themsleves came into existence in reaction to Muslim League, Isl..mism, pseudo-seculariam and appeasement of Muslims by Gandhi and Congress at the cost of Hindus and their interests. Read more about the history of Hindu Mahasabha and RSS. They were just Hindus. Not like Muslims and Islamist Jinnah. So this is a false equivalence and a poor attempt of monkey balancing.
The Professor has documented this period of our history like no one else. Him being a Muslim helps. His books are well researched, unbiased and honest. Not sure the Muslim communities in india and Pakistan in particular and liberals in general are prepared for some uncomfortable truths.
- Jinnah had a simple three point strategy to achieve his goal.
1. Say no to all calls to keep india united. The man used No effectively, as a negotiation strategy.
2. Use verbal and physical violence to make his point
3. Negate Nehru - Mountbatten, by working directly with politicians in London. He offered support to the Brits in the bigger alliance to contain the spread of the Soviets.
He wasn’t an idealist. He wasn’t about going to jail, non violence, practicing Islam or public relations. All these were unnecessary and irrelevant.
He was all about carving Pakistan out of india. He knew nothing about building or keeping it. One was his passion, the other was neither a passion nor a concern.
Dr Ishtiaq is to be commended for the fact that his deliberations are objective, unbiased and based on scholastic evidence. His memory is certainly phenomenal.
I would have reccomendwd Jenna for an award if he had ensured that every Muslim in the subcontinent had all moved to the 2 large lands that Hindus generously but foolishly gave away in 1947 - Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Wo land tumara kider se aya baki sab Muslim ke liye india ko apna 1/3 area dena chahiye
Nehru and Gandhi are the worst
Then divide every state religiously like we gave you Punjab and Bengal
@@soyebsarkarmoshiur8480you are converts not other way around
@@soyebsarkarmoshiur8480Thats your ideology not India's.
After 1947 Sikhs and Muslims were the greatest enemies as Muslims started the massacre with Sikh families in Pakistan. The first train of massacred Sikh families arrived at Amritsar from Pakistan. It was then that Sikhs did not spare any Muslim in Punjab. It was again a remembrance of the massacre of Sikh Gurus by the Muslims for many centuries by the Muslim kings.
Eye opening!!!!
In retrospective , as an Indian related to Dhaka and my grandfather left after the partition my more than seventy five of experience has now convinced me that the Partition was a boon even at the cost of mass migration and immense blood bath.
Under no circumstances and non Muslim can have a musalman as neighbour's.
Only an insignificant percentage of practicing musalman do have the courage for reforming these prehistoric belief and practices.
Reforms may be centuries away.
I am prone to believe that as Huntington predicted three decades ago, " The clash of civilizations " will be the future history of this century.
Well it is true now we are seeing fight between Jewish civilization and Islamic civilization
What is the name of his book ? Can anyone please let me know
Jinnah: The Man.
That is the name of the book written by Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed.
Absulatly right ishtaq amhed g
Ishtiaq ji has the best and the most accurate understanding of Jinnah’s nefarious project of India’s Partition and brotherly Hindu-Muslim relations before Jinnah.
The information provided by Ishtaq Sahib Sahib is not only best I've heard but could be best lesson for Pakistan as well as India. It's most valuable for India keeping in mind the wind of Hindutavva blowing there. It's not possible to undo the partition, but both the nation can come closer, for the peace and prosperity of both the nation's and for the world community.
Deputy commissioner Scardu was Assisinated by Pakistan kabalies and Pakistan regular Army their families and plenty of Hindus traveled from Scardu Gilgit towards Rawalpindi and reached Lahore and then to waga Boder it took one year and entered in Holly city Amritsar and then traveled to Pathankot sujanpur Milak Pur then to Madhopur and entered in Jammu Kashmir ladakh state through Lakhanpur tehsil and reached their respective home and their villages in their own state Jammu Kashmir ladakh state terrible journey and lost so many Hindu people's
They will pay for their crimes.....they r already paying
Karachi was 51 % Hindu, and Lahore was 60 % Hindu + Sikh
Today Both Cities are 99 % Muzlim
And the Harrahmi Host is Talking about Muzlims being Persecuted 😀
And a nightmare for minorities
who cares for them
Who care for muzlim@@GuzzarAwan
@@GuzzarAwan same goes to muslims in India .if hindhus do same with mullas then don't complain india
So well said. I am sick and tired of these aman ki aasha people! Pakistan and indians with similar and left thinking types must be shunned and punished!
Jinnah must be awarded , for deviding india , because of division of india ,India will now become third largest economy .India is house of religions , but Islam religion devided india so deep ,it's after shock dominated indian politics for 75 years ,,&even still we feel that shock even today.
RSS JINDABAD. BJP Jindabad. Narendra Modi Jindabad. JOY SRIRAM.
Please provide the name of your book
His books include:
People on the Move: Punjabi Colonial and Post-Colonial Migration (2004, chapter six, "Forced migration and ethnic cleansing in Lahore in 1947 : some first person accounts").
The Politics of Religion in South and Southeast Asia (2011, editor)
The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed (2012). It won a prize for best non-fiction book of 2012 and the Coca Cola Prize at the Karachi Literature Festival in 2013.
Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History (2020)
Jinnah Saved India... 😅😅
But Adbooool 1st Education Minister of India destroyed India
Hai naa lundpoozne
Fact is that British divided united India created Pakistan to keep it as their colony making remaining India independent.
Totally wrong perception of your’s
True britishers are main culprit jinnah to pyada the bas 😅
Pakistan aaj bhi gulam hai bhai 😊
😢If e been @@InnerLifePhotography🎉🎉4o😢
Bhai lag raha maal fuk Kar baitha hai😂
The famous slogan "NO JINNAH NO PAKISTAN," is still considered true and valid. From AbooBakr Rana!
Watching from Kapurthala, Great information sir,👌
Im also from kapurthala 😮bro
Dr. Ishtiaq is a true scholar. He has not allowed his religion or his ethnicity to cloud his findings.
I am also happy to see the drop in the price of his book Jinnah on Kindle. Now I can read it😊
Be careful and don't go hyper as once a jihadist, always a jihadist
@csheru I agree that one must always be on guard when listening to Pakistanis or otherwise interacting with them. However, that should not stop us from appreciating individuals for their qualities.
Indeed
@csheru Lol the hatred you have for muslims, you guys claim to be secular and progressive but are just the Hindu extremists = Talibans
We need the intellectuals like him for our country ❤
Pakistan can be any kind of state. Only requirement is don't build state , family or personality based on hatred of others. Same applies to India. Nobody shld have problem india is hindu state unless we don't hate others.
My Indian brothers , I know Dr ishtiaq ahmed has love for his muslim ummah ..but we should thank him HE HAD GUTS TO DO THE REAL strenuous research on Jinna . No one has ever done this in this subcontinent
Of all leaders of the freedom struggle (Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Bose.....etc etc ) Jinnah was the most patriotic Indian. Because by partitioning the country he took away a HUGE chunk of its problems. In fact the chunk that he took away comprised problems, and absolutely nothing else. Thank you, thank you, thaaaank you Mahatma Jinnah. JAI JINNAH !
Lol😂
I would suggest you to invite some scholar who could respond to dr ishtiaque to have the whole picture.
There are many points which can be responded.
Dr ishtiaque has his point if of view which is quite evident but to understand the whole picture it is better to get the counter narrative.
Ayesha Jala has ran away from debates with him. You can keep believing in Pak studies propaganda but truth will prevail in the end.
What counter narrative, the bogus one that is taught in Pakistan. Not one Muslim league leader went to jail or even spend even a minute in jail. Jinnah was a british stooge and british got Pakistan. I am saying it is not a bad thing but this is what it is.
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
write a Book.
There is no counter narrative that can stand up to the truth, and truth is exactly what Dr Ishtiaq has.
Thousand Salute and full respect to this man! What amazing insights.
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahamed Sahab ❤
In response to your "Ye jo Urdu speaking hokomat karne aye thay"
They did very well as they were educated and well mannered but look what we have achieved since we shifted the Capital from Karachi to Islamabad.
To Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed saheb,
Sir, I have watched a lot of interviews and speeches by you and I am quite impressed with your works as well.
I have noticed in several of your speeches that you have difficulty pronouncing ZAMINDARI system which Jawaharlal Nehru proposed to abolish.
In Uttar Pradesh Muslim zameendars joined Muslim league because of this attitude of congress and Nehru
Dr I Ahmed should be on a speaking circuit in India to share truth and actual events
We are highly grateful to Jinnah for having broken India on religious lines. But we are extremely sorry that Gandhi and Nehru kept majority of Jehaddis in India and congress of today is most dangerous more than the radicals who promote jehaddism. Secular democracy is successful only until these jehaddis do not grow to sufficient numbers to demand another country. We highly respect CHINA for their policy of keeping jehaddis under complete control.
Jinnah didn't live long enough, just slightly over a year after gaining independence, so you can hardly talk about his foreign policies
Partition worked out perfectly for India. Well done Mr Nehru & Mr Gandhi & Mr Patel. Thank you Mr Jinnah.
Dr Istiaq Ahmed is honest and judicious in his analysis. He talks based on facts refering to existing documents and speeches of Mr Jinnah which can easily be verified.
@13.00 is the most important reason why Pakistan was created and millions died so that zamindars keep their lands
Now that these moderate jihadis have already got Islamic Pakistan as PERSONAL ACCOUNT of Muslim Ummah, they want India to remain as JOINT ACCOUNT of Hindus and Muslims until the so called holy war of ghazwa-e-hind does not start. Jinnah never wanted complete population exchange and Gandhi Nehru helped him acheive that.
Name of book?
Why was India 's Independence Preponed from 1948 to 1947 ?
Why did Mountbatten suddenly declare that the Partition of India would take place with inexplicable haste on August 15, 1947, almost a year ahead of schedule?
Because Jinna got TB and British understood Jinna will not be there if it was in 1948
@@bibinbahuleyan4902 Sir. Very true
Everyone must listen to Article 370 & 35A TH-cam video by Drishti IAS, which is BEST & TOTAL Unbiased Video, If you really want to Understand J&K Issue from 1947 - 2019.
Very true...I second that
Thank you, much appreciated 🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼
I have downloaded that video.. Very fine explanation..
It seems your interviews are also being telecast.
Dr sahab has great knowledge of India and Pakistan
🇮🇳A United Indian subcontinent would have been great for everyone. But in the end Jinnahs partition ironically turned better for India than Pakistan. A country based on religion can rarely prosper. I’m Hindu, but Indian first. For me an Abdul Kalam is more revered than any Hindu saint.
true
I am proud to be a citizen of a country that fought against Israel. You are Hindu and Endian, that's why you are talking like this. Pakistan fought against Israel.
@@FredMartin-x5w Yes keep worrying about Israel while your own country falls apart. Pak should focus on itself as a country and not a religious ideology.
@@iliketodream7 who said Pakistan is falling apart. Only In your wildest endian dreams, it would be happening because we are getting only stronger than ever. We have started holding our most prestigious institutions accountable.
And I am not worried about Israel, endia and Israel are definitely worried because of Pakistan!
Man..i really thank GREAT SARADR VALLABH PATEL ❤..he was amazing personality who made sure ALL PRINCELY STATES join India . Hats off to him
Jhoot Bolna, Farebi Karna Is the Pride of Sunni Muzalmaans 😊
No, all muslims
su shia
Bro Some Sunnis are like that as well as Some Shias, we can't say all Sunnis are like that , I'm Shia ✨💖
@@paktechniques2012 bhai yeh bjp k it cell he. shia sunni ko ladane k liye comment karte hein.
No wonder.... it's in this situation and on slippery slope since 1947.
Such a knowledgeable man!
Indeed partition was blessing in disguise for us, thank you jinnah.
BJP Jindabad. Narendra Modi Jindabad. Hindus Jindabad . JOY SRIRAM
Good work by Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed
I have heard Dr. Ahmed speak several times. He has made things very clear that
1. Partition was not needed
2. Jinnah did not speak the truth
3. Riots were mainly instigated by Muslims
Now that clock cannot be turned back, what can be done?
Pakistan has an Indian phobia.
Pakistan should carve out its own place in the world.
Great discussion.
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First attack on Gandhiji by same people was in 1934, after Poona pact ,atleast 7 attempts before final one,there's a history to it.
OF COURSE MAULANA MOHAMMAD DAS KARIM CHAND MAHA GAANDU urf M K GANDHI was is and will always be the ORIGINAL FOUNDING FATHER OF PAKISTAN and BANGLADESH.
I thought Jinnah is good for India but curse for Pakistan. Whatever Pakistani situation Jinnah responsible … shame on Jinnah
No doubt, that indian were righteous... we could've resolved issues of caste being together, rather than partitioned.. and voting on that issues even in present
I just don't watch your talk shows where the comments are turned off.
I am not only a supporter of Partition but a champion and I consider it very essential. I find Savarkar's demand for an undivided nation (Akhand Bharat) with both Hindus and Muslims together a very novice thinking. My only pre-condition is that every single Muslim must be moved to Pakistan and every single Hindu must be moved to India otherwise new nation will never be a stable nation which is an essential condition for progress and development. (BR Ambedkar in the book on Pakistan and Partition of India, written 7 years before actual partition. He remained supportive of this statement till the actual partition)
I think Pakistan was British vision and used jinnah ghandi nehru to achieve it
Absolutely true.
Very informative,
Had Pakistanis ancestors Hindus not converted to Islam .., the partition would not have been done . This was difference of religions that led to partition
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Till we don't learn , why and how this strip called Pakistan was created
We will remain lost
Jinnah Poonja Chap, whom the unwashed call Quaid e Azam, was a Hindu from village Panali in Gujrat
His house is still seen in Panali
His grandfather was Premji Lal, father. Poonja Lal
Poonja was a very clever chap, initially English tried to pass him as Ismaili Muslim and said he was born in Wazir Mansion near Ismaili Jamat Khana in Kharadar
But Ismaili Imam, refused to give a fake certificate that he was Ismaili
So in, 1900 it was decided to call him a Sunni Muslim and name was changed to Mohammad Ali
Rest history we know how with help of English and Hindus who were also in game,
Poonja created two nation theory
He got 1.5 million Muslims Slaughtered
Handed India to Hindus
Hindus, never had any say in ruling India
Till 1947, Muslims ruled over most of India. Whole of Punjab, Bengal, Assam, Kashmir, 35 Muslim States, in Central India, Hyderabad with half India wealth, Bijapur etc, were all under Muslim rule
Muslim culture centres like, Delhi, Lucknow, Agra, Kanpur, Hyderabad etc
Were also handed to Hindus,
Muslims were confined to a small strip they call Pakistan
This strip was to be a buffer, between Russia and India,
Unwashed mob called Pakistanis will not comprehend till they read history of Great Game, which started in 1840s
Right i am from India
Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a luminary. I respect him a lot for the independent analysis. But it looks to me like the whole of Pakistan is stuck in 1947. They are always talking about the merits and demerits of the Partition. In India in the present generation, no one talks about the Partition this much. I think the reason the Pakistanis keep on talking about Partition is that they are realizing that Partition screwed them up left right and center. They cannot govern themselves and they are also not able to digest the fact that India with so many different religions, cultures and languages is progressing at such a rapid pace. Everyone including the British thought that India would fail as a Nation. They were completely wrong in not being able to understand the strength of this culture even after ruling for 170 years.
نِسَآؤُكُمْ حَرْثٌۭ لَّكُمْ فَأْتُوا۟ حَرْثَكُمْ أَنَّىٰ شِئْتُمْ ۖ وَقَدِّمُوا۟ لِأَنفُسِكُمْ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱعْلَمُوٓا۟ أَنَّكُم مُّلَـٰقُوهُ ۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٢٢٣
بھارت کی تیز ترقی اور پاکستان کی تیز تنزلی دیکھ کر وہ وقت دور نہیں جب پاکستانی قیام پاکستان کو ہی غلط کہنا شروع کر دیں گے
1:07:00 Shah Nawaz is related to Shahrukh Khan
Wonderful podcast.
Glad you enjoyed it!
India was never divided, only Punjab and Bengal were divided. Division of Punjab was made gory.
"A snake in the grass" Guess who?
PROFESSOR DR SAHIB FOR GOD SAKE PLEASE FORGIVE PAKISTAN AND JINNAH SAHIB .....START LIVING IN TODAY 'S ERA AND SEE THE HALF GLASS FILLED .
Riyaste Pudina..
Professor sahib is lucky that he has left Pakistan and living abroad in peace and with full security. How Ahemdias are treated in Pakistan by sunny Muslims is known to whole world.
Dear Doc sabb pl tell who all voted for Pak ?
25:37 or koi inha batyaaaa k history sa zara thori dar k lia bahir aaaaa k Indian currently situation dakaha inha kush pataaa chalaaa k کی پا ویکددی پئی اے
Partition was necesarry
partition was incomplete
Should listen to Sardar Patel speech of Kolkata azad maidan
Jinnah was fulfilling British agenda to take revenge on Hindus for 1st war of independence 1857. Mr.M.K.Gandhi was also a British compromised man who was given the task to ensure safe passage to British exist from India as they feared INA and hence created a smoke screen they could not govern undivided India due to non violence,non cooperation agitation of Mr M.K. Gandhi . Edwina Mountbatten handled Jawaharlal Nehru with her feminine grace , a weakness of Nehru to agree for partition of India and give Lahore to Pakistan.
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