Another great video!!!!! It’s nice to see what can be done with Cinestill, something different than the typical shots of gas stations and neon lights. Great job! I may try some Cinestill. I love the muted colors.
Strong compositions beautifully captured by you Steve. The colours are lovely and subtle. Indeed there is magic to these motion picture emulsions. As a footnote, I recently resurrected my twenty year old Nikon D70 with its 6MP CCD sensor. I can't remeber the last time that I enjoyed photography so much. It is like using a film camera with transparency loaded. Six MP means framing has to be right at the time of pressing the shutter button. No pulling of sliders to the end in LR either as it has no meaningful dynamic range, about 8 stops tops, but the colours and the sharpness are superb. The Leica M has not seen the light for a few weeks now. Look forward to your mystery camera episode, Steve. Keep well.
Very nice Steve I know it is hard work doing these videos for us, but they are very much appreciated by all and good to have them show up more frequently regards Kevin
Thanks Kevin, it is quite a task to shoot video alongside the stills and the majority of my time is now spent working in Final Cut Pro, not on the film shots.
I believe 400D is de-remjetted Kodak Vision 3 250D - I've used the latter in 35mm and it's a fantastic stock. From what I can tell (from totally unscientific tests) its latitude is pretty much a match for Portra, and colour-wise sits somewhere in the middle between Portra and Gold. I was going to try it on portraits during a shoot the other week but I ended up shooting Portra. I believe 250D is sometimes available in 120 but is harder to track down. If you wanted to try it in 35mm I always buy it from Nik and Trick in Folkestone (~30 exposures for about £8)... they also do ECN-2 processing for only a couple of quid more than C41.
I’ve recently tried the 250D version in 35mm David and it is a close match for the 400D. I removed the remjet using washing soda and followed with standard C-4- processing. Definitely harder to find in 120 and not as cheap unfortunately.
Lovely light for the outing. And kudos for taking on the challenge of shooting into it. So often your videos feel like master classes in composition, framing, and lighting. Thanks for the effort you put into them.
I'm not generally a fan colour film but the muted tones are really delightful. And the photo at 3 min (the tree trunks in water) is wonderfully other worldly.
Lovely....I have used the both the 400D and the 50D, the latter in strong winter light, I also try to avoid getting too much of the red glow, in summertime the colours with these films tends to become much stronger, but can be controlled by being mindful about it, I like the Cinestill best with medium format. Really loved the second shot with the light, and the frozen lake picture had a nice dreamy feel to it.
Some nice color in the images today, with that film. That shot with all of the sticks I view as an abstract, and I like it. I like the second image with the bright light behind; it works in the square format, as you point out. Thanks for sharing another video, Steve.
I really like the last image very much. Getting a color image that is interesting in the dead of winter is a real achievement. BTW, I shoot Kodak Vision 3 stock and shoot it at the rated speed so your Cinestill would be shot at ISO 250. Then I develop at home with C41 chemistry but add a prewash with a solution of washing soda. I also pull the development time by one stop. This way, the C41 chemistry acts more like ECN2. The result is stunning and with no halation problems. Yes, it does require that I wipe the residual remjet off the negatives with a disposal microfiber cloth before drying.
Thanks Maggie. I’ve recently shot a roll of 250D and also removed the remjet with washing soda, no real issue and no residue. I’ve not tried pulling it though, just gave it the usual 3:15 in C-41 so I’ll probably give that a go on the next roll.
Late to the show, but I'd love to see more photography videos with motion picture film stock. I have been wanting to take the exact same shots, same settings, on two rolls of Cinestill 50D, two different film backs, and have one developed in C-41, the other in ECN-2 chemistry to see what the difference is.
Really interesting video, the last shot was beautiful. The colours you got have surprised me. I have had a roll of this in my fridge for a while, you have tempted me to give it a go.
Always in admiration of your composition skills Steve. Makes me have to look harder at what initially might appear to be an innocuous scene. Intrigued by the new camera 🤔👍📸
The shot at 5:50 is amazing and I actually don't mind the halations. You should try a roll that doesn't have the remjet layer removed and see if you like it better. This film seems to suit your style very well. 8:18 is awesome too.
Having tried the Cinestill, not a fan. But I do appreciate the great video with authentic tests and interpretations. Always worth a watch here. Cheers!
Nicely done. I think the shot of the pond really works well here. The muted colors really suit it.... I have a couple of rolls of this to shoot, as well as a box of 4x5. I'm not sure how I'll get along with it due to halation. Perhaps I can avoid the worst of it if I'm careful, or desaturate the red glow in photoshop after the fact...
I can’t see halation being an issue in subdued light Bryce, that final shot was the only one with the effect and I knew exactly what was going to happen when I shot it.
I have heard about that film and may try it; it's just that film takes me a long time to use the roll. Every click costs money and so I find I am hesitant to shoot anything. That is not to say I am waiting for a better thing to shoot, but I kind of am, yet at some point I need to finish the roll. Plus the processing is costly. I think all that is why I shoot digital. Good video, good information. Personally, I think you have one of the best photography channels out there. Your analysis of your images is quite good and makes one think about framing with an eye to a purpose. Best wishes!
I actually prefer the first ´blinding light’ shot, even the halation!! Love the soft colours of the film, similar to Portra. Thankyou once again, Steve.
I've developed a real liking for Motion Picture Film, in particular the Vision 50D which can be obtained for reasonable cost. Put on a tripod it can capture very detailed images and I have picture of Truro Cathedral Nave where you really can't see the grain on 35mm. It also does well as a travel film and for documentary.
As I understand it 400D is an entirely new film, which unlike other Cinestill films which have remjet removed from motion picture film. 400D is a C41 which has not had remjet or antihalation dyes added in the first place. A logical progression in the simplification of producing a cinematic effect without the faff of remjet removal, I think. I wonder, is this the thinking behind Ilford's new C41 offering?
Certainly an interesting film and good to have as an alternative to the Portra range. Harman 200 is also a welcome addition, only shot one roll but I’ll admit that its character is well suited to urban images.
Enjoyable! Loved some of the colors! A new Film, takes time to adjust to! Cost of film, even worse, need for Lab and scan. I can do 35mm scans! A few very good images! Bravo.
Steve-ie with the bronn-ie on ECN-2-ie. Recip-e for a good video. Great images and really enjoy the local environment videos, because it really shows how creative you can be in somewhere traditionally unremarkable. Inspiring.
I actually liked the first photo as it was on the video. The photo itself was more desaturated and the colors less true and vibrant much less orange and the yellow less yellow. All compared to the original video--of course. When I shoot 400D I never use it with backlight or any reflective lights because I hate the halation.
I’ve used 400D and wasn’t impressed. Part of it was my fault as I badly underexposed one roll. That roll was very muddy and had a horrible color cast. The next roll was shot at 400 and looks better but still nothing to write home about. The 3rd roll I shot at 320 in bright full sun and 200 in the shade or lower light. Those weren’t bad but for the price I’ll be sticking with the Kodak Portra and Gold I have in my freezer as there in no real difference in the prices of Kodak and CineStill
A good one, as always. Nice to see something other than a gas station shot on Cinestill for a change!
Love the second ‘blinding light’ photograph as well.
I love the last shot. Such beautiful lighting.
Thank you 🙂
Very nice Steve, great colours.
Thanks Phil.
Another great video!!!!! It’s nice to see what can be done with Cinestill, something different than the typical shots of gas stations and neon lights. Great job! I may try some Cinestill. I love the muted colors.
I think it’s well suited to landscapes, a very natural look.
Strong compositions beautifully captured by you Steve. The colours are lovely and subtle. Indeed there is magic to these motion picture emulsions. As a footnote, I recently resurrected my twenty year old Nikon D70 with its 6MP CCD sensor. I can't remeber the last time that I enjoyed photography so much. It is like using a film camera with transparency loaded. Six MP means framing has to be right at the time of pressing the shutter button. No pulling of sliders to the end in LR either as it has no meaningful dynamic range, about 8 stops tops, but the colours and the sharpness are superb. The Leica M has not seen the light for a few weeks now. Look forward to your mystery camera episode, Steve. Keep well.
I had a Nikon D40 and also loved the images from that camera, so natural and the colours were perfect.
Agree about that last square shot more contained yet still get the blinding light impressions without the loss of details. Very nice work 😊
Thanks Christine, I played up the blown out highlights in Lightroom, I wanted it to appear how my eye saw it at the time.
5:10 Wow a scene out of a dream or a fairy tale!
Coming from a certified halation lover, the "blinding light" picture goes crazy
Some fantastic shots. I actually like the halation around on around trees emphasising the sun. The second shot is also great.
Thanks Michael, I suppose it makes sense to play into the films characteristics rather than avoid them.
Thanks - film looks interesting and I will try it. Great to hear your views and examples of different 120 films.
Hope you enjoy it, definitely a different look to other films.
Really really good video!!! Cheers Steve! Some cracking photos!
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
nice photos steve i have only used the cinestill 800t for night shots worked well.
Very nice Steve I know it is hard work doing these videos for us, but they are very much appreciated by all and good to have them show up more frequently regards Kevin
Thanks Kevin, it is quite a task to shoot video alongside the stills and the majority of my time is now spent working in Final Cut Pro, not on the film shots.
Nicely done! And a cliffhanger: “Mystery camera!”
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Great images Steve, thank you. I love the mechanical sounds from the Bronica. Seemed like a delightful relaxing time in the forest, top stuff 👍
Thank you 😊
I believe 400D is de-remjetted Kodak Vision 3 250D - I've used the latter in 35mm and it's a fantastic stock. From what I can tell (from totally unscientific tests) its latitude is pretty much a match for Portra, and colour-wise sits somewhere in the middle between Portra and Gold. I was going to try it on portraits during a shoot the other week but I ended up shooting Portra. I believe 250D is sometimes available in 120 but is harder to track down. If you wanted to try it in 35mm I always buy it from Nik and Trick in Folkestone (~30 exposures for about £8)... they also do ECN-2 processing for only a couple of quid more than C41.
I’ve recently tried the 250D version in 35mm David and it is a close match for the 400D. I removed the remjet using washing soda and followed with standard C-4- processing. Definitely harder to find in 120 and not as cheap unfortunately.
Great images. Almost has that impressionist look about them. Mystery camera? I’m guessing a pinhole 😂
Thank you. The new camera is a bit more sophisticated (and expensive) compared to a pinhole 😀
Lovely light for the outing. And kudos for taking on the challenge of shooting into it. So often your videos feel like master classes in composition, framing, and lighting. Thanks for the effort you put into them.
Thanks Bob, glad you liked it.
Fantastic images.
A couple of stunners there, always a learning process watching you work :)
Many thanks Lenny.
I'm not generally a fan colour film but the muted tones are really delightful. And the photo at 3 min (the tree trunks in water) is wonderfully other worldly.
I also favour B&W but some of these softer colour films are quite attractive.
Loved the photos, I think you should shoot more of 400d sometime
Perhaps, I’m wondering if it’s got enough selling points compared to Porta 400 or 800.
Wow I really liked those photos. Thanks for sharing them .
Glad you like them Jennifer.
Lovely....I have used the both the 400D and the 50D, the latter in strong winter light, I also try to avoid getting too much of the red glow, in summertime the colours with these films tends to become much stronger, but can be controlled by being mindful about it, I like the Cinestill best with medium format. Really loved the second shot with the light, and the frozen lake picture had a nice dreamy feel to it.
I’ve got a roll of 50D I want to try soon, probably in the forest again where the details count more.
Some nice color in the images today, with that film. That shot with all of the sticks I view as an abstract, and I like it. I like the second image with the bright light behind; it works in the square format, as you point out. Thanks for sharing another video, Steve.
Thanks James, it is an interesting film, somewhat akin to shooting with B&W with HP5+ in soft light.
I really like the last image very much. Getting a color image that is interesting in the dead of winter is a real achievement.
BTW, I shoot Kodak Vision 3 stock and shoot it at the rated speed so your Cinestill would be shot at ISO 250. Then I develop at home with C41 chemistry but add a prewash with a solution of washing soda. I also pull the development time by one stop. This way, the C41 chemistry acts more like ECN2. The result is stunning and with no halation problems. Yes, it does require that I wipe the residual remjet off the negatives with a disposal microfiber cloth before drying.
Thanks Maggie. I’ve recently shot a roll of 250D and also removed the remjet with washing soda, no real issue and no residue. I’ve not tried pulling it though, just gave it the usual 3:15 in C-41 so I’ll probably give that a go on the next roll.
Late to the show, but I'd love to see more photography videos with motion picture film stock.
I have been wanting to take the exact same shots, same settings, on two rolls of Cinestill 50D, two different film backs, and have one developed in C-41, the other in ECN-2 chemistry to see what the difference is.
I did like the results from the various motion picture films and I’m sure there is more to be had by using the appropriate chemistry 👍
Love the colours on these Steve sometimes it's nice to lose the saturation
Thank you 🙂
Really interesting video, the last shot was beautiful. The colours you got have surprised me. I have had a roll of this in my fridge for a while, you have tempted me to give it a go.
Well worth a go, as is the ECN-2 equivalent Kodak 250D.
Always in admiration of your composition skills Steve. Makes me have to look harder at what initially might appear to be an innocuous scene. Intrigued by the new camera 🤔👍📸
Thank you. The new camera is quite a change from my normal formats.
I like the larger formats in colour 📷👍
Definitely, 35mm best for a softer, impressionistic look.
Yeah, nice! It may just be the sunny blue skies above but to my eyes, that film seems to have blueness about the highlights, which I like a lot.
Thanks James.
Thank you for another great video Steve.
You’re very welcome.
Beautiful shots in a place I visit very often. I have to say it has got some good days, but I go home frustrated more often than not. Cheers
It’s a tricky one for me too, only a handful of interesting spots (especially since they started clearing it).
Hard to tell without seeing the print but they look to me like my favourites of your colour work. Easily. Great palette and compositions 👌
Thanks so much 😊
Very much enjoyed these images!
Glad you enjoyed it Tim.
The shot at 5:50 is amazing and I actually don't mind the halations. You should try a roll that doesn't have the remjet layer removed and see if you like it better. This film seems to suit your style very well. 8:18 is awesome too.
I’ve also shot the 250D equivalent recently and that was free from the halation, not too hard to remove the remjet before development either.
Thank you for another interesting video.
You’re welcome 🙂
Having tried the Cinestill, not a fan. But I do appreciate the great video with authentic tests and interpretations. Always worth a watch here. Cheers!
Thanks for watching Nigel, not a film for me at present, probably favour the 250D.
Nicely done. I think the shot of the pond really works well here. The muted colors really suit it.... I have a couple of rolls of this to shoot, as well as a box of 4x5. I'm not sure how I'll get along with it due to halation. Perhaps I can avoid the worst of it if I'm careful, or desaturate the red glow in photoshop after the fact...
I can’t see halation being an issue in subdued light Bryce, that final shot was the only one with the effect and I knew exactly what was going to happen when I shot it.
Yeah that last shot - strong, moody, like it very much indeed.👍
Thank you.
I have heard about that film and may try it; it's just that film takes me a long time to use the roll. Every click costs money and so I find I am hesitant to shoot anything. That is not to say I am waiting for a better thing to shoot, but I kind of am, yet at some point I need to finish the roll. Plus the processing is costly. I think all that is why I shoot digital.
Good video, good information. Personally, I think you have one of the best photography channels out there. Your analysis of your images is quite good and makes one think about framing with an eye to a purpose.
Best wishes!
Thanks for the kind words and feedback. I also struggle with the cost and convenience (lack of) when it comes to film, particularly colour.
Thanks for sharing. Not sure how to opine on cinestill in the landscape.
I actually prefer the first ´blinding light’ shot, even the halation!! Love the soft colours of the film, similar to Portra. Thankyou once again, Steve.
Thank you 🙂
I've developed a real liking for Motion Picture Film, in particular the Vision 50D which can be obtained for reasonable cost. Put on a tripod it can capture very detailed images and I have picture of Truro Cathedral Nave where you really can't see the grain on 35mm. It also does well as a travel film and for documentary.
I’ve got some 50D in 120 and want to try it in the forest as soon as we get some stronger light. I imagine it’s pretty impressive in 135 too.
Interesting Video Steve thank you for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it Steven.
As I understand it 400D is an entirely new film, which unlike other Cinestill films which have remjet removed from motion picture film. 400D is a C41 which has not had remjet or antihalation dyes added in the first place. A logical progression in the simplification of producing a cinematic effect without the faff of remjet removal, I think. I wonder, is this the thinking behind Ilford's new C41 offering?
Certainly an interesting film and good to have as an alternative to the Portra range. Harman 200 is also a welcome addition, only shot one roll but I’ll admit that its character is well suited to urban images.
Loved the images. Hard to say if it's the film, but I like the colors.
Fair enough Dann, it’s got me sat on the fence too.
I’d agree that halation doesn’t really look right for daylight balanced landscapes either, but CineStill 800T at night - now that looks amazing imo.
I’d agree, the halation is what makes 800T so special.
Enjoyable! Loved some of the colors! A new Film, takes time to adjust to! Cost of film, even worse, need for Lab and scan. I can do 35mm scans! A few very good images! Bravo.
Totally agree!
i love the 5:48 photo!
I didn't know that film was available in medium format, I'll have to give it a try. What's the new mystery camera, Instax Evo Mini? 😊
There’s also the Kodak vision 3 version called 250D which is cheaper and doesn’t suffer the halation effects.
@@SteveONions so much choice!
Steve-ie with the bronn-ie on ECN-2-ie. Recip-e for a good video. Great images and really enjoy the local environment videos, because it really shows how creative you can be in somewhere traditionally unremarkable. Inspiring.
Thank you 😊.
Beautifully muted colors. I am curious how it compared to Portra. Cheers!
I think I prefer Portra overall, especially the 800 but there’s a strong case for the 250D Kodak version when you look at the cost difference.
I for one prefer the last image; good one! :-)
Fair enough!
I actually liked the first photo as it was on the video. The photo itself was more desaturated and the colors less true and vibrant much less orange and the yellow less yellow. All compared to the original video--of course. When I shoot 400D I never use it with backlight or any reflective lights because I hate the halation.
It’s a tricky film but I do like the palette. Halation not to my liking unless it’s street lighting.
I love Cinestill 400D in 120 but more expensive than Portra 160, Im testing them both. 5:50 perfect shot
Thanks Chris.
I’ve used 400D and wasn’t impressed. Part of it was my fault as I badly underexposed one roll. That roll was very muddy and had a horrible color cast. The next roll was shot at 400 and looks better but still nothing to write home about. The 3rd roll I shot at 320 in bright full sun and 200 in the shade or lower light. Those weren’t bad but for the price I’ll be sticking with the Kodak Portra and Gold I have in my freezer as there in no real difference in the prices of Kodak and CineStill
I quite like the vision films colours but agree that Portra is still preferable. I’m not keen on Gold on 120, really lacking.
Don’t send the F-16 to Ukraine.
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