Hey, Super informative! As an old guy building a small deck and wheelchair ramp for his ailing sister, I appreciate the updates in materials and methods that you provide. You are a good teacher man. Thanks.
I have started using a air powered palm nailer for tight areas when putting in those special hanger nails. I used to think That palm nailers were just for lazy people that couldn’t swing a hammer straight but it seems to actually be a pretty nifty thing.
Thank You! Your videos are super helpful and I have learned a lot. I am just beginning my deck build build and have come back to your videos many times for reference. I am proudly part of the 18% that subscribed! Thanks again and great work with these easy to understand videos.
Great video. Thanks. Simpson technical rep told me to not mix screws and nails for a joist hanger. The reason is that do not have load tables that show this. I don't see an issue. But I conform to what Simpson has said. Also they say the same on their web site.
Fantastic video! I had no idea there were best practices being put into use. The guy that built my deck did none of these things so that’s why I am retopping the deck and I will see if I can use anything I learned here to improve my decks structure.
Thanks for the video. The part starting at 5:22 about the angle section was super helpful and now I'm going to go double check that my contractor did it right.
I have a question. If the deck has joists that are 12" on center and less does every joist need to have a fastener. I'm talking Timbertech grooved decking with hidden fasteners
here in lower michigan we have to use 3 inch 10d joist hanger nails into the ledger and at least 1 1/2 into the side of the joist. the screws will work too but they want us to be into the house a little with the ones on the ledger
You have to say to use galvanized nails into pressure treated lumber,, also use a short 4" cut off joist block to get correct bottom height,, and use hanger gun, once you use the gun, you will never look back.
Enjoying watching your videos, great info. I’m currently installing a 2x12 ledger for my own home, ledger is 4” over 5/8” OSB, with solid concrete foundation behind it. I’m installing using 6” wedge bolts. When I get to my joists, can I use the #10 SD connectors for fastening the joist hangers and joists? All side screws, no nails?
Honestly the only thing I hate about screws is that, once you shred the screw head, it's almost impossible to remove, also I use screws as a reinforcer alongside the nails, back then on my wooden fence when it starts to come apart nowadays rather than replacing The nails I just reinforce the fence with screws and re-Hammer the nails back into the wooden fence.
I try to drill into my homes joist but it is a pain to get a screw or a nail in it for some reason..the wood in my home is really dence I snap tons of screws
Nails have a better shear strength and screws have a better pull strength. A combination of both works great. The best test, is to drive a nail and a screw halfway into a board. Bend them over, back and forth, the screw will break before the nail does. Try to pull them out, the nail pulls before the screw.
Not if it is a structural screws. Using the appropriate type, screw will beat nail every time. Nail is cheap though, and faster to install with a nail gun.
Ringed shank nails hold really good. When I pull a board up/off that has been fastened with ringed shank nails, a lot/most of the time the nail stays in place and pulls completely through the board. Plus they have great shear strength
@@robtien7 You are confusing structural screws with framing (construction) screws. What you say is true for framing screws. But structural screws are strong as hell, as they are made of special materials, unlike common nails. Nails are more elastic indeed, but a nail will start to bend, and later break before structural screw would break without bending first. The downside of structural screws is that they are expensive… If I would build a deck for profit, I would use much more nails. But when I build it for myself, I use only structural screws.
@@juzoli Can you provide a citation for that? Simpson Strong-Drive screws are structural screws, and I haven't read anywhere on their website where they claim their SD screws are stronger than equivelent diameter nails.
What do you recommend for fastening joist to rim joist from the joist side? The deck I'm building is butted up to an existing structure so I can not fasten the joist from the outside of the rim joist. I do not need joist hangers. Thank you.
I wonder what your rep would say about mixing nails and screws on the joist hangers. I read on their website that they do not recommend using a combination of nails and screws.
If you are talking about Simpson, I believe they state not to use nails AND screw in the same connection. Which I read to be 2 in 1 whole, which is never right no matter what...
Hey, Super informative! As an old guy building a small deck and wheelchair ramp for his ailing sister, I appreciate the updates in materials and methods that you provide. You are a good teacher man. Thanks.
I have started using a air powered palm nailer for tight areas when putting in those special hanger nails. I used to think That palm nailers were just for lazy people that couldn’t swing a hammer straight but it seems to actually be a pretty nifty thing.
Thank You! Your videos are super helpful and I have learned a lot. I am just beginning my deck build build and have come back to your videos many times for reference. I am proudly part of the 18% that subscribed! Thanks again and great work with these easy to understand videos.
Great video. Thanks. Simpson technical rep told me to not mix screws and nails for a joist hanger. The reason is that do not have load tables that show this. I don't see an issue. But I conform to what Simpson has said. Also they say the same on their web site.
Fantastic video! I had no idea there were best practices being put into use. The guy that built my deck did none of these things so that’s why I am retopping the deck and I will see if I can use anything I learned here to improve my decks structure.
Thanks for the video. The part starting at 5:22 about the angle section was super helpful and now I'm going to go double check that my contractor did it right.
I have a question. If the deck has joists that are 12" on center and less does every joist need to have a fastener. I'm talking Timbertech grooved decking with hidden fasteners
here in lower michigan we have to use 3 inch 10d joist hanger nails into the ledger and at least 1 1/2 into the side of the joist. the screws will work too but they want us to be into the house a little with the ones on the ledger
I just ordered the Metabo HPT cordless metal connector this week. Haven’t gotten it yet, what do you guys think of yours?
Found you on instagram and then you popped up on my youtube feed not long after. Thanks for the videos!
In Florida with the heat, humidity and sun the nails tend to back out of the wood over time.
Use ring nails.
I built my deck using no nails.
Only bolts and screws.
Even the joist hangers and hurricane straps. All screws.
Helpful Information. Thanks
You have to say to use galvanized nails into pressure treated lumber,, also use a short 4" cut off joist block to get correct bottom height,, and use hanger gun, once you use the gun, you will never look back.
Enjoying watching your videos, great info. I’m currently installing a 2x12 ledger for my own home, ledger is 4” over 5/8” OSB, with solid concrete foundation behind it.
I’m installing using 6” wedge bolts.
When I get to my joists, can I use the #10 SD connectors for fastening the joist hangers and joists? All side screws, no nails?
You may run into issues with the 2 1/2” SS screws where the concrete is. Simpson makes a 1 1/2” screw as well
I hope people understand construction screws have came along way. Grk has screws you can frame with.
So informative.. thank you.
Thanks!
Honestly the only thing I hate about screws is that, once you shred the screw head, it's almost impossible to remove, also I use screws as a reinforcer alongside the nails, back then on my wooden fence when it starts to come apart nowadays rather than replacing The nails I just reinforce the fence with screws and re-Hammer the nails back into the wooden fence.
So I don't have a nail gun, as an alternative I can use 1.5 inch structural screws?
Can you get away with using carbon deck screws for the blocking? Thanks.
Great video thank you
I try to drill into my homes joist but it is a pain to get a screw or a nail in it for some reason..the wood in my home is really dence I snap tons of screws
I had my bathroom floor redid and the guys that did it used joist hangers and they ued screws now the floor is sqeking when you walk on it.
Thx!
Nails have a better shear strength and screws have a better pull strength.
A combination of both works great.
The best test, is to drive a nail and a screw halfway into a board. Bend them over, back and forth, the screw will break before the nail does. Try to pull them out, the nail pulls before the screw.
Not if it is a structural screws. Using the appropriate type, screw will beat nail every time. Nail is cheap though, and faster to install with a nail gun.
Ringed shank nails hold really good.
When I pull a board up/off that has been fastened with ringed shank nails, a lot/most of the time the nail stays in place and pulls completely through the board. Plus they have great shear strength
@@juzoli if you have a structural screw and a nail that have the same diameter, the nail will still have a far greater shear strength
@@robtien7 You are confusing structural screws with framing (construction) screws. What you say is true for framing screws.
But structural screws are strong as hell, as they are made of special materials, unlike common nails. Nails are more elastic indeed, but a nail will start to bend, and later break before structural screw would break without bending first.
The downside of structural screws is that they are expensive… If I would build a deck for profit, I would use much more nails. But when I build it for myself, I use only structural screws.
@@juzoli Can you provide a citation for that? Simpson Strong-Drive screws are structural screws, and I haven't read anywhere on their website where they claim their SD screws are stronger than equivelent diameter nails.
nice work
Simpson vs Camo vs Fasten master 3" structural screw? Simpson is the cheapest at Lowes rn
No nail gun or metal connector footage?
What do you recommend for fastening joist to rim joist from the joist side? The deck I'm building is butted up to an existing structure so I can not fasten the joist from the outside of the rim joist. I do not need joist hangers.
Thank you.
You only option is to splurge for the $1.50 hangers or do a crappy, sub-optimal toe-nail.
Thanks for the info!
I wonder what your rep would say about mixing nails and screws on the joist hangers. I read on their website that they do not recommend using a combination of nails and screws.
If you are talking about Simpson, I believe they state not to use nails AND screw in the same connection. Which I read to be 2 in 1 whole, which is never right no matter what...
Good Video!
Stainless steel screws are more flexible than steel screws.
I see you're team yellow but isn' the Dewalt blower ass cheeks? Ego has the best battery blower my friend.
Quit using that hammer. Use a hammer with a wooden handle, and you wouldn't have bad wrists. 40 years swinging a hammer and no wrist problems.