I just purchased the 28gal Camco Rhino and they have since fixed the wheel issue. They have redesigned the axel and the wheels are now secured with a snap ring instead of a metal cap. For anyone who was worried about the wheels still being an issue. I give props to Camco for listening to customers and fixing the issue.
I place my sewer tote in the bed of the pickup. Use a portable RV waste pump 12volt. Use the pump the fill the tote as it will pump uphill. Then drive to the sewer dump and it will gravity feed empty from the pickup bed. Works especially well when boondocking and not near a waste dump.
Daniel, we have thought about getting a pump. So far, the only time we weren’t near a dump was when we quarantined for two weeks on a friends 100 acre farm. But we hope to boondock in the near future. Thanks, Alice
Camco Rhino mfg supplied plastic wheels BOTH broke at the spokes on 2nd dump trip in Quartzite AZ LTVA. Never went above 5 mph on the bumpy Quartzite dirt roads towing the shwagon. I replaced the junky plastic rear wheel kit with high quality air filled offroad tires with steel wheels and new allthread axle. Seeing that a front wheel kit is an option now I will pick one up [I hate lugging my shwagon to the hitch ball] and again upgrade to steel wheels to avoid the inevitable plastic wheel failure. Awesome review vid!
Have watched your vids on both of your 'tank tests', the lifting part of the Rhino tank(s) was a major concern (74 years old now) and don't wanna mess up my back. Now that the wheel kit is an option you can add or buy installed from the factory, will for sure get the Rhino. Thanks for the thorough vids.
Another Great episode!!! Purchased a 28 gal Camco last fall and will use it for the first time in a couple weeks. Will keep you posted! Thx again! John
UPDATE: Just spent the last 10 days with my 28 gal CAMCO. Very pleased and it worked great. I also purchased the rear bumper mount and it has been an excellent way to haul the unit. My bumper already additional brackets welded to the frame, but I will keep an eye on the joints as we travel more this year. Thx again for the wonderful review.
@@johndernberger1961 Good to hear the bumper bracket works well. And yes keep an eye on the welds- after our bumper broke, we are so glad we had it professionally welded with a tow receiver hitch.
Thank you for a super video. It really helped in deciding which waste tote to buy. I still chuckle about your filming the towing tests...it must have been a sight to see.
I have a 36 Camco Rhino and with two wheels and one failed after about 4 to 6 trips that were 4 football fields long. I replaced them real tires like the Barker has, now works vary good.
That is exactly why i added the cap screws to keep the wheels on. I am going to give those wheels a real test over the next six months or so to see if they can handle the long haul. I would be nice if Camco offered a version with barker like tires and wheels, or an upgrade kit to make it easy. Larry
To each his own. We use the 42 gal barker now for 5 yrs. Changed out the rubber tires account tubes were not holding up so we bought hard tires at Tractor Supply. We like the 42 gals account it takes less trips to the dump. One other thing I don't understand is people using the ladder to store thing in traveling. Ladders were not made to store things. They have come lose from the wall and its no fun being 8 ft off the ground and the ladder comes lose. As a RV Tech I don't promote using the ladder as a tote.
Great video. I just purchased the 28 gallon 4 wheel rhino and used it on our last trip. I really like it but I do agree that the wheels are its weakest link. The campground we stay at the most is all gravel roads and the wheels (front) seemed to do allot of skipping on the rocks. We towed it with a electric golf cart and I was able to see the wheels while transporting. I also noticed that after only a few trips the rubber on the wheels had allot of wear to them from the rocks. I may look into replacing the wheels with pneumatic wheels when these wear out.
Charles, thanks. We are thinking about replacing the wheels if we see a problem. We thought about taking the ones of the Barker. But I don’t think anyone wants to see yet another waste tote video from us 😂 We would love to hear how your wheel replacement goes, Alice
Question: I just got my cart and was thinking I might get the wheel kit to move the tank to the truck, but then use the other bracket and only the rear wheels on the ground. Seems like it would travel better. So, 1) can you do this or 2) maybe it travels just fine on all four (those front small wheels on a dirt road was my concern). Thanks!
I have one and have used just about all of them but i have switched to rino 36gal. Leave it in the truck and use a macearater pump for dumping it is the best way i have found to do the job in 33 years of rving
I also have a small pump to be able to put the tote in the back of the truck for long trips to the dump station. Ours is not a macerator pump but we only use it for grey water. I think I will invest in a portable compact macerator pump at some point for those long dump station trips. We have teh 28 gallon rhino, the 36 is just too big to manage. Thanks for sharing . Larry
That’s funny Rawel and I have been buds for years, so Eyla is your Sister? They are an awesome family, trying to get Rawel to join the Mobile Life. Good luck on the new RV, call anytime if you wan to talk RVs, Rawel has my number. Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCents Yes! That's my sister. I got your info from Rawel. We are excited to get the adventures started. Let's hope out Rockwood doesn't get delayed again. We were scheduled to get it in March however with all the issues the RV industry is having it was pushed back to June.
I never have put air in the barker tires, even after a year they were firm. If I had a TT I would get the Hensley. I had an equalizer when we had a TT and it wasn’t that great. Larry
We bought the Rhino also. Incidentally, we pull our GD 2400BH camper with the Hensley ProPride 3P hitch. Amazing difference from our Equalizer E4 hitch. The ability to easily adjust the weight distribution for different trailer loading is great too. Absolutely eliminates all sway. I don't see myself ever pulling another travel trailer without the 3P.
Thx DMC for an informative and entertaining product review video . FWIW have used a Barker 42gal blue tote for 3 yrs with our 40' TH. We do alot of boon docking somdraggingnthe full totemis a work out. I've found leaving tote in truck bed and using macerator waste pump to fill was easier on my degenersting back (fused vertebrae) The camco has a neat drain feature but looks like it has childs toy wheels in comparison to Barker's. I have been long time Camco consumer and advocate but for my application I'll stay blue. I hope iTHE Camco holds up for your use @ least you've got the Barker for a back up. Happy Camping and stay healthy.
I agree the wheels on the camco do look like a child’s toy thing. One of the reasons I switched back to the camco is I wanted to see if the wheels would hold up on long pulls. I have looked at the macerator as an option, but so far we have not needed it. A campground host a ran into at the dump station showed me his tank and Maserator rig, it was pretty cool, no lifting or towing. Larry
Wade Bell here - I met you at Fort Clinch while you were recording. My wife is Pam Bell (Pam Bell Photography Inc,) Looking forward to following you and your adventures. All The Best - Wade
Good review Larry. Just purchased the Rhino 28 yesterday and from your review I think that was the best choice for me. In a private small rv park I found a Rhino 36 sitting in the field. The tank looked good but the hubs on those plastic wheels on the rear were shot. The dump station was about 2 miles of paved steep hills. I’m sure they drug that thing to fast and melted the plastic wheels. So that’s why I ordered the 28 thinking of all that friction on plastic wheels. My current location, the dump is only 100 yds away so I’m hoping the two wheel will suffice, but just incase of wheel failure I also purchased a macerator and could fill the tank while sitting on the bed of the truck.
I think the rhino will do fine on short hauls like yours, the 28 gallon is the perfect size for us. I would like to get the macerator pump so i could put the tank on the truck for when we have to go a very long distance to dump the tote. Larry.
Hey, Larry! 1) Are you planning a follow up video as to rhino's capabilities? 2) Have you considered changing out the axle with a longer one, then putting a washer & carter pin as a retainer?
Keep doing what and how your doing your videos. IMHO your very thorough in your explanation. I thought your tests were fair my only question is, can I get away with just using the 28 gallon Camco seems easier on one’s body ! Great work 👍🏻
yes you can definitely get away with the 28 gal which is what we have. we can dump about half of our 50 gal grey tank at a time, it fills it up but is still easy to move around with the 4 wheel kit. Larry
I agree 100% on the 4 wheels. I have the 36gal Camco and it will for sure break your back after a few loads. I agree with changing that to a pin on the Camco so you can remove the bar. I would do the same thing. Would be nice if they made the bar a little longer just for more ease. That Camco bar can be doubled for personal security if there is any issues. lol Do the screws have any rubber seals on them to prevent leaks? That would be nice. So far we really like ours when we use it. I think you made the right choice. Mostly cause it's the same choice I made. lol Great video. I will be ordering that kit.
That is so funny about the Tow Bar being Defensive Weapon in an emergency. The screws do not go through the plastic, the metal inserts are molded into the plastic water tight. We will see if I made the right choice, I will do my best to see if I can torture the tote on those Canadian roads this summer. Lar
You can upgrade the wheels on the camco rhino. Buy a longer axle and 10+ inch pnuematic wheels (Amazon carries 2 packs for about $30. Harbor Freight about $10 each or $15 each for 13 inch). Optionally you could upgrade the front wheels also.
Larry attached it to an e-bike and went down the road just outside of Frisco campground in the Outer Banks - pretty bumpy 😁 Gravel road no problem, too Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Thanks. In the places I camp I’m thinking my best solution might be to use a macerator to fill a waste tote while it’s in the bed of the pickup.
Great video. I think I would stick to the Camco Rhino. For now. I remember you doing the video on them both last year. I like the Rhino for now it holds a lot more it looks like. Thank you so much for doing the test on them both. Thank you fir a great job on the video too! Cs t wait till the next one. See you next week. Stay safe.
That makes sense. We don’t need ours unless we go over about 10 days or if there is no bath house for Larry to shower in. I only use our shower, but do Navy showers and skip a day here or there, Alice
Great update video, you've really been knocking it out of the park with your latest videos 👍. Just ordered components for my solar setup on the Winnebago project. I decided on a 24-volt system. What voltage did you go with?
Thanks Brian, we are trying to get better. I have 24 volt panels, wire in parallel to a combiner box. The battery system is 12 volts, 4 battle born batteries in parallel. I am going to do my solar system overview soon. Call me if you want to talk about solar, inverters etc. Lar
Oh, my. What on earth did you eat to be able to fill both of them for the demonstration? That's genuine dedication! All kidding aside, thanks for the comparison!
I actually do love the barker tote, The big problems I had were, I needed a handle to lift it onto my mike rack for traveling, there is nothing to grab onto with the barker, plus it was so hard to get it completely empty. I’m worried about the camco wheels holding up, which is why I am keeping the barker, just in case. Larry
The Camco Rhino tote tank now comes equipped with the same C-clip retainers as the front wheel kit so there's no need to do the pressure cap modification.
I have the Camco rhino 28 gallon and purchased the wheel kit. I hung it on my ladder. Within a few trips the hook and bracket started bending. It needs to be beefed up.
Hi! Love your video… but still undecided between the Barker and the Camco. 🤔 We have a Class A RV and the grey and black water tanks are quite big (53 and 38 gallons). Next winter, based on campground reservations, we will be walking to the dump stations, so easiness to roll the 4 wheel is an issue. Any advice? Thx.
just a thought... when the camco wheels fail (and they will), just swap out from the blue boy along with the blue boys bar. you already got the parts, might as well put them to good use.
I’ve been watching videos on these totes and found yours. The way you explained it I purchased the blue boy 42 as of yesterday. Now I found this video and wonder if I made the right decision. Do you think one is flatter then the other making it easier too store in the bed of the truck?
I have both the Barker and the camco and I switch back-and-forth, they both have their benefits but the Barker is definitely more durable and has much better wheels but I’d like some of the features on the camco, like the handle. Now that I converted my camco to a four wheel unit the race between the two is closer. The Barker is definitely a lower unit making easier to fill up store. I have made three videos on sewer totes I guess I’m a little obsessed with having the perfect tote. Larry
Thank you for this very informative video. We were convinced that the 28 Gal Camco Rhino with 4 wheels was the way to go. It works great, but they didn't take into consideration the way it mounts on the ladder. Because of the added wheels and handle it now mounts backwards from the original tote. The caps bang into the ladder. We can't get any response from them at all. Hopefully they are working on a solution. We put foam bumpers on the ladder to try to alleviate the problem, but it's still not great. Anyone else have this problem and a possible solution?
I'll soon be staying at a campground where its dump station is across the street at a marina. This will require leaving the park and driving about 1/8 mile down a 55 MPH highway to get there, so pulling the dump tank is not a good option. I checked and the 36-gallon Rhino tote easily fits sideways in the bed of my truck (with dump valve facing the rear). So I was thinking about using a Flojet RV waste pump (macerator pump) to pump my grey water up into the Rhino tote sitting in the bed of my truck (the macerator pump uses a regular garden hose). That way I'll be carrying the tote instead of pulling it. Emptying will be as simple as using my long 20' sewer hose from my camper. Seems like a good solution, what are your thoughts?
a lot of people have talked about using their waste tote exactly like this with the flojet macerator, Look in the comments of my last video where i compare the barker to the camco, look in the description of this video for the link. That is really the only way to dump if you have to get to a dump station where there is a highway in between. When we were in Algonquin park Ontario canada last summer, one the the parks had a situation just like this the dump station was over a mile down a 50mph highway. We had to be very careful about our water on a ten day stay, drycamping. Larry
We have had the Camco 36 gl with 2 wheels for about a year. Have never had an issue with the wheels and they're towed every weekend between 4 - 6 trips. Unfortunately, the tank sprung a bad leak today from one of the seams around the top valve. We've originally purchased 2 and the first had a drip from the same location, so we stopped using it about 6 months in. Time for a replacement, but was curious if anyone had experienced leaking with theirs. Maybe I should try the Barker?
That’s a bummer about the leak, the barkers are built much better, you may want to get a barker since you use it so much. Here is my camco vs barker video. th-cam.com/video/qNUaRX0vhmY/w-d-xo.html Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCentswish I had seen this before. We ended up getting a new 36gl Camco with 4 wheels. Prior to using it, be siliconed the seam we had issues with (not sure how else to describe it, but it's the bump around the top lid). Fingers crossed!
Great video as usual! I do have Alliance Paradigm 340RL that has 53 gallons black tank. I wish the tote have bigger tanks but it will be heavier! I believe you have about 35 gallons black tank and if you have 53 gallons black tank then which tote would you pick? How often would you go to the dump station? Thanks for the great videos!
We are at a campsite for two weeks in fl with no sewer connection. We have a 50 black and that will easily last the whole two weeks without draining with the tote. We have a 50 gal grey tank which can last a week with Alice showering in the Rv with me using the bathhouse for showers. I anticipate having to use the tote 3 to 4 times while we are here, it’s 28 gal so it drains about half our grey tank at a time. I use a water meter going into the Rv so I know when I’ve. Got 25 gal in the grey tank. I drain as I go instead of filling the grey then emptying. Using the tote is easy, and if you do it right you can stay very clean. I have never dumped the black tank into the tote, only grey. Hope that answers your questions, larry
I've had the 36 gallon Rhino tote for three years, tow it weekly 2/3 times per week 6 months a year. I recently upgraded my 36 gallon Rhino tote by adding the front wheel kit, and replacing the rear wheels in the way I saw on another channel - (th-cam.com/video/dKNEgA6RSTo/w-d-xo.html)Upgrading both the front and rear has been the best thing we could ever have done - I can now easily pull a full tank to my tow hitch and I'm not worried about wobbly wheels at the rear causing a horrible mess if they broke.
So far my stock axle is going strong, I reinforced the caps with screws so they wouldn’t come off. Larry And sorry, because of link, comment was in “held for review” folder Alice
Are you heading back to Killbear provided things open up? I haven’t been camping since I was a kid (at Killbear) and my wife and I are looking forward to taking our kids there this summer!
Yes. I read that. We are planning to quarantine at a relatives in Nova Scotia. It won’t be until at least June. A lot can happen by the time we are up there. We are aware of the constant changes
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John, I agree with you the Barker is a much sturdier product with excellent wheels. I really like the handle on the front of the Camco when i have to load it on my rack, there is just no where to grab the barker. I am using the Camco this summer in Canada but will Keep the barker and switch back and forth. Thank you for sharing your opinion . Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCents can see that ,all the portable tanks have their good points me onthe other Hand at 72 cannot pick up a full tank to move around, my tank is the 30 gallon, use our golf cart to move it ,we store the tank with cart ,my problem solved 😀, I've seen a couple of the camco tanks modified with better tires and wheels ,we mechanics are always at it 🤗🤭🤫
Great review. You're so detailed which I really appreciate. I'm really leaning toward the Camco for all the reasons you've mentioned in your comparison videos. But the fill hole is about 14" off the ground, and the measurement from ground to the bottom of my waste pipe is 12". So it's just a little up-hill. I'm not sure if that's going to present too much of a problem.
That is really no problem. As long at the tank itself is about the sewer tote. My sewer outlet is below the sewer tote inlet. See my other video about how i fill the tank and empty the hose so i dont spill any. Larry
I learned one thing.....NEVER buy a portable tank that has wheels with NO BEARINGS. My wife and I have the barker. I love that it has grease fittings and has pneumatic tires.
Own the Barker with camco accessories because a 42 gallon 4wheel is a requirement and camco wasn't even making tanks at the time. We like it but it has design shortfalls. If Camco made a 42 gallon with upgraded 4wheels we would switch.
Hey Robbie, yes that would be awesome if Camco made a larger version with upgraded wheels like the Barker. The Barker is solid but i love all the design features of the Camco, the handle at the top really helps me move the tank around. But like i mentioned in the video, if you need the large capacity, stick with the Barker. Larry
Gary, 😂 and we have made 3 about them 😂 I spent a lot of time cleaning bathrooms when we had a sticks and bricks. And as a mom of two? Well, poop has been my life for awhile 😂. But luckily, we don’t use our tote for black tank. So now Larry takes care of poo 😃 Alice
Bernie, the new kit has the clips. Do you have the clips on the back wheels too? If so, that’s great. It shows the company is listening to its consumers.
We only use our waste tote for grey water. Unfortunately, Grand Design didn’t include the bigger tanks until after 2017- the one we bought used. Now their tanks are double what we have. Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Quartzsite is miles and miles of open desert. There is a dump station close to the entrance ( LTVA South). You may go over rocks and washes etc so I fear that the plastic wheels could not handle it. There is at times, more than 1 million RVs in Quartzsite. Google for RVers that video that whole area.
Sorry but the camco RINO is junk!!! If you're in a campground with nice pavement it will last a little while but if you're somewhere like Quartzite "Gravel" it will destroy the wheels quickly! I already saw 2 of them DOA on the side of the road ripped open because the front wheels can't handle this. Get a masetator pump and fill it in the bed of your truck it will save you a lot of headaches. I will not be replacing mine the tires are all failing the plastic wheels are cracking I never tow it over 5 mph and it's only a few months old.
I agree the rhino wheels are not ready for a long trip, I also want to get a macerator so I can put the tank in the back of the truck for long dump station trips. So far I just drive really slow and I have not had any real failures so far. Larry
I just purchased the 28gal Camco Rhino and they have since fixed the wheel issue. They have redesigned the axel and the wheels are now secured with a snap ring instead of a metal cap. For anyone who was worried about the wheels still being an issue. I give props to Camco for listening to customers and fixing the issue.
💯 The listened and responded. Unfortunately, we still had the older model and had to fix the back wheels.
Thanks for the info
Glad I watched this update. You talked me out of the barker into the Rhino 32 gallon with wheels.
I place my sewer tote in the bed of the pickup. Use a portable RV waste pump 12volt. Use the pump the fill the tote as it will pump uphill. Then drive to the sewer dump and it will gravity feed empty from the pickup bed. Works especially well when boondocking and not near a waste dump.
Daniel, we have thought about getting a pump. So far, the only time we weren’t near a dump was when we quarantined for two weeks on a friends 100 acre farm. But we hope to boondock in the near future.
Thanks,
Alice
If close to dump not worth dealing with but when you boondock works great.
Great informative review. Direct and to the point without a long intro and self promotion/time wasters. Thanks and subscribed.
Thank you. We try to be thorough but concise.
And glad you found us
Camco Rhino mfg supplied plastic wheels BOTH broke at the spokes on 2nd dump trip in Quartzite AZ LTVA. Never went above 5 mph on the bumpy Quartzite dirt roads towing the shwagon. I replaced the junky plastic rear wheel kit with high quality air filled offroad tires with steel wheels and new allthread axle. Seeing that a front wheel kit is an option now I will pick one up [I hate lugging my shwagon to the hitch ball] and again upgrade to steel wheels to avoid the inevitable plastic wheel failure. Awesome review vid!
Sounds like you would be better off with a barker, the wheels and tires are awesome. Larry
Thanks for the review, I just returned the 28 gal camco for the 28 camco that comes with wheel kit.
@@davidfrazier1186 David, the wheel kit makes a big difference
Alice
Have watched your vids on both of your 'tank tests', the lifting part of the Rhino tank(s) was a major concern (74 years old now) and don't wanna mess up my back. Now that the wheel kit is an option you can add or buy installed from the factory, will for sure get the Rhino. Thanks for the thorough vids.
Silas, yes. Lifted it was impossible for me. And with Larry’s RA, it caused serious pain.
We are so glad we put on the 4 wheel kit,
Alice
Another Great episode!!!
Purchased a 28 gal Camco last fall and will use it for the first time in a couple weeks. Will keep you posted! Thx again! John
John, thanks. Definitely let us know how it goes,
Alice
UPDATE: Just spent the last 10 days with my 28 gal CAMCO. Very pleased and it worked great. I also purchased the rear bumper mount and it has been an excellent way to haul the unit. My bumper already additional brackets welded to the frame, but I will keep an eye on the joints as we travel more this year. Thx again for the wonderful review.
@@johndernberger1961 Good to hear the bumper bracket works well. And yes keep an eye on the welds- after our bumper broke, we are so glad we had it professionally welded with a tow receiver hitch.
Thank you for a super video. It really helped in deciding which waste tote to buy. I still chuckle about your filming the towing tests...it must have been a sight to see.
Glad we could help. We definitely got some looks - we did this at a state park campground 😁
Great video. I liked all of it especially the side-by-side video comparisons. We own the campco but didn’t know there was a front wheel kit. Thanks!!
Michelle, thanks. The 4 wheel kit is a game changer,
Alice
Another great video. I really like how you keep the comparison as close to Apple to Apple as you do. Keep up the videos.
Thanks JD, I get frustrated researching trying to compare when they are not apples to apples, I appreciate the encouragement. Larry
Thanks Larry, we will definitely get the camco 28 gallon tank when needed.
Stephen, the 4 wheels definitely help.
I have a 36 Camco Rhino and with two wheels and one failed after about 4 to 6 trips that were 4 football fields long. I replaced them real tires like the Barker has, now works vary good.
That is exactly why i added the cap screws to keep the wheels on. I am going to give those wheels a real test over the next six months or so to see if they can handle the long haul. I would be nice if Camco offered a version with barker like tires and wheels, or an upgrade kit to make it easy. Larry
Great video u 2! Alice you got your workout pulling the 2 totes and Larry got his "Surfing" in for the day 😂💕👍
😂 Yep. I had to prove I help out 😅. And Larry hasn’t been able to kite surf in a bit so this was as close as he got,
Alice
Great review and great fix for the wheel caps.
Thanks
To each his own. We use the 42 gal barker now for 5 yrs. Changed out the rubber tires account tubes were not holding up so we bought hard tires at Tractor Supply. We like the 42 gals account it takes less trips to the dump. One other thing I don't understand is people using the ladder to store thing in traveling. Ladders were not made to store things. They have come lose from the wall and its no fun being 8 ft off the ground and the ladder comes lose. As a RV Tech I don't promote using the ladder as a tote.
Such an awesome review series. Subscribed and liked!
Awesome. Thanks. We take our waste tote seriously 😁
The saga of the tote tanks continues...😂 I always look forward to watching your videos!
Hopefully, this is the last one 😂. But you never know,
Alice
Great video. I just purchased the 28 gallon 4 wheel rhino and used it on our last trip. I really like it but I do agree that the wheels are its weakest link. The campground we stay at the most is all gravel roads and the wheels (front) seemed to do allot of skipping on the rocks. We towed it with a electric golf cart and I was able to see the wheels while transporting. I also noticed that after only a few trips the rubber on the wheels had allot of wear to them from the rocks. I may look into replacing the wheels with pneumatic wheels when these wear out.
Charles, thanks. We are thinking about replacing the wheels if we see a problem. We thought about taking the ones of the Barker.
But I don’t think anyone wants to see yet another waste tote video from us 😂
We would love to hear how your wheel replacement goes,
Alice
Question: I just got my cart and was thinking I might get the wheel kit to move the tank to the truck, but then use the other bracket and only the rear wheels on the ground. Seems like it would travel better. So, 1) can you do this or 2) maybe it travels just fine on all four (those front small wheels on a dirt road was my concern). Thanks!
I have one and have used just about all of them but i have switched to rino 36gal. Leave it in the truck and use a macearater pump for dumping it is the best way i have found to do the job in 33 years of rving
I also have a small pump to be able to put the tote in the back of the truck for long trips to the dump station. Ours is not a macerator pump but we only use it for grey water. I think I will invest in a portable compact macerator pump at some point for those long dump station trips. We have teh 28 gallon rhino, the 36 is just too big to manage. Thanks for sharing . Larry
I’m imagining the conversation trying to convince Alice to pull the two totes down the road....! BTW - love the thumbnail with Larry blue boy surfing!
Hey, anything for the content 😂. 😉
Another great video, very informative. We are schedule to get our first RV in June 🤞.Larry I just learned you know my brother in law Rawel.
That’s funny Rawel and I have been buds for years, so Eyla is your Sister? They are an awesome family, trying to get Rawel to join the Mobile Life. Good luck on the new RV, call anytime if you wan to talk RVs, Rawel has my number. Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCents Yes! That's my sister. I got your info from Rawel. We are excited to get the adventures started. Let's hope out Rockwood doesn't get delayed again. We were scheduled to get it in March however with all the issues the RV industry is having it was pushed back to June.
Love the way you guys have informational videos along with the regular style also.
Kathy, thanks. We try to mix it up. Larry likes DIY. I like the fun stuff. That’s why we are such a great team
Alice
I bought the rhino. I don't need 4 more tires to air up. Now all I need is a Hensley hookup.
I never have put air in the barker tires, even after a year they were firm. If I had a TT I would get the Hensley. I had an equalizer when we had a TT and it wasn’t that great. Larry
We bought the Rhino also. Incidentally, we pull our GD 2400BH camper with the Hensley ProPride 3P hitch. Amazing difference from our Equalizer E4 hitch. The ability to easily adjust the weight distribution for different trailer loading is great too. Absolutely eliminates all sway. I don't see myself ever pulling another travel trailer without the 3P.
Thx DMC for an informative and entertaining product review video . FWIW have used a Barker 42gal blue tote for 3 yrs with our 40' TH. We do alot of boon docking somdraggingnthe full totemis a work out. I've found leaving tote in truck bed and using macerator waste pump to fill was easier on my degenersting back (fused vertebrae) The camco has a neat drain feature but looks like it has childs toy wheels in comparison to Barker's. I have been long time Camco consumer and advocate but for my application I'll stay blue. I hope iTHE Camco holds up for your use @ least you've got the Barker for a back up. Happy Camping and stay healthy.
I agree the wheels on the camco do look like a child’s toy thing. One of the reasons I switched back to the camco is I wanted to see if the wheels would hold up on long pulls. I have looked at the macerator as an option, but so far we have not needed it. A campground host a ran into at the dump station showed me his tank and Maserator rig, it was pretty cool, no lifting or towing. Larry
Great review; no one out there has done this in depth review. Our 28 gallon Camco came with the new wheel caps: No need to do anything;
Yes, Camco finally got around to putting c clips on the wheels instead of those terrible press on caps. Good luck with your Camco. Larry
So thorough, I was so impressed!! Great job on this!
Wow. Thank you. Larry works really hard on videos like this.
Alice
Larry another great informative video👏🏼 Alice I thought for a minute there you were in a “Turd tank race”🤣🤣🤪. Love y’all’s videos!!!!
😂🤣 Turd Tank Race- I would lose. Lisa, you crack me up. Thanks for another great visit,
Alice
Turd tank race? That’s called “the runs”!
@@01AceAlpha 🤣😂 best comment ever
Thanks Larry and Alice.
Doug, we are always trying to find ways to make camping better and then share it,
Alice
Wade Bell here - I met you at Fort Clinch while you were recording. My wife is Pam Bell (Pam Bell Photography Inc,) Looking forward to following you and your adventures. All The Best - Wade
Wade, wow. That was fast 😂. Great meeting you both. Next time we are in town, we are going to ask for some insiders tips of Amelia,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents let us know when you come back to Amelia! W’d love to show off our island! 😎👍🏻
Definitely. I just hope we can get a reservation again 😅 Tell Pam I am loving her photos on Facebook,
Alice
The wheel kit actually puts the price right in line with the Barker too. I ordered the Camco and the wheel kit is on it's way.
I’m been using mine for a few months and taken on some rough roads. It’s been great so far.
Good review Larry. Just purchased the Rhino 28 yesterday and from your review I think that was the best choice for me. In a private small rv park I found a Rhino 36 sitting in the field. The tank looked good but the hubs on those plastic wheels on the rear were shot. The dump station was about 2 miles of paved steep hills. I’m sure they drug that thing to fast and melted the plastic wheels. So that’s why I ordered the 28 thinking of all that friction on plastic wheels.
My current location, the dump is only 100 yds away so I’m hoping the two wheel will suffice, but just incase of wheel failure I also purchased a macerator and could fill the tank while sitting on the bed of the truck.
I think the rhino will do fine on short hauls like yours, the 28 gallon is the perfect size for us. I would like to get the macerator pump so i could put the tank on the truck for when we have to go a very long distance to dump the tote. Larry.
Hey, Larry! 1) Are you planning a follow up video as to rhino's capabilities?
2) Have you considered changing out the axle with a longer one, then putting a washer & carter pin as a retainer?
Nathan, sorry for late response.
I am going to do a follow up - probably after we get back from Canada. My fix right now seems to be working
Thanks for this informational video, I have the Camco 28 gal and will definitely be adding the wheel kit and the lock screws to the wheels.
Dale, let us know how it goes
Keep doing what and how your doing your videos.
IMHO your very thorough in your explanation. I thought your tests were fair my only question is, can I get away with just using the 28 gallon Camco seems easier on one’s body !
Great work 👍🏻
yes you can definitely get away with the 28 gal which is what we have. we can dump about half of our 50 gal grey tank at a time, it fills it up but is still easy to move around with the 4 wheel kit. Larry
I have the rhino. And the upgraded wheels for the 36 gallon. I think it’s great
Don’t camp but the thumbnail got me. Very good review
🤣 Yeah, Larry wanted to have some fun since waste totes are NOT fun 😉
Alice
I agree 100% on the 4 wheels. I have the 36gal Camco and it will for sure break your back after a few loads. I agree with changing that to a pin on the Camco so you can remove the bar. I would do the same thing. Would be nice if they made the bar a little longer just for more ease. That Camco bar can be doubled for personal security if there is any issues. lol Do the screws have any rubber seals on them to prevent leaks? That would be nice. So far we really like ours when we use it. I think you made the right choice. Mostly cause it's the same choice I made. lol Great video. I will be ordering that kit.
That is so funny about the Tow Bar being Defensive Weapon in an emergency. The screws do not go through the plastic, the metal inserts are molded into the plastic water tight. We will see if I made the right choice, I will do my best to see if I can torture the tote on those Canadian roads this summer. Lar
You can upgrade the wheels on the camco rhino.
Buy a longer axle and 10+ inch pnuematic wheels (Amazon carries 2 packs for about $30. Harbor Freight about $10 each or $15 each for 13 inch).
Optionally you could upgrade the front wheels also.
These videos are excellent. Have you done any testing over rock or gravel roads?
Larry attached it to an e-bike and went down the road just outside of Frisco campground in the Outer Banks - pretty bumpy 😁
Gravel road no problem, too
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Thanks. In the places I camp I’m thinking my best solution might be to use a macerator to fill a waste tote while it’s in the bed of the pickup.
Great video. I think I would stick to the Camco Rhino. For now. I remember you doing the video on them both last year. I like the Rhino for now it holds a lot more it looks like. Thank you so much for doing the test on them both. Thank you fir a great job on the video too! Cs t wait till the next one. See you next week. Stay safe.
Sherri, we are going to keep using the Rhino and see how the new wheels work. I hope we don’t do anymore waste tote videos 😂
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Oh ok good! Let me know if the knee set if wheels works. Thank you Alice!
Now comes with a pin on the tow bar instead of the bolt. Good video!
They must have seen my video, HaHa. Larry
Fabulous video... We could really use one... Thanks for the share! 👍👍👍👍👍😁
Marilyn, thanks. We have another video Larry showing how he uses it,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Thank you! 👍😁
I've learned far too much about Sewer Totes. Thanks for doing the dirty work. Stay Calm and RV On. Harry & Cathy
Harry, we know way too much too 😂 I’m glad Larry does the dirty work, too. You take care, too,
Alice
So far I haven't needed a tote. In a few years that may change when I can camp for much longer periods of time. Good info.
That makes sense. We don’t need ours unless we go over about 10 days or if there is no bath house for Larry to shower in. I only use our shower, but do Navy showers and skip a day here or there,
Alice
Great update video, you've really been knocking it out of the park with your latest videos 👍. Just ordered components for my solar setup on the Winnebago project. I decided on a 24-volt system. What voltage did you go with?
Thanks Brian, we are trying to get better. I have 24 volt panels, wire in parallel to a combiner box. The battery system is 12 volts, 4 battle born batteries in parallel. I am going to do my solar system overview soon. Call me if you want to talk about solar, inverters etc. Lar
Oh, my. What on earth did you eat to be able to fill both of them for the demonstration? That's genuine dedication! All kidding aside, thanks for the comparison!
😂 Only water. No one asked that. Pretty funny.
I've had my barker for5 years NO ISSUE'S, HAVE sold them for YEARS, retired out of RV business, mechanic, owner of shop
I actually do love the barker tote, The big problems I had were, I needed a handle to lift it onto my mike rack for traveling, there is nothing to grab onto with the barker, plus it was so hard to get it completely empty. I’m worried about the camco wheels holding up, which is why I am keeping the barker, just in case. Larry
The Camco Rhino tote tank now comes equipped with the same C-clip retainers as the front wheel kit so there's no need to do the pressure cap modification.
We had an older one that did not. It’s great they listened to their customers and fixed this issue.
nice video,, when I purchase the camco I'll do it with your link. Great Job !!! and thank you.
Bill, thanks. Every bit helps,
Alice
I have the Camco rhino 28 gallon and purchased the wheel kit. I hung it on my ladder. Within a few trips the hook and bracket started bending. It needs to be beefed up.
Keep an eye on the way the ladder is attached to the rv, make sure the screws are not loosening, you should be fine, but inspect often. Larry
Hi! Love your video… but still undecided between the Barker and the Camco. 🤔 We have a Class A RV and the grey and black water tanks are quite big (53 and 38 gallons). Next winter, based on campground reservations, we will be walking to the dump stations, so easiness to roll the 4 wheel is an issue. Any advice? Thx.
Check out this video
th-cam.com/video/qNUaRX0vhmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4ikw4-5FToijYujN
After your last video, I bought the Rhino. I'm setting up today to boondock 2 weeks in Montana. We shall see if it's as good as what I hope.
John, did you buy the 4 wheel version? Let us know how it goes,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents nope, just the 2 wheel for me. May upgrade later though.
@@winginitwithjohn8451 Larry with his RA hated the two wheel. He loves the upgrade.
just a thought... when the camco wheels fail (and they will), just swap out from the blue boy along with the blue boys bar. you already got the parts, might as well put them to good use.
Larry is waiting for the wheels to fail so he can do is “Larryize” it.
How about a dually blue boy 😁
You said you were from Deland. Did you know Ralph from Ralph’s Feed Store or from when he worked at Tucker’s?
We lived in DeLand, FL for 23 years. But we don’t recognize those stores. Sorry
I’ve been watching videos on these totes and found yours. The way you explained it I purchased the blue boy 42 as of yesterday. Now I found this video and wonder if I made the right decision. Do you think one is flatter then the other making it easier too store in the bed of the truck?
I have both the Barker and the camco and I switch back-and-forth, they both have their benefits but the Barker is definitely more durable and has much better wheels but I’d like some of the features on the camco, like the handle. Now that I converted my camco to a four wheel unit the race between the two is closer. The Barker is definitely a lower unit making easier to fill up store. I have made three videos on sewer totes I guess I’m a little obsessed with having the perfect tote. Larry
Great video guy's.
Robert, thanks. The wheel kit has already made it easier,
Alice
Thank you for this very informative video. We were convinced that the 28 Gal Camco Rhino with 4 wheels was the way to go. It works great, but they didn't take into consideration the way it mounts on the ladder. Because of the added wheels and handle it now mounts backwards from the original tote. The caps bang into the ladder. We can't get any response from them at all. Hopefully they are working on a solution. We put foam bumpers on the ladder to try to alleviate the problem, but it's still not great. Anyone else have this problem and a possible solution?
Wow. Sorry to hear that. Hope you find a solution- we use pool noodles for anything needing cushion
I'll soon be staying at a campground where its dump station is across the street at a marina. This will require leaving the park and driving about 1/8 mile down a 55 MPH highway to get there, so pulling the dump tank is not a good option. I checked and the 36-gallon Rhino tote easily fits sideways in the bed of my truck (with dump valve facing the rear). So I was thinking about using a Flojet RV waste pump (macerator pump) to pump my grey water up into the Rhino tote sitting in the bed of my truck (the macerator pump uses a regular garden hose). That way I'll be carrying the tote instead of pulling it. Emptying will be as simple as using my long 20' sewer hose from my camper. Seems like a good solution, what are your thoughts?
a lot of people have talked about using their waste tote exactly like this with the flojet macerator, Look in the comments of my last video where i compare the barker to the camco, look in the description of this video for the link. That is really the only way to dump if you have to get to a dump station where there is a highway in between. When we were in Algonquin park Ontario canada last summer, one the the parks had a situation just like this the dump station was over a mile down a 50mph highway. We had to be very careful about our water on a ten day stay, drycamping. Larry
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Bret, thanks. Larry is always trying to find ways to help fellow RVers,
Alice
Sewer tote surfing for the next Olympic games!
Dan, 😁 I’d watch that
Alice
THANKYOU LARRY!!! I'm looking at getting a new one and Your Review is right on time!
Nathan, always glad to hear we have helped. Thanks
Fun video Larry!! It’s a crappy job.. but real Men gotta do it!! :-)
Darisan, sorry. Someone beat you to the “crappy” joke 😂
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Marines have been accused of a lot of things... but being quick on the uptake is not one of them!!
😂
Could you put pneumatic tires on the rhino? I think I would go with volume to make less trips.
Many people have commented that they put pneumatic tires on.
As for volume? It’s so heavy as it is
We have had the Camco 36 gl with 2 wheels for about a year. Have never had an issue with the wheels and they're towed every weekend between 4 - 6 trips. Unfortunately, the tank sprung a bad leak today from one of the seams around the top valve. We've originally purchased 2 and the first had a drip from the same location, so we stopped using it about 6 months in. Time for a replacement, but was curious if anyone had experienced leaking with theirs. Maybe I should try the Barker?
That’s a bummer about the leak, the barkers are built much better, you may want to get a barker since you use it so much.
Here is my camco vs barker video.
th-cam.com/video/qNUaRX0vhmY/w-d-xo.html
Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCentswish I had seen this before. We ended up getting a new 36gl Camco with 4 wheels. Prior to using it, be siliconed the seam we had issues with (not sure how else to describe it, but it's the bump around the top lid). Fingers crossed!
Great video as usual! I do have Alliance Paradigm 340RL that has 53 gallons black tank. I wish the tote have bigger tanks but it will be heavier! I believe you have about 35 gallons black tank and if you have 53 gallons black tank then which tote would you pick? How often would you go to the dump station? Thanks for the great videos!
We are at a campsite for two weeks in fl with no sewer connection. We have a 50 black and that will easily last the whole two weeks without draining with the tote. We have a 50 gal grey tank which can last a week with Alice showering in the Rv with me using the bathhouse for showers. I anticipate having to use the tote 3 to 4 times while we are here, it’s 28 gal so it drains about half our grey tank at a time. I use a water meter going into the Rv so I know when I’ve. Got 25 gal in the grey tank. I drain as I go instead of filling the grey then emptying. Using the tote is easy, and if you do it right you can stay very clean. I have never dumped the black tank into the tote, only grey. Hope that answers your questions, larry
@@DownsizingMakesCents Many thanks! It makes a lot of sense! I will try your methods. Thanks again!
I've had the 36 gallon Rhino tote for three years, tow it weekly 2/3 times per week 6 months a year. I recently upgraded my 36 gallon Rhino tote by adding the front wheel kit, and replacing the rear wheels in the way I saw on another channel - (th-cam.com/video/dKNEgA6RSTo/w-d-xo.html)Upgrading both the front and rear has been the best thing we could ever have done - I can now easily pull a full tank to my tow hitch and I'm not worried about wobbly wheels at the rear causing a horrible mess if they broke.
So far my stock axle is going strong, I reinforced the caps with screws so they wouldn’t come off. Larry
And sorry, because of link, comment was in “held for review” folder
Alice
Are you heading back to Killbear provided things open up?
I haven’t been camping since I was a kid (at Killbear) and my wife and I are looking forward to taking our kids there this summer!
We would love to go to Killbear again. We shall see. Headed to Nova Scotia first July 1st
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents
Excellent, be well!
Thanks. Same to you
@@DownsizingMakesCents
Our government just announced they are extending border restrictions until July 21.
@@01AceAlpha that’s for US citizens. Larry has dual citizenship. But thanks for update
Just curious if you have made backup plans for when you still can't get into Canada this summer?
Jeff, Larry has dual citizenship and we are constantly checking the rules. We see no problem so far. But we do have back up plans. Thanks.
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents It's full lock down presently in Ontario. Just an FYI
Yes. I read that. We are planning to quarantine at a relatives in Nova Scotia. It won’t be until at least June. A lot can happen by the time we are up there. We are aware of the constant changes
can you put the large wheels from the Barker on to the Rhino?
Yes but you would need new axle and caps.
There are videos about that conversion
Just picked up a 36 gallon with the wheel kit. It's less than a 1/8 mile to the dump station. Hopefully the plastic wheels work.
Bruce, that distance is definitely walkable. Some campgrounds it just makes sense to walk it.
Let us know how it goes,
Alice
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John, I agree with you the Barker is a much sturdier product with excellent wheels. I really like the handle on the front of the Camco when i have to load it on my rack, there is just no where to grab the barker. I am using the Camco this summer in Canada but will Keep the barker and switch back and forth. Thank you for sharing your opinion . Larry
@@DownsizingMakesCents can see that ,all the portable tanks have their good points me onthe other Hand at 72 cannot pick up a full tank to move around, my tank is the 30 gallon, use our golf cart to move it ,we store the tank with cart ,my problem solved 😀, I've seen a couple of the camco tanks modified with better tires and wheels ,we mechanics are always at it 🤗🤭🤫
My gray tanks are 40 gallons ea so the barker works great as can empty with one trip each
That’s convenient, you don’t have to worry about over filling, which can cause a mess. Larry
Great review. You're so detailed which I really appreciate. I'm really leaning toward the Camco for all the reasons you've mentioned in your comparison videos. But the fill hole is about 14" off the ground, and the measurement from ground to the bottom of my waste pipe is 12". So it's just a little up-hill. I'm not sure if that's going to present too much of a problem.
That is really no problem. As long at the tank itself is about the sewer tote. My sewer outlet is below the sewer tote inlet. See my other video about how i fill the tank and empty the hose so i dont spill any. Larry
I learned one thing.....NEVER buy a portable tank that has wheels with NO BEARINGS. My wife and I have the barker. I love that it has grease fittings and has pneumatic tires.
The camco rhino has bearings on the front and rear wheels, but the ones on the barker are better. Larry
Own the Barker with camco accessories because a 42 gallon 4wheel is a requirement and camco wasn't even making tanks at the time. We like it but it has design shortfalls. If Camco made a 42 gallon with upgraded 4wheels we would switch.
Hey Robbie, yes that would be awesome if Camco made a larger version with upgraded wheels like the Barker. The Barker is solid but i love all the design features of the Camco, the handle at the top really helps me move the tank around. But like i mentioned in the video, if you need the large capacity, stick with the Barker. Larry
What are the tank capacities on your rig?
Rosa, we have 53 fresh. 50 black. 50 grey. Grand Design went to 100 on grey and fresh on the model right after ours, which is a 2017,
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents - that's impressive tank sizes. Thanks for the informative video
Did you ever think that your life would some day end up making video of a portable sewer tank ?
Gary, 😂 and we have made 3 about them 😂 I spent a lot of time cleaning bathrooms when we had a sticks and bricks. And as a mom of two? Well, poop has been my life for awhile 😂. But luckily, we don’t use our tote for black tank. So now Larry takes care of poo 😃
Alice
My new camco tote has the c clips already installed. They must have modified it.
Bernie, the new kit has the clips. Do you have the clips on the back wheels too? If so, that’s great. It shows the company is listening to its consumers.
@@DownsizingMakesCents Yes. Clips front and rear.
Awesome
That was a crappy video 🤣 Get it 🤣 Good info delivered in a professional manner. Thanks.
🤣 I was about to block you for being mean 😂. Thanks. This is definitely Larry’s wheelhouse.
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents I enjoy Larry's professionalism even on this topic !
IMO, you guys would be much much much better with one of those 100gal agricultural bladders and a macerator
great job on the review BTW, great production value as always
We only use our waste tote for grey water. Unfortunately, Grand Design didn’t include the bigger tanks until after 2017- the one we bought used. Now their tanks are double what we have.
Alice
Thanks. Larry works really hard to be thorough and clear
A good tote is one with a full gauge. Lol. 🤪
A true test is to run them in Quartzsite AZ where you are not on smooth pavement.
I bet. We have never been there. Is there a dump station? How close?
Alice
@@DownsizingMakesCents Quartzsite is miles and miles of open desert. There is a dump station close to the entrance ( LTVA South). You may go over rocks and washes etc so I fear that the plastic wheels could not handle it. There is at times, more than 1 million RVs in Quartzsite. Google for RVers that video that whole area.
@@ZeebNinja I have seen videos about it and know friends that have gone. I don’t see a Rhino being used there.
I guess backing the truck up closer to the tank was not an option. 🤔
yes, most of the time I cant get my dually close to the tote, the extra wheels help pull it close. Larry
Sorry but the camco RINO is junk!!! If you're in a campground with nice pavement it will last a little while but if you're somewhere like Quartzite "Gravel" it will destroy the wheels quickly! I already saw 2 of them DOA on the side of the road ripped open because the front wheels can't handle this. Get a masetator pump and fill it in the bed of your truck it will save you a lot of headaches. I will not be replacing mine the tires are all failing the plastic wheels are cracking I never tow it over 5 mph and it's only a few months old.
I agree the rhino wheels are not ready for a long trip, I also want to get a macerator so I can put the tank in the back of the truck for long dump station trips. So far I just drive really slow and I have not had any real failures so far. Larry
Oh no, please not another RV channel doing a poop product review.
Richard, this is more to do with the 4 wheel mod on the Rhino and how Larry made changes himself to make it even better.