How Did Ronda Rousey’s Concussions Go Unnoticed?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2024
- Chael Sonnen talks Ronda Rousey’s concussions on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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A few years back I’d gotten a concussion on the Rugby pitch only to suffer another bc i played down symptoms and returned too soon (about 5 weeks). Thankfully they were both grade 1. Then 3 weeks later I was driving off campus and got broadsided on my drivers side. I didnt think I’d even hit my head that hard but my buddy said I was out cold for a couple minutes. The successive shots I took were cumulative, and probably the least hardest of them ended up a grade 4. That all happened between the beginning of Feb. and the end of March. I was never someone that dealt with clinical depression nor does anyone in my family. It wasn’t until my birthday around November of that year that the fog and depression started to lift and I even felt remotely like myself. I’d had to take a hiatus from school. I still get a little nervous when I think about how low I got.
I can’t warn any of you younger guys enough, take concussions seriously!!And be patient while standing by your friends who are dealing with head a injury !!!!!
I agree, and to emphasize something you mentioned I'll add this. Any head injury from a concussion to a stroke will ALWAYS then have a period of emotional roller coaster times and depression. Having depression after a head injury happens 100% of the time
Boohoo
@@RonniePTexan Actually it doesn’t. I was on the mx track, fell off in front of another racer and he went over my back and got a bit of air off my helmet as he couldn’t avoid me, I fell right in front of him. I was out for about 2-3minutes and asking the same question, over and over and over for about 6 hours after. Have zero memory of the entire day up to the accident and at least 6-12hours after. Got checked out in emergency and thankfully was all ok apart from the serious concussion. Anyway, just here to let you know I’ve never in my life suffered from any form of depression, not when I had cancer twice and not from this concussion or either of the other 2 I’ve had.
Where did you get this info about 100% of people getting depression after a concussion? Never heard anything like that before and I’m testament to the fact it’s not true at all. I’m very interested to see or read any evidence you have to the contrary.
Obviously everything I mentioned is from what I was told by friends and family as I’ve still no recollection of the days events, 20 or so years later.
Chael makes me want to burn my history degree
Yeah the Romans didn't have any paint
He's right though lol
@@aasimala887he said the Roman in 1500 but byzantin ended in 1453 and that’s pushing it calling them Roman’s
@@bobmorane2082 fair, I meant he's right that most of history is boiled down to story telling and that's where the benefit of history comes in. No one really benefits from knowing the date that this King was born or that Prince died. It's the overall story that's beneficial. It is important to try and stick to the facts as much as possible, but when we have such giant gaps in the historical narrations (especially early narrations like before 1000AD) it's better to focus on the big picture
Even funnier is an MBA….just imagine for a moment a legion of people all who don’t work & many whom have never worked in public or private sector & have never ran a company take $250-$350k from ya to tell you how to engage in business. The people whom have a very small if not nonexistent experience & skill set in the business world. And they’ll have you study ROI of course right? What’s the ROI on that $250k degree? What could you have leveraged that $250k into starting a business or making a different investment besides an MBA?🤔🤔🤔🥶🥶🥶
How did bisping blind eye go unnoticed? Lol
I am sure the UFC officials were aware of it, the second any doctor shined a light in his eyes they either knew or should be fired. The commissions that sanctioned him only care about getting paid, I am sure they had no idea and probably never had anyone look at him.
@@JoePesos bisping said he would swap his fake eye out for his real eye before the doctors checked and then use the fake eye during the fights. thats how he got around it.
The UFC turned a blind eye to Bisping missing his eye
Truth is Bisping has no good eyes
The moment the UFC got Sharabutdin Magomedov all conversations about Bisping's eye, the commisions and these "can you see out of your eye" tests during fights became irrelevant.
Ok, speaking as somsone who is in a PHD program and writing their masters diseration on concussions--most of the objective measures we have to diagnose concussions, up until the last 5 years are, are extremly poor (issues with realibility, but im not going to go into it). Recently, we have seen that with better use of objective measures, the average concussion seems to show symptoms for about 4-5 weeks, even when people say they are fine. For a more severe concussion, it may be closer to 8 weeks or even more before we see objective measures (think reaction time, for instance) return to baseline. If you have a mild concussion, and are retuning to any kind of training without giving yourself at least a months rest--you have not given yourself a chance to fully recover and are risking further injury (including Second Impact Syndrom).
Bro the two best games I ever played at Appalachian State were after being concussed. I never took a game off and this was 2001. The concussion excuse is complete bullshit. She fell down the stairs? Like many domestic disturbance, the women claims to have fallen down stairs. Such a weak copout thing for her so say.
The thing is there is no accurate test for a concussion, it’s just listing off symptoms and then retroactively attributing to the head injury received, so you have situation where you could have a concussion but the symptoms are mild and ignored, or symptoms more severe and still ignored and not reported, a lot of athletes aren’t going to report crap for fear of not being able to compete.
"no idea what the romans were doing in the year 1500" hilariously underrated comment
To be fair, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for her to have a sustained track record of being concussed when judokas are dumping each other on their heads repeatedly. It's like how wrestlers get concussed from accidental headbutts or from being dumped headfirst on the mat. In terms of diagnosing concussions, the medical community has only been taking brain trauma seriously after seeing the implications of CTE in college/NFL athletes. Guys were taking chair shots to the head in '90s pro wrestling when people didn't understand how damaging it was.
Regardless even if that were true, it's not why she got her ass whipped.
Chael teaching history to a history teacher is such a Chael Sonnen thing.
How did her concussions go unnoticed??? Dude... we saw holmes and nunes literary concuss her. Nothing went unnoticed chael.
He was referring to the concussions she had before she was signed to the ufc
You need more question marks to really illustrate your question in the most questiony way.
She literally said she was concussed in her Olympic career not just her late mma career
You didn’t know about it till you read about it this past week.
You don't know how to listen. And it's Holm. Jesus Christ. I'ts not Holmes. It's never been Holmes. It's Holly Holm. It's a very easy name.
Well tell me who DB Cooper was.
Chaels great uncle 👍
I think I actually understood what Uncle Chael was talking about today!
😂
Roman scribes once wrote about cumulative head trauma.
Underrated comment!
I’m second here. Only because Chael is always first
Rhonda tapped
Just like Tito 👍🏻
Ronda has never tapped. Nunes & Holly have though. 😘😘
@@RainReignsX i didn't understand your dunce logic. They both beat the brakes off her
"I have an issue with concussions... so I'm going to perform in pro wrestling where they get more injuries" 🤣
When Nunes pounced on Ronda, I almost called PETA.
😂😂😂
What a strange comment.
History is just storytelling. There’s no proof Chael was undefeated and undisputed champion of the world.
But he was.
Years of Judo throws can definitely earn you some concussions.
So does boxing which is a million times worse and Holm has fought while concussed. No excuses. Rousey was not concussed. She is lying. if she makes a claim like that then she needs to prove it. Until then, she will be rightfully seen as not having a concussion.
I love story time with Uncle Chael.
By far one of the most important episodes.
THATS RIGHT, history is just stories, Preach unc 🗣️
Good to see you're staying hydrated
She lying to rewrite her legacy😂
Olympic judo is tough af but the first thing they teach you is to roll safely when you get dropped on your head.
That's the literally the first drill you do every single day for 8-10 years before they let you in anywhere near the Olympics.
She may have been hungover more times than not😂
Never tried to release a new book and have to come up with new attention grabbing topics I see.
People get concussed all the time in Judo. Man, the comments section is full of door knobs.
I think what Ronda is alluding to is known as Post-Concussive syndrome. She likely had some form of concussion in her judo career and didn’t report symptoms, and her symptoms were likely “hide-able” from experts. She then proceeded to compete without proper treatment for a long time and essentially put her brain’s capacity to handle trauma at a deficit - let alone she likely had neurological deficits that were untraceable to the naked eye, but would have been caught during proper neurological baseline and post-injury testing. Concussion treatment and education and treatment protocols have made MASSIVE strides within competitive athletics, BUT not while Ronda was competing - UFC included.
Concussion protocol has been around since before Rhonda started fighting. Not before her Judo career obviously, amateur athletes are notoriously ignored healthwize. Professionals are not. NHL had early concussion protocol since the 90’s.
She did not have a concussion. If she did, then all the people she fought have had concussions a million times worse. She is a liar. We need to stop legitimizing her claims until she provides some proof which she won't.
I never forget a lesson from a history professor. "Always remember history is ultimately just His Story... nothing else."
And as some one who lived in Los Feliz... I can believe her team would send her in to the ring fully knowing her concussion history.
Football, rugby, mma, judo, wrestling, any physical activity where your head moves around alot can give you life changing cte. The is the sad reality of our biology.
Some of the best discussions in high school came from my history teachers. Ok, Great...
Ignoring something is not the same thing as not noticing, Unc.
Need the song outtros back
Has i kid i probably had concussion on a weekly base. We played rough and threw bricks and large stones at each other and i often had my head split open by this and yet never went to the doctors or hospital, often fell a sleep on the couch with a towel on my head to stem the bleeding. These days you get a tap on your head and they go OTT.
And we can tell by your spelling and grammar.
You can say the same thing about athletes in any sport. The athletes don't want to admit that something is wrong and tend to keep it to themselves so they don't get benched or whatever else.
Smart man 💯
I was also very surprised when I heared about that. Makes no sense that the WWE would sign her
She said that she hide it because she knew they wouldn’t hire her
The smile that went across my face when Chael mentioned the lie of WMD. Maybe he does know what’s really going on here…
I respect it
3:00 - As much as Rousey is trained on how to breakfall from different positions in Judo, you’d think she knew how to avoid getting concussed.
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I only have an associates from a meh trade school, but something’s not right here.
I think her coach was concussed when he let stand up vs Holy and not try to take her down.
I love watching a Chael video and zoning out for a minute and the next thing I know he’s talking about Spaniards on a ship in the 1600’s. Wait - what’s this about again?
If old Chael says there was no paint in the year 1500, you might as well get it tattooed 🖌️👨🏽🎨
I hate to say it, but I think this is the story she tells herself so that she feels less humiliated by her last two showings. "If I hadn't suffered all of these concussions I would have never lost"😢
Shoulda had better head movement, Edmund Terverdyan redeemed.
Common Cheal. You're right we're taught a narrative every time. However, there is a lot of it. You can compare and contrast and apply human nature to understand history. You can understand who wrote it when it was recorded, etc. Then, concerning history you lived through, you have all the bits and pieces you paid attention to. We call it wisdom.
So, then he was wrong. He said there wasn't anything to tell us what the Romans were like, and that's not true. We don't need wisdom to understand architecture, paintings, drawings, anthropology, etc. I'm so confused by what you are agreeing to lmao
How to verify history: Check what the "winners" wrote about a batlle and what the "losers" wrote about that same battle and go from there etc... There are even old books with roman war strategies the Vikings took adapted.. You can read what the English write about the Vikings and what the Vikings said about the English
and it's very clear who feared who.. History and story telling is not the same
His story
Fighter has history of concussions... She got beat by someone with over 30 boxing matches, a life time of training in boxing, who had already been KO'd in boxing, Holy Holm... But Ronda had concussions...
I think it was Lee Harvey Oswald
No
how many times have I watched rousey get koed! I have lost count. Meditative.
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If Bisping fought with one eye for about 3 fights, and get AWAY with it, and noone noticing then yeah, fighters can fight with concussions and after, and they know it, they just dont care. They are there for the money, not the safety. The Bisping thing should have triggered a MASSIVE lawsuit against these entities ¨protecting ¨ fighters but it didnt. Sadly very few people actually care, and thats why they get away with it.
Not a Ronda fan and she seems massively delusional but I greatly agree with the point that you made. After people found out that bisping fought with one eye, there should had been a big investigation in the safety of the MMA medical fitness field to see how that went unnoticed and how other fighters can beach the safety system too.
"We don't know what the Roman's did in tbe year 1500"😂
METATRON need to drop some knowledge on uncle Chael…
She was so concussed that she left the UFC to go join the WWE the "head capital of concussions". Makes sense.
Who?
If only the drink was sloshing and pouring out Jocko juice as he waived the empty can around. It would be worth it. I often forget I am holding my drink and spill it. When I get reeally drunk, the drink just slips out of my hand. I would get home from the bar and realize I was still holding the pint glass... and add it to the collection.
Every historian knows the only objectively and universally true historical fact is that Chael P. has the biggest arms in West Linn.
For the same reasons the government takes taxes to “fix the roads” and yet in some cities the only way pot holes get filled is when frustrated citizens go out and fill themselves after several instances of damage to their vehicle
She could still do great if she would change gyms. Go to Jackson's or Tristar.
All I know is Chael isn't just undefeated, he never lost a round.
I have a similarity with this guy. We talk to ourselves loudly. He just gets paid for it.
The whole I quit because of concussions and cte is such a cop out from her.
Troy Aikman documentary... 12
Yes Chael I’ll stop paying my taxes
Please Bisping fought with 1 eye. I feel like hiding a concusion is easier if you want to LIE to the Dr's than being blind in 1 eye.
She might have had concussions but that’s not why she lost her last two fights I’m sure Holly Holm had bigger concussions she got KOd 3 times one time very brutally before she KOd Ronda rousey
All her fights before holly were round 1 submissions. Literally took no damage
Miesha tate 3rd round submission!!!
@@El_pedro81 thanks for the 1 example that proves me wrong lol
@@lewisparkinson9990 it was in no way in a bad meaning!!!
Haha chael really said Judo is a soft sport because its on a mat? Well If you get slammed on your head im sure you can get concussed, not sure how often that happens in Judo though
As a history teacher, I don’t appreciate you EXPOSING THE BUSINESS!!
Based Sonnen take on History. Be careful when talking about ww2 though or you might end up in a car crash.
tito tapped
Yes u can real sports covered it
You want to see what multiple concussions can do to a person? Watch former NY Jet Al Toon's retirement press conference. Not good.
Chael!
My these dogs are dangerous and,in fact, my hands are so dangerous that if i move to suddenly and people get scared i could face all kinds of legal problems and I go to register my hands and it is going to be 100.00 and I can't believe it because I am fallowing the law to protect myself! I will be you in a no holds barred no rules battle to the death. Yes I'm talking a real-life kumete and if i win you pay to have my hands registered.
The same way Bisping fought with one eye and no one knew!!!!
The other one new.
Knew*
People probably had a hard time focusing because they were starring at her mole.
Ronda quit because she saw the talent was getting better and her one trick style wasn't going to cut it anymore... my opinion of course 😁
Ok she was concussed soooo many times. Well first THAT just isn't good, second was she, did she REPORT any? Was she reporting and ignored? Nobody even bothered to look at her? She not got a doctor? That " 3 time" and you're out yeah sounds unfair but how many? Concussions are ACCUMULATIVE from my understanding. To all you athletes , yes us savage fans want to see you beat the crap out of each other in...whatever match buuutttt NOBODY wants to see you end up like Ali and others. You give so much IN "the ring" . You deserve YOU time to enjoy...in my opinion, so anything that HELPS that happen, I'm for.
those jocko drinks are garbage-water 😂
Cuz she didnt tell anyone
Ronda was a real fighter. At some point she wasn't good enough. But she is a legend and she deserves more respect
we can tell alot from the past through science uncle, come on.
Hopefully he doesn’t have any lingering effects
Is she going to sue ufc now? Setting it up with her book?
There was no concussion. She makes a claim like that - she needs to prove it.
Neurofeedback therapy can reverse brain damage caused by concussions.
Ronda got smacked and realized she wasn’t actually like that, sadly that was Holmes and Nunes 😂 and it was obvious she was very different
@@jermainewright2556 and that’s being a sore loser
Rhonda concussion issues come from a ufc trans fighter formally known as Arnold (Amanda Nunes )
She hid that shit better than Chael hides needle marks. A true professional athlete. It was always obvious but we are good at pretending everything “is normal”.
I miss Ronda. I’m definitely going to buy her book. Thanks for the plug Chael.
Based Chael on Iraq
But we do know who robbed that plane 😉
No evidence for historical past. Got it.
"How Did Ronda Rousey’s Concussions Go Unnoticed?"
Well she has girl brains so I'm sure folks figured it was normal.
My goodness, Get some glasses that Fit!!! You've pushed them up over 15 times by half way thru your video!!!
...24 hours monitoring ...no sleep ...pupil dilation(important symptom) ...pupils dilated ...one small/one large ....varying pupil dilation
The movie, Concussion, came out in 2015, not 2006. 😂
You misunderstood. He wasn't saying the movie came out then, he was talking about the events of the doctor being blackballed by the NFL in real life. As far as I understand lol
Rhonda is always making excuses, her coaches and the press pumped her head up, we all watched when it happened, I get it Rhonda is pretty blah blah, so if I cant trust the words of historian's, then why would I believe Rhonda, who ducked every interview after her first loss & retired after her second loss. She even waited a decade, just to claim her losses wasn't her fault, & she is calling herself the 🐐 but refuses to back up those statments in the octogon. I would love to see a UFC panel wtih Rhonda, Holly, Amanda, & Chris Cyborg, I guarantee Rhonda wouldn't be so cocky, & if she was, she would be reminde that out of the 4 of them, she is the only one to retire because of how bad she was beaten. Rhonda got exposed for bullying her way through a new division that was still growing & it out grew her super fast.(Facts)
Idt her concussions went unnoticed. Her bullshit definitely is though.
Excuses yrs later only diminish her accomplishments.
How is she getting passed?? Easy cause she makes to much money and star power for them to cancel her fight attempts
Dayum just bots today 😮
Chael defeated by another persons concussion
April fools (: