LGR - Blackthorne - DOS PC Game Review
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- One of Blizzard's earlier and more forgotten titles, Blackthorne can be described as Prince of Persia with a shotgun. VENGEANCE.
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VENGEANCE! RETIRBUTION! BATMAN!
Was having a bad day, was my birthday, difficult customers... bad day... but seeing this video brought back memories... thank you... made my day... or night... morning? whichever... thanks...
Hope you feel better now 7 years later 😉
Also hope that you learned adding ellipsis everywhere is not only incorrect, but annoying as all hell.
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Difficult customers? Sometimes vengeance is the only answer! ;)
You know, I've played Blackthrone for like a decade and a half on-and-off on the PC and SNES and the grid system of movement never even occurred to me. The game always tricked me into thinking that it was more fluid than it really was, mostly because the platforming sprites aren't as rigidly standardized as, say, Super Mario Bros or Prince of Persia for that matter. This is both a good and a bad thing.
LGR, I love it when your reviews do this kind of deconstruction of gameplay elements. :)
Love the mentioning of the Pit of Carkoon, it was inevitable.
Blackthorne for Heroes of the Storm would be pretty ballin'.
Even with all of its flaws, I LOVE this game. Own the Mac, PC and GBA versions to this day.
Comic Nerd Note: the cover art and enemy designs were done by the legendary JIM LEE!
Also, if you have the MacPlay CD version, pop it into a music CD player and check out not only the soundtrack, but a few extra awesome heavy metal tunes! (tracks 10 and 11) ;-)
You know, I THOUGHT I recognized the style! I would have thought it was Marc Silvestri though, since I would have figured Jim Lee would have been too expensive for then-Blizzard, lol!
Maybe you would know the answer to this question. When I was a kid I played Blackthorne on a Mac G3 and the sound track was different. I have looked up multiple versions of the game and haven't been able to find the right one. The intro music was different than the DOS or Snes versions I have seen on here and the first level had a guitar riff in the music. Do you have any idea where I could find that sound track?
It's like Prince of Persia with guns. 10/10
then...whre'is the princess?
Huh, yeah you're right. I never thought about it, but you're right.
Are you kidding me, minutes and i mean literally less than 30 minutes ago i was checking out images for this damn game. What are you doing LRG
The music is different on SNES version. I like music on SNES version. It sound more darker. Hey LGR, please review other early Blizzard title such The Lost Viking and Rock n Roll Racing!
Blackthorne served as a primary inspiration behind an episode of Community in which the study group must band together in a specially designed RPG game in order to help Pierce Hawthorne(Chevy Chase) claim his inheritance.
A friend gave me an SNES console as he was moving away when I was in high school. No controllers or games... just the console.
Next time I made it to the nearest game store (which was about 5 hours away) I used my hard earned cash to buy some controllers and only had cash for one game. I asked the owner which game he'd recommend and he pulled out this beauty. I thought, looks weird but I'll try it. We started playing it and thought it was crazy awesome!
My brothers and I still quote the enemy grunts when they laugh. "hu hu hu hu, oh!"
Trying out the SNES version, I really did love it. I kind of disagree with it not being great, it's just a game that takes a lot of patience.
What platform is this available for? Thought I would continue the trend of asinine questions already answered in the video.
ARGH
Is it available on the Vectrex? That is the important question. And does it have a special edition with an El Camino model clar included?
useless1997 classic game room fan?
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useless1997 Really, i thought there was a port for the Hyperscan.
>pixel art Prelude
I GET IT
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Lazy Game Reviews Thank you! YOU ARE AWESOME! I love this game and your channel!
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Didn't know about this one. The grid-based movement reminds me of the old Tomb Raider games. Also, the pixels in this video in particular look great--super sharp. I'm curious if you're playing this through dosbox, or battlenet or an old dos system. If it's a modern system, are you doing something special to retain the sharpness of the pixels when you scale the footage to HD for editing?
Are you going to make a review of Oddworld games? I frequently see Abe's Oddysee lying on your shelf in the background when you're showing the game box.
Oh yes.
I remember finishing this game in co-op. By co-op, I mean that a friend would come to my place and we would take turns in playing though the screens, or through lives. We had a small notebook for the progression passwords. I was fun to play, but also fun to watch, especially alternating between the two.
Loved this game. There is blackthone armor in diablo3, I chuckled when I saw thar
practice modddddde gets me every time
O.o
Why repeat the "d" and not the "o"?
How would you even elongate a "d"? (yeah, I heard it :D)
:D - immediate thoughts were that this is a cross between Flashback and Prince Of Persia, as you said. Always makes me think of the amount of times those games were unforgivingly annoying with the moving of characters - as you said. So many times there was a fall onto spikes or into pits and simply dying due to the characters not quite being on the ledges, so annoying to have to keep on restarting. Great review, as always though!
"A blackthorn in your side"...LGR I expected better from you. Kidding aside more oddware please!
More is coming!
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Awesome! Ever consider doing the 3DO Blaster, if you can get one and the appropriate CD drive?
You had me at "shotgun with infinite ammo"
this game is amazing... i played it snes... such a masterpiece
Vengeance..retribution...Batman! :)
Seriously, who thinks the modern Batmen need a crate of throat lozenges?
Firing backwards feature was higly entertaining when I was a kid. I remenber how I talked to a friendly fellow who happened to gave me a grenade. I thanked him and walked forth few steps, fired my gun backwards executing him and walked away never looking back. Total badassness or assholeness.
Haha, I did the exact same thing first time I played this. whoops
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I forgot what they keys did, so I ended up doing that accidentally the first time I played this.
Aww man, I did that all the time as a kid too :P Funny how that was the coolest shit ever for me back then. Blizzard games were/are always pretty metal ahah
keeperxiii
and pretty mental as well
I still love this game and revisit it often. The inventory reset is a necessity for the levels complexity and puzzles. Without it the game would get way too easy much too fast providing no challenge and sucking interest. As for the combat, yes, most of the enemies fight using the same mechanics however, each enemy has their own distinctive pattern which gets progressively more complex as you move forward through the various stages. My only issue with this game: it's the only one. There are no follow ups and Blizzard scoffs at the idea. Even going so far as to throw up and April fools joke a few years ago teasing some ridiculous badassery that will go unrealized.
Yeah I hate that even 6 years later after you made this comment, Blizzard still does not recognize Blackthorne.
I think that Blackthorne for the SNES is the best Blizzard game evah. Superb gameplay (once you learn how to do everything, that is), a great atmosphere and the checkpoints are just at the right intervals to give it the right challenge. This version looks like a good port, but the GBA version is horrific.
I love this game, but Lost Vikings 1 and 2 are my favorite Blizzard Platformers.
I always thought Blackthorne looked like a DOS game, even on Snes. The screen by screen pacing, the intro, the Another World/Flashback vibes, etc.
remember playing a demo version off this from a CD with lots of shareware/freeware games I bought back in the 1990's, having a similar experience as you of being impressed by the graphics and worldbuilding while finding the difficult yet repetitive gameplay more than a little frustrating
Lol I see Sonic R in the background allot in your videos, does that have a reason?
Also what game is that 5th gen prelude from? I flipping love those cars (prefer 4th gen tho) :o
Neverless another awesome video :)
Back when I was 11/12 years old someone installed this game in the computer lab of my school. Of course one of our favorite pastimes was to play through it during the classes, alongside other games.
I always thought this game had some very great graphics for its time, but I also thought the gameplay to be harder (in a not good way) compared to Prince of Persia (that was also available there in our old computer lab), which was a kind of letdown for me personally.
I guess I'm weird - this and Lost Vikings are what I think of when I think about Silicon & Synapse / Blizzard. Their more recent games disinterest me - if I want to play bad games that rip off Warhammer, I'll just go play an actual Warhammer game. And the appeal of Diablo never made sense to me.
Loved this game, But the sound on the DOS version is sooo bad compared with the snes version. ( in my opinion.)
Just got it from Blizzard's site and holy fuck I'm in love with it. Grew up with Lost Vikings 1 and 2 but this is way better IMO
I'll never get tired of that "practice mode" voice
After playing Duke 1 & 2 I'd love to see this get an Evercade release.
I saw that lego island box and I exploded with nostalgia.
Extreme Rock Climbing guy strikes again!
I can't help but attempt to mimic that guy when I see a practice mode option, best announcer ever.
Discovered this game in around '95, A friend had rented it for the SNES and I can remember being instantly sucked in. The ability to execute the other prisoners and the ability to shoot behind you were a huge deal to my then 15 year old mind.. Had never seen a side scrolling game like this before, and honestly it was kinda new concept. nearly 23 years later I still haven't beaten it or found a 'real' snes cart while thrifting or otherwise. Ive introduced this game to a lot of people who had never heard of or played it, once they do they are typically stoked and addicted and cant believe they had never played it . finally though the Magic of my C/L Gamedoctor Sf copier I am able to play and share this game on real SNES hardware. Excellent game, Excellent review. Thanks LGR. Password to level 8 is TJ1F.
Years later reminded me of Gears of War the whole cover and shoot concept I just beat it on an emulator for the first time on my phone
This game blew me away when I was a kid. I think I found it a lot more fun then you did lol but I had never played Prince of Persia or anything like it at the time. Great vid!
I would love to see this reimagined by Blizzard. It would be interesting to see them try and make a single player game again.
This game is free on Blizzard's website. It's kind of buried, but it's there, and it runs great.
Okay....that bit about "not wanting to hang around the pit of Karkoon" made the video for me. Thank you.
The Duke Nukem voice makes me laugh every time.
it looks like a magnificent game, and it strikes a big resemblance to Flashback like you mentioned due to the terrain and the motion is very Prince of Persia-like. thanks for the video!
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On my desk.
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That's a hot tip about Blizzard offering a bunch of classic games for free... I never knew that existed. I cant wait to get off work and see what they got.
I really loved this review Clint. Thank you. Black Thorne is a fantastic game though. I loved it as a small kid!
Oh damn, i loved playing this on the SNES, could never beat the final boss though..
LGR! Why?! Why did you do this? It's midnight and I've just come home from work, thought I'd chill out before bed and saw this video. "Sweet," I thought... until I got to 1:43 ... I.lost.my.shit. I couldn't keep watching because I was laughing too much! >_< I should have guessed, but, I suppose it just took me by surprise.
God I loved this game. Those physics were so cool back then. I miss Abuse too. So much fun! Curious, were you ever a fan of God of Thunder? Would love to see someone do a proper review of that one someday.
Kyle: **Gets shot**
Orc: Hue Hue Hue
I spent countless hours playing this game! Man, it was not easy at those advanced levels!
BLACKTHORN forever!
Okay Flashback was better, but Flashback was better than everything. I didn't expect too much when I first tried Blackthorn but I was surprised. I finished it and if I got to the end it can't be all that bad. I don't remember it being difficult either - once you learned the system and abilities it was more repetetive than anything else. Platform games for me are ALL easy in comparison to Prince of Persia and.... Rick Dangerousssss
It definately reminds me more of Flashback than Prince of Persia, with its "open world" platforming and lush backgrounds. Blackthorne even falls in the exact same way as in Flashback when he gets shot.
I must have rented this several times for the snes when I was a kid. Loved it, definitely one of blizzards gems.
Some of these games would also be good for the AVGN. It would be cool to see you and cinemassacre do some work together, you've got a better voice than Mike and James.
Hah, Gotta love the car joke. Ahh the prelude. Why wont honda bring you back you sporty thing.
i'm curious man, did you notice that origin was giving out wing commander III for free? i went ahead and added it to my library but that copy will take allot of work to run the way i want, even the video is a bit more flaky than i remembered.
Rock 'N' Roll Racing is my favourite oldschool Blizzard game. Just writing this makes me want to play it.
I see that. Judging by your profile picture.
The defenitive edition is even better. 6 years later haha 🙈
You have a great voice for radio :)
Yep Blizzards first ever game, they had 3 games before but Blizzard were called Silicon & Synapse
Honda Prelude and Motley Crue, small things like these make your reviews very enjoyable.
lgr you should try graveyard keeper.
i love it since 1995 or something :)
Goddamn man you review all this old shit I played as a kid...Fatman, Night Hunter, Blackthorne :D Bonus on you!! Also, if you don't already, you should work in radio or audiobook productions. Your voice rules!
This was on the Sega 32X
This was talked about in the video.
Lazy Game Reviews getting pretty sassy lgr
The 32X version also had an extra area which isn't in the SNES/DOS version.
Played the crap out of the 32x version back in the day it was really sweet.Never liked platformers much but this game looked sweet.Also one of the few bright spots in the 32x library.
I liked the game's look and setting, but I never got very far.
Damn, how I loved Blackthorne back in the day
maybe the only blizzard game i really appreciate
The game looks interesting. Have you tried Cosmo's Adventure? I Loved that game and I really wanted to get the second episode, or game or whatever because when I finished it, it was not the end of the story.
Actually, I knew Blizzard for Blackthorne (in the era of Flashback spinoffs)......I didn't even remembered Diablo was by Blizzard back then.
That dune box in the background is sooooo sexy please do a reveiw on it. The spice must flow
I played this on my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. :)
I see a big box Resident Evil 2... where the hell did you find that in such good condition ._.
Goodwill, believe it or not. $3, I was freaking out
O-O
Un-freaking-belieavable.
I've been trying to find a complete box for years ._.
LGR guy, are you ever making a HeXen video? :)
Someday probably, sure
Annoyingly placed checkpoints? Tedious navigation? Finnicky, repetitive timing-based battle? Arbitrary gimmicks to make the game more difficult? This game must be the predecessor to Dork Souls, then.
Ah I remember this. I think I've got this on an old XBOX disc full of SNES roms. Its an alright Prince of Persia & Flashback clone, but just wasn't "alright" enough for me to get into it like I did PoP & FB. Nosferatu was another goodlooking one, but again, I just couldn't get into it.
they even use the same rolling grenade on the floor weapon? lol
I barely remember playing this a couple of times, back in the day or to be more exact around 94 or so. Interesting game.
This is a sweet game. Word of warning though: the SNES version (at least some batches of it) is censored and much harder due to trickier (aka, poorly designed) jumps, which were later tweaked to be more accessible. If you're going to play it, I say play the PC version, which has blood in it (and is free, as LGR said).
Really nice video, and it's not listed, can I get a 75 cents discount for one Red Baron Pizza?
There are 2 games I couldn´t finish...Doom2 (because of the final boss) and Blackthorne, because theres a impossible jumping part, after a few week I gave up =/
I actually played this, and I liked it. I wonder why it has been listed just now, but yeah, thank you for doing so!
P.S: Please do Crusader No Remorse and No Regret if you haven't done before! :)
This game was my childhood!
LGR, I just want to say I liked the video before even hitting play. Blackthorne RULES! I played the hell out of it on the SNES. SO bad ass!
I see a Dune big box at the beginning of the video. Are you going to review that? It was the first major game I played, before Doom, before anything else. Love it to this day and replay it quite occasionally too. Also love Frank Herbert's Duniverse to begin with, so it was kind of a given, but that game blended adventure, micromanagement, strategy, diplomacy in an age when most games were painfully single minded. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Looks like Blizzard definitely got some inspiration from Flashback...although that's not a bad thing. I might give this one a try, that was one of my favorite platformer/adventure games.
my first played game on a 386SX-25MHz with 4 MB RAM....
Awesome game. Wish I would have saved the box for the game back in the day.
THE WHOLE ENTIRE GAME IS LESS THAN 2.88MB WHATTT????!!
DaYAM! Games were legit back then
Didn't realise that Fatman made music for this game. He sure did some awesome music for games back in the day, like Wing Commander-series, Ultima Underworld and The 7th Guest.
fantastic game for the snes. might not be the type of action that works for some people but if you likes Odd's world or prince of persia then this game is great ! the hiding and shotgun are really fun to use
I've never played this game. Not for lack of effort.
The PC version never worked on my computer though it met all of the requirements. and the used console version I picked up just could not get past a glitchy title screen.
One little tidbit I want to add is that while the SNES version is considered the "original", it's heavily censored. Unlike the MS-DOS version there's little blood and the death animations are far more bloody in the DOS port. It's one of the reasons I prefer the DOS version, it feels grittier and more realistic as a result.
i remember playing this on a Pentium 2 with 64 mb of RAM, even thought i never finished this game (stupid combat made me quit and delete this friggin game).
interessting game. I have the snes version, but the odd/inconsistant control sceme kinda puts me off. I think the controls are a bit complex, if they where a bit simpler, this game would have been a winner.
I remember playing the demo for Blackthorne when I was a kid... and thinking it was both cool and annoying at the same time. Wonder if I'd still feel that way?
Hmmm, there was a less colored version? or my monitor back then sucked?
But yet again, you made me remember a game that i always wanted to remember what it was called and i couldn't. Thanks man!