Thing is, it kinda makes sense canonically. The Jedi were almost entirely wiped out so all their knowledge on duelling would disappear, the only people left to train Luke were Kenobi, who was old and didn't have much time, and Yoda, also old and very small. By the time Luke would come across proper duelling techniques, he'd already be too proficient to change all that much. Him just swinging his saber makes perfect sense.
Dice really went all out on their BF2. Shame they dropped support for it when there was so much more they could add, especially when it comes to weapons and heroes.
Right?? In one of the interviews one of hte developers commented on how they were experimenting with "Dual" lightsaber heroes. We almost had Ahsoka and Ventress damnit!!
EA their parent company made them work on Battlefield 2042 so it wasn’t up to them however if it was we would probably get x5 if not x10 the amount of content
Ok I originally thought “that’s so cool” but as soon as I saw the anakin and dooku one, idk but I’m a little skeptical that some of if not most of these “lore parallels” might just be the devs reusing animations and base animations for each character
It's because there's certain forms of lightsaber combat just like with real-world fighting styles. So two people using the same form are going to swing their sabers in roughly the same way.
@@ClonedGamer001 think you missed the point of my comment, your explanation still falls under “lore parallels” as I mentioned earlier, lightsaber stances and forms are apart of lore that I was pointing out that they could have put off the potential workload for themselves by reusing base animation foundations, idk if I know what that is but it’s basically two different aniamtikns that look visually similar but different, but that’s because it only varies 2/4 to 3/4 of the way in the animation cycle, meaning less work is needed to be done and mocap and manual animation tweaking is far easier
@@BiggieJ4224 That's actually not how animation works. It's actually harder to blend an existing animation into a new one than it is to create a totally new one. With some of them like Anakin/Vader they just totally reused the animations, but for the ones where the swing pattern is vaguely similar but not exactly the same, they at most would have the same "skeleton" of animation (the super rigid A-to-B movement before any sort of realistic momentum or weight is added), but that's it.
@@ClonedGamer001 hmm, my knowledge is flawed no excuses there, guess my skepticism is an innate instinct, great talking with you man thanks for the insight
@@ClonedGamer001 that’s definitely not true. I would buy that explanation for something like facial animations but applying the same animations to characters using the same skeletal frame is a shortcut, not a hindrance
@@1812WarHawk yodas is "to hit the targe, jump I must" Mauls is basically his own thing since he was trained by sidious but he doesn't have a lightsaber and even if he did he'd only have either 1 or 2 not a double blade obviously As for grievous idk why they made him only swing his sabers horizontally especially when most of his attacks seen in either the shows or movies are primarily vertical
@@JamesMaund538 I'm talking about ingame I'm not blind I know palps has 2 lightsabers he shit all over savage and maul then wiped out almost the entire jedi council with 1
@@SolanaTan-diaz4828 thats exactly the reason, you’ll notice Vader can’t angle his arms above/over his shoulders but Anakin can, if Anakin hit his potential and got more experienced he would of broke Star Wars from being way to OP
But they didn’t reuse animations. The animations mirror each other, but they are different from each other. This took careful planning and a lot of work. Not just a copy/paste job. At least for the Anakin/Vader/Obi-Wan parallels. Dooku might have been a copy/paste.
Technically Leia trained Rey for about a year After The Last Jedi, but that's something we never see other than the little training course Rey Runs in TROS.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm yeah and Yoda struggled with rocks in attack of the clones. Rey didn’t show any strain at all, and she was still a newbie. Even Anakin, the literal chosen one, had his limitations and needed his entire adolescents to train his abilities to their peak potential. And he STILL didn’t reach that potential. Rey was just better at literally everything with next to no training. Made no sense whatsoever
@@skrublordnord69 I thought that the insinuation was that having thousands more force users in the galaxy, amongst other factors, was rendering Clone Wars-era Jedi much weaker than they should have been. And that Rey's powers are just how strong Jedi are _supposed_ to be.
Play it on PC with the mods. The mod community is doing what EA should be doing by adding in much more content to the game like more characters, skins, maps, etc. There are also dedicated servers that allow people to play fair without any hackers.
My tid bit in BF2 is that the Raider ship HQ used by Inferno Squadron gets its design and origin from a table top game called X-Wing Miniature Game. It was designed by Lucasfilm for FFG to use in their game to have something that could go toe to toe with a CR-90. Dice saw it and loved enough to make it the main HQ of Inferno Squadron, making it officially canon
This is only a "theory" because we don't have any hard evidence or testimony from the animators, just the circumstantial evidence of being able to very clearly see that this is exactly what they did. Probably because EA was screaming at them to rush the game out the door so they could get their Greed Kindling.
not a theory according to what I know yes lets look back at what happened the way Vader and Anakin swing their light saber and how their ability is totally comprehended and same as they look Vader swing is somewhat like had a prosthetic cybernetic limb which is hard for Vader/Anakin to move even he couldn't swing his lightsaber back in his days and not agile because the weight that Vader had his armor is due to the high pressure intense heat he was on System of Mustafar and he did use his Force to be agile and maneuver well in the battlefield unlike that Pre Anakin could do that and also remember Form 5 Ataru the style I see is Form 5 anakin use Form 6 while Obi Wanis form 3
"Luke trained Rey" No, he gave her two lessons on why she shouldn't be a Jedi (even though he promised three lessons), she swung the lightsaber around by herself, and then he kicked her off the island.
03:46 fun fact: The imperial shadow trooper appeared in The Force Unleashed game released in september of 2008, and before that in the Lego set 7667 'Imperial Dropship' earlier that same year.
This actually reminded me of the fight between dooku vs anikan and obi-wann, i believe in one of the animated clone wars episodes. But while dooku was fighting them he was forcing anikan to be on defense majority of the fight while forcing obi-wann to be on offense, the complete opposite of their styles. We already knew dooku was a master in combat but that scene just demonstrated exactly why he was such a powerful sith
I can never unsee that a DC-15 uses an upside down E-11 😅 Also, the scope issue can be explained away by saying that it is actually a camera optic. So the optic is actually linked to a camera rather than it being a telescope. I'm blanking on real life examples of this, but this is similar to the Magnum from Halo and the weapons of Mass Effect prior the third entry. Staggering when you consider most of these Star Wars weapons were designed in the 70's. Either this technology existed to a limited degree, or this is one big happy accident.
I noticed the lightsaber swing animations right away and made the connection of master to padawan instantly. Also father to son similarities in the moves
If you say so. If you're gonna carry two pistols, I say you should carry two pistols that do the job differently. Glock for squishies, Eagle for people who armour up.
With how we came to know that Vader's suit is painful to wear and restrict's Vader of his movements He was really still trying to pull off his original moves as Anakin, it's just more harder with the suit on.
The arc troopers are wearing the prototype phase 2 clone armour, which still has the comms fin on the top. At one point they were field testing it before it was finalized and went to the rest of the clone army
Not all gun sights need a lense on both ends. Early collimator sights (actually used on SW blaster props) worked on the "occluded eye" principle. As long as you keep both eyes open while aiming, it works fine.
I'm not even a part of the Battlefront community but your videos are great dude. Ever considered making content on other Star Wars games, or just other games in general? I know there's a few Star Wars games that are very "Battlefront-ish", could be cool to see how they compare and how things differ from the more popular Battlefront brand/games.
I think it would be awesome if they ever went back to add new content to EA BF2 if they changed some Hero ships to have customizations, at the very least change Yoda's Jedi Starfighter to just by default be "Jedi Starfighter" and allow you to change skins based on your favorite Jedi's fighter, even let you change the dialogue of who's talking when you fly it and make it available to have at least a couple people use it.
Ah back in the days when dice was actually good with little details. Now they just make call of duty clones. Hopefully Embark Studios is able to keep afloat on their first few projects.
Great video as always. Not gonna lie, I love Dennis - we owe so much to him for how amazing BF2015 and BF2017 are - but his comments on the Shadow Trooper being too similar to/redundant with the Death Trooper are so uncharacteristically wrong for him, and really couldn't be further from the truth. Their only similarity is that they both wear black armor. Other than that, everything about the two trooper types is completely different. Shadow Troopers are stealthy reconnaissance and infiltration units, while the Death Trooper is a bodyguard and enforcer unit. On top of that, the Shadow Trooper is basically a black Stormtrooper, with no additional gear, while the Death Troopers commonly have additional ammo pouches, grenade bandoliers, pauldrons, etc. On top of all this, the two units literally coexist perfectly in Battlefront 2015, and no one has ever complained about it. I have to think that he had to think of something to say to explain their absence from BF2, probably because the team just didn't have time to add them.
Id imagine the reason the resistance uses blue for their blaster bolts is because first order storm trooper armor is likely tuffer to get through so they need the extra power blue bolts provide.
In bf2015 you’d ads in first person down the length of the gun in a (point shooting stance for pistols) if the weapon didn’t have an optic. Wish they’d brought it back in bf2
Im such a nerd i noticed basically all of this invested 2k hours into that game. So fucking sad they never continued it. Hope we get the same team to make bf3
the reason most the lights saber animations were similar might be because of time and effort reason as making completely unique animations for each character would take long
@@exfedityi am an animator. they dont look reused, they are most certainly handcrafted bcause they use clearly distinct poses and they also switch hands in some cases so... yeah, they are not reused animations.
The shadow trooper not being included for being too similar to death troopers, I wonder if the devs ever considered making the shadow into a Death trooper skin
@@Not_Alan_Wake deathtroopers were added in the Rogue One update and not as their own unit. Only as bodyguard if someone was playing as Krennic. And the reason why Shadow weren’t in 2 because the devs thought they were too similar to DTs
I dont get why kylo has the same ones as anakin considering how he was never trained by him and he should be less experienced then luke and alot less experienced then republic era lightsaber combat
i'm not sure how much i believe them drawing parallels in the animations vs them just reusing animations. it's not bad if that's the case, just makes more sense to me.
While the similarities between vader and anakin are apparent and likely deliberate Most of the other shared moves were simply recycled with no deeper meaning on other characters, most of these similarities are a stretch at best
It's amazing how much attention to Star Wars detail they put into this, replicating the Star Wars universe so well! If only they could replicate a Battlefront game as well when they made a Battlefront game... {Ya I'm still salty about EA/DICE using Pandemic's SWB and SWB2 names to hype up EASWB and EASWB2 when they play completely differently.}
So not to sound like a nerd, but didn't Vadar have to change the way he fought with a loghtsaber due to his prosthetics? So the way he fought as Anakin should be vastly different than egregious he is Vadar. If I'm not mistaken that's in the canon, so this is really just a short cut by the devs.
@@Auvas_Damaskit's a type of lunge attack that happens when you swing a few times and then in middle of ur swinging you lunge onto an enemy idk exactly how many swings before you need to lunge
@@stiven355As I said, this also happens if you sprint while attacking. You can start the game and try it out yourself if you want, I know exactly it's true
i was with you until you said kylo ren is like dark side Anakin, he isnt lmao. fun fact in the OT George lucus actually had Hayden christinsian slow down is swing patterns when doing the choreography because he was worried that the sword fights would not look real. kylo Ren moves like a person is carrying a wooden trunk for a lightsaber.
BF2 with it's amazing detail cannot be understated. It is a tragedy how much heart went into this game when you really look at it, only for all of it to get buried by company greed.
Luke didn’t train Rey. She’s somehow better at everything because the writers said she is. Is it boring and lazy? Yes. Does that make it bad? Also yes.
I'll tell you one detail I didn't miss: predatory microtransactions that forced the community into a massive outrage until things have changed... And not even that much. Or are we pretending we forgot about that?
I remember watching an old behind the scenes video for Attack of the Clones, and the DC-15’s scope was meant to be able to be flipped around. The design for the rifle was a kitbash of some OT weapons, and it was settled upon for aesthetics alone, something I’m not too keen about.
“It’s crazy to see how much detail went into hero animations” - they literally just re used animations and pasted them onto other characters lol. Yeah.. crazy detail
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Ah, yes. The hidden lightsaber form: Base'bal-baat
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Thing is, it kinda makes sense canonically. The Jedi were almost entirely wiped out so all their knowledge on duelling would disappear, the only people left to train Luke were Kenobi, who was old and didn't have much time, and Yoda, also old and very small. By the time Luke would come across proper duelling techniques, he'd already be too proficient to change all that much.
Him just swinging his saber makes perfect sense.
@@notquiteshiny4172And people bitch on the sequels
@@notquiteshiny4172He was able to beat Darth Vader by just swinging his lightsaber wildly
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it 🤷🏿♂️😂
Dice really went all out on their BF2. Shame they dropped support for it when there was so much more they could add, especially when it comes to weapons and heroes.
Right?? In one of the interviews one of hte developers commented on how they were experimenting with "Dual" lightsaber heroes.
We almost had Ahsoka and Ventress damnit!!
@@FemboyTycoEA with their micro transactions definitely were a reason why we didn’t get them
@@johnnyknadler1157they wanted the entire dice staff that work on battlefront 2 to work on BF 2042, that’s why it was abandoned
EA their parent company made them work on Battlefield 2042 so it wasn’t up to them however if it was we would probably get x5 if not x10 the amount of content
That's an EA decision not dice
Ok I originally thought “that’s so cool” but as soon as I saw the anakin and dooku one, idk but I’m a little skeptical that some of if not most of these “lore parallels” might just be the devs reusing animations and base animations for each character
It's because there's certain forms of lightsaber combat just like with real-world fighting styles. So two people using the same form are going to swing their sabers in roughly the same way.
@@ClonedGamer001 think you missed the point of my comment, your explanation still falls under “lore parallels” as I mentioned earlier, lightsaber stances and forms are apart of lore that I was pointing out that they could have put off the potential workload for themselves by reusing base animation foundations, idk if I know what that is but it’s basically two different aniamtikns that look visually similar but different, but that’s because it only varies 2/4 to 3/4 of the way in the animation cycle, meaning less work is needed to be done and mocap and manual animation tweaking is far easier
@@BiggieJ4224 That's actually not how animation works. It's actually harder to blend an existing animation into a new one than it is to create a totally new one. With some of them like Anakin/Vader they just totally reused the animations, but for the ones where the swing pattern is vaguely similar but not exactly the same, they at most would have the same "skeleton" of animation (the super rigid A-to-B movement before any sort of realistic momentum or weight is added), but that's it.
@@ClonedGamer001 hmm, my knowledge is flawed no excuses there, guess my skepticism is an innate instinct, great talking with you man thanks for the insight
@@ClonedGamer001 that’s definitely not true. I would buy that explanation for something like facial animations but applying the same animations to characters using the same skeletal frame is a shortcut, not a hindrance
Basically every saber wielder in the game sharing animations between each other:
General Grievous: “Nah, imma do my own thing.”
Maul and Yodas are different
@@1812WarHawk yodas is "to hit the targe, jump I must"
Mauls is basically his own thing since he was trained by sidious but he doesn't have a lightsaber and even if he did he'd only have either 1 or 2 not a double blade obviously
As for grievous idk why they made him only swing his sabers horizontally especially when most of his attacks seen in either the shows or movies are primarily vertical
@@slayerofdarknssdmt9697 Sidious did have a lightsaber, we see it in episode 3 when he kills maul and the others when he was about to be arrested
@@JamesMaund538 I'm talking about ingame I'm not blind I know palps has 2 lightsabers he shit all over savage and maul then wiped out almost the entire jedi council with 1
so you play Battlefront 2 on PS4/PS5 but why without CUSA? It adds FOV and Ultra Graphics to the game (and way more PC settings). Sеаrch 'TNV CUSA'
I love that. Anakin has more flare where as Vader is straight to the point.
Anakin actually shares quite a few moves with Dooku as well as Vader.
it could also be the suit limiting vader's movement since it was designed to make him weaker
@@SolanaTan-diaz4828 thats exactly the reason, you’ll notice Vader can’t angle his arms above/over his shoulders but Anakin can, if Anakin hit his potential and got more experienced he would of broke Star Wars from being way to OP
❌ Re-using animations
✅ Hidden details
ikr... xD this vid stupid
But they didn’t reuse animations. The animations mirror each other, but they are different from each other. This took careful planning and a lot of work. Not just a copy/paste job. At least for the Anakin/Vader/Obi-Wan parallels. Dooku might have been a copy/paste.
“It’s all a matter of perspective”
- Obi Wan, probably
“Luke trained Rey” I think “trained” is used loosely here lol
*VERY* loosely.
Technically Leia trained Rey for about a year After The Last Jedi, but that's something we never see other than the little training course Rey Runs in TROS.
Didnt Rey already lift mountains before Leia "trained" her?
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm yeah and Yoda struggled with rocks in attack of the clones. Rey didn’t show any strain at all, and she was still a newbie. Even Anakin, the literal chosen one, had his limitations and needed his entire adolescents to train his abilities to their peak potential. And he STILL didn’t reach that potential.
Rey was just better at literally everything with next to no training. Made no sense whatsoever
@@skrublordnord69 I thought that the insinuation was that having thousands more force users in the galaxy, amongst other factors, was rendering Clone Wars-era Jedi much weaker than they should have been. And that Rey's powers are just how strong Jedi are _supposed_ to be.
2:23 now I can never un-see that 💀
I love looking back and focusing on all the smaller animation details in the new bf2
are you interested in receiving an upgrade to Battlefront 2 on Plауstation? it adds any FOV you want, ultra graphics, dolby audio and more
I still play battlefront 2 to this day. I play at least a few times a week. I still hate that they ended it so early 😭😭
me 2
Play it on PC with the mods. The mod community is doing what EA should be doing by adding in much more content to the game like more characters, skins, maps, etc. There are also dedicated servers that allow people to play fair without any hackers.
Or play squad with galactic contention mod
I see a cheater in every single match.
I have loved Star Wars all my life and been a nerd forever...I never realized DC-15 barrels were upside down E-11s
My tid bit in BF2 is that the Raider ship HQ used by Inferno Squadron gets its design and origin from a table top game called X-Wing Miniature Game. It was designed by Lucasfilm for FFG to use in their game to have something that could go toe to toe with a CR-90.
Dice saw it and loved enough to make it the main HQ of Inferno Squadron, making it officially canon
ALternate theory: They did not put any work into the animations but copied the already finished ones and just slightly altered them
This is only a "theory" because we don't have any hard evidence or testimony from the animators, just the circumstantial evidence of being able to very clearly see that this is exactly what they did. Probably because EA was screaming at them to rush the game out the door so they could get their Greed Kindling.
Considering the consistency I believe it was intentional
not a theory according to what I know yes lets look back at what happened the way Vader and Anakin swing their light saber and how their ability is totally comprehended and same as they look Vader swing is somewhat like had a prosthetic cybernetic limb which is hard for Vader/Anakin to move even he couldn't swing his lightsaber back in his days and not agile because the weight that Vader had his armor is due to the high pressure intense heat he was on System of Mustafar and he did use his Force to be agile and maneuver well in the battlefield unlike that Pre Anakin could do that and also remember Form 5 Ataru the style I see is Form 5 anakin use Form 6 while Obi Wanis form 3
"Luke trained Rey"
No, he gave her two lessons on why she shouldn't be a Jedi (even though he promised three lessons), she swung the lightsaber around by herself, and then he kicked her off the island.
yea, she trained herself by fighting off the sand dwelling rapists on Jakku
03:46 fun fact: The imperial shadow trooper appeared in The Force Unleashed game released in september of 2008, and before that in the Lego set 7667 'Imperial Dropship' earlier that same year.
Yeah that’s where I remember them from too, I loved their armor!
The video said introduced in canon
Force unleashed isn't canon
Same with toy legos
@@Alexgodofwar5662Lego toys are somewhat Canon.
@@moderndemon84Legos are definitely not Canon. Did you see the dark falcon set?
@@tuckergoodin7684 No.
Luke swinging: *Nobody says a word*
Rey and Kylo swinging: *Its a problem now, for some reason*
in films they put do much forse in hits it's laughable, luke just prefers slow swinging while fighting regular foes, against wader he swings fast
This actually reminded me of the fight between dooku vs anikan and obi-wann, i believe in one of the animated clone wars episodes. But while dooku was fighting them he was forcing anikan to be on defense majority of the fight while forcing obi-wann to be on offense, the complete opposite of their styles. We already knew dooku was a master in combat but that scene just demonstrated exactly why he was such a powerful sith
Star Wars Battlefront game series needs to be continued bro 🔥💯🔥❤️🔥💯🔥
I can never unsee that a DC-15 uses an upside down E-11 😅 Also, the scope issue can be explained away by saying that it is actually a camera optic. So the optic is actually linked to a camera rather than it being a telescope. I'm blanking on real life examples of this, but this is similar to the Magnum from Halo and the weapons of Mass Effect prior the third entry. Staggering when you consider most of these Star Wars weapons were designed in the 70's. Either this technology existed to a limited degree, or this is one big happy accident.
I thought it was where the grappling hook was stored
holy shit how have i never noticed this.
I can’t unsee it now either lol
Hey you got some good catches there. Good video. 👌
May the Force be with you.🙏
I noticed the lightsaber swing animations right away and made the connection of master to padawan instantly. Also father to son similarities in the moves
The glock and deagle combo is cursed and I love it, you better know Rex is dual welding those
If you say so. If you're gonna carry two pistols, I say you should carry two pistols that do the job differently. Glock for squishies, Eagle for people who armour up.
With how we came to know that Vader's suit is painful to wear and restrict's Vader of his movements
He was really still trying to pull off his original moves as Anakin, it's just more harder with the suit on.
1:20 this is why I don't like when they use blue bolts for "good guys" just to distinguish them from "bad guys" (like the new republic)
The arc troopers are wearing the prototype phase 2 clone armour, which still has the comms fin on the top. At one point they were field testing it before it was finalized and went to the rest of the clone army
Vaders animations being more defensive/less flashy is such a good touch since canonically he has to defend his life support system on his chest.
“Since he now has the high ground” lol
Love the cotent! More please!! Been playing since the originals.
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@@vollers.gaming ill check it out brother!
Just finished watching all of your Star wars videos gotta say nicely done keep up the work and good luck
0:38 something else I just realized is that they both kick at some point in their attacks
Not all gun sights need a lense on both ends.
Early collimator sights (actually used on SW blaster props) worked on the "occluded eye" principle. As long as you keep both eyes open while aiming, it works fine.
0:45 That’s not a bad way of putting it.
This game is amazing I wish Dice was given more support for this game
Han Solos gun looks a lot like the C96 Mauser.
Just with a scope and a different barrel.
I'm not even a part of the Battlefront community but your videos are great dude. Ever considered making content on other Star Wars games, or just other games in general? I know there's a few Star Wars games that are very "Battlefront-ish", could be cool to see how they compare and how things differ from the more popular Battlefront brand/games.
I think it would be awesome if they ever went back to add new content to EA BF2 if they changed some Hero ships to have customizations, at the very least change Yoda's Jedi Starfighter to just by default be "Jedi Starfighter" and allow you to change skins based on your favorite Jedi's fighter, even let you change the dialogue of who's talking when you fly it and make it available to have at least a couple people use it.
Ah back in the days when dice was actually good with little details. Now they just make call of duty clones.
Hopefully Embark Studios is able to keep afloat on their first few projects.
Great video as always. Not gonna lie, I love Dennis - we owe so much to him for how amazing BF2015 and BF2017 are - but his comments on the Shadow Trooper being too similar to/redundant with the Death Trooper are so uncharacteristically wrong for him, and really couldn't be further from the truth. Their only similarity is that they both wear black armor. Other than that, everything about the two trooper types is completely different. Shadow Troopers are stealthy reconnaissance and infiltration units, while the Death Trooper is a bodyguard and enforcer unit. On top of that, the Shadow Trooper is basically a black Stormtrooper, with no additional gear, while the Death Troopers commonly have additional ammo pouches, grenade bandoliers, pauldrons, etc. On top of all this, the two units literally coexist perfectly in Battlefront 2015, and no one has ever complained about it. I have to think that he had to think of something to say to explain their absence from BF2, probably because the team just didn't have time to add them.
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The default sniper for the resistance is a combo of a Luger P08 and other rifle bits lol.
Id imagine the reason the resistance uses blue for their blaster bolts is because first order storm trooper armor is likely tuffer to get through so they need the extra power blue bolts provide.
… Luke didn’t train Rey. “Actually trained”, all he did was poke her with a plant and told her to go away.
In bf2015 you’d ads in first person down the length of the gun in a (point shooting stance for pistols) if the weapon didn’t have an optic. Wish they’d brought it back in bf2
Shadow troopers existed prior to battlefront 1 as lego had q set with one back in the earlier 2000s
2016 BF was the first time they appeared in media after the buyout.
Didn't know that about blaster color!
Im such a nerd i noticed basically all of this invested 2k hours into that game. So fucking sad they never continued it. Hope we get the same team to make bf3
Now if only the brought the game back from the death, the skeleton crew can't keep up.
the reason most the lights saber animations were similar might be because of time and effort reason as making completely unique animations for each character would take long
Long, yeah, like 1-2 hours
@@Sedobr u a game developer?
@@exfedityi am an animator. they dont look reused, they are most certainly handcrafted bcause they use clearly distinct poses and they also switch hands in some cases so... yeah, they are not reused animations.
I stil hope there will be a new game for next gen with a long life support with new characters and updates. Fun season passes. It could live for ages
Yellow Blaster Bolts are non lethal? Haha Mandalorians start blasting!
Oh yeah, I almost forgot about Yellow blaster bolts from Mandalorian guns
They wish not to harm their clone brothers
They're more yellowish, Orange is training blasters
god i miss this game
"Dooku was just as much of a teacher as Obi-wan to Anakin." have you never watched star wars?
The new republic probably uses them because Disney went “oooOOOOOOOhhh rEd Is BaD and BlUe iS gOoD”
Well, Lucas thinks the same way when he was making the OT
@@attyoma8226 that’s for lightsabers tho
the similar animations were in part also due to the rushed nature of Battlefront 2. Launch Obi-Wan had almost identical animation with Luke
NR used blue because the writers were thinking (blue=good republic red=bad empire
The shadow trooper not being included for being too similar to death troopers, I wonder if the devs ever considered making the shadow into a Death trooper skin
I mean, they both are in the first game tho
@@Not_Alan_Wake deathtroopers were added in the Rogue One update and not as their own unit. Only as bodyguard if someone was playing as Krennic. And the reason why Shadow weren’t in 2 because the devs thought they were too similar to DTs
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px How similar they really are ? Besides the black color everything is different from one to another
I dont get why kylo has the same ones as anakin considering how he was never trained by him and he should be less experienced then luke and alot less experienced then republic era lightsaber combat
Is it weird that I put the blue on the arc trooper and just use him as a cap Rex hero
i'm not sure how much i believe them drawing parallels in the animations vs them just reusing animations. it's not bad if that's the case, just makes more sense to me.
Anakin uses too much Form 2 in the game, many of his moves are shared with Dooku
Man this game is just so good. A shame they had to abandon it to focus on Battlefield 2042.
The Resistance’s blue blaster bolts are just blue regular bolts not ion shots.
You they're not actually real, right?
@@dominiccrimmings6925 Yes. I’m talking about in-universe. Obviously.
You're an underappreciated goat
1:22 I thought the color of the blaster bolt helped you to distinguish which side shot what or killed who and so on and so forth
Keep em coming
While the similarities between vader and anakin are apparent and likely deliberate
Most of the other shared moves were simply recycled with no deeper meaning on other characters, most of these similarities are a stretch at best
vader has slower and shorter swing than anakin, as logic is.
Shadow troopers also existed in Star Wars Jedi Knight 2, but they wielded lightsabers and they would brutalize you
It's amazing how much attention to Star Wars detail they put into this, replicating the Star Wars universe so well!
If only they could replicate a Battlefront game as well when they made a Battlefront game...
{Ya I'm still salty about EA/DICE using Pandemic's SWB and SWB2 names to hype up EASWB and EASWB2 when they play completely differently.}
Decent game 🔥
Guess it took this long to unlock and compare all the different Jedis and Siths
Luke didn’t “train” Rey. He just told her to swing her blade like a stupid little child and she cut a rock and almost fell off a cliff.
Darth Vader should have other fighting style like in canon (his suit limited his movement so he was forced to change it)
Yeah totally didn't know that. Dev's totally didn't tell us this when he released.
I think Kylo trying to be like anakin
And yellow shots in blasters? Which is their quality?
So do ion shots kill droids faster than an unmodded shot would in the game? Essentially does blue kill battledroids quicker than red?
The glazing is unreal
So not to sound like a nerd, but didn't Vadar have to change the way he fought with a loghtsaber due to his prosthetics? So the way he fought as Anakin should be vastly different than egregious he is Vadar. If I'm not mistaken that's in the canon, so this is really just a short cut by the devs.
Holdon, how did you get anakin to do his signature move in BF2? in 0:28
Run. All heroes have additional attacks when running
@@Auvas_Damaskit's a type of lunge attack that happens when you swing a few times and then in middle of ur swinging you lunge onto an enemy idk exactly how many swings before you need to lunge
@@stiven355As I said, this also happens if you sprint while attacking. You can start the game and try it out yourself if you want, I know exactly it's true
i was with you until you said kylo ren is like dark side Anakin, he isnt lmao. fun fact in the OT George lucus actually had Hayden christinsian slow down is swing patterns when doing the choreography because he was worried that the sword fights would not look real. kylo Ren moves like a person is carrying a wooden trunk for a lightsaber.
I miss bf1 stormtrooper skins
Hey, I’m just curious what is everyone’s battlefront 2 mains, mines the heavy class
Oh yes, we are the backup of the clones on the dreadnought
For standard units I mained Heavy. For reinforcements I mained the ARC trooper and Clone Commando
@@invaderIRK1I definitely recommend the heavy's ion missiles against tanks, way too underestimated
@@Auvas_Damask yea, i always kept the ion missile on my kit, along with the grenade launchers
@@invaderIRK1 👍
Animator: reuses animations to save time
Some TH-cam guy few years later:
almost as if anakin and vader are the same person!
Still the best Star Wars game ever made!
I wish it would've been similar to Pandemic's version
Laughs in kotor 2*
@@MattPappLaughs in Survivor
Not even close.
@@Auvas_Damask laughs in Survivor too
Never got my fucking jango fett
Luke didn't trained Rey, she trained herself.
BF2 with it's amazing detail cannot be understated. It is a tragedy how much heart went into this game when you really look at it, only for all of it to get buried by company greed.
1:20 this blaster is base on a ww2 mg the mg15
Always thought of lightsabers having rounded tips, and the sharp being weird. Like those in the animated series look WAY too sharp IMO
Rounded tips is my canon, I think they look better overall
I like the pointed tips best, more sword like lol
They’re light*sabers*, not lightclubs.
I still play regularly
orange non lethal? bt i saw the mandalorians using it in real fights i clone wars or somewhere
Mandalorians used yellow blaster bolts.
Luke didn’t train Rey. She’s somehow better at everything because the writers said she is. Is it boring and lazy? Yes. Does that make it bad? Also yes.
"crazy to see how much detail they put into hero animation" My man they're just recycling animations 💀💀💀
Same what I thought
Guys what do you mean? Star Wars battlefront 2 has just begun and the very warz rage on!!!!
I'll tell you one detail I didn't miss: predatory microtransactions that forced the community into a massive outrage until things have changed... And not even that much.
Or are we pretending we forgot about that?
How can we forget? Nobody ever stopped whining about them even after the game lost support.
I remember watching an old behind the scenes video for Attack of the Clones, and the DC-15’s scope was meant to be able to be flipped around. The design for the rifle was a kitbash of some OT weapons, and it was settled upon for aesthetics alone, something I’m not too keen about.
“It’s crazy to see how much detail went into hero animations” - they literally just re used animations and pasted them onto other characters lol. Yeah.. crazy detail
Can you help me and let me know why Anikan, obi want, duko and grievous are greyed out on my charachters select screen please can you help me. Stay safe and well from Dublin ireland. Great video by the way.