Decision day for the Volvo 140: sell or keep?? and some help from
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Doing some work on the Volvo 140 and Gunner works on shining it up!
#shopwork
#volvoce
#newinjector
#140excavator
#decisions
Curt and the team over there at area diesel service are awesome for sure
Highly recommend!!
Agree
@@DirtPerfect man what’s the deal with the red and white skid steer 😂😂
You forgot to take the rags out
Followed them with the backhoe pump. Yes they are topnotch.
Thanks everyone! We appreciate the kind words!
Love how Gunner helps in his own way that he is capable of doing.....he is learning more than he really realizes...great job dad
yeah but when gunner become older to work and drive them machines them machines probably be battery power by then
You remind me of how my dad taught me growing up. He was a carpenter, electrician, plumber, framer, roofer and a licensed asbestos remover. I went to work with my dad every day before I started school. Then after I started school he would leave the job site pick me up from school and take me back with him to work. Every summer, weekend we were working together. He taught me well. He’s gone now. He died in January of this year. I miss him more than words can explain. Keep it up Mike that young man is learning not only the trade but what it means to be a man and father. He will cherish these memories the rest of his life! God bless you my friend. By the way leave Gunner alone. My granddad said I ask more questions than a Philadelphia lawyer. Whatever that meant. He said I asked too many **mn questions.
Sorry for your loss Sir, lost my Dad a couple of years ago. I miss him every day. I pray for Gods blessings on us.
@@randyadams7269 thank you. The loss of my dad is the greatest loss I’ve ever felt in my fifty years of living. We were super close. He was always there when I needed him. No matter the time, place or circumstance I absolutely knew he had my six. He was the single greatest influence on me in this world. When I needed a reality check he was there to point me in the right direction. When I succeeded he was the first to celebrate my success. I had confidence he would tell me the truth no matter what. I pray God bless and comfort you as well.
Boy it's a whole lot easier changing injectors on the 120 than on the 140. I've got to say Gunner is going to be a well educated asset to the business as long as he keeps helping like he does. Another great video Mike, Stay safe.
Yes it is
in 10-15 years them machines probably be battery power so all the stuff he learns about diesel wouldn't help him just saying
The Cameraman behind the Installation of the New Injectors did an Outstanding Job. That Man Deserves a Raise $$$. Appreciate you having us along, catch you on the next one. Keep It Safe Out There Fella’s
That there loading shot at the start onto the lowboy was just doggone dirt perfect! 🤣🤣 another workshop day passed without incident and nice to see Gunnar out helping with the work, Thanks for sharing as always
Thanks buddy
Great to see your son helping you. Have to respect the man who works on his own equipment, must have done something right because it fired right up. Another Awesome Video
A little dirt in my coffee this morning is always a good thing...
Even a maintenance video is very interesting...
Great video... Good job guys...
😎👍Big thumbs up...
And since it is 9/11 a big shout out to all first responders, and thanks for your service...
And may we never forget those that gave all on this date!!!
Challenge answer: tightened and torqued the injector hold downs before seating the side feed tubes.
Edit: Seated the feed tubes with the wrench. Perhaps they should be pushed to seat and THEN tightened?
I would think you should seat the injectors, loose the retainer, install the feed tube to a certain seating torque and back off, torque the injector hold down and then torque the feed tube.
Incorrect
Tell Aaron I said hello. Glad to see him back to lift your rating up! Always a hoot when you two are together ❤️
Mike you got to use your little helper more often! He's a mechanic in the making. Great father and son video! 👍🤠
I have owned and ran older Volvo equipment. In general I was satisfied with those machines. I have owned two Volvo trucks with DF and all those emissions on them. They both where money pits. The one only had 16000 miles on it when I bought it at one year old. They had to replace two sets of injectors under warranty and I had to do another set out of warranty. That was around $4k. Then I had to replace several of the emission components at a cost of over $10K. The final straw was the engine developed a internal water leak and they thought it was a cylinder head which would have cost me around $10K. I sold the truck As-is for $35K with only 185,000 miles on it. I had given $85K for it when it was one year old. So you take the repairs and depreciation my total cost of ownership was over $64K for only 175,000 miles. That works out to around 37 cents per mile without any fuel or tire cost. So any piece of early emission systems from Volvo I would never own again. After 2019 they are supposed to have worked it out but I am not going to try one to find out.
Gunner reminds me when I was his age and went to the workshop of my dad getting my hands dirty. It is where I learned to be a mechanic, long before I went to school.
For the sale of the Volvo, you really like the 120 more and you need a bigger machine next to it. With the resale value of the Volvo you can make that step up. I think it is a good decision.
I love when you guys get your kids involved.To them they think they are just hanging out with dad.But in reality they are learning at the same time.
2nd comment bc I wanted to guess about what you did different. The last 2 you didn’t check down in the injector hole before you put it in , but earlier you did a quick check in all 4. You didn’t however check the end of number 4 after removing from packaging to make sure it had a washer or was clean. Just out the pack and in it went. Anyway that’s the difference I saw from the first 2
Remember watching the video on Mrs DP channel. I was thinking you were going to sell when you detailed the inside. I mean even the windows were clean. I’ve see the Volvo in probably 25 or more videos and the windows were always dirty. Kinda sorry to see it go but glad also because it means something bigger might be it’s replacement.
The Volvos are really very good machines, reliable and efficient. A 140 is light but quite useful, it all depends on the type of work you do.
Agree
Gunner makes a better helper. Great job of Working with him dad this is where he will learn everything there is that you know passing along that wisdom is priceless have a great day guys glad I finally got to see the videos you told me about from the pontoon
Awesome watching Gunner showing interest. Telling how it is too. Good luck in what ever it is you decide.
hi dp it good to see father and son working together and teaching thing
Another great video of you working with Gunner! I can remember getting in my fathers way all the time, when I was Gunners age. LOL Sure wish I had him around to ask questions to now. It's only a guess, but I don't think you checked all the ports for O-rings that might have got left from the old injectors. I know you looked at 3, I think, but don't remember seeing you check the #4. 👍
Putting the hood back on
Gunner reminds me of me, just 65 years ago! Dad had a contract machine shop, that was my day care spot. I was operating a South Bend lathe, alone, when I was 8 years old.
Got a felling dropping the injector wasn’t good almost sounded like the O ring was missing, but I’ve never done a set myself, great job Mike and Gunner 👍
Outstanding opening with the camera on the bucket!
In regards to keep or sell;
The machine is paid off and is not a financial liability but an asset it might be worthy to keep around especially if you plan on growing with more work.
God forbid you have a breakdown with one of the other machines it reduces the stress and improves the quality of service which definitely appears to have a sentinel bearing on "Honor".
If you need it for a down payment on another machine then obviously it's your call because you understand your finances. Would Mrs DP be able to help with this decision?
If a machine breaks down while we're working at our own home it can be aggravating but somewhat of a lesser bearing on importance with the time delay as compared to working for a client because of the important personal values you place upon yourself and your team providing a professional quality service.
Having this moral integrity establishes confidence between you and your clients which also builds a character often overlooked by some and yet ultimately creates a dignified and honorable reputation.
If it were me I would keep the machine if I could afford it and maybe have Gunner start her up to exercise her every now and then.
Don't mean to be verbose but I think that's part of the reason why folks enjoy the show. It's not just for the expertise and the learning but that you come from a place of honor and respect which is earned (and can be easily lost).
Many contractors seem to know the difference between right and wrong and lack that moral compass to stay on the right side of things.
Yours is not just about right or wrong but coming from a moral high ground of Honor where the lack of it can bring shame.,.
Hope this makes sense....
Thanks bunches DP! Stay the course and as always, may God continue to abundantly bless you, your family, Associates and other hard-working members of society keeping the gears turning forward
You missed the O-ring !!
Should have turned the engine over 360 deg to clear the cylinders of fuel and oil before cranking
Yes
So he was suppose to pull the motor and spin it around one full turn. Reinstall the motor then start it?
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Joking lol sorry I read you comment and couldn't keep my troll for showing its head.
360 isn’t enough. You need 2 full turns to get all 4 cylinders through an exhaust stroke. 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly. If you don't clear the cylinders it will hydro-lock causing significant damage.
Common rail systems tend to drain all their fuel down the holes as soon as the o-ring unseats. It is also recommended to do an oil change after to make sure there is no fuel in oil.🤙
That reminds me of helping my Dad great video Mike and Gunner
Nice clean up Gunner with that power washer!! and thanks for filling in for MBTS, he needs all the help he can get🤪 Bye bye 140, making room for the big boys💪👍🇺🇸
Don’t know if anyone else saw it and replied but it looked to me you didn’t check for the injectors washers were down n the head on the last two injectors at apx 21:00 and apx 22:01. That said I would of checked all 4 holes before I inserted the first injector into the hole. Just a FYI it is a bad practice to “double click” your torque wrench when tightening fasteners. It was a bad habit that I did for years and honestly probably doesn’t matter when torquing fasteners in foot pounds but when tightening fasteners in inches pounds that second click can mean you have over tightened that fastener by several inch pounds which can result in a bad day removing a broken fastener or installing a tread insert or filling the stripped hole with filler rod and drilling and tapping a new hole or worse yet having to eat the expense of buying a replacement widget because a tread insert or welding the hole shut and drilling and tapping a new hole was not an option.
Volvo has contracts with Deutz to provide engines 7 liter and smaller, under lime green Volvo industrial paint, and its name on the valve cover.
Even though Agco, at the time they bought both Valtra and Fendt, had sworn Fendt would maintain a German engine, has introduced their new 700 series with an AgcoPower (Formerly Valtra, Sisu) engine because users were dissatisfied with, especially the twin turbo Deutz engine in 250-280hp trim.
So, i wouldnt hesitate one bit to kick out the 140 with the 4 cylinder version of that Deutz engine family, because that wasnt their finest hour.
i would have much more faith in the QSB4.5 in the Hyundai, because it is seriously beefed up over the 3.9/5.9 liter generation.
Also, the other day i didnt quite get how you got to the fuel consumption vs capacity comparison: You measured the fuel burn in an 8 hour work day, while comparing the number of minutes it took to load Bubba Dump ? i mean if you compared the fuel burn per 8 hour, to the number of Bubba Dumps loaded in that 8 hour period, it would be a fair comparison. Because when the ground is hard, the Volvo would be scratching and the Hyundai would be just scooping... The harder the ground, the more efficient a bigger machine gets. (that means: Get Lt. Dan ready this winter, and compare again next spring when the 210 is continously loading both trucks without a break ! I bet the 210 will have a more profitable bottom line in yards per hour if you factor in operator wages when it keeps two trucks moving !)
(19:15) Great coaching. I especially like how you sneak-in "go fast" to further motivate Gunner the future quarter midget car driver. I mean racer.
Great job on the repair. Glad that you are keeping the 120 over the 140. The 120 will compliment your fleet whether you keep the 210 or go with something of similar size.
For the question, and I am sure that many have spotted it as well before me, I didn't see you clear the cylinders of any liquids before installing the injectors. Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy watching your projects.
Goodbye 140. Gunner is a real good helper. Interesting future upcoming I'd say.
Knew it would go. I have no chance of finding your error. Your teaching me. You nailed it. and sold it. Like you thinking. A good job done Gunner. you helped selling it. Nice and clean
Great seeing Gunner learning and to hear he is a chatterbox of camera
Probably not the first but the way I was taught you put the feed tubes in place before you torque the injectors down to avoid misalignment and leaks.
Challenge question: When you went to install the 2nd injector, you made contact with the sensitive tip of the injector hitting something on the engine head and you installed the injector without first inspecting the tip to verify it didn't get damaged or plugged by debris when it made contact with the engine.
I knew the 140 was short for this world. You never seemed really totally warm up to it. And as I said before, I’m guessing the 210 has already been added to the stable. I guess we’ll have to wait for the video to find out for sure!
Gunner in the shop warms my heart! These are the moments that really count as a parent. Thanks for sharing DP!
"Get the hood assembly out of the way, looks like we need ..." "torch?"
You didnot check for the small washer in the last two fuel injector holes
I’m guessing since the 210 has DP stickers all over it now, it’s clear what your choice is/was to replace the 140.
Yes it burns more fuel and on some jobs the 120 or 140 are more economical to run but you’re definitely getting into bigger jobs and you can’t beat a bigger machine to move more dirt when you got a Bubba Dump to work with it.
Had to mention I just watched Area Deisel and you really did send it to experts! When I need help I'll send them from New Hampshire to them for sure!
Yup they are for sure
Well considering NYA was factoring in the 210 for moving dirt in 2023, I'm not sure. But this would all come down to the direction you want to run your business. The Volvo has caused you some problems, but made you money. I'm sure you have given this many hours of deep thinking. No matter what decision you make you will be successful because you have the drive to go forward. Great video, keep them coming. If you keep the Hyundai or buy a different machine I know you will give it plenty of scenarios before you invest. The 140 was a thorn in your side, maybe the next will be better. Just remember the 120 will always be there to save the day.
I was a Volvo MACK mechanic for many years and with these new engines meaning 2013 and newer. Injectors have a very high failure rate. Mostly due to the electronics inside and any miniscule amount of contamination of other liquids or debris with send them to the trash pile instantly. But the electronics will fail just because it's cloudy outside.
I help build and make Cat injectors, and yes the tolerances inside those units are sub micron. ANY dirt will lock them up. Thank you EPA
@@Stewies_Stuff sure don't make them like they use to. Wouldn't dare throw in some ATF in the fuel tanks to lubricate a set of old injectors. These new ones would fuck up instantly
Old days injection pressures were 10,000 psi.. These days. 40,000 with multi shot cycles.
Mike you and gunner make a great team,he having alot of fun,matt doing 👏 already job. Great videos
left oil in cylenders before cranking (should have a relier on it. )
Incorrect
Now you can't beat that, a day in the shop with your boy. Gunner is awesome.
Couldn’t wait, so break from this video to go to the Area Diesel test and rebuild video. 😮 who’d a thought that diesel injector service was so complicated. Those guys look like they know their stuff that’s for sure. Clean room, impressive
Agree it’s crazy
Wow ! I did not realize how new and a low hr machine that the Volvo really was 😎❤️🍺
When you had the injectors back in and put the cage looking piece back on you forgot to put the square flat piece that goes under it towards the left side of the machine. That's the best way i can describe it seeing how i don't know anything about changing injectors on a excavator.
Not it
Has anyone got it right yet?
Wish you could get a pressure cleaner like Mrs DP’s one in Oz, it’s a great set up.
Gunner was more talkative in this video than any others, looks like he enjoys working with his dad as much as I did. Great vid as always
You also need to put grease on the filter gaskets so they won't suck air.
too late to guess but glad you fixed your error before hand. Regarding the 140, you have really never been truly happy with it from what I have seen. It was not a bad machine, but the 120 still out performed it many times and you had bought it to be a better machine. It didn't have the strength in the thumb that you needed either. Selling it was a good choice because the money you got for it can be put back against the sale of the larger machine you have your eyes set on. The 120 is a tried and true machine. The next machine shouldn't have to be one that you are comparing the 120 with. They need to have their own place in your line up. Good luck in your endevors. Give a great thank you to Mrs DirtPerfect for allowing you the freedom to make the decisions that you have so far. Thank you for providing me with hours of enjoyment and the lessons learned.
I was helping my grandpa when I was younger than gunner I could get my hands in places he couldn't
Challenge Guess: Did you install the injector hold-down upside down?
Nice guess
I would buy the 210 and keep the 140 your growing and versatility saves
Gunner is the MAN! I just love this kid.
You are one awesome guy.making the tractor Wright before you sell it . That's if you deside to .here in California you're off buying new .
Answer, did you make sure they were installed with the fuel tube hole in the correct direction?
Nice job, Fuel filter was giving you a but of schyte for a while...lol
Yes correct
@@DirtPerfect Was I the first to guess correctly?
Keep up the great videos!!!
More important than any Volvo 140 is the investment you are making into your boy Gunner, well done dad.
Torque wrench with the extensions
Nope myth look it up
Tightened the injector hold downs completely before installing the feed tubes to ensure they seat properly
that was going to be my guess. need to loosen the hold downs off before tightening the feed tubes. or like on a cummins, torque them to 11 in/lb initial
That was my guess too
It won't be long until little man will be working on and running these machines.
Gunner’s meaningful vocabulary dad is teaching will continue to surpass those who have their heads buried in digital gaming…lol. Oh how we miss those Dad and son days. One thing for sure, when we do get a day with them in our older years, we get to relive a lifetime of memories. Great video Mike. Pride of Ownership is golden for return on investment. Injector lubed with engine oil including the o’rings.
Nice job love Gunner working with you he’s sure getting good ! :) did you accidentally put the hold down clamps upside down ?
Glad she sold for good money and you have a great mindset selling a machine in total honesty ! Many wouldn’t :(
You did learn something from Chris. He would be proud of how clean the floor mat was.
No not at all
THE washers u left out
Love how gunner is getting involved he is learning so much.
Good thing you enjoy working on your equipment.you would be in trouble big time.if you would be saying it’s close enough and on to the next .hope it works.good video as always.keep it up.👍👍👍😎😎😎
That 210 is a good asset to you Mike.
I sure hope you will purchase it.
I do hvac, and you gotta keep all your filters clean; especially now when energy will cost 2-3-4 times more. It really helps.
Check your furnace filters, now is the time. Cheers!
What happened to the EATS? I want my Volvo's exhaust to be that clean and no more eats failures to. Please tell me who to call??????????
Ya know kids, are like the NSA...they hold all of your important secrets, even the ones you forgot, until the optimum spill factor is primed. Then maximum wife trouble will be achieved!!!!
Did not suck the Oil/Diesel out, that drained into cylinders after injector removal?
Love seeing you teach Gunner how to run/fix your equipment and did you take the the Dirt Perfect sticker off before you sold the excavator.
It's good that Gunner is taking an interest in the high paying repair side of the business... After all the only man that makes more money that the one running the excavator is the one that has to fix it 🤣
Also isn't it funny that the finicky parts that "fail alot" are actually kind of easy to get to and replace ... It's almost like it was designed that way ... 🤔
Gunner is a klever boy🌞 he knows to keep his cakeintake shut when the camera is on, fotunatly for us MBTS dont.
you being strait with the buyer tells me something about you 😍 love the atitude.
stay safe be well.
You forgot to put the brass washer in the hole.
Incorrect
hay dp when you get the volvo fixed you can bring it to ohio so i can use it for a few days thanks.....
I’m behind but I think it’s recommended to not fully tighten the injectors prior to installing the connector tubes.
Out of the mouths of babes. His comments are cuter than MBTS. Hows the racing going for gunner?
Man, that one-bladed shop ceiling fan looks like it can get 'er done!
Gunner did an awesome job💪🏻🤘🏼‼️😁
Was the technical glitch shall we call it 🤔 that the copper ring from the bottom of the injector fell out in the cover when you pulled them off or was it using the wrong lube on the feed tubes and tightening the injectors before installing the feed tubes so they machine fit correctly 🤔 👍🏻 awesome content as usual hope you enjoying the 210 😉👍👍
I nearly had a heart attach when gunner put his finger in that bolt hole😳 have seen a finger lost that way.
I think them volvo square exhaust would look mint on bubba dump and sound just as good
It is Sunday, and You bring the Perfect Man Video! 🔩⚙️🔧🛠️ The great Service from the Volvo 140 Motor!!! For Woman a heavy subject! We Drive the Machine very good, but the Repairs and Care is Man's Hobby 👍😂love Greetings 💅
I thought the 140 would be gone good video good to see hunter taking an interest in your work
Hunter? That’s Clinton’s son. DP’s son is Gunner. 😉
I would 100% put what we call the injector trim files in what they do is compensate for the variance between the injectors they provide offset fueling or pull back the fueling. I worked on cat c9.3a and bs and injector trim files are a must.
Yup worked for cat that explain everything thanks 😁
Also rail pressure leaks usually are hard to detect but occur between the interface of the quill tube to the injectors, usually people way over torque them. And mushroom that tip.
As soon as I saw the clean cab, shocking, I new you where selling it. It will be interesting to see the replacement. Question is it only the fact that it is to small now that you are replacing it or is there more reasons. Not really expecting an answer, not my business. Thank you and have a great week.
Great to see Gunner involved in this video. The Business is your lively hood but time with the children is so important. My children are now 24 and 27. I spent lots of time with them but wish now I had found more time.
Lmbo😂😂😂 Ol Gunner keeps your bull💩 to a minimal 😂😂😂😂
Hello from the Netherlands .
Sold the Volvo 😱😭😭
and thanks for the video DP .
Sincerely, Hollandduck
I do enjoy your videos, especially when MBTS shows up. He is a pleasure to watch and an added gem to your team.
Thanks for including our viewing pleasure as you run your business. Be safe and keep things fun.
So im assuming of you decide to keep the hyundaii your gonna get rid of one of the other excavators. I guess it would make better sense to get rid of one the excavators it would be the volvo since it a little newer to get more money outta .t. i guess thats the reason huh. Well good luck on your decision. The hyundaii would make sense because some jobs a slightly bigger machine would benefit you greatly
You called it a 120 instead of a 140 and I didn't see you used a new gasket putting it back together. But you did a great job.
i would have no idea what it is you did wrong but i enjoyed the video . I can not wait see you bring into toe fleet next . Love this channel Good seeing gunner in video too
Thanks
You know, you should set up bleachers and sell tickets when you and Aaron do mechanic work! You guys are a blast to watch!
Lol