Thanks for info iam planing a old barn recycle for my mountain view Himeji flat trailer with old tractor demo barn by excavator couple locale hibillies men for ranch hands labors operators my plan farm my wife handles the beesness
Nice work, I've been floating the idea of purchasing an HM-122. Your video just sold me. You obviously take care of your equipment. Thanks for making this video.
Excellent job! Precise and to the point! I have no questions... You basically sold me because this is the mill I've been looking into investing in. Living in northern Maine this is a valuable tool to have and because of the price of lumber these days it'll pay for itself in no time. I know it will for me cause I need a garage/shop to build plus other projects... Thanks again,
By the amount of love you put in cleaning your machine after work, I can imagine how your shop, house and landscaping looks like… Lol.. Thanks for sharing, and for a clear, helpful video!!
Actually, I take better care of the mill than anything else. Right now my workshop is a complete mess, can't even see the table surface because of all the tools and crap stacked on top (too many projects happening at once).
Great video, very relaxing watching you saw! I have owned a Woodmizer LT 40 Super Hydraulic and recently sold a Woodmizer LT 28, great saws but more than I want to have invested...I think a Woodland would be a good compromise.
Thank You for posting this! I've been shopping all the different brands, getting ready to take the plunge and purchase my own-- This one was floating to the top of my list, exactly as equipped in your video with the same HP and same extension-- and now I can see it first hand. Bravo on a Great, Informative Video!
I recently purchased a HN122 sawmill largely based on your reviews and excellent advice concerning setup and maintenance. I positioned the mill on a raised base that is solidly built. This made the alignment of the mill on the base very easy. When I set a log on the mill it does not move and my cuts are straight and true. Thank you for your insight and engineering background.
What a nice review and I really like the base you built for it. I hope you don't mind when I copy the design😉 I'd like to add a couple points to your review, if you don't mind. 1. I have the HM126, mine is also about 4 months old. I placed the order on a Monday afternoon minutes before closing, the purchase was processed the next morning and the machine left the Canadian warehouse on Wednesday morning. It arrived, 2000 miles west from Woodland Mills, in my yard the following Tuesday morning. You can't beat that!!!! Same with assembling the machine, super easy when you follow the instructions and don't try to take shortcuts. 2. It starts on the second pull even in -20C (-4F) weather, I don't need to torture myself when it gets any colder than that. 3. The polyurethane belt on the follower wheel gave me trouble, probably because of the cold, it caused the blade to fly off and I couldn't figure out what was going on. Called Woodland Mills, the tech knew right away what the problem was, saying they had a number of complaints about the polyurethane belt and shipped a replacement BX57 drivebelt out to me. 4. I made one upgrade. I replaced the magnetic logscale with a digital scale that just sticks on with two magnets, making it much easier to achieve the desired thickness every time.
Greetings. Just discovered your channel. Your assessment of this mill was most thorough and helpful. I appreciate how particular you are in the use & care of your machine.👍👍👍
LOL, When I saw you cleaning out your blade box at the end with your fingers, I thought to myself, he should use a long haired paint brush to make it easier. Then you pull a fast one on me and up it with a leaf blower. Well done Sir, Well done!
Thank you for an excellent review been looking at buying one of these. Can you put a video with youre shed? It would be interresting to see your set-up. It seems to be very clean and very good loking shed
Excellent review, I have had max 130 for 1 year, similar excellent experience, I like your pre flight check, I do the same, never an issue. I like your idea for installing hose the carriage stops. Life is good, happy milling!
I'm glad you "cut off here because it gets repetitive". That was so satisfying to watch I've been neglecting cleaning up the tree brush in my front yard the last 20 minutes.... Just one more cut....
Hi Lumber Jack - Thank you for this comprehensive, informative and honest review of your sawmill. After much research and watching your review, I ordered a Woodland Mills HM122 with 9.5 HP. Shipping date Nov 30th. I look forward to learning more from your expertise and am very grateful you took the time to share. Best, D Green
Excellent video. Been looking at mills for some time now. Great to get a review from someone who has actually worked with different mills. This mill has been on my short list. I’m convinced now this is the one.
You did a great job of explaining the mill, how it works and what does what with each different knob and handle. Makes me want one now!!! lol Good job of milling that wood too. Still makes me want one, but... they aren't available for shipping until Oct. 31, 2021. Enjoyed seeing you mill that wood. I did just share this video on their Facebook page, so others could see it in action too.
looks great, but I would have given a steeper pitch on that roof (45 degree) to reflect the noise out and away rather than straight back down on me.....
Great review bud. You hit on every reason I went for Woodland Mills (126 in my case) as well. From the clogged chutes to the auto water, etc for the $. 8 to 9 weeks left for delivery.
The metallic clink when you engage the blade indicates the clutch needs adjustment. Call customer support. Great review, very nice shelter and set up. All the best...
Worked on small engines for 40 years and 100% you can rotate the recoil assembly. Just put your own sticker over the kohler one if it bothers you that much.
Ergonomically it’s in the best spot now, regardless of the other controls. And if it get moved 180 degrees to the other side, now you’re standing in the wrong place to change the choke when it starts. He’s correct in saying it’s poor design. It should be about 10-15 degrees more counterclockwise. Oh well, it’s the new chinese Kohler, he’ll be lucky if that’s the biggest problem he has with it!
I know, what a genius. He studied it.😂 and maybe he can rotate it. I thought just looking at it would tell you for sure that’s possible. People are just….. I don’t know, unable to think. Oh shit he’s a mechanical engineer. What!!!! I’m a high school dropout and whatever. That shit is funny.
Great review video. Checking gas, oil, lubricant, belt tension, blade alignment before cutting logs is a great idea. Anyone that takes care of their equipment do these types of things. Always checking log stops heights prior to making a cut. Keeping a close eye on lubricant flow during a cut. Again fantastic video.
I went with the WM LT35 full hydro. I'm not too old too move logs around by hand, but someday I will be and when that day comes, I'll still be able to saw. Your set up is a beautiful thing, tho
I love my hm122, I went with the 7.5 hp and it's just fine for hardwoods..I also just got the trailer with the 6ft extension...can't wait to get milling on my farm..need to build another barn.
Your video has salvaged my mill which I picked up in Ontario and later discovered that the mounting holes had been drilled on the wrong side of the track. WM refuses to correct this, instead creating a video to show that the wheels will 'mold' to the FLAT track. With your video, I'll move on and hopefully get the saw operational. Thx.
Wait, a mechanical engineer just raved about the quality, dependability, and affordability of the mill that I have on back order. 😁😁 This has brought me so much peace of mind ! awesome milling tutorial too
Very good detailed video. I'm thinking about a sawmill and your video provides excellent info in helping me decide what direction to go. I think I'll subscribe even if you only make a few videos. Appreciate your input on what the Kohler engine and details about this unit. I see down the comment list about rotating the pull rope housing. I built a log spliter and had a similar condition. Rotated the housing to my liking and in my case I ignored the sticker and it works much better in new position. I have a cedar forest and a whole list of projects. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, I really appreciate your work.
Great review. i did a lot of research before I bought my HM122 and I 'm happy to get confirmation that I made a good choice. It is a great saw for the price. One other design issue is the log stop guard doesn't always stop the saw from hitting if the stop is low with the bevel turned inward but that's certainly not a deal breaker. You have a very well designed set up there too.
Thanks for the great video! If I may ask for example, at 27:45, what are you measuring for? I was thinking if it was to determine blade height, maybe rig a laser pointer as a sight-guide. But what are you measuring for?
Yes, to set appropriate cut height for a crisp edge on the cant. I do have a laser level (see video on leveling mill bed) but they are not bright enough to read on a sunny day. A better setup would be something optical or using a single bright laser that you can run down the log to check.
@@Lumber_Jack I think you got just the right cut height there! I wonder if a $20 laser pointer would be bright enough, or what the price point would be ($100?) maybe you could mount a bracket on the housing at blade height and just swivel the pointer. I'm sure you will have lots of solutions there. Thanks for sharing! I like watching what you created!
Would like to see you talk about the how you setup the lumber scale and how you it is used. I sometimes have trouble getting mine to land on the mark on the scale I am wanting.
That's a great idea for a video, be glad to do it. There is a lot of complexity in those scales, which is good if you can take advantage of it but bad if it gets in the way.
awesome review am in the market for a mill for some property im going to be building on next year that is loaded with trees and this mill looks like its has a lot of good features for the price
Just got an HM 122. Less than five hours on it. It looks like you put an extension on the water drip. I have the adjustable guide. Water comes out a zerk fitting and, if flow is not set high, it dribbles and doesn't reach the blade. I added a short extension, too. First cuts were green coastal redwood. Band box filled with wet sawdust. I cut the bars out of the sawdust exhaust port. Problem solved. I didn't like having to screw the knob completely out and set it down to open the doors. I changed the hole to a slot. Loosen the knob a little and doors open. I got a bad winch. It worked well for a couple of hours, then took progressively more force to crank the head down. I measured 25 pounds at the crank vs about 10 to crank it up. WM is sending a new winch. Meanwhile, I opened mine up, sprayed the clutch disks with silicone, and put it back together. I drilled a small hole in the bottom of the case so I can spray more silicone in now and then if needed. Works fine now. Still ten pounds to crank up, but now only 11 pounds to crank down. I noticed you use the pin to hold blade height. Does your winch not hold steady without using the pin? I put my base on the ground so I won't have to buy a tractor to lift logs. How do you get logs onto your mill? You mentioned the advantage of not having to bend over, but I see you bent over to watch the cut. I find it easier to walk in front of the mill, pulling it with my left hand. Easier to watch the cut and easy on my back. I hadn't thought of rotating the starter for better pull direction. It's on my list for tomorrow. Thanks for the review. The starter suggestion by Matthew Prestine alone made watching worth my time.
My winch also began to feel tight on the way down after about 4-5 hours, and just like you I cured it with silicone spray. Had to spray it a couple days in a row, and it's been good since, so I guess the silicone worked into wherever it needed to go. I don't know that I need to use the index pin to lock in the height, but it's habit for me to always go down past my mark, then crank up to put tension on the cable and set the pin to hold the tension. Leads to very repeatable cuts and no risk of engine vibrations causing the clutch or cable to slip. I use forks on my tractor (2014 Kubota L3200) to lift logs onto the mill, then I usually leave the tractor parked there to offload cutoffs and boards right back onto the forks and take them away after sawing. I couldn't live without the tractor, both for skidding logs out of the woods and moving them to the mill. Where the base height helps my back is when lifting boards off the mill and adjusting the posts, clamps, etc while sawing. There is a lot of fiddling when you saw and the less I have to bend for that the better. I sawed 120 siding boards a few weeks ago, and that would have wrecked my back if I was bending over to take every board off. Great idea to walk in front and pull the mill -- I need to try that!
Jack, I see a lot of guys using the pressure treated lumber as a base. Keep in mind that it will change shape dramatically as it dries so check your base for level daily until it's stabilized or you'll transfer those warps up to your cut.
Agree 100%, and it's as bad as green lumber in my experience (maybe worse). I just noticed a change as our weather flipped over to spring and plan to run a string down the bunks to re-level everything before my next big project.
@@Lumber_Jack I'm in the prep stages, awaiting our mill. I'm going to be using felled eastern cedar beams that have been dry for years. Will be treating them with several coats of Tung oil to keep the humidity absorbtion down. Hopefully this does the trick. I checked on buying some 6x6 angle iron and the price of steel was outrageous.
I saw another video where the guy poured his own concrete slab, but that really lowered the work area. I like the height of yours... Maybe watching level is not so bad to get this height.
After alot of research and comparing my options, Just decided today to order my HM122. Thanks for the review. I really like your set up. Wondering if it is possible to share info on it as I plan to use a similar setup
Nice mill. I really like the base you built for it. I see so many people running a mill basically on the ground. My back hurts watching it lol. Very nice setup. Thanks
Really no different than cutting higher. You just need to be able to hold/clamp the wood properly, regardless of blade height. The lowest I have gone with the standard posts is about 3/4".
Great review. The only trouble with it is that now Will they sell so many, that the delivering time Will be much delayed cause the succes. Now I wan't one too. 😉👍🏾 Today I bought an old chainsaw to make into a sawmill a very powerfull Jonsered 80, but I like this sawmill of Your's a lot, thank's to Your rerview. And a very nice and clever setup - stand, shelter, etc. Made with so much sence and care. In My opinion they have to offer You this sawmill for free, cause the very good commerciel value of Your video. 👍🏾 🌹🌹🌹Thank's a lot. 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
I just purchased a hm 122 after watching your video and will be happy with it I'm sure if I can keep the blade from jumping off. I have set the tracking I have set the guides with a thick piece of paper and also the bearing behind the blade. I also turn the wheel many turns before starting the Engine to watch and see how it is running. Blade is running 3/8 inch in front of band wheel and just enough to feel a little on the back of band wheel. But have not been able to finish the first little buck eye log yet. I'm sure I'm missing something but not sure what so thought you might have an idea. Guess woodland mills is very busy now and has not answered my call or called me back. Thanks for any input
Some people run into issues because they are running too much water and it causes the blade to hydroplane off the wheels. Should only be about 1-2 drips per second. If it runs OK when spun by hand and when cutting dry, but jumps off when cutting with water, then that's the problem. Try posting on their facebook customer group -- facebook.com/groups/woodlandmills -- you'll have a bunch of other owners to give suggestions in addition to WM folks. While spinning by hand, can you tell if the blade is wandering off center on one of the wheels more than the other? That is the first clue it's a tracking issue. Rarely you might need to adjust the drive wheel tracking if that is the root cause.
The water was the problem. Thanks again! and I did just order more new blades from woodmizer 0.042 x 1.25 x 125 . 15 blades for 250.16 shipped to the door
Hi Lumber Jack, i'm looking to buy one of their mill but i'm hesitating for the size. 22" or 26". Can you tell me where is the 22" limit? is it between the the 2 blade guides? Thanks for your help.
It is, but practically speaking it can be difficult to clamp that size log onto the bed. You lose a couple inches of practical capacity on all the mills just due to log handling and clamping.
Ok thanks for the super quick feedback. I'll probably try to go with the 26 then... I have big logs and they are not as straight as the one on your mill.
I'm hoping to get one by the end of this year and when I do ill have a box store worth's of wood because I have a lot of free time so I would be making wood for everything!
The lift points can be used to lift the trolley onto the track during initial assembly. I would not want to do it regularly as it will likely throw the trolley out of alignment and require repeating the shakedown / alignment step.
Has not been an issue so far. I always blow all sawdust off the bed/rails, saw head, trolley, and inside cabinet with a leaf blower at the end of each day, since that can be corrosive and will trap moisture. That's probably the most important thing you can do. And I keep a loose fitting grill cover (amzn.to/3tAtrOI $25 on Amazon) over the saw head and trolley when not being used. The blade would be the most likely part to rust first, and I've never seen any rust on my blades. So that tells me things are staying pretty well protected and dry.
Very informative review. Thank you. Is there a laser accessory for this so you can sight the log easier? I’m new to this and I’m just starting to shop around
I can't say I have paid good attention to time, but it varies from log to log for sure. The main thing I notice is how much lumber I can make in a day, and it's always a remarkable amount. These mills can be very productive.
Check out this new video, it shows a few shots of the attachment plates (I used scrap diamond plate and 1/2" bolts): th-cam.com/video/jtYVJvffQYY/w-d-xo.html
Great Video! My wife is insisting we build our base and shed just like yours! Very nice setup! Would you be so kind and divulge what brand or where you sourced your cant hook? Thanks!!!
Great question!! That cant hook is about 15 years old. I got it (via mail order) from Peavey Manufacturing up in Maine. In case that name sounds familiar, it's because that is the company that first invented this type of tool, which is often nicknamed "Peavey" when set up with a pointy tip. Their website is at: peaveymfg.com and they make their products in the USA and ship . I also have their bark spud and a couple other tools.
@@Lumber_Jack Thank you very much! Found it on Amazon. The shape of the hook is what caught my eye. ALL the other hooks are made with more bow in the spine but less back angle on the point, where this one is straight with more back angle on the point. Actually allows it to bite larger logs with a smaller profile. There is one major difference between your 15 year old cant and the contemporary version....the timber jack feature. I'm not sure how I feel about that, might remove it totally. The clean look (and function) of the older one is very nice. Well again, thank you for sharing the source! I just received my mill yesterday so soon I will be setting up and going at it!!!!
For a 1 year followup review, see: th-cam.com/video/F9EyYlJFSa4/w-d-xo.html
This video tipped the balance when I did purchase this model in July 22 and it has not disappointed. Thanks for a great in depth and honest review.
Thanks for info iam planing a old barn recycle for my mountain view Himeji flat trailer with old tractor demo barn by excavator couple locale hibillies men for ranch hands labors operators my plan farm my wife handles the beesness
Nice work, I've been floating the idea of purchasing an HM-122. Your video just sold me. You obviously take care of your equipment. Thanks for making this video.
Excellent job! Precise and to the point! I have no questions... You basically sold me because this is the mill I've been looking into investing in. Living in northern Maine this is a valuable tool to have and because of the price of lumber these days it'll pay for itself in no time. I know it will for me cause I need a garage/shop to build plus other projects... Thanks again,
By the amount of love you put in cleaning your machine after work, I can imagine how your shop, house and landscaping looks like… Lol..
Thanks for sharing, and for a clear, helpful video!!
Actually, I take better care of the mill than anything else. Right now my workshop is a complete mess, can't even see the table surface because of all the tools and crap stacked on top (too many projects happening at once).
Just bought an HM126 Woodlander (trailer) but yours is the best looking stationary setup Ive seen so far. Nice work!
Great video, very relaxing watching you saw! I have owned a Woodmizer LT 40 Super Hydraulic and recently sold a Woodmizer LT 28, great saws but more than I want to have invested...I think a Woodland would be a good compromise.
Nice see you taking your time and enjoying the process!
Excellent narration / instruction. Video was also of a above average quality. Thanks,this was well worth saving,to my library.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Woodland Mills HM122. It’s great to hear how it performs in real-life situations.
Thank You for posting this! I've been shopping all the different brands, getting ready to take the plunge and purchase my own-- This one was floating to the top of my list, exactly as equipped in your video with the same HP and same extension-- and now I can see it first hand. Bravo on a Great, Informative Video!
I recently purchased a HN122 sawmill largely based on your reviews and excellent advice concerning setup and maintenance. I positioned the mill on a raised base that is solidly built. This made the alignment of the mill on the base very easy. When I set a log on the mill it does not move and my cuts are straight and true. Thank you for your insight and engineering background.
You fired up the blower and immediately reminded my of Cady Shack! From saw mills to golf courses. Great Video
I use it to clean up my living room too!
What a nice review and I really like the base you built for it. I hope you don't mind when I copy the design😉
I'd like to add a couple points to your review, if you don't mind.
1. I have the HM126, mine is also about 4 months old. I placed the order on a Monday afternoon minutes before closing, the purchase was processed the next morning and the machine left the Canadian warehouse on Wednesday morning. It arrived, 2000 miles west from Woodland Mills, in my yard the following Tuesday morning. You can't beat that!!!! Same with assembling the machine, super easy when you follow the instructions and don't try to take shortcuts.
2. It starts on the second pull even in -20C (-4F) weather, I don't need to torture myself when it gets any colder than that.
3. The polyurethane belt on the follower wheel gave me trouble, probably because of the cold, it caused the blade to fly off and I couldn't figure out what was going on. Called Woodland Mills, the tech knew right away what the problem was, saying they had a number of complaints about the polyurethane belt and shipped a replacement BX57 drivebelt out to me.
4. I made one upgrade. I replaced the magnetic logscale with a digital scale that just sticks on with two magnets, making it much easier to achieve the desired thickness every time.
Excellent Jack. I love your setup, exactly like I envisioned what I intend to build. Thanks much
Greetings. Just discovered your channel. Your assessment of this mill was most thorough and helpful. I appreciate how particular you are in the use & care of your machine.👍👍👍
Great video!! You sold me on one of these. Very nice shop and bench you built for this piece of equipment.
LOL, When I saw you cleaning out your blade box at the end with your fingers, I thought to myself, he should use a long haired paint brush to make it easier. Then you pull a fast one on me and up it with a leaf blower. Well done Sir, Well done!
Thank you for an excellent review been looking at buying one of these. Can you put a video with youre shed?
It would be interresting to see your set-up. It seems to be very clean and very good loking shed
thinking the same...lol
Good review of your Mill. Can you do a video on your shed?. It looks good from what i can see.
Awesome job! Love this setup. One of the best I've seen.
Nice Set up the Wood land Mills are Nice and the base for the tracks he made are beautiful Job
Excellent review, I have had max 130 for 1 year, similar excellent experience, I like your pre flight check, I do the same, never an issue. I like your idea for installing hose the carriage stops. Life is good, happy milling!
I'm glad you "cut off here because it gets repetitive". That was so satisfying to watch I've been neglecting cleaning up the tree brush in my front yard the last 20 minutes....
Just one more cut....
Great tracking and shed set up! I’m envious. Thanks for the review
Awesome video I love it! Little slow but it shows it in real time, adding in the camera work. Keep it up buddy.
Just pushed the button on the 122. Thanks for a great review.
Hi Lumber Jack - Thank you for this comprehensive, informative and honest review of your sawmill. After much research and watching your review, I ordered a Woodland Mills HM122 with 9.5 HP. Shipping date Nov 30th. I look forward to learning more from your expertise and am very grateful you took the time to share. Best, D Green
Thank you, enjoy your mill!
Excellent video. Been looking at mills for some time now. Great to get a review from someone who has actually worked with different mills. This mill has been on my short list. I’m convinced now this is the one.
You did a great job of explaining the mill, how it works and what does what with each different knob and handle.
Makes me want one now!!! lol
Good job of milling that wood too.
Still makes me want one, but... they aren't available for shipping until Oct. 31, 2021.
Enjoyed seeing you mill that wood.
I did just share this video on their Facebook page, so others could see it in action too.
I like to see a video about the stand and shelter you have for the mill.
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looks great, but I would have given a steeper pitch on that roof (45 degree) to reflect the noise out and away rather than straight back down on me.....
@@guygillmore2970 Jesu Christ Guy.
Yup... Would love to see a quick overview of the stand and especially the shelter (with dimensions)
Especially since I'll have some time on my hands waiting another 8 weeks for delivery. Lol
I've really been enjoying my woodland mills so far. Great review. 👍
Great review bud. You hit on every reason I went for Woodland Mills (126 in my case) as well. From the clogged chutes to the auto water, etc for the $. 8 to 9 weeks left for delivery.
Awesome awesome, I do like the way you went over this and pretty much sold me on simple.Thanks
The metallic clink when you engage the blade indicates the clutch needs adjustment. Call customer support.
Great review, very nice shelter and set up. All the best...
good little review , I like your mill house shelter , I was picturing one very similar
Worked on small engines for 40 years and 100% you can rotate the recoil assembly. Just put your own sticker over the kohler one if it bothers you that much.
I bet you could heat it up with a blow dryer, and reset it.
Ergonomically it’s in the best spot now, regardless of the other controls. And if it get moved 180 degrees to the other side, now you’re standing in the wrong place to change the choke when it starts.
He’s correct in saying it’s poor design. It should be about 10-15 degrees more counterclockwise. Oh well, it’s the new chinese Kohler, he’ll be lucky if that’s the biggest problem he has with it!
@@butkatrello hi
I know, what a genius. He studied it.😂 and maybe he can rotate it. I thought just looking at it would tell you for sure that’s possible. People are just….. I don’t know, unable to think. Oh shit he’s a mechanical engineer. What!!!! I’m a high school dropout and whatever. That shit is funny.
@@derekmason2044maybe by "studied it" he means he looked at it and figured he could move it.
Then the maybe is high way to move it.
Thank you for an excellent review been looking at buying one of these. Also very nice shed.
Great review video. Checking gas, oil, lubricant, belt tension, blade alignment before cutting logs is a great idea. Anyone that takes care of their equipment do these types of things. Always checking log stops heights prior to making a cut. Keeping a close eye on lubricant flow during a cut. Again fantastic video.
Great set up and good job demensrating how to cut lumber
Love your raised platform! Got a 126 coming in to our homestead in Alaska. Will build similarly, but just a little taller to get under there.🌲🌲🌲
I went with the WM LT35 full hydro. I'm not too old too move logs around by hand, but someday I will be and when that day comes, I'll still be able to saw.
Your set up is a beautiful thing, tho
I love my hm122, I went with the 7.5 hp and it's just fine for hardwoods..I also just got the trailer with the 6ft extension...can't wait to get milling on my farm..need to build another barn.
Your video has salvaged my mill which I picked up in Ontario and later discovered that the mounting holes had been drilled on the wrong side of the track. WM refuses to correct this, instead creating a video to show that the wheels will 'mold' to the FLAT track. With your video, I'll move on and hopefully get the saw operational. Thx.
Very nice setup! Thanks for sharing.
nice nice vid ty so much for taking the time to do this, I am going to buy this.
i like your set-up for the mill, i have th 126 model, gonna do this same set-up
Great ser up, I question the fact that no concrete flooring for stability with the lumber stability horizon area?
Very nice review. Look forward to more of your sawmill videos. Thanks.
Very nice job explaining your milll.
Qualified Engineers review and recommended pre start procedures. Thank you.
Is there a video for the framework it is sitting on? well done.
Thank you so much for an actual comprehensive video. Nice work
Wait, a mechanical engineer just raved about the quality, dependability, and affordability of the mill that I have on back order.
😁😁
This has brought me so much peace of mind ! awesome milling tutorial too
Very good detailed video. I'm thinking about a sawmill and your video provides excellent info in helping me decide what direction to go. I think I'll subscribe even if you only make a few videos. Appreciate your input on what the Kohler engine and details about this unit. I see down the comment list about rotating the pull rope housing. I built a log spliter and had a similar condition. Rotated the housing to my liking and in my case I ignored the sticker and it works much better in new position. I have a cedar forest and a whole list of projects. Thank you for taking the time to make this video, I really appreciate your work.
What a beautiful unit, nice price. Awesome sawmill shed
Really appreciate you sharing your experience on this. I'm in the market for one of these myself. :)
Great review. i did a lot of research before I bought my HM122 and I 'm happy to get confirmation that I made a good choice. It is a great saw for the price. One other design issue is the log stop guard doesn't always stop the saw from hitting if the stop is low with the bevel turned inward but that's certainly not a deal breaker. You have a very well designed set up there too.
Liked your review. You helped decide together the WM 130 max. Thanks
Excellent review👍🏻
In-depth, clear and understandable. Thank you.
You convinced me to go with this one.
Thanks for the great video! If I may ask for example, at 27:45, what are you measuring for? I was thinking if it was to determine blade height, maybe rig a laser pointer as a sight-guide. But what are you measuring for?
Yes, to set appropriate cut height for a crisp edge on the cant. I do have a laser level (see video on leveling mill bed) but they are not bright enough to read on a sunny day. A better setup would be something optical or using a single bright laser that you can run down the log to check.
@@Lumber_Jack I think you got just the right cut height there! I wonder if a $20 laser pointer would be bright enough, or what the price point would be ($100?) maybe you could mount a bracket on the housing at blade height and just swivel the pointer. I'm sure you will have lots of solutions there. Thanks for sharing! I like watching what you created!
Would like to see you talk about the how you setup the lumber scale and how you it is used. I sometimes have trouble getting mine to land on the mark on the scale I am wanting.
That's a great idea for a video, be glad to do it. There is a lot of complexity in those scales, which is good if you can take advantage of it but bad if it gets in the way.
That is the nicest shed and wooden stand setup that I have seen.
Thanks I like your presentation very well.what is the costof this machine.thanks
See: woodlandmills.com/ for pricing/etc.
very nice set up
awesome review am in the market for a mill for some property im going to be building on next year that is loaded with trees and this mill looks like its has a lot of good features for the price
Just got an HM 122. Less than five hours on it.
It looks like you put an extension on the water drip. I have the adjustable guide. Water comes out a zerk fitting and, if flow is not set high, it dribbles and doesn't reach the blade. I added a short extension, too.
First cuts were green coastal redwood. Band box filled with wet sawdust. I cut the bars out of the sawdust exhaust port. Problem solved.
I didn't like having to screw the knob completely out and set it down to open the doors. I changed the hole to a slot. Loosen the knob a little and doors open.
I got a bad winch. It worked well for a couple of hours, then took progressively more force to crank the head down. I measured 25 pounds at the crank vs about 10 to crank it up. WM is sending a new winch. Meanwhile, I opened mine up, sprayed the clutch disks with silicone, and put it back together. I drilled a small hole in the bottom of the case so I can spray more silicone in now and then if needed. Works fine now. Still ten pounds to crank up, but now only 11 pounds to crank down.
I noticed you use the pin to hold blade height. Does your winch not hold steady without using the pin?
I put my base on the ground so I won't have to buy a tractor to lift logs. How do you get logs onto your mill?
You mentioned the advantage of not having to bend over, but I see you bent over to watch the cut. I find it easier to walk in front of the mill, pulling it with my left hand. Easier to watch the cut and easy on my back.
I hadn't thought of rotating the starter for better pull direction. It's on my list for tomorrow.
Thanks for the review. The starter suggestion by Matthew Prestine alone made watching worth my time.
My winch also began to feel tight on the way down after about 4-5 hours, and just like you I cured it with silicone spray. Had to spray it a couple days in a row, and it's been good since, so I guess the silicone worked into wherever it needed to go.
I don't know that I need to use the index pin to lock in the height, but it's habit for me to always go down past my mark, then crank up to put tension on the cable and set the pin to hold the tension. Leads to very repeatable cuts and no risk of engine vibrations causing the clutch or cable to slip.
I use forks on my tractor (2014 Kubota L3200) to lift logs onto the mill, then I usually leave the tractor parked there to offload cutoffs and boards right back onto the forks and take them away after sawing. I couldn't live without the tractor, both for skidding logs out of the woods and moving them to the mill.
Where the base height helps my back is when lifting boards off the mill and adjusting the posts, clamps, etc while sawing. There is a lot of fiddling when you saw and the less I have to bend for that the better. I sawed 120 siding boards a few weeks ago, and that would have wrecked my back if I was bending over to take every board off.
Great idea to walk in front and pull the mill -- I need to try that!
Jack, I see a lot of guys using the pressure treated lumber as a base. Keep in mind that it will change shape dramatically as it dries so check your base for level daily until it's stabilized or you'll transfer those warps up to your cut.
Agree 100%, and it's as bad as green lumber in my experience (maybe worse). I just noticed a change as our weather flipped over to spring and plan to run a string down the bunks to re-level everything before my next big project.
@@Lumber_Jack I'm in the prep stages, awaiting our mill. I'm going to be using felled eastern cedar beams that have been dry for years. Will be treating them with several coats of Tung oil to keep the humidity absorbtion down. Hopefully this does the trick. I checked on buying some 6x6 angle iron and the price of steel was outrageous.
What are your thoughts on using cinder blocks, or something else?
I saw another video where the guy poured his own concrete slab, but that really lowered the work area. I like the height of yours...
Maybe watching level is not so bad to get this height.
Nice to see in real time, thank you!
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Thanks for show to us so many details.
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What a great review. Learned a lot. Thank you.
After alot of research and comparing my options, Just decided today to order my HM122. Thanks for the review. I really like your set up. Wondering if it is possible to share info on it as I plan to use a similar setup
Am interested this HM122 mill, may I have a quotation which includes the sharpening/ teethSetting kit.
Very interesting video. I enjoyed watching it. Take care and God Bless.
Great review and demonstration. Many thanks.....
God Bless (us all)
On my left pulley the belt is rubbing against the steal and causing it to deteriorate. Any suggestions to repair this issue?
Thanks so much for this video. Very helpful to us. Husband and I currently comparing models/companies and will eventually buy soon.
Could someone tell me what the little pieces of cables on the guide wheels are for (at 14:44)?
To keep sawdust cleaned out of the wheel groove.
Nice mill. I really like the base you built for it. I see so many people running a mill basically on the ground. My back hurts watching it lol. Very nice setup. Thanks
Can you ship Pine logs to overseas? Or can you ship 2*4 to outside of America I want to buy building
Great video! I just have one question. How do you cut within an inch of the deck as stated in the description of the machine? 🤔🤔
Really no different than cutting higher. You just need to be able to hold/clamp the wood properly, regardless of blade height. The lowest I have gone with the standard posts is about 3/4".
Great review.
The only trouble with it is that now Will they sell so many, that the delivering time Will be much delayed cause the succes. Now I wan't one too. 😉👍🏾 Today I bought an old chainsaw to make into a sawmill a very powerfull Jonsered 80, but I like this sawmill of Your's a lot, thank's to Your rerview. And a very nice and clever setup - stand, shelter, etc. Made with so much sence and care.
In My opinion they have to offer You this sawmill for free, cause the very good commerciel value of Your video. 👍🏾 🌹🌹🌹Thank's a lot. 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Great video I have the same sawmill and have been impressed.
I just purchased a hm 122 after watching your video and will be happy with it I'm sure if I can keep the blade from jumping off. I have set the tracking I have set the guides with a thick piece of paper and also the bearing behind the blade. I also turn the wheel many turns before starting the Engine to watch and see how it is running. Blade is running 3/8 inch in front of band wheel and just enough to feel a little on the back of band wheel. But have not been able to finish the first little buck eye log yet. I'm sure I'm missing something but not sure what so thought you might have an idea. Guess woodland mills is very busy now and has not answered my call or called me back. Thanks for any input
Some people run into issues because they are running too much water and it causes the blade to hydroplane off the wheels. Should only be about 1-2 drips per second. If it runs OK when spun by hand and when cutting dry, but jumps off when cutting with water, then that's the problem.
Try posting on their facebook customer group -- facebook.com/groups/woodlandmills -- you'll have a bunch of other owners to give suggestions in addition to WM folks.
While spinning by hand, can you tell if the blade is wandering off center on one of the wheels more than the other? That is the first clue it's a tracking issue. Rarely you might need to adjust the drive wheel tracking if that is the root cause.
Thanks for your reply. The water could be my problem will try that. Thanks for the fast reply. And also I'm very impressed with your set up there!
The water was the problem. Thanks again! and I did just order more new blades from woodmizer 0.042 x 1.25 x 125 . 15 blades for 250.16 shipped to the door
What have you found to be the longest log you can mill with the extension?
According to WM specs it's 17'. I've never done more than 16' but 17' seems possible.
Hi Lumber Jack, i'm looking to buy one of their mill but i'm hesitating for the size. 22" or 26". Can you tell me where is the 22" limit? is it between the the 2 blade guides? Thanks for your help.
It is, but practically speaking it can be difficult to clamp that size log onto the bed. You lose a couple inches of practical capacity on all the mills just due to log handling and clamping.
Ok thanks for the super quick feedback. I'll probably try to go with the 26 then... I have big logs and they are not as straight as the one on your mill.
Great Video. It's obvious you take care of your equipment. Nice shed, nice cleanup. Loved it! 💛
Great video.
Very nice set up
I'm hoping to get one by the end of this year and when I do ill have a box store worth's of wood because I have a lot of free time so I would be making wood for everything!
Are those lifting loops on top of the traveling assembly so a person could use a loader to lift it & carry it inside?
The lift points can be used to lift the trolley onto the track during initial assembly. I would not want to do it regularly as it will likely throw the trolley out of alignment and require repeating the shakedown / alignment step.
Ok, thanks
LJ, how do you stop surface rust getting over yr saw and rails etc. I know its under a roof but humidity and side rain can still ruin it.
Has not been an issue so far. I always blow all sawdust off the bed/rails, saw head, trolley, and inside cabinet with a leaf blower at the end of each day, since that can be corrosive and will trap moisture. That's probably the most important thing you can do. And I keep a loose fitting grill cover (amzn.to/3tAtrOI $25 on Amazon) over the saw head and trolley when not being used. The blade would be the most likely part to rust first, and I've never seen any rust on my blades. So that tells me things are staying pretty well protected and dry.
Very informative review. Thank you.
Is there a laser accessory for this so you can sight the log easier? I’m new to this and I’m just starting to shop around
Some people do add an aftermarket line laser to help aiming the cuts. Here's a good video: th-cam.com/video/FPiF7CJSpzA/w-d-xo.html
Great video!
where can i get some leg stands like the one you have? and what are they called? ( @12:43 )
How do you get the logs up onto your 29 inch high setup? The cost of heavy equipment is prohibitive for me.
Tractor with forks. I would not want to run a timber operation and sawmill without a tractor.
@@Lumber_Jack it would have to be a big tractor.
Jack, I heard about a half hour a log??? Say either 2 inch or 1 inch thickness by 12 or 16 ft??? What do you think???
I can't say I have paid good attention to time, but it varies from log to log for sure. The main thing I notice is how much lumber I can make in a day, and it's always a remarkable amount. These mills can be very productive.
What do you do with the wood after it’s cut? Do you let it dry more?
Depends on the use. Many projects can be built with green lumber, but for others the wood needs to dry for 6-12 months or more.
How does this get delivered on your property? Website says curbside... Is that the case or can they place somewhere on property? Thanks.
I like your shed design. Could you attach some pics of the front and back header attachments to the poles? Looks like it is very open and spacious.
Check out this new video, it shows a few shots of the attachment plates (I used scrap diamond plate and 1/2" bolts): th-cam.com/video/jtYVJvffQYY/w-d-xo.html
Great Video! My wife is insisting we build our base and shed just like yours! Very nice setup!
Would you be so kind and divulge what brand or where you sourced your cant hook?
Thanks!!!
Great question!! That cant hook is about 15 years old. I got it (via mail order) from Peavey Manufacturing up in Maine. In case that name sounds familiar, it's because that is the company that first invented this type of tool, which is often nicknamed "Peavey" when set up with a pointy tip. Their website is at: peaveymfg.com and they make their products in the USA and ship . I also have their bark spud and a couple other tools.
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Thank you very much! Found it on Amazon.
The shape of the hook is what caught my eye. ALL the other hooks are made with more bow in the spine but less back angle on the point, where this one is straight with more back angle on the point. Actually allows it to bite larger logs with a smaller profile.
There is one major difference between your 15 year old cant and the contemporary version....the timber jack feature. I'm not sure how I feel about that, might remove it totally. The clean look (and function) of the older one is very nice.
Well again, thank you for sharing the source! I just received my mill yesterday so soon I will be setting up and going at it!!!!