Holden really has no right to be jealous. He can't have it both ways. He's the one pushing Lily away, and he expects her not to try to be comforted by her friend? Come on.
@eava123...the necklace is Luke's not Van's. As Van explained during Luke and Noah in Paris, the actors are not allowed to wear their own jewelry or clothes on the show.
Why is it that every time Luke goes through a really tramautic experience and gets out of the hospital, his parents decide that's the best time to break him the news that they're having problems or getting a divorce and making everything about them instead of being there for him together?
+Juniper Love I hate how holden treats lily and I think Holden needs to back off because Luke is his adopted son not his biological and Lily should make the descisons.
The only reason why Holden is taking his anger out of Lily because he is jealous of Dustin. Not because he is mad at her because she didn't tell him about Important information about Luke father.
Well this was so long ago, I had forgotten how he acted...But then he actually is worse in a few months..lol But it is with the new Lily, so I don't care about them any more..Once they let the old Lily go, I stopped caring about their storyline.
there used to be a set that was Lily and Holden's mansion, not seen since last year though....budget cuts. The farm is not their home, but Holden's mother Emma's place.
hehe if I was llucinda i would have been like "i got a new PT for Luke. There first session is tonite. So can you call noah and tell him to come?" XD i would have laughed so bad
There was a Holden/Lily/Dusty love triangle while they were the teen set, and Lily chose Holden eventually (after much drama) but she always stayed friendly with Dusty. If I remember correctly, Lily lost her virginity to Dusty. Also, at one point, Lily and Holden thought they were related but that turned out only to be through adoption so they are not blood related.
ok holden and lily, i'm pretty sure everyone can hear you guys fighting in whatever building you're in. and dusty...you're clearly a wizard because you just pop out of nowhere. he must ha a stash of floo powder (haha harry potter anyone?)
To agree with some of you had said Luke's dad's really annoying but if anyone come as close as to what he's been I think that by this time all the love you once promised to have forever would die down. To have someone talking over you all the time, deciding what's best for him you know, eventually one gets tired! And it's true, he should take into consideration the fact that she may be doing the right thing, but it's like that little story: you may lie once, and get away, not five times, maybe!
The dad is a total, selfish idiot. His son could possibly not walk ever again, and apparently his marriage issues is way more important than Luke's future. The mother's right. No matter what they're going through, they should've put everything that could harm Luke's recovery in the back-burner.
I can imagine what kids going through when their parents are splitting up,or making it final with a divorce but 2 people not being in love and fighting,screaming at each other all the time has the worst effect on their children.
when I started watching this.... I noticed that I'm like Luke, gay, but not the girly type..when I love,, I just care too much on that person, so much that it hurts me... and in the last episode,,, the way Luke feels sorry for himself.... that is just like me.... I experienced the bestfriend thingy(Luke with Kevin)... I just wonder when will my Noah come...
how can luke's dad even be mad that lily is turning to dusty. I mean holden wants a divorce, he's a douchebag in general, so ummm yeah lily is gonna go to he friend if you no longer want to be involved with her
if holden would stop blaming the shit out of lilly maybe just maybe she will stop confiding in dusty for comfort and support!!! gz holden grow up!!!!!!
People with really shit ass luck. like me. i was rendered unable to walk for about 3 months way back and i was struggling with my sexuality. my best friend (we kinda were messing around at the time) wouldnt really come to see me. Twice in the 3 months, i had to beg. And i was on the way to his house when i had my accident, and i really didnt want to go to his house at the time, he begged..
hehehe... you're right.. maybe i'm a little bit frustrated that I want more of the luke-noah story, but it takes so long for the videos to load on my computer (i have the amazing internet connection speed of 100kbps!!!) after all, we need to know some of the background to the story to know what´s going on in luke's and noah´s heads
Who puts their ipod in the highest possible place? Just a thought. Also: Van looks excellent in black. Well, in anything, but in this shirt especially. :)
@menRmemorable yeah its true, I think its ok though...wouldn't you if your son or daughter would be in the same situation?... he is supposed to be 18 here. I guess they have this kind of parent -child relationship because in his teenage years he was about to die with kidney failure and subsequently he had problems with alcohol... I do think the writers pushed the envelope in later years though in trying to keep Luke and Noah as "the boys"...
okay... sooo i've got a question... i started watchign this back in august... so i don't kno all the ATWT history... sooo where do... or did lily and holden live... since now they all minus lily live at the farm
The shirt Luke wears in this is the same one he was wearing in the episode he came out to Will and his parents. I forget how long ago that episode was, but it's been quite a while. I wonder why they would bring back a shirt after all that time?
And also, Holden: I'm doing the best I can. Um, I can assure you that LOADS of us beg to differ, Holden. Lots. & Holden: Well, we make sure we dont fight in front of them. Er, Holden, I might not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I can pretty much garentee that your kids already know that you and Lily are fighting non stop. Just a thought, not a lot of evidence to back it up seeing as how Faith and Luke are discussing it in your kitchen, but you know.
And the drama is always on with Lily and Holden *haha* But seriously, let's give Holden a break. He's been more than wonderful when Luke came out and during that whole year (see "Luke's story"), so we have to let him be a jerk for a while, too...
Faith: It's bad, really bad." Honey, that is the understatment of the centry. It's beyond bad with Lily and Holden. One of them is tearing the family right in half, not naming any names (*cough cough* Holden, you jacka**, *cough cough) Hmm, what? No, I didnt say anything. Nothing at all.
I don't get Holden. He pushes her away and Dusty is the only one offering her comfort and then he gets mad that he's there for her. Make it make sense. Btw Dusty🤣🤣🤣 where the hell he be popping up from😂
meh i dont like how clueless they make faith she keeps saying stuff like i dont know why and asking stupid questions i mean shes like what 11? 12? kids arent that naive
well it still has one of them, and luke is in luke and noah's story. it makes sense to me. I think you're taking the title a wee bit too far. Why is faith in the clip...or even lily and holden?
Is it bad that I think Luke looks extra cute in a wheelchair? Is it? I mean more cute then I have ever seen someone look in a wheelchair. Is that bad to say?
Holden is being kind of irrational, but still, I have sympathy for him because he's probably walked in on Lilly and Dusty hugging as many times as Luke walked in on Noah and Maddie kissing earlier.
Holden: "Lily, I did not move Luke out to the farm to punish you."
Yes Holden, yes you did.
Ugh. It bothers me that Holden even wonders why Lily is looking to Dusty for comfort. Not once has Holden held her. Ugh.
Holden really has no right to be jealous. He can't have it both ways. He's the one pushing Lily away, and he expects her not to try to be comforted by her friend? Come on.
Man, he just comes out of thin air. He REALLY is like a ninja...
@eava123...the necklace is Luke's not Van's. As Van explained during Luke and Noah in Paris, the actors are not allowed to wear their own jewelry or clothes on the show.
Dusty just pops up out of no where....
😂 yeah
Why is it that every time Luke goes through a really tramautic experience and gets out of the hospital, his parents decide that's the best time to break him the news that they're having problems or getting a divorce and making everything about them instead of being there for him together?
+Juniper Love I hate how holden treats lily and I think Holden needs to back off because Luke is his adopted son not his biological and Lily should make the descisons.
And holden wonders why lily's drifting to dusty, YOU'RE PUSHING HER THERE
Luke and Faith cute... Faith is soo much more mature then her age...
no wonder lily is falling for dusty. holden keeps pushing her away. what a douche, my favorite word for him. gotta love Lucinda
LOL - its like the second Holden is gone - Dusty swoops in like 2 seconds later to comfort her.....thats soaps for ya!
Luke is totally owning that shirt.
and Holden is pushing Lily away...and enter Dusty.
The only reason why Holden is taking his anger out of Lily because he is jealous of Dustin. Not because he is mad at her because she didn't tell him about Important information about Luke father.
Holden is just jealous of dusty because he knows dusty would he so much better for her than him
These videos Are terrible YES.
That's the shirt Luke was wearing when he first came out
Dusty freaks me out when he pops up out of nowhere lol He is always just BAM there haha
I wouldn't mind a Dusty waiting in my wings to step in as required ;)
Which he stills wears, if you look closely you will always notice that Van wears one.
I can't wait for Holden to crawl down of his cross..
Well this was so long ago, I had forgotten how he acted...But then he actually is worse in a few months..lol But it is with the new Lily, so I don't care about them any more..Once they let the old Lily go, I stopped caring about their storyline.
@Konniechiwa, I know in the yesteryear's they never consider an 18 year old an adult until they were 21, but those days were dead and gone.
everyone in this show walks in on some hugging/kissing and then gets pissed off.
there used to be a set that was Lily and Holden's mansion, not seen since last year though....budget cuts. The farm is not their home, but Holden's mother Emma's place.
dusty arrives out of nowhere scary
hehe if I was llucinda i would have been like "i got a new PT for Luke. There first session is tonite. So can you call noah and tell him to come?" XD i would have laughed so bad
There was a Holden/Lily/Dusty love triangle while they were the teen set, and Lily chose Holden eventually (after much drama) but she always stayed friendly with Dusty. If I remember correctly, Lily lost her virginity to Dusty. Also, at one point, Lily and Holden thought they were related but that turned out only to be through adoption so they are not blood related.
Is there like a prequel with all this
@gaebuoy your noah will come just be patient but don't look to hard. sometimes it just falls in your lap when least expected. keep your head up
holden is his dad. he adopted him when he was a baby, and biology isnt everything. holden is his dad in every way that counts.
i know!!! i thought i was the only one saw that and thinking that. lol. a necklace can make someone look cute. lol.
ok holden and lily, i'm pretty sure everyone can hear you guys fighting in whatever building you're in. and dusty...you're clearly a wizard because you just pop out of nowhere. he must ha a stash of floo powder (haha harry potter anyone?)
oh wow, he IS wearing a necklace ^_^ i wonder wat kind? if its just a chain or does it have something on it like casey's ?
i love how dusty keeps calling tea "that herbal stuff" lol
Uh, Luke can't go back home...they tore down the set.
To agree with some of you had said Luke's dad's really annoying but if anyone come as close as to what he's been I think that by this time all the love you once promised to have forever would die down. To have someone talking over you all the time, deciding what's best for him you know, eventually one gets tired! And it's true, he should take into consideration the fact that she may be doing the right thing, but it's like that little story: you may lie once, and get away, not five times, maybe!
The dad is a total, selfish idiot. His son could possibly not walk ever again, and apparently his marriage issues is way more important than Luke's future.
The mother's right. No matter what they're going through, they should've put everything that could harm Luke's recovery in the back-burner.
Only on tv shows is when people say keep the change lol nd wats up wit Dusty poppin up everytime Lily nd Holden are done arguin???
@watcvid Was there ever any reference made to the necklace? I haven't seen it in other eps?
I just remember the Dusty, Lilly and Holden triangle as teenagers in the 1980s.
Yes, I remember and what a great storyline, too....Summer of '86
It was the same characters except for Dusty who was played by Brian Bloom, at the time.
Why cant they have soap operas like this in Portugal? GOD -.-
Yeah, dead serious man, that happened.
thanks so much. no atwt in l.a. so this is my best access.
once again~~thanks for uploading~~
I can imagine what kids going through when their parents are splitting up,or making it final with a divorce but 2 people not being in love and fighting,screaming at each other all the time has the worst effect on their children.
After Holdens behavior I think Dusty and Lily might make a good couple.
when I started watching this.... I noticed that I'm like Luke, gay, but not the girly type..when I love,, I just care too much on that person, so much that it hurts me... and in the last episode,,, the way Luke feels sorry for himself.... that is just like me.... I experienced the bestfriend thingy(Luke with Kevin)... I just wonder when will my Noah come...
how can luke's dad even be mad that lily is turning to dusty. I mean holden wants a divorce, he's a douchebag in general, so ummm yeah lily is gonna go to he friend if you no longer want to be involved with her
thank you so much!!!
i couldnt watch this because we were evacuated :(
if holden would stop blaming the shit out of lilly maybe just maybe she will stop confiding in dusty for comfort and support!!!
gz holden grow up!!!!!!
People with really shit ass luck. like me. i was rendered unable to walk for about 3 months way back and i was struggling with my sexuality. my best friend (we kinda were messing around at the time) wouldnt really come to see me. Twice in the 3 months, i had to beg. And i was on the way to his house when i had my accident, and i really didnt want to go to his house at the time, he begged..
hehehe... you're right.. maybe i'm a little bit frustrated that I want more of the luke-noah story, but it takes so long for the videos to load on my computer (i have the amazing internet connection speed of 100kbps!!!)
after all, we need to know some of the background to the story to know what´s going on in luke's and noah´s heads
I am loving the Lily/Dusty friendship and I hop it turns into more... Lily deserves better then Holdumb!
Wow, Faith is acting more grown up then almost any of the grown ups in Oakdale!
Who puts their ipod in the highest possible place? Just a thought.
Also: Van looks excellent in black. Well, in anything, but in this shirt especially. :)
i think faith will grow up to be a fortune teller since she always seems to know EVERYTHING.
@menRmemorable yeah its true, I think its ok though...wouldn't you if your son or daughter would be in the same situation?... he is supposed to be 18 here. I guess they have this kind of parent -child relationship because in his teenage years he was about to die with kidney failure and subsequently he had problems with alcohol... I do think the writers pushed the envelope in later years though in trying to keep Luke and Noah as "the boys"...
okay... sooo i've got a question... i started watchign this back in august... so i don't kno all the ATWT history... sooo where do... or did lily and holden live... since now they all minus lily live at the farm
"We just have to make sure we don't fight in front of them." Um, too late, guys. Your kids are pretty aware of what's going on.
The shirt Luke wears in this is the same one he was wearing in the episode he came out to Will and his parents. I forget how long ago that episode was, but it's been quite a while. I wonder why they would bring back a shirt after all that time?
wait wasnt luke just in a hos[ital bed like one part ago? now he is just out? they didnt make a huge deal out of it?
Has anyone noticed that Luke's wearing the same sweatshirt he had on when he came out to Will
And also, Holden: I'm doing the best I can. Um, I can assure you that LOADS of us beg to differ, Holden. Lots. & Holden: Well, we make sure we dont fight in front of them. Er, Holden, I might not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I can pretty much garentee that your kids already know that you and Lily are fighting non stop. Just a thought, not a lot of evidence to back it up seeing as how Faith and Luke are discussing it in your kitchen, but you know.
i feel so bad for Dusty. he gets punched and blamed...
Yeah, Van's a dream like Randy in QAF. He's a very good actor too.
who puts an ipod on top of a cabinet....something small but watched this so much i've started to see the small things lol
I like how Dusty just showed up like out of nowhere
@brittanynicolesmall yea it's a nice thin necklace..
And the drama is always on with Lily and Holden *haha*
But seriously, let's give Holden a break. He's been more than wonderful when Luke came out and during that whole year (see "Luke's story"), so we have to let him be a jerk for a while, too...
Faith: It's bad, really bad." Honey, that is the understatment of the centry. It's beyond bad with Lily and Holden. One of them is tearing the family right in half, not naming any names (*cough cough* Holden, you jacka**, *cough cough) Hmm, what? No, I didnt say anything. Nothing at all.
I think she's 11/12. I remember watching a video that was from earlier this year. I think Lily said she was 11.
That's not going to be his physical therapist. Lucinda got him a new one.
holden is so uptight, he is so jealous. probably going througha mid-life crisis
Well thank you so much. Could have used you 7 years ago : )
I know right
too the words of my mouth
I don't get Holden. He pushes her away and Dusty is the only one offering her comfort and then he gets mad that he's there for her. Make it make sense. Btw Dusty🤣🤣🤣 where the hell he be popping up from😂
yep...
It's really a good drama
Lol, YES. And Noah is Luke's soulmate :D
does luke wear a neckless ?
meh i dont like how clueless they make faith she keeps saying stuff like i dont know why and asking stupid questions i mean shes like what 11? 12? kids arent that naive
i jist notices that when luke talks to faith , he's wearing a necklace
I know...where the heck did he come from where they couldn't see him?
Where the hell did Dusty come from?
guardian angel :)
yah thx... i was just like i've nvr seen any other house besides the farm house owned by the grandmother
is anyone else sick of watching the parents fighting and just want to see more makeout scenes with luke and noah?
Does Luke remind anyone else of Justin from QAF? He has the Sunshine smile and everything!
Luke's sister looks so much like Ginny Weasley.
where the hell did dusty come from?!?!?! O_o
well it still has one of them, and luke is in luke and noah's story. it makes sense to me. I think you're taking the title a wee bit too far. Why is faith in the clip...or even lily and holden?
eagle-eyes
Is it bad that I think Luke looks extra cute in a wheelchair? Is it? I mean more cute then I have ever seen someone look in a wheelchair. Is that bad to say?
Ok, that food order for Luke is full of greese, not good for him...lol
Is it just me or is Dusty almost always there when they argue? I mean in the hospital he was there and he just popped in out of nowhere right now....
who in their right mind would put the ipod on top of the highest cupboard......hahahahaha........soap opera
Actually, I think faith was aged recently, maybe it was 2006, but I think she was aged to be born in 93. That would make her 13/14.
@ab4mcfly and...luke wearing a necklace. see the shiny around his neck...
@zickselman I was JUST about to type the exact same thing.
LOVE these comments!
yey swedish food ^^
Wow... I think we can all agree. Why couldn't we?
Holden is being kind of irrational, but still, I have sympathy for him because he's probably walked in on Lilly and Dusty hugging as many times as Luke walked in on Noah and Maddie kissing earlier.