I bought the CB650R 5 months again as my first bike and it has been nothing but amazing for me. At all speeds it has way more power than needed and is forgiving all through the gears and speeds. It has given me so much confidence as a new rider and I wouldn’t change to anything else as it suits me perfect, Other than a CB1000r at some point 😁
@@alviss5852 honestly I am 44 years old and got into bikes at the end of last year and this bike has made me fall in love with having a bike. I was buying a BMW F900R but it was taking a while to arrive so I cancelled it and I am glad I did. The Honda cb650r is so easy to ride and you will have to get the heated grips and quickshifter fitted. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼 have fun and be safe
Awesome! I just bought a 2023 CB650R in gray and pick it up tomorrow for my first bike. I was very close to getting the mt07 but this bike arrived at the dealer randomly and I fell in love. Can't wait to ride it home tomorrow!
I love my CB650r! I bought it for my first "real" bike and I've never looked back. It's got plenty of power to have fun with and incredible manners around town or in traffic. I was VERY lucky because my local dealership was offering a sale on model year close out so I was able to get mine with no ABS and $1500 off! Great video and keep up the good work.
I've owned a GSXR 600 and a Yamaha R6. This is my fifth motorcycle and I'm in my 50s. It is plenty of motorcycle and keeps me from being stupid and getting into trouble. I was willing to pay the extra price because I love how it looks. I've even enhanced the café racer style with clip on bars and bar end mirrors. I get compliments wherever I go!
Nice review and I think your conclusion is pretty spot on. I’d still take the CB650R over the trident (and I did). There’s something to be said for Honda reliability over the trident. Triumph is not known for reliability. The triumph does have some good electronics which I wish they would put in the Honda but at the end of the day, when you are on a winding canyon road, I would want to be revving the CB650R to red line and it would be so much more fun than the MT07 with its “all bark no bite” power band. I haven’t ridden the Trident but just based on the Dyno graph I can guess how it would feel to ride, punchy but less rush at the top. I mean the trident and Honda make the same torque you just have to rev the Honda more which is fun and exciting. I love my CB650R and I think it’s a real shame that it hasn’t sold better. It’s the best bike in its category but everyone buys the MT07 because of the sound and torque. It’s fine if you just ride around town but get that CP2 on a windy road and you’ll quickly realise it runs out of breath really quickly.
How is it underrated when this segment when there are so few options to choose from. You either go cheap with the ninja 650 or go expensive with the aprilia 660. R7 is in the middle with a less expensive price tag and decent HP output with better torque.
@@TypicalMT You are right to a certain extent. I picked the cb650 over the mt-09 and not regret it at all. There are so much factor when buyer make decision, power is one of them but not the solo factor. To be honest, do i like the style and power of the mt-09 ? yes i do but do i want to change my cb650 to the mt-09 ? no i wont
Really nice bike! Rode one for a weekend and put a couple of hundred km on it. However, after that I did some test rides and went for a Triumph Street Triple with Triumph Trident 660 in close contention. The Streety costs a tad more but offers a bit more power and torque as well as quickshifter and riding modes. Also felt more like a bike I would keep and also gain experience on it as more advanced rider. So far I am right. Anyway: both feel solidly built. Both Honda and both Triumphs I I feel are suitable as potential first bike (with EU license). With Trident targeted as more beginner oriented. In any case, when ever offered to ride the Honda again, I wouldn’t dare to say no. Only negative point on the Honda I would say is the display. Do like the analog tacho and LCD speedo on my Streety R so much more…… Is so much easier to read at a glance. And, for instance, the display on the Trident is also much better and much easier to read than the one on the Honda. Not offering rider modes etc is a choice and I would not see it as negative persé, though it is nice to have it. No counting it against the bike.
Thanks for this detailed comment. I owned a Street Triple 675R for a few years and it's what made me fall in love with Triumph. Enjoy it. You made a great choice. Cheers!
Great review! Factual and analytic. I have a Cb 500 f right now. I think my next bike will be one from this range, or else something like a Triumph Tiger 850 adventure style bike. 🏍
I rented this bike for a day while in Thailand. I very much enjoyed the ride and having the extra power, over the commonly rented scooters, to exit a possible bad situation. 👍
That was a really good review, thank you! I am currently split between the CB650R and the CB500X. I want to do a little bit of touring and the CB500X might be slightly better as it's already done up. Saying this I do love the styling and power specs on the 650. Why does it have to be this hard 😀
Thanks! Yeah. I understand your struggle. They’re different bikes in their ultimate goals. Agreed the CB650R looks better but the 500X meets the adventure/touring needs much better. Good luck deciding and let us know what you get!
I had similar dilema, I was considering CB500X, but coming from KTM Duke 390 (2014) I found it's not an upgrade power-wise, just feeling bigger and much much heavier. CB500X is not a bad choice (especially 2022 with better suspension and brakes), but I don't regret buying 2021 CB650R. Who says you can't do touring on CB650R? Sure you can :) She just does not feel happy offroad, the belly is too low and tires are too wide for that, she likes to stay on the road, uncomparable to CB500X. I didn't help you much, did I? ;-)
@@lighthunt I finally decided to get the CB500X, called Honda and it's not looking good. The price is up and the earliest they can get one would be September. I am going to contact a few more dealers around me and see if I can get one earlier. I guess that by September there will be a new 2023 model lol. I also found that Kawasaki is doing Modern Classics and I absolutely love the look of the Z650RS. That's an option, but it's nearly £8k which is pushing it.
@@superrat-u7x Hope you get more luck. How about second hand cb500x from someone looking for more power? kawi z650rs looks really pretty on photos, but they say their 650 is the most uninspiring off all engines in 650 class, and in comparison to Hondas they cheap out on suspension and brakes too. I am not familiar with UK market, but if price is close to cb650r, I would personally consider cb650r or Trident in 650 class (or yamaha xsr700).
@@lighthunt I keep looking for second hand motorbikes in general, but I am not finding a good deal so far. I will keep looking and I am sure that I will find something soon. I was just researching on the z650rs and you are right. The trident is supposed to be better in that class. I appreciate you letting me know. My helmet, jacket and boots would suit the cb650r nicely 😎 I used to have a cruiser haha
I just love that thing !!! Just be sure to get the right colour (red of course) and just look at that magnificent motorcycle cooling down after a great ride.
You mention the Honda's lack of low end torque compared to others in the segment but fail to mention the exhilarating rush of top end power that its competitors lack. Seems like you poodled around in high gear / low rpm all the time. That's not how you discover what this bike is all about.
"That in no way means the CB650R is boring. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. There is plenty of fun to be had on this bike. It just requires you to work the revs to extract the most out of it." Appreciate the comment! That's the exact point I was making when I said the above quote in the video. I prefer low-end and midrange torque vs high-end horsepower when it comes to middleweight standards. If you personally like the high revs, go get a CB650R. Although, the Trident makes its peak horsepower at redline above 10,000 rpm. Meaning that it's also decently rev-happy if you want it to be. But it still makes great low-end torque. That's the reason why I love triple engines. They make good power and torque everywhere. There are plenty of videos of people going 4x the speed limit on one wheel through a turn on public streets. Not my focus. I spent plenty of hours with this bike and I am well aware of what it will bring to the table for most riders considering one. That includes, High RPM, Low RPM, leaning over, and cruising. Fun fact, poodles are extremely smart dogs. One of the smartest dog breeds on the planet. Thanks again for the comment!
@@ridexdrive that is not the exact point. You cast the lack of low end torque as a negative - particularly in comparison with the Trident. But you never point out that the Teident runs out of breath at exactly the point that the CB hits its stride. And it's fine for you to prefer one to the other, as your description of having to "work" to enjoy the CB suggests. Simply stated, there are aspects of the power delivery on the Honda that are better than that of the Trident. Just as there are aspects of the Trident's power deliver that are better than the Honda. From a comparative point of view, you chose to only highlight the latter. That was less than balanced.
@@ridexdrive I thought your review was spot on. That’s how I feel about this bike too. Don’t worry about Roger. Obviously he’s defensive of this bike which makes him biased. That’s the vibe I’m getting reading his comments. Keep up your good work.
I don't know why but here at my place I get the cb650r for only about 7000 euros(2021/2022 model). Once I am done with my license I am gonna get it for sure. I love the design, everything else I am gonna find out once I can try it out, right now I can just drive the driving schools cb650f
Absolutely love this bike. Not only is it stylish, but it’s so well put together, and has that amazing in-line four soundtrack. The only thing that turned me off of it was the price. For Only $800 more “at the time” I bought a brand new Kawasaki Z 900. With way more horsepower and torque, rider modes, and a 4.5in Tft display
How are you liking your z900 so far?? I'm thinking that's the move for me as well. Although my last bike was a Honda. And I do live the way it was balanced and how it rides
@@KNCRKNCR-if9uf absolutely love it. Tons or toque on tap, great features, comfortable for me. My only complaints is that it’s geared a little too short. But can be fixed with new sprockets
@@toofastnobrakeshi sir, does the Z900 mis shift a lot going from 1sr gear to 2nd? I read a lot about this inherent issue on z900. I am thinking of getting one but this problem may be the deal breaker for me :( do share your experience Cts thanks !
@@Drumminz777 I personally have never had that issue. But I think I’ve heard about it somewhere before. It may just be bike to bike. I will say the shift lever was pretty stiff when I bought mine new. But now clicks in easy once broken in. Other than that no issue with mine
I was really on the fence over the z1000/900 but I just felt like they looked "too busy". The styling of the CB won me over. I'm not missing the extra power.
try taking it out on the hwy and it is a very different machine than the ones you say it competes with. maybe not a lot of low end grunt but on the hwy it's great. mind you, i enjoy revving a motorcycle.
the cb650r is at the same price point in my country, I may take a look on the triumph but honda offers trade in and my current bike is a xblade 160 so I think I may end up with the honda
I’m seriously considering trading my ducati scrambler for the Honda for 2 reasons. I live I a hot climate and the scrambler engine just is too hot; can barely take sitting at a traffic light without my legs burning. Second is Honda reliability. The ducati is a beautiful bike and I like that it’s 800cc, but it needs servicing, whereas the Honda not so much.
Looking for my first big bike and got my eyes on one of these. What's the biggest difference between the 2020 and 2022 models? Got one of each that I'm looking at. Theres only a 1000€ price difference between them, both driven about the same distance, around 4000 km. Which do you think I should consider first?
The main changes happened for the 2021 Model Year and carried over to 2022. Honda says, "For 2021, we’ve updated the engine, the styling, and most important, added a new 41mm Showa SFF-BP “Big Piston” fork, making a great machine even better." The engine had changes to the cams and timing to help the bike become Euro 5 compliant and ultimately more efficient. There would be no changes to performance, and if so, they would be minimum to unnoticeable. The handlebars move up 3 degrees, which helps ergonomically but also gives the LCD screen a better viewing angle. The headlight gets different reflectors, and the side panels are slightly different. I don't see much of this impacting the riding experience in any meaningful way for the vast majority of riders, but good information to keep in mind. The fork is changed from a Showa Separate Function Fork (SFF) to a Showa Separate Function Big Piston Fork (SFF-BP). That helped shed some weight. Overall the 2021/22 model is 2 pounds lighter than the 2020 model. 445 lbs vs 447lbs. This probably makes the most difference but is still not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, in my opinion. I hope this helps. Good luck shopping, and as I always say, if you can, ride before you buy!!
How is the LCD screen in bright sunlight in the summer ?, is it hard to read compared to the Kawasaki Z650 TFT screen? I really want to buy one of those bikes but i cant choose duo the screen. I have tested both bike’s a couple of times and they both don’t disappoint me when it comes to the engine’s, I am just unsure about the LCD screen on the Honda.
Assist slipper clutch. IMO it's very light. To the point some reviewer claimed, it's hard to find friction zone ... I don't have that problem though. (my other smaller lighter bike (Duke 390) clutch is 2x more heavy, but 2014 nodel isn't equipped with slipper clutch yet)
Thanks for the comment. I found the clutch to be light and predictable in its engagement. Keep in mind people have preferences on what they want a clutch to feel like. Most bikes in this segment have lighter clutches with engagement points in the mid to upper zones.
I would still personally get the Honda but the Z is a good bike. I always recommend you test ride a bike before buying, to see what you personally prefer.
Why why why.. first thing you gotta do is that fender eliminator. I have a cb300r and the factory one is sooo ugly. If they just shortened it by like 6-8”. Other than that, the bike is perfection for a 300. Love my cb300r. Edit: also the 650 has a much nicer exhaust than the 300. It’s just way too big in my opinion. 650 is much sleeker.
Hey! It depends on what you consider fun and what generation GSX-R600 you have. A newer GSX-R has more "performance" in almost every area. More horsepower, better suspension and brakes, and so forth. So if you're looking for something that can match one of those for outright top-end horsepower in a straight line or the ability to get the most lean angle in a turn and brake feel during a hard stop, the GSX-R600 is in a different class because it's a pure sport bike. But you can absolutely have fun on the CB650R if you understand what it's meant to do. It has plenty of power that peaks sooner than the Gixxer, and it's only down a few lb-ft of torque. Around town or carving up back roads, the CB650R can hold its own. But these are two different bikes, and I can't honestly say what you would find fun without knowing you personally and you're riding style. I can only suggest you try and find someone that is willing to let you test ride one to experience it for yourself. I went from a Honda CBR600RR (similar to the GSX-R600) to a Triumph Street Triple R 675 (Similar to the CB650R), and I would pick the Street Triple R every day over the Honda CBR600RR. But that's because the Triumph suits my riding style much better. Hope this somewhat helps!
@@ridexdrive wow great response and thank you for the Insight. I don't want to sell my 06 gsxr 600 but the insurance here in Canada cost more than my rent so it's a struggle owning a sport bike until I'm older, basically I want a naked bike crotch rocket that feels sporty as I personally ride aggressive. Inline 4 under 900cc would be nice, I'm debating between this and the street triple r 765
Of course! No problem. I’m biased but the Street Triple R 765 would be my choice. If you are an aggressive rider, even better. The 765 leans more towards sport than the CB. Get a nice exhaust and the Triple sounds just as menacing as any middleweight 4 cylinder sport bike. Add to that, great chassis components and the STR 765 is a perfect bike in my opinion. Only downside is the styling doesn’t appeal to everyone. I’m considering getting an STRS at some point. I absolutely love them. I will try and review an STR in the near future.
It can work for a beginner but it has enough power to get in trouble if you don’t have throttle control. Ride within your skill level and it’s a great bike to start with and has plenty of performance to grow into.
As a first bike yeah. It’s friendly enough for beginners but powerful enough that you won’t get bored once you develop more skills. Keep in mind this bike has enough power to get you in trouble if you don’t respect it. I assume you’re not in the USA. Licensing is different here for motorcycles. Not sure the requirements and what the market is like for these bikes outside of the United States. Perhaps someone who knows better can help with the licensing part. Thanks for the question. Cheers.
As mentioned in the video, that's power to the rear wheels on a dyno. Honda doesn't usually release official numbers. But yes, at the crank it should be around 94 horsepower. Thanks for the comment!
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A quote from Soichiro Honda (founder of Honda Motor Corp.)
"Four wheels move the body, two wheels, moves the soul."
I bought the CB650R 5 months again as my first bike and it has been nothing but amazing for me. At all speeds it has way more power than needed and is forgiving all through the gears and speeds. It has given me so much confidence as a new rider and I wouldn’t change to anything else as it suits me perfect, Other than a CB1000r at some point 😁
Thanks for sharing! Always great hearing from owners!!!
this comment give sme confidence to buy this as a first bike for me 250 just doesnt cut it in LA lol
@@alviss5852 honestly I am 44 years old and got into bikes at the end of last year and this bike has made me fall in love with having a bike. I was buying a BMW F900R but it was taking a while to arrive so I cancelled it and I am glad I did. The Honda cb650r is so easy to ride and you will have to get the heated grips and quickshifter fitted. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼 have fun and be safe
Awesome! I just bought a 2023 CB650R in gray and pick it up tomorrow for my first bike. I was very close to getting the mt07 but this bike arrived at the dealer randomly and I fell in love. Can't wait to ride it home tomorrow!
Really excited for you! Congrats. Enjoy it and be safe.
I love my CB650r! I bought it for my first "real" bike and I've never looked back. It's got plenty of power to have fun with and incredible manners around town or in traffic. I was VERY lucky because my local dealership was offering a sale on model year close out so I was able to get mine with no ABS and $1500 off! Great video and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment and for sharing your experience with your CB650R!
As a new rider I really appreciate how you broke down everything into digestible pieces. CB650R is at the top of my list!
Awesome. Thanks for sharing your feedback. Glad it was helpful!
I've owned a GSXR 600 and a Yamaha R6. This is my fifth motorcycle and I'm in my 50s. It is plenty of motorcycle and keeps me from being stupid and getting into trouble. I was willing to pay the extra price because I love how it looks. I've even enhanced the café racer style with clip on bars and bar end mirrors. I get compliments wherever I go!
It's an excellent road bike. Fun and premium to ride. It has more than enough power for street and highway riding.
Nice review and I think your conclusion is pretty spot on. I’d still take the CB650R over the trident (and I did). There’s something to be said for Honda reliability over the trident. Triumph is not known for reliability. The triumph does have some good electronics which I wish they would put in the Honda but at the end of the day, when you are on a winding canyon road, I would want to be revving the CB650R to red line and it would be so much more fun than the MT07 with its “all bark no bite” power band. I haven’t ridden the Trident but just based on the Dyno graph I can guess how it would feel to ride, punchy but less rush at the top. I mean the trident and Honda make the same torque you just have to rev the Honda more which is fun and exciting. I love my CB650R and I think it’s a real shame that it hasn’t sold better. It’s the best bike in its category but everyone buys the MT07 because of the sound and torque. It’s fine if you just ride around town but get that CP2 on a windy road and you’ll quickly realise it runs out of breath really quickly.
CB650R is the best option. It also retains its value best.
If you are in your 20s and want something more "fun", get the MT07.
I love my 2023 CB650R, it has the looks, build quality, and fun factor. Plus, I’m just a Honda guy at heart.
I watch a lot of these cycle vids / reviews. This was extremely informative and balanced. Well-done.
Thanks for sharing this!! We appreciate the compliment and definitely aim for a simple, balanced, and informative approach.
One of the most underrated in the 650 class
How is it underrated when this segment when there are so few options to choose from. You either go cheap with the ninja 650 or go expensive with the aprilia 660. R7 is in the middle with a less expensive price tag and decent HP output with better torque.
It’s just so overpriced. You can get an MT09 for the cb650r money.
@@TypicalMT You are right to a certain extent. I picked the cb650 over the mt-09 and not regret it at all. There are so much factor when buyer make decision, power is one of them but not the solo factor. To be honest, do i like the style and power of the mt-09 ? yes i do but do i want to change my cb650 to the mt-09 ? no i wont
Honda 4 cylinder engine
@@mightyhavan you make sence in every way man. But just look at it. 😍😍
In India, cb650r is priced 2000 dollars higher than trident 660
Really nice bike! Rode one for a weekend and put a couple of hundred km on it.
However, after that I did some test rides and went for a Triumph Street Triple with Triumph Trident 660 in close contention. The Streety costs a tad more but offers a bit more power and torque as well as quickshifter and riding modes. Also felt more like a bike I would keep and also gain experience on it as more advanced rider. So far I am right. Anyway: both feel solidly built. Both Honda and both Triumphs I I feel are suitable as potential first bike (with EU license). With Trident targeted as more beginner oriented.
In any case, when ever offered to ride the Honda again, I wouldn’t dare to say no.
Only negative point on the Honda I would say is the display. Do like the analog tacho and LCD speedo on my Streety R so much more…… Is so much easier to read at a glance. And, for instance, the display on the Trident is also much better and much easier to read than the one on the Honda.
Not offering rider modes etc is a choice and I would not see it as negative persé, though it is nice to have it. No counting it against the bike.
Thanks for this detailed comment. I owned a Street Triple 675R for a few years and it's what made me fall in love with Triumph. Enjoy it. You made a great choice. Cheers!
Just ordered the cb650r, can't wait for the snow to melt! It's an awesome looking bike 🏍️
Congrats! Safe riding!
Congratulations! You will not regret it, believe me 😉
you'll not regret it, believe me🔥
Just got it a few days ago. Love it! 🤩
@@jessejunkkarinen2247 how’s it been so far?
Great review! Factual and analytic. I have a Cb 500 f right now. I think my next bike will be one from this range, or else something like a Triumph Tiger 850 adventure style bike. 🏍
Thanks for the comment! Be sure to come back and let us know what you get in the future.
I rented this bike for a day while in Thailand. I very much enjoyed the ride and having the extra power, over the commonly rented scooters, to exit a possible bad situation. 👍
That’s awesome. Sounds like a good trip.
You ranked the bike low when initially you didn’t have a ride on it?? Wow!!! 👏 👏
That was a really good review, thank you! I am currently split between the CB650R and the CB500X. I want to do a little bit of touring and the CB500X might be slightly better as it's already done up. Saying this I do love the styling and power specs on the 650. Why does it have to be this hard 😀
Thanks! Yeah. I understand your struggle. They’re different bikes in their ultimate goals. Agreed the CB650R looks better but the 500X meets the adventure/touring needs much better. Good luck deciding and let us know what you get!
I had similar dilema, I was considering CB500X, but coming from KTM Duke 390 (2014) I found it's not an upgrade power-wise, just feeling bigger and much much heavier. CB500X is not a bad choice (especially 2022 with better suspension and brakes), but I don't regret buying 2021 CB650R. Who says you can't do touring on CB650R? Sure you can :) She just does not feel happy offroad, the belly is too low and tires are too wide for that, she likes to stay on the road, uncomparable to CB500X. I didn't help you much, did I? ;-)
@@lighthunt I finally decided to get the CB500X, called Honda and it's not looking good. The price is up and the earliest they can get one would be September. I am going to contact a few more dealers around me and see if I can get one earlier. I guess that by September there will be a new 2023 model lol. I also found that Kawasaki is doing Modern Classics and I absolutely love the look of the Z650RS. That's an option, but it's nearly £8k which is pushing it.
@@superrat-u7x Hope you get more luck. How about second hand cb500x from someone looking for more power? kawi z650rs looks really pretty on photos, but they say their 650 is the most uninspiring off all engines in 650 class, and in comparison to Hondas they cheap out on suspension and brakes too. I am not familiar with UK market, but if price is close to cb650r, I would personally consider cb650r or Trident in 650 class (or yamaha xsr700).
@@lighthunt I keep looking for second hand motorbikes in general, but I am not finding a good deal so far. I will keep looking and I am sure that I will find something soon. I was just researching on the z650rs and you are right. The trident is supposed to be better in that class. I appreciate you letting me know. My helmet, jacket and boots would suit the cb650r nicely 😎 I used to have a cruiser haha
Honda is best sounding bike in this size. Reminds me of CB500 Four or CBX750.
I just love that thing !!!
Just be sure to get the right colour (red of course) and just look at that magnificent motorcycle cooling down after a great ride.
I love my blue cb650r, it is so good looking bike!
@@jessejunkkarinen2247 That bike looks cool in any colour !
Appreciate the honest review, with comparisons to other bikes.
For sure! Thanks for the comment.
You mention the Honda's lack of low end torque compared to others in the segment but fail to mention the exhilarating rush of top end power that its competitors lack. Seems like you poodled around in high gear / low rpm all the time. That's not how you discover what this bike is all about.
"That in no way means the CB650R is boring. In fact, it’s the exact opposite. There is plenty of fun to be had on this bike. It just requires you to work the revs to extract the most out of it."
Appreciate the comment! That's the exact point I was making when I said the above quote in the video. I prefer low-end and midrange torque vs high-end horsepower when it comes to middleweight standards. If you personally like the high revs, go get a CB650R. Although, the Trident makes its peak horsepower at redline above 10,000 rpm. Meaning that it's also decently rev-happy if you want it to be. But it still makes great low-end torque. That's the reason why I love triple engines. They make good power and torque everywhere.
There are plenty of videos of people going 4x the speed limit on one wheel through a turn on public streets. Not my focus. I spent plenty of hours with this bike and I am well aware of what it will bring to the table for most riders considering one. That includes, High RPM, Low RPM, leaning over, and cruising. Fun fact, poodles are extremely smart dogs. One of the smartest dog breeds on the planet. Thanks again for the comment!
@@ridexdrive that is not the exact point. You cast the lack of low end torque as a negative - particularly in comparison with the Trident. But you never point out that the Teident runs out of breath at exactly the point that the CB hits its stride. And it's fine for you to prefer one to the other, as your description of having to "work" to enjoy the CB suggests. Simply stated, there are aspects of the power delivery on the Honda that are better than that of the Trident. Just as there are aspects of the Trident's power deliver that are better than the Honda. From a comparative point of view, you chose to only highlight the latter. That was less than balanced.
👍 thanks
@@ridexdrive I thought your review was spot on. That’s how I feel about this bike too. Don’t worry about Roger. Obviously he’s defensive of this bike which makes him biased. That’s the vibe I’m getting reading his comments. Keep up your good work.
Haha. It’s fine. Tis the internet. Thanks for the comment and happy to hear someone thinks I make sense 😂
I don't know why but here at my place I get the cb650r for only about 7000 euros(2021/2022 model). Once I am done with my license I am gonna get it for sure. I love the design, everything else I am gonna find out once I can try it out, right now I can just drive the driving schools cb650f
Just found your channel, and I like what I see! Keep up the good work! Your voice is passionate, and your opinion isn't filtered.
Really grateful for the comment! Means a lot.
Best motorcycle video/review I’ve ever seen, amazing analysis and incredible knowledge on every aspect. Great job.
That's very kind. Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, and it was helpful!
Absolutely love this bike. Not only is it stylish, but it’s so well put together, and has that amazing in-line four soundtrack. The only thing that turned me off of it was the price. For Only $800 more “at the time” I bought a brand new Kawasaki Z 900. With way more horsepower and torque, rider modes, and a 4.5in Tft display
How are you liking your z900 so far?? I'm thinking that's the move for me as well. Although my last bike was a Honda. And I do live the way it was balanced and how it rides
@@KNCRKNCR-if9uf absolutely love it. Tons or toque on tap, great features, comfortable for me. My only complaints is that it’s geared a little too short. But can be fixed with new sprockets
@@toofastnobrakeshi sir, does the Z900 mis shift a lot going from 1sr gear to 2nd? I read a lot about this inherent issue on z900. I am thinking of getting one but this problem may be the deal breaker for me
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do share your experience Cts thanks !
@@Drumminz777 I personally have never had that issue. But I think I’ve heard about it somewhere before. It may just be bike to bike. I will say the shift lever was pretty stiff when I bought mine new. But now clicks in easy once broken in.
Other than that no issue with mine
I was really on the fence over the z1000/900 but I just felt like they looked "too busy". The styling of the CB won me over. I'm not missing the extra power.
best middle weight naked bike
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Wow this is actually some quality content. Thank you!
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try taking it out on the hwy and it is a very different machine than the ones you say it competes with. maybe not a lot of low end grunt but on the hwy it's great. mind you, i enjoy revving a motorcycle.
Good review. I like this type of analysis. Very detailed but concise.
Thanks! Exactly what we’re aiming for.
the cb650r is at the same price point in my country, I may take a look on the triumph but honda offers trade in and my current bike is a xblade 160 so I think I may end up with the honda
Smart phone for gauges brings down an otherwise awesome looking bike.
I’m seriously considering trading my ducati scrambler for the Honda for 2 reasons. I live I a hot climate and the scrambler engine just is too hot; can barely take sitting at a traffic light without my legs burning. Second is Honda reliability. The ducati is a beautiful bike and I like that it’s 800cc, but it needs servicing, whereas the Honda not so much.
Wouldn't you miss the low end torque of the scrambler?
Trident 660 would be more like your Scrambler in character
Looking for my new first bike and I like this one good video and good info thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful. It’s a good choice. Thanks for the comment.
only gonna give 1 reason why its the best (for me) 1 word.............INLINE 4
Great review! Loved the rolling shots 😎
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Great video!! Very useful info !!
Thank you!
Useful review, thank you. How does the bike work for a pillion passenger please? Me and son are medium build and 1.88 tall
Great review. I prefer CB650R but the price always make it change.
Thanks! The CB650R is a great bike.
Hi Honda lovers, would you recommend this bile for taller riders ? I am 190cm tall
Excellent review!
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Awesome video!
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Which would you pick? Z900RS or CB650R?
Nice video! got some very good information. looking for a video of the Ducati Monster 950 !!!🔥🔥🔥
Hoping to film one soon! Thanks for the comment.
Looking for my first big bike and got my eyes on one of these. What's the biggest difference between the 2020 and 2022 models? Got one of each that I'm looking at. Theres only a 1000€ price difference between them, both driven about the same distance, around 4000 km. Which do you think I should consider first?
The main changes happened for the 2021 Model Year and carried over to 2022. Honda says, "For 2021, we’ve updated the engine, the styling, and most important, added a new 41mm Showa SFF-BP “Big Piston” fork, making a great machine even better." The engine had changes to the cams and timing to help the bike become Euro 5 compliant and ultimately more efficient. There would be no changes to performance, and if so, they would be minimum to unnoticeable.
The handlebars move up 3 degrees, which helps ergonomically but also gives the LCD screen a better viewing angle. The headlight gets different reflectors, and the side panels are slightly different. I don't see much of this impacting the riding experience in any meaningful way for the vast majority of riders, but good information to keep in mind.
The fork is changed from a Showa Separate Function Fork (SFF) to a Showa Separate Function Big Piston Fork (SFF-BP). That helped shed some weight. Overall the 2021/22 model is 2 pounds lighter than the 2020 model. 445 lbs vs 447lbs. This probably makes the most difference but is still not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, in my opinion.
I hope this helps. Good luck shopping, and as I always say, if you can, ride before you buy!!
Excellent review. Thank you.
Glad you appreciated it. Thanks for the comment.
If a used 2020 cb650r is $500 more than a 2023 trident... Which do I choose?
At this price the Honda seems to be competing with the Speed Triple R as well as the Trident .
How is the LCD screen in bright sunlight in the summer ?, is it hard to read compared to the Kawasaki Z650 TFT screen? I really want to buy one of those bikes but i cant choose duo the screen. I have tested both bike’s a couple of times and they both don’t disappoint me when it comes to the engine’s, I am just unsure about the LCD screen on the Honda.
Thanks for the review. How heavy is the clutch compared to the competitors ? I found the clutch is a bit heavy.
Assist slipper clutch. IMO it's very light. To the point some reviewer claimed, it's hard to find friction zone ... I don't have that problem though. (my other smaller lighter bike (Duke 390) clutch is 2x more heavy, but 2014 nodel isn't equipped with slipper clutch yet)
Thanks for the comment. I found the clutch to be light and predictable in its engagement. Keep in mind people have preferences on what they want a clutch to feel like. Most bikes in this segment have lighter clutches with engagement points in the mid to upper zones.
In india z900 and cb650r are same price…. Which do yu suggest
I would still personally get the Honda but the Z is a good bike. I always recommend you test ride a bike before buying, to see what you personally prefer.
Tough competition in this class.
Why why why.. first thing you gotta do is that fender eliminator. I have a cb300r and the factory one is sooo ugly. If they just shortened it by like 6-8”. Other than that, the bike is perfection for a 300. Love my cb300r.
Edit: also the 650 has a much nicer exhaust than the 300. It’s just way too big in my opinion. 650 is much sleeker.
Do you think I'll have fun on this coming down from a gsxr 600
Hey! It depends on what you consider fun and what generation GSX-R600 you have. A newer GSX-R has more "performance" in almost every area. More horsepower, better suspension and brakes, and so forth. So if you're looking for something that can match one of those for outright top-end horsepower in a straight line or the ability to get the most lean angle in a turn and brake feel during a hard stop, the GSX-R600 is in a different class because it's a pure sport bike.
But you can absolutely have fun on the CB650R if you understand what it's meant to do. It has plenty of power that peaks sooner than the Gixxer, and it's only down a few lb-ft of torque. Around town or carving up back roads, the CB650R can hold its own. But these are two different bikes, and I can't honestly say what you would find fun without knowing you personally and you're riding style. I can only suggest you try and find someone that is willing to let you test ride one to experience it for yourself.
I went from a Honda CBR600RR (similar to the GSX-R600) to a Triumph Street Triple R 675 (Similar to the CB650R), and I would pick the Street Triple R every day over the Honda CBR600RR. But that's because the Triumph suits my riding style much better. Hope this somewhat helps!
@@ridexdrive wow great response and thank you for the Insight.
I don't want to sell my 06 gsxr 600 but the insurance here in Canada cost more than my rent so it's a struggle owning a sport bike until I'm older, basically I want a naked bike crotch rocket that feels sporty as I personally ride aggressive.
Inline 4 under 900cc would be nice, I'm debating between this and the street triple r 765
Of course! No problem. I’m biased but the Street Triple R 765 would be my choice. If you are an aggressive rider, even better. The 765 leans more towards sport than the CB. Get a nice exhaust and the Triple sounds just as menacing as any middleweight 4 cylinder sport bike. Add to that, great chassis components and the STR 765 is a perfect bike in my opinion. Only downside is the styling doesn’t appeal to everyone. I’m considering getting an STRS at some point. I absolutely love them. I will try and review an STR in the near future.
@@ridexdrive I see you have lots of reviews, totally deserving of more subs and you're right about the styling it's perfect besides the headlines 👁👁
Appreciate it! Yeah. The eyes lol
I want one after this video
Awesome to hear!
would this bike be suitable for a beginner?
It can work for a beginner but it has enough power to get in trouble if you don’t have throttle control. Ride within your skill level and it’s a great bike to start with and has plenty of performance to grow into.
Muito bom o vídeo....
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Is this okay for someone who plans get an A license and as a first bike ?
As a first bike yeah. It’s friendly enough for beginners but powerful enough that you won’t get bored once you develop more skills. Keep in mind this bike has enough power to get you in trouble if you don’t respect it. I assume you’re not in the USA. Licensing is different here for motorcycles. Not sure the requirements and what the market is like for these bikes outside of the United States. Perhaps someone who knows better can help with the licensing part. Thanks for the question. Cheers.
@@ridexdrive Thank you makes sense :)
For money value I'd go with z900..
Has anyone road the cb650r and the cbr650r? I’m buying one or the other I’m not sure which one is better for me
Just curious. Do you not have the opportunity to ride both yourself? That’s really the best way to find out which is best.
Wow almost 3 grand more than the euro price !!!
What is the black Ducati at 1:32 ?
In the showroom? It's a Ducati Diavel.
Honda😘
I just want a inline4 that isn't a supersport 😂
@@Mr0901 then this bike would be perfect
A mt07 looks bigger and better
The honda cb650r has 94 hp not 80.
As mentioned in the video, that's power to the rear wheels on a dyno. Honda doesn't usually release official numbers. But yes, at the crank it should be around 94 horsepower. Thanks for the comment!
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Excellent review, thank you !
Thanks! Appreciate the comment.