I think the biggest plot twist is making the murderer as much unpredictable as possible. There's an anime called Kindaichi case files and the writers of it have gone absolutely insane. (Almost) each and every case has an impossible crime, the criminal having an alibi and the criminal being the someone whom people literally forget while suspecting people even though all the clues pointing to the culprit were given.
YA Thriller author here, the best plot Twists are these which were always there, so small seemingly hints of details fall all together in the end. Therefore everything seems to be planend and always there (Harlen Coben and Karen M McManus have perfectionated it)
you’re the best help i found while planning my mystery novel. i love your channel so much! it’s always so easy to understands and saves my motivation when i think i can’t fix my plot 😍❤️
@@janekalmes I did. I like to write stories *with* mystery but have never written an outright mystery and when I watch your videos, it seems so logical and easy.
I’ll start out by saying that I love your videos! I’m currently studying my way through your back catalog as I work on my first cozy, and it’s helping tremendously. Thank you!! I have always had a fascination with other people’s bookshelves, and there are two books on your shelf that have caught my attention in many of your videos. One is titled “Deceit” something and has cranes(?) on the cover and the other is “Zoetropes”. It’s driving me crazy that I can’t read the fine print well enough to look up the books. Could you help me put this little OCD to rest? Thanks!
James, thank you so much! The first book is Deceit and Other Possibilities by my friend and critique partner, Vanessa Hua. I definitely recommend it! It has a new cover now. You can find it, and her latest novel, A River of Stars, anywhere you find books. The second is a collection of short stories from the Californian literary fiction magazine, Zoetrope. They are still publishing, but I wouldn't be surprised if this particular anthology has gone out of print; it's from way back in 2000.
I love your videos, but I'm still struggling because my book is an urban fantasy murder mystery, so how do I add a twist in a story that involves magic?
Hi! I'm not Jane, but have you considered a translative approach to plotting? That is begin with the kind of murder mystery type you'd like to write and create using the kind of clues, tools, weapons, and relationships you'd see in a regular mystery - then simply determine which of those things can be made more interesting or dramatic with magic and which of those things would be better off without and then reverse engineer your scenes to do so. Especially helpful if you are still developing your magic systems/world building. The key is to effectively communicate whatever you translate into your worlds social understanding to your readers. Something to consider
I am telling.my own character sketch in my story, so people can aware of how I pass myself from different event in my story telling idea 💡 through this story, so many things wanted to create which was happened in my life, It is a TRUE 👍 story I don't want to show. Y miserable life but wanted to show reality,my ambition my life just I am living right now, ✅️ I don't expect anything but also learning something, not only in written but tools that is running up with us. People learnt through the video but they are only listener, while I am listening from different expertise and try to bounce back in my own way. #SUBHASH.
Thanks again for another informative video. Quick question(fantasy/mystery). Any tips on writing a mystery where the investigator(pov character) is the killer, but doesn't realise they where due to being controlled via a magic mastermind.
Cool idea! It seems like the big challenge here is making sure the reader's reaction, on learning the twist, isn’t “WHAT?!” but rather, “WHAT?!… Oh, of COURSE!” That is, after the initial surprise, you want them to start putting together the details that make everything add up. My initial thought is simply that you want to make a list of the things your reader will need to understand in order to make your twist make sense. Things like: Magical masterminds are a possibility The protagonist is vulnerable to/likely to be targeted by a magical mastermind The protagonist has missing time gaps Evidence suggests the protagonist was at the scene of the crime These are just examples, but whatever facts your reader will need to know, make a list, and create clues to each one. Here’s a video to help: th-cam.com/video/GNR0g60m0EI/w-d-xo.html If you’re up for a big project, you might read Moriarty by Anthony Horowitz, which has a big shocker at the end,.. then go through it and make a list of all of the info the author communicated that helped the ending make sense.
@@janekalmes Thank you very much for the detailed response, I hope you channel continues to grow from all the hard work you are putting in. I will keep these tips in mind and will add the book you recommended to my list. Currently reading a post apocalyptic graphic novel called animosity were the animals become sentient and begin exacting their revenge against humanity would highly recommend. I like reading graphic novels as they help me with writing dialogues and making each voice distinct.
Hi Jane, love your knowledge and delivery. One request: maybe not talk so fast. I get you're trying to make your tips quick and painless, but frankly, I find them a bit difficult to absorb as such a rapid pace. Otherwise, all good!
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I think the biggest plot twist is making the murderer as much unpredictable as possible.
There's an anime called Kindaichi case files and the writers of it have gone absolutely insane. (Almost) each and every case has an impossible crime, the criminal having an alibi and the criminal being the someone whom people literally forget while suspecting people even though all the clues pointing to the culprit were given.
I will have to check it out!
Oh, it's on Netflix, isn't it? Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out, too!
YA Thriller author here, the best plot Twists are these which were always there, so small seemingly hints of details fall all together in the end. Therefore everything seems to be planend and always there (Harlen Coben and Karen M McManus have perfectionated it)
you’re the best help i found while planning my mystery novel. i love your channel so much! it’s always so easy to understands and saves my motivation when i think i can’t fix my plot 😍❤️
I only write for fun as a hobby. Recently found your channel and vary much appreciated the way u present concepts. Thanks
I've been stuck on a loop for a month now and you have just unlocked the door to a key point I was having diffuclty with. Mad props, thanks a bunch.
Wow, that’s so awesome to hear!
You are an inspiration. I have found your videos priceless in starting my own cozy mystery 😉 thank you! Keep making these!!!
Thank you! Will do!
i love 2 things about this video: the content, and the content of the jar
First useful plot twist video I’ve seen
Thanks for the ideas, I needed to write something for an assignment at school
Glad it was helpful!
Yay! I've been (im)patiently waiting for another video.
Hope you enjoyed it! More to come!
@@janekalmes I did. I like to write stories *with* mystery but have never written an outright mystery and when I watch your videos, it seems so logical and easy.
I’ll start out by saying that I love your videos! I’m currently studying my way through your back catalog as I work on my first cozy, and it’s helping tremendously. Thank you!!
I have always had a fascination with other people’s bookshelves, and there are two books on your shelf that have caught my attention in many of your videos. One is titled “Deceit” something and has cranes(?) on the cover and the other is “Zoetropes”. It’s driving me crazy that I can’t read the fine print well enough to look up the books. Could you help me put this little OCD to rest? Thanks!
James, thank you so much!
The first book is Deceit and Other Possibilities by my friend and critique partner, Vanessa Hua. I definitely recommend it! It has a new cover now. You can find it, and her latest novel, A River of Stars, anywhere you find books.
The second is a collection of short stories from the Californian literary fiction magazine, Zoetrope. They are still publishing, but I wouldn't be surprised if this particular anthology has gone out of print; it's from way back in 2000.
Another great video. Thanks, Jane!
You're so welcome!
And again a wonderful and helpful video- thank you 🌷🌷
You are so welcome!
I love your videos, but I'm still struggling because my book is an urban fantasy murder mystery, so how do I add a twist in a story that involves magic?
Hi! I'm not Jane, but have you considered a translative approach to plotting? That is begin with the kind of murder mystery type you'd like to write and create using the kind of clues, tools, weapons, and relationships you'd see in a regular mystery - then simply determine which of those things can be made more interesting or dramatic with magic and which of those things would be better off without and then reverse engineer your scenes to do so. Especially helpful if you are still developing your magic systems/world building. The key is to effectively communicate whatever you translate into your worlds social understanding to your readers. Something to consider
Such good information, Thank you
You’re so welcome, Anna!
Binging a few of you vids this morning!
Woot, hope it was fun!
I just found you, and your channel is amazing!
Thank you, glad you’re liking it!
Another great video!
Thank you, Jill!
I am writing an attempted murder mystery and this is helpful. I also just realized I own two of your books in the background:
So good to hear!
I am telling.my own character sketch in my story, so people can aware of how I pass myself from different event in my story telling idea 💡 through this story, so many things wanted to create which was happened in my life,
It is a TRUE 👍 story I don't want to show. Y miserable life but wanted to show reality,my ambition my life just I am living right now, ✅️ I don't expect anything but also learning something, not only in written but tools that is running up with us. People learnt through the video but they are only listener, while I am listening from different expertise and try to bounce back in my own way.
#SUBHASH.
Thanks again for another informative video.
Quick question(fantasy/mystery).
Any tips on writing a mystery where the investigator(pov character) is the killer, but doesn't realise they where due to being controlled via a magic mastermind.
Cool idea! It seems like the big challenge here is making sure the reader's reaction, on learning the twist, isn’t “WHAT?!” but rather, “WHAT?!… Oh, of COURSE!” That is, after the initial surprise, you want them to start putting together the details that make everything add up.
My initial thought is simply that you want to make a list of the things your reader will need to understand in order to make your twist make sense. Things like:
Magical masterminds are a possibility
The protagonist is vulnerable to/likely to be targeted by a magical mastermind
The protagonist has missing time gaps
Evidence suggests the protagonist was at the scene of the crime
These are just examples, but whatever facts your reader will need to know, make a list, and create clues to each one. Here’s a video to help: th-cam.com/video/GNR0g60m0EI/w-d-xo.html
If you’re up for a big project, you might read Moriarty by Anthony Horowitz, which has a big shocker at the end,.. then go through it and make a list of all of the info the author communicated that helped the ending make sense.
@@janekalmes
Thank you very much for the detailed response, I hope you channel continues to grow from all the hard work you are putting in.
I will keep these tips in mind and will add the book you recommended to my list.
Currently reading a post apocalyptic graphic novel called animosity were the animals become sentient and begin exacting their revenge against humanity would highly recommend.
I like reading graphic novels as they help me with writing dialogues and making each voice distinct.
Thanks for the recommendation; I will look for that!
Hi Jane, love your knowledge and delivery. One request: maybe not talk so fast. I get you're trying to make your tips quick and painless, but frankly, I find them a bit difficult to absorb as such a rapid pace. Otherwise, all good!
I keep trying to work on that!