Theres a subspecies of ogryn from a specific planet that is banned from being recruited/deployed beyond a single squad as an individual one can rip a battle tank apart with his hands.
Lion El'Johnson: "Brothers. My heart is heavy, but I must confess. I and my chapter have spent ten thousand years pursuing members of our chapter fallen to chaos. We have spent human lives by the millions chasing mere rumors of them." (pause) Gabriel Angelos: "Yeah dude, we know." LEJ: "What?! For how long?" GA: "Personally? Like, a couple hundred years, but my Chapter's records mention it from at least 8 millenia ago" Marneus Calgar: "Eighty years after the Heresy for us. We knew then. And you owe me, Helbrecht. I said he'd tell us before the year was out." (the Marshal waves off Calgar) LEJ: "But... Why?! Why let us continue our pursuit, thinking it was private and shameful?" Logan Grimnar: "Because by all accounts you lot mellowed out after you realized some had fallen. Rather you skulked in shadows and wrote bad poetry but were decent to be around. If you think you can keep it level, pursue them openly. It's a new millennium after all."
The absolute worst offender when it comes to closed-loop time travel is the movie Predestination, starring Ethan Hawke. It’s just terrible and I wish I hadn’t watched it.
There's debate IIRC. Usually, marines are considered sterile, to prevent them from multiplying. However, Space Wolves either fuck or brag about fucking and the Salamanders specifically are encouraged to keep in contact with their families, wives, children, so as to not lose their connection to humanity. I think the answer is probably, can't make babies, usually disciplined not to engage in the act, maybe some can still do it and probably most have the urge indoctrinated out of them.
They can't reproduce and are with a few exceptions discouraged from having sex They however still can See the fall of fulgrim that is still cannon where a group of his astatries gangbang him basically to death
Plenty of folks here already know this, but Dark Angels were inspired by a poem called "Dark Angel" by a poet called Lionel Johnson. It basically dealt with the author feeling bad about his repressed homosexuality. His Dark Angel being a big sexy man who Lionel, being in a homophobic culture, couldn't be with. His big secret he has to hide. I sorta wish they'd just gone with "Our Primarch Likes Men" as their big dark secret. But, I dunno, I fear a lot of the 40k player base even all these years on harbours the very same homophobia Lionel Johnson feared.
The Dark Angel DARK Angel, with thine aching lust To rid the world of penitence: Malicious Angel, who still dost My soul such subtile violence! Because of thee, no thought, no thing, Abides for me undesecrate: Dark Angel, ever on the wing, Who never reachest me too late! When music sounds, then changest thou Its silvery to a sultry fire: Nor will thine envious heart allow Delight untortured by desire. Through thee, the gracious Muses turn, To Furies, O mine Enemy! And all the things of beauty burn With flames of evil ecstasy. Because of thee, the land of dreams Becomes a gathering place of fears: Until tormented slumber seems One vehemence of useless tears. When sunlight glows upon the flowers, Or ripples down the dancing sea: Thou, with thy troop of passionate powers, Beleaguerest, bewilderest, me. Within the breath of autumn woods, Within the winter silences: Thy venomous spirit stirs and broods, O Master of impieties! The ardour of red flame is thine, And thine the steely soul of ice: Thou poisonest the fair design Of nature, with unfair device. Apples of ashes, golden bright; Waters of bitterness, how sweet! O banquet of a foul delight, Prepared by thee, dark Paraclete! Thou art the whisper in the gloom, The hinting tone, the haunting laugh: Thou art the adorner of my tomb, The minstrel of mine epitaph. I fight thee, in the Holy Name! Yet, what thou dost, is what God saith: Tempter! should I escape thy flame, Thou wilt have helped my soul from Death: The second Death, that never dies, That cannot die, when time is dead: Live Death, wherein the lost soul cries, Eternally uncomforted. Dark Angel, with thine aching lust! Of two defeats, of two despairs: Less dread, a change to drifting dust, Than thine eternity of cares. Do what thou wilt, thou shalt not so, Dark Angel! triumph over me: Lonely, unto the Lone I go; Divine, to the Divinity.
if it you retconned it to that the dark angels would be less interesting. romantic relationships are not a big part of 40k either whereas corruption is a big part of the universe.
@@westhawk7259 I see your point, though equally, like Tom and Ben say, "We had some marines turn to Chaos" is like... OK...? And...? Every chapter has that. It's not unique enough. I mean, the Blood Angels are angst vampires, the Space Wolves are Furries. The Dark Angels, their big damn super secret is, some turned to Chaos. Woop. Big woop. At the very least, I liked the old fan theory that the fallen were secretly the actual Loyalists. That at least was something. Wouldn't necessarily make a lick of sense, but it _would_ have been _something._
@@bushybeardedbear some fallen are loyalist they're now called rizen I think and they're with the lion. If I remember correctly they had the most out of the loyalists legions turn traitor and its a stain on them which is why they lie and murder so much
@@westhawk7259 Not what I meant. I meant, the old fan theory was that the schism in the Dark Angels was that the ones who "stayed loyal" secretly turned to Chaos and "the fallen" were a victim of a smear campaign but were secretly always loyal. Again, wouldn't necessarily have made sense, but it could have been fun.
He’s complaining about the Arks of Omen and Chaos actually getting a win? Haven’t read them personally, but from everything I’ve heard, that is a garbage take
Isn't the best 40K lore tidbit that the god emperor's name is Jimmy Space?
If Kremlo came from Space, and the Emperor is Jimmy Space, is Kremlo one of the two missing Primarchs...?
Crabnos of course is the other one.
Lion El Jhonson: " Dear Brother I just came back from Ultramar why do your Astartes have seggs slav'?"
Girlyman : "THE BOOK TIS IN THE BOOK BROTHER!"
Right here on the sticky pages!
Best tidbit:
There is an Ork type of music where one Ork stands in a canyon hitting two rocks together, and it is called rock/rokk.
The land raider. Not because it raids on the land. Because it was discovered by goddamn arkhan land.
Theres a subspecies of ogryn from a specific planet that is banned from being recruited/deployed beyond a single squad as an individual one can rip a battle tank apart with his hands.
Lion El'Johnson: "Brothers. My heart is heavy, but I must confess. I and my chapter have spent ten thousand years pursuing members of our chapter fallen to chaos. We have spent human lives by the millions chasing mere rumors of them."
(pause)
Gabriel Angelos: "Yeah dude, we know."
LEJ: "What?! For how long?"
GA: "Personally? Like, a couple hundred years, but my Chapter's records mention it from at least 8 millenia ago"
Marneus Calgar: "Eighty years after the Heresy for us. We knew then. And you owe me, Helbrecht. I said he'd tell us before the year was out."
(the Marshal waves off Calgar)
LEJ: "But... Why?! Why let us continue our pursuit, thinking it was private and shameful?"
Logan Grimnar: "Because by all accounts you lot mellowed out after you realized some had fallen. Rather you skulked in shadows and wrote bad poetry but were decent to be around. If you think you can keep it level, pursue them openly. It's a new millennium after all."
The absolute worst offender when it comes to closed-loop time travel is the movie Predestination, starring Ethan Hawke. It’s just terrible and I wish I hadn’t watched it.
all ben has to do is right click the tab and click reopen closed tab until tom's tab returns.
This video is Luther propaganda, The Lion himself said that the bombardment physically couldn’t have ripped caliban apart.
Wait can’t space marines not have sex?
There's debate IIRC. Usually, marines are considered sterile, to prevent them from multiplying. However, Space Wolves either fuck or brag about fucking and the Salamanders specifically are encouraged to keep in contact with their families, wives, children, so as to not lose their connection to humanity.
I think the answer is probably, can't make babies, usually disciplined not to engage in the act, maybe some can still do it and probably most have the urge indoctrinated out of them.
They can't reproduce and are with a few exceptions discouraged from having sex
They however still can
See the fall of fulgrim that is still cannon where a group of his astatries gangbang him basically to death
Plenty of folks here already know this, but Dark Angels were inspired by a poem called "Dark Angel" by a poet called Lionel Johnson.
It basically dealt with the author feeling bad about his repressed homosexuality. His Dark Angel being a big sexy man who Lionel, being in a homophobic culture, couldn't be with. His big secret he has to hide.
I sorta wish they'd just gone with "Our Primarch Likes Men" as their big dark secret. But, I dunno, I fear a lot of the 40k player base even all these years on harbours the very same homophobia Lionel Johnson feared.
The Dark Angel
DARK Angel, with thine aching lust
To rid the world of penitence:
Malicious Angel, who still dost
My soul such subtile violence!
Because of thee, no thought, no thing,
Abides for me undesecrate:
Dark Angel, ever on the wing,
Who never reachest me too late!
When music sounds, then changest thou
Its silvery to a sultry fire:
Nor will thine envious heart allow
Delight untortured by desire.
Through thee, the gracious Muses turn,
To Furies, O mine Enemy!
And all the things of beauty burn
With flames of evil ecstasy.
Because of thee, the land of dreams
Becomes a gathering place of fears:
Until tormented slumber seems
One vehemence of useless tears.
When sunlight glows upon the flowers,
Or ripples down the dancing sea:
Thou, with thy troop of passionate powers,
Beleaguerest, bewilderest, me.
Within the breath of autumn woods,
Within the winter silences:
Thy venomous spirit stirs and broods,
O Master of impieties!
The ardour of red flame is thine,
And thine the steely soul of ice:
Thou poisonest the fair design
Of nature, with unfair device.
Apples of ashes, golden bright;
Waters of bitterness, how sweet!
O banquet of a foul delight,
Prepared by thee, dark Paraclete!
Thou art the whisper in the gloom,
The hinting tone, the haunting laugh:
Thou art the adorner of my tomb,
The minstrel of mine epitaph.
I fight thee, in the Holy Name!
Yet, what thou dost, is what God saith:
Tempter! should I escape thy flame,
Thou wilt have helped my soul from Death:
The second Death, that never dies,
That cannot die, when time is dead:
Live Death, wherein the lost soul cries,
Eternally uncomforted.
Dark Angel, with thine aching lust!
Of two defeats, of two despairs:
Less dread, a change to drifting dust,
Than thine eternity of cares.
Do what thou wilt, thou shalt not so,
Dark Angel! triumph over me:
Lonely, unto the Lone I go;
Divine, to the Divinity.
if it you retconned it to that the dark angels would be less interesting. romantic relationships are not a big part of 40k either whereas corruption is a big part of the universe.
@@westhawk7259 I see your point, though equally, like Tom and Ben say, "We had some marines turn to Chaos" is like... OK...? And...? Every chapter has that. It's not unique enough. I mean, the Blood Angels are angst vampires, the Space Wolves are Furries. The Dark Angels, their big damn super secret is, some turned to Chaos. Woop. Big woop.
At the very least, I liked the old fan theory that the fallen were secretly the actual Loyalists. That at least was something. Wouldn't necessarily make a lick of sense, but it _would_ have been _something._
@@bushybeardedbear some fallen are loyalist they're now called rizen I think and they're with the lion. If I remember correctly they had the most out of the loyalists legions turn traitor and its a stain on them which is why they lie and murder so much
@@westhawk7259 Not what I meant. I meant, the old fan theory was that the schism in the Dark Angels was that the ones who "stayed loyal" secretly turned to Chaos and "the fallen" were a victim of a smear campaign but were secretly always loyal.
Again, wouldn't necessarily have made sense, but it could have been fun.
No audio?
He’s complaining about the Arks of Omen and Chaos actually getting a win?
Haven’t read them personally, but from everything I’ve heard, that is a garbage take