"it's better if you get married sooner" immediately calls hoshiyomi's annoying optimal response honestly she's very honest it seems and i appreciate that a lot about her
I can't really imagine Sui-chan being in romantic love tho. Her little sister energy is overwhelming aside that is her superstar aura. Aside from wanting to pamper her, support her, worship and adore her, i cant really see anything beyond that.
Well i can understand the feeling since english is not my born language, but after years of english i can say that i read that without issue, "skill issue" its like a joke but basically you will reach that level one day, jut keep training.
After other Holomens talking about Suisei off camera she is very much a "little sister", with means she is more a child-like personallity and probability does have 0 interest in romance. To be fair, since she does love being a singer its better have this kind of mindset.
@@hello-im well, she get married just after few months know each other. and consider her age, maybe she felt pressure or something, from her parent perhaps?😒
This makes sense, she's way driven to do the activities she's doing now and doesn't pay attention to things that aren't along that path, so it makes sense that she's not thinking about romance for herself. (Although not getting confessed to, even in school, is a bit wild 😐 surely someone found her overwhelming aura intriguing)
While she did say she wasn't explicitly confessed to she did mention people trying to slowly approach her and her opening the distance, so that might have been people trying to manoeuvre things into a relationship.
Most sci-fi writers have never been to another planet and fought aliens, but they can still convey it in fiction to a point that it hooks people. Sometimes you don't need to go through something to describe it or work with it. I think there are plenty of popular romance authors who never were in a relationship. It's true that reading a lot of love related media probably gives culturral osmosis which helps too. In the end romance stories are fantasies. They don't have to be realisitc, just like love songs are completely over the top.
I get what you're saying but as an aro ace writer, romance is particularly hard for me to tackle since I have absolutely no frame of reference to draw from. I guess it's like an RG color blind person trying to paint or a chef tryna make desert with no sugar taste buds. At least with sci fi or action, there are other emotions to draw from. Hopelessness the current socio-economic climate, fear of dying etc etc makes for good underpinnings. Romance feels completely foreign and I can't even empathize with most characters in other novels. Not saying sui chan is aro ace but I relate to her a lot lol. I also make songs, and writing about romance feels very cerebral and my process looks similar to hers.
@@KT-lt4fy To use your own comparison, while you may not understand sexual attraction, you still understand human bonds. You most likely care about family or friends. Love is just a variation of that emotion. You like massages? Do they feel good? Then just imagine sex as an extra intense massage. You have plenty of references to draw on if you want to emulate emotions that can be used in romance.
@@yoursonisold8743 idk. i've comforted too many ppl who've gone through breakups and ppl act like being rejected is the worst thing in the world. seems like a different thing??? Is romance really just elevated friendship? I think romance literally has a whole load of different neurochemical soup going on inside the head that looks like a cocaine high. My friends act sooo differently when romance is involved it looks like an addiction. I've never cried over friendships and family but some ppl suspect I have aspd tendencies so that could be it. regardless, thanks for the response, i've got new ideas on how to tackle this (tryna write a love song with a friend).
@@KT-lt4fy Yeah no, if you cant understand being devastated if your family rejected you or left you behind or if you wouldnt put their well-being above yours... then you might not even understand platonic love. There is a limit to how much you can compare experiences if you don't even experience the most basic ones. Sorry.
@@KT-lt4fy what do you read? romance is quite a bit more complicated and imo more two-sided than a lot of people actually encounter. a lot of people are just used to crushing instead, which is more like brain chemistry and hormones making you kinda crazy and is not easy to community or be particularly compelling to an outside party lol. I also wouldn't say it's like an elevated friendship. friendship is much more generalized and demands much less commitment. the crux of romance is two people who want understand and please each other in an exclusive and personal way.
I don't think about the relationship status or sexualities of Hololive members much, though it would be untrue to say I never thought about it (especially in response to seeing other people speculate). And with how career oriented Suisei is I long have had the idea that she might be aroace (both at once or either one). Especially in comparison to most other Hololive members, who bring up topics of romance more often then her (even if it is still rather rare for most of them). She seems even more career focused than most (though there certainly are others with similar levels of dedication). Not that it matters, nor do I really care about it much but the thought sometimes pops up when the conversation happens to go in that direction.
She might be aro, but I doubt she's ace. Her appreciation for "shounen" as well as her talking to Marine about 18+ books doesn't realy strike me as ace (but then again, I'm not ace myself).
@@deathzexion am an ace here and we do still talk, laugh or whatever at r18 but when thinking of self being in the sexual stuff is when the ace shows
@@hiiragihasmanywaifu I think in that talk she precisely mentionned stuff she bought for herself. I'm curious, as an ace person, would you or other ace people you know be interested in buying and consuming 18+ medias?
@@deathzexion the other aces i know do consume 18+ media, even me tho not solely for the 18+ but for the good storylines (like manga/manhwa/novels) but i would never watch an irl pron. Buying that media for self is fine but last sentence i meant in prev reply was having no interest in sex at all
She doesn't need to get married because she's already married to Miko and Fubuki, they both visit her house every week and go out together, it's a marriage in which they each live in their own separate house
From all of the Sui-tidbits and knowing some people with similar dispositions, Suisei definitely comes of pretty clearly as aromantic. There's no real ups or downs to it, just a part of who she is as a person - there isn't a need for a romantic relationship as part of her personal fulfillment.
Love-themed movies like Chungking Express or Eternal Sunshine Of the Spotless Mind are type of movies that can be understand by someone who have experienced in love. I'm 25, never had any experience in love, so I don't understand anything about those movies lol. Meanwhile people who watched them always told me that the movies are masterpieces, because they show exactly what love truly is. I think Suisei should learn from those movies instead of wishful-thinking scenarios like those in Shoujo Manga etc.
It is rare for someone like Suisei to not be married. Maybe she’ll get there once she is 40 as it is quite common with a Japanese/Korean celebrities. It is a fact that most woman who originally thought of not being married changes their mind eventually as their own instinct urges them to have kids. Man it feels weird for me to say this lol
or its just the usual case of late bloomer. its not rare if she grow up around ppl with horrible experience in romantic relationship and feel scared to even consider it
but from what i see most married Japanese celebrities married at around 30. never see one that do at 40. or i just dont know much celebrities that over 40 years old? consider most famous va like rie takahashi are 30 now and no news she married. is it really true most married at 40?😲
y'all taking her at her word are wild to me... i mean she clearly cant give an honest answer to that question, Holo fans and idol; fans are too parasocial to deal with the truth. she's playing a character and she has to stay on brand no? don't get me wrong, i don't hold it against her or anything, as far as i'm concerned she could be in a relationship for years or be asexual it doesn't make a diff to me. but c'mon now. we all know what the fans are like. no way any hololive vtuber is giving an honest answer to that question lol
Not be honest about their current relationship status, certainly (though Suisei is one of the members I have an easier time believing that they are truly single because of how career focused she is, not having time for distractions). But I don't see a reason to assume that it extends to talk of previous relationships as well (well, it would probably depend on the talent) (also Suisei keeps far away from GFE and fanservice, not doing voicepacks and once stating she would never ever date a fan even if they were a catch. Though I don't disagree that there is reason to still hide your relationship status even if you don't intend to imply that you are available for fans). Marine, Matsuri and some others have talked about having previous relationships iirc. And even looking from a perspective of telling fans that you have never had a relationship, I don't see what "I have never been confessed to" adds when simply "never been in a relationship" would suffice. Also, even disbelieving the bits about relationships (which as you point out, there very much is a valid reason to be dishonest about), why would someone not think she is being honest in the talk about not understanding romance and having a talk about trying to understand? After all, you can be a "pure idol" who has never been in a relationship and still have a very clear idea about what love is (admittedly, it is also possible that you have been in relationships without understanding love). Anyway, all that yapping aside I think there is an even bigger reason why most commenters are taking her at her word. Because for most people honesty is the default assumption rather than dishonesty absent any secondary factors (and here while the context of being an idol does increase the reason to assume dishonesty (which for some people is the stronger impulse even if the default for them might have been to assume honesty) there is also the fact that most people watching a Suisei clip are probably already Suisei/Hololive fans. And even if they are not full on fans of her likely to have a relatively positive disposition/opinion towards her. And people are much more likely to believe people they already like).
You making up a scenario about her lying, then giving her condolences and sympathising with her over your made up scenario is wild. If she wanted to lie she wouldn't have brought it up to begin with, nothing forces her. This pattern of villanising the fanbase to feed your ego isn't healthy. And rather disrespectful to her brand.
You act as if it's normal for the talents to deny ever dating or being in relationships. There are definitely plenty of members in or has been in relationships but they will simply not talk about it or even acknowledge the topic. There's no real reason for her to bring it up herself and talk about it if she just wants to lie when she has told her fans multiple to not fall in love with her and has no issues with collabing with male streamers/singers.
We take her word for it, if she lies then she lies what would you do about it? If it's just about dating she would blatanly say it to our face, she already said it in the past something along the lines of "If I want to I will if you don't like it you can stop supporting me". Also, we don't really care, most of us found out about sui-chan because of her songs we follow her for that, do you talk trash to real singers or artists for getting married? I don't think so. Maybe I am putting my picture of her so much here but it's just for clarification
![Miko Hijacks Another Suisei Song... (Sakura Miko & Hoshimachi Suisei / Hololive) [Eng Subs]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Fic1aPFYLs/mqdefault.jpg)
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![Suisei Forces Her Indie Friend To Play Plate Up At 2AM (Lupi & Suisei / Hololive) [Eng Subs]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sohpSbFm-B4/mqdefault.jpg)
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Something about suisei asking a 16 yr old for a full course about romance sounds hilarious to me
The Minecraft pig for chat tho 😭
It took me a second but then it clicked lol
We Hoshiyomis have no form so we have to do with this 😭😭😭
@@claytabulusshogunjust put iroha
Lololol
uhi uhi
"it's better if you get married sooner"
immediately calls hoshiyomi's annoying
optimal response honestly
she's very honest it seems and i appreciate that a lot about her
Love is hard for the blue-haired heroine
Never clicked so fast. Also, that buta pfp for chat.
y'all: waiting to marry suisei
me: planning to marry anemachi
we are not the same
aizen plan always 2 step ahead
“Has anyone ever confessed to you I before”
Yes. By me. Daily.
The question was about real people.
Chat we're not real.
@@yoursonisold8743 Hoshiyomi is not real?
@@deanthomas2305 People who confess to Vtubers are subhuman. Nothing to do with being Hoshiyomi.
I can't really imagine Sui-chan being in romantic love tho. Her little sister energy is overwhelming aside that is her superstar aura. Aside from wanting to pamper her, support her, worship and adore her, i cant really see anything beyond that.
0:42 Dude, _nobody_ is going to be able to read that this quick
skill issue
but I did though
Well i can understand the feeling since english is not my born language, but after years of english i can say that i read that without issue, "skill issue" its like a joke but basically you will reach that level one day, jut keep training.
@@DGSHoshiro : I've been reading and writing English for more than 20 years, it's still too fast.
@@shinyhappyrem8728 sounds like skill issue to me
Sui-Chan has immense self love. I respect
Can't believe Sui is dense when it comes to romance
She is not and maybe its just me; it feels like rushia back in 2020-2021 asking "what is love."
@@hello-im baby dont hurt me?
After other Holomens talking about Suisei off camera she is very much a "little sister", with means she is more a child-like personallity and probability does have 0 interest in romance. To be fair, since she does love being a singer its better have this kind of mindset.
@@hello-im tbh is that girl understand what is love tho?
@@hello-im well, she get married just after few months know each other. and consider her age, maybe she felt pressure or something, from her parent perhaps?😒
This makes sense, she's way driven to do the activities she's doing now and doesn't pay attention to things that aren't along that path, so it makes sense that she's not thinking about romance for herself.
(Although not getting confessed to, even in school, is a bit wild 😐 surely someone found her overwhelming aura intriguing)
While she did say she wasn't explicitly confessed to she did mention people trying to slowly approach her and her opening the distance, so that might have been people trying to manoeuvre things into a relationship.
Most sci-fi writers have never been to another planet and fought aliens, but they can still convey it in fiction to a point that it hooks people. Sometimes you don't need to go through something to describe it or work with it. I think there are plenty of popular romance authors who never were in a relationship. It's true that reading a lot of love related media probably gives culturral osmosis which helps too. In the end romance stories are fantasies. They don't have to be realisitc, just like love songs are completely over the top.
I get what you're saying but as an aro ace writer, romance is particularly hard for me to tackle since I have absolutely no frame of reference to draw from. I guess it's like an RG color blind person trying to paint or a chef tryna make desert with no sugar taste buds. At least with sci fi or action, there are other emotions to draw from. Hopelessness the current socio-economic climate, fear of dying etc etc makes for good underpinnings. Romance feels completely foreign and I can't even empathize with most characters in other novels.
Not saying sui chan is aro ace but I relate to her a lot lol. I also make songs, and writing about romance feels very cerebral and my process looks similar to hers.
@@KT-lt4fy To use your own comparison, while you may not understand sexual attraction, you still understand human bonds. You most likely care about family or friends. Love is just a variation of that emotion. You like massages? Do they feel good? Then just imagine sex as an extra intense massage.
You have plenty of references to draw on if you want to emulate emotions that can be used in romance.
@@yoursonisold8743 idk. i've comforted too many ppl who've gone through breakups and ppl act like being rejected is the worst thing in the world. seems like a different thing??? Is romance really just elevated friendship? I think romance literally has a whole load of different neurochemical soup going on inside the head that looks like a cocaine high. My friends act sooo differently when romance is involved it looks like an addiction. I've never cried over friendships and family but some ppl suspect I have aspd tendencies so that could be it. regardless, thanks for the response, i've got new ideas on how to tackle this (tryna write a love song with a friend).
@@KT-lt4fy Yeah no, if you cant understand being devastated if your family rejected you or left you behind or if you wouldnt put their well-being above yours... then you might not even understand platonic love. There is a limit to how much you can compare experiences if you don't even experience the most basic ones. Sorry.
@@KT-lt4fy what do you read? romance is quite a bit more complicated and imo more two-sided than a lot of people actually encounter. a lot of people are just used to crushing instead, which is more like brain chemistry and hormones making you kinda crazy and is not easy to community or be particularly compelling to an outside party lol.
I also wouldn't say it's like an elevated friendship. friendship is much more generalized and demands much less commitment. the crux of romance is two people who want understand and please each other in an exclusive and personal way.
If she wants to be showered with love novel's vocabulary she should just open my messages 😤
other : marry her
me : my cute little baby 🍼
Don't treat your idol like a baby, kusa 🥲
I don't think about the relationship status or sexualities of Hololive members much, though it would be untrue to say I never thought about it (especially in response to seeing other people speculate).
And with how career oriented Suisei is I long have had the idea that she might be aroace (both at once or either one). Especially in comparison to most other Hololive members, who bring up topics of romance more often then her (even if it is still rather rare for most of them). She seems even more career focused than most (though there certainly are others with similar levels of dedication). Not that it matters, nor do I really care about it much but the thought sometimes pops up when the conversation happens to go in that direction.
She might be aro, but I doubt she's ace. Her appreciation for "shounen" as well as her talking to Marine about 18+ books doesn't realy strike me as ace (but then again, I'm not ace myself).
@@deathzexion am an ace here and we do still talk, laugh or whatever at r18 but when thinking of self being in the sexual stuff is when the ace shows
@@hiiragihasmanywaifu I think in that talk she precisely mentionned stuff she bought for herself. I'm curious, as an ace person, would you or other ace people you know be interested in buying and consuming 18+ medias?
@@deathzexion the other aces i know do consume 18+ media, even me tho not solely for the 18+ but for the good storylines (like manga/manhwa/novels) but i would never watch an irl pron. Buying that media for self is fine but last sentence i meant in prev reply was having no interest in sex at all
@@hiiragihasmanywaifu Ok, thanks for answering my questions and satisfying my curiosity^^
Dense protagonist Hoshimachi at her finest
already married to AI Suisei,
She doesn't need to get married because she's already married to Miko and Fubuki, they both visit her house every week and go out together, it's a marriage in which they each live in their own separate house
From all of the Sui-tidbits and knowing some people with similar dispositions, Suisei definitely comes of pretty clearly as aromantic.
There's no real ups or downs to it, just a part of who she is as a person - there isn't a need for a romantic relationship as part of her personal fulfillment.
Love-themed movies like Chungking Express or Eternal Sunshine Of the Spotless Mind are type of movies that can be understand by someone who have experienced in love.
I'm 25, never had any experience in love, so I don't understand anything about those movies lol. Meanwhile people who watched them always told me that the movies are masterpieces, because they show exactly what love truly is.
I think Suisei should learn from those movies instead of wishful-thinking scenarios like those in Shoujo Manga etc.
Alright, I don't mind her not accepting marriage for now... It's her decision...
Anways, anyone know where can I apply to be her housekeeper?
It is rare for someone like Suisei to not be married. Maybe she’ll get there once she is 40 as it is quite common with a Japanese/Korean celebrities. It is a fact that most woman who originally thought of not being married changes their mind eventually as their own instinct urges them to have kids. Man it feels weird for me to say this lol
or its just the usual case of late bloomer. its not rare if she grow up around ppl with horrible experience in romantic relationship and feel scared to even consider it
but from what i see most married Japanese celebrities married at around 30. never see one that do at 40. or i just dont know much celebrities that over 40 years old? consider most famous va like rie takahashi are 30 now and no news she married. is it really true most married at 40?😲
I'm dumbstruck by the fact no one's confessed to her before.
Someone please, volunteer yourself.
1:53 Sui-chan...that is just BL and ero-hon isn't it....
Tuki? Is that that 15 yo singer that got really famous lately? She asked a 15 yo about love? LOL
I have my doubt about suichan.. however I will reserved the opinion only to myself.
y'all taking her at her word are wild to me... i mean she clearly cant give an honest answer to that question, Holo fans and idol; fans are too parasocial to deal with the truth. she's playing a character and she has to stay on brand no?
don't get me wrong, i don't hold it against her or anything, as far as i'm concerned she could be in a relationship for years or be asexual it doesn't make a diff to me.
but c'mon now. we all know what the fans are like. no way any hololive vtuber is giving an honest answer to that question lol
Not be honest about their current relationship status, certainly (though Suisei is one of the members I have an easier time believing that they are truly single because of how career focused she is, not having time for distractions). But I don't see a reason to assume that it extends to talk of previous relationships as well (well, it would probably depend on the talent) (also Suisei keeps far away from GFE and fanservice, not doing voicepacks and once stating she would never ever date a fan even if they were a catch. Though I don't disagree that there is reason to still hide your relationship status even if you don't intend to imply that you are available for fans).
Marine, Matsuri and some others have talked about having previous relationships iirc. And even looking from a perspective of telling fans that you have never had a relationship, I don't see what "I have never been confessed to" adds when simply "never been in a relationship" would suffice.
Also, even disbelieving the bits about relationships (which as you point out, there very much is a valid reason to be dishonest about), why would someone not think she is being honest in the talk about not understanding romance and having a talk about trying to understand? After all, you can be a "pure idol" who has never been in a relationship and still have a very clear idea about what love is (admittedly, it is also possible that you have been in relationships without understanding love).
Anyway, all that yapping aside I think there is an even bigger reason why most commenters are taking her at her word.
Because for most people honesty is the default assumption rather than dishonesty absent any secondary factors (and here while the context of being an idol does increase the reason to assume dishonesty (which for some people is the stronger impulse even if the default for them might have been to assume honesty) there is also the fact that most people watching a Suisei clip are probably already Suisei/Hololive fans. And even if they are not full on fans of her likely to have a relatively positive disposition/opinion towards her. And people are much more likely to believe people they already like).
You making up a scenario about her lying, then giving her condolences and sympathising with her over your made up scenario is wild.
If she wanted to lie she wouldn't have brought it up to begin with, nothing forces her.
This pattern of villanising the fanbase to feed your ego isn't healthy. And rather disrespectful to her brand.
You act as if it's normal for the talents to deny ever dating or being in relationships. There are definitely plenty of members in or has been in relationships but they will simply not talk about it or even acknowledge the topic.
There's no real reason for her to bring it up herself and talk about it if she just wants to lie when she has told her fans multiple to not fall in love with her and has no issues with collabing with male streamers/singers.
We take her word for it, if she lies then she lies what would you do about it? If it's just about dating she would blatanly say it to our face, she already said it in the past something along the lines of "If I want to I will if you don't like it you can stop supporting me". Also, we don't really care, most of us found out about sui-chan because of her songs we follow her for that, do you talk trash to real singers or artists for getting married? I don't think so. Maybe I am putting my picture of her so much here but it's just for clarification