He spilled his entire heart and soul into a record and was embarrassed when everyone hated it at first. He put all of his insecurities out there and it was critically bashed. Rivers called it a "Drunken mistake". I completely understand why he hates it. Then, when he finally got around to writing more music, he starting writing soulless pop because thats what sells apparently, after all pinkerton didn't, and blue was a pop album. Then, everyone called rivers out for having no soul to his music.
I believe that people called out the soulless music because Weezer/Rivers was not being true to themselves. Rivers is definitely a guy who can write fantastic pop songs, but he’s also a guy with some emotional baggage that is very meaningful. Trying to cover that up with the Green Album seemed kinda fake. Pinkerton has the best of both worlds.
+Amanda Lucia meh, it's too whiny and dark. When I first started listening to it I thought it was their best album but then one time I was listening to it in the car while driving my friends and they were like "wtf is this shit? early emo?" and it made me think. It made me realize just how whiny the singing and lyrics really are - I was so captivated by the music at first that I overlooked it - and REALLY hate whiny singing from men. Pretty much the only whiny Music I "like" is from Weezer and Muse... they can somehow pull it off, but it's a HUGE turn off from me in general. Largely because of that, the abrasive sound and lack of rockability I rate Pinkerton as their third best album after Blue and Green.
It IS early emo, how did you not already know that? Written by a lonely college kid living in a dark room with a bum leg. The album is perfect, b-sides and all.
Amanda Lucia early emo?Dude I was in high school when Weezer came out and they ain't emo.emo is young men crying for sure ,but Weezer is generally happy...their guitarist died ...that may have caused some sadder songs but I just looked at this by chance.im not a hardcore Weezer fan ,but buddy holly and that if you want to destroy my sweater song are not emo.they go for the nerd" buddy holly "look...it's their shtick. I guess you'll be calling Roy Orbison emo next lol smh. Being dark or sad doesn't immediately make you emo. Typo O negitive has some of the the saddest songs in modern music...they are GOTHIC but they are also metal/ rock and similar to Weezer don't scream like they want to cut their wrists which seems to be the ultimate definition of emo BESIDES hardcore dual guitar and drumming.old school emo was really a version of hardcore that got out of hand and became the retarded trash it's evolved into today. That's your music lessons for today,goodbye children
Stephen Richards Wow you totally let others influence your personal tastes. You seem like another weak minded sheep. You only like weezer and muse. You are a radioslave. Go listen to more music before you go giving your shit opinion backed with little knowledge of what you're really talking about. "lack of rockability" what are you going on about? Spew less nonsense and go broaden your musical horizons. Inform yourself about good bands before you try to make a point or else someone will really shit all over you.
Critics hated The Velvet Underground and nico when it first came out and now it's one of the most influential albums of all time. Just like Pinkerton ;)
It sounds better in the sense that the recording is alot more clear. It sounds worse in the sense that these guys are not 25 anymore and lack the energy they had in 96.
Best record of all time in my opinion. I think Weezer just existed for a moment in time and then moved on. When you are writing songs about being a poor, loner, young adult in unrequited love, it doesn't help your song writing when you get rich, famous, old and married.
I completely agree. This record came at just the right time for me...I can listen to the tracks now and have different emotional memories from each track....
What a solid dude, caring about the view of whoever won whatever contest to see them like that. What a trip, by the way, to just get to see Weeze in a living room. Edit: style
Seeing Rivers use only 3 pedals is awesome. Just goes to show you don't need a massive board with 20 effects to sound good or original. The power goes to the song-writing.
Good to know Brian’s favorite songs come from Pinkerton and Red, especially this one. Rivers’ favorite songs are just the most popular/relevant because of insecurity, it’s a shame. He still doesn’t see the beauty of this sort of Weezer music.
when vocalists are rehearsing they dont usually go for the screams cuz they dont want to wear out their voices right away so they can last through long sessions or maybe even a show later
I remember hearing this live during their Pinkerton tour at Roseland Ballroom NYC while it was still around, years ago. Show opener and they killed it!
I watched a video of this song from the memories tour and the emotion was there. It made me very happy. I'm going to see them on a pinkerton night and I absolutely can not wait until I hear this song live. I really hope Rivers keeps the emotion that I saw in that last video (not this one, lol- it was not there AT ALL in this one)- he almost seemed embarrassed to do it like he did on the album.
I recognize that guitar riff Brian plays near the beginning, but I can't put my finger on what song it is. Don't think it's a Weezer song, but something else from the 90s.
I understand this was posted 3 years ago and you may not even see it but the reason Rivers was upset because Pinkerton was horribly received by fans and critics at the time of its release.
yeah i wouldnt be concerned. thinking logically, when rivers gets in front of the audience for a concert, there is nothing that will stop him from pouring out 100 percent of his energy into every song, they're just rehearsing to get the techinical sutff down again. either way, it was great, i thought i was dreaming
I love the way he's performing in this video. Some people are smart enough to like what they like and continue to do so no matter what some knuckle head says on TH-cam about why that's allegedly wrong. -#1 Troll Buffoonerized!
im sorry but we are all on drugs is one of the best songs i've ever heard by weezer. beverly hills is angsty and self depreciating, like the old weezer. everybody grows up, but weezer have not changed massively like everyone seems to think. in fact they're still very constant.
This is a rehearsal video. I think saying they're "bored" because they're not jumping around screaming inside a small rehearsal space while attempting to hammer out the performance details of the fairly complex Pinkerton album for the then-upcoming tour is especially accurate.
+Kyle Wagoner idk but its all about how you tune your snare! i have two of the exact same snares tuned differently and one sounds like this the other is a bit deeper.
things change. people change. get over it. not that any of you care but iv been in bands almost my whole life and doing the same thing forever just sounds like hell to me. while this is still my fav album by them (followed by the blue) i still love their other albums. its not easy to write an album where every song is a hit. you people calling yourselves hardcore fans are really just hardcore fans of certain albums. that is not a hardcore fan. im glad they changed
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imagine what weezer would be like now if everybody loved pinkerton
Haiden Gerstner Matt Sharp would still be in the band
@@ObiWanKenobi maybe not
Obi-Wan Kenobi Nah, Matt still probably would’ve left
Pinkerton is their best album ever!
Obi-Wan Kenobi he still would’ve left, he was sick of being a bassist. Pinkerton’s failure meant nothing in that retrospect
Matt has really changed since 1996
Lol
Bruh
Cause it’s not him 😜
That ain't matt sharp that's Scott shriner.
Asar the Wise r/Woooosh
He spilled his entire heart and soul into a record and was embarrassed when everyone hated it at first. He put all of his insecurities out there and it was critically bashed. Rivers called it a "Drunken mistake". I completely understand why he hates it. Then, when he finally got around to writing more music, he starting writing soulless pop because thats what sells apparently, after all pinkerton didn't, and blue was a pop album. Then, everyone called rivers out for having no soul to his music.
I love weezer pop rock or not, people are just picky and can't enjoy damn music sometime
Blue, Pinkerton, EWBAITE and White are the only ones I would consider as "great records".
Blue album was Pop Rock
I believe that people called out the soulless music because Weezer/Rivers was not being true to themselves. Rivers is definitely a guy who can write fantastic pop songs, but he’s also a guy with some emotional baggage that is very meaningful. Trying to cover that up with the Green Album seemed kinda fake. Pinkerton has the best of both worlds.
Weird, I always thought it was well received. It was among me and my friends as teens anyway
Scott's awesome, "oh wait that's no other one"
Everything about Pinkerton is perfect, and this song is no exception!
+Amanda Lucia meh, it's too whiny and dark. When I first started listening to it I thought it was their best album but then one time I was listening to it in the car while driving my friends and they were like "wtf is this shit? early emo?" and it made me think. It made me realize just how whiny the singing and lyrics really are - I was so captivated by the music at first that I overlooked it - and REALLY hate whiny singing from men. Pretty much the only whiny Music I "like" is from Weezer and Muse... they can somehow pull it off, but it's a HUGE turn off from me in general.
Largely because of that, the abrasive sound and lack of rockability I rate Pinkerton as their third best album after Blue and Green.
It IS early emo, how did you not already know that? Written by a lonely college kid living in a dark room with a bum leg. The album is perfect, b-sides and all.
+Stephen Richards your friends are a bad influence
Amanda Lucia early emo?Dude I was in high school when Weezer came out and they ain't emo.emo is young men crying for sure ,but Weezer is generally happy...their guitarist died ...that may have caused some sadder songs but I just looked at this by chance.im not a hardcore Weezer fan ,but buddy holly and that if you want to destroy my sweater song are not emo.they go for the nerd" buddy holly "look...it's their shtick.
I guess you'll be calling Roy Orbison emo next lol smh.
Being dark or sad doesn't immediately make you emo.
Typo O negitive has some of the the saddest songs in modern music...they are GOTHIC but they are also metal/ rock and similar to Weezer don't scream like they want to cut their wrists which seems to be the ultimate definition of emo BESIDES hardcore dual guitar and drumming.old school emo was really a version of hardcore that got out of hand and became the retarded trash it's evolved into today.
That's your music lessons for today,goodbye children
Stephen Richards Wow you totally let others influence your personal tastes. You seem like another weak minded sheep. You only like weezer and muse. You are a radioslave. Go listen to more music before you go giving your shit opinion backed with little knowledge of what you're really talking about. "lack of rockability" what are you going on about? Spew less nonsense and go broaden your musical horizons. Inform yourself about good bands before you try to make a point or else someone will really shit all over you.
Pinkerton is the best album they ever did. The critics were out of their minds back in 1998.
I loved this album, the only criticism i have is that i felt it was too short. otherwise its the tits.
Yeah, It's simply amazing. This and the Blue Album are the best. Also, I was wrong, it came out in 96'. Didn't think it was THAT old! XD
Critics hated The Velvet Underground and nico when it first came out and now it's one of the most influential albums of all time. Just like Pinkerton ;)
You know what satisfies a craving for more Pinkerton? A good helping of Deluxe Edition. ;) wait.... No.... I just want more then..... Never mind.
ChanceBarberFilms you mean 1996
Rivers and Brian’s tone is incredible
Looks like they both got Boss DS-2 pedals... sometimes nothin' beat a good ole Boss DS-1 or DS-2
Love the slowness of this version, gives it an exhausted feeling
Probably because they're tired
that's the way the demo sounds
sounds just like in the record, brilliant
sounds better
It sounds better in the sense that the recording is alot more clear. It sounds worse in the sense that these guys are not 25 anymore and lack the energy they had in 96.
@@maribsuarez no it definitely sounds better
@@morganfreeman2102 Rivers' vocals are far worse here, he sounds so tired.
As long as you put it in 1.25 speed
"No weirdness in the beginning? Oh wait, nevermind thats No Other One" hahahahahahahahahaha
😂
I mean noone else....lmao
@@rob1973ablebruh 13 years ago ahaha. this is my current account, i posted the og comment
Pinkerton is my favorite album by weezer. This is probably my fav track from it. IMHO Pinkerton is the best of =w= because it's so raw and emotional.
Best record of all time in my opinion. I think Weezer just existed for a moment in time and then moved on. When you are writing songs about being a poor, loner, young adult in unrequited love, it doesn't help your song writing when you get rich, famous, old and married.
I completely agree. This record came at just the right time for me...I can listen to the tracks now and have different emotional memories from each track....
exactly, me too.
The greatest underrated album of all time.
i always thought this was the weakest on the album (my favorite album too btw)
Thanks Brian, from the fans
Brian Bell looks out for the fans. 1 more reason he's awesome.
My humbled opinion is that this song alone places Pinkerton in a class of its own.
mcbillygoat ! And el scorcho
What a solid dude, caring about the view of whoever won whatever contest to see them like that. What a trip, by the way, to just get to see Weeze in a living room.
Edit: style
perfect song from perfect album
I guess you could call it a Perfect Situation..
Cringe
@@4ppletv376 this was so bad that he decided to disappear
pinkerton is so fucking good
They are seriously rocking in this performance.
So much energy....
@@gawrgurafan1257 vocals are super inspired too
Seeing Rivers use only 3 pedals is awesome. Just goes to show you don't need a massive board with 20 effects to sound good or original. The power goes to the song-writing.
That was for just that song. He has bigger pedal arrays in other performances.
All you really need to perform most any Pinkerton song on guitar is a good overdrive and something like a Boss DS-2 and stack that shit
Good to know Brian’s favorite songs come from Pinkerton and Red, especially this one. Rivers’ favorite songs are just the most popular/relevant because of insecurity, it’s a shame. He still doesn’t see the beauty of this sort of Weezer music.
Heard this song live last night. It’s is sooo good
This song seems so simple but it's so infectious. Won't get out of my head. This is definitely one of the best Weezer songs ever.
Our camera guy is standing right in front of our contest winners that’s what I was trying to say
Hey Annika
@@nnikaa3 hey
@@nnikaa3 what r u doing here
@@annika6790 listening to RARE-WEEZER - getchoo live in the studio for fan club...
@@annika6790 what r u doing here
2:28 love the bridge. A simple and effective part that leads to the guitar solo
Probably my favorite version of this song. It absolutely crushes
I really want to reply to all these comments from 2 years ago saying that Weezer is dead. *sigh* If they only knew about the new album...
SmileWilliam and now the white album and black album hype
JumpOffABridgeM8 pacific daydream looks meh
if only you knew about pacific dream 3 years ago. lol
Quin Rizer it’s terrible
Bumping for time travelers
Scott sounds amazing
Good Guy Brian. Get outta the way camera man.
Wow the quality is amazing! Great to see them so close.
when vocalists are rehearsing they dont usually go for the screams cuz they dont want to wear out their voices right away so they can last through long sessions or maybe even a show later
omg they are even better live, i love it
Anyone else here after The Bear S3:E4 end credits hit so hard that you just had to dig deeper?
To be clear, I have been intimately familiar with Weezer's work since the 90's, tyvm
haha brian! That was hilarious. But ya, this is awesome I'm really stoked for this tour.
Rivers hair is so much better now
I remember hearing this live during their Pinkerton tour at Roseland Ballroom NYC while it was still around, years ago. Show opener and they killed it!
hells yeah! Finally playing this album again!
I didn't know that Rivers played Wah on that song for some weird reason. His solo on this performance is totally inspiring!!
The vocals are honestly much better in this than the album
I watched a video of this song from the memories tour and the emotion was there. It made me very happy. I'm going to see them on a pinkerton night and I absolutely can not wait until I hear this song live. I really hope Rivers keeps the emotion that I saw in that last video (not this one, lol- it was not there AT ALL in this one)- he almost seemed embarrassed to do it like he did on the album.
Shriner's bass riffs in this are wicked. Dude can play
Saw weezer in NL (Canada) and they were fantastic! I hope they come back!
How the fuck does this sound so damn good?
They do? I just hear open chords?
@@jasonsneed3731 Yeah man, too bad they aren't doing 50 solos instead... Moron.
Unpopular opinion but this is the best song on Pinkerton
Pinkerton is in my top Ten greatest all time albums. From the 90's till now.
Pinkertone, so hated in its day, so loved in hindsight. Brilliant.
this mixing and recording is phenomenal
Pinkerton - Best Rock Album Ever For Non Metal but Hard Rockin Sound. Kudos!
It does, except the drums are missing that aggression that was on the album
Darned camera guys standing in front of the contest winners!
this shows up at my feed i get to the solo i search rivers cuomo guitar solo the first thing that comes up is this video again lol
I recognize that guitar riff Brian plays near the beginning, but I can't put my finger on what song it is. Don't think it's a Weezer song, but something else from the 90s.
it sounds like that one song from Maladroit
Kinda sounds like Somewhat Damaged by NIN
I know this post was from 10 yrs ago, but the riff you are talking about is the run-up to the ending...Sorry if this has been mentioned already...
Thanks for sharing!! This is mother freaking awesome! 👍❤️😊🎈💁😻
The thing I respect is that his voice did get better as the years went on (IMO) so he can go back and wail on these old songs.
Wow! This sounds amazing
glad they are embracing pinkerton..
it was a GREAT album.. never understood why rivers was so upset with it.
I understand this was posted 3 years ago and you may not even see it but the reason Rivers was upset because Pinkerton was horribly received by fans and critics at the time of its release.
wrong. fans loved pinkerton from the start. It only got bad reviews for a brief period of time and by relatively few outlets.
@@hkhjg1734 It was rated the 2nd or 3rd worst album of 1996 by Rolling Stone readers... wouldn't consider that love
Fantastic.
yeah i wouldnt be concerned. thinking logically, when rivers gets in front of the audience for a concert, there is nothing that will stop him from pouring out 100 percent of his energy into every song, they're just rehearsing to get the techinical sutff down again. either way, it was great, i thought i was dreaming
Legend
Dude, this is so badass
great version~!
First time listening to this song, I heard on The Bear season 3 episode 4
i love how its a bit slower than the album version
prefect song from prefect album. edit: hanks for the lies k
i'm 42 now and pinkerton was my university tune
Damn this sounds good
thanks for sharing this!
you know a band is good when their live shows sound exactly like the recorded song.
@TeeMontague Matt Sharp wrote this bass riff, it's from Pinkerton......but Scott is the man :)
This is so tight!
Sounds so freakin clean!
This is how my band recorded our CD!
rivers and brian sound so good together
....more of this show please
This is awesome!
this sounds great.
holy shit the memories tour better come to toronto, this just blew my mind
I've always love the Pinkerton album
amazeballs!! i love it .
So fucking clean! ✨
LOVE U WEEZER!!!!!!!!
AWESOME.
I love the way he's performing in this video. Some people are smart enough to like what they like and continue to do so no matter what some knuckle head says on TH-cam about why that's allegedly wrong. -#1 Troll Buffoonerized!
Total class
Brian sounds pissed at the cameraman lol
I love seeing Rivers work the pedals.
Pinkerton is an amazing album.
this song would fit right in Pulp's This Is Hardcore
I was in the original weezer fan club in 1994.
fellas, i think i'm gonna need a rag when i see you guys at the gibson in a few weeks...
They could do Superfriend like that ..sound so Nice! !
im sorry but we are all on drugs is one of the best songs i've ever heard by weezer. beverly hills is angsty and self depreciating, like the old weezer. everybody grows up, but weezer have not changed massively like everyone seems to think. in fact they're still very constant.
This is a rehearsal video. I think saying they're "bored" because they're not jumping around screaming inside a small rehearsal space while attempting to hammer out the performance details of the fairly complex Pinkerton album for the then-upcoming tour is especially accurate.
AWESOME!
mind blowing!
Weezer should do what Soundgarden did with SuperUnknown and just tour playing it start to finish. I mean with Pinkerton obviously. Not SuperUnknown :P
Thats right except Soundgarden should have done it with Badmotorfinger...
That would've have been sweet
They did.
Weezer or Soundgarden?
***** Weezer. Check out the Memories tour.
Your devoted fan here =W=!!!
This is epic.
I can't wait for the Roseland shows where they will play all of the Blue album AND Pinkerton.
I wanna know what snare Pat is using. Sounds so good.
+Kyle Wagoner idk but its all about how you tune your snare! i have two of the exact same snares tuned differently and one sounds like this the other is a bit deeper.
things change. people change. get over it. not that any of you care but iv been in bands almost my whole life and doing the same thing forever just sounds like hell to me. while this is still my fav album by them (followed by the blue) i still love their other albums. its not easy to write an album where every song is a hit. you people calling yourselves hardcore fans are really just hardcore fans of certain albums. that is not a hardcore fan. im glad they changed