The Darwin dilemma: he was so close, now he seems so far…
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- Darwin Núñez has become a cult figure at Liverpool, but recent events have thrown his Liverpool future into question. Darwin Nunez could be on his way out of Liverpool.
He showed some frustration following their win over Spurs, and has had limited minutes of late as he has struggled to find the goal. All photos of him in Liverpool kits have been deleted from his instagram. But, has he really been that bad at Liverpool? Let’s look at his performances over his two seasons at Liverpool, and draw parallels to Darwin’s time at Benfica
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Not again!: 00:00
Closing down: 01:27
Adjustment period: 05:24
Improvements?: 06:25
And so?: 10:16
Closing message: 13:08 - กีฬา
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Find it funny that because of that picture with Araujo people r linking him with Barca but if he joins Barca the scrutiny would be 10 times worse
Exactly, and some Barca fans still want him after seeing him crumble at Liverpool, that just baffle's me. He's not a bad player by no means but he doesn't score when it matters. Hope it turns around for him.
Under the right circumstances, it would work.
*4-2-3-1:* XI AVG AGE | 26
ST
DARWIN
9
LWF CAM RWF
LUIS DÍAZ PEDRI RAPHINHA
7 8 11
CDM CM
ZUBI GAVI
14 6
LWB RWB
GRIMALDO CANCELO
20 2
LCB RCB
PAU TORRES ARAUJO
15 4
SWK
TER STEGEN
1
*SUBS/RES:*
13. PEÑA (GK)
3. BALDÉ (LB)
5. MARTÍNEZ (LCB)
33. CUBARSI (RCB)
24. GARCIA (RCB)
39. FORT (RB)
26. CASADO (CDM)
21. DE JONG (CM)
30. THIAGO (CM)
10. FELIX (AMF/SS/F9)
18. TORRE (AM)
16. FERMIN (AM)
27. YAMAL (RW)
19. ROQUÉ (CF)
38. GUIU (ST)
( _Values as per transfermarkt_ )
*DEPARTURES:*
ALONSO - €3m
LENGLET - €10m
CHRISTENSEN - €40m
KOUNDÉ - €50m
DEST - €22m
J. ARAUJO - €8m
ROMEU - €3m
ROBERTO - END OF CONT
GUNDOGAN - €16m
FATI - €30m
FERRAN - €35m
Maybe they see a Suarez in him, as Suarez had a lot of hits in the woodwork before his colossal season where pool finished 2. And then went to Barca. Might want to take him a season before his big boom?
It took him till the 3rd season at benfica, so let's give him till the end of next season and decide.
@@doxras7502don’t compare Darwin with Suarez. Suarez was phenomenal bro
As a Liverpool fan I can say that most of us have been supportive and a small group of fans have taken it too far with hate/abuse, however I do think people have the right to expect more. Salah with his worst Liverpool season being out for 2.5 months is on 28G/A in the prem. Salah and Jota are our only goal threats really. Diaz and Nunez was meant to replace Mané and Firmino and ad more goals to the attack but that hasn't happened. Nunez I've noticed just shots instead of actually placing the shots it's like the technique isn't all the way there. Like his misses against Luton and Man U just to mention some were so hard to take.
honestly if he leaves it'll be a massive slap in the face. we've supported him through the highs and the VERY VERY VERY lows..
the amount of chances he has missed but we the fans continued to support him. i'm really hoping he doesn't leave.
Liverpool fans wanted Salah gone and to keep this donkey.... Just hilarious
@@jeremy5698 I agree it would be disappointing if he were to leave. I think we need another goal scorer tho but mainly we need Slot to improve Nunez technique when taking shots. Gakpo was very heavily criticised earlier in the season but has turned into one of our best attackers since the beginning of April. He took the criticism and worked hard. However I do think some so called fans need to behave it is simply not ok to send hate or abuse to anyone.
I swear it's like the most simple thing is just be calm and just place it in the net because he's always there in good situations
It’s idiots on social media that joke about him and want him gone. Proper Liverpool supporters support him and know he’s capable if he finds composure
He gets into such good positions, is a constant threat, a nuisance. His work rate is unbelievable. If he can just time his runs a bit better and compose himself, he’s adding ten-fifteen goals a season to his tally.
He can be frustrating, especially in big games where the margins are so fine. I recently said when we were still in for the title and were top of the league, if him and Salah kept missing those big chances, it was going to come and haunt us. Then it did. More so with Darwin because some of his misses have been sitters.
I still love him though because he works hard and is entertaining. I can only see improvement. He just has to put the negativity out of his mind and knuckle down. YNWA.
This is who he is and always will be as a player. There will be some marginal improvement followed by a sharp decline. He's been given two seasons and is essentially the same exact player he was at Benfica. In my opinion he's peaked and needs to move elsewhere.
He’s actually got worse over the last 2 years and to delete all his Liverpool pictures after being backed so much by the fans is a joke
@@lhoman8426
I agree to a certain extent. That pettiness and impetuousness has to go - that’s one of the traits that’s probably stopping him reaching his potential. But I think there’s a world class striker in there.
I also don’t think Klopp has invested in him as much as he would have done had Klopp been staying. We’ve seen recently where Klopp has been arriving late to press conferences - sort of in that “don’t care anymore” phase because he’s leaving.
If Klopp it that tardy outwardly, imagine what he’s like internally. Klopp might be thinking “not really my problem anymore, someone else can sort it”. Might also explain his recent fallout with Salah. Klopp just isn’t invested enough any more, says things to players he otherwise might not have said. The players pick up on that and it unsettles them.
Captain chaos 😂😂😂
He's a lovely fella and gives his all but he isn't the guy to lead us to big trophies. The confidence argument is false too. Even when he's been in form he'll miss an open goal in a game he's scored 2 in. That's just who he is. Isak is the man we should be looking at. That's what clinical looks like.
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Agree 100% no chance of getting Isak tho especially under FSG
@@gerryz8216 We spent 75 mill on the guy this video is about. Considering Newcastle's ffp issues we could definitely get him for a similar amount
@@splinter360 Yuo definitely could not. Even if Newcastle might have FFP troubles, it doesn't mean they'll sell him at any bargain base fee for a direct rival.
Isak is a quality player, witch also means there would other clubs interested driving up the price, should he become available.
@@konzza He'll go to another premier league team.
Both Nuñez and Araujo are Uruguayan. Not saying he won’t leave or anything but that’s why he’s with him and he said he’s “his brother”
I feel like this is it for Nuñez, the vast majority of Liverpool fans have backed him to the core throughout these past 2 seasons despite his misses and him constantly being offside. Abuse should always be condoned but at the same time, in an era where everything gets screenshotted, I have not actually seen any of the abuse that is being said he has gotten (and he has had his instagram comments on limited since forever). Whilst I understand that he is frustrated, I am very upset that he has done this and that he is showing anger towards the vast majority of the fans who have backed him week in, week out…
Always baffles me why more players don't "round the goalkeeper" when they're going at full speed and it would honestly be the easiest option.
Wonder what that's about.
Everything today is calculated especially in the Prem, the expression and flair only exists at Real Madrid.
@@bear_eater254 hoping they'll use their flair tonight and congratulations to them for winning La Liga in a tough, injury-riddled season. ☺️👏
@@dvdv8197yeah, they absolutely did😂
@@jacobalexander4167 they're so goddamn incredible 😂😂👍👏
@@dvdv8197 Real Madrid in a UCL knock out stage, never disappoints
To think people seriously compared him to Haaland.
maybe before the start of 2022/23 season
Bitter bin dippers obsessed with the world champions....
They… didn’t. A few idiots on twitter did. That’s not representative of “people”.
The guy came in as a backup to both firmino and Jota at the 9. It was quite obvious to anyone who isn’t an idiot that the team intended to bring him on slowly.
Therefore any comparison to haaland - who’s been a scoring robot for years now - would be ill-informed if not straight up stupid.
Youre right, Halland only scores easy tap ins or penaltys mostly agaisnt weakest teams, instead Nuñez often scores bangers and not only to the weakest teams. Its true you cant compare this two, and not to mention darwin with his national team scoring agaisnt argentina or Brazil, Colombia, meanwhile Halland is a shame with his national team, very big differences here i agree with you
Loool if he improve his finishing obv he Is more complete than haland tap-in. He Is more closer to mbappe
11 goals and 8 assists in the premier league for him this season, he's far from being a bad player or having a bad season.
Quite the opposite even, he's a major asset for liverpools attack with 31 goal contributions in 52 games this season.
And yet people see him as a flop or talk about him like he's a flop.
I say give this man time and support and he's gonna an elite player in the prem
He's obviously part of why Liverpool's attack gels so well, but it should be pointed out that he's playing for one of the most ruthlessly attacking teams I've ever seen. If he wasn't a sub-par finisher, he would be in the golden boot race. Liverpool have I think the second most big chances missed in the league, with at least a third of those being Nuñez.
I backed him after his first season, because I agree he does a lot of things well, but I think it's gotten to the point where people are almost underplaying just how bad his finishing is. That's not something you fix overnight. I agree he CAN become an elite player, but it's easier said than done.
He’s a bad player ofc he’s going to have decent g/a in a klopp team
He’s a flat track bully unfortunately, doesn’t score big goals often (bar the Newcastle game). His numbers look good in isolation but when you take a look at how costly the misses are and who the goals come against it tells a different story. Likeable player but he’s acting like a child, no composure on or off the pitch
he's completely dogshit dude. he's lost us the League again and he shouldn't be playing alongside world class players like Salah and Trent, it's a complete injustice to them
Liverpudlian or not including me call him bad player cause we've seen someone who does everything with better numbers or contributions ex: Mane, Suarez or even Nando Torres. I agree about giving him support and love since as Madrid fans I saw him like Benzema before Cristiano left Madrid, quality player but ridiculously bad finisher.
If Nunez is so prone to immature comments and reaction on social media, why doesn't he just withdraw from it completely - to the bare minimum. It works the same way with other players. And that way, he wouldn't have this side issue where he is additionally distracted. I think Nunez is a capable player, but to call him world class completely, I think, puts too much pressure on him, especially with such a moody player.
The 💰 is important for him
Gakpo faced a much worse criticism (even though he's been used mostly out of his best position and benched for majority of matches) and still acted better. I support Darwin, I despise haters, I hope he'll find his confidence and himself
This season, he had ZERO goal against Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or even Aston Villa. He only managed score against big club is Newcastle.
Darwin isn’t bad, but the frustration comes from the fact that Liverpool need a clinical 9. A huge problem in previous seasons has been missed chances hurting LFC in cups and the league. You can’t win major trophies with “chaos” and “work rate”
Considering they won a UCL and a premier league with Firmino who was far from a clinical finisher and known for his work rate at CF, don’t quite know if I buy that.
Great watch as always! 👊🏿💜
Looking from the outside looking in i think he'll still do well for Liverpool. And you saw him vividly for Benfica so I'm sure there's nothing i can add coz my experience was seeing him in Spain but that was when he was absolutely raw before heading to Benfica.
He's still very raw but there's something in there that can be channeled by a prooer coach to calm him down.
Although they are very different players (in terms of position and style of play) it reminds me of a young Vini before Carlo when he used to be so rushed anytime he got through on goal, and only until Carlo did we see him calm down and become more calculated and i remember Carlo specifically mentioning that he told Vini to start taking less touches when closer to goal and calming down in the box.
But yeah i think he'll be an important piece for Liverpool in their rebuild post Klopp if they stick by him and find a coach whos able to channel that confident side of him.
The problem is he was overrated when they bought him an expectations simply are too high. Darwin was a good player at Benfica, but not a 100 million player. When he arrived people compared him to Halland, and I guess many people expect him to still reach these hights due to his pricetag, which is just unfair...
I think he is performing pretty much as one could expect. A decent 9, but nothing special.
Liverpool fans at the stadium and most forums have supported him throughout, even though he has cost us points and sometime painful to watch. His name gets chanted very often when people see him struggling. Cant speak for the trolls and horrid fans online throwing abuse but its dissapointing to see him act this way. I think he has potential but like you said, if hes not hitting those great goals, then you're just left with the constant misses.
Only discovered your channel now man.
You talk a lot of sense regarding Darwin thanks.
Just subbed.
Rabona cleans up after another Benfica flop. You can always expect Felix, Sanches and Darwin videos...
Benfica flops factory
@MiguelTavaresMAT @cristolteanu2831 Don’t blame Benfica for rich clubs overspending🤷🏽♂️
It’s worked out a fair amount but not every player sold for high amounts is going to work out immediately…
Calling him a flop when he's been your last ever good player is crazy work ngl
@@simonribeiro7630 yep. People will pay so why not take the money. And they're still good players, just not worth these pricetags
He’s just not it. Even when he was at Benfica. Many fans were blinded by his goal tally in his second season, but if you really watch him play, he lacks the quality to become a world class striker like a Kane, Lewandowski, Haaland, etc. He’s talented, but I don’t think he’ll reach that next level to be one of the greats.
As someone that follow the eredivisie, the way Slot handled Santi gimenez through good and bad form is something positive to look forward to by Nuñez, also Gakpo is a left winger only, he played striker for van gaal but thats not his actual position, Slot will definitly put him there
First of all i condone any hate and threats being surveyed towards Nunez.
Now in to the criticism we paid 80 mil for a striker who will score goals and be a threat infront of goal.
- He is lackluster in front of goal
- 70% percent of the time he's offside
- 90% of the time he misses his chances or fucking hits the woodwork
And people defending him be like "he brings chaos"what sort of argument is that if you want chaos sign Joey Barton or Balloteli.
He's not Liverpool standard bottom-line
I feel for the lad but if you are not doing your job then why are you at the club anyway.
I would rather get rid of him and move on!
it needs to make sense financially, we cannot sell him this season....maybe next
i think you mean u “dont” condone 😂😂
@@notearthman794 I condone hate and threats being directed towards him, not criticism.
I think the word you are looking for is "condemn" not "condone".
Being a Liverpool fan, I’ve always love Nunez and what he did on the field. Till now, I’m quite sure that he probably never be a clinical striker like Lewandowski or Kane,
But given his size and speed, I’m damn sure he is a good striker who could cause chaos up front, I just thought he would fit best if he’s not being the key striker up front.
He's a good footballer. I still can't think of many footballers that are worse than him who are also worth 100.000.000£. He would kill at Galatasaray.
He'll waste his talent if he goes to Gala.
With Gala and Turkish league we're talking about a league that has dropped below European average in quality and had Joel Pohjanpalo topping scoring charts at a relegationfodder club. The current standard is probably lower than Italian Serie B where Joel Pohjanpalo has been topping the scoring charts since his season at Turkey playing for Venezia. Btw. Darwin was worth nearly 100m 🤷🏼♂️.
All it takes is 15m player to dominate Turkish league.
The abuse that Darwin has received from a small but loud minority, is nothing short of disgusting. Yes his conversion stats are poor and yes he is a bit of a rough diamond. But he puts a shift in every time he pulls on that red shirt and as fans, you can’t knock a player for working hard and trying his best. I hope he can become the striker we all hope he can be. YNWA ❤️
Adrian, c'mon now bruv, Liverpool is on the clock rn they've only won one Prem league title in last 30 years, they've ain't got time to deal with fragile egos such as Darwin. Their fans have a right to expect way more outta these high priced transfer targets.
Oh no. Clock has stopped. Klopp is gone. 18 months of results are on the way, since this liverpool squad is tailor made for Tuchel, who will burn every bridge in the north on his way out. Perhaps they could not afford him.
The Barca links are perfect, Mendes client, can't finish for shit, overpriced, le epic runs man, he is the Uruguayan Ferran Torres. Barca is also looking for Dani Olmo, the Ferran Torres 3.0, Barca will assemble the Ferranxodia by 2030 and unlock the infinite lever glitch. As you can see I'm a frustrated Barca fan, I feel you Liverpool bros.
It's funny, I literally was talking to a Liverpool fan a while ago, and as soon as he left, I see the notification for this vid
Hope you won't mind, but imo:
"A while ago" means a couple days/weeks/months or even years ago. Assuming the fan didn't stay for that long, the more appropriate words to use are "a couple of minutes ago", or "earlier today". 🙂
(Yes, I can be fun at parties. 😅)
I despise nunez and how some fans treat him like a baby. Lost us the league
@@zes3542 how many titles has Firmino cost you? Why is nobody talking about that? He was a number 9. And Nunez has a better season than all of Firmino's seasons except 17/18 where he got 27/17.
@@cimp8770 I can't believe you're actually defending that donkey Nunez. the loser has missed 20 Big chances from Salah ALONE. how in your mind can you justify that??? Unbelievable some of you
@@dvdv8197 o...k...then, well, 13 hours ago and 5 minutes to be exact, I was talking to a Liverpool fan
one thing should be noted liverpool this season played in europa league which gave the player loads and loads of chances to score and yet he increased his number just a fraction
As a Bayern fan I wanted him to join so bad. An alternate world where we get Nunez instead of Mane/Kane. Bayern would have formed him into an amazing player. Premier League destroys young talent. ManC spends billions per squad position and is usually on older players (to form the core), while youth fills in areas of need. Other than the money, I don't see why any player under the age of 27 goes to the premier league. You can reply with a player or two to this comment, "what about bla bla bla" but per everyone one there's tens of failures
Looks like the help of a sports psychologist and a technical performance coach would help. He just needs to make an adjustment or two. Needs to focus more on anticipation and shot placement instead of just first time shooting.
darwin still has support but not from the abusive mugs who claim they support liverpool
People are just very reactionary, he’s helped us to a third place finish , with a team that is at most part newly assembled. His work rate and effort is off the charts , he’s earned support and a 3rd season.
@@daniel4002and he's 100 million absolutely thrown away
Correction at 1:51 We actually WON (W) v Fulham
As a Liverpool supporter, I’d like for the club to keep him. Here’s why:
1. Composure is a key problem of how Liverpool play. The high intensity means sometimes things happen at 250km/h. For instance, the 2022 UCL final should have been won but no goal was scored despite peppering Courtois’ goal. The keeper had a blinder of a game, but there are often times where LFC players could take an extra touch and didn’t. The proverbial “La pausa”.
2. He fashions chances with his chaos and keeps defenders busy. The space this creates is positive IF teammates can exploit it as well. I’d always prefer he starts vs City and Arsenal, for example.
I’d readily sell Diaz first (13G 5A all comps) before Nunez (18G 13A).
I'd sell Diaz, move Nunez to the left and get a new number 9.
@@jonbolton491 my fix would be closer to this. Who do you think would be up for grabs & do a better job as a 9 in the current market?
@@TKQuattro491 Victor Boniface, Guirassy.
@@TKQuattro491 The whole world is going for Gyokeres right now so his price will be too high. Slot can also bring along Gimenez.
@@jonbolton491 watch Michael Edwards pull the wool over our eyes. 😅😅😅
As a big Darwin fan I was hoping you would make a video about this
The real story should be how Benfica has fucking finessed all these clubs with these pathetic players. Branding them high potential guys that have all been busts.
Di Maria; Ruben Dias; Bernardo Silva; João Cancelo; Ederson; Oblak; Enzo Fernandez; and even Matić. surely missing names tho
Stupidity knows no bounds
@@DudaWalker Enzo is a bum
@@LitoLochossor is he a bum because he went to Chelsea? Not saying he’s worth £120 million but like the other guys in the original comment they all went to clubs that were wrong for them
@@karmaascendant3936 He sucks he a bum
He never learns from his previous mistakes and you don't need player like him. At such a level, you learn from your mistakes and improve you are not taught basic things
Unfortunately true
He is dog water
While I can see the positive aspects of Darwin's game, I always found it weird how Liverpool fans describe him as chaotic as if that was a good thing. Missing empty net chances ain't good but sure is chaotic.
Not gonna lie the front line seems so close yet so far. They have yet to really know how to play with each other. You have Diaz the man who dribbles himself in circles, Gakpo who’s up and down like Darwin, Jota.. is he a striker or winger? Salah has been scoring but has not been up to his usual standards.
Jota is your best attacker.
Iam not surprised with the bad comments about him from the fans coz even salah can’t escape from those toxic comments. One of the greatest players of their club’s history was being mistreated by many people
Love this take from someone familiar with his background.
You forgot to mention he is currently the WC Qulifier South American Top Scorer with 5 goals in 6 matches, while beating both Brasil, and the WC Argentina in La Bombonera!
It could the league remember diego forlan ,struggled in england but went to spain and banged them in
I’m a Liverpool fan and I’m aboard on the Darwin train. Perhaps I have more patience than other reds but I notice that as stated on the video, Núñez has improved on the tactical side yet is still a chaos merchant. When he’s confident, he generally improves the whole attack. On the psychology aspect and his emotional intelligence side to his game, he’s passionate, seems to be a hard worker and is a team player - trying to get goals but also creating space for others.
There are a lot of kinks to work out (which might never be straightened out) but the sticking point for most of the criticism has to be the purported transfer fee.
Hope the best for him and my club whether it be together or him going to another club.
he was injured 2nd half of his 1st Benfica season and was just coming off the bench. in the 2nd season he was fully fit and exploded
Thing is Liverpool in 1st half was really good. They conceded less goals and created lot of chances and burried them. In 2md half Liverpool lost many of their starting stars because of injury and defensive wise Liverpool have been bad in 2nd half. Rhey have barely kept any coean sheets.
It also doesn't help when you concede every match. You can't do comeback every match. Also players like Gakpo & Diaz have hardly scored goals or even created chances. All pressure ends up falling on Darwin. Ofcourse he should score some of thise chances but there are times when Duaz and Gakpo in that position and hardly scored those goals. Jota & Mo getting injured doesn't help that.
The reason Liverpool fell off in 2nd half is because of injuries and fatigue. When injured players returned they barely had any momentum. Players who were playing got down with fatigue. Klopp going news also doesn't help much.
With all the injury issues Liverpool hardly have a structure which provides good chance to the attack. Conceding also doesn't help.
Some criticism is fair enough. But some are just too much. It was a collective failure and not just Darwin's finishing when he has scored some goal winning matches.
Ofc ur going to expect ur 80 million dollar striker to score… Darwin is a flop I’ve accepted it now
@@Juicerock12 it's a team game.
@@kmahta he sucks accept it he 25 not 23 he not young
@@LitoLochoss so now 25 is the new old you Muppet? Many players don't even peak till 30. He can still do it. Luis Suarez almost had the same start like Darwin. Darwin has done much better with the assist side showing his improvements.
The thing is that some players feel that if they get negative comments from a few supporters then it feels like everyone feels the same. People give negative comments easy, but a well done is harder to come by. I think it's more of a coaching issue than anything else. He would thrive in a different coaching model. We have so many opposition keepers having their best games against us... that not a coincidence
Darwin is still the 2nd best player in Liverpool in terms of total xG, and 1st in xG by 90", meaning he's getting in those chances, contrary to the other players, who are not, besides Salah, who is also underperforming
No player is bigger than the club.
We’ve supported the lad through thick and thin, and this is how he repays the loyal supporters…
Liverpool fans stuck by him the most, almost 2 seasons of these stinky performances and yet we still supported him and sang his name. What he’s done is nothing short of embarrassing. He can’t handle a little criticism I wonder how he would feel when he goes to Spain. They won’t be easy on him there.
lmfaooo... i think we just have to accept that, it's part of his game
The funny or wierd thing about Nunez is that outside of his shooting no joke his whole game as a striker is world class. I understand why people see him as a flop (which he isnt) because there was high expectations and he himself has shown incredible promise , am not saying his close to someone like Suarez as a complete striker but he is sort of in that Benzema category of "mediocre but relativly good on his own with potential for a good season but high output if paired with good wingers". He has individually underperform but i personally look more at Liverpools overall attack always lacking the 3rd player rather than being focused on just Nunez's technical errors cause until now in almost every match 1/3 of Liverpool's attack seems to lack behind wether its Nunez, Salah, Diaz , Gakpo.
Glad to see Michael Plantini 2.0 grows healthily in the background
Honestly if anyone had watched full season of him playing i don't understand how any fans would want him to stay. He has most offsides and big chance misses combined in a league. He literally cost us the league
Darwin was once of those signings made after FSG decided to grant Klopp greater power in such matters, at the expense of the scouting team. A Klopp pick, whose form unsurprisingly dipped shortly after Klopp announced his departure. He probably knows a new manager isn't going to put great faith into his very specific... skillset, players like him and Diaz won't be looked upon kindly by a manager who emphasizes technique and precision over crazy pressing and running.
There’s no pressure greater then that of expectations
People’s expectations or assumptions of what a player should be capable of.
Ronaldo is one of the best goal scorer of modern football and he too suffered at the hands of critics and expectations
Darwin is an incredible talent and I do believe he can be genuinely world class with the right management around him
I think klopp leaving is ampering this Liverpool team’s performance at times
He has elite skills in every other part of his game - except passing and finishing. and YES we paid a hefty sum but that also meant some people would expect goals galore right away. He has improved other parts of his game in past seasons but people still bash him for his finishing. Fine. Give him a season under Slot and if he still doesnt improve or to the level Edwards/Hughes expect then get rid. Still has plenty of time to be resold IF that ever happens and needed.
Media will still talk about him and Hojlund about having massive potential and give them time to become top strikers.
But then for Jackson who outperforms them in a brand new young inexperienced team is not good enough and will be replaced
Jackson is half the price as well
He's gonna do well under a manager who uses a ST instead of a CF
Would that stop him constantly being offside and missing sitters? What would it change and why?
I like him, he has the passion I expect from a player, wish Virgil had that type of passion playing
In the current season, he has scored 23 goals and provided 16 assists, leading to a total involvement in 39 goals across 58 matches. These are stats that any forward would desire, but constant negative press has focused on his missed goal opportunities, which were often created by his own playmaking and constant movement off the ball. Darwin Nuñez's case, with 39 direct goal involvements in 58 matches, is one of the most unjust and incomprehensible in football. Hopefully, he moves to a team or league that appreciates his talent.
Nunez not feeling supported is insane if its true, there's never been a player who gets more support for doing less. He closes the keeper down and everyone in the ground sings his name.
Darwin should have been managed well, he got stuck in a situation where Klopp is leaving, everyone is emotional, we are struck with injuries. It left Klopp with no choice but to start him in games. He was doing okay but I feel his impact was always better when he came off the bench. Due to all this chaos around him unfortunately he crumbled and couldn't keep him calm while scoring. A bit harsh on him but it's very unfortunate. He was called on this big stage to perform when clearly wasn't ready, everybody knew it including Klopp but we know no one had a choice. It's also true he has been given a lot of time to settle and by this time he should have given the quality of our team. It is what it is I guess
I think the true issue here is that of the attacking 3 only Salah is a true finisher. As much as I love Lucho, his lack of goals is the one glaring problem in the pitch, but it's "okay" because he's just a winger, not a striker. If Darwin had clinical finishers at his left and right the whole attacking trident could play more interchangeably and be a real menace but sadly it's not the case and since Mo's injury we're left with a very inconsistent attack.
I’m not blaming him for not being a good enough.
I do blame the staffs for thinking he will be a good signing.
Buying him is the equivalent of spending just to decrease your own attacking quality, basically self-inflicted.
If I were a rival fan I would be so happy for him staying, because it means Liverpool will invest more time on him rather than having someone new who can improve their team.
Great comparison
Darwin is part of the reason why Liverpool were in the title race for such a long amount of time. With him gone, who's gonna rack up the xThreat & g/a...? Diogo 'injured 60% of the matches' Jota, an ageing Salah and Cody Gakpo?
Arne Slot's gonna have a headache. Darwin needs to click or there won't be a title challenge next season. I'd like to see him on the left but that's also the only position where Gakpo offers anything.
I believe in him. Will come good. Next year will be his year.
The price tag attached can create anxiety.
I'm one of those fans that always chant "NUNEZ! NUNEZ! NUNEZ!" every single time he takes a shot, but with our strikers all slumping, we desperately need someone to step up. I guess we expected him to give his all, since we have supported him all through thick and thin, even being ridiculed by rival fans for still propping him up. But lately you can feel that his heart is not there anymore for whatever reason, so we just stopped doing the chant. Also doesnt help that we are being let down by the whole squad with our recent form, Klopp deserves much more than this. We give Salah the same shit, with the shithousery he pulled on the boss in the West ham game.
We will defenitely chant Darwin again if he shows fire and get off his arse and keeps trying. It's a bit weird he chose to react by deleting his Liverpool posts, but you can never know what a man is going through internally, so until he actually hands in a transfer request, we will always support him.
Its the whole tean not just him alone🙀
I mean 11 goals 8 assist. I know he's underperformed consider his price, and also he misses a lot of chance.
But says if liverpool sell him for 65 millions , can we really find his replacement for that amount of money that will be better than 20 goal contribution. Not to mention he's a handful for defender.
If we find striker from other league then there's no guarantee he'll adapt well. If we looking in the league right now there're probably a couple striker that is remotely possible solanke, watkins, tony.
I don't think watkin will move for anything less than 80-100m villa don't want to sell him, solanke might cost less but 18 goals 3 assist doesn't really an improvement from nunez, toney sound good but last season that's his best season he score 20 and 4 assists good number but not really a for sure improvement .
All 3 are older than nunez, he's only 24 there's still time to develop. I love his passion I love his work rate his inconsistency can be improve it's already improve quite a lot from last year. If you go and look at how he control the ball last season compare to this season in the same type of situation (liverpool channel got a clip of his counter attack comparing 2 season) his control of the ball is better and also his pass.
People try to compare him with Mane or Firmino but Mane is one of the best forward in premier league in his prime, Firmino is a whole different kind of player and also the best in his role for a couple of year We spoiled by a great frontline for so long that we set this stupid standard for the player.
Mancity's Julian Alvarez is the same age as him, got pretty much a same stat for goal contribution, play pretty much the same amount of game yet nobody seem to point finger at him.
His performance got magnify by the media because he missed chances, that's not good but it's over criticized.
As a Liverpool fan we love having him at the club but if he thinks moving out is better for his career and probably his mental state then we wish them all the best. Just sad that we'll lose an amazing player that in my opinion been a victim of the media.
Anyone sending him abuse or hateful messages isn’t a real supporter of the club, that behavior is disgusting and shouldn’t be tolerated. In terms of his future, I think we have to sell him, this has not worked and it’s clear it never will, he just isn’t clinical enough to be anything more than a super sub from the bench, we can’t rely on him as the main striker. There are too many matches we have drawn or lost where he could’ve scored but didn’t (Luton and Man United off the top of my head). Its time we say goodbye to Mo and also cut short this Nunez experiment, bring in new attackers with Gakpo on the left from now on
I say this as a Villa fan and with all love, he will score this weekend. It’s what happens with Villa.
It is funny that Liverpool fans are either portrayed as delusional people who will keep sticking with underperforming players and overhype them, or criticised for not sticking with underperforming players like Nunez. If the criticism is the reason he deleted those posts, I hope someone put an arm around him, took him to the side and reminded him of the fact that he consistently hears his name chanted even when he misses chances.
Our fans have always supported him. Having said that this is is second season and we can't rely on him to score. Salah and Jota have been the main goal threats but it seems we can't keep Jota fit. I love Lucho but he's been off the boil this year.
Maybe Slot can get a tune out of them?
As far as this season and next ABC is the theme. I'm so fed up of their dominance and jammyness. The Prem has become boring. The Prem is becoming the Bundesliga.
Hopefully Liverpool or Arsenal can be the Bayer Leverkusen to stitch them up.
He doesn’t score against the top teams so his G/A is misleading. Assists are such a misleading stat nowadays it’s not like Darwin is threading through balls or great crosses. He’s had 2 “assists” where he simply miscontrolled the ball
Y’all should leave Darwin Nunez alone, Liverpool fans have always been supporting him, don’t know why he took it to personal this time by the small group of fans that didn’t. He’s lucky his playing for Club like Liverpool, if it was Barcelona, Chelsea, United or even City, I don’t think they will be patient like us.
Felix, Enzo were demons also at Benfica 😂 😂 😂
Maybe because he was not meant to be a striker. He can exceed as a winger. We know he can assist.
If we were to compare him to haaland and mbappe, them 2 have shown they are clinical finishers for more than 2 seasons whereas Darwin has not for a top side
Just because he plays for Liverpool, don't be scared to call Nunez a flop
«I’ve got so far, but in the end it doesn’t even matter.»-Darwin Nunez probably
I do think that we can do without him but remember he plays better for Uruguay he is a good player just that move didn’t work
I also think Liverpool function better with a false 9, so Diaz and Salah can get in behind. I think he'd work best as a super sub battering ram, obviously he's not going to be happy to settle with that though.
Klop should ask Nunez to aim for the corner flag and maybe he should get some goals then 😅
I understand how statistics can be a quick and easy way to assess a player as it’s empirical evidence. We’re always taught the value of data and how it can help us draw conclusions… but what happened to watching football with our eyes? What happened to appreciating the quality a player brought because they were entertaining? I feel like there is this theme of numbers in football now (primarily England) where a player’s quality is not in their entertainment value, work ethic, or overall play, but instead goals and assists. It seems like every player in the premier league is a flop this season, but then they score a goal and suddenly they’re having a “break out” season. Then, they have a “stinker” and go back to being a flop. It feels like the narrative in football changes each week and people want to just get instant results to banter other clubs. My club loses this week? Sack the manager! My club wins the next week, we’re the greatest club and we never doubted it now let’s talk crap about this other club! Every player, every coach, every club doesn’t need to be measured!
I kind of feel like this may go back to Ronaldo and Messi, as they were so close that we had to compare the smallest little detail in their stats and now as both of their careers come to an end we are grasping at straws to recreate the utter joy both players brought us.
I don’t know, this is just how I feel about football nowadays. It doesn’t excite me as much anymore. Anyways, this was just a thought that turned into a tangent, thanks for reading! Also, Canadian, Portuguese, and Benfiquista🇨🇦🇵🇹🦅
He is yet far from being a proficient finisher when facing goalkeepers and defenders of top quality. The guy was not emotionally ready to become the main star of a club like Liverpool, given the fact he had some skills to polish. Deleting Liverpool pictures or acting offended is the kind of behavior you would expect from someone that didn't yet develop a strong emotional shell. Others would turn frustration into food to fuel will to improve. Sadly it seems like Darwin's performance gets too affected and specially his lack of ability to overcome bad situations becomes a vicious circle for him.
I really would love to see him grow and improve. He has some astonishing physical skills that would make him a top player if he can get over emotional lows.
The title sounds like a track from Disney's Enchanted btw lol. In time people still miss Firmino and Origi like they miss Torres, not this 75m pound bottlejob
Ironically, his frenetic and chaotic style of play would have been better suited for Manchester United rather than Liverpool. His box crashing and all-gas-no-brakes movements are better suited to more spontaneity of Ten Hag's system rather than the rigid structure of gegenpressing Klopp has set up. I do think Benfica overrate their talent, but there's a great player in him still. He won't reach that at Liverpool.
Darwin needs to grow up. If he can't handle the current criticism (despite ppl vehemently defending him, even now), he won't last 6 months at Barca or Real, who i dooubt wants him anyway.
He will bounce back. Have faith
If Darwin leaves then someone check up on me.
Suarez had less success the first 2 seasons at Liverpool than Nunez. Look what legacy he has🇺🇾
I think Darwin has more goals in his second season than Suarez had score in his second
In his first 2 years at Liverpool Darwin has produced virtually the same numbers as Bobby Firmino and has produced more than Luis Suarez in his 2nd season at Liverpool. They are/were 24 in their second season. Bobby and Suarez also had trouble finishing and missed a TON of shots. With time, all of that changed. Same thing will happen with Darwin. The only question is will Darwin do it for Liverpool or against Liverpool. Choose wisely.
New liverpool standard. Dont need goals wins trophies. Chaos ball is enough. Chaos ball is life 😂😂😂
Throwing tantrums on social media..... he would be a perfect fit for Manchester United.
Every player seems to be great at positioning but can’t finish , it happened with Mane too, seems like a coaching error…
I support him, he needs to stop worrying about social media and develop some mental toughness. His real problems are composure and a lack of football intelligence - strikers going through on goal and blasting the ball at the keeper are like children, not elite players at 25 years of age.
Yeah he puts effort into running hard but sadly, I don’t think he will ever come good, his striking instincts are terrible.
Idk, when I thought he joined Liverpool, it was gonna be between him and Haaland but it's a shame :( I'm sure he'll still come through but the PL is ruthless. At least fans bash him a lot. :(