Black Bunker BM8 Folding Magic
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you always get that one particular individual, that think themselves better than another and who find pleasure in bringing other people down to cover up their own shortcomings, in his case a lack of manners
Mr Bagshaw, you do not have to agree with another person, but you do have to be civil. It is as simple as that.
Hi Andy, (you probably won't have time to read this) I discovered your show during lockdown when I purchased my first (rubbish cheap springer) and wanted to know more. I've always found the show accessible and was able to pick up the basics the further I went along. I've found there are primarily really good people in the sport especially at my club who are always happy to give advice which is what you're doing. There are the few snobs that feel they're the knowledge of all things and try to belittle and bully people more so online. Not realising or caring of course that the sport REALLY needs good accessibility and exposure to get young people involved and keep it going for all of us. The club's won't be there without new members and the guns won't be there without the sales. Don't know what the guys problem is but you'll always find a few dull tools at the bottom of the box 😊
well said ? i found this out trying to join a club myself .... Clubs are hard to join ... i have a 30 range made at home .... that will do me lol
Agree with you. I’m mostly a home shooter. I make TH-cam videos. Nothing if AARs calibre however so many know it alls. What happened to being allowed to enjoy it and learn as you go? Just so you know there is a few of us who are nice! Cheers!
@@simonnoble7589 The guy at the end of the phone at my local club basically told me I wouldn't be accepted by other members as they only shoot top end stuff but recommended another club further away. I joined the other club that day based on the reception I got and over the course of a couple of years I've come to find pretty much 99% of them are really welcoming, friendly and helpful - even the higher end shooters have given me advice and always happy to show some kit or as I've found on many occasions let me have a quick go. It seems people just get online to annoy others. I might not agree with some of what Andy says but I'm still appreciative and grateful he's putting out content in a way everyone can get to grips with it. We don't all have a degree in ballistic coefficients, there's other places to go for the ducks bum fountain of knowledge. I'd genuinely say that watching these videos encouraged me to go further into a sport I really enjoy. So thanks Andy if you ever get around to reading this though if you had that much time I'd be surprised 😃
Well said Sir 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
Precisely my observation too.
One specific member whom I got into a bit of an exchange with, was fortunate enough to have accumulated a very nice collection of very high end airguns.
But every time a beginner would ask what airgun to start with that wouldn't break the bank, this twat would recommend Theobans or similar brands saying everything else was rubbish and then would proceed to show photos of his collection to win looks of admiration and awe.
He wasn't helping the newcomers in any shape other than getting off on the idea of making people think they can't get into the sport unless they spend a couple of Gs.
I suspected he was compensating for certain "shortcomings" in other areas but hey, I will live quite happy not knowing the definitive answer to that. 😂
I saw this on American YT channel recently with high power one. Very nice looking gun.
Andy always comes with very nice and informative reviews and in my opinion he is one of the nicest guys to hear.
Now Andy has commented on someone which is very unusual for him but I don’t know what is the matter. Surely some one may have very high self opinion.
For me Andy is the best and always gives very balanced and fair reviews which under any circumstances should not offend any body.
Thanks Andy for showing this. It’s a Fun item for sure, but I just don’t see why a folding gun in a triangle is desirable. Not a lot of money though. Each to their own
Morning Andy, love the review. Not something I'd necessarily buy but as always love the content and the review. What a very reasonable and intelligent way to deal with a troll , you are a true gentleman.
Well well indeed!! I love it, nothing serious, does the job it's intended for, and it really takes you back to just blasting tin cans away endlessly in ya garden for hours on end. Yes I love it.
Very good review sir Thank you.
Good Morning from Dublin.
A bit overcast, but I'll be over in Glasgow this weekend...so, the Dublin weather is not a problem.
A 'transformer' rifle. Interesting.
Good morning , from Yorkshire England ..... Sounds great . have a great holiday
@@simonnoble7589 will do. a 40 year school reunion (of sorts)
@@TheRealKaner dont forget to tune in next fridsy from Malta ? cheers
@@simonnoble7589 haha. I'll be in the Med at the end of May...at least the ship will have internet.
That's the only folding rifle I've seen that's bigger when folded than when it's unfolded!
One is black and tan and the other is tan and black. Are you sure you didn't just get the centre boxes accidently swapped?
Wouldn’t mind one at all. Performs reasonably well and could be even more accurate with different sights. Nice introduction to something different.
'The Day Of The Jackel' is one of my favorite movies and I could easily put in a list of
the top 100 movies of all time and I highly recommend it. I believe a relative of
Edward Fox was in a series that aired on PBS here in America called 'Lewis'.
Great content and presentations as always, the polite put down at the end made me chuckle. thanks to all at AAR.
Thanks for the review Andy, as result I visited the Vector shop yesterday and purchased a .177 in black. First time at the premises and had a really great experience.
I'm genuinely surprised at the amount of quality metal and the finish on this and the polymer pieces. Once assembled it's so sturdy if you handed it to someone they'd have no clue it's foldable.
I appreciate some of the suspicion about Chinese made products is entirely valid but this rifle has far exceeded my expectations regarding fit and finish.
Your disclaimer at the start of the vid was correct, I've now decided I also 'need' the . 22 in tan :) so stock levels permitting I'll be back at the shop next month.
Kind regards and thanks again for the time and effort you put into these reviews.
Morning all! Lovely weather for some shooting today. Enjoy!
Off to order one today be handy as farm pest basher. Also sure im read some were it comes with a optional baynet Great video keep it up all at at aar also the most polite response to a unnecessarily needed comment
Great video Andy, you mentioned this one when we were chatting at the shooting show so it's good to see see it! For the record I really enjoyed meeting you, we were talking about your archery video among others. Looking forward to the next cowboy one (no spoilers)!
Great video. Thanks. So refreshing to watch your stuff where I can’t see any influence from sponsors in your reviews.
THANKS as always Andy 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
I have to be honest i've heard you described using much harsher terms, such as on tuesday but then so was i, but i'd laugh it off and pity the jealous fool(s).....keep up the good work...we still love you! :)
Gary Bagshaws got mention That's probably a win in his eyes
Yes, HE got the attention he craves, but for all the wrong reasons.
I saw this rifle awhile ago and was just waiting for one of your reviews as I know it is trustworthy and honest yet again another great video with brilliant information . Thanks
Also known as Bell End Bagshaw
I'm not attracted to American-style prepping, but I can see two big advantages to this straight away:
1. My English cottage has plenty of floor space, but almost nowhere on the walls to fit a traditional gun cabinet aesthetically. This rifle would fit into a large key or medicine cabinet, or a fitted cabinet under the sloping ceilings of my upstairs rooms.
2. It'll fit in a backpack too, which is great, because my shooting ground has to be accessed through a very public area.
I'd be tempted to fit a red dot or even prism sight.
An obvious improvement would be building Crosman's MAG-fire system or similar into a future design... to reduce the faff of fumbling with pellets.
Very interesting review. Thank you.
google under bed gun rack/storage ) and think john wick thoughts
yes i could see it being a good backpack rifle for if youre going to be camping/hunting in the UK. for transportations sake or even just having it as an emergency type thing. but with our laws on carrying air weapons, having something "just in case" like that would probably not be seen as enough of a good reason to carry one.
i think it would be better in other countries where youre allowed to carry them more freely
I appreciate the somewhat clever ingenuity, and I think the concept of "play as if your a USA tacticool prepper" is cute. It would be fun to own as a youngster or teen. 11+ Ft pounds and fairly accurate too.
But an even more practical, robust, cheaper and simple survival air rifle is certainly a good idea. Think along the lines of the Chiappa little badger .22LR.
And why not have more budget field/farm use break barrels and C02's/PCP's with wire and synthetic folding, swinging, telescopic stocks?. Something a farm hand can carry on his quad without much worry about damage or much space needed.
Ofcourse legal overall length, folded and unfolded, considerations would have to be factored in to allow for the full 12ft pound limit in either configuration.
Its always nice to see new innovations, especially in the budget sector. Theres alot of guns that are very similar in every way, so the market needs a shake up with new ideas.
well said
Hi Andy, great idea but unfortunately I think it would probably be illegal to carry in its compacted position without being in a slip or some kind of bag etc
I have the tan version in .22 cal as well. I have done several videos on this air rifle shooting it un scoped and it is very accurate out to 30yrds.
the one things that has happened since I have had it and been shooting it for a few months now is that the rear site has started to drift after about 12 to 14 shots.
Not sure how to fix the issue due to the design of the rear site. But I will be putting a scope on it soon and make a video shooting it scoped as well. glad to see you demo these as well,
Cheers from the U.S.A.
I am the other guy in that photo. I had a great time and Andy was an absolute gentleman. And I have nothing but good things to say about vector air and all of the staff.
Thanks Andy.
Thank you for your comment, I must admit I remember our time together chatting and thoroughly enjoyed it. hopefully you’re not too upset with me using the photo and hopefully we will see you again. stay safe and thank you. Andy
@AAROnair not at all. I think I posted it on an agt vixen forum on Facebook. I really appreciate the time you took with my sons and I. I'm always happy to give positive feedback when it's due. Even though the vector guys were mega busy they took the time with me and I ended up buying a .22 vixen short, scope, extra mags, uragan shroud, bipod and loads of other bits from vector. There were plenty of other great retailers there but you guys stood out with your kind and friendly approach. And the after sales service was fantastic. Don't think I'll shop anywhere else. Your videos reignited my passion for shooting so I can't thank you enough.
Kind regards, Stephen.
you can only use 15 joules airguns free in the UK??
@@Ezekiel90316
Well I would rather shake your hand Sir than that of Mr. Bagshaw. Keep up the good work.
Good morning, I must say it's a long time since I have seen such an interesting Rifle, I like it, I like it a lot, a great review👍
A very interesting concept, Andy. Innovative 👍
Excellent Review Cheers Andy I have been looking for something like this since Edward Fox was Around!
Very interesting gun, I also like companies that think out of the box. My HW100 BPK is so short with the silencer removed it fits in my sports rucksack.
Good morning everybody , have a great weekend
morning Simon!
@@fliesarenegade hello, how are you ? Overcast ☁️ here . We’ve had a lot of rain ☔️ take care of
Great review, I have been looking at those, they certainly are different 👍
Watched this twice, listening to you Andy. I think you have become a TH-cam product persuader.
Hi Andy ,I always enjoy your reviews, Your enthusiasm and love for everything airgun related is always portrayed .Having had the pleasure of meeting you in person at the BSS in 2023 Mr Bagshaw quite frankly has the ability to talk through his ar*e .
Another bucket list item!!!
Andy love the concept of the rifle, and yes the day of the jackal is a great film based on truth i believe
Thanks for sharing keep up the good work cheers 👍
Hi Andy, thank you so much for another great review. You are a nice bloke and much appreciated by the people in the airgun community. As for you know who, he's just a school bully that has never grown up. He probably still has stabilisers on his bike 😅 Ignore the haters, Andy, they are not worth your time.
That's one slick looking gun, nice grouping as well! 👍
Thanks for another great review Andy, happy Friday to you and all the viewers and everyone have a great weekend!
Raining (again!) here in NS, blah.... 🤪
Pete 🇨🇦
Such amazing innovation …….. what will the big boys do to keep up with such cleverness. Fantastic
In re Gary Bagshaw:
Wise men below decks in the Royal Navy traditionally observed to any man who was too opinionated...
"Many a man's jaw has been broken by his lip".
A wise man would take note.
The only thing that's get broken below deck in the navy is ass.
@@Jayt750 You must be talking aboutbtge ruzzian navy. They're forming up on the sea-bed already in pteparation for the review of the Black Sea Fleet.
I hope you used a watermelon to zero it in! 😂
As far as trolls like Mr Bagshaw go - well, every village has to have one doesn't it.
I saw one of these come in my local store when I was in. Very interesting I’d like to give it a try I think
Had mine for about 6 weeks , nice to handel and very capable , think the company is part ot Tippmann
Another cracking review Andy! How about the BSA Scorpion TS, I've had mine nearly a year and is serving me really well on the bench.
I like the 22 rimfire survival backpack rifle. (Little badger)
An AGT VIXEN style magazine holder might look quite cool on that 🤷🏽♂️
Hi Andy, it looks a lot better with a scope on it now someone just needs to make a 3D cover that protects the scope and blends in when folded.
Hi Andy, great video as always. Any chance you could add the chronograph readings for the 22 in the comments for comparison with the 177? Many thanks
Not sure what I enjoyed more the review of the gun (about to Google where I can get one from) or the rubuke of Mr Bradshaw 😂
Who is Mr Bradshaw? Comment deleted or a regular? Not seen any reviews for a while and looking for something different, well the prices are certainly different...
What happened to the AA400 for £400, anything decent seems be more than I paid for my car. :)
I remember the film and Bruce Willis also did a version of it as well
Trust me to wonder why the tan box doesnt come with the tan gun and vice versa.
Shops should get enough customers asking the same and willing to swap them over unless they made that impossible which would be a mistake I think.
Great review nice to see what technology can bring to the table .this one sure is different and no doubt will improve with time .great gun by the way cheers swino Grimsby
Don't worry about the cabbage Andy,brilliant videos covering a wide range.
Don't mind me asking would this gun be illegal, if you can fold the stock , it's like a long barreled pistol shooting over the limit ?
Top man with a heart, maybe like a cabbage, lol.
Looks great!
Love it 👍
Well im a bit annoyed i missed Gerry Grimshaws comments they certainly raised the hackles of a few , it seems Mr Rickshaw you have quite the talent !
Unusual item well reviewed , whatever Mr Foreshaws views and comments were ., im fairly certain he'll soon be forgotten . Offshore , was that his name ?
Dave
Well you sure showed Gary who's boss with your wordsmithery!
@@Jayt750 thank you
Fantastic review and a awesome different Air Rifle, you could put it in a carrier bag 😊
It's obviously what Lidl and Home Bargains were thinking of when they made their big bags for life.
so many breaking point... i keep my webly(made by hatsan) vmx dr
""Day of the Jackle"" lol good movie. Also from the 70's Brass Target. spoiler A airgun is the weapon of choice.😂
Saw that gun a while back on another channel. Interesting idea but if I wanted a "prepper" sub-12 airgun I'd get a synthetic stock HW97 and live with the weight and length.
Every village has a Bagshaw in it's midst. Keyboard critics are sadly widespread nowadays, oxygen thieves the lot of 'em.
Great boy toy, really cool, not sure I really need one though, I've got quite a few impulse buys that are still sat in the box. Lol
I bought one in tan very soon after a quiet word with Andy at the NEC Gun Show. Budget price but not budget quality or plastic. In all, it makes you smile. It's fun but not going to help you survive WW3! For a trekker, it may be too heavy to carry for an occasional pot shot. There is even an optional bayonet, which is going to get the boys in blue worried. I think it probably makes more sense in countries without power limitations.
Great fun!
Pity someone else didn't sell their kids.
Great review and a really interesting development. Looks fun and could cut down on storage space 🤔
I think they have limited themselves a bit. If they offered the box in black, tan or olive green and you could choose for yourselves which one, it would be better.
Also, I think marketing a black & tan air rifle could be problematic in some parts of the country.
The box is for a bayonette, that's how it's sold in the US.
Hello my British airgun friend.
Quite cool of a gimmick imo. At least you do not absolutely *need* to remove any added sights off of it - even though I think it might be preferrable, if you care about your added optic sight. Will be interesting to hear of how the hinges last over time in use. The box seems okay. Would most probably just put the pellets (and the optic, if using one) in the case..
Dunno if it is just me.. or does this one seem as an old thing to someone else too? Seen this one in american videos a while back also - and already then it seemed old. This rifle been showed off in some american Shot Show already a couple of years back or something? This Black Bunker rifle surely did not seem as a new thing to me anymore... Just been finding it odd and pondering about it..
Surely a cool looking rifle in my eyes, though probably not getting on my wants list..
Maybe it wasn't available for export to the UK until now. I was looking at another gun - recently reviewed - and there was only a single one for sale in the UK.
Nice! Would have been perfect if they'd have thought to include a bespoke carry case for it.
I like it. I like it alot
It's pretty cool...what's the fps for the break barrel rifle..and how much is it..
well said andy👏👏, call out the trolls- name + (shame (if possible) , i'm sure its water off a ducks back by now,,,,,, but hey they'll always be there somewhere,
great job as always - look forward to yours every friday 👍🙏, up gary "ballbag4shaw" what a richard !!
Definitely an interesting concept. I don't think I need a folding rifle, but when did that ever stop us :-)
You really are quite enthusiastic about this one…lol I think a 30 cal version would be nice
Have you fitted this into a bag? Just wondering what sort of size rucksack would be needed?
Morning all
good morning , how are you this wk ?
@@simonnoble7589 fine thanks, getting ready for a week in Malta from next Wed. How are you?
@@sergentcolon1 Wow , yes a great place to vist , not been myself . Lots of History from 2nd world war ... iam not bad , today . might gets some shooting done today ? after the big winds etc . I have MS 3 so iam disabled shooter now . Thats why iam not at work .... Have a great holiday 😃
That looks very funky. What is it with something that folds, snaps together, love it. Like cp2 converts from pistol to carbine. Very cool
Hi Andy, I am having real trouble trying to find a deep enough slip to carry my BSA R10 pepper laminate with a PARD NV008 mounted up top, any recommendations? Or perhaps a more compact mount for the PARD may be the answer?? I grudge spending the money on an Eagle mount to find out it still won't fit in a run of the mill rifle slip?
I think a shrouded barrel would be a really nice upgrade to the next gen
1322 want's to have a word about the size factor. And for the life of me cannot remember the name of the baikal pistol with attachable barrel and butt-stock.
Am i the only one seeing the triangular fold as a bit cumbersome?
Cool concept, for sure. I wonder how this works with UK laws regarding needing sleeves for your plinker when youre out and about. Otherwise and again, nice idea.
Edward fox with the pumpkin
Which gas canister pistol and rifle are most effective in stopping the advance of someone intent on breaking and entering or causing one physical harm?
Are break barrel and springer types suitable for self defense?
Asking for those who don't want to cause permanent harm or don't like or are too afraid to have real guns in their homes?
I'm assuming you're in the USA. The sensible answer in the USA context is you can't effectively 'stop' a determined assailant without a level of force that could cause permanent harm. If you're really serious about home defence (or defense) get some training in 'real' guns and suitable advice on appropriate calibres of ammunition. A UK airgun channel can't advise you on this.
*Woah! Look kids, a gimmick!*
Good review Andy.
Wow, I like that.👍
Here in the UK I am struggling to see a use for this weapon. Great design but that's it.
@metomelardyazz1933Are you nuts? Skint people living from check to check are going to spend £250 on it so they can maybe bag a rabbit in the unlikely even of a fuel shortage? 😂 Great Plan you have there, you must be a master strategist.
Easy to transport and hide when you have nosy neighbours. Maybe a slightly shorter barrel so it sits flush?
Hi Andy, Many thanks for your awesome video reviews. Because of this review I have just placed an order from Vector Air 😁. Will I need to clean out the barrel before I fire this please? And would I get good FPS ft/lbs with 14.66g h&n pellets?
Also is the thread male 1/2" 20 UNF as I'm having a moderator made for it. Thanks
can we have eb arms xv2 and xv2 rs on please andy and if not 1 of them what pcp should i buy my daughter
I honestly don’t care for multi shot (magazine) on a break barrel. That would be like having a multi shot bow & arrow, I don’t see the point.
Can we have some replica Pistol reviews, please 🙏
Ah Friday. It's Andy so it must be the weekend 😁. Thanks for the review. The BM8 is a bit gimmicky but at that price worth a punt. Ideal back-up you can tuck away but be ready to deploy in seconds when your bottle's out of air !
ps Still waiting for that Reximex Lyra review. I need the AAR stamp of approval before ordering one 😉
could be next week hopefully. Andy
Would of liked to have seen the the .177 grouping
Kind of looks like a nail gun - like it.
I thought the same, stick some DeWalt/Milwaukee stickers on it and a chart with nail sizes and you could probably walk into a police station or bank without a 2nd glance.
Re Edward Fox reference must be the poshest assassin ever
Can you shoot .22 slugs in this brake barrel?
When it's folded, it looks like a nail gun.
Surely it should become more compact when folded, not less. Makes no sense that it actually adds bulk...