People saying the farmland arc is boring need to understand this isn't a battle shonin, its a story. A story thats deep and complex and has meaning and isn't like your typical trash isekai to watch drunk.
@@tyronsredux This is the exact problem I have with my friends I can't recommend peak like Vinland to them because they'd rather watch flashing energy blasts
YES, ITS HERE! Speaking of my own opinion for a bit, I watched Vinland Saga because it was one of a plethora of shows a friend of mine watched from the 'seinen' genre. I wasn't aware of the representation of this word or the debate around it until then, and had almost passed it off as something i wouldnt watch. Fast forwarding a bit, Vinland Saga is one of the most (alongside fma and fmab) pristine exemplifications of human nature and the devotion an author has given to their work that it feels heavily surreal to be a part of the ride. Thank you T.R! ❤🎉
This was beautifully written man, I'm glad your friend put you on to one of the most beautiully written series in the medium. I hope you've also picked up the manga because it is well worth the read🙏🏾 and thank you for enjoying the video💓
@tyronsredux I definitely will! I've just recently started going through all the other adaptations to a story, and I know right? I'm also glad I went through with it! ❤️🤯
You didn't watch frieren if you came to the idea it told more then shown. All we see is her life and how poor choice made her regret not spending time with her short lived friends
Frieren is very tell not show. At least compared to vinland saga and other philosophical-like animes. To begin with frieren has a very boring past and unless author does some type of frieren arc that takes place when she was 500yo or something that explain her characterfor the past 1,000 years it would probably remain that way. Every time i argue with a frieren fan I ask them why did frieren have a Huge change of heart on humans and life in general AFTER 1,000 years. All they say is “well because she set her new goal to be understand humans” Idk about you but that sounds very boring and almost robot like of a character. For someone to basically not have a care in the world, be very nonchalant, and simply have everything come of as easy or pointless her whole life and simply make a complete 360 on personality and beliefs AFTER 1000 YEARS, solely cuz she made a goal is very boring. Now I will say vinland and frieren have VERY different ways to tell a story and pretty much a completely different genre in general. Frieren has more comedic, and shonen-like story building. While Vinland focuses on philosophy, and truly understanding or at least a view the basis of war and trauma.
@@ReyGarcia-z5r Ironically the point of contention you have is the biggest point of "Show don't tell" from Frieren. She has ALWAYS cared but never realised it, ever since her meeting from Flamme. She grew flowers around Flamme's grave, She remembered and know a lot about Himmel's likes, dislikes, and way of thinking (showing us that she knows more about him than she believes she does), She remembers a lot about Volg. Heck, She grew flowers for Himmel when he was lost as kid purely just to cheer him up. The only difference between the Present Frieren and past Frieren is that now she's making more of a CONSCIOUS effort about it but that care and compassion has always been there. Serie is a perfect representation of how past Frieren acts. Serie while saying that her students are basically disposable, she remembers every single one their favorite spell and has never regretted teaching a sngle one of them.
@@bananawithaknife while you do make a valid point. It is still comical that it took her 1,000 years to realize this. I’m sure the author was trying to make a funny silly moment so I won’t be too hard on it. But the fact she decided to start acting different because she had a new goal, and was basically bored of being bored for a millennium is hilarious. I mean author could have linked it to someone or something, or some event that affects her but nah, “lets try something new”. Sorry im not even arguing about “show don’t tell” anymore I just hate how frieren’s journey began after Himmel’s death.
@@ReyGarcia-z5r " I mean author could have linked it to someone or something, or some event that affects her" ...Himmel's death? Ok, this is to the point I actually have to ask this and I hate the fact that I have to. Did you actually watch any part of the show? This sounds like you only got the general story from hearsay. Her journey is literally about understanding Himmel better by retaking the journey she had with him and then meeting up with him again in the "heaven" of this universe as the end point. Also She's an Elf, her concept of time is very different to us. This is pretty much shown all throughout the show.
And then there are people like Triggered Senpai who watched an anime know nothing about that in terms of its themes, dynamics, character development, etc & just yapping about it just like a baby who thinks that if something isn't entertaining it's BAD 😶
Vinland saga was the first anime and manga I ever watched and read, starting from when season 2 came out. Only a year and a half but just thinking back to how a piece of literature could make me tear up when Thorfinn being dragged away after trying to attack Canute, his look of despair as his entire life purpose dies at the hands of another, when usually I’d feel completely emotionless while reading anything, it makes me so happy that I got over the phase of thinking anime was for weirdos
Honestly while im into a good amount of anime one of the things thats always bothered me is so many anime uae way too many monologues, exposition, things are explained not shown. The anime I tend to gravitate to are the ones that try to use subtlety and nuance, I feel a lot of anime struggles with those things
@@tyronsreduxhow about you change the frieren image to one when the show is telling because you have a pic of her crying lable as telling. Last I checked crying is showing
@@eddieboston6540she cries and then immediately tells the audience why she is crying. “ I wish I took the time to get to know him better” she then explains that she will be more in touch with humans and understand them better because she feels she has nothing else to do. This was all said and explain by Frieren herself in ep1 so yes she quite literally tells us
@@ReyGarcia-z5r And? How is it «bad» in any terms? I get it if she's not show any emotion and instead just say this like «oh shit, i'm sad af» but in reality she's not. You know, people in real life also tell about they feelings when they sad, happy etc. «I hate this shit!», «God, this is so funny», «Wow, what a beautiful thing, i like it so much» -- i bet you hear people said this pretty often in real life. Saying «i wish i can know him better» after cried for you passed away friend is realistic and have nothing to do with bad storytelling. If you gonna nitpick that much then how about Vinland Saga? When Thorfin screams to Askellad «waaa, i'll kill you, waaa!» what is it if not «telling» instead of «showing»? Why he say that? Author thinks that we can't get his true feelings at that moment? But he's crying too just like Frieren did in her scene. Why is VS telling instead of showing? I hope you get that i exaggerate on purpose just to show how absurd this «show, don't tell» bias can be sometimes. If we continue this way we might get to the point when all words in movies and shows are «bad storytelling» and «oh, character said "i'm tired", what a shitty writing, stop telling things and just show them». I get that now everybody in the internet are self proclaimed critics and know everything about writing, storytelling and directing better than anybody else but... that's not true. If you wanna actually see what «telling instead of showing» means i suggest you check Tensura S3. After that you might get the true meaning of cinematography golden rule which both Frieren and Vinland Saga executed almost perfectly.
@@ИванПетров-э8с4ш you know when the characters tell the audience something, its not that fuggin obvious right? She literally says what going on and that means the story is telling not showing. Ex: in the Mandalorian there is a scene where mando tells grogu all there is to know about a planet’s atmosphere, population etc. to let US the audience know what that planet is like wether its habitable etc. when the story is “telling” us something it does not mean that all characters immediately stop what they are doing and get into a nice professional setting and let us know the current events and why they are happening like its a meeting or sum. It can be indirect but its still telling not showing. Anime in general does this so its no surprise or shame that frieren does this
@@donovanb8247 "I don't usually watch dubbed", ok, here's a solution, and I say this without being a dick. Instead of judging of a dub because you have only seen a few seconds of it, just watch the entire show and then you can critque the voice actors performance.
@@tyronsredux I thought you'd like to experience hell. And also because it's just the greatest show ever made. I never finished it though, I couldn't. To much
I absolutely HATE the line "I have no enemies," because that implies enemies are one sided from only one personal point of view. Just because you don't call or recognize someone as an enemy, doesn't mean they aren't. Just ask anyone who's been poisoned by their loved ones or attacked on the street for no reason. I just hate that line. It's so remarkably short sighted and egocentric, but when you're that emotionally and intellectually repressed by a life of violence and hate, I guess anyone could lack the greater Freudian superego awareness of how others might see or experience the world and your place in it.
You don't understand what he was saying he was saying you are not born to fight anyone that is never any of our purposes. That's why he said he had no enemies he has no one he was born to kill
It runs much deeper than that. It sounds like you need to read some Stoicism or the Buddhist Dhammapada. Other people can think of themselves as your enemy all they like, but by feeding into that game you will find yourself ceaselessly dragged into all manner of conflict and hatred. You'll never stand a chance of finding any real spiritual peace by letting others tell you if you should hate them or not.
3:17 This happens a lot with video essays, how do you expect me to read and listen to other words at the same time brother. Please no more of this in future videos.
@@pianopp1Yea he touched a girls who he kidnap to see if it fix his limp dick they of course then starve on top of having them piss themselves because they broke a figure of Roxy who clothes could come off that Rudy made for some nerd. This figure can be made in no time also the real Roxy is dealing with sexual harassment for some noble bart who we are supposed to dislike but we see Rudy doing far worse.
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Vinland saga -helping men learn its okay to have emotions and process them instead of believing suffering is strength is gold❤
People saying the farmland arc is boring need to understand this isn't a battle shonin, its a story. A story thats deep and complex and has meaning and isn't like your typical trash isekai to watch drunk.
Berserk,vinland saga,vagabond and Cestvs are the only mangas that i liked.because the protags are not annoying.
@@Scarcheezeyou should try the climber
unfortunetly people prefer quick dopamine and simplicity over slow burns and complexity
@@tyronsredux This is the exact problem I have with my friends
I can't recommend peak like Vinland to them because they'd rather watch flashing energy blasts
Battle shounen have story’s too it’s just that most use fights to tell the story. It’s a different way of getting ideas across.
"I have many enemies"
"Proceed pol pot mode"
😭😭💀💀
YES, ITS HERE! Speaking of my own opinion for a bit, I watched Vinland Saga because it was one of a plethora of shows a friend of mine watched from the 'seinen' genre. I wasn't aware of the representation of this word or the debate around it until then, and had almost passed it off as something i wouldnt watch. Fast forwarding a bit, Vinland Saga is one of the most (alongside fma and fmab) pristine exemplifications of human nature and the devotion an author has given to their work that it feels heavily surreal to be a part of the ride. Thank you T.R! ❤🎉
This was beautifully written man, I'm glad your friend put you on to one of the most beautiully written series in the medium. I hope you've also picked up the manga because it is well worth the read🙏🏾 and thank you for enjoying the video💓
@tyronsredux I definitely will! I've just recently started going through all the other adaptations to a story, and I know right? I'm also glad I went through with it! ❤️🤯
Peakland saga is life changing
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!!!!!!!
You didn't watch frieren if you came to the idea it told more then shown.
All we see is her life and how poor choice made her regret not spending time with her short lived friends
Frieren is very tell not show. At least compared to vinland saga and other philosophical-like animes. To begin with frieren has a very boring past and unless author does some type of frieren arc that takes place when she was 500yo or something that explain her characterfor the past 1,000 years it would probably remain that way. Every time i argue with a frieren fan I ask them why did frieren have a Huge change of heart on humans and life in general AFTER 1,000 years. All they say is “well because she set her new goal to be understand humans” Idk about you but that sounds very boring and almost robot like of a character. For someone to basically not have a care in the world, be very nonchalant, and simply have everything come of as easy or pointless her whole life and simply make a complete 360 on personality and beliefs AFTER 1000 YEARS, solely cuz she made a goal is very boring. Now I will say vinland and frieren have VERY different ways to tell a story and pretty much a completely different genre in general. Frieren has more comedic, and shonen-like story building. While Vinland focuses on philosophy, and truly understanding or at least a view the basis of war and trauma.
@@ReyGarcia-z5r Ironically the point of contention you have is the biggest point of "Show don't tell" from Frieren.
She has ALWAYS cared but never realised it, ever since her meeting from Flamme.
She grew flowers around Flamme's grave, She remembered and know a lot about Himmel's likes, dislikes, and way of thinking (showing us that she knows more about him than she believes she does), She remembers a lot about Volg. Heck, She grew flowers for Himmel when he was lost as kid purely just to cheer him up.
The only difference between the Present Frieren and past Frieren is that now she's making more of a CONSCIOUS effort about it but that care and compassion has always been there.
Serie is a perfect representation of how past Frieren acts. Serie while saying that her students are basically disposable, she remembers every single one their favorite spell and has never regretted teaching a sngle one of them.
@@bananawithaknife while you do make a valid point. It is still comical that it took her 1,000 years to realize this. I’m sure the author was trying to make a funny silly moment so I won’t be too hard on it. But the fact she decided to start acting different because she had a new goal, and was basically bored of being bored for a millennium is hilarious. I mean author could have linked it to someone or something, or some event that affects her but nah, “lets try something new”. Sorry im not even arguing about “show don’t tell” anymore I just hate how frieren’s journey began after Himmel’s death.
@@ReyGarcia-z5r " I mean author could have linked it to someone or something, or some event that affects her"
...Himmel's death? Ok, this is to the point I actually have to ask this and I hate the fact that I have to. Did you actually watch any part of the show?
This sounds like you only got the general story from hearsay. Her journey is literally about understanding Himmel better by retaking the journey she had with him and then meeting up with him again in the "heaven" of this universe as the end point.
Also She's an Elf, her concept of time is very different to us. This is pretty much shown all throughout the show.
@@ReyGarcia-z5r I'm sorry I'm being all agressive but it really sounds you didn't even watch it.
This is gonna be a banger
I hope you enjoy it🙏🏾
How did u write this 22 hours ago when the vid was uploaded 4 hours ago 🤨
@@mr.regular589 I hacked youtube (I made the comment before the premiere)
@@migu6528 yeah I realized legit the second after I posted my comment, but I was too lazy to delete it 💀
when tyron understands peak
Appreciate it broskii🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@tyronsredux can you make a video on bleach
I'm glad this got recommended to me on youtube, fire video bro I'll be here for more content
Glad to have you around🫡
It's safe to say that Vinland Saga changed me as a human being.
Same🫱🏾🫲🏾
No, wait until You experience something that now lets You understand the story on a deeper level
I miss it too. SOOOOO FU**ng much 😭😭😭
The Florence Pugh shoutout is crazy. Fire vid boss.
🙏🏾That's the love of my life
And then there are people like Triggered Senpai who watched an anime know nothing about that in terms of its themes, dynamics, character development, etc & just yapping about it just like a baby who thinks that if something isn't entertaining it's BAD 😶
"she puts a mask in front of everyone and tries to do more work to drown up every sadness she is feeling" x2
An edition oversight at 6:54
Yep, I noticed that way to late, my bad😭😭
EXURB1A REFERENCE!!! Hell yea man, glad to hear you perfectly incorporate a small snip of his into your vid, love your work too, will be subbing
WE NEED THAT VINLAND SAGA SEASON 3 ANNOUNCEMENT SO BADDDD
Vinland saga was the first anime and manga I ever watched and read, starting from when season 2 came out. Only a year and a half but just thinking back to how a piece of literature could make me tear up when Thorfinn being dragged away after trying to attack Canute, his look of despair as his entire life purpose dies at the hands of another, when usually I’d feel completely emotionless while reading anything, it makes me so happy that I got over the phase of thinking anime was for weirdos
Same bro, Vinland saga was like giving me my fix of lacking a decent Berserk adaptation
What do you mean!?!?!? A Berserk Adaptation is around the corner (I'm coping so hard rn)
Thank you brother!
Just doing what I can🫡
Just 8k subscribers WITH THIS LEVEL OF EDITING SHOULD BE A CRIME
Thank you man, I'm really just trying my best with every video
Honestly while im into a good amount of anime one of the things thats always bothered me is so many anime uae way too many monologues, exposition, things are explained not shown. The anime I tend to gravitate to are the ones that try to use subtlety and nuance, I feel a lot of anime struggles with those things
Interesting video. I’m planning to make a video about Vinland Saga in my language, and your video is so useful and inspiring❤
show and tell both can exist imo
very true, but some can do it better than the other
@@tyronsreduxhow about you change the frieren image to one when the show is telling because you have a pic of her crying lable as telling.
Last I checked crying is showing
@@eddieboston6540she cries and then immediately tells the audience why she is crying. “ I wish I took the time to get to know him better” she then explains that she will be more in touch with humans and understand them better because she feels she has nothing else to do. This was all said and explain by Frieren herself in ep1 so yes she quite literally tells us
@@ReyGarcia-z5r And? How is it «bad» in any terms? I get it if she's not show any emotion and instead just say this like «oh shit, i'm sad af» but in reality she's not. You know, people in real life also tell about they feelings when they sad, happy etc. «I hate this shit!», «God, this is so funny», «Wow, what a beautiful thing, i like it so much» -- i bet you hear people said this pretty often in real life. Saying «i wish i can know him better» after cried for you passed away friend is realistic and have nothing to do with bad storytelling. If you gonna nitpick that much then how about Vinland Saga? When Thorfin screams to Askellad «waaa, i'll kill you, waaa!» what is it if not «telling» instead of «showing»? Why he say that? Author thinks that we can't get his true feelings at that moment? But he's crying too just like Frieren did in her scene. Why is VS telling instead of showing?
I hope you get that i exaggerate on purpose just to show how absurd this «show, don't tell» bias can be sometimes. If we continue this way we might get to the point when all words in movies and shows are «bad storytelling» and «oh, character said "i'm tired", what a shitty writing, stop telling things and just show them». I get that now everybody in the internet are self proclaimed critics and know everything about writing, storytelling and directing better than anybody else but... that's not true. If you wanna actually see what «telling instead of showing» means i suggest you check Tensura S3. After that you might get the true meaning of cinematography golden rule which both Frieren and Vinland Saga executed almost perfectly.
@@ИванПетров-э8с4ш you know when the characters tell the audience something, its not that fuggin obvious right? She literally says what going on and that means the story is telling not showing. Ex: in the Mandalorian there is a scene where mando tells grogu all there is to know about a planet’s atmosphere, population etc. to let US the audience know what that planet is like wether its habitable etc. when the story is “telling” us something it does not mean that all characters immediately stop what they are doing and get into a nice professional setting and let us know the current events and why they are happening like its a meeting or sum. It can be indirect but its still telling not showing. Anime in general does this so its no surprise or shame that frieren does this
This shit relates to me
🥲
I have never heard Thors voice in the dub. It’s so goofy I feel like he’s gonna say “do you fuck with the war?”.
do you just not like Dubs?
@ I don’t usually watch dubbed, but most are better than this
@@donovanb8247 "I don't usually watch dubbed", ok, here's a solution, and I say this without being a dick. Instead of judging of a dub because you have only seen a few seconds of it, just watch the entire show and then you can critque the voice actors performance.
We eating good
I wanna watch this but I didn’t read the manga nor watch the anime 😭
Bro watch golden city of the scorching sun. It's peak despair
😭why would I traumatize myself with more Made in Abyss (I love Made in Abyss), you are a sick individual.
@@tyronsredux I thought you'd like to experience hell.
And also because it's just the greatest show ever made. I never finished it though, I couldn't. To much
This video is way too high quality to only have 20k views
BRO I NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL FIRST
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭
sorry buddy 😭 I hope you enjoyed the video when you watched it
Bro you bugging Twitter didn't turn you into a villain or something relax bruv
are you me sir?
@@tyronsreduxyour first problem was being on Twitter. 💀And it's not even that deep either lil bro.
fire ash
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I absolutely HATE the line "I have no enemies," because that implies enemies are one sided from only one personal point of view. Just because you don't call or recognize someone as an enemy, doesn't mean they aren't. Just ask anyone who's been poisoned by their loved ones or attacked on the street for no reason. I just hate that line. It's so remarkably short sighted and egocentric, but when you're that emotionally and intellectually repressed by a life of violence and hate, I guess anyone could lack the greater Freudian superego awareness of how others might see or experience the world and your place in it.
You just don't understand
You don't understand what he was saying he was saying you are not born to fight anyone that is never any of our purposes. That's why he said he had no enemies he has no one he was born to kill
It runs much deeper than that. It sounds like you need to read some Stoicism or the Buddhist Dhammapada. Other people can think of themselves as your enemy all they like, but by feeding into that game you will find yourself ceaselessly dragged into all manner of conflict and hatred. You'll never stand a chance of finding any real spiritual peace by letting others tell you if you should hate them or not.
bro are you in SA
yes sir!
South Africa? Howzit bru hoe gaan dit?
awe i can hear so @@tyronsredux
3:17 This happens a lot with video essays, how do you expect me to read and listen to other words at the same time brother. Please no more of this in future videos.
here is a genius solution for you my brother, listen, I'm about to blow your mind.
First, you pause the video, and then, you read. You are welcome
Whether you want to produce better videos or not, the choice is yours. 😊
Bro are you South African?
Yes I am
@tyronsredux ahh. I knew I recognised that accent✨
Fieren is shi
Rudeus is based
Didnt he rape a girl and cheated on his wife?
@@pianopp1Yea he touched a girls who he kidnap to see if it fix his limp dick they of course then starve on top of having them piss themselves because they broke a figure of Roxy who clothes could come off that Rudy made for some nerd.
This figure can be made in no time also the real Roxy is dealing with sexual harassment for some noble bart who we are supposed to dislike but we see Rudy doing far worse.