One of the things people overlook is the other aspect of Kali's strength. She grew up in the gutter. She was given chance yet had ot work her arse off, living among people who would, without a hesitation, exploit others just for sake of survival. She UNDERSTANDS they do that in order to persevere. She was stabbed in the back herself. She knows the City's ugliest, dirtiest face. She tasted the poverty and struggle, and despair. And yet, she STILL grew to be a person who cares more about protecting the weak, rather than feeding on them. She is the Strongest fixer that City could've spawned.
And this is why it's entirely possible in game to solo Black Silence reception with Gebura's exclusive pages. She's just that absurdly powerful even in her 'nerfed' state.
It can also be said that during the Lobcorp raid, The Red Mist had to deal with nearly all the abnormalities, along with killing two or so claws before going quite even with Garion. It wouldn’t be much of an exaggeration to say that if she wasn’t exhausted suppressing claws and abnormalities alike she would practically wipe Garion off the face of the city.
I’m sorry but Garion would still win, she is an *Arbiter*. Arbiters are singularity infused assassins and could wipe out thousands of Kali level fixers without a fuss. Garion only lost because she was fooling around too much.
Agreed. Based on the position on the corpses as well, she might even have been ganked by Garion and both claws. But even if she wasnt, she ran a fucking gauntlet before fighting Garion. And based on Nothing There’s abnormality code, showing that it is the 20th abnormality, it means she fought AT LEAST 20, with AT LEAST 1 ALEPH. Combine this with having to fight two claws and THEN turning around to face an arbiter. And yet she was still able to KILL said Arbiter?? Yeah no, in a wasteland with no claws or abnos, Kali wouldve folded Garion like laundry
6:33 the other reason is that Geburah had the element of surprise with EGO which Binah wasn't aware of, once Angela's rebellion began Binah in her rematch was able to defeat Geburah even mentioning "I am now aware of the capabilities of EGO"
Robot Gebura was far weaker than Kali. Garion literally surprise attacked whole facility and made Kali fight with all the abnormalities and claws before even facing her. If anything Kali was on extreme unlucky side, its just binah coping she is weaker than red mist
It killed Squidward in that one creepypasta and that guy is apparently multi solar system level according to the power scaling wiki so prolly pretty strong I think
@@randomisfoda 😱 *_SQUIDWARD, WATCH OUT-_* [Goodbye procs] [Hello also procs somehow] [22 Strength and Max Power Roll against non-block die] [236 Fatal damage] [Gebura is Max HP and SR] 😭
I'd like to mention 2 additional factors: Kali's durability goes far beyond what she had to fight with Garion, since she fought before that fight what is all the abnormalities that where there during early Lcorp, now with how varied and bast the abilities of abnormalities are, this is no small feat at all given how many of those could be multicity block or higher... and not only that but she faced against 2 Claws before Garion and killed them both. Now Claws from what we saw have abilities such as reality warping and striking from portals and such thanks to the W serum, they can accelerate themselfs to insane speeds thanks to R serum, and they can regenerate themselfs insanely fast with K serum(given how in the checkpoint of Kcorp that we saw of Canto 3, the Kcorp guards where regenerating whole limbs and stuff in seconds, with the only surefy way to deal with them being significant brain damage, Kali being able to kill far faaar more durable beings with such capability too is impressivbe) And the second factor is that the weapon she uses, Mimicry, allows her to manipulate the shape of the weapon itself to better adapt to the situation. If you look at her Sprites in Ruina, she is capable of tranforming the sword into a Spear to get better range, she could change its shape into a Scythe to get better slashes, she can change its shape to make it be more blunt and heavy for it to deal a more devastating blow, and she can change the size so that Mimicry will for sure be as devastating as it needs to be for its opponent... Now in Ruina it didnt showcase it, or probably Angela didnt allow Kali to show case this abilities so that we could have a fighting chance, but Mimicry the ego weapon in Lcorp was capable of giving its user Self healing and sustain for each successful hit on their target, alongside from what Roland showed using that same ego, it can deal devastating grave wounds and throw its opponents off its balance with ease... So theoretically her sustain may be even better than what is we know with her probably like being capable of recovering fast mid battle and out pacing even tough opponents by gaining more and more strength the more time she is battling...
@aguywithgames3135 that is unironically the weapon mimicry is based on... Which isnt surprising as pm takes influence from other franchises such as Bloodborne and lil red/wedge office, the magical girls and well, magical girl animes, whitenight and Evangelion...
Kali didn't kill Garion with a "surprise attack". Garion was completely locked on and never looked away from RM, she just underestimated how strong Kali really is, even at her lowest.
I look at the actual scene in lobcorp. By ranting, Garion essentially just gave Kali a minute to collect herself. Her last line was "If you can still manage to hold a weapon and stand up with your own two feet, then come. Come at me." She was neither looking away, nor caught monologuing, nor surprise/sneak attacked, as Binah glazers love to say. She simply underestimated how much strength Kali had left.
@@Narv649 Getting jumpscared by E.G.O. is still being taken off guard, it’s still a result of being severely uninformed and having no idea something like that even existed. Without it, Kali was fucked.
The Red Mist is officially considered as The Strongest fixer or living being in the City, at least during the time she was the only one using E.G.O, but she seems to have characteristics that make her superior to most, she was also trained by a former Color Fixer too, the Purple Tear herself. During the raid in the outskirts lab, Kali had to fight 2 claws, breaching abnormalities with no deterrence, and the Arbiter herself while protecting escaping victims at the same time, which ended up on a Tie because Kali was heavily wounded, lost her arm, and Garion wasn't aware of the E.G.O's capabilities, the only reason Kali died was because of the opportunistic nature of the Arbiter, had she not fought distractions or were held back by protecting others, she would've mopped the floor with the intruders. In the Library, the reason we kill Kali was because she was before her prime, she wasn't as strong because she didn't have a proper handle of her E.G.O, but still was overwhemingly strong, the Library was big enough to overpower a color like her, anything that entered the Library on its full power had no chance of winning. When Zena attacks the Library, Gebura with the power of Kali wasn't as strong, Gebura is a completely different entity and didn't have the same strengths despite wielding that power, but even then, a single Arbiter and a Claw struggled to kill the main trio, they failed in the direct confrontation, they just seize opportunities against enemies on their most vulnerable moments, so it's possible that The Red Mist was the strongest entity living in the city, probably even stronger than Arbiters and Claws altogether, had she not been held back. Now things may change as new E.G.O users are starting to appear, maybe we'll see someone just as strong as her in a future.
By the time Kali reached Garion, she'd fought a load of abnormalities, killed two claws and even lost an arm, if Kali fought Garion at her full strength...it's be more one-sided.
@ That and Kali wasn't at full strength when she got to Garion and in THAT case, they killed each other. This is considering that under normal circumstances, it's rare to even encounter an Arbiter and LIVE to speak of it, as for fighting one...that's not just unwise, it's suicidal.
i dont think itd be one sided, i think kali with ego + not exhausted (from the abnos and the claws) vs garion could probably be a 50/50 or garion would have an advantage. this is An Arbiter were talking about
@@randomisfoda In the lab, I think due to closeness, E.G.O Kali blitzs. I think any decent range and Garion no difs her. I wonder if being in the Library nerfed the Head's forces at end of Ruina, or if Roland is actually just him.
She is certaintly the strongest modern fixer to have ever existed, when she was alive, fixer powerscaling shennanigans were a non issue in universe, everyone flat out agreed she was the strongest (and it wasnt because it was an age of weaklings, Iori was active too during that time) BUT is she really the strongest fixer to have ever existed? Bari, the knight of the white moon, seems to be flat out bullshit, she is from before fixers became an actual thing, and seems to be inmortal. She is the one to kill Angela in her bad ending. She is the one equal to the manchan first gen, strongest of all bloodfiends during the age in which bloodfiends still walked in the open, capable of turning wars around by intervening, who could squash his entire family by himself despite being heavily nerfed and said family being extremely powerful (If half a normal family in size)
Plus, Bari is at least 400 years old, so in terms of actual experience, she has by far the most to ever live currently. *Post-Canto 7 Spoilers for Limbus Company* Vergilius with E.G.O. struggling to put down Sancho with the battle IQ and intelligence of a rabid fucking dog tells me all I need to know about Bari being equal to Don Quixote, *_four centuries ago._* Assuming that she didn’t get any stronger at all since then is very disingenuous; she’s likely Kali level or even higher.
@@shrimpman.¡¡Spoilers for canto 7.5!! Vergilius easily took down Sancho with E.G.O but she was weakened due to starving and the golden bough. Dante notes that Vergilius looks exhausted after the fight which could mean that Vergilius had trouble but again it is most likely Vergilius quickly defeated Sancho and avoided using his true strength because he needed to defeat Sancho without much damage to the building. Also Dante only saw Vergilius fight twice before.
Now with Gebura in the Library she has access to Library EGO pages. Enhancing her powers EVEN MORE and she can use the red mist page + Augment those strengths Her floor has mountain of smiling bodies and nothing there EGO pages. Goodbye lets her just double the diceroll and Decimate
I just like abilities, someone using ultra hard techniques, also red mist: Slash, slash but blunt, pierce, bigger slash horisontal, bigger slash vertical
@@BeeSoulja how many space marines from ultramar would i need to drop on her to beat her? I dont want to get my hands dirty... Id rather hire some fools from a diffrent universe you see. And the only price here is telling them that shes a spawn of khorne or idk slanesh...
What? Kali was killed by Garion, Garion was only incapacitated due to her being impaled against a wall with the mimicry ego, where she remained alive but was tortured by Ayin for information about the head until she died and became binah. Not to mention Geburas damage type resistances are based on what aleph ego weapons shes currently weilding. Her first phase is best to analyse her resistances where she weilds only zayin/teth weapons they are R0.9 W0.9 B0.9 P1.0 which means shes naturally stronger to red and white by 0.1, stronger to black by 0.6 and stronger to pale by 1.0. When she runs out of stamina in her 4th phase shes vulnerable to all types of damage. The fact that Binah was able to release so many abnormalities implies her RWBP resistances were all 0.1 while gebura was fighting her. I would argue the Red Mist's "peak" was her lobcorp suppression in terms of stats and her mastered ability to weild multiple Aleph ego weapons at the same time (especially considerinbher ability to weild twilight). Scaling the difficulty of the Claw in lobcorp (overwealmingly easy) I'd say lobcorp Red Mist could easily solo the final reception considering Zena couldnt release any abnormalities like binah could
Im gonna try correct a bit of this Im not gonna try and argue wether Kali or Core Gebura is stronger but you gotta remember BINAH ISNT GARION She is dealing with 3 claws, an arbiter and countless abnormalities while trying to protect as many people as she can (in which she fails so she focuses on killing Garion) and when facing Garion she is exhausted, missing an eye and a limb and managed to “kill” her Garion had a small part of her brain alive and thats when they tortured her Also Garion wouldnt have the 0.1 resistances from the CoreS Claws are a bit inconsistent with their difficulty as in LCorp they are easy as long as you stagger them but they still can kill people but in LoR, Baral isnt even close to getting staggered unless your doing one of those “kill Baral” challenges
Also for a bit of lore as to why people say Gebura isnt close to Kali Myo has directly said when sending the rabbits against CoreS Gebura that she isnt as strong as she used to be Which might be underestimating her but considering how well they know each other might be accurate
@@figurativelysomebody Rabbit Team 50% Dead during Gebura CS: "Got half of the Rabbits eliminated. Still have some skills left in you, huh?" Rabbit Team 80% Dead during Gebura CS: "80% dead by her hand. She puts up a tough fight, what a monster. Though she’s still not nearly as good as she used to be." Rabbit Team Completion during Gebura CS: "Thanks to that strange body of yours, Red Mist, your strength is much greater than before. Though your expertise seems to have rusted." CS Gebura and Binah are on completely different levels to everyone else, when *Kali* was pushed to the edge to manifest EGO **solely** from Mimicry's voice, then CS Gebura wielding **SIX** ALEPH weapons on her, even if she's just brute forcing instead of relying on "technique", is absolutely nothing to scoff at
In my humble opinion, the Red Mist peaked when she was a L corp sephirah. This is mostly because she had access to more powerful weapons (Mimicry's dps sucks), and she had better utilities. Heaven gave her range and Road to Gold gave her teleportation. She also wielded Twilight, which dealt 60 damage per swing on average, while Mimicry only dealt 12. If her physical strength wasn't diminished by becoming a sephirah, this version of her would definitely be the strongest.
She is probably stronger than that since she fought 2 claws and all the abnos at the site at the time. And these weren't the abnos we fight in lob corp, they didn't have the quiphoh deterrent, so they were on average around.... I think PM said that the deterrent nerfs abno's abilities by up to 60%? So imagine fighting Nothing There, but at twice the strength before taking on Garion. Granted her fight in library of Ruina, Binah can solo the red mist if played correctly but then so can Roland, so idk if that fight is a good baseline or not.
I think I remember it being said that the city doesn't keep very good historical records. If this is the case could fixers form the far past like the knight of the white moon potentially be stronger than the Red mist?
Kali does not represent gebura in prime... She represent gebura befor charackter dewelopment therefor she is weeker and less violent... Somehow... but ut was time she can legaly call herself red mist so ye kali is the onley option to say how strong red mist is
I have a problem with the speed scaling, which is the fact that it takes the animation and assumes that the animation is near instant because it happens in a single frame. That "0.0002" seconds it takes is obviously a bullshit number pulled out of their ass, and only exists because of the animation happening in a single frame which is purely a game mechanic. Even worse, if they wanted to scale off game mechanics, they should just have used Nemo's energy beam, because that is LITERALLY a beam of light.
Yeah, it felt like too much to me too, but considering there are bullshit abnormalities like 'Don't Touch Me' and 'Bald Abnormality", as well as overpowered things like the Concept Incinerator, everything seems possible. We'll most likely understand the full power of all PM characters by the end of Limbus Company or during the June 985 Incident. For now, there's nothing completely certain.
@@MilkshakeMan06 The abnormalities aren't really an issue. Both of those abnormalities you mentioned are "safe" anomalies that need to be interacted with before they take effect, and thus can't be used for scaling because the Red Mist didn't need to fight them (they can't even get out of the damn box in the first place.) The ones you mentioned are also one-time abnormalities or jokes that are slapped in there as a reference to the ridiculous gimmicks of the anomalous objects in the SCP Foundation and Lobotomy Corp being a game that pays homage to that series. The problem I have with the speed scaling calc is that in terms of game mechanics, it's not even the best in its class and shouldn't be brought up in the first place when deflecting a concentrated laser on reaction is straight up better and gets you numbers that are thousands of times larger since the speed of light in a vacuum is mach 874,030. Realistically in terms of lore feats, the Vespa feat puts Red Mist at a baseline of Mach 25-40 since each district covers around 30-50 kilometers and assuming Vespa can leap that distance in a single second, while heavily injured and carrying another person, and Red Mist being the only character with an infinite speed die making her faster than any other character, it's safe to say that she easily reaches that speed and is most likely a lot faster. But yeah. Lowballed she is mach 25 (which is impressive already considering that's the speed of escape velocity on Earth, meaning she's literally fast enough to leap into orbit with barely any effort!) and highballed using game mechanics she reaches relativistic speeds. And if you really want to bullshit it with the game mechanics you can say that her mass attack/E.G.O form is FTL or even infinite because it straight up goes before beam attacks (due to being AoE) and rolls high enough to shut down something like Baral's Serum W which literally teleports you across the whole library, with the library itself being an infinite space on the inside, stated by Yesod's dialogue, pre-realization.
I know this is a joke, but there is an Abnormality called 'Don't Touch Me' that crashes your game, which means that the Abno is boundless in terms of power scaling
@Onyxx0425 I know I'm just making fun of people who try and power scale light novel characters who get neg diffed by even the worst written characters in the writing department
@Onyxx0425 neither just try and power scale with someone who reads light novels they'll bring up the most unknown fodder you've ever heard out but apparently there some multiversal god 😂 but they have the writing of a cutting board
If she has access to every singularity and is supercharged by the Lights (“Angela, turn on the Light making machine”) then maybe she can beat his base form
@@dungeonmaster0656 to be fair, if she can match his base form and had support via the other floors, she'd beat Goku, period, because stuff like powernull on Binah's floor means Goku can't power up beyond his base form anyway since power gain or loss is banned on the conceptual level. Problem is that Goku's base form could like, blow up a planet. So Red Mist isn't going to beat that unless all the crackhead wank PM theories are true which they most likely aren't.
@@EverettLobotomy Yeah I honestly don’t see Kali even touching end of OG DB Goku let alone Z Goku, Man is stronger than people that can blow up the moon and by the time he reach Saipan Saga he already beats Vegeta who in the anime can blow up planet with a finger blast.
Damn this wiki only describes warrior of light from ffxiv in shadowbringers. By dawntrail they can easily be stronger than most project moon characters
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The biggest problem with this vid is that bullets and firearms in the PM verse are very weak and only really good for supprise attacks By law they cant pierce buildings or steel This lore is brought to you by korens that dont understand firearms lmao God i love PM
The key word is "piercing". They have elaborated more on this regulations recently and pulverizing the wall and everything behind it into dust and rubble is totally ok. So no, Project Moon guns are in no way weaker than IRL guns, it's just that augmentation and other equipment of the same price range is just better, since the Head wants to have guns an awful cost/effectiveness ratio. Read/Watch the Uptie stories of Fullstop Office IDs for Heathcliff and Hong Lu for more information.
@tonaris2285 I've been playing since day one and have everything in limbus dude The bullets you were talking about were special ones specifically for "pulverizeing" The regulations also specifically stated that the longer the gun the lower the caliber So hong lus pistol at point blank range harmlessly deflecting off of the steel plate armor from the meat gear units while his workshop dagger sliced through it "like butter" would very much indicate how much weaker PM verse guns are to real guns in lore Which just brings back the "PM don't understand firearms" bit from before
@@mageofvoid4282 The existence of singularity infused bullets exists. Cant pierce walls? Use teleportation. Too slow? Use time track to alter time around the bullet. There is no way a singularity infused bullet is weaker than real guns, only issue is of course price. The entire concept of the city is that you can break physics aslong as you have the money.
@@Alsry1 I am not talking about the highest end, top grade equipment I'm talking about the standard fare stuff that anyone can get ahold of I didn't think I needed to specify that but fine
You're not doing game mechanic scaling right. Don't Touch Me is boundless because it crashes the game. The average abnormality is a HE/WAW, which is about 1.2x more powerful than a Zayin, and because hax = stats average abnormality is 1.2x boundless. Abnormalities are extracted from humans and because creation = hax = stats average project moon human is 1.2x boundless. Zena and Baral both have 800 health (rats have 10 hp, so that dividing 800 then multiplied by 1.2 is 96x outerversal each) which adds up to 288x boundless for the two claws and one arbiter Kali fought, so 288x boundless red mist. If a character fails to break something/is hurt by something, it's because whatever it is was also outerversal by x amount. The keter floor's floor, for example, is about 400x boundless given the final battle. Anyways RabbitA from Black Souls still solos.
Gojo’s greatest assets are an invulnerable shield and an attack that has durability negation Binah is not Gojo on steroids Not even from a narrative point of view
fairy can just cut open that barrier. no amount of defense stops fairy from opening things. also yeah she doesn't have a bubble of no u around her. doesn'T mean she doesn't have a lot more things that do still make it work. like I don't know. just being able to chain someone in place. Pillars that can do pale damage
One of the things people overlook is the other aspect of Kali's strength.
She grew up in the gutter. She was given chance yet had ot work her arse off, living among people who would, without a hesitation, exploit others just for sake of survival. She UNDERSTANDS they do that in order to persevere. She was stabbed in the back herself.
She knows the City's ugliest, dirtiest face. She tasted the poverty and struggle, and despair.
And yet, she STILL grew to be a person who cares more about protecting the weak, rather than feeding on them.
She is the Strongest fixer that City could've spawned.
Roland agrees. Canonically in LoR.
If the wifeless Fixer agrees that you’re the strongest Fixer then you’re the strongest Fixer.
And this is why it's entirely possible in game to solo Black Silence reception with Gebura's exclusive pages. She's just that absurdly powerful even in her 'nerfed' state.
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It can also be said that during the Lobcorp raid, The Red Mist had to deal with nearly all the abnormalities, along with killing two or so claws before going quite even with Garion. It wouldn’t be much of an exaggeration to say that if she wasn’t exhausted suppressing claws and abnormalities alike she would practically wipe Garion off the face of the city.
It would be an exaggeration, especially since garrion only lost because she was talking too much
Kali against garion wasn't even at all, garion was basically playing with her before getting caught by surprise by EGO
I’m sorry but Garion would still win, she is an *Arbiter*.
Arbiters are singularity infused assassins and could wipe out thousands of Kali level fixers without a fuss. Garion only lost because she was fooling around too much.
Agreed. Based on the position on the corpses as well, she might even have been ganked by Garion and both claws. But even if she wasnt, she ran a fucking gauntlet before fighting Garion. And based on Nothing There’s abnormality code, showing that it is the 20th abnormality, it means she fought AT LEAST 20, with AT LEAST 1 ALEPH. Combine this with having to fight two claws and THEN turning around to face an arbiter. And yet she was still able to KILL said Arbiter?? Yeah no, in a wasteland with no claws or abnos, Kali wouldve folded Garion like laundry
@@cheezitman1307 nothing there's code has nothing to do with the amount of abnormalities that kali supressed
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IS THAT THE LEGENDARY JAY_A_COMENTER IT'S AN HONOR HAVING YOU HERE
Yes rico it is...
This is this and that is that
Brace Up
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@@TheRuina ARGALIA!!
6:33 the other reason is that Geburah had the element of surprise with EGO which Binah wasn't aware of, once Angela's rebellion began Binah in her rematch was able to defeat Geburah even mentioning "I am now aware of the capabilities of EGO"
Lucky 1% crit rate saved her
Making it a draw
Robot Gebura was far weaker than Kali. Garion literally surprise attacked whole facility and made Kali fight with all the abnormalities and claws before even facing her. If anything Kali was on extreme unlucky side, its just binah coping she is weaker than red mist
Garion if she did not act sloppy as well it would be arguably one-sided.
@judehanma i mean kali landed only 1 hit on binah during whole fight
Stab to heart
idk she's probably as strong as a color fixer
she is THE color fixer
I dunno man maybe she is strong as a color fixer just sayin
She has the potential to be a colour, at MINIMUM high grade 1
just saying
yeah she should become a colored fixer👍 I feel like her name would be something like the red mist with how she attacks
WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK- Garion as she dumps 2 claws and the facility's abnos on Kali
That girl Kali can fight for 4 days straight huh
I better keep my ass in this control room or im FINISHED ‼️‼️
>he forgot to mention Argalia's Grand Finale
it's over
It killed Squidward in that one creepypasta and that guy is apparently multi solar system level according to the power scaling wiki so prolly pretty strong I think
uhh wrong red mist
@Scrachkan I like to imagine it isn't because that's funnier
squidward after getting great split verticaled:
@@randomisfoda
😱 *_SQUIDWARD, WATCH OUT-_* [Goodbye procs] [Hello also procs somehow] [22 Strength and Max Power Roll against non-block die] [236 Fatal damage] [Gebura is Max HP and SR]
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I'd like to mention 2 additional factors:
Kali's durability goes far beyond what she had to fight with Garion, since she fought before that fight what is all the abnormalities that where there during early Lcorp, now with how varied and bast the abilities of abnormalities are, this is no small feat at all given how many of those could be multicity block or higher... and not only that but she faced against 2 Claws before Garion and killed them both. Now Claws from what we saw have abilities such as reality warping and striking from portals and such thanks to the W serum, they can accelerate themselfs to insane speeds thanks to R serum, and they can regenerate themselfs insanely fast with K serum(given how in the checkpoint of Kcorp that we saw of Canto 3, the Kcorp guards where regenerating whole limbs and stuff in seconds, with the only surefy way to deal with them being significant brain damage, Kali being able to kill far faaar more durable beings with such capability too is impressivbe)
And the second factor is that the weapon she uses, Mimicry, allows her to manipulate the shape of the weapon itself to better adapt to the situation. If you look at her Sprites in Ruina, she is capable of tranforming the sword into a Spear to get better range, she could change its shape into a Scythe to get better slashes, she can change its shape to make it be more blunt and heavy for it to deal a more devastating blow, and she can change the size so that Mimicry will for sure be as devastating as it needs to be for its opponent... Now in Ruina it didnt showcase it, or probably Angela didnt allow Kali to show case this abilities so that we could have a fighting chance, but Mimicry the ego weapon in Lcorp was capable of giving its user Self healing and sustain for each successful hit on their target, alongside from what Roland showed using that same ego, it can deal devastating grave wounds and throw its opponents off its balance with ease... So theoretically her sustain may be even better than what is we know with her probably like being capable of recovering fast mid battle and out pacing even tough opponents by gaining more and more strength the more time she is battling...
So she just straight up wields Devil Sword Sparda huh?
Definitely deserves the title of "The Strongest."
@aguywithgames3135 that is unironically the weapon mimicry is based on... Which isnt surprising as pm takes influence from other franchises such as Bloodborne and lil red/wedge office, the magical girls and well, magical girl animes, whitenight and Evangelion...
@@eryx0329 I mean I knew the references were there, but until you pointed that out, I would've pegged Mimicry referencing Soul Edge from Soul Calibur.
And Chesed still has enough balls to annoy her on a daily Basis
What she gonna do? Kill him?
Time revert solves that
Hell nah, powerscalers found PM
Ah whatever
Kali didn't kill Garion with a "surprise attack". Garion was completely locked on and never looked away from RM, she just underestimated how strong Kali really is, even at her lowest.
welp, it's confirmed, project moon fans cannot read.
@betergrif9504 source?
how you gonna look at something that was straight up stated and implied across two whole ass games and say “nuh uh”
I look at the actual scene in lobcorp. By ranting, Garion essentially just gave Kali a minute to collect herself. Her last line was "If you can still manage to hold a weapon and stand up with your own two feet, then come. Come at me." She was neither looking away, nor caught monologuing, nor surprise/sneak attacked, as Binah glazers love to say. She simply underestimated how much strength Kali had left.
@@Narv649 Getting jumpscared by E.G.O. is still being taken off guard, it’s still a result of being severely uninformed and having no idea something like that even existed. Without it, Kali was fucked.
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The Red Mist is officially considered as The Strongest fixer or living being in the City, at least during the time she was the only one using E.G.O, but she seems to have characteristics that make her superior to most, she was also trained by a former Color Fixer too, the Purple Tear herself.
During the raid in the outskirts lab, Kali had to fight 2 claws, breaching abnormalities with no deterrence, and the Arbiter herself while protecting escaping victims at the same time, which ended up on a Tie because Kali was heavily wounded, lost her arm, and Garion wasn't aware of the E.G.O's capabilities, the only reason Kali died was because of the opportunistic nature of the Arbiter, had she not fought distractions or were held back by protecting others, she would've mopped the floor with the intruders.
In the Library, the reason we kill Kali was because she was before her prime, she wasn't as strong because she didn't have a proper handle of her E.G.O, but still was overwhemingly strong, the Library was big enough to overpower a color like her, anything that entered the Library on its full power had no chance of winning.
When Zena attacks the Library, Gebura with the power of Kali wasn't as strong, Gebura is a completely different entity and didn't have the same strengths despite wielding that power, but even then, a single Arbiter and a Claw struggled to kill the main trio, they failed in the direct confrontation, they just seize opportunities against enemies on their most vulnerable moments, so it's possible that The Red Mist was the strongest entity living in the city, probably even stronger than Arbiters and Claws altogether, had she not been held back. Now things may change as new E.G.O users are starting to appear, maybe we'll see someone just as strong as her in a future.
By the time Kali reached Garion, she'd fought a load of abnormalities, killed two claws and even lost an arm, if Kali fought Garion at her full strength...it's be more one-sided.
Garion did underestimate ego
@@PsycotikAlwaysWatches The debate is how much exhaustion vs being surprised or underestimating effected the fight.
@ That and Kali wasn't at full strength when she got to Garion and in THAT case, they killed each other. This is considering that under normal circumstances, it's rare to even encounter an Arbiter and LIVE to speak of it, as for fighting one...that's not just unwise, it's suicidal.
i dont think itd be one sided, i think kali with ego + not exhausted (from the abnos and the claws) vs garion could probably be a 50/50 or garion would have an advantage. this is An Arbiter were talking about
@@randomisfoda In the lab, I think due to closeness, E.G.O Kali blitzs. I think any decent range and Garion no difs her.
I wonder if being in the Library nerfed the Head's forces at end of Ruina, or if Roland is actually just him.
She is certaintly the strongest modern fixer to have ever existed, when she was alive, fixer powerscaling shennanigans were a non issue in universe, everyone flat out agreed she was the strongest (and it wasnt because it was an age of weaklings, Iori was active too during that time)
BUT is she really the strongest fixer to have ever existed? Bari, the knight of the white moon, seems to be flat out bullshit, she is from before fixers became an actual thing, and seems to be inmortal. She is the one to kill Angela in her bad ending. She is the one equal to the manchan first gen, strongest of all bloodfiends during the age in which bloodfiends still walked in the open, capable of turning wars around by intervening, who could squash his entire family by himself despite being heavily nerfed and said family being extremely powerful (If half a normal family in size)
when was it stated she killed angel in the bad ending
@@johnsmitb6779 She is literally the book hunter that pulls up in angelas bad ending. Same face, same hair color, same equipment.
@@juaquinfuentesjara7352 except without the gravity bow
Plus, Bari is at least 400 years old, so in terms of actual experience, she has by far the most to ever live currently.
*Post-Canto 7 Spoilers for Limbus Company*
Vergilius with E.G.O. struggling to put down Sancho with the battle IQ and intelligence of a rabid fucking dog tells me all I need to know about Bari being equal to Don Quixote, *_four centuries ago._* Assuming that she didn’t get any stronger at all since then is very disingenuous; she’s likely Kali level or even higher.
@@shrimpman.¡¡Spoilers for canto 7.5!!
Vergilius easily took down Sancho with E.G.O but she was weakened due to starving and the golden bough. Dante notes that Vergilius looks exhausted after the fight which could mean that Vergilius had trouble but again it is most likely Vergilius quickly defeated Sancho and avoided using his true strength because he needed to defeat Sancho without much damage to the building. Also Dante only saw Vergilius fight twice before.
Now with Gebura in the Library she has access to Library EGO pages.
Enhancing her powers EVEN MORE and she can use the red mist page + Augment those strengths
Her floor has mountain of smiling bodies and nothing there EGO pages.
Goodbye lets her just double the diceroll and Decimate
Yeah but she says that her body is weaker in library of runia than when she was kali or when she was in lcorp
Hell yes I love these kind of videos we need more of them for Project Moon, great job man!
She's red mistversal
The Red Gaze be living up to name though, what a chad
2:58 I don't know why but am hearing today's mission and today's mission is telling to me kill
bait used to be believe- HOLY SHIY IS THAT THE RED MIST?
The strongest, next question.
grahh narrative power scaling is canonical because of the Light
Bait used to be belie- HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE RED MIST!?!?
I just like abilities, someone using ultra hard techniques, also red mist:
Slash, slash but blunt, pierce, bigger slash horisontal, bigger slash vertical
So many binah glazers………. 🤫
8:20 "Do that funny little dance before i turn you into a red mist"
Homelander:
Homelander vs redmist who wins for real
Homelander can get damaged by weaker individuals and in some cases even bullets. He is way slower, weaker physically and has less powers
@@BeeSoulja ok 👍
@@BeeSoulja how many space marines from ultramar would i need to drop on her to beat her? I dont want to get my hands dirty... Id rather hire some fools from a diffrent universe you see.
And the only price here is telling them that shes a spawn of khorne or idk slanesh...
3:10 is that a FreakBait reference?!?
Ah so freakbait is an index messenger
@facemug True
@facemugdang i never realized
He is basically index messenger lol
Maybe he the one that create prescript itself
What? Kali was killed by Garion, Garion was only incapacitated due to her being impaled against a wall with the mimicry ego, where she remained alive but was tortured by Ayin for information about the head until she died and became binah. Not to mention Geburas damage type resistances are based on what aleph ego weapons shes currently weilding. Her first phase is best to analyse her resistances where she weilds only zayin/teth weapons they are R0.9 W0.9 B0.9 P1.0 which means shes naturally stronger to red and white by 0.1, stronger to black by 0.6 and stronger to pale by 1.0. When she runs out of stamina in her 4th phase shes vulnerable to all types of damage. The fact that Binah was able to release so many abnormalities implies her RWBP resistances were all 0.1 while gebura was fighting her. I would argue the Red Mist's "peak" was her lobcorp suppression in terms of stats and her mastered ability to weild multiple Aleph ego weapons at the same time (especially considerinbher ability to weild twilight). Scaling the difficulty of the Claw in lobcorp (overwealmingly easy) I'd say lobcorp Red Mist could easily solo the final reception considering Zena couldnt release any abnormalities like binah could
Im gonna try correct a bit of this
Im not gonna try and argue wether Kali or Core Gebura is stronger but you gotta remember
BINAH ISNT GARION
She is dealing with 3 claws, an arbiter and countless abnormalities while trying to protect as many people as she can (in which she fails so she focuses on killing Garion) and when facing Garion she is exhausted, missing an eye and a limb and managed to “kill” her
Garion had a small part of her brain alive and thats when they tortured her
Also Garion wouldnt have the 0.1 resistances from the CoreS
Claws are a bit inconsistent with their difficulty as in LCorp they are easy as long as you stagger them but they still can kill people but in LoR, Baral isnt even close to getting staggered unless your doing one of those “kill Baral” challenges
Also for a bit of lore as to why people say Gebura isnt close to Kali
Myo has directly said when sending the rabbits against CoreS Gebura that she isnt as strong as she used to be
Which might be underestimating her but considering how well they know each other might be accurate
@@figurativelysomebody
Rabbit Team 50% Dead during Gebura CS:
"Got half of the Rabbits eliminated. Still have some skills left in you, huh?"
Rabbit Team 80% Dead during Gebura CS:
"80% dead by her hand. She puts up a tough fight, what a monster. Though she’s still not nearly as good as she used to be."
Rabbit Team Completion during Gebura CS:
"Thanks to that strange body of yours, Red Mist, your strength is much greater than before. Though your expertise seems to have rusted."
CS Gebura and Binah are on completely different levels to everyone else, when *Kali* was pushed to the edge to manifest EGO **solely** from Mimicry's voice, then CS Gebura wielding **SIX** ALEPH weapons on her, even if she's just brute forcing instead of relying on "technique", is absolutely nothing to scoff at
All that just for Goatland to solo
Don't let her smoke.
YO IS THAT THE RED MIST?!?!?
In my humble opinion, the Red Mist peaked when she was a L corp sephirah. This is mostly because she had access to more powerful weapons (Mimicry's dps sucks), and she had better utilities.
Heaven gave her range and Road to Gold gave her teleportation. She also wielded Twilight, which dealt 60 damage per swing on average, while Mimicry only dealt 12.
If her physical strength wasn't diminished by becoming a sephirah, this version of her would definitely be the strongest.
Who's stronger depression man or the british depression man
She is probably stronger than that since she fought 2 claws and all the abnos at the site at the time. And these weren't the abnos we fight in lob corp, they didn't have the quiphoh deterrent, so they were on average around.... I think PM said that the deterrent nerfs abno's abilities by up to 60%? So imagine fighting Nothing There, but at twice the strength before taking on Garion.
Granted her fight in library of Ruina, Binah can solo the red mist if played correctly but then so can Roland, so idk if that fight is a good baseline or not.
IS THAT THE RED MIST?????
I think I remember it being said that the city doesn't keep very good historical records. If this is the case could fixers form the far past like the knight of the white moon potentially be stronger than the Red mist?
then how much sinclairs does it take to beat kali
5.4 Billion
three sinclairillion
Kali does not represent gebura in prime... She represent gebura befor charackter dewelopment therefor she is weeker and less violent... Somehow...
but ut was time she can legaly call herself red mist so ye kali is the onley option to say how strong red mist is
Do you think the red mist is still the strongest fixer? Or have fixers like the red gaze and purple tear surpassed her?
Lung cancer vs the red mist
The Red Mist the f nightmare
She The Strongest Fixer, at least in our time.
I have a problem with the speed scaling, which is the fact that it takes the animation and assumes that the animation is near instant because it happens in a single frame. That "0.0002" seconds it takes is obviously a bullshit number pulled out of their ass, and only exists because of the animation happening in a single frame which is purely a game mechanic.
Even worse, if they wanted to scale off game mechanics, they should just have used Nemo's energy beam, because that is LITERALLY a beam of light.
Yeah, it felt like too much to me too, but considering there are bullshit abnormalities like 'Don't Touch Me' and 'Bald Abnormality", as well as overpowered things like the Concept Incinerator, everything seems possible. We'll most likely understand the full power of all PM characters by the end of Limbus Company or during the June 985 Incident. For now, there's nothing completely certain.
@@MilkshakeMan06 The abnormalities aren't really an issue. Both of those abnormalities you mentioned are "safe" anomalies that need to be interacted with before they take effect, and thus can't be used for scaling because the Red Mist didn't need to fight them (they can't even get out of the damn box in the first place.) The ones you mentioned are also one-time abnormalities or jokes that are slapped in there as a reference to the ridiculous gimmicks of the anomalous objects in the SCP Foundation and Lobotomy Corp being a game that pays homage to that series.
The problem I have with the speed scaling calc is that in terms of game mechanics, it's not even the best in its class and shouldn't be brought up in the first place when deflecting a concentrated laser on reaction is straight up better and gets you numbers that are thousands of times larger since the speed of light in a vacuum is mach 874,030.
Realistically in terms of lore feats, the Vespa feat puts Red Mist at a baseline of Mach 25-40 since each district covers around 30-50 kilometers and assuming Vespa can leap that distance in a single second, while heavily injured and carrying another person, and Red Mist being the only character with an infinite speed die making her faster than any other character, it's safe to say that she easily reaches that speed and is most likely a lot faster. But yeah. Lowballed she is mach 25 (which is impressive already considering that's the speed of escape velocity on Earth, meaning she's literally fast enough to leap into orbit with barely any effort!) and highballed using game mechanics she reaches relativistic speeds. And if you really want to bullshit it with the game mechanics you can say that her mass attack/E.G.O form is FTL or even infinite because it straight up goes before beam attacks (due to being AoE) and rolls high enough to shut down something like Baral's Serum W which literally teleports you across the whole library, with the library itself being an infinite space on the inside, stated by Yesod's dialogue, pre-realization.
Ricardo vs Yujiro
can you do binah next?!
shes kaliversal, (roland next pls)
HOLY SHIT IS THAT THE RED MIST
Can you make a video about the power scale of ERLKING heath?
The Strongest
the speed math logic can't be right by any means but hey, its just fiction.
Do a roland scaling
You see red mist is low multiversal since uhhhhh light novel i just made up in my head 😁
I know this is a joke, but there is an Abnormality called 'Don't Touch Me' that crashes your game, which means that the Abno is boundless in terms of power scaling
@Onyxx0425 I know I'm just making fun of people who try and power scale light novel characters who get neg diffed by even the worst written characters in the writing department
@ you mean distortion detective or the video?
@Onyxx0425 neither just try and power scale with someone who reads light novels they'll bring up the most unknown fodder you've ever heard out but apparently there some multiversal god 😂 but they have the writing of a cutting board
The answer: The Strongest
But cAN sHe BeAT GoKU?
If she has access to every singularity and is supercharged by the Lights (“Angela, turn on the Light making machine”) then maybe she can beat his base form
@@dungeonmaster0656 to be fair, if she can match his base form and had support via the other floors, she'd beat Goku, period, because stuff like powernull on Binah's floor means Goku can't power up beyond his base form anyway since power gain or loss is banned on the conceptual level. Problem is that Goku's base form could like, blow up a planet. So Red Mist isn't going to beat that unless all the crackhead wank PM theories are true which they most likely aren't.
@@EverettLobotomy Yeah I honestly don’t see Kali even touching end of OG DB Goku let alone Z Goku, Man is stronger than people that can blow up the moon and by the time he reach Saipan Saga he already beats Vegeta who in the anime can blow up planet with a finger blast.
Hm
I dont really like Gebura all that much.
Whis get the Gebura killer
Shut up Angry Red Woman
Hag Arbiter Go Brrr
Damn this wiki only describes warrior of light from ffxiv in shadowbringers. By dawntrail they can easily be stronger than most project moon characters
Kali is Kali-versal
i think prime kali would be = or maybe more than the black silence
Red Mist
Bait used to be believable- HOLY SHITTLES
Meursault-shake
Is that the Vermillion Smoke from Allusions?
🥱
Minimum can solo an arbi
Yo Bro!!! Please make Guts Vs Homelander!!! And make sure you’ve Read and Watch all of Berserk Down to its Last Content!!!! And Make How Far Will Homelander Truly make it into The Berserk Universe?
She's THE STRONGEST.
epic vid
The biggest problem with this vid is that bullets and firearms in the PM verse are very weak and only really good for supprise attacks
By law they cant pierce buildings or steel
This lore is brought to you by korens that dont understand firearms lmao
God i love PM
The key word is "piercing". They have elaborated more on this regulations recently and pulverizing the wall and everything behind it into dust and rubble is totally ok. So no, Project Moon guns are in no way weaker than IRL guns, it's just that augmentation and other equipment of the same price range is just better, since the Head wants to have guns an awful cost/effectiveness ratio. Read/Watch the Uptie stories of Fullstop Office IDs for Heathcliff and Hong Lu for more information.
@tonaris2285
I've been playing since day one and have everything in limbus dude
The bullets you were talking about were special ones specifically for "pulverizeing"
The regulations also specifically stated that the longer the gun the lower the caliber
So hong lus pistol at point blank range harmlessly deflecting off of the steel plate armor from the meat gear units while his workshop dagger sliced through it "like butter" would very much indicate how much weaker PM verse guns are to real guns in lore
Which just brings back the "PM don't understand firearms" bit from before
@@mageofvoid4282
The existence of singularity infused bullets exists.
Cant pierce walls? Use teleportation.
Too slow? Use time track to alter time around the bullet.
There is no way a singularity infused bullet is weaker than real guns, only issue is of course price.
The entire concept of the city is that you can break physics aslong as you have the money.
@@Alsry1
I am not talking about the highest end, top grade equipment
I'm talking about the standard fare stuff that anyone can get ahold of
I didn't think I needed to specify that but fine
You're not doing game mechanic scaling right.
Don't Touch Me is boundless because it crashes the game. The average abnormality is a HE/WAW, which is about 1.2x more powerful than a Zayin, and because hax = stats average abnormality is 1.2x boundless. Abnormalities are extracted from humans and because creation = hax = stats average project moon human is 1.2x boundless. Zena and Baral both have 800 health (rats have 10 hp, so that dividing 800 then multiplied by 1.2 is 96x outerversal each) which adds up to 288x boundless for the two claws and one arbiter Kali fought, so 288x boundless red mist. If a character fails to break something/is hurt by something, it's because whatever it is was also outerversal by x amount. The keter floor's floor, for example, is about 400x boundless given the final battle.
Anyways RabbitA from Black Souls still solos.
Yup this is what SCP powerscalers sound like.
Hol’ on Bro is onto something ✍️
Bait used to be…
Gojo’s greatest assets are an invulnerable shield and an attack that has durability negation
Binah is not Gojo on steroids
Not even from a narrative point of view
fairy can just cut open that barrier. no amount of defense stops fairy from opening things. also yeah she doesn't have a bubble of no u around her. doesn'T mean she doesn't have a lot more things that do still make it work. like I don't know. just being able to chain someone in place. Pillars that can do pale damage
I remember when binah did a hollow purple for my red mist reception it was lit
Binah also has attacks that negate defense and can cut through things at a conceptual level.
Binah claps fraudjo. She can literally bypass infinity with fairy making him light work for binah once he's vulnerable to attacks
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Nah, I’d win.
the strongest
The Myongest
Gebura's prowess
if you think the red mist is strong, remember, she can be beaten by a single clerk
Oh look a funny video appeared in my recommended pa- HOLY AYIN IS THAT THE RED MIST
To correct u the fight between the arbiter and the red mist ended with a draw.
red mist won (extremely high diff)
Kali
idk like 1/1000ths of a goku
The strongest.
video concept: Distorted Bamboo Hatted Kim VS Kusonoki masashige from the mimic (roblox)
i think shes as strong as the red mist
Since she is weak to full-stopping, its not a capable opponent.
strong enough to defeat goku
kaliiiiiii
Short answer: Not stronger than an Arbiter
Roland>>>>
"How good is LeBron James?"
Just put the Hamhampangpang in the bag bro💔
glaze
I heard shes strong but my yesod is stronger
Red mist vs sukuna
Nah, she cooks fraudkuna
@@Abraham_the_pierraSometimes, We just gotta open our eyes
Sukuna watching his world cutting slash do literally nothing and then getting hit with Greater split: Vertical
@@byyuwryy7905 Gebura watching as Sukuna heals from the slash and gives her the binah treatment
@@KT1T1436and then the black silence appeared and chopped off his hands and head, what a mood killer
She is The Strongest
Vergilius still solos trust me (I'm totally not just salty about Kali's fanbase being annoying)
Vergus vergilly
Rolan