Watch old baseball footage. The pitcher got back on the mound and the batters got back in the box quick. New baseball has become a slow slog of waiting for the batter and pitcher to slowly decide who is icing who. That's a new thing. The pitch clock forces things back to old baseball. Get the ball and huck it, get in the box and hit it.
old baseball wasnt rushed and I grew up watching it. It felt natural. I think if anything they should add a few more seconds to the clock. Regardless, I think its less baseball than what you're complaining isnt baseball. Baseball should never have a clock and it feels wrong.
@Sam0 B00 it’s probably some middle ground. I don’t like guys walking around before getting in the box or on the rubber, but I also really don’t way to see someone throwing rapid fire because we’re trying to get through the game faster.
Average length of NFL games- 3 hours and 12 minutes. Average length of MLB games- 3 hours and 5 minutes. Average actual playing time in NFL- 11 minutes. Actual playing time MLB- 18 minutes. So tired of this "baseball is boring troupe".
Looking at TV replays of World Series games from the fifties I noticed that pitchers got rid of the ball very quickly and hitters didn't waste time either. Few will miss Bryce Harper taking 40 seconds to prepare for the next pitch or hitters readjusting their gloves after every pitch (even when the bat never left their shoulder!)
As a Cardinals fan hearing Clemens put Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan in the same sentence is so satisfying. People know Gibson was a great pitcher I just never hear people talk about him enough though.
He got the career Cy Young, an almost untouchable Strikeout record. I say almost because the rate some of these guys are striking out at are absolutely ludicrous.
"Baseball, america's pastime, pastime, i am using that word intentionally, because the legacy of baseball..." on the way to asking about the pitch clock eventually
Damn, that name just gave me nostalgic goosebumps!! Remember David Justice, Sandy & Roberto Alomar? Sorry, just nami g old baseball players from my childhood
The only reason we need all the "extra entertainment" to make things "interesting" today is because: the game sucks today. And that's on the front office, it's on the sabermetrics, it's on the coaches and it's on the players. And above all, it's about the attitude - or the attitudes. I've watched the old baseball games here on YT. I'm glad they were saved for posterity, that is some of the best baseball you will ever watch.
22 y/o college baseball player here. I completely agree. Small ball, manufacturing runs thru stealing bases, bunts, hit and runs, etc is a way more efficient and entertaining way to play the game. Sending 9 dudes to the plate and expecting the long ball every time is gonna make you lose the battle every time. And that’s boring. The youth of today wants to see exciting players, many of which we have today, but aren’t promoted well by the MLB (JRod, Jazz Chisholm, Tim Anderson, Ronald Acuña, etc). The players alone will carry the sport, not stupid rules that won’t work.
You want to see some old school baseball, watch a 1990 white sox game. Those guys did everything they could to scratch out an extra base. It’s like watching a dead ball era team
@@subg8858 I would suggest taking a look at Game 7 of the 1952 WS between the Yankees an Dodgers. The whole broadcast is here on YT. Hands down one of the best baseball games I have ever watched.
I think the strategy may backfire when there’s more of the true outcomes than before. I could see pitchers walking more trying to rush, and I can really see a lot more k’s from hitters not quite ready.
The NBA implemented the defensive 3 second lane violation and eliminated handchecking and you dont see todays NBA players complain about it. It drove up scoring and the players do what they do. The players always adapt and the analysts will figure out a way to game that system.
The key to the pitch clock is going to be if pitchers can make it work for them, like Scherzer is experimenting with. I really see offense going down this year and will continue to be down with the one time rule per at bat. Say for example you’re a pitcher, you’re facing a pull hitter, first pitch you go outside edge- if it’s a strike looking now you burn a pitch, but hold till below 8 seconds on the clock, that hitter isn’t going to be comfortable and call time. Now it’s 1-1 but they have no way to stop the at bat. Fast pitch once, then slow pitch the other.
I think the pitch clock should be used with nobody on but once a runner gets on base it needs to be increased or removed , with nobody on you can have the clock but soon as runner reaches base the strategy of baseball comes in.
The game theory is still there. Different leg kicks, mixing up your times the plate, possibility for more day light plays since they're now limited at picking off etc.
I'm an old man and I've watched and played baseball for multiple decades - I say that because I have SOME perspective and I'd offer that blaming changes on 'shorter attention spans' and not an attempt to address a fundamental flaw in baseball is a bit of a cop out. Baseball has some of the best action in sports once it actually occurs, but it also has some of the longest periods of inaction in sports which has slowly made the game inaccessible to folks that have a less-than-3.5-hour allocation of time for their favored sport..
They should have simply made it an 18 second clock with no one on, and a 24 second clock with runners on. That would speed things up just a little, while still allowing some strategy and nuance.
Baseball doesn’t need to speed up “a little”. People don’t want to sit around for 3 or 4 hours when there’s 6 games a week. Make these games 2 hours long like the old days. Look at the nba, 2 hours and 20 minutes. The nba gets it and they’re already cashing in on the benefits
Honestly one of the biggest issues with baseball is a lot of people don’t understand the mental aspect. And what the goals are. I think the tv broadcast could do a better job at explaining what the pitcher is trying to do and all the mental games that go along. The avg person thinks it’s just a guy throwing and another guy blindly swinging. If people understood how much goes into a pitch and how much you study hitters. There’s a lot of entertainment value there but you gotta really understand the game to truly appreciate it.
No person wants to watch a 3 or and 3 half hour game when they play six days a week. Nba is 2 hours and 25 minutes. They get it. People don’t want to sit around for 3 or 4 hours
I remember couple times standing in the batters box waiting for a pitcher to pitch, while he was playing around with his Rosin bag, taking his hat off, stepping off the mound, clearing his cleats. It's long overdue for pitchers to pitch. They hold up the game more then anything.
He makes some interesting points, but players will adjust accordingly. 15 and 20 seconds is plenty of time to get yourself to pitch. Games were under 3 hours for most of baseball's history, so there's no reason to yell at clouds about the pitch clock.
"Pace of play" is a totally overblown issue. As much as people talk about "batters adjusting their batting gloves between every pitch," actual pace of play on the field hasn't changed much over the last few decades. Games are a bit longer than they were a few decades ago, but that is the result of two main factors. 1) Over 10 minutes of commercial time was added between innings since 1984, and 2) during the '80s the use of situational pitching changes started to increase, and has continued over the years. Those extra 10 minutes of commercials and the added time for more pitching changes account for the vast majority of the added length of games since the '70s. When the players are actually on the field playing baseball, the game usually flows along at a perfectly reasonable, natural pace. Baseball is not meant to be played at warp speed at all times.
this is blatantly false on many levels. there was an average of 4 minutes between balls being put in play last year, the longest in the history of the game. these changes have shaved almost 30 seconds off that.
The only issue I have is the limiting of pick offs… I feel like it eliminates that whole aspect of the sport b/c the base runner can lead off as much as he wants if the pitcher throws over once
MLB wouldn't be in this situation if the batters stayed in the batters box and be ready for their job to hit. I hate the banning the shift because if they truly are hitters they would just hit the other way from the infielders
The thing is, if the defense turns Bryce Harper into a guy who tries to hit ground balls to short stop, the shift has won. They wouldn't even bother counter adjusting
@@jerryneil8558 actually outfielders dont shift the same way infielders do. Many hitters hit the ball to the opposite field in the air, just not very often on the ground
@@paulg6274 the shift has been going on since Ted Williams days the only difference is these players nowadays can't hit or refuse to hit a double down the other way because it is HR or nothing
@@jerryneil8558the *only* difference? 😄 what % if AB's were shifted on in Ted Willliams' day? Like 0.1%? Probably less. Shift in 2022 was like 45% iirc. This "back in the day baseball players were better" idea is boomer foke lore.
Hank Aaron: “Drysdale was tough, you know. If you didn’t hit him, he would hit you.” And: the manager once called for an intentional walk with Drysdale on the mound. He hit the batter because he didn’t want to waste four pitches to do what he could with one. (Of course, you actually had to pitch 4 balls intentionally in those days.) Different times.
You either like the game or you don't like the game. People have been complaining about the speed of the game for a long time. Yet still millions love and watch baseball. There is no reason to change the game for the few who don't appreciate the game for what it is.
@@jonny-dp2qr Explain. Even countries that were once baseball hotbeds are dying (Puerto Rico, Panama, Cuba, Nicaragua). Soccer and basketball have pushed baseball off to the side.
Most of these pitchers grew up with pitch clocks in college and travel ball. I pitched in college in the 2000’s and we had pitch clocks on every single summer league tournament, travel hall tournaments or college invite tourneys. I’m not sure why it would be an adjustment ?
@@mikegeee3319 The Hall of Fame is meant as a museum for the best players in the game not as a moral institution. Roger Clemens was dominant and compiled a hell of a career before and after he took steroids. He deserves a spot in the hall. There are many players in the hall that also cheated as a product of their environment since the dawn of the game. What's even crazier is that if he retired in 2000 he would have most likely gotten into the hall much like Gaylord Perry, with an anecdote of how things were "back then". Instead he just happened to stick around long enough to be scapegoated by the same people who turned a blind eye on steroid use for the entire 90s. That's hypocritical.
@Lou Sassle It's not. Do you feel bad for a hockey player that holds another players stick and then gets a penalty for it? If he wanted in the HOF then he shouldn't have taken steroids and cheated. Plain and simple. He did it to himself. He made the decision and now he's paying for it. That's just the way life works.
Roger Clemens not understanding how pitching works? He says "Pitchers will become throwers with the pitch clock." Hmmmm....Nolan Ryan pitched without a pitch clock and pitched quickly. So did Warren Spahn, Tom Seaver, and Lefty Grove. And Greg Maddux pitched quickly. All of those pitchers would have comfortably been able to pitch the same way they did in real life if there had been a 20-second pitch clock. So, they were just "throwers?" The misconception about the pitch clock is that it "changes the game of baseball." It's not a CHANGE...it's a necessary mandate to get the pitcher vs. batter element of the game BACK TO THE PACE IT WAS FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS. From the 1870s to the 1970s, pitchers pitched without a pitch clock, but they didn't need one because they understood that pitching rhythm is important, and that doesn't mean holding the ball and overthinking every pitch as if it's the seventh game of the World Series. I shouldn't be surprised that a tone-deaf person like Clemens, who defrauded the public and needed illegal drugs to stay in baseball, doesn't understand the difference between a rule that returns baseball to what it was, and what he says it will be. Why does anyone actually listen to this joker anyway?
Man I read your comment and it’s pretty long. You wrote all that down and you literally have zero idea what the fuck you’re talking about. It’s so obvious you’re somebody who never played at a high level or has knowledge of the game so why would you think you know more than somebody like roger clemens? This is literally the equivalent of and 8th grader trying to school Einstein or physics. Just stay in your lane sweetheart cause you are freaking clueless
Pitch click is for little leaguers..And explain how replays a commercial breaks aren't the main reason for the game slowing down? I love when people like you say this is bringing back "old style baseball" when we have little league rules like the ghost runner....Sit down.
I've always thought the at bat should belong to the pitcher. Meaning.. once the batter first steps into the batter's box for the first time it's now the pitcher's decision on how or when he throws the ball until the batter is out or gets on base and the at bat is over. if the batter steps out to get his bearings and the pitcher zings one in for a quick strike too friggin bad. Better be ready.
that is why I watch old baseball from the 90s and early 2000s on youtube. like collage football it is totally about money, production and just getting out the product without the soul of it. like everything else in this land the history has gone by the wayside.
The psychological aspect of the game has been taken out. This generations attention span is as short as tik tok. People who really love baseball aren't looking at how long the game is. Their actually watching the game. The game within the game.
Most older people don’t understand how this will help the game tremendously by getting younger people more involved. Plenty of young people like baseball but aren’t going to sit down for over 3 hours of a game at home. Many of my friends watch multiple football games during football season and they’ll do the same with baseball now
Enlarging the bases is the change they should be discussing. Otherwise, forcing disrespectful fools to curtail their silly, grandstanding is a good thing...sad, that it requires establishing a formal rule to bring a-holes into line but what else is new
The problem isn't the pace of the game. The problem is MLB's inaccessibility. You can't watch the games unless you have cable or a MLB streaming service. God forbid you live within 4 hours of your team because they'll be blacked out anyway. NFL is on every tv screen. They promote themselves. They let the fans actually watch the games without forking over MORE of their hard earned money. MLB needs to take a look at that and not the length of the games. Look at what Disney has done with the marvel movies. It's the same 3 hour movie with a different title, but people still go watch that. The MLB doesn't value their fans, yet they are surprised the ratings are dropping. Changing the game is only going to drive away the fans that are still watching
The problem isn’t the pace of the game? Lmao yeah that’s you ask any random person on the street about baseball. What’s the first word they say??? BORING. Not a lot of other sports have that horrible reputation which is why mlb was forced to implement the pitch clock
no doubt, recently read they didn't even wear gloves in the early days. was considered weak to put a glove on so nobody did it for a long time. oh the good ol days.
I think roger is wrong in his assessment. He’s talking about how he pitched, how he played the game…but the thing is he’s one of the guys that caused 2.5 or 3 hr games to take an extra half hour. His generation started it. Pitchers will be fine they just have to adjust. That’s what high level athletes do.
i cant wait for the game i love to be timed resulting in a shorter, lesser, easier-to-play product! if only ALL my favorite things would be cut down, shortened, and simplified!
For old fans that want baseball to go back to the way it was the pitch clock and banning of the shift is literally doing that. Quick games with more chances to show off the defense will make the game so much more exciting than it has for the past 20 years.
@@DarthGuyver I completely agree with the ghost runner. However after playing for over 20 years myself I can tell you a quicker paced game is much better for everyone including the players!
well we live in reality. games drag on way too long now. baseball is dying if they don't do something to get younger fans interested. eliminating dead time is awesome.
3:00 what’s ironic is kids musical taste is slowing down these days they don’t want high energy fast tempo stuff they like more deliberate vibier slower stuff
You can play old school baseball with the pitch clock and the elimination of the shift. In fact, that IS old school baseball. The pitch clock will simply make the pitchers and batters stop their dancing and play baseball. I watched a video of the 9th inning of game 7 of the World Series from, I believe, 1968. The ENTIRE 9th inning was done in 15 minutes. That's old school baseball. I also watched a video where the ENTIRE half inning was completed in less time that it took for a reliever to throw his first pitch (2 pickoff attempts at 2nd, another bluff attempt, holding the set resulting in a step out by the batter, etc.) It was incredibly boring. Baseball has been more chess than action and I blame advanced analytics for that. Throw that crap out. It's time to get back to baseball.
Clemens is not old school. He is part of the problem of the last 20 years. Baseball may be more watchable with the clock. He is a douchebag but one of the best pitchers of all time
@@jayseaborg3895 Good point but a lot of the extra time today is commercial breaks. 2.5 hours was typical. So, the players need a pitch clock etc. so they can keep up with the advertising minutes..it's not the same.
@@tomf5823 Because the beauty of baseball is the team sport without having a clock like Futbol-Soccer, American Football and Basketball. Watch what happens....it will ruin the mood of game...not the same.
Baseball was made to be consumed & viewed live. But in a society that just wants to show up to take selfies and watch their phone, they had to go to a pitch clock.
I got 2 Rogers Clemons signed Toronto Blue Jays baseball cards gifted to my dad from his wife while they were at the airport. Whether3he gets in the H.O.F or not it's still something cool to have.
@@ElJefe1986 Nah....just don't make random comments on videos that have NOTHING to do with the actual videos...like butterflies for instance.....had just as much to do with the video as your baseball card comment did....both had NOTHING to do with it.
Maybe the pitch clock needs 2 extra seconds, but batters do some ridiculous dances to get positioned ready to bat and the clock cuts all that nonsense. What we need is electronic home umps calling balls and strikes.
Watch old baseball footage. The pitcher got back on the mound and the batters got back in the box quick. New baseball has become a slow slog of waiting for the batter and pitcher to slowly decide who is icing who. That's a new thing. The pitch clock forces things back to old baseball. Get the ball and huck it, get in the box and hit it.
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Games were faster back then because OF NO COMMERCIAL BREAKS!..
old baseball wasnt rushed and I grew up watching it. It felt natural. I think if anything they should add a few more seconds to the clock. Regardless, I think its less baseball than what you're complaining isnt baseball. Baseball should never have a clock and it feels wrong.
@Sam0 B00 it’s probably some middle ground. I don’t like guys walking around before getting in the box or on the rubber, but I also really don’t way to see someone throwing rapid fire because we’re trying to get through the game faster.
Average length of NFL games- 3 hours and 12 minutes. Average length of MLB games- 3 hours and 5 minutes. Average actual playing time in NFL- 11 minutes. Actual playing time MLB- 18 minutes.
So tired of this "baseball is boring troupe".
Looking at TV replays of World Series games from the fifties I noticed that pitchers got rid of the ball very quickly and hitters didn't waste time either. Few will miss Bryce Harper taking 40 seconds to prepare for the next pitch or hitters readjusting their gloves after every pitch (even when the bat never left their shoulder!)
Look back at every pivotal moment in baseball history, all of them would be an automatic strike today
@@bt1235 Not true.
@@bt1235 That’s why I think they should give them more time late in the game.
@@bt1235 bullshit
As a Cardinals fan hearing Clemens put Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan in the same sentence is so satisfying. People know Gibson was a great pitcher I just never hear people talk about him enough though.
Bob Gibson was a complete beast and how the hell Nolan Ryan never won a Cy young is regrettable
@@stevilkenevil9960 Ryan never had that kind of a season - over all others - to earn a cy young tho.
He got the career Cy Young, an almost untouchable Strikeout record. I say almost because the rate some of these guys are striking out at are absolutely ludicrous.
@@newagain9964 I’d argue he had a better season than Palmer in 1973
Bob Gibson was one of the ten best pitchers of all time. He belongs in the same sentence with anyone.
Adam doing a monologue when a 10 word question will get the job done.
He brought up some great points though.
"Baseball, america's pastime, pastime, i am using that word intentionally, because the legacy of baseball..." on the way to asking about the pitch clock eventually
@@vbettr2167 instead of cut it we can chop it
L take. Get your own podcast and do it your way then.
Foreal. Suprised he didn't start with, "The doctor spanked my behind and I was brought in to in thos world" 🤣
Damn Roger is a fantastic story teller!
thank god for baseball and the old school guys
Baseball player interviews from my time growing up are the best. Could you get Kenny Lofton on the show? He’s great in podcasts
Damn, that name just gave me nostalgic goosebumps!! Remember David Justice, Sandy & Roberto Alomar? Sorry, just nami g old baseball players from my childhood
@@AudricMorrison hell yeah I do imagine he could interview all these guys Cleveland had had the dream team
The only reason we need all the "extra entertainment" to make things "interesting" today is because: the game sucks today. And that's on the front office, it's on the sabermetrics, it's on the coaches and it's on the players. And above all, it's about the attitude - or the attitudes.
I've watched the old baseball games here on YT. I'm glad they were saved for posterity, that is some of the best baseball you will ever watch.
22 y/o college baseball player here. I completely agree. Small ball, manufacturing runs thru stealing bases, bunts, hit and runs, etc is a way more efficient and entertaining way to play the game. Sending 9 dudes to the plate and expecting the long ball every time is gonna make you lose the battle every time. And that’s boring. The youth of today wants to see exciting players, many of which we have today, but aren’t promoted well by the MLB (JRod, Jazz Chisholm, Tim Anderson, Ronald Acuña, etc). The players alone will carry the sport, not stupid rules that won’t work.
You want to see some old school baseball, watch a 1990 white sox game. Those guys did everything they could to scratch out an extra base. It’s like watching a dead ball era team
@@subg8858 I would suggest taking a look at Game 7 of the 1952 WS between the Yankees an Dodgers. The whole broadcast is here on YT. Hands down one of the best baseball games I have ever watched.
I think the strategy may backfire when there’s more of the true outcomes than before. I could see pitchers walking more trying to rush, and I can really see a lot more k’s from hitters not quite ready.
The NBA implemented the defensive 3 second lane violation and eliminated handchecking and you dont see todays NBA players complain about it. It drove up scoring and the players do what they do. The players always adapt and the analysts will figure out a way to game that system.
Everyone knows this man is a Hall Of Famer....you knew in the 80s...the 90s...and ever since. #21
He was a tremendous talent. But he disrespected the game and his competition and chose money over integrity. #LFGM
If everyone knows that then why isn't he in?
Well ig if he is so is Bonds etc
@@metaphoria3 of course...A-Rod, Manny, etc...
Celems is a lot like Bonds in that they were HOFers before the roids.. Bonds probably would have been at 500 HRs and Clemens like 280 wins
This is GOLD. Can't get any more important insights on pitching than this guy. Love the Big D story, too.
"This Guy".....Seriously......."This guy"??? That's Roger FREAKIN' CLEMENS!!!! WTF dude????
A 1-0 pitchers duel in the ninth is not likely to have been 3 hours long even before the pitch clock.
Yo Adam. Here's how to actually answer that question: "What are your thoughts on the new pitch clock in baseball?"
Well that would have been too easy. I’m surprised he did not call the rule “woke.”
The key to the pitch clock is going to be if pitchers can make it work for them, like Scherzer is experimenting with. I really see offense going down this year and will continue to be down with the one time rule per at bat.
Say for example you’re a pitcher, you’re facing a pull hitter, first pitch you go outside edge- if it’s a strike looking now you burn a pitch, but hold till below 8 seconds on the clock, that hitter isn’t going to be comfortable and call time. Now it’s 1-1 but they have no way to stop the at bat. Fast pitch once, then slow pitch the other.
I haven't played baseball since high school but this dude is hypnotic to listen to.
I could listen to him for hours... I pitched at the highest level and im still a huge fan of him
I think the pitch clock should be used with nobody on but once a runner gets on base it needs to be increased or removed , with nobody on you can have the clock but soon as runner reaches base the strategy of baseball comes in.
15 seconds with bases empty, 20 seconds with runners on base
The game theory is still there. Different leg kicks, mixing up your times the plate, possibility for more day light plays since they're now limited at picking off etc.
Love the Drysdale story. We loved him here in LA.
I'm an old man and I've watched and played baseball for multiple decades - I say that because I have SOME perspective and I'd offer that blaming changes on 'shorter attention spans' and not an attempt to address a fundamental flaw in baseball is a bit of a cop out. Baseball has some of the best action in sports once it actually occurs, but it also has some of the longest periods of inaction in sports which has slowly made the game inaccessible to folks that have a less-than-3.5-hour allocation of time for their favored sport..
They should have simply made it an 18 second clock with no one on, and a 24 second clock with runners on. That would speed things up just a little, while still allowing some strategy and nuance.
Baseball doesn’t need to speed up “a little”. People don’t want to sit around for 3 or 4 hours when there’s 6 games a week. Make these games 2 hours long like the old days. Look at the nba, 2 hours and 20 minutes. The nba gets it and they’re already cashing in on the benefits
Always love baseball content. Greatness sport in the world.
Scherzer is working this to his advantage. The batter gets one time out. he's ready to pitch and can freeze him if he wants.
Yup. I believe the pitch clock favors the pitcher. Batters are going to hate it.
This aged well lolz. I'm a Mets fan.
Honestly one of the biggest issues with baseball is a lot of people don’t understand the mental aspect. And what the goals are. I think the tv broadcast could do a better job at explaining what the pitcher is trying to do and all the mental games that go along. The avg person thinks it’s just a guy throwing and another guy blindly swinging. If people understood how much goes into a pitch and how much you study hitters. There’s a lot of entertainment value there but you gotta really understand the game to truly appreciate it.
Exactly! It's a psyche game between the pitcher and batter!
No person wants to watch a 3 or and 3 half hour game when they play six days a week. Nba is 2 hours and 25 minutes. They get it. People don’t want to sit around for 3 or 4 hours
I remember couple times standing in the batters box waiting for a pitcher to pitch, while he was playing around with his Rosin bag, taking his hat off, stepping off the mound, clearing his cleats. It's long overdue for pitchers to pitch. They hold up the game more then anything.
Right. Then go watch a hitter like Carlton Fisk (the worst in his time) or Bryce Harper today and tell me it's all on the pitchers.
@@donpietruk1517 Mike Hargrove, "The Human Rain Delay".
Speeding up the game at the expense of higher level play can only ever be a negative change.
The game was so much better when Roger played. Baseball had the LeBrons, Stephs, and Giannis.
I could listen to these guys talk baseball for days
I feel bad for you wanting to listen to this interviewer.
I might be able
To listen to ONE of them
Pitch clock should be 8 seconds from the time the pitcher catches the ball until he throws again
If you have to stay on a BULL for 8 seconds….
He makes some interesting points, but players will adjust accordingly. 15 and 20 seconds is plenty of time to get yourself to pitch. Games were under 3 hours for most of baseball's history, so there's no reason to yell at clouds about the pitch clock.
It's throwing people out on base that I'm concerned about and that takes time and strategy.
correct me if i am wrong but does the pitch clock add more time or does it turn off when the runners are on base?
@@gsy971 20 seconds with men on base, 15 seconds without.
"Pace of play" is a totally overblown issue. As much as people talk about "batters adjusting their batting gloves between every pitch," actual pace of play on the field hasn't changed much over the last few decades. Games are a bit longer than they were a few decades ago, but that is the result of two main factors. 1) Over 10 minutes of commercial time was added between innings since 1984, and 2) during the '80s the use of situational pitching changes started to increase, and has continued over the years. Those extra 10 minutes of commercials and the added time for more pitching changes account for the vast majority of the added length of games since the '70s. When the players are actually on the field playing baseball, the game usually flows along at a perfectly reasonable, natural pace. Baseball is not meant to be played at warp speed at all times.
Through the first games and in spring training 30 minutes is the consistent benchmark game times have been reduced.
this is blatantly false on many levels. there was an average of 4 minutes between balls being put in play last year, the longest in the history of the game. these changes have shaved almost 30 seconds off that.
@@ARMTOAST Wow. What are you going to do with the saved time?
@@alexanderfedderly take a shower. call my mom. eat ice cream. what did they do before when games were this long in the 80s and 70s?
The thing that needs to change is to get rid of that insipid strikezone graphic. Who needs to be told where the strikezone is?
The only issue I have is the limiting of pick offs… I feel like it eliminates that whole aspect of the sport b/c the base runner can lead off as much as he wants if the pitcher throws over once
Too bad. Now the pickoff attempts mean something instead of a way to throw over again again as fans head for the exits
Adam waves his hands around more than a Yellowshirt on the flight deck.
I see it benefitting someone like Verlander. He seemed to like going at a quicker pace.
MLB wouldn't be in this situation if the batters stayed in the batters box and be ready for their job to hit. I hate the banning the shift because if they truly are hitters they would just hit the other way from the infielders
The thing is, if the defense turns Bryce Harper into a guy who tries to hit ground balls to short stop, the shift has won. They wouldn't even bother counter adjusting
@@paulg6274 but he could also hit a double down the opposite side because the shift also affects the outfielder too
@@jerryneil8558 actually outfielders dont shift the same way infielders do. Many hitters hit the ball to the opposite field in the air, just not very often on the ground
@@paulg6274 the shift has been going on since Ted Williams days the only difference is these players nowadays can't hit or refuse to hit a double down the other way because it is HR or nothing
@@jerryneil8558the *only* difference? 😄 what % if AB's were shifted on in Ted Willliams' day? Like 0.1%? Probably less. Shift in 2022 was like 45% iirc. This "back in the day baseball players were better" idea is boomer foke lore.
They should give the amps AR glasses with the strike zone so they can call the right call every time and save some time and fights
Love your passion for baseball Patrick good to hear your perspective Rocket 🚀
Hank Aaron: “Drysdale was tough, you know. If you didn’t hit him, he would hit you.” And: the manager once called for an intentional walk with Drysdale on the mound. He hit the batter because he didn’t want to waste four pitches to do what he could with one. (Of course, you actually had to pitch 4 balls intentionally in those days.) Different times.
Make the clock shorter for no men in scoring position, longer for men in scoring position, get rid of the clock in the 9th.
You either like the game or you don't like the game. People have been complaining about the speed of the game for a long time. Yet still millions love and watch baseball. There is no reason to change the game for the few who don't appreciate the game for what it is.
-Stop the clock after the 7th inning & during playoffs... let the moments breath. Compromise is Always the Right Answer!
One of the best things about baseball is the slower pace
Yep, it’s a thriller, not an action movie.
It’s also why it’s dying
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@@jonny-dp2qr Explain. Even countries that were once baseball hotbeds are dying (Puerto Rico, Panama, Cuba, Nicaragua). Soccer and basketball have pushed baseball off to the side.
3.5 hrs + is just way too long though. I haven't watched an entire reg season game in yrs. 2.5 hrs is a much better pace and won't ruin anything
Most of these pitchers grew up with pitch clocks in college and travel ball. I pitched in college in the 2000’s and we had pitch clocks on every single summer league tournament, travel hall tournaments or college invite tourneys. I’m not sure why it would be an adjustment ?
I’ve never pitched with a pitch clock, ever
Wtf league did you play In. Clocks and ghost runners are for little leaguers.
I played in the semi's in the early 2000s, and had never seen a pitch clock.... where were you playing?
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Damn, Roger really let himself go. Dude should be in the HoF already.
nah.....hes a cheater
the rocket!!! I grew up watching him pitch!
Why would Adumb want to know about this if he didn’t know if it’s been in the game prior?
On the fence with it. Had it my way,old school baseball. No replays either
FYI - the full video link in the description is privated. The real link is at the end
The new rules suck they were implemented to appease people who aren’t true fans
It's a goddamn shame that this guy is not in the Hall of Fame.
He cheated....end of story
@@mikegeee3319 The Hall of Fame is meant as a museum for the best players in the game not as a moral institution. Roger Clemens was dominant and compiled a hell of a career before and after he took steroids. He deserves a spot in the hall. There are many players in the hall that also cheated as a product of their environment since the dawn of the game. What's even crazier is that if he retired in 2000 he would have most likely gotten into the hall much like Gaylord Perry, with an anecdote of how things were "back then". Instead he just happened to stick around long enough to be scapegoated by the same people who turned a blind eye on steroid use for the entire 90s. That's hypocritical.
It's almost like he did it to himself. Do you feel bad for the murderer on death row?
@@bryantkapono420 I didn't realize murder was the same as playing baseball.
@Lou Sassle It's not. Do you feel bad for a hockey player that holds another players stick and then gets a penalty for it?
If he wanted in the HOF then he shouldn't have taken steroids and cheated. Plain and simple. He did it to himself. He made the decision and now he's paying for it. That's just the way life works.
Roger Clemens not understanding how pitching works? He says "Pitchers will become throwers with the pitch clock." Hmmmm....Nolan Ryan pitched without a pitch clock and pitched quickly. So did Warren Spahn, Tom Seaver, and Lefty Grove. And Greg Maddux pitched quickly. All of those pitchers would have comfortably been able to pitch the same way they did in real life if there had been a 20-second pitch clock. So, they were just "throwers?"
The misconception about the pitch clock is that it "changes the game of baseball." It's not a CHANGE...it's a necessary mandate to get the pitcher vs. batter element of the game BACK TO THE PACE IT WAS FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS.
From the 1870s to the 1970s, pitchers pitched without a pitch clock, but they didn't need one because they understood that pitching rhythm is important, and that doesn't mean holding the ball and overthinking every pitch as if it's the seventh game of the World Series.
I shouldn't be surprised that a tone-deaf person like Clemens, who defrauded the public and needed illegal drugs to stay in baseball, doesn't understand the difference between a rule that returns baseball to what it was, and what he says it will be.
Why does anyone actually listen to this joker anyway?
Man I read your comment and it’s pretty long. You wrote all that down and you literally have zero idea what the fuck you’re talking about. It’s so obvious you’re somebody who never played at a high level or has knowledge of the game so why would you think you know more than somebody like roger clemens? This is literally the equivalent of and 8th grader trying to school Einstein or physics. Just stay in your lane sweetheart cause you are freaking clueless
you want to know why someone would ask a top 5 pitcher of all time a question about pitch clocks?
@@tomf5823 You can't read. That's not at all what I said.
Because he's a legend. Just like Pete Rose, Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire etc...
Pitch click is for little leaguers..And explain how replays a commercial breaks aren't the main reason for the game slowing down? I love when people like you say this is bringing back "old style baseball" when we have little league rules like the ghost runner....Sit down.
I have watched a game with a pitch clock and the game moves soooooooooo much faster!!!!!!!!!!
"I thought it was the ball !"
let's hope that pitch clock doesn't get ahold of PEDs and perform at a faster speed
Take your greenies!
I'm thinking with rushing the pitchers you're going to see a lot of home runs !
This is great for the game.
I can throw a ball 180mph.
I've always thought the at bat should belong to the pitcher. Meaning.. once the batter first steps into the batter's box for the first time it's now the pitcher's decision on how or when he throws the ball until the batter is out or gets on base and the at bat is over. if the batter steps out to get his bearings and the pitcher zings one in for a quick strike too friggin bad. Better be ready.
that is why I watch old baseball from the 90s and early 2000s on youtube. like collage football it is totally about money, production and just getting out the product without the soul of it. like everything else in this land the history has gone by the wayside.
How can we make A circle rounder ?
The greatest starting pitcher ever. Hands down without a doubt. A complete joke that he’s not in
Can't tell the difference between a broken bat and the ball though 🤔
Nolan ryan?
OMG Adam , just spit the question out with out all the theatrics.
The psychological aspect of the game has been taken out. This generations attention span is as short as tik tok. People who really love baseball aren't looking at how long the game is. Their actually watching the game. The game within the game.
Most older people don’t understand how this will help the game tremendously by getting younger people more involved. Plenty of young people like baseball but aren’t going to sit down for over 3 hours of a game at home. Many of my friends watch multiple football games during football season and they’ll do the same with baseball now
Next up Barry bonds…. Holt shit Roger Clemens
Enlarging the bases is the change they should be discussing.
Otherwise, forcing disrespectful fools to curtail their silly, grandstanding is a good thing...sad, that it requires establishing a formal rule to bring a-holes into line but what else is new
If they want a faster game, drop the commercials and advertising
America's past time, like America itself, moving toward more rules and less freedom.
You mean living in a society
Odd comparison.
@@Dagger-Deep Not when you realize this channel is a Nazi breeding ground and they will always try and push their failed ideology.
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You sound like my right-wing conspiracy neighbors when I grew up in the south.
Probably because you grew up in the south.
The problem isn't the pace of the game. The problem is MLB's inaccessibility. You can't watch the games unless you have cable or a MLB streaming service. God forbid you live within 4 hours of your team because they'll be blacked out anyway. NFL is on every tv screen. They promote themselves. They let the fans actually watch the games without forking over MORE of their hard earned money. MLB needs to take a look at that and not the length of the games. Look at what Disney has done with the marvel movies. It's the same 3 hour movie with a different title, but people still go watch that. The MLB doesn't value their fans, yet they are surprised the ratings are dropping. Changing the game is only going to drive away the fans that are still watching
The problem isn’t the pace of the game? Lmao yeah that’s you ask any random person on the street about baseball. What’s the first word they say??? BORING. Not a lot of other sports have that horrible reputation which is why mlb was forced to implement the pitch clock
They’ve got ghost runners now, FFS… Baseball is dead.
The game has changed for some time now.
no doubt, recently read they didn't even wear gloves in the early days. was considered weak to put a glove on so nobody did it for a long time. oh the good ol days.
I think roger is wrong in his assessment. He’s talking about how he pitched, how he played the game…but the thing is he’s one of the guys that caused 2.5 or 3 hr games to take an extra half hour. His generation started it. Pitchers will be fine they just have to adjust. That’s what high level athletes do.
i cant wait for the game i love to be timed resulting in a shorter, lesser, easier-to-play product!
if only ALL my favorite things would be cut down, shortened, and simplified!
For old fans that want baseball to go back to the way it was the pitch clock and banning of the shift is literally doing that. Quick games with more chances to show off the defense will make the game so much more exciting than it has for the past 20 years.
well said.
Clocks and ghost runners are for little league..Period...Not surprised this generation likes these absurd rules.
@@DarthGuyver I completely agree with the ghost runner. However after playing for over 20 years myself I can tell you a quicker paced game is much better for everyone including the players!
Pitchers like Ryan, Drysdale and Gibson c;aimed and defended the inside of the plate. Can't do that now....
A short attention span is not a bonus, it should be removed, not encouraged...SMDH...
well we live in reality. games drag on way too long now. baseball is dying if they don't do something to get younger fans interested. eliminating dead time is awesome.
3:00 what’s ironic is kids musical taste is slowing down these days they don’t want high energy fast tempo stuff they like more deliberate vibier slower stuff
The rocket, hated the guy growing up. Hell of a player though.
GOAT
You can play old school baseball with the pitch clock and the elimination of the shift. In fact, that IS old school baseball. The pitch clock will simply make the pitchers and batters stop their dancing and play baseball. I watched a video of the 9th inning of game 7 of the World Series from, I believe, 1968. The ENTIRE 9th inning was done in 15 minutes. That's old school baseball. I also watched a video where the ENTIRE half inning was completed in less time that it took for a reliever to throw his first pitch (2 pickoff attempts at 2nd, another bluff attempt, holding the set resulting in a step out by the batter, etc.) It was incredibly boring. Baseball has been more chess than action and I blame advanced analytics for that. Throw that crap out. It's time to get back to baseball.
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Yeah having a ghost runner is " real baseball"..
@@DarthGuyver real baseball is also not waiting until 2am and 19 innings for a winner
@@DarthGuyver As much as having a DH is 'real baseball'.
The Yankees RUINED Roidger Clemens.
Mike Piazza put him in a pack lmao.
I don't watch baseball anymore! It's not the same game anymore!
the bottom line with the new rule: some hate it. some love it. some dont care. the end.
Do not try to fix something that is not broken. No need to try and get new fans because the real fans haven't left.
These changes to the game will be better in the long run its going to take some getting used to
Watch any superhero movie from the last 10 years and you'll understand why mlb thinks they need to speed the game up.
Surprised he’s not a pitching coach tbh
Blackballed by mlb pretty sure
Clemens is not old school. He is part of the problem of the last 20 years. Baseball may be more watchable with the clock. He is a douchebag but one of the best pitchers of all time
Pretty critical of someone I’m sure you’ve never even met, much less know.
The pitch clock is not baseball at all but, I don't want 3 hour plus ballgames.
Idk you rush a closer who miscalculates cause of a pitch clock and drills someone in the head won’t seem like a good idea
The NFL is vastly more entertaining than the MLB.
I've been enjoying baseball since the 70's. These new rules are going to ruin it.
Actually it is taking baseball back to how it was played in the 70s when 2 hour and 15 minutes games were common.
@@jayseaborg3895 Good point but a lot of the extra time today is commercial breaks. 2.5 hours was typical. So, the players need a pitch clock etc. so they can keep up with the advertising minutes..it's not the same.
why? this will baseball way more like the 70s (not the garbage ghost runner)
@@tomf5823 Because the beauty of baseball is the team sport without having a clock like Futbol-Soccer, American Football and Basketball. Watch what happens....it will ruin the mood of game...not the same.
@@tomf5823 Well ghost runner ain't t going anywhere..Baseball is being changed for people who despise the game.
Is this podcast recorded in a bank vault? Lmao
Baseball was made to be consumed & viewed live.
But in a society that just wants to show up to take selfies and watch their phone, they had to go to a pitch clock.
Roger clearly needs to be in The Hall Of Fame! All these new rules are ruining MLB!
Who cares with Rodger Clemens thinks, he disgraced America's game.
I got 2 Rogers Clemons signed Toronto Blue Jays baseball cards gifted to my dad from his wife while they were at the airport. Whether3he gets in the H.O.F or not it's still something cool to have.
Butterflies are pretty.
@@gregd6706 You ok? Too much to drink tonight?
@@ElJefe1986 No...just making random comments like you dude.
@gregd6706 No, no...thats not it. You're definitely under the influence of drugs
@@ElJefe1986 Nah....just don't make random comments on videos that have NOTHING to do with the actual videos...like butterflies for instance.....had just as much to do with the video as your baseball card comment did....both had NOTHING to do with it.
Maybe the pitch clock needs 2 extra seconds, but batters do some ridiculous dances to get positioned ready to bat and the clock cuts all that nonsense. What we need is electronic home umps calling balls and strikes.
I think cranky pitchers throughing balls at people who are having to much fun is the biggest problem with baseball.