A 40-year-old man and a 2-year-old child have been killed after a pram rolled onto the train tracks at a Sydney station. 10 News First journalist Chris Campey joins us.
I'm glad at least one girl survived, the Mum could have lost all 3 of them. I'm glad she has at least one of her daughters to keep her going. The poor family :( I feel so heartbroken for the Mum, the daughter and their family.
In 1998 i witnessed somebody who jumped on the tracks and to this day i can still remember the corpse strewn all over and the little girl who had pieces of the man splatter all over her. I never understood why we never built barriers like they do in many other countries.
No, gravity does not care about these babies falling onto the track. Gravity is a fundamental force of nature that acts uniformly on all objects with mass, regardless of the situation or the individuals involved. The fact that these babies survived is due to a combination of fortunate circumstances, such as the position of their bodies relative to the train and the gaps between the tracks, rather than any influence from gravity itself. Gravity's role in these scenarios is impartial and consistent, pulling the babies toward the ground just as it does with everything else.
As a new Dad of 1 year, this tragedy hits me on another level, so sorry to hear of such an incredible and unthinkable misfortune, I know most Dads would have done the same thing almost beyond choice. There's a huge love highlighted somewhere buried deep in this terrible story and set of circumstances. My heart goes out to the family. And to the mum, I hope your daughter is raised proud of who they were/would be. So sorry to have this happen to you.
I thought about this today as l waited for a train realising that anyone could just come up and push me off. l stood back against the wall. Life can just change in a second. We are so sorry 💔 RIP to the deceased
This sort of maliciousness has happened in the United States as well - in New York city where a woman who worked for the homeless, was actually pushed off the platform right in front of an approaching train - by a drug affected, mentally unstable, homeless guy (see New York Times, January 15, 2022 - :"Michele Go, 40, shoved onto the tracks of a train while waiting on the platform in Times Square, Manhattan". Apparently, she wasn't even standing at the very edge of the platform.)
I don’t know why they can’t put automatic rails on the platform that only come down when the train has stopped. Sure it’ll cost billions but cmon. How much are lives worth?
So tragic - for all. The mother and little girl, of course, but also onlookers and the poor train driver - and first responders. Tragic tragic. Prayers for all involved.
My take away from the comment sections after a rare tragic accident like this is that a lot of people truly believe personal accountability should be over ridden by government control. Scary stuff
Because these days EVERYTHING that everyone does wrong is always someone else's fault and the rest of us should find a solution to their lack of sense and pay for it.
Why in heavens name, in this 21st Century technological world, we still have train stations over 100 years old WITHOUT safety barrier gates that automatically rises upwards, separating the platform from the tracks and protecting the public? When the train arrives and stops, the gates are lowered allowing passengers to disembark and new passengers board. The safety gates are automatically raised again when the train departs, preventing anyone from falling onto the tracks below the platform. Such systems are not new - many countries with a railway system have these already (eg Japan, China. South Korea and even certain Eastern European countries).
why in a world with all the safety features, do people not put the brakes on their pram or hold onto it or make sure that they face the pram away from the slope.
This is just evidence that there is no God. What kind of all good and all powerful being would allow innocent children to die? If he does exist, even with zero objectively verifiable data, then he's either not all good or not all powerful.
Foreign countries like Japan and South Korea put guardrails and barriers up on train platforms, which open only when the train is stationary. These prevent such incidents and require the driver to stop in a designated position to allow the predictable flow of passengers through the barriers. Australia has a "lotsa luck mate" style of train platform, where it's a surprise people don't fall off the platform every other day
Tallwong to Chatswood have them. The new extension has them (opening up 4th August). They are currently adding them between Marrickville and Bankstown, that's why the line has to be shut for up to a year. Every single new station in Sydney will have them. Unfortunately Carlton station was built in 1889, platform screen doors didn't exist then. You will need to do a conversion similar to the Bankstown line. Unfortunately this is politically unpopular - the Bankstown line has been shut most weekends and school holidays in addition to the year long shutdown
those trains do 300+ kph and the safety barricades are only located in very few locations , alot of maintenance and cost plus the high speed train is number one way to decomision ones life in those countries ,they really need them thier . the number of stations is 500-600 in the country , that's a huge budget and months each closed for a renovation .. it would be better to just have more personnel on location and more aleart alarms and more course platform to prevent rolling of trolleys , i agree what you said but it's dosn't like financially practical . plus with the new 50c fair comming in soon,where are they going to get the funds from .
People who have a fear of heights are acutely aware of the danger train platforms present. If one doesn't have that constantly running through their minds while at the station they are being too blase about it. Every time I hop on or off I think to myself: "gotta make this jump" as silly as it sounds for such a small gap, but every bit of focus is required in certain situations akin to riding a motorbike (apparently).
Omg, This is such a terrible tragedy. Sending love, hugs and strength to the family. 😢💜💜🌻 Sending thoughts and prayers also to the train driver and the paramedics .
Geez some of these comments are just so heartless. Humans are not infallible and accidents do happen to even the most careful of people. Have a heart and put yourself in the wife’s shoes for a moment and try to imagine what they’re going through and give thanks you are not suffering like her. Tragic and terrible loss. The poor woman’s lost half of her little family and will probably relive this day over and over how can you un see such a terrible accident Prayers and deep condolences to the poor wife and her baby. God give her strength to carry on for herself and her little girl. 🕊️ ❤
The problem is a lot of people are claiming there needs to be improvements in safety when there needs to be responsibility taken and a recognition that this was entirely preventable with multiple safety features already in place. The whole world shouldn't change around negligence despite how tragic ppl think it is. Certainly shouldn't cost everyone for one persons mistake.
Accidents happen and its sad. But not watching a pram on a train platform. Brakes should have been on or they should have been holding it. Sounds like negligent or careless parenting.
Sure Empathy and understanding of the devastation of the event. But the comments are aimed at the lower whiners who take zero responsibility and blame others for Everything. "Barriers"! "Slope the platform"! Prams where ifbyoundont squeeze they'll don't roll"! "Waaah"!
I know it's early but as a train driver and farther im dumbfounded to see so many people buried in their phones and completely oblivious to their surrounds when zooming past. This might not off been the case but it wouldn't surprise me.
I'm not sure how the father is a hero? Is it only a default judgement for the conscience of the surviving daughter and mother? He launched on the tracks to fix a huge mistake made by himself and partner...not the wind...not the surface of the platform....they let go and stopped watching long enough for disaster to happen...Such a sad and horrific incident and tragic loss of a young life....but who let go of the stroller and how it ended up on the tracks should be exhausted before "Hero" status is granted.....surely..
On the telly they showed the father on his phone and not holding the pram, he didn't put the pram brake on obviously. The mother had stopped to look in a window and was a bit behind him. Yes he tried to save his kids but I wish people would stay off their bloody phones when out and about. I notice that CTV is not being shown anymore.
How do people in this day and age still not put the brakes on their pram or at least point it in another direction since obviously things on wheels will roll, there are literally even announcements on the train screens telling you to always leave the brakes on.
My guess is that they were not from here. It just doesn’t strike me as something an Aussie would forget to do at our train stations? I could be wrong 😑
Its not an "accident" its thoughtless, neglect, you be mindful with pushers at all times on platforms. He is not a hero. It should never have happened. The twin will always feel only half here as twins have a connection
I had a dream about this exact thing last night, was totally shocked to see it on the news today. As a fellow Sydneysider my heart goes out to this poor family. 🇦🇺❤
Amazing that these trains operated for over a century without the kinds of incidents but now all of a sudden there seems to be a rise in these completely avoidable incidents, i wonder what changed. Especially in Sydney. hmmm
@@Atom_gun Indeed, I think its already a false statement. It will be interesting to see how much longer the fallacy holds with the mindless sheep. They do seem still very much asleep begging for more nanny state control solutions to deliberately created problems
It was the fault of the incline of the concrete or a gustof wind? Jesus, when will people accept responsibility. I am an Australian living in Mexico, and face difficulty ensuring security measures on a daily basis. How is it bravery when he let the pram go in the first place?
NO...The worst part is , She know what REALLY HAPPENED and how careless they were. that's the worst part and.. of course, she will now say.. "I'm gonna pay more attention FROM NOW ON and take care of the other one so it never happens again" and of course, she'll tell herself it wasn't her fault Human psychology is an interesting thing
Barrier installation is not expensive, I don’t know why the government doesn’t allow it for Sydney Train (not Metro). By using pre-built barrier, a single weekend is enough for installation and commissioning, per station. Is there a reason that train can’t stop at the same spot everytime?
In some countries access to carriage doors is blocked until the carriages have stopped in front of a sliding door and passenger are allowed through the open gate otherwise there is no access to the platform.
I always pass this station from & to work rest in peace one of twin daughter & husbend. Mother having a double grief, my truly genuinely double condolences & I extremely really meant it
Amen. Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. If we believe that, God will give as eternal life in heaven as a free gift. Not of our works, but by His grace alone. May God bless you.
this will happen again and again no matter what is done by others to prevent it because accidents only take a moment of neglect.. there are notices, announcements, ad campaigns about holding onto prams, applying brakes, using tether straps etc...
I have lived in this suburb for 12 years using the train almost daily. I pushed prams with my kids on this station and there is no way the pram will roll by itself. Not even applying the break locks. Wind? I know it was a sunny day with no wind at all, I live 450m from the station. Barriers are needed on all train stations. CCTV needed to be reviewed.
I heard about this just when my Huawei Watch notified me about this tragic news. I was so shocked! I then immediately looked this up and this made my day super uncomfortable.
It's been said keep your stroller or prams away from the yellow line please listen to what's been said when you go train station. Sorry for your loss may god b with u and da family god bless Jesus name amen.
How many times are we going to see this. Why in the hell there isnt handrails with slide gates is beyond me. Cant have a pool without a code specific fence. Cant walk up stairs higher then 900mm with out handrails. Handrails and fences and barriers all around the station, but nothing where the trains pass by with 2024 zombies standing on the platform watching there phones, air pods in ears not a clue of the environment around them. It seems a very easy fix to me..
I can only imagine how Mum is feeling right now. Absolutely gutt wrenching!!!! The real physical pains that accompany a severe emotional shock. I wish I could could give her a hug 😢 1 little girl who will feel half complete for the rest of her life! Unfortunate tragic accident and we ALL have our heart stopping moments with our Children 100% XOXOXOXOXOXO
So every time you take your hands off the pram you put the breaks on? How do we know he or the mum wasn’t holding the pram then they went to get something out of the bottom part? How do you know they weren’t getting a snack from their nappy bag, you weren’t there yet you just want to blame someone for a tragedy instead of being a decent human.
QLD train stations have a large yellow line you stand behind - about 2 metres away from the train. I'm a health care worker of over 40 years. I told a young Mum on a mobile she was standing too close to the train platform edge, just in case somebody accidentally pushed her, etc. She turned around & told me to eff off & mind my own business. She was swearing on the train at everyone looking at her. Child safety is EVERYBODYS BUSINESS!!!
So tragic my heart goes out to all of the victims especially the train driver as well. Please everybody just remember when you have prams put the brakes on or have the little black strap around your wrist. It's so sad that the mother lost a beautiful child and a husband. My thoughts are with the little girl on hair recovery from this tragic incident.
I saw someone let go of a loaded shopping trolley in a steep car park years ago. A minute later they looked around puzzled wondering why the wheeled shopping trolley was no longer there. Some people actually struggle with the idea of wheels and slopes.
@@blessedtobealive people let go of prams whenever they feel it is safe to do so. If they really knew it was dangerous they would have put a brake on before letting go. It is lack of awareness that is the issue, not distraction.
@@blessedtobealive OH I don't know...Your PHONE maybe? Not saying that's what happened in this case but people really do need to start taking their face out of the device and pay attention to what is going on around them They have zero situational awareness anymore.
@@glennjgroves Why wait to know it's dangerous before putting the brake on before you let go. Common sense would be putting the damn brake on anyway in case. Perhaps let go to scroll up phone screen? Maybe not but still let go without applying the brakes. People have said it may have been windy. In that case, extra care should have been taken to make sure you hold on to the pram. It's a tragedy and she will never get over it but it was preventable.
Such a sad tragedy, I can only imagine what the family is going through. That's why stations opened after 2019 and indeed the ones opening in 2 weeks have platform screen doors to prevent an incident like this happening.
In Perth I caught the train to the CBD every day. I watched a youngish Dad fold up the pram whilst the Mum stayed well back holding bub. The Dad went in first with the pram then beckoned Mum & Bub in when it was safe. I'd often wondered why he did that - now I know why.
As a foreign born resident, I kind of seen this coming, not as much as a simple bit of bump or rumble strip to stop prams and wheeled luggage or wheelchairs. OH&S failures are regularly a fact of life here.
Do you know how many weekends and school holidays the Bankstown line has been down to be able to install the platform screen doors? I'll give you a hint. Every school holiday 12 weeks a year for 4 years at least, and that's not including the 1 extra year between soon and sometime in 2025. And for the Bankstown line conversion it was necessary because they needed the capacity vacated by Bankstown for the airport line. So the barriers was a nice to have but not the main reason why the Bankstown line is converted. Sydney Metro is automated single type of rolling stock unlike trains. They can align with the PSDs with accuracy something that the current trains can't do. Sydney Metro uses the newer standard of railway signalling communications based train control which isn't available for our train network. Also we have many different trains and the doors are everywhere so they can't align anyway
@@TomHommus what you said does make sense. Wouldn’t that mean to introduce better safety we will have to overhaul the current control system? Do you think permanently fixed gates along with some mechanism that ensures all the doors aling with the opening left would work?
@@xxblackjamxx4368 just to add our train network used old style traffic light signals so think of a track and divide it in blocks when a train occupies a block the signal is red, so no other trains are allowed on. Like traffic lights for roads no accidents if they are obeyed. Sydney metro and cross river rail and Melbourne metro tunnel (new sections only for the latter two) are using CBTC where the train communicates directly with the other trains on the line (and stations itself) that's how it knows where to position the doors and how the metro can drive itself without crashing into the train in front. From when I was on it I don't think Sydney metro even has the traditional traffic signals at all.
Seen it time and again most Fathers are too relaxed until something like this happens dont let carelessness get you to this point, prevention is always better
As sad as it is train stations need a speed hump a metre from the the edge of the platform to help stop this type of incident happening in the future.❤
Imagine how many people would trip on that and end up on the tracks. Might need to rethink that one. What is on the Sydney Metro (the glass walls at the platform edge) and which is also used at so many train stations around the world is the answer. Cheap, simple, 100% safe.
People make mistakes, Heidi. Even you, the most perfect being on Earth. Safety features should be in place to prevent people from dying because of such mistakes.
@@T0m1sA mistake is “oops I put bbq sauce on my hotdog instead of tomato”. It’s not “I let go of a pram and let my kids fall onto train tracks to die”. That’s called egregious neglect.
So, where is my tax going? No matter how much GST and personal income tax I paid, this government has yet to prevent this type of incident from happening again. By the way, I have never seen anything like guardrails and barriers in Adelaide train stations.
All that tax payer money the government spent on putting up barriers between shoppers and cashiers while we were breathing the same air from the same room should have gone towards updating all train stations and level crossings and school crossings. I'm genuinely devastated for this mother now left to mourn all alone, and her life forever changed 💔 😪
It's a miracle that the one girl survived
I'm glad at least one girl survived, the Mum could have lost all 3 of them. I'm glad she has at least one of her daughters to keep her going. The poor family :( I feel so heartbroken for the Mum, the daughter and their family.
In 1998 i witnessed somebody who jumped on the tracks and to this day i can still remember the corpse strewn all over and the little girl who had pieces of the man splatter all over her. I never understood why we never built barriers like they do in many other countries.
It’s not a miracle. Babies often survive these type of disasters, because of their size.
No, gravity does not care about these babies falling onto the track. Gravity is a fundamental force of nature that acts uniformly on all objects with mass, regardless of the situation or the individuals involved. The fact that these babies survived is due to a combination of fortunate circumstances, such as the position of their bodies relative to the train and the gaps between the tracks, rather than any influence from gravity itself. Gravity's role in these scenarios is impartial and consistent, pulling the babies toward the ground just as it does with everything else.
@@deezeed2817 So sorry to read that you witnessed something so horrific. I am sure the images never leave you.
As a new Dad of 1 year, this tragedy hits me on another level, so sorry to hear of such an incredible and unthinkable misfortune, I know most Dads would have done the same thing almost beyond choice. There's a huge love highlighted somewhere buried deep in this terrible story and set of circumstances. My heart goes out to the family. And to the mum, I hope your daughter is raised proud of who they were/would be. So sorry to have this happen to you.
What happened?
A lovely, thoughtful response Michael. May you and your child stay safe always.
@@maggiematthews3517 what happened?
@maggiematthews3517 Thanks Maggie. 🙏 You too!
@@MrMichaelrichards What happened? Sorry I'm blind my voice Ai cut off.
I thought about this today as l waited for a train realising that anyone could just come up and push me off. l stood back against the wall. Life can just change in a second. We are so sorry 💔 RIP to the deceased
Yes i always stand or sit against the wall ever since i saw people were getting pushed in Japan.
This sort of maliciousness has happened in the United States as well - in New York city where a woman who worked for the homeless, was actually pushed off the platform right in front of an approaching train - by a drug affected, mentally unstable, homeless guy (see New York Times, January 15, 2022 - :"Michele Go, 40, shoved onto the tracks of a train while waiting on the platform in Times Square, Manhattan". Apparently, she wasn't even standing at the very edge of the platform.)
I don’t know why they can’t put automatic rails on the platform that only come down when the train has stopped. Sure it’ll cost billions but cmon. How much are lives worth?
Exactly my thoughts as well@@Timbo6669
So sad, prayers to the mother and the families.
God is omnipotent. That means he not only let it happen, it was in his plan. Sick hey
@@jonnawyatt Yeah nah you realize prayers can mean I hope they're okay and not a religious thing right
So tragic - for all. The mother and little girl, of course, but also onlookers and the poor train driver - and first responders. Tragic tragic. Prayers for all involved.
I can't imagine the amount of guilt each person involved must be feeling. My heart goes out to them all.
My take away from the comment sections after a rare tragic accident like this is that a lot of people truly believe personal accountability should be over ridden by government control. Scary stuff
People will blame the government for everything if it means not taking personal responsibility for anything.
Because these days EVERYTHING that everyone does wrong is always someone else's fault and the rest of us should find a solution to their lack of sense and pay for it.
Why in heavens name, in this 21st Century technological world, we still have train stations over 100 years old WITHOUT safety barrier gates that automatically rises upwards, separating the platform from the tracks and protecting the public? When the train arrives and stops, the gates are lowered allowing passengers to disembark and new passengers board. The safety gates are automatically raised again when the train departs, preventing anyone from falling onto the tracks below the platform. Such systems are not new - many countries with a railway system have these already (eg Japan, China. South Korea and even certain Eastern European countries).
That’s a great idea but our government is useless
Wait till you see the Sydney to Melbourne train. My god I will never take that train again
Government needs to save money for other more important stuff, like overseas study trips to learn about railway station safety.
why in a world with all the safety features, do people not put the brakes on their pram or hold onto it or make sure that they face the pram away from the slope.
Money for football stadiums have higher return on investment.
OMG this is so horrific. May God receive Dad and his daughter with open arms.
This is just evidence that there is no God. What kind of all good and all powerful being would allow innocent children to die? If he does exist, even with zero objectively verifiable data, then he's either not all good or not all powerful.
Right !!
Maybe... if god had prevented it, he wouldn't need to receive them
The god who knew this was going to happen?
@@jonnawyatt
Exactly
and... Who ALLOWED It
Foreign countries like Japan and South Korea put guardrails and barriers up on train platforms, which open only when the train is stationary. These prevent such incidents and require the driver to stop in a designated position to allow the predictable flow of passengers through the barriers. Australia has a "lotsa luck mate" style of train platform, where it's a surprise people don't fall off the platform every other day
In between the train is horrible here at Australia you have yo watch not only you but your luggage to
Tallwong to Chatswood have them. The new extension has them (opening up 4th August).
They are currently adding them between Marrickville and Bankstown, that's why the line has to be shut for up to a year.
Every single new station in Sydney will have them.
Unfortunately Carlton station was built in 1889, platform screen doors didn't exist then.
You will need to do a conversion similar to the Bankstown line. Unfortunately this is politically unpopular - the Bankstown line has been shut most weekends and school holidays in addition to the year long shutdown
Maybe watch the video first and itll explain why that wouldn't of worked
those trains do 300+ kph and the safety barricades are only located in very few locations , alot of maintenance and cost plus the high speed train is number one way to decomision ones life in those countries ,they really need them thier . the number of stations is 500-600 in the country , that's a huge budget and months each closed for a renovation .. it would be better to just have more personnel on location and more aleart alarms and more course platform to prevent rolling of trolleys , i agree what you said but it's dosn't like financially practical . plus with the new 50c fair comming in soon,where are they going to get the funds from .
People who have a fear of heights are acutely aware of the danger train platforms present. If one doesn't have that constantly running through their minds while at the station they are being too blase about it. Every time I hop on or off I think to myself: "gotta make this jump" as silly as it sounds for such a small gap, but every bit of focus is required in certain situations akin to riding a motorbike (apparently).
Omg, This is such a terrible tragedy.
Sending love, hugs and strength to the family. 😢💜💜🌻
Sending thoughts and prayers also to the train driver and the paramedics .
Geez some of these comments are just so heartless. Humans are not infallible and accidents do happen to even the most careful of people. Have a heart and put yourself in the wife’s shoes for a moment and try to imagine what they’re going through and give thanks you are not suffering like her.
Tragic and terrible loss. The poor woman’s lost half of her little family and will probably relive this day over and over how can you un see such a terrible accident
Prayers and deep condolences to the poor wife and her baby.
God give her strength to carry on for herself and her little girl.
🕊️ ❤
So this
Yes. There are a lot of nasty comments on this thread. Shame on them.
The problem is a lot of people are claiming there needs to be improvements in safety when there needs to be responsibility taken and a recognition that this was entirely preventable with multiple safety features already in place. The whole world shouldn't change around negligence despite how tragic ppl think it is. Certainly shouldn't cost everyone for one persons mistake.
Accidents happen and its sad. But not watching a pram on a train platform. Brakes should have been on or they should have been holding it. Sounds like negligent or careless parenting.
Sure
Empathy and understanding of the devastation of the event.
But the comments are aimed at the lower whiners who take zero responsibility and blame others for Everything. "Barriers"! "Slope the platform"! Prams where ifbyoundont squeeze they'll don't roll"! "Waaah"!
Ive always wondered why simple spring brakes that must be held open to roll are not a mandatory design standard.
That's a good idea for prams. Like the airport trolleys for luggage where you have to push the handle down to move
They are mandatory in Australia. The Australian safety standards state that all strollers and prams must be fitted with brakes for the wheels.
My condolences to the family, such sad news
I know it's early but as a train driver and farther im dumbfounded to see so many people buried in their phones and completely oblivious to their surrounds when zooming past. This might not off been the case but it wouldn't surprise me.
Jeets and train tracks are attracted like magnets
Definitely a phone involved....
🤢 Poor mum 🤢 poor train driver 🤢 poor paramedics 🤢
don't forget the cleaners...
What about the deceased? Especially the father. Would you have risked your life in the same situation? I'd think not.
@@maryjanedodo poor you
poor everyone except the person who gave his life trying to save his children? you repulsive individual
We have auto braking on luggage trolleys at the airport but not for prams.
What about putting a lip / bump on platform edges to prevent toll aways
@@Ktmfan450 You could, but it's a trip hazard. Also, does stop prams rolling on the footpaths next to cars, at pedestrian crossings etc.
this!
@@ytfytf1265 I see
Maybe this should be legislated as mandatory design rules for all baby carriages going forward
I'm not sure how the father is a hero? Is it only a default judgement for the conscience of the surviving daughter and mother? He launched on the tracks to fix a huge mistake made by himself and partner...not the wind...not the surface of the platform....they let go and stopped watching long enough for disaster to happen...Such a sad and horrific incident and tragic loss of a young life....but who let go of the stroller and how it ended up on the tracks should be exhausted before "Hero" status is granted.....surely..
100%
Vertical grates...train enters station, grates go up. Simple. Grates go down as train departs.
The grate system will fail and the transport disruption would be massive. There is no solution to this, it’s an accident and they happen.
@@musicalman1995 not to mention the costs
Short grates are a prevention with common sense! Wow
No solution is Not a solution you eggs!!
Not helpful for wheelchair users.
On the telly they showed the father on his phone and not holding the pram, he didn't put the pram brake on obviously. The mother had stopped to look in a window and was a bit behind him. Yes he tried to save his kids but I wish people would stay off their bloody phones when out and about. I notice that CTV is not being shown anymore.
Omg I’m so sorry. Unimaginably tragic. I will hug my babies a little closer tonight ❤
YES...and make sure you keep a close eye on the pram when at a station... Huh ?
Train stations are extremely dangerous for everyone just like cliffs are, take extreme care.
How do people in this day and age still not put the brakes on their pram or at least point it in another direction since obviously things on wheels will roll, there are literally even announcements on the train screens telling you to always leave the brakes on.
My guess is that they were not from here. It just doesn’t strike me as something an Aussie would forget to do at our train stations? I could be wrong 😑
Brakes and always, always, strap on wrist!
They can't even aim their car tires toward a curb, people live thoughtless lives
@@clareowens2597 I suppose but even then I dont think its culture specific to apply brakes on a pram or straps
@@clareowens2597what a thoughtless comment.
No slope going toward the tracks. Slope goes away from tracks only. Doesn't have to be steep, just enough to prevent things rolling in that direction.
What about hold a baby Byram. Put the BRAKE on the pram. There is ENOUGH warning at stations. Yellow lines, etc
Sloped towards track so that rain water will drain away
@@cathybaldry7822 carlton isnt, its pretty flat. Alot of sydney trains platforms are actually convex so water flows into centre drainage.
When you buy a pram it comes with a thing called a tether strap. Loop over handle loop over wrist.
Its not an "accident" its thoughtless, neglect, you be mindful with pushers at all times on platforms. He is not a hero. It should never have happened. The twin will always feel only half here as twins have a connection
It’s good that this channel still allows comments. Not like 7news… free speech!
Free speech isn't about what you can say on private platforms.
Lmao this kid doesn't understand what free speech is
They block comments on stories when it suits themselves and delete comments they don't like. Censorship is alive and well.
Yeah what is the deal with blocking comments to videos?
I thought they encouraged engagement.
@toulasantha not in Australia, unfortunately!
I had a dream about this exact thing last night, was totally shocked to see it on the news today.
As a fellow Sydneysider my heart goes out to this poor family. 🇦🇺❤
Amazing that these trains operated for over a century without the kinds of incidents but now all of a sudden there seems to be a rise in these completely avoidable incidents, i wonder what changed. Especially in Sydney. hmmm
And the amount of near misses on the roads I’m seeing now. Hmmm I wonder what it could be
@@Atom_gun It really is a mystery, especially when we are being told Australia is the envy of the world. I wonder if that has something to do with it?
@@JohnJalascertainly won’t be a lasting statement at the current rate of things
@@Atom_gun Indeed, I think its already a false statement. It will be interesting to see how much longer the fallacy holds with the mindless sheep. They do seem still very much asleep begging for more nanny state control solutions to deliberately created problems
@@JohnJalas I have no idea what it could possibly be what's changed? Hmmmm🤔
accidents do happen. he gave his life and saved one of the children, hero.
It was the fault of the incline of the concrete or a gustof wind? Jesus, when will people accept responsibility. I am an Australian living in Mexico, and face difficulty ensuring security measures on a daily basis. How is it bravery when he let the pram go in the first place?
Gee.... I wonder how this could have been avoided?
Poor mother, how horrible to witness this.😢
NO...The worst part is , She know what REALLY HAPPENED and how careless they were.
that's the worst part
and.. of course, she will now say.. "I'm gonna pay more attention FROM NOW ON and take care of the other one so it never happens again"
and of course, she'll tell herself it wasn't her fault
Human psychology is an interesting thing
@@martinkuliza IT WAS THE HUSBAND WHO WAS PUSHING THE PRAM ?
Barrier installation is not expensive, I don’t know why the government doesn’t allow it for Sydney Train (not Metro). By using pre-built barrier, a single weekend is enough for installation and commissioning, per station. Is there a reason that train can’t stop at the same spot everytime?
Why can't the jeets just stay off the tracks 🤣🤣🤣 big problem in India too!!
not all trains are the same, doors won't align
In some countries access to carriage doors is blocked until the carriages have stopped in front of a sliding door and passenger are allowed through the open gate otherwise there is no access to the platform.
heroes don't put their families in that situation
I always pass this station from & to work rest in peace one of twin daughter & husbend. Mother having a double grief, my truly genuinely double condolences & I extremely really meant it
May they rest in peace with our heavenly father ❤❤
Amen.
Jesus Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. If we believe that, God will give as eternal life in heaven as a free gift. Not of our works, but by His grace alone. May God bless you.
May Allah treat him well with Budha and Vishnu ❤
bit presumptuous, if not potentially offensive
Why does everyone automatically go to heaven. Babies sure but...
@@blessedtobealive they don’t (Babies/toddlers, yes) automatically. That’s why I left the gospel in my previous comment, only believers go to heaven.
What hero? If he was a good father, he would never let the pram go esp near the rail without any protection.
So bad news ! Very sorry for that young Dad & his daughter ! My condolences to the Mother & her surviving daughter !
Strollers have safety brakes. Who takes their hands off a stroller at a train station?
Something needs to be done !!! This can't happen again!!
Something was done.
Prams shd be held, and the brake used.
this will happen again and again no matter what is done by others to prevent it because accidents only take a moment of neglect.. there are notices, announcements, ad campaigns about holding onto prams, applying brakes, using tether straps etc...
PRAMS HAVE BRAKES FOR A REASON 🧐
What is the point of stating the obvious? How is that helpful?
@@maryjanedodowhy does it have to be helpful? Your comment wasn't helpful.
@@maryjanedodo well clearly it wasn't obvious to someone
I have lived in this suburb for 12 years using the train almost daily. I pushed prams with my kids on this station and there is no way the pram will roll by itself. Not even applying the break locks. Wind? I know it was a sunny day with no wind at all, I live 450m from the station. Barriers are needed on all train stations. CCTV needed to be reviewed.
Hope the responders are ok
Tragic for the family. And let’s all take a moment of silence for the father who gave his life to save his babies
How could it happen?
wind
Gravity. The platforms are curved towards the tracks.
The brakes clearly were not put on. Nothing else was the issue, not the wind or the slope of the platform
@@Pine_Gap_Island No they are not. It's slightly slanted in the opposite direction so nothing (should) be able to roll onto the tracks.
Let go of stroller and didn't put the break on
I heard about this just when my Huawei Watch notified me about this tragic news. I was so shocked! I then immediately looked this up and this made my day super uncomfortable.
Just make prams that don't move unless being pushed.
that is what the brakes are for
Rest is peace mate and your little princess ❤ I hope your surviving daughter lives to have a fulfilling and amazing life 🙏🏽
It's been said keep your stroller or prams away from the yellow line please listen to what's been said when you go train station. Sorry for your loss may god b with u and da family god bless Jesus name amen.
How many times are we going to see this. Why in the hell there isnt handrails with slide gates is beyond me. Cant have a pool without a code specific fence. Cant walk up stairs higher then 900mm with out handrails. Handrails and fences and barriers all around the station, but nothing where the trains pass by with 2024 zombies standing on the platform watching there phones, air pods in ears not a clue of the environment around them. It seems a very easy fix to me..
I can only imagine how Mum is feeling right now. Absolutely gutt wrenching!!!! The real physical pains that accompany a severe emotional shock. I wish I could could give her a hug 😢
1 little girl who will feel half complete for the rest of her life! Unfortunate tragic accident and we ALL have our heart stopping moments with our Children 100%
XOXOXOXOXOXO
Very very sad courage to the family
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world!!!!!
Strength to the family
This is heartbreaking, may they both rest in peace❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😢
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a tragedy, but what I don’t get is….why in the hell wasn’t the brake on the pram.
Yeah, brakes or someone holding it
People make mistakes, some mistakes you only make once! 😮
So every time you take your hands off the pram you put the breaks on? How do we know he or the mum wasn’t holding the pram then they went to get something out of the bottom part? How do you know they weren’t getting a snack from their nappy bag, you weren’t there yet you just want to blame someone for a tragedy instead of being a decent human.
Heart breaking, RIP.
😭😭😭😭😭. That poor family. I can’t even imagine.
So so very sad
QLD train stations have a large yellow line you stand behind - about 2 metres away from the train. I'm a health care worker of over 40 years. I told a young Mum on a mobile she was standing too close to the train platform edge, just in case somebody accidentally pushed her, etc. She turned around & told me to eff off & mind my own business. She was swearing on the train at everyone looking at her. Child safety is EVERYBODYS BUSINESS!!!
So tragic my heart goes out to all of the victims especially the train driver as well. Please everybody just remember when you have prams put the brakes on or have the little black strap around your wrist. It's so sad that the mother lost a beautiful child and a husband. My thoughts are with the little girl on hair recovery from this tragic incident.
How horrific 😢😢
How? Like a lot
I saw someone let go of a loaded shopping trolley in a steep car park years ago. A minute later they looked around puzzled wondering why the wheeled shopping trolley was no longer there.
Some people actually struggle with the idea of wheels and slopes.
But what would distract you long enough to let go of a pram??
@@blessedtobealive people let go of prams whenever they feel it is safe to do so. If they really knew it was dangerous they would have put a brake on before letting go. It is lack of awareness that is the issue, not distraction.
Not really the time mate
@@blessedtobealive OH I don't know...Your PHONE maybe? Not saying that's what happened in this case but people really do need to start taking their face out of the device and pay attention to what is going on around them They have zero situational awareness anymore.
@@glennjgroves Why wait to know it's dangerous before putting the brake on before you let go. Common sense would be putting the damn brake on anyway in case. Perhaps let go to scroll up phone screen? Maybe not but still let go without applying the brakes. People have said it may have been windy. In that case, extra care should have been taken to make sure you hold on to the pram. It's a tragedy and she will never get over it but it was preventable.
So, so sad.😥
Such a sad tragedy, I can only imagine what the family is going through.
That's why stations opened after 2019 and indeed the ones opening in 2 weeks have platform screen doors to prevent an incident like this happening.
He was the one who let them roll onto the tracks. Yet he’s the hero?
Bravery???How about the focus be on the children ALL THE TIME…
That's a man right there.
such a man! neglecting his children and allowing them to roll onto train tracks! MANLY AF!!!
Easy to say but taking a pram onto a train station is fraught with danger and needs to be avoided if possible..
Hold onto the pram at all times. Doesn't have to be fraught with danger. Stay behind safety lines. Common sense.
V tragic
My heart goes out for this family
In Perth I caught the train to the CBD every day. I watched a youngish Dad fold up the pram whilst the Mum stayed well back holding bub. The Dad went in first with the pram then beckoned Mum & Bub in when it was safe. I'd often wondered why he did that - now I know why.
As a foreign born resident, I kind of seen this coming, not as much as a simple bit of bump or rumble strip to stop prams and wheeled luggage or wheelchairs.
OH&S failures are regularly a fact of life here.
that's heartbreaking
Lock the breaks. His phone was more important than them
R.I.P. fly high in heaven ☮️❤️
I’m so sorry for you
Sydney metro barriers but for the trains
we have them
they work
why not use them???
Do you know how many weekends and school holidays the Bankstown line has been down to be able to install the platform screen doors?
I'll give you a hint. Every school holiday 12 weeks a year for 4 years at least, and that's not including the 1 extra year between soon and sometime in 2025.
And for the Bankstown line conversion it was necessary because they needed the capacity vacated by Bankstown for the airport line. So the barriers was a nice to have but not the main reason why the Bankstown line is converted.
Sydney Metro is automated single type of rolling stock unlike trains. They can align with the PSDs with accuracy something that the current trains can't do.
Sydney Metro uses the newer standard of railway signalling communications based train control which isn't available for our train network.
Also we have many different trains and the doors are everywhere so they can't align anyway
@@TomHommus what you said does make sense.
Wouldn’t that mean to introduce better safety we will have to overhaul the current control system?
Do you think permanently fixed gates along with some mechanism that ensures all the doors aling with the opening left would work?
@@xxblackjamxx4368 just to add our train network used old style traffic light signals so think of a track and divide it in blocks when a train occupies a block the signal is red, so no other trains are allowed on. Like traffic lights for roads no accidents if they are obeyed.
Sydney metro and cross river rail and Melbourne metro tunnel (new sections only for the latter two) are using CBTC where the train communicates directly with the other trains on the line (and stations itself) that's how it knows where to position the doors and how the metro can drive itself without crashing into the train in front. From when I was on it I don't think Sydney metro even has the traditional traffic signals at all.
Seen it time and again most Fathers are too relaxed until something like this happens dont let carelessness get you to this point, prevention is always better
All the love too that family
brave father.. sad.. rip..
Can the platform design improved to prevent something like this happen again? Like a small ramp or slab uphill
father is hailed as a hero but how tf did he let go of the pram bruh.
As sad as it is train stations need a speed hump a metre from the the edge of the platform to help stop this type of incident happening in the future.❤
Or maybe they shouldn't make it slope towards the tracks.
if only there was like a thing on prams where u can make the wheels stop and make them not roll, like a brake or something
@@squidwardtenticles8851 Don't they already have that? I think every pram has that. Unless you're being sarcastic 🤣
Imagine how many people would trip on that and end up on the tracks. Might need to rethink that one. What is on the Sydney Metro (the glass walls at the platform edge) and which is also used at so many train stations around the world is the answer. Cheap, simple, 100% safe.
@@PlayShorts3your IQ is just high enough to detect sarcasm. Congratulations
God this is so sad 😞
Wow. Some classic algol placements there
Brakes werent put on the pram im taking it?
People make mistakes, Heidi. Even you, the most perfect being on Earth. Safety features should be in place to prevent people from dying because of such mistakes.
@@T0m1ssafety features to save potential Darwin Award winners like you from getting their medals?
@@T0m1sis that a yes to the question?
@@T0m1sA mistake is “oops I put bbq sauce on my hotdog instead of tomato”. It’s not “I let go of a pram and let my kids fall onto train tracks to die”. That’s called egregious neglect.
@@blessedtobealive - it's a "duuuh". Do you need a team of police detectives to tell you the brakes weren't on?
Devastating 💔
Utterly tragic but entirely preventable.
There’s a strap on a pram for a reason…
I’ll get a strap on for you….
TAKE THE PROPHET OFF THE AIR!
So, where is my tax going? No matter how much GST and personal income tax I paid, this government has yet to prevent this type of incident from happening again. By the way, I have never seen anything like guardrails and barriers in Adelaide train stations.
Rip dad & daughter❤❤❤ wow
All that tax payer money the government spent on putting up barriers between shoppers and cashiers while we were breathing the same air from the same room should have gone towards updating all train stations and level crossings and school crossings. I'm genuinely devastated for this mother now left to mourn all alone, and her life forever changed 💔 😪
So how do you get a man into the pram
dad had one job smh
My condolences!😢 I live @ Kogarah nxt suburb
Didn’t ask where you live. Nobody asked
how does this happen?
Easy with absent minded people.
wind
@@robertbslee4209 what a hideous comment. go phuck yourself
@@Lmclean89even if it was the wind, what was the dad doing though? Not blaming him, just curious.
@@anewcreature7 probably putting something in the bin or checking train map idk
Oh no😢
The father was my relative 😢
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
R.I.P.