You did a great job showing how unusable that shower is and how small the bed is in a different video with you guys actually in it. Not ideal to say the least but you made it work.
Having a bigger campervan might be a problem when parking at regular parking spots in Europe, at least in the Netherlands. My van measures about the same length as the Renault and a parking spot here is about 5 meters deep. So this often leads to use of two parkingspots or sticking out of the parking spot. Thank you for your entertaining and informative videos, I enjoy watching them.
That layout is available in the US as the Thor Rize/Scope 18A. There are necessary compromises to sqeeze second row forward facing seats into an 18' campervan. Fortunately, Thor offers two other layouts (18M, 18G) for those who prioritize a larger bathroom. I am just glad to see US RV manufacturers incorporating the 136" Promaster in their offerings.
The Truma combi on that particular van is fuelled by diesel from the diesel tank of the chassis. And it's totally safe to have the propane tank inside as the European legislation allows it as long as the compartment is airtight and there are vents on the bottom (as lpg is denser than air). The Master is not the ideal base for a conversion as its height is small compared to the Stellantis van (Ducato, Jumper, Boxer, Promaster) and specially the Transit in H3 configuration. But it's cheaper and the Master Van XL is an entry level product after all.
There is a very similar version/layout from Ahorn - Campervan 550. The propane gas system is checked for leak tightness on a regular basis. The short overall length makes it suitable for visiting/parking in old EU towns. The 3rd bed is easy to setup and I sleep in it regularly, being 5'8". And as already pointed out the heating system is on car diesel. The grey water tank is underneath and it is the limiting factor for driving on uneven roads. Perhaps, renting a bigger van is a better option than shipping overseas Thanks for the video.
this mini van is getting close to perfect. If I live in a small B camper I don't want visitors. The great vans for two will start when that useless bench for two is totally eliminated, and the bathroom is enlarged by that much
I was excited when you mentioned your book, only to realize I read it when it first came out. 😢If you ever feel like you have a third book in you I’ll be first in line to buy it 😊
Interesting insight from a camper from the USa into the European camper world. I am from Europe and drive a similar VAN to this one. But I also know the North American campers from a trip to Canada in a rented motorhome. The difference is enormous. The space on European roads is tight. In europe, permit holders are limited to a weight limit of 3.5 tons. This limits the size of motorhomes. There are larger motorhomes over 3.5 tons, but they require a truck driver's license. This is very expensive. Also the taxes and maintenance for these large motorhomes are expensive. To the gas in the van. Where should the gas bottle be transported? That the gas bottle in Europe is mounted in the vehicle is standard. We have to go to the gas test every 3 years. To the power cable. It is true that the voltage in Europe is 230V, which halves the current compared to 110Volt for the same consumer. So the cable can be half thinner. There are in European motorhomes also rather rarely air conditioning and other larger electrical consumers. Especially in southern Europe, there are campsites whose sockets are only fused with 4 amps. Standard is actually 13 ampere.
In the US, we have similar sized campers but they are built with small extensions on the sides which make the area in the bedroom wider so a taller person can sleep. The gas cans are always mounted on the exterior of the camper, never inside due to the safety risks.
WTR,,,,,HELLO JOE AND KAIT,HAPPY MOTHERS DAY ! This van,is TIGHT,like someone said,do away with those 2 rear seats,tho make the shower usable,the way no used to sleep,even a KING SISED BED WAS TOO SMALL,but ni had to cvhange,but been,on a KING SISED FROM THE MID 60s ,,anyhow stay well enjoy your adventures there,GOD BLESS,,🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
looks like a 5-5.4m van, seen better designed shower/toilets in this size van, but workable for more petite people, but not sure if you want to drive a bigger vehicle through Europe.
@@Weretherussos what I found suprising in Europe is running into" Horseboxes" based on European Heavy Trucks. These are like high end Class A's and Toy Haulers combined used for moving equestrian animals around
Ooof, that's Italian design for you : nice looks, terrible in practice. Why didn't you go with a German / Austrian / Polish variant? As long as it's in the EU it shouldn't be a problem
Man I just don't know about that van. I'm about the same height but I'm pretty big. We might need a crow bar to get me out of that shower. Still, it's nice to see what Europe is throwing down. I'm sorry to say this but compared to Europe most American built RV's, at least the commercial ones, are very flimsy and fall apart going down the road. Safe travels to you guys!
I don't agree with you on the quality of American vs European made. From the European campers I've seen, they have the same level of quality (or less) than the American brands. Of course there are higher end Euro campers but when you compare them to the equivalent American counterparts, they aren't much different. I'd love to know what your experience has been
Much better selection of prices, models and quality everywhere else as compared to rip off North America...the stupid 60 year old "chicken tax" means no van imports, so we are essentially limited domestic overpriced models in U.S. as well as Canada...
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You did a great job showing how unusable that shower is and how small the bed is in a different video with you guys actually in it. Not ideal to say the least but you made it work.
Having a bigger campervan might be a problem when parking at regular parking spots in Europe, at least in the Netherlands. My van measures about the same length as the Renault and a parking spot here is about 5 meters deep. So this often leads to use of two parkingspots or sticking out of the parking spot. Thank you for your entertaining and informative videos, I enjoy watching them.
Either get rid of the living room area or get rid of the bathroom. Having them both just makes them too small to be practical.
可摺床,吊床
As a pensioner, I shower while sitting on the toilet bowl at home.
That layout is available in the US as the Thor Rize/Scope 18A. There are necessary compromises to sqeeze second row forward facing seats into an 18' campervan. Fortunately, Thor offers two other layouts (18M, 18G) for those who prioritize a larger bathroom. I am just glad to see US RV manufacturers incorporating the 136" Promaster in their offerings.
The Truma combi on that particular van is fuelled by diesel from the diesel tank of the chassis. And it's totally safe to have the propane tank inside as the European legislation allows it as long as the compartment is airtight and there are vents on the bottom (as lpg is denser than air). The Master is not the ideal base for a conversion as its height is small compared to the Stellantis van (Ducato, Jumper, Boxer, Promaster) and specially the Transit in H3 configuration. But it's cheaper and the Master Van XL is an entry level product after all.
There is a very similar version/layout from Ahorn - Campervan 550. The propane gas system is checked for leak tightness on a regular basis. The short overall length makes it suitable for visiting/parking in old EU towns. The 3rd bed is easy to setup and I sleep in it regularly, being 5'8". And as already pointed out the heating system is on car diesel. The grey water tank is underneath and it is the limiting factor for driving on uneven roads.
Perhaps, renting a bigger van is a better option than shipping overseas
Thanks for the video.
Shipping overseas would not be that viable. Rent a bigger van with a better layout
For most class b, they should design without an indoor shower and have a setup for an outdoor shower. Better use of space.
100 %thrue
this mini van is getting close to perfect. If I live in a small B camper I don't want visitors. The great vans for two will start when that useless bench for two is totally eliminated, and the bathroom is enlarged by that much
I was excited when you mentioned your book, only to realize I read it when it first came out. 😢If you ever feel like you have a third book in you I’ll be first in line to buy it 😊
Lots of Renaults vans are being used in Australia now as cargo and van life cheaper alternative to the Sprinters I guess…
Delivery people like the very flat floor
Big Joe in Small Shower! 😊😅
the placement of the gas cylinder is not smart at all, getting rear ended could be fatal
Do you watch humble road? He is great at building vans out.he made a moving wall for a shower.took up no space.fantastic ideas for van builds
Interesting insight from a camper from the USa into the European camper world.
I am from Europe and drive a similar VAN to this one. But I also know the North American campers from a trip to Canada in a rented motorhome.
The difference is enormous.
The space on European roads is tight. In europe, permit holders are limited to a weight limit of 3.5 tons. This limits the size of motorhomes. There are larger motorhomes over 3.5 tons, but they require a truck driver's license. This is very expensive. Also the taxes and maintenance for these large motorhomes are expensive.
To the gas in the van. Where should the gas bottle be transported? That the gas bottle in Europe is mounted in the vehicle is standard. We have to go to the gas test every 3 years.
To the power cable. It is true that the voltage in Europe is 230V, which halves the current compared to 110Volt for the same consumer. So the cable can be half thinner. There are in European motorhomes also rather rarely air conditioning and other larger electrical consumers. Especially in southern Europe, there are campsites whose sockets are only fused with 4 amps. Standard is actually 13 ampere.
In the US, we have similar sized campers but they are built with small extensions on the sides which make the area in the bedroom wider so a taller person can sleep. The gas cans are always mounted on the exterior of the camper, never inside due to the safety risks.
WTR,,,,,HELLO JOE AND KAIT,HAPPY MOTHERS DAY ! This van,is TIGHT,like someone said,do away with those 2 rear seats,tho make the shower usable,the way no used to sleep,even a KING SISED BED WAS TOO SMALL,but ni had to cvhange,but been,on a KING SISED FROM THE MID 60s ,,anyhow stay well enjoy your adventures there,GOD BLESS,,🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Humm, this van is designed for little ppl like me lol!
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Yes I think so😂
Awesome video guys
Hey from San Antonio Tx. Was wondering when your next video was coming out.
Hey there! We release new videos every Friday at 2pm ET / 11am PT
It would be nice if there was a Wingamm van to rent or arrange a promo Wingamm van deal.
Not impressed with the size and quality of that van!
I do like how they 8:01 did that sink. Eventhough the bathroom is too small.
thinking there could be a We're the Russos trivia book. Have to watch the previous Russo videos if do not know the answer to the Trivia question
😮 front wheel drive.
Joe, where did you get the “Van Life” patch on your hat?
We had them made - that was our old logo
Could you please let know how long is this van? I'm guessing it's 5.5 metres.
I don’t know how long it is
It looks like it is the L2H2 so 5,5 is right
Hello. Where did you front Windows curtains bought?
I don’t know. They came with the rental
Do they sell it here in America?
These are smaller than I like
looks like a 5-5.4m van, seen better designed shower/toilets in this size van, but workable for more petite people, but not sure if you want to drive a bigger vehicle through Europe.
With all the campers we saw in Italy, we had one of the smaller ones. People didn't seem to have any issues with the larger rigs.
@@Weretherussos what I found suprising in Europe is running into" Horseboxes" based on European Heavy Trucks. These are like high end Class A's and Toy Haulers combined used for moving equestrian animals around
Before shipping your RV to Europe, check out the cost of insurance. It is EXTREMELY Expensive!!!!!! Better to rent.
Ooof, that's Italian design for you : nice looks, terrible in practice. Why didn't you go with a German / Austrian / Polish variant? As long as it's in the EU it shouldn't be a problem
It’s actually not Italian but French. We didn’t have a choice of van when we got our rental
Man I just don't know about that van. I'm about the same height but I'm pretty big. We might need a crow bar to get me out of that shower. Still, it's nice to see what Europe is throwing down. I'm sorry to say this but compared to Europe most American built RV's, at least the commercial ones, are very flimsy and fall apart going down the road. Safe travels to you guys!
I don't agree with you on the quality of American vs European made. From the European campers I've seen, they have the same level of quality (or less) than the American brands. Of course there are higher end Euro campers but when you compare them to the equivalent American counterparts, they aren't much different. I'd love to know what your experience has been
@@Weretherussos In Australia we have a problem with some European . Many of the US Class B's would not make it on the Promaster or Transit chassis
😂 Obviously the van and bathroom are geared towards European sized folks and not Americans.
That’s absolutely right!
Much better selection of prices, models and quality everywhere else as compared to rip off North America...the stupid 60 year old "chicken tax" means no van imports, so we are essentially limited domestic overpriced models in U.S. as well as Canada...
The entire bathroom is a disaster. It’s not functional and a cassette toilet, always yucky for me.
That van was very underwhelming.
Pretty basic van. No wonder it was a rental
Bad shower design. Should have just done a wet bath!