When I play Deci, it isn't decided whether I go shackle vs razor leaf until I see the enemy team's comp. If I see they have problematic tanks (mime, wiggly, snorlax, slowbro, ttar, etc.), then I automatically go Razor Leaf cuz shackle wont do much against them. I run the same build but with slightly more crit. A glass cannon that requires extremely aware positioning. Edit: Worst case scenario, Deci also rips objectives fast which can never hurt. Edit: When I play Deci, it's like the game knows and there is always a Sableye on the enemy team. Shadow Sneak can help but... it aint much.
My win rate with decidueye has been incredible this season so far. The only things that locks me into spirit shackle is the attack weight i use(which i switch for scope lens and the red scarf when playing razor leaf)...but i can still try both.
I used to play similar, but I base it off of whether I have good CC/Bruisers to protect me on the front line. Now I just don't play Decideueye unless I have a tank or a couple cc on the team
There seriously needs to be a balance against Invis. If invisible targets are hit, under whatever circumstance, they should take massive damage or be CC for a while or anything. This way, Deci could be the one and only anti-Sableye in game and give it value.
You play Razor Leaf + Shadow Sneak with Drain Crown. This is THE most important item for that build. Razor Leaf makes you hit every single target around you and thus also healing you for doing damage to them. Best scenario would be to stand beneath 2-3 neutral pokemon while attacking the opponent pokemon. By doing so you are not only being healed for the 4 shots you do with your full 4 charges but also another 8 - 12 shots done to the pokemon around you. If you place yourself well enough and you manage to keep shooting continuously you can even tank against a whole bunch of opponents. Only weakness to that build is that you can be taken out pretty fast by cc, especially when being frozen or stunned. You are basically always at full hp plus leveling up is much faster since you can hit sometimes 5 targets simultaneously. An example: your encounter at 3:22 would have been one of those best case scenarios. Regieleki would barely do some damage to you, but you would hit both lucamex96 + Regieleki giving you 4 extra standard attacks worth of healing. Later Azumarill arrives giving you again another extra 4 shots while not targeting you(3:25) and even a lvl 5 pokemon respawn at 3:27. You probably wouldn't have needed to use your eject button + unite move. Just Razor Leaf + standard attack.
I think your wigglytuff made that build look better than what it typically would be, they were a really good supporter. Shackle is undoubtedly the better move. I haven't thought of rapid fire scarf though, that is a really cool idea!
I run Leaf Storm with Razor Leaf, helps put some distance in close quarter situations like with that Sableye, and stuns long enough to shred. Problem is I end up having to double down with X Attack, so the set up either works really well or not at all
In one fell swoop they make auto attackers far more viable with the addition of rapid attack scarf (and drain crown to an extent), but also make them a massive liability with sableye's confuse ray.
Rapid arrows for Razor Leaf, power shots for Spirit Shackle. I definitely wonder where the idea of a bow machine gun comes from, but at least you're aiming with the A button, right?
Tried razor leaf for trolling, but ended up love it. Ultimate pub stomper at soloQ. I use X attack for "you die or I die, I get ray or you get ray" mode.
at the very least sableye's invisibility should count as a dash move for Clefable's gravity. It's crazy how for a while Charizard was getting all of its moves and attacks canceled by Clefable but Sableye just gets a pass lol
Bro I think razor leaf is best as when you have blissey slam snorlax full stun with razor and x attack combo it's op Just try x attack with razor leaf plz
Misses too often, or you have to let the enemy melee get too close before it does what its supposed to do. But if you let a melee too close, you get torn apart like...a leaf
@@danielmeyer6994 unless you hold drain crown and there are more foes nearby that get shot using razor leaf. Then you might heal faster than the incoming damage.
Tbh I started yesterday, and played Pikachu. He was absolutely insane. Always the mvp with 100-120k damage dealt. Than I used Ducyeye (or whatever the English name was) with razor leaf and shadow sneak and got straight 180k damage. Didn't tried leaf storm, but damn he's so op
I love razor leaf, but is good if teammates keep opponents at distance or you are able to escape quick from threats, and deci is one of the squishies that is dead 99% of the times after a stun. As I said if teammates help, you even have the time to restore a nice amount of hp with razor leaf thanks to the high Lifesteal, if the team doesn't allow you the last resort is kill objectives quick, something decidueye can do alone, but is more effective if coupled with another dps attacker, in the end WOW team play is needed
Cris I've just gotta say thank you for giving me hope in solo queue, just hit top 10k today with garchomp and Slowbro. TYSM and keep up the great content mate :D
Drain Crown Deci: Oh yeah it's survival time. Also just noticed but is it just me or blissey is usually the mon that scores the goal before Cris can in those scenarios?
Sableye is so cheap omg. I'm a Gardevoir and the enemy had Sableye. That freaking Sableye tunneling on me the entire match. I don't know how they managed to avoid my ult with Shadow Sneak.
Razor leaf needs a tank or you are dead all the time. The ramp up time is too high, so everyone gets you before you get dangerous. The count for strong attacks should be reduced to 3 from 4 to open up some freedom
Spirit Shackle is something a Sableye does not want to deal with if the Deci player has great aim. Is not a better move under most circumstances, fun still.
Urshifu if chasing meta/trying to climb fast. Dragapult and decidueye are roughly the same(they're both paper adc that want to auto attack) Dragapult personally is more fun cause dragon dance feels funny when it goes off and doesn't get cc'd 1s later. But deci can play back from slightly further range
He just needs a mobility buff honestly feel like it doesn’t make sense him not being a faster Pokémon or his effects of shadow sneak should be longer they don’t last long enough to run away
Hey Cris I ran into you today I was playing snorlax soloQ and I ran into you on my team you played dodrio jungle we had rough early game hard to deal with 4 all rounders is tough but I stole eleki and registeel and then we killed them in ray fight I finally played with you after 3 seasons I am very happy❤❤❤
Confuse Ray shouldn’t give a attack speed buff in fact it should be a damage debuff on basic attacks it’s not swagger and it shouldn’t steal unite moves they should all be invulnerable to confuse Ray
The devs a clearly inspired in there mon design by other MOBAs. What is in my opinion a good thing, because you can learn from others. But why the hell didn´t they sketch a thing or two about stealth mechanics from LoL?
@@idunnowhatimdoin I refer to the stealth mechanic in League of Legends and the history of it. The mechanic used to be kinda similar how it is now with sabeleye. Fun to play as, because your stealth get you out for free in many situations, and unfun to play against because you got very limitied options of counter play. A few Years ago LoL changed there the stealth mechanic to make it more fair. Long time stealth abilities became camouflage (you get revealed as long as enemise are close by) and short time stealth as well as non revealed camouflage targest got indicate with a ghostly sparkle if they take damage. I hope that makes it a lil bit clear.
Cris, this comment has nothing to do with the video, but I just wanted to let you know a x attack Clefable griefed the jungle today. I think it’s your fault. Thanks
It's a good build but I still hate when I see people use it. It's just so agrivating when you have the frontlines to have a good spirit shackle game and someone picks razor leaf.
I main decidueye and I would say I perform very well it despite how weak it’s defence and low it’s HP is. They really need to lower the unite cool-down to 100,000-120,000, increase defence+sp defence stats and increase the mobility and HP of decidueye.
It doesn't matter what built u play , u will get one shot by the enemies every time...... And not to mention everyone in enemies will try to land unite move on u so for me he is useless untill he got some health buff
Pls don't try leafstorm is not worth the time if an urshifu is in your face you are a gonner is so funny charging the giant fist and watching how their leafstorm don't do shit. And to explainit better shadow sneak gives you mobility reduces defenses and can literally save you from enemy on the bushes or invisible enemies what more do you want than a pathetic push
Played Razor Leaf JUST FOR YOU GUYS that how much my viewers matter
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Now play rollout wiggly
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staying away from that
@@CrisHeroes LOL
razorleaf is the most under-rated move in the game frfr
Keep chuckin' those leaves at 'em, Andrew!
Big fan Andrew!!
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When I play Deci, it isn't decided whether I go shackle vs razor leaf until I see the enemy team's comp. If I see they have problematic tanks (mime, wiggly, snorlax, slowbro, ttar, etc.), then I automatically go Razor Leaf cuz shackle wont do much against them. I run the same build but with slightly more crit. A glass cannon that requires extremely aware positioning.
Edit: Worst case scenario, Deci also rips objectives fast which can never hurt.
Edit: When I play Deci, it's like the game knows and there is always a Sableye on the enemy team. Shadow Sneak can help but... it aint much.
My win rate with decidueye has been incredible this season so far.
The only things that locks me into spirit shackle is the attack weight i use(which i switch for scope lens and the red scarf when playing razor leaf)...but i can still try both.
I used to play similar, but I base it off of whether I have good CC/Bruisers to protect me on the front line. Now I just don't play Decideueye unless I have a tank or a couple cc on the team
They should make shadow sneak pull ghosty boy out of invisibility among other balance changes
There seriously needs to be a balance against Invis.
If invisible targets are hit, under whatever circumstance, they should take massive damage or be CC for a while or anything. This way, Deci could be the one and only anti-Sableye in game and give it value.
I think your team deserves a like in this one. They actually played well this time.
You play Razor Leaf + Shadow Sneak with Drain Crown. This is THE most important item for that build.
Razor Leaf makes you hit every single target around you and thus also healing you for doing damage to them. Best scenario would be to stand beneath 2-3 neutral pokemon while attacking the opponent pokemon. By doing so you are not only being healed for the 4 shots you do with your full 4 charges but also another 8 - 12 shots done to the pokemon around you.
If you place yourself well enough and you manage to keep shooting continuously you can even tank against a whole bunch of opponents.
Only weakness to that build is that you can be taken out pretty fast by cc, especially when being frozen or stunned.
You are basically always at full hp plus leveling up is much faster since you can hit sometimes 5 targets simultaneously.
An example: your encounter at 3:22 would have been one of those best case scenarios. Regieleki would barely do some damage to you, but you would hit both lucamex96 + Regieleki giving you 4 extra standard attacks worth of healing. Later Azumarill arrives giving you again another extra 4 shots while not targeting you(3:25) and even a lvl 5 pokemon respawn at 3:27. You probably wouldn't have needed to use your eject button + unite move. Just Razor Leaf + standard attack.
what items would you recommend then
Chris biggest weakness when he sees those 💎 👄💎 eyes xD
Nothing is more satisfying as melting a Decidueye as a sableye
@@acetamerragna2852 cinder
5:08 that wiggly unite was tilted
I think your wigglytuff made that build look better than what it typically would be, they were a really good supporter. Shackle is undoubtedly the better move. I haven't thought of rapid fire scarf though, that is a really cool idea!
I run Leaf Storm with Razor Leaf, helps put some distance in close quarter situations like with that Sableye, and stuns long enough to shred.
Problem is I end up having to double down with X Attack, so the set up either works really well or not at all
In one fell swoop they make auto attackers far more viable with the addition of rapid attack scarf (and drain crown to an extent), but also make them a massive liability with sableye's confuse ray.
Rapid arrows for Razor Leaf, power shots for Spirit Shackle.
I definitely wonder where the idea of a bow machine gun comes from, but at least you're aiming with the A button, right?
Tried razor leaf for trolling, but ended up love it. Ultimate pub stomper at soloQ. I use X attack for "you die or I die, I get ray or you get ray" mode.
With that logic, might call it the Desperado build Decidueye 😆
at the very least sableye's invisibility should count as a dash move for Clefable's gravity. It's crazy how for a while Charizard was getting all of its moves and attacks canceled by Clefable but Sableye just gets a pass lol
I don’t get that fun from razor leaf that I get from spirit shackle tho
Bro I think razor leaf is best as when you have blissey slam snorlax full stun with razor and x attack combo it's op
Just try x attack with razor leaf plz
7:21 funniest shit, poor rat lol
Fun fact: decidueye is always made fun of for being really frail but greninja has very similar defense health and special defence
Yeah but he can move decidueye can't (I'm decidueye main by the way) so while gren is frail he's overall more survivable
Also Greninja had more healing (Greninja main btw)
You and Youmus are the craziest players I ever seen, always pushing to the limits every Pokemon, love you, guys
In case of that little purple Devil, the leaf storm would help a lot
Leafstorm just has more utility for me, but I only have a few games on d.eye
Misses too often, or you have to let the enemy melee get too close before it does what its supposed to do. But if you let a melee too close, you get torn apart like...a leaf
@@danielmeyer6994 unless you hold drain crown and there are more foes nearby that get shot using razor leaf. Then you might heal faster than the incoming damage.
Razor leaf melts so quickly, its frustrating to go against but great when it’s on your team😂
Actually I love play spirit shackle but if I have a teammate who has fluffy tail than razor leaf can took down rayquaza in 5 seconds
In your gameplay everyone gives you jungle. It's help you first level up. But in randoms thats not possible 😅😅😅😅
This build almost seems unusable vs sableyes. You’re ability to target multiple people with RL is a nightmare when you’re confused by sableye
How humble, Cris sacrificing his elo and rank just to bring us content we want.
Tbh I started yesterday, and played Pikachu. He was absolutely insane. Always the mvp with 100-120k damage dealt. Than I used Ducyeye (or whatever the English name was) with razor leaf and shadow sneak and got straight 180k damage. Didn't tried leaf storm, but damn he's so op
Decidueye
If you have a wiggly or snorlax to keep enemy away from you it is killer (i had tried it a few times)
I love razor leaf, but is good if teammates keep opponents at distance or you are able to escape quick from threats, and deci is one of the squishies that is dead 99% of the times after a stun. As I said if teammates help, you even have the time to restore a nice amount of hp with razor leaf thanks to the high Lifesteal, if the team doesn't allow you the last resort is kill objectives quick, something decidueye can do alone, but is more effective if coupled with another dps attacker, in the end WOW team play is needed
5:10 i like this wiggly 👍
Hey Cris, I currently have 14k coins should i buy Urshifu or Scizor/Scyther .. Solo q
Is it just me who noticed that new getting ripped by decidueye at 7:20 😂😂
now you're gonna have 3000 people run razor leaf in ranked lmaoo
This is how I get to masters for the first time, thanks to Decidueye
Razor leaf good in close battle. Spirit is for distance
Yes, you become a mid range attacker.
7:20 friendly fire
Cris I've just gotta say thank you for giving me hope in solo queue, just hit top 10k today with garchomp and Slowbro. TYSM and keep up the great content mate :D
How many points?
I challenge you to play a decidueye game using as many -defense emblems as possible
"Fatherless behavior still playing Sableye," currently cracking up
Drain Crown Deci: Oh yeah it's survival time. Also just noticed but is it just me or blissey is usually the mon that scores the goal before Cris can in those scenarios?
drain crown this one-shot stun lol
@@JhoTerra drain crown deez nuts lol
Sableye is so cheap omg. I'm a Gardevoir and the enemy had Sableye. That freaking Sableye tunneling on me the entire match. I don't know how they managed to avoid my ult with Shadow Sneak.
Razor leaf needs a tank or you are dead all the time. The ramp up time is too high, so everyone gets you before you get dangerous.
The count for strong attacks should be reduced to 3 from 4 to open up some freedom
Spirit Shackle is something a Sableye does not want to deal with if the Deci player has great aim. Is not a better move under most circumstances, fun still.
Shadow sneak also is a pain because it targets sableye even if it's invisible
Should i buy dragapult, urshifu or decidueye?
Urshifu if chasing meta/trying to climb fast.
Dragapult and decidueye are roughly the same(they're both paper adc that want to auto attack)
Dragapult personally is more fun cause dragon dance feels funny when it goes off and doesn't get cc'd 1s later. But deci can play back from slightly further range
@@NanjirohEchizen thank you u dont know how much this helped :)
Because of your urshifu video i used my coins on urshifu and have been winning like crazy it's insane how broken he is
He just needs a mobility buff honestly feel like it doesn’t make sense him not being a faster Pokémon or his effects of shadow sneak should be longer they don’t last long enough to run away
I’ve noticed sableye and scizor is a hard counter
I use drain crown and lots of attack speed with razor leaf.
It's difficult to play spirit shackle in a mobile device. I prefer razor leaf.
Really? To me it's the opposite. I can aim better with a mobile device.
Hey Cris I ran into you today I was playing snorlax soloQ and I ran into you on my team you played dodrio jungle we had rough early game hard to deal with 4 all rounders is tough but I stole eleki and registeel and then we killed them in ray fight I finally played with you after 3 seasons I am very happy❤❤❤
ggs was a difficult game for sure
@@CrisHeroes GGs!!!
Confuse Ray shouldn’t give a attack speed buff in fact it should be a damage debuff on basic attacks it’s not swagger and it shouldn’t steal unite moves they should all be invulnerable to confuse Ray
I wish Decidueye shadow sneak become like Sableye Shadow sneak😈😈
i always lose whenever i have a decidueye as a teammate idk why 😂
You said to click fast and here I am
i prefer x attack when i run razor leaf. Nuke everything mode is fun to play.
The devs a clearly inspired in there mon design by other MOBAs. What is in my opinion a good thing, because you can learn from others. But why the hell didn´t they sketch a thing or two about stealth mechanics from LoL?
as someone who is equally clueless in all games, what mean'st thou?
@@idunnowhatimdoin I refer to the stealth mechanic in League of Legends and the history of it. The mechanic used to be kinda similar how it is now with sabeleye. Fun to play as, because your stealth get you out for free in many situations, and unfun to play against because you got very limitied options of counter play. A few Years ago LoL changed there the stealth mechanic to make it more fair. Long time stealth abilities became camouflage (you get revealed as long as enemise are close by) and short time stealth as well as non revealed camouflage targest got indicate with a ghostly sparkle if they take damage. I hope that makes it a lil bit clear.
Cris please a video on wigglytuff
road to 100k subs🎉🎉
I know this Owl build isn't great but man, if only a third of the people playing it were as good as you....
Their sableye was pretty bad, he could have made your life hell and win the game easily.
sadly razor leafs only worth playing if you have good teammates that is.
4;31 So disgusting man
Nerf Crisheroes
Make a video on sybelye
Razor leaf and leaf storm are one of the worst and at the same time most annoying moves in the game.
Cris, this comment has nothing to do with the video, but I just wanted to let you know a x attack Clefable griefed the jungle today. I think it’s your fault. Thanks
Play some iron head Aegislash
It's a good build but I still hate when I see people use it. It's just so agrivating when you have the frontlines to have a good spirit shackle game and someone picks razor leaf.
I only play razor leaf only in standard because I don't wanna give ranked players heart attack
I main decidueye and I would say I perform very well it despite how weak it’s defence and low it’s HP is.
They really need to lower the unite cool-down to 100,000-120,000, increase defence+sp defence stats and increase the mobility and HP of decidueye.
It doesn't matter what built u play , u will get one shot by the enemies every time...... And not to mention everyone in enemies will try to land unite move on u so for me he is useless untill he got some health buff
You just fucking suck at using him
Pls don't try leafstorm is not worth the time if an urshifu is in your face you are a gonner is so funny charging the giant fist and watching how their leafstorm don't do shit.
And to explainit better shadow sneak gives you mobility reduces defenses and can literally save you from enemy on the bushes or invisible enemies what more do you want than a pathetic push
Razor Leaf is better when you wanna go aggressive. Be sure the Atk Spd is 24.5%. 7 Red Emblems, MB, & the RF Scarf
Razor leaf decidueyes are ALWAYS my worst teammates
Hi cris
Hi Cris I love you so ❤
Nice
This move is very teammate dependent. It's nice if you have frontline teammates but if you're all Attackers and Speedsters, it's just 💀💀
Razor leaf seemed so good on release but now… it seems like suicide 😂
If you run full-heal you can’t play, if you run eject you can’t play
Sound like a well rounded and fun character to play at a top level 🫠