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6:45 . Pikes Peak highway is 19.2 miles long, cog is 8.9 miles. The fastest we can do in an uphill run is 52 minutes in an unladen 4/8 unit. The highway is signed at the lowest for 25mph, you can cover from the gate to the summit in about 45 minutes. The hillclimb race is only the last 12.4 miles and the record on that is 7:57 in a Volkswagen IDR. The comparison for time would be from leaving the same location and trying to get to the same end however. As the highway starts much further up the valley in Cascade, I can't beat a train up from the depot driving the speed limit, been there, tried that.
I absolutely love this accurate representation of Narrow Guage Railroading in the American Midwest. I'm sure the people who built tracks in those days aren't rolling over in their graves right now. What's also funny is that you guys could've just simply teleported Betsy to the top of the mountain and placed her there. But oh no you guys went all out and proved it could be done even at the cost of your own sanity and I applaud you for it. Also I absolutely love the new end credits scene with the Galloping Geese and steam engines all in front of the roundhouse. Wonderful choice and a much loved change to the end credits. I cant wait for the next RO video as well as the next Four Train Video.
Oh my, that was quite an adventure! Poor Betsy had a rough day trying to get to the top, but some spectacular kenosha moments! Proud of Betsy though, she made it! And then was ceremoniously flung off the edge of the world, lol.
I'm so glad you managed to find a way to still have fun with this jankfest of a game. I'm reminded of my game design prof's words: "You can't design fun. People will find it in places you never imagined... A game is only truly broken if you, the player, let it break you."
17:50 Pedal-powered helicopters do exist, but the first successful flight of one was in 2013, so arguably something like a Mil Mi-26 with 20t (!) payload capacity would be the _less_ anachronistic option xD
they are basically frames out of alu tubes that ways less than you so you just need enough downforce to lift 2x yourself and you are good to go. that said they aren't that safe.
@@dovos8572 Doesn't seem that unsafe to me, as contrary to popular belief, a helicopter with no power is not a brick. In fact, with that much rotor area and gearing you could probably out-autorotate some gliders :P If anything, I'd be concerned by the controls, or lack thereof, in the videos I've found, but that and the spindly construction matches pretty well to some of the first aircraft, and look where those are now
'89, actually, out of cal polytech. The 2013 flight was the first to meet the sikorsky competition requirements for the 250k prize pot, however, though there were several other "human powered hovering" successes prior to that.
I think there are taller mountains north of the loggingcamp, in Railroads online extended, there is a map with heightlines and it shows 1200m for the mountains I just described and 1000m for the mountain you are going to right now. I have placed a second loggingcamp in the valley west of the smelter and then pull loaded log-cars over the 1200m mountain, just because I can
Betsy getting yeeted off that one turn had my sides splitting. Would have been a perfect moment for the Mario "oof" sound fx.😂 And I love the gaggle of Geese in the outro.
I love how the locos spinning out of control have jittering frames and look like a death animation from the Doom era. Also your Oof sound effects were spot on 👌.
They looked at the mountain and said "Train. There." The same story goes for the Mt. Washington Cog Railway: Sylvester Marsh was told he might as well build a railway to the moon. The line is still known as the "Railway to the Moon."
They should have an image of the tender that shows you having a rough day with a throne to discourage you from drinking the water. The image should have two thrones facing each other and two arrows. I will leave the rest up to your imagination.
That actually is working as intended, the water level is for what's in the boiler, and we filled the tank. Is it accurate or smart to just have the boiler fill until it's 90% full from the tank? Not really, but the programming actually works...
Hyce, I just came from a video that was at the CRRM. It was mainly focused on your guy's miniature 491. The camera pans, and who is there? 491 with a very happy you sitting (probably standing) in the engineers position making her lap. My first reaction 'IT'S A HYCE!"
Those chicanes were bizarre but watching Betsy go rolling was a blast. Did anyone besides me (and Mickely - thanks for the heads up) notice how long Betsy's bell was down at the turntable?
Every time I watch Kan building tracks I have but one thought, 'Kan, you don't HAVE to make the bottom of the rail touch the ground the whole time'. There is a whole 30' of bridge height that Kan never uses when building these crazy runs. A friend and I have built a massive bridge run from the beginning of where your switchback is all the way around the mountain range and it hits ground again just past the bend where we leave the fright depot, I'm sure most of the run is at the limit of the big steel bridges height, and most of the track is so far away from the mountain you can't get back on it. And at a maximum incline of 3% mor most of the run, it drops quite a bit over the possible 20 km's of track.
have you heard of the logging railroads that didnt even use what we call rails. they just used logs as track, the logs that they couldnt use and wont worth selling they used as track and they used rolling stock that used specially designed wheels to do it, often they just used dirt to hold the track to gauge too
Here's an experiment for you guys. Can you drive one train on two tracks at the same time? The outer rail on one track on one side of the train and the other wheels on the other tracks outer track.
The caboose racing course I built starts from the exact same point! Mine wraps around that peak once before dropping and crossing to the Iron Mine and bullshitting down to the smelter. I need to dig that back out and have some fun with it 👀
Kind of late, but don't forget the old way of rerailing over distance: sections of track in between. That would have been perfect for rerailing Betsy just that extra little bit.
It will be some years, till I get to a road trip through america, but the railroad-museum is one of my spots to visit. But I will make sure to give Hyce lessions in talking appropriate german words XD
There indeed is (was?) a competition called the Sikorsky Prize for a human-powered helicopter. One person, one helicopter. The threshold was to hover above a meter high for over a minute. Balance is kind of tough, but you'd get more efficiency with more people aboard because so much of the structure mass is dedicated to the rotors no matter how many occupants there are.
Great episode guys, some of those crashes would of ended up with a porter pancake not even resembling a porter anymore. Some green screen extensions was all it was missing. Lol
Betsy is now just lives at high hrothgar next is to build a roundhouse up there so when ever you severely wreck a choo choo they go to the roundhouse in the sky
there do exist pedal powered helicopters.. the problem i dont think is with having big enough thighs to lift yourself, because, well... our thighs *already* are capable of exerting enough power to lift us, thats kinda the whole thing theyre designed to do, rather i think the problem is making the helicopter efficient enough in converting that energy input into lift, while remaining lightweight, and also keeping some method of positive control in order to stay stable
I’ve been to the tallest mountain but I was trying to get to the iron mine from the freight depot and I got there but couldn’t get anywhere else cause the land was to low but I have a fully kind of functioning system
Just so you know, you can actually turn the turntable by looking at the right of the rail while being on it, that way you can align the track easier and you don’t need to follow the stick.
...poor Betsy was never the same again after 2 madmen on dayshift tried to force her to climb a dumb hill on kinky track. When she tried to run away, they kept forcing her to go around a curve her wheels could not take. her funnel is all chipped and cracked after repeated hits to the mountain funnel first, and after the closing of slacks from weird money loss not caused by a Canadian threatening them with polished turds, roughly around the time the switchback madness project was completed by said Canadian, the Central Rio & Pacific was to poor to properly fix it. They considered using aluminum cans for repairs, but their rivals the rio grande southern already did that. Then poor Betsy was rolled at terminal velocity down a mountain and her driver perished. After along time the other person left to get milk before the store closed... right. The next day, she was rerailed at the base of the madness after many many drunken attempts and was forced to climb it and bash into the same rocks again. After 2 more falls down the mountain, her funnel had to be replaced by paper mache reinforced with her original funnel metal shavings. Finally she was left alone on a physics breaking steel bridge trusses with no supports, to live out her days, alone with none of her engine friends. (In Another universe) SIKE, SHE WAS LAUNCHED OFF THE BRIDGE TO HER DOOM! This people, is why you don't have a business partner that was the former chairman of the es&d
I like how the FRA regulation Hyce spotted was the pressure gauge shut off and not the hole in the cab right where the porters rear driving wheels are. 41:44 and which John Railroadsen might you be?
Had to stop at about 11 minutes in...... Hvce, thank you. I've been waiting to hear this confirmation for soo long. Every time Kan would scold you for running like you stole it, in the back of my head I'm saying, Kan has no clue what its like to run something like that all the time. When you can finally just send it without consequence, you send it full steam ahead. LMFAO
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6:45 . Pikes Peak highway is 19.2 miles long, cog is 8.9 miles. The fastest we can do in an uphill run is 52 minutes in an unladen 4/8 unit. The highway is signed at the lowest for 25mph, you can cover from the gate to the summit in about 45 minutes. The hillclimb race is only the last 12.4 miles and the record on that is 7:57 in a Volkswagen IDR. The comparison for time would be from leaving the same location and trying to get to the same end however. As the highway starts much further up the valley in Cascade, I can't beat a train up from the depot driving the speed limit, been there, tried that.
Leave it to Dusty's friend Jimmy From The Cog to have the answers... :D
But the important question... can you beat the train up going above the speed limit 🤣
@@6777Productions But the important question… can you beat the train if you drive on the gauge with your car?
@@Hyce777 You didn't even break a window glass once. as in DV!
Mount Washington in New Hampshire also has a cog railway, it’s maximum grade is 37.4%
"I have the high ground!"
“You Underestimate my Power!”
"For the republic, FOR DEMOCRACY!"
*lightsaber cutting through two legs and an arm.mp3*
It is over, Hyce.
@@ITrooper089Productions "Dont try it"
I absolutely love this accurate representation of Narrow Guage Railroading in the American Midwest. I'm sure the people who built tracks in those days aren't rolling over in their graves right now.
What's also funny is that you guys could've just simply teleported Betsy to the top of the mountain and placed her there. But oh no you guys went all out and proved it could be done even at the cost of your own sanity and I applaud you for it.
Also I absolutely love the new end credits scene with the Galloping Geese and steam engines all in front of the roundhouse. Wonderful choice and a much loved change to the end credits.
I cant wait for the next RO video as well as the next Four Train Video.
Four engines pushing one log bunk up the side of a hill is the ultimate of “narrow-gauging the hell out of it.”
Oh my, that was quite an adventure! Poor Betsy had a rough day trying to get to the top, but some spectacular kenosha moments! Proud of Betsy though, she made it!
And then was ceremoniously flung off the edge of the world, lol.
Hyce: *makes atlantis the lost empire reference
Me, a milo thatch cosplayer: *wearing the biggest damn grin
I'm so glad you managed to find a way to still have fun with this jankfest of a game.
I'm reminded of my game design prof's words:
"You can't design fun. People will find it in places you never imagined... A game is only truly broken if you, the player, let it break you."
17:50 Pedal-powered helicopters do exist, but the first successful flight of one was in 2013, so arguably something like a Mil Mi-26 with 20t (!) payload capacity would be the _less_ anachronistic option xD
they are basically frames out of alu tubes that ways less than you so you just need enough downforce to lift 2x yourself and you are good to go. that said they aren't that safe.
@@dovos8572 I've fallen off enough bicycles to know that pedal powered anything aren't that safe :)
@@Lectrikfro yeah but imagine falling of your bike while being 20 meters in the air.
@@dovos8572 Doesn't seem that unsafe to me, as contrary to popular belief, a helicopter with no power is not a brick. In fact, with that much rotor area and gearing you could probably out-autorotate some gliders :P If anything, I'd be concerned by the controls, or lack thereof, in the videos I've found, but that and the spindly construction matches pretty well to some of the first aircraft, and look where those are now
'89, actually, out of cal polytech. The 2013 flight was the first to meet the sikorsky competition requirements for the 250k prize pot, however, though there were several other "human powered hovering" successes prior to that.
I think there are taller mountains north of the loggingcamp, in Railroads online extended, there is a map with heightlines and it shows 1200m for the mountains I just described and 1000m for the mountain you are going to right now. I have placed a second loggingcamp in the valley west of the smelter and then pull loaded log-cars over the 1200m mountain, just because I can
I have never laughed this hard because of a youtube video 😂, Betsy just rolling sideways of the mountain every minute was just amazing to watch
Hyce in Betsy, screaming quietly whilst slowly barrel rolling down the mountain is a mood and I'm here for it.
I built a 10% up there (from the freight depot) and ran a Shay down, it got to like 75 and did NOT derail
UE5 is truly goated
Betsy getting yeeted off that one turn had my sides splitting. Would have been a perfect moment for the Mario "oof" sound fx.😂 And I love the gaggle of Geese in the outro.
I love how the locos spinning out of control have jittering frames and look like a death animation from the Doom era.
Also your Oof sound effects were spot on 👌.
The engine collisions are off now that they changed them the last patch. You can't have any ground on your track or it will derail the train.
wack
Still trying to get my alignment to the coal mine to work after that fiasco lol.
@@wesw9586 Same here. I had to redo so much track because it was withing the ground just a little bit. Railroad Studio can help some too.
They looked at the mountain and said "Train. There." The same story goes for the Mt. Washington Cog Railway: Sylvester Marsh was told he might as well build a railway to the moon. The line is still known as the "Railway to the Moon."
With using turntables and bridges. You could probably move all of the industries up, and play the game thousands of feet off the ground.
The S bends feel like the light rail systems where the track weaves around left turn lanes because we can't let transit inconvenience drivers
We need more Railroads Online!
I love the Series!
Don't stop it!
A valve to shut off the pressure gauge is just the epitome of denial
*BETSY TIME!*
*soldiers building the tramways to supply the AH positions in the Trentino 1915 colorised*
Hyce getting off Betsy and leaving her in notch 8, almost falling off and acting like its the most mundane thing in the world is so hilarious.
Poor Betsy... 50:56 - 51:09 reminds of Homer Simpson falling down the Mountain !!! Great stuff guys...
50:06 when "smells like Kenosha" fits just a little bit too much.
They should have an image of the tender that shows you having a rough day with a throne to discourage you from drinking the water. The image should have two thrones facing each other and two arrows. I will leave the rest up to your imagination.
This is where the retired engines should go, podium style. And buy a shay just to run it up there and leave it in the middle of nowhere floating
No shay never dies shay will live on
56:55. Hyce: "Go, go train go." Betsy: Nope
1:11:54 Possibly the fastest that Betsy has ever gone.
3:30 The bell knows what you two are up to and wants no part in this silliness!
The spoilsport.
Hyce “Betsy I order you to dismount the banister” (Betsy) “ Fine” [in a sassy mad annoyed voice]
That S bend where you derailed, you hit the mountain and that derailed you
wack
@@Hyce777 yeah, that's been a thing since the change from the old spline to the new spline
I love how while driving after filling Betsy's tank up, the water level statistic keeps increasing. Good ol Keume
it's supposed to be measuring the level in the boiler not the tank, supposed to..
@@darknut9696 it does. the tank is totally separate. so the tank is totally dry when he's running and the level keeps going down
That actually is working as intended, the water level is for what's in the boiler, and we filled the tank. Is it accurate or smart to just have the boiler fill until it's 90% full from the tank? Not really, but the programming actually works...
Hyce, I just came from a video that was at the CRRM. It was mainly focused on your guy's miniature 491. The camera pans, and who is there? 491 with a very happy you sitting (probably standing) in the engineers position making her lap. My first reaction 'IT'S A HYCE!"
45:43 quoting my favorite character from one of my favorite movies. Thank You good sir.
The pikes peak record for cars is about 7 minutes and 57 seconds, and the cog railway takes 1 hour and 10 minutes to reach the summit.
Well hell, no contest... lol. I wasn't sure if the raceway was much longer or was comparable or anything but.... yeehaw. lol
Those chicanes were bizarre but watching Betsy go rolling was a blast. Did anyone besides me (and Mickely - thanks for the heads up) notice how long Betsy's bell was down at the turntable?
Perfect timing. Have to drive back to the shop for parts and this will be the perfect thing to listen to on the way.
Could you please make more of these long videos?
Love the new outro video of 491, 20 , and the mail cars. Tbh its super relaxing
Can’t believe Dusty’s friend Jimmy from the Cog was referenced in an RO video
Jimmy!!!!!!!!
The game knows EXACTLY when to start playing Smells Like Kenosha, the timing is incredible
Every time I watch Kan building tracks I have but one thought, 'Kan, you don't HAVE to make the bottom of the rail touch the ground the whole time'. There is a whole 30' of bridge height that Kan never uses when building these crazy runs. A friend and I have built a massive bridge run from the beginning of where your switchback is all the way around the mountain range and it hits ground again just past the bend where we leave the fright depot, I'm sure most of the run is at the limit of the big steel bridges height, and most of the track is so far away from the mountain you can't get back on it. And at a maximum incline of 3% mor most of the run, it drops quite a bit over the possible 20 km's of track.
have you heard of the logging railroads that didnt even use what we call rails. they just used logs as track, the logs that they couldnt use and wont worth selling they used as track and they used rolling stock that used specially designed wheels to do it, often they just used dirt to hold the track to gauge too
RIP the #BetsyBufferPerch ... Long live the #BetsyFloatingPlinth !
And I think we need a "Ballad of Betsy, the Mountaintop Plinth Porter" track
Here's an experiment for you guys.
Can you drive one train on two tracks at the same time? The outer rail on one track on one side of the train and the other wheels on the other tracks outer track.
Rapidly Unscheduled Disassembly (RUD) is what SpaceX called it.
It's been a NASA term for a long, long time before that
50:57 *346's Kenosha Pass Wreck, 1936, Colorized*
The caboose racing course I built starts from the exact same point! Mine wraps around that peak once before dropping and crossing to the Iron Mine and bullshitting down to the smelter. I need to dig that back out and have some fun with it 👀
I'm pretty sure the Mt. Tamalpais is even looking at you like..."Dude, calm down."
It's great how much fun you folks have! Thanks for having these adventures together and sharing them!
So, Hyce, you try to lead Betsy over Caradhras. If that fails, where will you go? If the mountain defeats you, will you seek more dangerous road?
The S bend also reminds me of KaN's first iron mine route in his first railroads online world
I really do love the nearsighted representation. Hahahaha!
(I also love the member emojis!)
I need the time stamp of kan talking about the terminal velocity of a shay durring the livestream.
I think we all do.
Hyce, thank you for the Atlantis the Lost Empire reference at 45:43.
Bestsy's Brilliant and Boisterous Pilgrimage to the Top of Smells Like Kenosha Peak.
50:55 Like Godred from the Railway Series from the Rev.Wilbert.Awdry
"Poor Betsy got smaller, and smaller, and smaller, until nothing was left."
Kind of late, but don't forget the old way of rerailing over distance: sections of track in between. That would have been perfect for rerailing Betsy just that extra little bit.
Now use it as a "tourist attraction" with a tourist train composed of one Betsy, one caboose and another betsy. XD
Fun fact if you rerail a locomotive or car and teleport you can rerail them on track somewhere else
Mountain Valley Roll would be a great theme song for this video.
:D
"It's over Montyzooma, I have the high ground."
It will be some years, till I get to a road trip through america, but the railroad-museum is one of my spots to visit. But I will make sure to give Hyce lessions in talking appropriate german words XD
I have a feeling this entire episode's soundtrack should just be Kenosha.
There is a working wood fired Climax down here in Australia and it's part of the Puffing Billy railroad.
The day Betsy became the Spirit of the West...
There indeed is (was?) a competition called the Sikorsky Prize for a human-powered helicopter. One person, one helicopter. The threshold was to hover above a meter high for over a minute.
Balance is kind of tough, but you'd get more efficiency with more people aboard because so much of the structure mass is dedicated to the rotors no matter how many occupants there are.
Just need some spectacular cinematic explosion to complete it!😂
Cant wait for annother office hours with prof. Hyce. Came up with a banger sort of question
When it is RGS 20 birthday you should thow a cake into her firebox
Every time I hear Smells like Kenosha, I smile 'cause I know the funny is coming up soon.
Great episode guys, some of those crashes would of ended up with a porter pancake not even resembling a porter anymore.
Some green screen extensions was all it was missing. Lol
Betsy is now just lives at high hrothgar next is to build a roundhouse up there so when ever you severely wreck a choo choo they go to the roundhouse in the sky
it is a looong way to the top, if you wanna tumble and roll!
there do exist pedal powered helicopters.. the problem i dont think is with having big enough thighs to lift yourself, because, well... our thighs *already* are capable of exerting enough power to lift us, thats kinda the whole thing theyre designed to do, rather i think the problem is making the helicopter efficient enough in converting that energy input into lift, while remaining lightweight, and also keeping some method of positive control in order to stay stable
I’ve been to the tallest mountain but I was trying to get to the iron mine from the freight depot and I got there but couldn’t get anywhere else cause the land was to low but I have a fully kind of functioning system
There’s actually a competition for those human powered helicopter things. Igor I Sikorsky Human Powered Helicopter Competition.
I love that we've gone from semi-realistic operations to ultimate shitposting
TURD: The Unplanned Rapid Disassembly of an object.
Just so you know, you can actually turn the turntable by looking at the right of the rail while being on it, that way you can align the track easier and you don’t need to follow the stick.
Looking at those spicy bends and massive drops this line isn't measured in grade but in pucker factor
Hyce referencing the old KSP stand by of "MORE BOOSTERS!!!!"
07:58 Lol fallen off tthe train and the character has disapeared! Hahah
So now you have to take like 20 truss bridges out over top of the coal mine from there and start raining cars down on it!
What in the polar express alignment is this.
Accurate simulation of railroading in the near past midwest
...poor Betsy was never the same again after 2 madmen on dayshift tried to force her to climb a dumb hill on kinky track. When she tried to run away, they kept forcing her to go around a curve her wheels could not take. her funnel is all chipped and cracked after repeated hits to the mountain funnel first, and after the closing of slacks from weird money loss not caused by a Canadian threatening them with polished turds, roughly around the time the switchback madness project was completed by said Canadian, the Central Rio & Pacific was to poor to properly fix it. They considered using aluminum cans for repairs, but their rivals the rio grande southern already did that. Then poor Betsy was rolled at terminal velocity down a mountain and her driver perished. After along time the other person left to get milk before the store closed... right. The next day, she was rerailed at the base of the madness after many many drunken attempts and was forced to climb it and bash into the same rocks again. After 2 more falls down the mountain, her funnel had to be replaced by paper mache reinforced with her original funnel metal shavings. Finally she was left alone on a physics breaking steel bridge trusses with no supports, to live out her days, alone with none of her engine friends. (In Another universe) SIKE, SHE WAS LAUNCHED OFF THE BRIDGE TO HER DOOM! This people, is why you don't have a business partner that was the former chairman of the es&d
F's for betsy
When you jump it you need to yell "KENOSHA!!!" Kinda like "Jeronimo"
today chat you can see our finest workers on our mainline working our Non abused engine and train cars
In reality Besty would probably be beyond the point of repair with how many times it fall off the track.
I like how the FRA regulation Hyce spotted was the pressure gauge shut off and not the hole in the cab right where the porters rear driving wheels are.
41:44 and which John Railroadsen might you be?
Great teamwork! So many times I thought it was time to give up
This is what we call excepted track
Next Episode: We bridged over the map with turntables :D I really enjoyed watching this! Thank you!
Had to stop at about 11 minutes in...... Hvce, thank you. I've been waiting to hear this confirmation for soo long. Every time Kan would scold you for running like you stole it, in the back of my head I'm saying, Kan has no clue what its like to run something like that all the time. When you can finally just send it without consequence, you send it full steam ahead. LMFAO
Idea: rebuild Betsy as a farlie locomotive (add another Porter Tier 1 to the back and hitch them together
You can re rail using boxes. I done did it and tried a speed run of the game. 7 hours to oil.
There are pedal powered helicopters! Look em up
now take a caboose to the top
IT'S OVER CLASS 48
I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND