@@EliSteph27 lol really lol and no. That's you're opinion and vibe but when you compare everything you clearly see who is on top,and that's Em. I spend 12 ours month ago to read so many stuff,to compare music, impact's, beat's,beffs, features,cadence,bending words, rhyme schemes... man 12 ours and it's clear as a day that Em is the one
@@sasasundic3236 white boy vibez you are apart of kkk you believe white people need to colonerize hip hop that black people made. im high right now and when i am high you sound like a 12 year kid you fell like the world evolves around you Loll
He's a rapper's rapper but also the audiences rapper. He's everyone's rapper. To me he's a blanks blank, is that phrases typically used to describe someone who is adored by their peers but under appreciated by the audience.
Let’s rewind to the era where Em first started. Rap music was dominated by content about bitches, drugs, gangs, money, cars, and guns. Eminem came on the scene and took an entirely different approach - something completely unique... A creative storytelling style similar to movie writers. Some of it was inspired by real life, and some of it was fiction. And he didn’t stick to just one genre, he brought it with comedy (including the self deprecating approach), with horror (serial killers, etc) , and with drama (his upbringing and challenges). So of course he didn’t resonate with the average rap listener. He didn’t rap about what people were accustomed to hearing rappers rap about. But what it did do was expand the boundaries of rap both geographically and content-wise. He literally helped make rap bigger, literally and figuratively.
Fact's. For example the part of the world where I live, before Eminem came out we knew about Pac,Wu tang ang Biggie, that's it,and they all we're making the song's about hoes, cars,drugs... Same content. But when Eminem came out people connected with his song's,some people find themselves in it and we all start to listen him,and then we start to search another rappers from America and bring the rap to whole different level. And that's how it happened all over the world, rappers became idols and then came much more money, respect,power and everything.
What songs of his does he really do storytelling in tho? That’s my one knock on Eminem. He’s not as descriptive and poetic as someone like Nas, who I think is the greatest emcee to do it
@@sumwonkool Love it or hate it my underdog's on top. Every song that he wants to be is storytelling. How can people connect with his song's if it's not storytelling,and (world started to connect with rap when he came)if they can't relate to something on their own. He's one of the 3 and that's just fact's. It has a lot of racist that don't love him because of colour. Imagine if white people don't listen and love Kendrick, Bysta,Snoop,Wayne,50,Nas... How would they be so rich and powerful. Like 50 said there's no Lamborghini s and Ferrari s to buy without consumer base. Em is top 5 of almost every aspect of hip hop game and there's no one who is top 5 in every aspects exept him.Rakim is really one the pioneer's and one of the greatest and "If Em was black he would be the next Mohammed Ali".-Rakim.
@@slegs-snaaks-inhoud while I do enjoy some of those songs, those are all personal accounts about emotional events and thoughts in his life. That’s the issue with most of his songs, All written in 1st person. Creative storytelling is told in 2nd and 3rd person points of view. I don’t wanna hear someone tell their life’s story about anguish and pain and anger all the time. And that’s 90% of Eminem’s music from 2005-2020
Is he the BEST? Yes. Wordplay, rhyming, punchlines, reach world wide, storytelling, funny song, motivation, selling numbers... Eminem is the best in any category you want to mesure it.
What songs of his does he really do storytelling in tho? That’s my one knock on Eminem. He’s not as descriptive and poetic as someone like Nas, who I think is the greatest emcee to do it
@@sumwonkool greatest song of all time, stan. But, as the world turn, bad guy, darkness, 97 bonnie and klyde, kim, stay wide awake, music box, brain damage, dejau, my darlong, brainless, almost famous, ground hog day. Just some of the top of my head
@@linkinminor10 I do. Voice is prolly the biggest level of criteria and in that regard, and I’m not alone on this, Eminem’s voice can come off as annoying and high pitched. Sometimes whiny or nasally, and his singing on choruses can be unappealing also. To me that is why I choose Nas because I feel like he has the best voice all around. Smooth deep sounding. And I’m not hating on Eminem either cuz I’m a big fan of his style but there have been several albums of his I cannot listen to based off his voice and accents, and Singh choruses. Again my opinion tho
You know what makes Eminem so dope? The man is a recluse, he doesn't really have much of life to pull from the way he once did. So for him to still have albums worth of material 20 years later, and it still be fresh, needs to be commended.
He has said this 1000 times 1000 different ways. Infact that's practically a quote from him. People don't understand there's nothing to draw from anymore. Props to ya
He is the greatest of all time in my eyes. How many people really rapped their own truth, insecurities, and really put all of their dirty laundry out for people to hear at the time, 25 years ago. He’s put on for so many artists, 10 diamond, soon to be 11 albums.
When MGK dissed Eminem, everybody was prepared to check out Eminem’s response. Not like us is hyped yes but killshot broke records. Anything Eminem related will always catch someone’s attention because every time the man spits it’s a whole atmosphere.
The approach you had to this topic of discussion is the best by far, in my opinion. Always on the edge of my seat when it comes to anticipation for what Em has to say.
That was one solid argument you gave just there, even if im not Eminem's number one fan and shit, i do check out when hes a featured artist what dude has to say, i won't ever skip a track he's on... So yeah, you correct in that
Yes he is the greatest of all time he'll Kanye even said it himself coz he knows Em checks all them boxes and Dre said it also and he said ofc there's gonn be debate coz he's a white guy and honestly I agree Em is the goat period hands down
Yes he is the🐐 with all those sales and records and that insane technical ability but people out there prefer to hate him anyways and specially now a days i feel bad for em 🫠
Eminem is the GOAT!!! He has put in more than enough time to prove what he's got in talent and respect for the culture. 25 YEARS!!! Em has never done this for the money. He does it for the love of rap.
I think Em could be the goat cause he's the only rapper that has the whole package... he's one of the best lyricists, one of the most skilled as a rapper, one of the most influential and impactful, one of the most succesfull, he inspired many new generation rappers, he got crazy longevity and like you said he is still relevant even so many years after his prime but unfortunately many people won't admit it because he's white
If his voice was better, which I personally don't mind most of the time, he would easily check every box. Some songs he sounds great on, usually angrier ones.
Longevity is part of it too and there's very few people that have that longevity and have been able to stay relevant during different evolutions of the music. People like Jay-Z I never understood how they were number one to begin with. Jay-Z hasn't been relevant in years and in my opinion has had very few club bangers maybe four. Even Nas hasn't stayed very relevant or been that great in a very long time. To me it's Eminem Tupac Lil Wayne
Even outside of his lyrical abilities, the person he is to his city and his listeners is rare in Hiphop. I hate how hypocritical we are when it comes to skin color.
Ill make it simple. EVERY big reaction channel on YT got big because they started to cover Eminem songs. Even some that later changed the style of their channel. No life shaq, wouldnt be the biggest reaction channel if he did not use Em. This is the result of Em's impact.
Yeah, when it comes to these reaction channels, I always try to see which ones are genuine fans. The only one I watch who I believe really is an actual Eminem fan is a girl with the TH-cam name Indian Queen or something like that. She actually had physical copies of Eminem albums in her crib.
@@Megahustla313rd I belive there are other genuine fans. Knox, Stevie, Blu, Josh the realest, Cliff beats, scriptwork. and honestly few more others. Even thoughsome stopped reacting to him, or changed the style of their channel, doesnt mean they are not true fans. Says more on YT policies if anything.
There are so many categories of rap. We have the lyricists like Black Thought, Aesop Rock, Rakim and Em sits on the mountain top with the best of the best. We have fast rappers like Twista, Krayzie Bone, Tech9 and Em killed Tech on Speedom. We have technical attacks were I have yet to see anyone doing something that comes close to the ludacris stuff Em does. We have MCing which the 2 best to ever do it are probably DMX and Busta but Em really has the crowd going crazy every time he comes on stage. Storytelling, Horror core, paying homage, hoping on features with the greatest at that time and even political stuff. He did it all and he did it at the highest level. Ofc he never did the hustle style or did a lot of club bangers because its not his thing. But in the things he did he stood out. He is the GOAT if we look at it objectively. Even when it comes to influence hes probably the second biggest influence in HipHop after Pac because he brought the whole world in. He doesn't have to be your favourite but put respect on the effort this man puts into his craft.
Eminem destroyed every track he’s on has saved so many terrible tracks. Has mad respect for black people is not racist. One hell of a man one hell of a father. He is the best to ever do it with Dre’s help always been a fan since infinite.True legend G.O.A.T July 12 new album drops let’s get it
I do love seeing folks talk unironically of Eminem "stans" without realising he's the sole reason that word even exists in English (a portmanteau of "psychotic" and "fan"), including the prestigious Oxford English Dictionary. At some point haters have got to just give a man his props, surely? 🤷♂️
He was washing dishes to feed his family while pursuing his love of rap. Not getting involved with illegal stuff to keep the wolf from the door. That takes some dedication. He went through so much, it was life or death for him. He has earned his place. It is his culture. It is where he grew up.
Messi has the stats to back him up ...but we watch him for the way he plays .....eminem got the stats to back him up ...but we listen to him for the way he raps 🙌🏼
Eminem recognizes greatness and he appreciates the music industry and where he's at, that's what makes him one of the greatest, he's acknowledged those before him...
Man bro you covered every aspect of what people need to recognize about EM...TOP 5 ..TOP 10 IS SUBJECTIVE....my favorite emcee is method man n love black thought n love redman...but eminem is on a whole different level because his style is his style and haters can't take that away from him
He is. He will always be the greatest of all time because he managed to blur the lines between meaningful storytelling and spitting a verse that makes you go "damn" and somehow every word of his is both of those things at the same time. He was just a man who wanted to tell a story and he found what he was the best at, and he used it to tell his story. I think a very unique and good example of his capabilities is a song called Ridaz. Not sure if you know of it but he describes a bar fight. Please check it out. Listening to it makes you understand that this is not just rap. This is a story, its like listening to a ballad like Saddle Tramp or Big Iron by Marty Robbins but very very well written (no offence to Marty Robbins). The competence of this man to uphold every principle of the rap culture, every principle of a good storytelling according to literature, and coming up with the best of stories that may or may not be inspired from his own life, THAT is what makes you wait for what he has to say. You WANT to listen to a good story and you know that you are about to witness one of the greatest storytellers of all time work his magic.
This is an instant classic.. funny enough mostly pre written articles have been released but the reception of the album has been so great they’re all alone on hater island 😂
Has a brown person YES eminem is a 🐐he is one of the greatest rapper we ever had...people just hating cuz the white boy does it better than black artist.......we sound be lucky to have som of the OGs till now......stop this hate and show them OGs respect🙌💯.....
With any skill if someone is the best at it, you can hate him his craft or dislike his skin color like a racist but if your the best you are the best. With entertainment it might be a bit different as it should also be enjoyable but to simply disregard his skills because you like club hip hop or whatever is very ignorant. People also forget about the many verses of absolute classics he wrote for Dre and other artists, if you go over that list if you havent youll be truly flabbergasted. And what I find sad is that if a black person would become the goat in a more white dominated proffesion they will be applouded for overcomming the status quo, instead of acting biggoted towards him.
Great take my brotha. I'm 39 years of age from one of the hugest hip hop influenced cities, Houston Texas. I started listening to EM in middle school, with the drop of Slim Shady LP after "My Name Is". I immediately gravitated towards his unique rhyme style in the realm of multisyllabic rapping. In Houston, that concept was never explored to that degree. We used to beat on classroom and lunchroom tables with a pen and or pencil mimicking our favorite song instrumentals whilst freestyling in a group, going "back doo". So learning the intricacies of word play was presented at a young age. Whenever I used to revere Eminem as the CURRENT "best" in that regard at the time, people thought I was crazy because of our cities cultureof music. But after album after album (regardless of the content being produced) he has remained amongst the top in the realm of hip hop, not just multisyllabic rhyming, but double, triple and even quadruple entendres. It's impossible to deny that his rhyming scheme is short of anything AMAZING. Whatever the skin color or ethnicity he has proven himself standout above the crowd. Hip hop oriented on LYRICISM. That form has been lost. Sells, popularity, streams are irrelevant when it comes down to the true form of the ORIGINAL art. I appreciate your take on this and am now subscribed to your channel good sir. 💪🏾 long post... OVER.
The fact that he’s even mentioned in goat discussions should say everything. There’s no other white rapper that’s ever mentioned when there are goat discussions
Whatever youd rate in rap, Em is in top 5 the best in it, the only exception is skin colour lol. Story telling? Top 5 (1imo) Lirycism? Top 5 (1imo) Flows? Top 5 (1imo - main reason i love listening to him) Culture expansion? Top 1 - that's not even a conversation. Numbers? Top 1 Putting people on? Top 1 Appreciation for the culture? Top 1 Music you listen in a hood(worldwide)? Probably top 5 Club music? Ok not often you hear it but if you do, the club is going crazy at least from my experience.
As a die hard fan & student of hip hop for over 30 years I do think Eminem is one of the greatest ever, he may not be the Goat tho imo. To me he is not a gifted storyteller or poet much like Nas is. Nas can paint pictures with his words so eloquently and has been doing it since the early 90s. His first two albums are some of the greatest masterpieces in hip hop history. So in my humble opinion I think Nas is the GOAT. Followed closely behind him is Eminem, Rakim, Black Thought, GZA, Mos Def, Guru from Gangstarr, Slug from Atmosphere, and of course 2pac. And a personal white rapper favorite of mine who could challenge Em I think is RA the Rugged Man. He is a gifted lyricist, punchline master and d storyteller. If you haven’t heard his last two albums you are really missing out on one of the greatest rappers all time, underground or not he’s up there with those I mentioned. Great video tho, Peace and love
YOU EXPLAINED THAT SO WELL. IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RAPPER YOU LIKE EMINEM YOU LIKE THE WAY HE DOES HIS DOUBLE TRIPLE ENTENDER'S! WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING EMINEM I'VE NEVER EVER HEARD ANYONE SAY IT THE WAY YOU DID. DO YOU HAVE A TH-cam CHANNEL, WITH ANY OF YOU RAPS??? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I HEARD IT EXPLAINED THAT WAY 🤟🏼
@@DebDoll thank you so much! I really appreciate that! Yes some of my music is on this channel and more can be found on Spotify under Jon Jeremy! Peace and Love!
Shake that … smack that … and there’s one more that are easy club bangers even heard him at the club on 4th of July . So be quiet . Easy Goat . Check his 1996 first song on album called infinite that was Goat already for that era and even amazing now !
You have people that have been trying to knock him off his pedestal and he’s still the goat but of course he had to earn that title and he moved some of the others to the side to make it the way it is now and he deserves it
For real there's none Eminem has been nothing but real with you not many rappers talk about their life on record but EM does and even go as much as to make it funny in any way possible
You gotta check out Jam Wayne. He snuck in the rap genre and taking it over. He's literally white 2Pac. Even tho he county as hell, you'll keep him in your playlists. My favorite song is "Ready".
Eminem IS A GOAT....but he's not THE GOAT. I'm not sure who the goat is...and I'm really not sure anyone is the #1 goat. Also, Eminem is too busy playing massive arenas and getting radio play...the club scene is small for Eminem...and they do play his music in the clubs so i never got why people said they dont play him in clubs. I love your take and I agree. I just honestly feel that people have too many different preferences so it's very hard to say there's one goat. I think there's a handful of goats in hipop/rap based off the subgenre.... Eminem could be the goat of his certain styles...but Kendrick could be the goat of his styles... same with Wayne and more. Eminem I believe is the highest selling rapper of all time...ever over Tupac and biggie...but I can't personally say he's the goat of hiphop because there are too many different sub genres where others won't place Eminem as a goat. For example...who's better in the Chicago drill scene...King Von(rip) ...fbg duck.. or eminem? The styles are so different that eminem is definitely not a goat in the drill scene. Eminem is a goat in multiple sub genres of hiphop...and just maybe it makes him the actual goat of goats...but its impossible to prove since sooooo many people have different tastes
Hey Dude - I Followed Eminem From His First Album Produced by Dr Dre, I Never Even Picked Up On The Fact Other People Felt This Problem Him Not Being Black like The rest Of The Rap/Hip-Hop Artists That You've Said been around longer. Later On When The Collaberations Were Like Ice Cube Snoop Dmx Biggie And Pac... is basically 27 years of listening to him and yeah i totally agree Eminem is The Goat Of The Hiphop/Rap scene hit me back pwete
Even though technical skills aren't the end all be all, that should still be part of the conversation. Eminem is the best, technically. But he also is one of the best story tellers. He also has some of the most creative concepts. He never pretended to be gangsta to fit in and ended up carving his own lane because his artistry wasn't like anyone else's. The love he has for the culture is UNDENIABLE. His skin color should be irrelevant. He shows nothing but respect for those that paved the way AND his peers (I feel like a lot of people miss that part). The fact that people still try to label him a "culture vulture" is the dumbest shit. And, for better or worse, he's had the greatest influence. Without Em, we don't get Kendrick, Big Sean, Logic, Hopsin, and arguably 50 Cent or Royce
Eminem is in my top 20 of all time as an artist. However, if I based that on skills alone, he'd easily be in my top 5. He's a monster. Now you'd wonder if I contradicted myself. Nope. Skills alone isn't the only criteria I use to judge an artist. An artist with skill level A that only raps about a few things for example, doesn't rank as high as one of skill level B that touches a whole range of issues in meaningful depth. Also, the style I respect the most has to be one that I could listen to when I'm like 80 years old. I.e one that sounds very mature. To summarize; Eminem is in my top 5, if not top 3 in terms of putting words together in a clever manner. Overall, he's in my top 20 and at times I put pressure on myself to include him in my top 10 just cause of that high skill level. Whenever he drops, I listen to Eminem for signs that his style has evolved into something very mature. If that evolution ever takes place and he drops a few albums with it, I'd easily have him in my top 5 if not number 1.
Eminem is one of the greatest because he looks at rapping like it's a martial art. Like how Ip man looks at wing Chun or Bruce Lee Jeet kune do . Rapping is a direct reflect of how one's brain is wired. That's why ghostwriting is severely frowned upon in Rapping. That's why Eminem will always be one of the greatest because he sees rapping for what it is. A martial art of the mentality. And make no mistake,he is a 5th degree. black belt.
Eminem is the goat, especially because he’s white because everybody hates on him and he still the goat everybody copies his style his flow he’s over 50 and making better music than almost everybody
Its a culmination of things. Sales, skills/technicalities, body of work, longevity and influence are great indicators of greatness which Em is at the very top of every one of those aspects. People make the excuse that he's white, and thats the only reason he is popular have a huge flaw in their argument. If that were the case, every white rapper would be considerd a GOAT. The only reason they can't put him at the undisputed GOAT position is because he isn't black. The so called culture cant accept a white man being the best at the genre they say they created.
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Eminem is the best to ever touch the mic
Don’t ever doubt it my dawg 🔥🔥🔥🔥
nah i say kendrick lamar and J cole
@@EliSteph27 lol no
@@EliSteph27 lol really lol and no. That's you're opinion and vibe but when you compare everything you clearly see who is on top,and that's Em. I spend 12 ours month ago to read so many stuff,to compare music, impact's, beat's,beffs, features,cadence,bending words, rhyme schemes... man 12 ours and it's clear as a day that Em is the one
@@sasasundic3236 white boy vibez you are apart of kkk you believe white people need to colonerize hip hop that black people made. im high right now and when i am high you sound like a 12 year kid you fell like the world evolves around you Loll
the fact that Em checks all the boxes out there makes him the real GOAT
This.
Allllll the boxes
Yes 🙌🏾 thee goat 🐐
He doesn't though
Not a great storyteller or lyricist like Nas is. The way Nas paints pictures with his words is unmatched imo
Eminem is undeniably the GOAT.
Been saying the same thing for years. Eminem is a rapper’s rapper.
He's a rapper's rapper but also the audiences rapper. He's everyone's rapper. To me he's a blanks blank, is that phrases typically used to describe someone who is adored by their peers but under appreciated by the audience.
He's the best to ever touch a mic and has ripped every rapper out there on their own tracks
Let’s rewind to the era where Em first started. Rap music was dominated by content about bitches, drugs, gangs, money, cars, and guns. Eminem came on the scene and took an entirely different approach - something completely unique... A creative storytelling style similar to movie writers. Some of it was inspired by real life, and some of it was fiction. And he didn’t stick to just one genre, he brought it with comedy (including the self deprecating approach), with horror (serial killers, etc) , and with drama (his upbringing and challenges). So of course he didn’t resonate with the average rap listener. He didn’t rap about what people were accustomed to hearing rappers rap about. But what it did do was expand the boundaries of rap both geographically and content-wise. He literally helped make rap bigger, literally and figuratively.
Fact's. For example the part of the world where I live, before Eminem came out we knew about Pac,Wu tang ang Biggie, that's it,and they all we're making the song's about hoes, cars,drugs... Same content. But when Eminem came out people connected with his song's,some people find themselves in it and we all start to listen him,and then we start to search another rappers from America and bring the rap to whole different level. And that's how it happened all over the world, rappers became idols and then came much more money, respect,power and everything.
What songs of his does he really do storytelling in tho? That’s my one knock on Eminem. He’s not as descriptive and poetic as someone like Nas, who I think is the greatest emcee to do it
@@sumwonkool Love it or hate it my underdog's on top. Every song that he wants to be is storytelling. How can people connect with his song's if it's not storytelling,and (world started to connect with rap when he came)if they can't relate to something on their own. He's one of the 3 and that's just fact's. It has a lot of racist that don't love him because of colour. Imagine if white people don't listen and love Kendrick, Bysta,Snoop,Wayne,50,Nas... How would they be so rich and powerful. Like 50 said there's no Lamborghini s and Ferrari s to buy without consumer base. Em is top 5 of almost every aspect of hip hop game and there's no one who is top 5 in every aspects exept him.Rakim is really one the pioneer's and one of the greatest and "If Em was black he would be the next Mohammed Ali".-Rakim.
@@sumwonkoolmockingbird, headlights,arose,when I'm gone ,insane,brain damage......
@@slegs-snaaks-inhoud while I do enjoy some of those songs, those are all personal accounts about emotional events and thoughts in his life. That’s the issue with most of his songs, All written in 1st person. Creative storytelling is told in 2nd and 3rd person points of view. I don’t wanna hear someone tell their life’s story about anguish and pain and anger all the time. And that’s 90% of Eminem’s music from 2005-2020
When Eminem drops everyone tunes in the way everyone tuned in to a Michael Jackson MTV video premiere. Fans and haters together as a collective.
Yes he is
there is no debate .... thanks to EM for what u brought to hip hop
Is he the BEST?
Yes.
Wordplay, rhyming, punchlines, reach world wide, storytelling, funny song, motivation, selling numbers...
Eminem is the best in any category you want to mesure it.
What songs of his does he really do storytelling in tho? That’s my one knock on Eminem. He’s not as descriptive and poetic as someone like Nas, who I think is the greatest emcee to do it
@@sumwonkool greatest song of all time, stan.
But, as the world turn, bad guy, darkness, 97 bonnie and klyde, kim, stay wide awake, music box, brain damage, dejau, my darlong, brainless, almost famous, ground hog day.
Just some of the top of my head
Oscar for best original soundtrack as well
@@sumwonkoolbut I think the question is who is the goat rapper, and not who's the goat poet, right? You have to consider other criteria beside poetry
@@linkinminor10 I do. Voice is prolly the biggest level of criteria and in that regard, and I’m not alone on this, Eminem’s voice can come off as annoying and high pitched. Sometimes whiny or nasally, and his singing on choruses can be unappealing also. To me that is why I choose Nas because I feel like he has the best voice all around. Smooth deep sounding. And I’m not hating on Eminem either cuz I’m a big fan of his style but there have been several albums of his I cannot listen to based off his voice and accents, and Singh choruses. Again my opinion tho
You know what makes Eminem so dope? The man is a recluse, he doesn't really have much of life to pull from the way he once did. So for him to still have albums worth of material 20 years later, and it still be fresh, needs to be commended.
He has said this 1000 times 1000 different ways. Infact that's practically a quote from him. People don't understand there's nothing to draw from anymore. Props to ya
I've been saying a similar thing for years. Your definitely on point with this comment 😊
He is the greatest of all time in my eyes. How many people really rapped their own truth, insecurities, and really put all of their dirty laundry out for people to hear at the time, 25 years ago. He’s put on for so many artists, 10 diamond, soon to be 11 albums.
When MGK dissed Eminem, everybody was prepared to check out Eminem’s response. Not like us is hyped yes but killshot broke records. Anything Eminem related will always catch someone’s attention because every time the man spits it’s a whole atmosphere.
Yea. I think that killshot had 37 milion listeners in first 24 hour's. Who's goona brake that in rap?
More rappers need to diss Eminem so. Eminem can always show Mumble rappers what real rap is about.
Rakim in an interview: “if Eminem was black, he’d be the Mohamed Ali of Hiphop”
With that being said, absolutely, Em is the goat!!
The approach you had to this topic of discussion is the best by far, in my opinion. Always on the edge of my seat when it comes to anticipation for what Em has to say.
That was one solid argument you gave just there, even if im not Eminem's number one fan and shit, i do check out when hes a featured artist what dude has to say, i won't ever skip a track he's on... So yeah, you correct in that
Yes he is the greatest of all time he'll Kanye even said it himself coz he knows Em checks all them boxes and Dre said it also and he said ofc there's gonn be debate coz he's a white guy and honestly I agree Em is the goat period hands down
“ I’m not saying Eminem is better than everybody, but there’s really *NOBODY* *BETTER* than *EMINEM* “
🐐💐
I see somebody been watching Math Hoffa podcast
Yes he is the🐐 with all those sales and records and that insane technical ability but people out there prefer to hate him anyways and specially now a days i feel bad for em 🫠
Eminem = unicorn in human form 🦄
Eminem is the GOAT!!!
He has put in more than enough time to prove what he's got in talent and respect for the culture. 25 YEARS!!!
Em has never done this for the money. He does it for the love of rap.
Bruh Eminem is dropping a new album right...
And I'm already fugging excited for his NEXT...
JUST SAYING...
I think Em could be the goat cause he's the only rapper that has the whole package...
he's one of the best lyricists, one of the most skilled as a rapper, one of the most influential and impactful, one of the most succesfull, he inspired many new generation rappers, he got crazy longevity and like you said he is still relevant even so many years after his prime but unfortunately many people won't admit it because he's white
If his voice was better, which I personally don't mind most of the time, he would easily check every box. Some songs he sounds great on, usually angrier ones.
Longevity is part of it too and there's very few people that have that longevity and have been able to stay relevant during different evolutions of the music. People like Jay-Z I never understood how they were number one to begin with. Jay-Z hasn't been relevant in years and in my opinion has had very few club bangers maybe four. Even Nas hasn't stayed very relevant or been that great in a very long time. To me it's Eminem Tupac Lil Wayne
Eminem has always owned that titled and will continue to do so. Eminem been the GOAT even from the womb.
Eminem is the GOAT 🐐🐐 he's the number 1 rapper of all time.
Even Kanye West said it on an interview, he said Eminem is the number 1 rapper of all time
Eminem 🐐🐐🐐 here in India
Eminem is the best there ever was or will be.. His intricacies that a lot of people don’t even realize is insane!!!
Even outside of his lyrical abilities, the person he is to his city and his listeners is rare in Hiphop. I hate how hypocritical we are when it comes to skin color.
Ill make it simple.
EVERY big reaction channel on YT got big because they started to cover Eminem songs.
Even some that later changed the style of their channel.
No life shaq, wouldnt be the biggest reaction channel if he did not use Em.
This is the result of Em's impact.
Yeah, when it comes to these reaction channels, I always try to see which ones are genuine fans.
The only one I watch who I believe really is an actual Eminem fan is a girl with the TH-cam name Indian Queen or something like that.
She actually had physical copies of Eminem albums in her crib.
@@Megahustla313rd
I belive there are other genuine fans.
Knox, Stevie, Blu, Josh the realest, Cliff beats, scriptwork. and honestly few more others.
Even thoughsome stopped reacting to him, or changed the style of their channel, doesnt mean they are not true fans. Says more on YT policies if anything.
There are so many categories of rap.
We have the lyricists like Black Thought, Aesop Rock, Rakim and Em sits on the mountain top with the best of the best.
We have fast rappers like Twista, Krayzie Bone, Tech9 and Em killed Tech on Speedom.
We have technical attacks were I have yet to see anyone doing something that comes close to the ludacris stuff Em does.
We have MCing which the 2 best to ever do it are probably DMX and Busta but Em really has the crowd going crazy every time he comes on stage.
Storytelling, Horror core, paying homage, hoping on features with the greatest at that time and even political stuff. He did it all and he did it at the highest level.
Ofc he never did the hustle style or did a lot of club bangers because its not his thing. But in the things he did he stood out. He is the GOAT if we look at it objectively.
Even when it comes to influence hes probably the second biggest influence in HipHop after Pac because he brought the whole world in. He doesn't have to be your favourite but put respect on the effort this man puts into his craft.
My son, when he was 8, says "He sounds like the other rappers little brother." I love Eminem, but the kid definitely had a point.
em is the G.O.A.T cant believe its still a debate
Yes he is the greatest 🐐
Respect. You words are needed to be heard.
Emintm is the Greatest of All Time 👏✊💪🐐.Greetings from Denmark
Eminem destroyed every track he’s on has saved so many terrible tracks. Has mad respect for black people is not racist. One hell of a man one hell of a father. He is the best to ever do it with Dre’s help always been a fan since infinite.True legend G.O.A.T July 12 new album drops let’s get it
Best to ever do it and when he’s gone there will never be another like him.
Easily goat 🐐 anyone who says he isn’t is str8 hating. Levels to this and em stands alone!
I do love seeing folks talk unironically of Eminem "stans" without realising he's the sole reason that word even exists in English (a portmanteau of "psychotic" and "fan"), including the prestigious Oxford English Dictionary. At some point haters have got to just give a man his props, surely? 🤷♂️
He was washing dishes to feed his family while pursuing his love of rap. Not getting involved with illegal stuff to keep the wolf from the door. That takes some dedication. He went through so much, it was life or death for him. He has earned his place. It is his culture. It is where he grew up.
id say he's the GOAT lyricist ..... his pen game is unmatched
Yes. Eminem is the greatest of all time ❤
By far, he is the GOAT 🐐
Messi has the stats to back him up ...but we watch him for the way he plays .....eminem got the stats to back him up ...but we listen to him for the way he raps 🙌🏼
Eminem recognizes greatness and he appreciates the music industry and where he's at, that's what makes him one of the greatest, he's acknowledged those before him...
Def the goat 🐐
Man bro you covered every aspect of what people need to recognize about EM...TOP 5 ..TOP 10 IS SUBJECTIVE....my favorite emcee is method man n love black thought n love redman...but eminem is on a whole different level because his style is his style and haters can't take that away from him
He is. He will always be the greatest of all time because he managed to blur the lines between meaningful storytelling and spitting a verse that makes you go "damn" and somehow every word of his is both of those things at the same time. He was just a man who wanted to tell a story and he found what he was the best at, and he used it to tell his story. I think a very unique and good example of his capabilities is a song called Ridaz. Not sure if you know of it but he describes a bar fight. Please check it out. Listening to it makes you understand that this is not just rap. This is a story, its like listening to a ballad like Saddle Tramp or Big Iron by Marty Robbins but very very well written (no offence to Marty Robbins). The competence of this man to uphold every principle of the rap culture, every principle of a good storytelling according to literature, and coming up with the best of stories that may or may not be inspired from his own life, THAT is what makes you wait for what he has to say. You WANT to listen to a good story and you know that you are about to witness one of the greatest storytellers of all time work his magic.
He is definitely one of them
Facts!!
Yes he is indeed, no one can do what he's done!
Preach! All hail the Great One!
This is an instant classic.. funny enough mostly pre written articles have been released but the reception of the album has been so great they’re all alone on hater island 😂
Has a brown person YES eminem is a 🐐he is one of the greatest rapper we ever had...people just hating cuz the white boy does it better than black artist.......we sound be lucky to have som of the OGs till now......stop this hate and show them OGs respect🙌💯.....
With any skill if someone is the best at it, you can hate him his craft or dislike his skin color like a racist but if your the best you are the best. With entertainment it might be a bit different as it should also be enjoyable but to simply disregard his skills because you like club hip hop or whatever is very ignorant. People also forget about the many verses of absolute classics he wrote for Dre and other artists, if you go over that list if you havent youll be truly flabbergasted.
And what I find sad is that if a black person would become the goat in a more white dominated proffesion they will be applouded for overcomming the status quo, instead of acting biggoted towards him.
I’d pick 2pac personally. His cadence and voice and the way he said things just hit your soul.
Great take my brotha. I'm 39 years of age from one of the hugest hip hop influenced cities, Houston Texas. I started listening to EM in middle school, with the drop of Slim Shady LP after "My Name Is". I immediately gravitated towards his unique rhyme style in the realm of multisyllabic rapping. In Houston, that concept was never explored to that degree. We used to beat on classroom and lunchroom tables with a pen and or pencil mimicking our favorite song instrumentals whilst freestyling in a group, going "back doo". So learning the intricacies of word play was presented at a young age. Whenever I used to revere Eminem as the CURRENT "best" in that regard at the time, people thought I was crazy because of our cities cultureof music. But after album after album (regardless of the content being produced) he has remained amongst the top in the realm of hip hop, not just multisyllabic rhyming, but double, triple and even quadruple entendres. It's impossible to deny that his rhyming scheme is short of anything AMAZING. Whatever the skin color or ethnicity he has proven himself standout above the crowd. Hip hop oriented on LYRICISM. That form has been lost. Sells, popularity, streams are irrelevant when it comes down to the true form of the ORIGINAL art. I appreciate your take on this and am now subscribed to your channel good sir. 💪🏾 long post... OVER.
🐐 Eminem 🐐 Much love✌️🫶
The fact that he’s even mentioned in goat discussions should say everything. There’s no other white rapper that’s ever mentioned when there are goat discussions
Yes. The best to ever do it.
Whatever youd rate in rap, Em is in top 5 the best in it, the only exception is skin colour lol.
Story telling? Top 5 (1imo)
Lirycism? Top 5 (1imo)
Flows? Top 5 (1imo - main reason i love listening to him)
Culture expansion? Top 1 - that's not even a conversation.
Numbers? Top 1
Putting people on? Top 1
Appreciation for the culture? Top 1
Music you listen in a hood(worldwide)? Probably top 5
Club music? Ok not often you hear it but if you do, the club is going crazy at least from my experience.
There isn’t a Goat but GOATs and Eminem is one of them.
Em and Pac are the goats in my opinion.
eminem is a legend
He's the GOAT 🐐
#EMTHE🐐🐐🐐
Hands down the GOAT! Don’t even understand how this is even a debate anymore! He goes last for a reason!
As a die hard fan & student of hip hop for over 30 years I do think Eminem is one of the greatest ever, he may not be the Goat tho imo. To me he is not a gifted storyteller or poet much like Nas is. Nas can paint pictures with his words so eloquently and has been doing it since the early 90s. His first two albums are some of the greatest masterpieces in hip hop history. So in my humble opinion I think Nas is the GOAT. Followed closely behind him is Eminem, Rakim, Black Thought, GZA, Mos Def, Guru from Gangstarr, Slug from Atmosphere, and of course 2pac. And a personal white rapper favorite of mine who could challenge Em I think is RA the Rugged Man. He is a gifted lyricist, punchline master and d storyteller. If you haven’t heard his last two albums you are really missing out on one of the greatest rappers all time, underground or not he’s up there with those I mentioned. Great video tho, Peace and love
1 Eminem
2-3 2pac/Nas
4-100 everyone else
who is a rapper that has been played in every stadium around the world .... no one but eminem :)
he's the greatest legend please hear all he's songs❤❤
Look man , this is easy for me, i don't have to go around the world to make my point, EMINEM is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME
YOU EXPLAINED THAT SO WELL. IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RAPPER YOU LIKE EMINEM YOU LIKE THE WAY HE DOES HIS DOUBLE TRIPLE ENTENDER'S! WHEN YOU WERE EXPLAINING EMINEM I'VE NEVER EVER HEARD ANYONE SAY IT THE WAY YOU DID. DO YOU HAVE A TH-cam CHANNEL, WITH ANY OF YOU RAPS???
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I HEARD IT EXPLAINED THAT WAY 🤟🏼
@@DebDoll thank you so much! I really appreciate that! Yes some of my music is on this channel and more can be found on Spotify under Jon Jeremy! Peace and Love!
He has a club song with Akon used to hear it all the time. When I went clubbing
Smack that 👌
Eminem is the greatest rapper
2Pac is the greatest Hiphop artist
Nobody better than Em at rapping
Nobody better at emulating Hiphop than Pac
EM is the GOAT!
Slim shady to the moon 🚀
Great Vid, and yes Eminem is the 🐐
Shake that … smack that … and there’s one more that are easy club bangers even heard him at the club on 4th of July . So be quiet . Easy Goat . Check his 1996 first song on album called infinite that was Goat already for that era and even amazing now !
Em is just so different from everybody else.
You have people that have been trying to knock him off his pedestal and he’s still the goat but of course he had to earn that title and he moved some of the others to the side to make it the way it is now and he deserves it
For real there's none Eminem has been nothing but real with you not many rappers talk about their life on record but EM does and even go as much as to make it funny in any way possible
You gotta check out Jam Wayne. He snuck in the rap genre and taking it over. He's literally white 2Pac. Even tho he county as hell, you'll keep him in your playlists. My favorite song is "Ready".
Eminem IS A GOAT....but he's not THE GOAT.
I'm not sure who the goat is...and I'm really not sure anyone is the #1 goat.
Also, Eminem is too busy playing massive arenas and getting radio play...the club scene is small for Eminem...and they do play his music in the clubs so i never got why people said they dont play him in clubs.
I love your take and I agree. I just honestly feel that people have too many different preferences so it's very hard to say there's one goat. I think there's a handful of goats in hipop/rap based off the subgenre.... Eminem could be the goat of his certain styles...but Kendrick could be the goat of his styles... same with Wayne and more. Eminem I believe is the highest selling rapper of all time...ever over Tupac and biggie...but I can't personally say he's the goat of hiphop because there are too many different sub genres where others won't place Eminem as a goat. For example...who's better in the Chicago drill scene...King Von(rip) ...fbg duck.. or eminem? The styles are so different that eminem is definitely not a goat in the drill scene.
Eminem is a goat in multiple sub genres of hiphop...and just maybe it makes him the actual goat of goats...but its impossible to prove since sooooo many people have different tastes
Bro spitting facts
Does he still go last on a track? He is the 🐐
Idk but he’s up there for sure
Bro the sales is not everything.. but the sales also did not lie
Well said man!!! Respect you!!!
Hey Dude - I Followed Eminem From His First Album Produced by Dr Dre, I Never Even Picked Up On The Fact Other People Felt This Problem Him Not Being Black like The rest Of The Rap/Hip-Hop Artists That You've Said been around longer. Later On When The Collaberations Were Like Ice Cube Snoop Dmx Biggie And Pac... is basically 27 years of listening to him and yeah i totally agree Eminem is The Goat Of The Hiphop/Rap scene
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@@DJPeejay for sure!
Even though technical skills aren't the end all be all, that should still be part of the conversation. Eminem is the best, technically. But he also is one of the best story tellers. He also has some of the most creative concepts. He never pretended to be gangsta to fit in and ended up carving his own lane because his artistry wasn't like anyone else's.
The love he has for the culture is UNDENIABLE. His skin color should be irrelevant. He shows nothing but respect for those that paved the way AND his peers (I feel like a lot of people miss that part). The fact that people still try to label him a "culture vulture" is the dumbest shit.
And, for better or worse, he's had the greatest influence. Without Em, we don't get Kendrick, Big Sean, Logic, Hopsin, and arguably 50 Cent or Royce
Eminem is in my top 20 of all time as an artist.
However, if I based that on skills alone, he'd easily be in my top 5. He's a monster.
Now you'd wonder if I contradicted myself. Nope. Skills alone isn't the only criteria I use to judge an artist.
An artist with skill level A that only raps about a few things for example, doesn't rank as high as one of skill level B that touches a whole range of issues in meaningful depth.
Also, the style I respect the most has to be one that I could listen to when I'm like 80 years old. I.e one that sounds very mature.
To summarize; Eminem is in my top 5, if not top 3 in terms of putting words together in a clever manner.
Overall, he's in my top 20 and at times I put pressure on myself to include him in my top 10 just cause of that high skill level.
Whenever he drops, I listen to Eminem for signs that his style has evolved into something very mature. If that evolution ever takes place and he drops a few albums with it, I'd easily have him in my top 5 if not number 1.
This Karceno guy ranted last night and today about Em not being creative or having emotion 😂
Eminem is one of the greatest because he looks at rapping like it's a martial art. Like how Ip man looks at wing Chun or Bruce Lee Jeet kune do . Rapping is a direct reflect of how one's brain is wired. That's why ghostwriting is severely frowned upon in Rapping. That's why Eminem will always be one of the greatest because he sees rapping for what it is. A martial art of the mentality. And make no mistake,he is a 5th degree. black belt.
Yessir
He da goat ✅
Eminem is the goat, especially because he’s white because everybody hates on him and he still the goat everybody copies his style his flow he’s over 50 and making better music than almost everybody
Its a culmination of things.
Sales, skills/technicalities, body of work, longevity and influence are great indicators of greatness which Em is at the very top of every one of those aspects.
People make the excuse that he's white, and thats the only reason he is popular have a huge flaw in their argument. If that were the case, every white rapper would be considerd a GOAT.
The only reason they can't put him at the undisputed GOAT position is because he isn't black. The so called culture cant accept a white man being the best at the genre they say they created.
Yep