I'm only 4:45 in, but destiny joined and the first thing I heard was "let me respond now, cause destiny just joined and is gonna dunk on somebody" xD Destiny really is that Anime antagonist who appears to beat up the MC, who later turns out to be an antagonist for good reasons. ahaha
@@jstawch2608 i think it's more to do with how his takes are HIS takes which gives him the confidence to debate anyone with endless responses and reason but most of the people he joins in on are debating for their group so their knowledge on the debate is limited and they cant go into any moral depth or give any unique insight, which they probably know on some level and it makes them not want to engage
Hey destiny, whether you read this or not doesn’t matter. I just wanted to say that I wasn’t interested in politics for two years because I could find anyone smart to listen to. I watched a video about a guy who went down the trump rabbit hole, and I related to that video because I too fell into conservatism, almost the same exact way. Anyway, in his video he said watching you debate Jon Tron helped him change his side. I watched that and quickly started watching through your videos. I watched videos relevant to my conservative period. I was so wrong and no one was there to show me. I don’t agree with everything you say, but it’s a hard thing to do. It’s comforting that you are not affiliated with a party because it shows me that you aren’t influenced by either party. I don’t believe in party systems, but nowadays it’s hard to find any middle ground. So thank you destiny for inspiring me to do my own research, and to pay attention again. You’re new fan, Hunter.
Lol its so weird because this is exactly what happened to me aswell, its crazy how much influence online creators have on the future of politics, especially destiny
The noises that game was making (growling and etc) really puzzled me until I noticed Destiny was playing a game (I had the video in the background), for a while I was like who the hell is growling.
This guy doesn't even realise he admitted to being corrupt. He gave the example of 'her' letting her foot hit the gas to run him over, as a point to prove why you don't report corrupt behaviour, because it could turn out to bite you. Without realising thats EXACTLY what corruption is, lmao I hope he's memeing
@@Xontor23 You are using an example of response to the extreme to justify an initial that is very non critical and claiming it all as equal to the extreme. All of which, if his intention was to not be corrupt, results in the extreme in the first place. And using that as proof of corruption. Aka He deserves to be attacked if he's not corrupt and is corrupt for not trying to paint a target on his back, because there isn't a third party to report to. Reply if I'm wrong. Sounds like your idea of corruption is b&w.
@@Xontor23 He said she'd just have to take her foot off the gas a little to potentially let him die if he needed backup. I don't even like the guy but you can't call him corrupt for being aware of systemic issues within law enforcement.
@@furyberserk "He deserves to be attacked if he's not corrupt" Attacked by who? His coleagues? Who have no reason to attack him because he doesn't report it, so it's not them I assume? If you mean attacked by comments online, I don't feel he should be, maybe you feel I am attacking him? "and is corrupt for not trying to paint a target on his back" If I'm not mistaken, the part of the conversation we're quoting is where the police guy defends the allegations of him being a corrupt police officer. This is the definition of corrupt "having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.". I don't care that he doesn't report the woman he is talking about, honestly. I understand why he doesn't, I would do the same if I was him. But to claim he isn't corrupt, lmao yeah right. "sounds like your idea of corruption is b&w" I'm confused by what you mean with b&w, could you please elaborate? Also, the first part of your response is really confusing, I'm not that smart so I'm glad you put the aka in, appreciated xD
@@AnimeFan9833 I can call him corrupt for doing it the way he does it. Because that's the difinition of corruption. I don't blame the dude and I can honestly say I'd do the same if I was in his situation. But you can't claim do not be corrupt when he gave textbook examples of corruption. Maybe it just proves how toxic the system is? Also, claiming something to be corrupt doesn't make it the worst thing in existence, corruption is part of balance, sometimes it's needed, sometimes it's best to get rid of to make way for a new evil, but it's never good to keep the same one for too long, or our graves will be too deep, lmao
Lol not the entire time but when he made the point about body cameras (which was true) it was mad cringe how he added they prevent civilians from threatening to kill cops. He does drop some based takes for a former cop tho.
Pretty sure the gun on their waist would be a much bigger deterrent to talking shit but I know it happens sometimes. Some body cams are pretty discrete too and civilians might not even be aware they're being recorded. I honestly don't think they deter incidents like that but I still like them. Just not one of the pros I would list
@@brandonislemons disagreed. People would for sure act better for evidence in court. Someone acts up, very easy to point out they're being recorded, much more favorable than waving a gun as well
I feel like a lot of people in this comment section are totally missing the point of this discussion and falling for the argumentative tactic being used by the Anti-Police Accountability person in this conversation (Dooby). This is a discussion about how prevalent Police misconduct is, and what would be effective measures to curb it. CounterPoints brings up, as anecdotal evidence that there is a systemic issue that he felt pressure to not report bad behavior on the part of colleagues. I think that if you asked him, he would say that this is a bad thing that he did, but that he felt it was his best option at the time. He wants to use this to make a broad point about the need for reform that would make us less reliant on cops "making the right choice" by making the moral choice easier to make. Meanwhile, Dooby, (who, let's remember, is arguing that there is no evidence of a systemic problem in policing) hears this, and sees it as a huge opportunity to score points against CounterPoints' character and simultaneously reinforce the idea that the only issue is "a few bad apples". He wants us to think CounterPoints is just one of these bad apples, rather than a normal person making the decision most people would make in the scenario. This is not a good argument, and it doesn't line up with reality. The system needs to be changed so that cops can make good decisions without suffering hits to their own careers or doing disproportionate harm to colleagues.
You love to see it when two parties squabbling without understanding eachother are mediated so quickly and effectively by someone smart with an outside perspective.
I totally agree, however doesn't he say that he doesn't report it up his chain of command and piss off some officers because they could literally not back him up in life or death situations? So idk if he advocates for 3rd party investigators later in this panel yet but that appears to be his goal?
@@erikfreeman45 i guess but where is the line? Would he ignore an officer ra***** a child? If not, i'd like to know the exact point his POTENTIAL self preservation out weigh his moral convictions because he's walking around with a gun and badge
I would want to know too but that would probably be enough to get the perpetrator reviled by the fellow cops. Anyway, I'm still only thirty minutes in but just in case you may not have noticed the cop in the mid right panel who wishes he could report the number padding is not the same guy that doesn't have a webcam and seems to be against third party data collection. So I wish the cop in the mid right had the courage to report his problematic coworker but yeah he seems more afraid than also corrupt imho
This immediately gave me a migraine. I only watched 5 minutes but this felt like a weird fever dream. I really don’t understand the point of doing these online panels with so many people, it never works. Its unlistenable.
Let's get this out there because no one thinks of this: what happens to rats in prison? Now what happens to rats in the police force? This is why officers can't always speak up. It isn't always joe blows fault everyone around him is corrupt.
stupid comment by a stupid person. "That doctor has saved countless lives but he stole a snickers. lets end this mans career" was the whole point the guy was making.
@@koyichan7829 the problem isnt that the doc is stealing, it's that he cant save lives, and therefore is a shitty doc, Like how a cop who doesnt stop crime is a shitty cop
LSD doesn't increase your strength and doesn't increase violent outbursts. The only way that 5 police officers would be on the scene is if they were showing signs of violence. It probably means that "your friend" has problems not relating to LSD whatsoever. I don't think that you witnessed the event and are just believing what you heard w/o skepticism. Or you are leaving quite a bit out of the story. No matter what It was a terrible point. LSD is not a drug widely used and has even a smaller chance of leading to violent outbursts requiring any police involvement. Bringing up something that has such a minute chance of occurring is not relevant.
@@Onthebrink5 truly bad trips give u crazy adrenaline u can think your dying or going crazy and that does give u strength trips like that rare rare but they do happen
In Brazil we have a military justice, is pretty useless and unless they did something really horrible or obviously bad. Is usually used to get revenge on people who denouces crimes in the corporation more than it is used to punish the ones who commited.
When you find out someone on any job is doing something they ought not to do, it’s not your job to judge them. It’s your job to report the behavior to a superior and let them handle it. Otherwise you’re complicit in their behavior and what’s probably worse is that you are displaying contempt for the leadership you take your orders from.
this is great until you actually do it i work retail and i had a manager that was singling me out for extra work and extra punishment- at first i thought i was just misreading it all and didnt see it for other people, because you always feel it more when it happens to you. then i had a couple coworkers come to me and tell me they’ve seen it, it does just happen to me, and it needs to be reported. i went to our store manager, who said she would talk to her about it. i got called out in the alley to talk to the both of them, where they told me it was never happening, i was just wrong about all of it, and when i pointed out that multiple people have told me to bring it up, they immediately asked for names “because this hasn’t been happening and they need to straighten it out” THIS IS AT A RETAIL JOB WHERE WE DON’T DEPEND ON OUR COWORKERS TO SAVE OUR LIVES (coronavirus not withstanding)
Problem with UCMJ. It allows for the same issue now as there is in Law Enforcement. It is an entity inside the military meant to judge the military. Real world consequence is that I have a SNCO that rapes one of his airman, and only spends 6 months in prison. This would end up being a problem within a UCMLE system. Cop assaults a person in custody, and would receive a sentencing that would not even remotely resemble justice, and instead we would've created a system that coddles to the current system even more with less recourse by civilians.
Cntrpnts: “Police are not corrupt, and to prove this, here are 12 personal examples about how I let a cop get away with something because if I report them stealing a candy bar they might let me get murdered.”
Hes so heated and personally invested that its hard to even know what point he's trying to make. I mean technically he's making the far left argument that these are irreconcilable systemic issues that can only be fixed by extreme reform but he's framing it as "you don't know what its like on the inside, man!" I think thats why this debate is kind of confusing to me because it sometimes feels like multiple people are arguing the same point very angrily at each other
@@ataridc I think he’s been so gaslit he can’t even tell he’s doing it to himself. PERSONALLY I got all the perspective on the police from a family member who is police (now works in internal affairs). American police are disturbingly cult like
@@GuyCN Police aren't taking bribes from narcos and executing people and throwing them in the Everglades. They ARE padding stats and covering for each other's brutality. Did I ever say the phrase "police are not corrupt" in that entire debate?
@@Counterpoints sorry, didn’t think this comment would reach the myth himself. TBH, I’m off work for the holidays, so I’m not thinking hard, don’t plan to, and I also don’t care about proving a point to you. But since you might read this I just want you to know that your attempts and justifying police behavior from what I’ve seen has somehow further damaged my perceptions of the police. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
OK this cop guy is literally admiting that the thin blue line exists. What's funny is he gives examples that are minor but his mentality is also used in major examples. The traffic example is bad because the same is often never given to citizens. Yall have a motto that yall don't make the laws but yall will enforce them. So why would the police not be held to that standard. If the officer is lying about traffic stops that should be reported. Who cares if it ruins their lives. Yall are literally the people who decide whether or not people go to jail or go home. I've literally had the drug Hound called in a traffic stop because I had a swisher sweat rapper in my car. He also lied and said it smelled like week. I smoke cigarettes I do smoke weed but I use it to fall asleep so I never would smoke it in my car. The funny thing after a hour and a half. He apologized and said and I qoute. "I confused Newport smoke with weed smoke" but wonder if he was the type of officer who would plant evidence. I'm fucked. That mentally is bad for a police officer to have. I like the idea of a third party.
I seem to routinely forget, then remember, that I've tried to watch this debate before and cannot get through it. All the motivated reasoning (and believing Pisco knows what he's talking about) completely stops the debate from going anywhere useful, because so many of the premises are wrong to begin with. It's unfortunate.
The problem with what conorpoints said is if he really couldn’t trust this cop to help him if he was in trouble he needs to speak up. The end. I don’t think it makes him a bad cop, I just think it makes him irresponsible. He could be potentially putting himself and other colleagues at risk.
State budgets don't pay for most lawsuits, cops and cities have INSURANCE POLICIES that pay out. The only time a cop is held personally liable and their immunity is withheld is when he violates a civil liberty.
Like the video if you think Destiny should go back onto debate panels...
So he can leave for 2 hours again?
No
Why did he stop going on them?
Only if Vaush does as well. >=]
August here in cahots with Dan to bring misery upon Steven. Appreciate it ❤️❤️❤️
Burning building:
Destiny: shall I join?
He was charging up his ki you gotta give him time
@@Ben-pk7yn Lol fr
I can't tell who's talking
Same, I don't think Dewbie was even on cam?
It's part of the experience
Just assume pasty bearded white guy and you're probably right
The girl is a masterful ventriloquist.
@@ataridc LMFAO
Destiny joined this debate like Sephiroth joined Smash
Lmfao
Destiny: Now I shall give this panel despair.
@@alexeonbel4304 you beat me to it 😂
@@Forgottendream17 You had been waiting for this moment....
I'm sorry.
@@alexeonbel4304 Sort of funny how *the* Omni-Liberal is represented by the character that gets slapped by Omni-Slash.
Is there someone on the panel without a camera because I’m hearing an extra voice and I’m confused af because I didn’t clean my room
Yeah at least one person doesnt have a webcam
Yes, the brainlet is the one without a cam
yea doobie is pretty mald
I was super confused about who Doobie was because they're not on cam :/
For the first few minutes of the video I thought the guy yelling at Doobie was the troll... and then Destiny cleared everything up for me 😂😂😂
Who is talking? Where am I?
First time ? (Also love your content. You are a big inspiration)
I read that "Obese to Obese" and was confused too
I better see you in the comments on EVERY video lad.
Yes.
WHERE IS REZNOV ?
We need Dylan Burns as moderator or these types of debates are unwatchable
Dylan is great at moderation, muting, keeping on topic, keeping in light hearted, keeping his bias out of it.
@@brandonden795 the true centrist (plus the humour)
@@brandonden795 and having gorgeous hair
@@francisxavier8374 very true my man ;)
Thanks!
How can I watch this without knowing if a turle approves this debate or not?
I miss the Sandwich Guy
@@user-wu1us1yh3n I miss Joseph the cringe guy
As long as it isn't justin y
A human guy approves of this debate if that helps you
@@ataridc honestly man I always ragged on him but I miss him too now, I wonder where he went
I'm only 4:45 in, but destiny joined and the first thing I heard was "let me respond now, cause destiny just joined and is gonna dunk on somebody" xD
Destiny really is that Anime antagonist who appears to beat up the MC, who later turns out to be an antagonist for good reasons. ahaha
I think this is the best depiction of Destiny I’ve ever read.
OMEGALUL
@@AngeloGreene the dude didn't even say anything about the word protagonist 👁👄👁
@@AngeloGreene i guess u meant antagonist which means the villian of an anime
@@adamtobolat3225 u have a stroke there, buddy?
Get ready for these soros bucks Destiny
Yo btw how much did you guys get? I was sent 460$ and a ":*" message.
@@artemiygulyaev2280 I got a small sum of one million Soros dollars
You guys are getting paid?.jpg
Who’s soros? And what are bucks?
@@smiley__kylee :)
destiny gets paid too much respect when he joins it dilutes the rage
Thats because these people know he's typically more informed than they are and if they debate him they will likely lose and look silly.
His aura is simply too powerful
@@jstawch2608 i think it's more to do with how his takes are HIS takes which gives him the confidence to debate anyone with endless responses and reason but most of the people he joins in on are debating for their group so their knowledge on the debate is limited and they cant go into any moral depth or give any unique insight, which they probably know on some level and it makes them not want to engage
@@jamesmatthews7318 Let me summarize your post: *SLURRRrrrrRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrPP*
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 edgy
Destiny must be so fed up of people mentioning vaush every time he’s on a show
Vaush is Destiny’s son, of course he will always be mentioned.
You can see that Vaush is in dgg chat.
The spectre of Vaush haunted this place.
Vaush and Destiny's fates are eternally intertwined.
@@PacifistBetaFish it’s some anime rival shit lol.
This heated debate lured me to click early.
World War 3:
Destiny: “Shall I join in?”
Hey destiny,
whether you read this or not doesn’t matter. I just wanted to say that I wasn’t interested in politics for two years because I could find anyone smart to listen to. I watched a video about a guy who went down the trump rabbit hole, and I related to that video because I too fell into conservatism, almost the same exact way. Anyway, in his video he said watching you debate Jon Tron helped him change his side. I watched that and quickly started watching through your videos. I watched videos relevant to my conservative period. I was so wrong and no one was there to show me. I don’t agree with everything you say, but it’s a hard thing to do. It’s comforting that you are not affiliated with a party because it shows me that you aren’t influenced by either party. I don’t believe in party systems, but nowadays it’s hard to find any middle ground. So thank you destiny for inspiring me to do my own research, and to pay attention again.
You’re new fan,
Hunter.
Alright dude what the fuck, my name is Hunter, and you almost perfectly described me getting into watching destiny content. My brother
Lol its so weird because this is exactly what happened to me aswell, its crazy how much influence online creators have on the future of politics, especially destiny
@@YoHouseOnFya I don’t believe you. That’s too crazy.
@@huntermushero9362 on my entire life I swear
Well this is nice to see :D
Their points of view are so far apart they can't even see each other.
lmao why are their TWO angles of Destiny?! Feels like he's twin tag teaming or something
she cant escape the dark triad
The noises that game was making (growling and etc) really puzzled me until I noticed Destiny was playing a game (I had the video in the background), for a while I was like who the hell is growling.
Why did my favorite Minecraft streamer go on this debate?
THE ANA ARC DOESNT END
Did she say a single thing during this hour convo?
@@XxFarrinxXv2 thats my question also
@@CaptainAnonymous agreed lol
@@griggerykimothy4865 no, she said it in their one on one
Just so you know, this is the same cop that quoted the Inquisition from WH 40k and presented it as an actual argument; "Innocence proves nothing."
We all know the real motto of the cops is "blood for the blood god"
“Guilty of wasting our time.”
@@ataridc I feel like thats everyones motto
"All cops is equal, but some cops are more equal dan uvvas"
- LA Waaagh c.2019
Holy shit.
Lol nicc constant raising his hand to speak instead of just interjecting into the conversation was hilarious throughout
um there's some sort of panel covering up the minecraft gameplay, editor??
"something so minor as lying because you're lazy".....
This guy doesn't even realise he admitted to being corrupt. He gave the example of 'her' letting her foot hit the gas to run him over, as a point to prove why you don't report corrupt behaviour, because it could turn out to bite you. Without realising thats EXACTLY what corruption is, lmao I hope he's memeing
@@Xontor23
You are using an example of response to the extreme to justify an initial that is very non critical and claiming it all as equal to the extreme. All of which, if his intention was to not be corrupt, results in the extreme in the first place. And using that as proof of corruption.
Aka
He deserves to be attacked if he's not corrupt and is corrupt for not trying to paint a target on his back, because there isn't a third party to report to. Reply if I'm wrong. Sounds like your idea of corruption is b&w.
@@Xontor23 He said she'd just have to take her foot off the gas a little to potentially let him die if he needed backup. I don't even like the guy but you can't call him corrupt for being aware of systemic issues within law enforcement.
@@furyberserk "He deserves to be attacked if he's not corrupt" Attacked by who? His coleagues? Who have no reason to attack him because he doesn't report it, so it's not them I assume?
If you mean attacked by comments online, I don't feel he should be, maybe you feel I am attacking him?
"and is corrupt for not trying to paint a target on his back" If I'm not mistaken, the part of the conversation we're quoting is where the police guy defends the allegations of him being a corrupt police officer. This is the definition of corrupt "having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.". I don't care that he doesn't report the woman he is talking about, honestly. I understand why he doesn't, I would do the same if I was him. But to claim he isn't corrupt, lmao yeah right.
"sounds like your idea of corruption is b&w" I'm confused by what you mean with b&w, could you please elaborate?
Also, the first part of your response is really confusing, I'm not that smart so I'm glad you put the aka in, appreciated xD
@@AnimeFan9833 I can call him corrupt for doing it the way he does it. Because that's the difinition of corruption. I don't blame the dude and I can honestly say I'd do the same if I was in his situation. But you can't claim do not be corrupt when he gave textbook examples of corruption. Maybe it just proves how toxic the system is?
Also, claiming something to be corrupt doesn't make it the worst thing in existence, corruption is part of balance, sometimes it's needed, sometimes it's best to get rid of to make way for a new evil, but it's never good to keep the same one for too long, or our graves will be too deep, lmao
Props to counterpoints for saying disagreeable stuff but also not being entirely cringe the whole panel
Lol not the entire time but when he made the point about body cameras (which was true) it was mad cringe how he added they prevent civilians from threatening to kill cops. He does drop some based takes for a former cop tho.
@@brandonislemons are you saying it doesn't prevent civilians from shitting on cops?
Pretty sure the gun on their waist would be a much bigger deterrent to talking shit but I know it happens sometimes. Some body cams are pretty discrete too and civilians might not even be aware they're being recorded. I honestly don't think they deter incidents like that but I still like them. Just not one of the pros I would list
@@brandonislemons disagreed. People would for sure act better for evidence in court. Someone acts up, very easy to point out they're being recorded, much more favorable than waving a gun as well
@@shadyflakes6979disagreed
genuinely didn't realise this video just came out. it took seeing the comments with "8 minutes ago" for me to notice
4:15 the reaction BadNicc and PrimeCayes have when destiny joins is Amazin.
I was hyped as fuck
BadNicc seems based, I’ve seen him talk to Ana
we just gonna ignore jon snow in the top left
Well he doesn't know anything so I see why you don't hear from him
He's waiting for his QUEEN right below to speak first because she is "MY QUEEEN"
I feel like a lot of people in this comment section are totally missing the point of this discussion and falling for the argumentative tactic being used by the Anti-Police Accountability person in this conversation (Dooby).
This is a discussion about how prevalent Police misconduct is, and what would be effective measures to curb it.
CounterPoints brings up, as anecdotal evidence that there is a systemic issue that he felt pressure to not report bad behavior on the part of colleagues. I think that if you asked him, he would say that this is a bad thing that he did, but that he felt it was his best option at the time. He wants to use this to make a broad point about the need for reform that would make us less reliant on cops "making the right choice" by making the moral choice easier to make.
Meanwhile, Dooby, (who, let's remember, is arguing that there is no evidence of a systemic problem in policing) hears this, and sees it as a huge opportunity to score points against CounterPoints' character and simultaneously reinforce the idea that the only issue is "a few bad apples". He wants us to think CounterPoints is just one of these bad apples, rather than a normal person making the decision most people would make in the scenario. This is not a good argument, and it doesn't line up with reality. The system needs to be changed so that cops can make good decisions without suffering hits to their own careers or doing disproportionate harm to colleagues.
Brings me back to the good old days when we didn't know Ana was insane.
Good times.
4:42
Her saying hi to him in that tone screams crazy red flag now because of the whole situation. Oh, how crazy seeps into whomever it chooses.
@@fireclaw2 I cringed irl
@Won Dilliams I'm glad I'm not the only one here
@Won Dilliams I've watched this debate twice and just noticed who was here the entire time
im new here, what did she do?
Ana was probably staring longingly at Destiny’s screen the entire time
What was dubie banned for? Also i thought dubie was more chill than this
Vids much better without the long intro. nice job.
You love to see it when two parties squabbling without understanding eachother are mediated so quickly and effectively by someone smart with an outside perspective.
How could that guy say he's not corrupt, when he's saying he ignored currupt things so his coworker wouldn't get fired.
I totally agree, however doesn't he say that he doesn't report it up his chain of command and piss off some officers because they could literally not back him up in life or death situations? So idk if he advocates for 3rd party investigators later in this panel yet but that appears to be his goal?
@@erikfreeman45 i guess but where is the line? Would he ignore an officer ra***** a child? If not, i'd like to know the exact point his POTENTIAL self preservation out weigh his moral convictions because he's walking around with a gun and badge
I would want to know too but that would probably be enough to get the perpetrator reviled by the fellow cops.
Anyway, I'm still only thirty minutes in but just in case you may not have noticed the cop in the mid right panel who wishes he could report the number padding is not the same guy that doesn't have a webcam and seems to be against third party data collection.
So I wish the cop in the mid right had the courage to report his problematic coworker but yeah he seems more afraid than also corrupt imho
@@erikfreeman45 It's almost like there's an issue with the culture within policing...
@@kilgour22 it's almost like Counterpoints is a reformist who acknowledges this as a bad thing.
This immediately gave me a migraine. I only watched 5 minutes but this felt like a weird fever dream. I really don’t understand the point of doing these online panels with so many people, it never works. Its unlistenable.
There good with a good moderator
What is this madness, a panel with actually decent discussion????
Damn, the North-Korea parallel made the doobie dude or whatever his name is stutter HARD.
Ana again? My lord
So he left, I remember that part cause he wanted to sleep. But then he came back on later?
Let's get this out there because no one thinks of this: what happens to rats in prison? Now what happens to rats in the police force? This is why officers can't always speak up. It isn't always joe blows fault everyone around him is corrupt.
I think I understand why none of these issues ever get resolved.
Don’t forget Destiny is doing a charity stream today!
Where are these voices coming from?! I'm not seeing anybody's mouth moving sometimes lmao
That doc hasnt been able to save 8 patients in a row, should we report him?
This guy: Nah he might lose his job
stupid comment by a stupid person. "That doctor has saved countless lives but he stole a snickers. lets end this mans career" was the whole point the guy was making.
@@koyichan7829 I'm sorry it is too hard for you to understand that we should fire people who suck at their job/actively ignore their duties
@@koyichan7829 the problem isnt that the doc is stealing, it's that he cant save lives, and therefore is a shitty doc,
Like how a cop who doesnt stop crime is a shitty cop
@@koyichan7829 it's like if you found road workers MAKING potholes not filling them
@@koyichan7829 it's like if you found a fireman throwing gas or oil on a fire instead of putting it out
I love when Destiny goes on a panel
Edit: just realised Ana is in this one 😦 how is this going to go down?
spoiler alert, she sits there, makes one dark triad comment and doesn't say shit
My friend had a bad acid trip and it took 5 police officers to restrain him that why counterpoints made that point
yeah bad acid trips can go rlly bad
LSD doesn't increase your strength and doesn't increase violent outbursts. The only way that 5 police officers would be on the scene is if they were showing signs of violence. It probably means that "your friend" has problems not relating to LSD whatsoever. I don't think that you witnessed the event and are just believing what you heard w/o skepticism. Or you are leaving quite a bit out of the story. No matter what It was a terrible point. LSD is not a drug widely used and has even a smaller chance of leading to violent outbursts requiring any police involvement. Bringing up something that has such a minute chance of occurring is not relevant.
@@Onthebrink5 If I had to bet money, I would assume op was being sarcastic
@@Onthebrink5 idk who you're arguing with, i don't think anybody made that claim
@@Onthebrink5 truly bad trips give u crazy adrenaline u can think your dying or going crazy and that does give u strength trips like that rare rare but they do happen
Drew is in the panel just in case Ana needs emotional support.
Nice meme but nah she’s fine haha
@@drewwelty1967 Glad you're down with the memes :D.
@@mokki5785 I mean she was meming a bit in this convo lol Steven just happened to show up last night unplanned when we were on Primes panel haha
why do people do debates if they're going to get heated?
Because they like the internet brownie points they get for virtue signaling.
Couldn't you make the exalt same statement against Destiny?
@@JjackVideo correct
What is the podcast destiny is on?
Is it just me or is the audio out of sync? Oh there's a person with no video.
In Brazil we have a military justice, is pretty useless and unless they did something really horrible or obviously bad. Is usually used to get revenge on people who denouces crimes in the corporation more than it is used to punish the ones who commited.
When you find out someone on any job is doing something they ought not to do, it’s not your job to judge them. It’s your job to report the behavior to a superior and let them handle it. Otherwise you’re complicit in their behavior and what’s probably worse is that you are displaying contempt for the leadership you take your orders from.
this is great until you actually do it
i work retail and i had a manager that was singling me out for extra work and extra punishment- at first i thought i was just misreading it all and didnt see it for other people, because you always feel it more when it happens to you. then i had a couple coworkers come to me and tell me they’ve seen it, it does just happen to me, and it needs to be reported. i went to our store manager, who said she would talk to her about it. i got called out in the alley to talk to the both of them, where they told me it was never happening, i was just wrong about all of it, and when i pointed out that multiple people have told me to bring it up, they immediately asked for names “because this hasn’t been happening and they need to straighten it out”
THIS IS AT A RETAIL JOB WHERE WE DON’T DEPEND ON OUR COWORKERS TO SAVE OUR LIVES (coronavirus not withstanding)
I got caught up watching the minecraft in the background and I had to rewind a lot.
Love when white people say how helpless us blacks are.
poor dude had his hang up for an hour and was just ignored lol
59:56 LOL
Btw friendos, donut operator used to cover the monthly popo shooshoo wrap up but it broke his heart
The guy on the top right looks like Jon Snow
Loved this vid, listened to the whole thing!
Impossible
Every time Counterpoints and Destiny collide, I'm unsure how Destiny's going to treat him.
It’s like a Kinder Surprise, don’t know what toy you’re going to get.
@@TopSpeedKertus The real kinder surprise is eating it whole not knowing there is something inside and then choking
Man, that guy really thought pocketing that historical footnote of Bartolomé de las Casas was an ace up his sleeve.
Soo completely irrelevant.
Destiny for the win.
gazewithin in the background sadge
why do every single one of these debates have one or two women who just sit completely silent?
WTF I never noticed Ana was their lmao
Problem with UCMJ. It allows for the same issue now as there is in Law Enforcement. It is an entity inside the military meant to judge the military. Real world consequence is that I have a SNCO that rapes one of his airman, and only spends 6 months in prison. This would end up being a problem within a UCMLE system. Cop assaults a person in custody, and would receive a sentencing that would not even remotely resemble justice, and instead we would've created a system that coddles to the current system even more with less recourse by civilians.
Was this recent? I haven’t caught his last couple streams
Last night
Sometimes I find myself criticizing what people are saying in these debates, but then I realize they all probably know more than me on this subject.
Its funny these people think they somehow make a difference
So is this “doobie” fella just not on the panel? I don’t see anyone talking when he is saying shit
Is spectre Jon Snow from game of thrones?
Dollar store version but yes.
Cntrpnts: “Police are not corrupt, and to prove this, here are 12 personal examples about how I let a cop get away with something because if I report them stealing a candy bar they might let me get murdered.”
Hes so heated and personally invested that its hard to even know what point he's trying to make. I mean technically he's making the far left argument that these are irreconcilable systemic issues that can only be fixed by extreme reform but he's framing it as "you don't know what its like on the inside, man!" I think thats why this debate is kind of confusing to me because it sometimes feels like multiple people are arguing the same point very angrily at each other
@@ataridc I think he’s been so gaslit he can’t even tell he’s doing it to himself. PERSONALLY I got all the perspective on the police from a family member who is police (now works in internal affairs). American police are disturbingly cult like
@@GuyCN Police aren't taking bribes from narcos and executing people and throwing them in the Everglades. They ARE padding stats and covering for each other's brutality. Did I ever say the phrase "police are not corrupt" in that entire debate?
@@GuyCN Seems like you're assuming my position without me saying it.
@@Counterpoints sorry, didn’t think this comment would reach the myth himself.
TBH, I’m off work for the holidays, so I’m not thinking hard, don’t plan to, and I also don’t care about proving a point to you.
But since you might read this I just want you to know that your attempts and justifying police behavior from what I’ve seen has somehow further damaged my perceptions of the police.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I think its more likely for: the legislation to follow the will of the elected representative*
OK this cop guy is literally admiting that the thin blue line exists. What's funny is he gives examples that are minor but his mentality is also used in major examples. The traffic example is bad because the same is often never given to citizens. Yall have a motto that yall don't make the laws but yall will enforce them. So why would the police not be held to that standard. If the officer is lying about traffic stops that should be reported.
Who cares if it ruins their lives. Yall are literally the people who decide whether or not people go to jail or go home. I've literally had the drug Hound called in a traffic stop because I had a swisher sweat rapper in my car. He also lied and said it smelled like week. I smoke cigarettes I do smoke weed but I use it to fall asleep so I never would smoke it in my car. The funny thing after a hour and a half. He apologized and said and I qoute. "I confused Newport smoke with weed smoke" but wonder if he was the type of officer who would plant evidence. I'm fucked. That mentally is bad for a police officer to have. I like the idea of a third party.
😩❤️the FPS in the beginning of the video👌
Is the dude with the beanie RC Cola Tim Pool?
You made my day with that comment 😂😂😂
I'm crying 🤣
This lurid debated heated me into liking this video
It’s so funny how macho these people act online, if they were debating in real life, they wouldn’t be talking shit like this.
Who are all these people?
Yep he lied about a small thing to protect a cop lying about a small thing, just use his own arguments he's destroying himself
I seem to routinely forget, then remember, that I've tried to watch this debate before and cannot get through it. All the motivated reasoning (and believing Pisco knows what he's talking about) completely stops the debate from going anywhere useful, because so many of the premises are wrong to begin with. It's unfortunate.
yikes..
Thought you was the real one:(
Kit Harington in the top left just chillin
I like how the editor just gave up on censoring f bombs only 5 minutes in
The background noise from your game is killing me broski
Dope
I MADE TBE THUMBNAIL
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Glad I’m not the only one that’s looking at everyone, wondering who’s talking.
People really should read the 4 commissions on Police brutality were done throughout the years.
Do all cops whine as much as Counterpoints does?
These conversations never go anywhere because there is no nuance
8v1 here we go :)
if something is a problem you solve it does it even matter if its widespread ? if it happens to even one innocent person it should be addressed
The problem with what conorpoints said is if he really couldn’t trust this cop to help him if he was in trouble he needs to speak up. The end. I don’t think it makes him a bad cop, I just think it makes him irresponsible. He could be potentially putting himself and other colleagues at risk.
I didn't know Tim Pool was back in the debate :D
State budgets don't pay for most lawsuits, cops and cities have INSURANCE POLICIES that pay out. The only time a cop is held personally liable and their immunity is withheld is when he violates a civil liberty.
23:20 GOT 'EM
Is the female on this panel ever going to speak