To owners of the SFF (Small Form Factor) model of the HP Compaq Elite 8300 computer: These machines (and I believe the other SFF models of the 8000 series, i.e. 8100, 8200, etc.) utilize a rare PSU (Power Supply Unit) form factor of CFX. The only CFX power supplies I have found are all 240W and are light weight for most graphics cards. The number of low profile graphics cards that will fit into the SFF machine have increased considerably in the past few years. In addition to half height profile, you must check the card length against the space from the rear of your machine to the taller components towards the front. If the card is half height and not too long to interfere with other machine components, you can install it. However, power is another matter. While some lower power graphics cards will work with the stock 240W power supply, if the card has a separate power connector or draws too much power, it is not an option for the stock PSU. Fortunately, a PSU upgrade is possible, but requires a non-standard installation of a higher power PSU that will physically fit in the computer case even though not designed to do so. Two other PSU form factors may fit into the space taken by your existing PSU. The narrow portion of the PSU case location, which is deep and tall enough to accommodate a non-standard PSU, is approximately 100mm wide and 85mm tall. Common ATX and SFX PSUs will not fit in this space. The Flex-ATX form factor power supply is 81.5mm wide and only 40.5mm tall, so it will easily fit in the space, even if there is a secondary hard drive immediately in front of it. These PSUs are available with up to at least 350W. The other possible form factor is TFX. These PSUs are 85mm wide and 65mm tall, so they also will fit in your machine, but not if you have a 3.5” secondary hard drive immediately in front of it in the secondary hard drive location (the problem is that the TFX PSU will need to sit on top of the secondary hard drive, causing the top of the PSU to interfere with the top cover of the computer case). TFX PSUs are available in capacity of up to at least 500W. Depending on the height of its mounting hardware, a 2.5” secondary hard drive may be short enough to permit a TFX PSU to sit above it and not interfere with the top cover. However, neither of these form factor PSUs have the ability to physically mount into your case like your existing unusually shaped CFX PSU. The simple solution is to mount the new PSU with double faced tape to secure it in place. The next issue is connecting the new PSU to the motherboard and peripherals. Most Flex-ATX and TFX PSUs come with a 24pin or 20/4pin connector, a 4pin CPU power connector and some array of 4pin Molex, SATA and floppy drive power connectors. None I have seen have the KF2510-6P female plug found on your PSU. Also, these PSUs provide the now standard +5vsb (standby), not the +12vsb required by your motherboard. Fortunately, many sources provide an adapter cable that plugs into the new PSU's 24pin or 20/4pin connector and provides the 6pin main power plug and the KF2510-6P plug required by your motherboard. An eBay search for "ATX 6pin 2port supply cable" will bring up a host of sources for this adapter, which includes a DC voltage converter that converts the new PSU's +5vsb to the +12vsb you need. The new PSU's 4pin CPU (Central Processing Unit) power connector is connected to the motherboard at the same location as was the identical plug from your original PSU. However, the flat 6 pin in-line KF2510-6P female connector on many of these adapters is not wired correctly for the HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF machine. Looking at the wire end of the connector with the raised guides pointing up and the rectangular holes facing down, the left most wire position is Pin 1 and the right most wire position is Pin 6. The adapter has 4 wires going to this connector of various colors. Because they are not standard, the wire colors are not important, just the Pin numbers of the 24 Pin receptacle and the KF2510-6P connector they run between. One wire connects to Pin 16 of the 24 Pin receptacle, the PS_ON or Power Supply On pin. The other end of this wire should go to Pin 3 of the KF2510-6P connector (the same location as the green wire on the original power supply connector). The wire that connects to Pin 8 of the 24 Pin receptacle (the PS_OK or Power Supply OK or Power supply Good pin) should connect to Pin 4 of the KF2510-6P connector (the same location as the grey wire on the original power supply connector). The other two wires connected to Pins 17 and 18 of the 24 Pin receptacle (or any other ground pins) should go to Pins 5 and 6 of the KF2510-6P connector. These locations have no wires connected on the original power supply connector. If the wires on your adapter are not connected correctly to the KF2510-6P plug, move the wires to the correct locations described above. To remove a wire from the plug, place a needle or other small pointed object like a toothpick gently into the small rectangular hole on the plug at the location of the wire you wish to remove. Press the needle gently inward and upward to release the metal wire connector and pull the wire and connector out of the plug. If the tiny tab on the metal connector is no longer bent away from the body of the connector, use the needle to push it out slightly so it will snap into the rectangular hole at the new wire location into which it will be placed. With just this adapter, correctly wired, your computer will work with your new PSU. The drive power connectors from the new PSU can be connected directly to your drives, replacing the cable currently connecting your motherboard to the drives' power connectors. Not only does this reduce the current flowing through the motherboard, it also eliminates much of the +12v to +5v conversion currently performed by your motherboard with the original PSU. One minor disadvantage of this PSU upgrade is that your computer will seek a "PSU fan on" signal when it boots. Since Flex-ATX and TFX PSUs do not provide this signal, you will get a 515 error message (Power Supply fan not detected) during the boot. Just follow the screen instruction to ignore this false warning by pressing F1 and the boot will continue. This error can be avoided by connecting your CPU cooling fan to Pin 2 of the KF2510-6P PSU adapter connector (the same location as the white wire on the original CPU plug). This requires adding a 5th wire to the KF2510--6P connector on the adapter. Snap-in crimp connectors for this additional wire come with any KF2510 female connector, so you can buy a KF2510-2P plug and use one of its 2 crimp connectors for the new wire on the PSU adapter plug, leaving the Pin 1 location empty (the same location as the white with red stripe wire on the original PSU connector). The other end of the new wire is connected to the TAC or SENSE lead of your CPU cooling fan by spicing it to the appropriate fan power plug lead. This lead is usually a green wire but in any event it is the wire that connects to the #3 pin of the fan power connector which is the second closest to the side of the cabinet. With this arrangement, upon booting your motherboard sees the TAC or SENSE signal from your CPU cooling fan and reads it as coming from your always on new PSU fan, thus avoiding the false boot error entirely. While this upgrade may appear intimidating, it really is not very difficult. Due to engineering changes by HP, I cannot guarantee this will work with your machine and like always, you proceed at your own risk. I did it with a 500W TFX PSU in my HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF machine to support a new graphics card and future peripherals and it works very well. My hard drive is a single 2.5" Solid State mounted in the main hard drive location below the DVD drive, so there is no drive immediately in front of the new power supply in the secondary hard drive location, allowing me to install the TFX profile PSU without interference. Good luck!!!
Love this video. Everything worked great for me. I bought an adapter from Amazon instead of making my own. Never would have tried it if not for this video. Thanks so much!!
@@jotajsmoint To be clear the Hp 8200 is a business commercial PC. It has a proprietary 320 watt power supply. Using a molex adapter to 6 or 8 pin, using a hard drive sata power connector works with the 1060 as it rarely needs more than 75 watts from the pcei slot. Weak but cheap! Paid $50 used for the pc. Edit, Forgot to say it has a i7 2600 with 16 gb ram. But it does serve as a work and play machine. It runs lots of games at 1080 fine. Example; Runs World of tanks at 120fps on ultra. I do use 2 other modern gaming rigs with Gtx 3060 12 gb cards with i10 12900 chips. Hope that helps.
@@jotajsmoint if you use a Hp 8200 it will not work. But a pc that allows the power supply to be upgraded or changed, then yes. 500+ Watt psu or more would operate the 2060 safely.
Thanks for posting this. This gives me hope. I have a similar system to the 8200. Without thinking I bought a gtx 1080 graphics card and a new power supply without looking at the connections. Went to install the power supply and was a little confused at what I saw. Anyways long story short. This is the perfect instructions I've been searching for.
I have a 8100 elite. Core i7, graphics card, pci express cards, ssd (2), etc.. No problems with 240 watt power supply. The components are actually of high quality. Cudos to HP on that. Better than the junk components that are being sold now.
Thank you for this video. My son' s PC died a couple of weeks ago. I suspect the PS, so I just ordered this test device online. I expected it to be expensive, well it was only $8, though I've seen it for $22 by other suplliers.
Thanks for a great video. I found it the other day while trying to figure out the best way to upgrade my pastors' computer (HP 8200 Elite) so they can run ProPresenter7. The new GPU required at least 500W (AMD Radeon RX 580 8Gb). This video, combined with another regarding the purchased adapter, made the difference in figuring out the pinning and voltages. Actually, this board's P2 connector had a different pin-out than any wiring diagram I was able to find. Typical HP I guess... can't even be consistent within the model series... But at last I knew what voltages to expect and could test everything with my multimeter before plugging in to the motherboard. Great job!
I used this for the HP 800 g1 TWR, and hp elite 8300 cmt. I got my adapter on Amazon. It had the black red yellow and green wires. I put the black wire in pin 6. Red in 5. Yellow in 4. Green in three. I kept getting the four beep error. After about three hours and nearly destroying the machine with a hammer I realized I forgot to plug in the cpu power cable from the new psu to the motherboard!!! I'm glad it worked out and for any one reading this in future these two models work with the pin arrangement I just listed but don't forget the cpu power!
Sure. a.co/71XfOF6 Check out the review by "Joe" in the bottom I've detailed how to re pin the wires, it's like a 1 minute job. Let me know if you have any questions when you get it.
According to my earlier reply, there are adapter cables available on Amazon that will work but they require switching a couple wires on one of the plugs. The maker of the TH-cam Video I linked to previously was the one that sold the adapter cables for the 8200. They work with no rewiring required. I think he is in the UK.
not really there are people who sell cables for cheap and they did pretty much what he did in the video. Its easy on the wallet and easy in general. Just plug in the wires and go. www.ebay.com/itm/30cm-24-Pin-to-6-Pin-Power-Supply-Adapter-Cable-for-HP-Elite-8100-8200-8300-800G/174216539249?hash=item28901d6c71:g:HDIAAOSwS~tevN-1
This is an another standard which is ATX12V (used mostly in servers). As alternate solution server PSU can be connected without 12VSB-booster (for example HSTNS-PL18). If you do not need COM, LPT, PCI then -12V is not necessary.
HP DC 7100 , PSU in mine was originally fitted with only a 200 Watt PSU , this PSU has 5 volt standby , - 12 volt/400 milliamp white wire , also has a funky red and white wire, both wires used to allow green wire signal to activate through from mother board , also in the proprietary header mixup a grey wire. I made a hack up power up comparator control board eliminating the -12v but utilizing the red and white wire , moved green wire to comparator lm 393 output and added a dioded pull down wire from the power on button the purple wire is LM 393 vcc and 2.5v comparator input reference, the deviating by 7 millivolt red and white goes to LM 393 input latching green wire output to on until windows XP power down occurs . Please excuse if I've repeated/ commented here before.
Great video. I had been looking through the diagrams which you showed and this make it very clear now. After failing to get the standard PSU working on my 8200, I simply decided to run both of the PSU's. This worked, but later I ended up downclocking/downvolting my gpu and that put me under the 240watt limit, eliminating the need for the second PSU. Now I just run the stock PSU and everything has been great ever since. My 2600 bottlenecks my gpu in the games/setting I play anyway, so figured the downclock didn't even matter in the end.
Splice the green wire (pwr on signal) of your main PSU to the green wire on the secondary psu. Here's an adapter in case you don't want to splice it, www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-24-Pin-Mining-Adapter-AC-005-CNONAN-P1/dp/B00O0M6Q0C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1534204261&sr=8-4&keywords=dual+power+supply+adapter If doing so, just keep a load on it since from most of the stuff i've read, they don't like be without load, in case simply plugging in hdd or fan does the job.
Can somebody help me fix this power supply? I am to old to learn new tricks. I just want to replace the fuse, if that's what blew. I thought i smelled my neighbor cooking pollack, but the next morning i when i tried to boot my pc, it just kept beeping with red light. i will build a non proprietary sys., when i feel better
Excellent video Tony. I worked as a computer technician for many years and have ran across a few of these HP computers. They always seemed have some kind of funky design that isn't standard to the industry. Didn't really see that issue too much with Dell computers when I compared to HP. I guess HP just wanted a proprietary design so the end user couldn't replace things as easily. Another way for the company to make money I suppose.
"Another way for the company to make money I suppose." That's what I always thought, too. Everything with HP/Compaq is built around their motto: "Replace with original HP/Compaq part only". The machines are not the worst to service *IF* you are willing to spend loads of moolah on their original parts. Other than that, everything in an HP is off any industry-standard, starting with the color-code of their PSs up to funky fan connectors. Actually I was surprised that he could fit in the GFX-card and not had to use some odd riser-card/adapter from HP :)
I had the same problem with a Dell Optiplex 3020. The P/S only puts out 12 volts so to put in a video card I had to upgrade the P/S and get an adapter from Ebay to make it work.
Ha, HP/Compaq-PCs! Everything around their boxes is a tad off from any standard :) Starting with the case itself, non-standard dimensions, odd drillings, the torque screws and specialized HP-mounting brackets and what have you. Still, having been inside many HPs, I have never seen such a joke of PS like this 240W thingie you fished out there. Must be their Desktop/consumer-line. Usually I see old server- and workstation-HPs/Compaqs and while everything is still off any standard, they at least put fine PSs in there. Nippon-Chemi Con caps, fat heatsinks, filters everywhere ... in short: textbook SMPS designs. Good conversion there, and! I gotta have such a neat little voltage tester. Thanks for sharing!
Could you buy a normal psu, then buy a 20 pin to whatever hp pin converter? I see adapters for that that says its made specifically for hp computer. If so, then it will open up a whole new opportunities to use Gpu that requires 6 pin power.
Did you drill the holes for the new power supply while the motherboard was still connected to the case? Just trying to figure out what short cuts I can make. I have a working Hp Tower 8200 with i7 2600 processor. I've ordered the parts, power supply and video card.
Thank you very much!! My PSU JUST GET BAM on my Elite 8000. The new one cost around 180 euros. This video save my life and save money. Every step explained. Happy New Year!!!
I have the same question, how is the wiring of the P2 connector? I have seen no less than 6 different forms of voltage combinations for that connector. Thanks in advance for the answer.,
I'm having the same issue. I bought the adapter that's identical to this design but i meed to modify it. I have a new generation hp pavilion and it uses the standard 4 pin cpu, another 4 pin instead of the 6 pin here. And the six pin smaller connector. On the mb only 3 of these wires are populated. I have no issue rewiring this to fit my purpose but i can't find anything on the diagram for this motherboard to know what needs to be changed
Hey I'm just curious but I noticed with the modulator he was a black wire for the ground which wire on the ATX standard did you use for that and where do you ground it to
Thanks very much for this demo, however, the original power supply seems to come from a smaller/ narrower tower than the one you are showing at the very end of your video. My problem being that my HP PC with the original small power supply you are showing at the beginning, does no seem to have room enough to install a standard ATX anyway. Am I right ?
Probably a SFF HP? Definitely won't fit a standard ATX PSU. The one he showed at the beginning looks like the ones that come out of the small form factor HP's. IDK?
I know this is a older video, but I just bought a adapter called Add2psu. Please just look it up. It's around 5 or 10 dollars. I've been using this for at least 6 months. Good luck everyone!
Shinobi Gamer, Well to me yes you would need the add2psu adapter. Just make sure the power requirements for the video card. Hey, Trust me I'm no pro either lol, But I don't like trying to mess with electrical wiring. I also just want to state that I have no affiliation or anything with this company, I just want to give some advice for what worked for me. Last thing I believe you can add multiple power supplies by just adding more of these adapters. Just do research to make sure. Thanks
@@huskysharky9025 All you plug in is the motherboard adapter from the second power supply, and a power plug from the first computer to give it power. Plus you have to plug both power supplies into the wall. Here's their website. This is still the same one I've had before, still on my first adapter. www.add2psu.com/
Hi Tony Discovered your channel a few days ago and have watched several of your videos. Great work and fun too! Do you have a link for the 5v converter board? Thanks very much. Gary
If it needs a new board the absolute best thing you can do is take all the parts out of the case, throw the case away and get a standard atx case. Then any board that supports your cpu will work and you don't have to worry about this proprietary nonsense.
The standby is just a momentary switch. You tap the button to send power from the power supply to the motherboard. But it's just for a micro second. Your power supply has a 12v output. Most of those Molex connectors are made the same. You can release the pins in the connector. Pull them out and arrange them like you want. The pins just push back in. th-cam.com/video/x5_58o0WaTM/w-d-xo.html So instead of using boost converters and such for a micro second of 12v power... Just move one of the six or so to the SB lug.
You must be thinking of something else, the standby power rail is NEVER off, so long as the PSU is plugged into the wall. It supplies power to the motherboard and usb ports so peripherals can wake the pc and the mobo can control the PSU. The other power rails won't be on without PS-ON (green wire) being grounded, which is done by the mobo using the standby rail for power until the main power is applied. This means that the boost is most definitely required. Though yeah, cutting off the cables was rather barbaric...
Very nice work, and I appreciate the schematics. But that is NOT the big problem with conversion of the 8xxx HP systems.. It is The 515 Fan Error when starting up with a standard ATX PSU. I finally ordered the Hong Kong cable, which claims it stops the problem...AND IT DOESN'T! That stupid 6 pin connector , called the KF2510 6-Pin and ONLY for sale in China, needs a tach signal from a 3-pin fan to satisfy the stinking motherboard into booting. I am preparing to wire a tach line from a small 3-pin fan into the KF2510 to see if that works. If it does, I will post a TH-cam video with the results. And I will unleash fury on all the other TH-cam "shade tree techs" who never explained how to fix it properly. If it doesn't work, and the system is fried, I will trash my HP8100 that I struggled with for 3 years. This is why this HP model, a potentially powerful desktop, is now selling for $50 on eBay.
Hello, I just ordered this specific motherboard and I'm having trouble finding the cpu heatsink for motherboard and also the heatsink bracket. I'd really appreciate if you can tell me the specific heatsink and fan you're using here. Thanks in advance.
I have a question. Is It nescessary to have COM wires in exact order as you have it in your diagram .? My adapter has COM wire for p1 on the fifth row, first column instead of third row, second column , as you have. Do I really have to swap it ? Thx
The fan error will show up because it's not the OEM power supply. As long as you can see it spinning then you can bypass the error with F1 and it's totally fine.
sir can i ask a favor about the diagram you showed where can i get it to be printed so that i can follow instruction from it, and what exactly the name of booster you put in it?
Do I need the signal cable? My power supply has all the cables but the signal 6 pin. My hp 8300 elite is arriving monday, just need to know if I'm going to have to buy an adapter cable
@@tk11rj any psu with 24 pin connector will work with this adapter I was order from this link and Works perfect! I order and different one for Lenovo thinkincentre m82. perfect! www.ebay.com/itm/Converter-Cable-Power-Adapter-for-HP-Elite-8100-8200-8300-800G1-ATX-24-pin-to-6P/323857034491?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@@tazerknight1 Then something else is Dead on your PC. Maybe your PSU is fully dead, like i had experience. It can be 2 things, your PSU is totally dead, or something on your motherboard is DEAD. This cable adapters works 100% true, if you dont believe, you can find on youtube people with that adapter and wokring GAMING PC-s ;)
@@DugiDevetCarabolium that would suck.but my pc is running. think they could be blocking it, for it to work , it is a refurbished pc iget the 4 red lights.
i have hp tower elite 8300. 12 gb core i5 3rd gen processor 3570. built in power supply when i just go to PUBG MOBILE Emulator GameLoop then computer hang black or green screen come, and pc hang ,,, then i just have to power then on,,, whats the problem can uh telll me pleasea en waiting for ur reply ,, em worried about GPU rx560,, or is it power supply issue can uh tell me,.
Hello, Can I replace the CPU COOLER and the Fan located at the back of the computer for something more silent? (any problem with compatibility)..Thanks
I'm not even going to comment because he doesn't seem to be responding to them. I'm looking to replace my squeaky CPU fan, it has some stupid non-standard wiring.
I have a question as i am not actually prof. In this: According to pinout, only purple wire goes through booster. Where did you take a black (minus) wire to booster from? I am trying to do it now and dont have a clear understanding.
@@Hedgeflexlfz Go to ebay or a big website like that and search for "24pin to 6pin" u can order adapter cables there. I wouldn't recommend slicing up your new PSU because you could easily break it.
@@Hedgeflexlfz Good that it worked. Do you have to press "F1" at start? I haven't got my adapter yet and I was planning to use this computer with gtx960.
Hi.. I was looking for somebody who build this adapter and i found yours here. I'm so curious if i can make one by myself, and already get myself the same step up module like yours. Question, do you have this tutorial on your web or social media, etc, so i can read it? It will be really a huge help. Thank you so much. Amazing content video 👍👍👍
Hi! Love your video. Did you have any issue with fan noise? My 8200 CMT always has all three fans spinning as fast as fuck...can't lower them. Also, what Operating Sys are you on? Windows 7? Thanks so much! very cool video ;)
Just wanted to say I found your video great, I am gonna get a new psu for my slim optiplex 7010 slim form it has a 250w one. This was given to me free. So I know I must get 500w+ if I want to game on it with a new gpu lol
I just bought this hp elite 8200 with a core i5 and had this exact problem. Tho for a day, my 3 hard drivers, 4 sticks of ram and my gtx 1050ti oc worked. Then just shutdowns suddenly after a day. I thought my gpu died, but no. I tried it on my other setup and it's working. Now whenever I put my gpu in the 8200 and install gpu drivers, it just shutdowns. I'm guessing power supply couldn't power my gpu anymore when drivers installs
Hi there i have HP 8200 and i want install GTX1050TI, do you think it is possible to install such graphic card in HP 8200 and what about its power supply and graphic card space in compact board
HP still makes some great computers, like my 840 workstation however they’re not cheap. HP also makes cheap machines which respond to market forces. You’ll find them for sale at places like Best Buy, (I’m not picking on Best Buy). If you buy an inexpensive machine that’s what you get. Or you can build your own if you want. It’s not very had these days.
No, you can not, the pinout is not compatible. Note that the HP mainboard connector has PS_ON logic that would enable the mainboard to fully turn on the power supply from standby state, and standby power; while the GPU only receives 12V power when the power supply is fully on and has a detection pin to enable the GPU to determine that the plug is in, so half of the purpose of the plugs is different too.
Thanks for this informative video. For the standby voltage couldn't you just eliminate that voltage booster by tying into a 12v lead on the new power supply? Looks like it has plenty of output.
you are amazing really a good job, but I have a problem with my HP power supply so I want to jump the cables but I don`t know which colors, before with the old power supply I used the green and black colors could you help please? now I have yellow, blue, purple and black
Or You can ad a 12 v power suply to feed the ''stand by '' mode (like a wifi power suply or anything if is 12 V DCC ) .I just try and it's working just fine
Yes ,I have a adapter from a LED lamp 12Volt .1 A . It's always plugged but it's cold like ice .I order from ebay that booster ,so this is just temporary.The ebay booster is 2 dollars or something
Excuse me for my ignorance, but from the hp source only one cable with 12v dc comes out, but with the wifi adapter or lights whatever, we have two, how would you connect?
Instead of chopping up that eVGA PSU, why not buy an adapter cable for your PC. The adapter cables for the HP 6 pin to 20+4 pin costs only around $5 from China or $10 for America. I have a HP Compaq 8100 that has a proprietary PSU (screw layout and motherboard connector), and after buying a $10 adapter and drilling some holes in the case, the HP powers on and works. The PSU I have in it is a EVGA NEX750B 750 watt that I use to power a GTX 480. I do plan on upgrading the GPU to a newer, non-thermi one, but for now, the 480 works with the HP motherboard and the NEX750B PSU. Also, another thing, I had to bend a part of the side panel outwards, so it would close with the drilled screw holes. The part of the side panel that I had to bend does not leave a gap in the case.
I'm planning to do this w/ my compaq 6300 (i5-3470) and put a GTX 1060 on it, what i've been wondering is if this adapters works fine, did you had any trouble with it?
The adapter works fine with my 8100. The only issue with the adapter is every time that you turn on the system, it gives an error that says "PSU fan not detected", but all you have to do is hit F1 to boot. Which I wouldn't really call that an issue, but an annoyance. It does this because the two of the pins that are used to communicate with the PSU fan are not on the adapter. Also another thing, you will need to drill holes in your HP case and maybe bend a bit of the side panel so it will close.
Sir can you make a video on how you did the wire connections especially to the Voltage booster converter. tnx.. noob here. i love your tutorial Sir... tnx very much.
The psu is fine, just can't put a power glutton inside.. gt 1030s, gtx 1050 and the 1050 ti are perfect for this machine, just plug and play and gg. Can grab one of these for under $150 with the i7 2600, just a little ram upgrade and a $80 1030 , perfect for light gaming.
Nick Rainey 100% just make sure you get the low profile version of the card , it'll pull like 75 watts which is fine , been done over , people run into issues when they run like 2 mechanical harddrive and a wifi card , I used a 1tb hdd the wearer digital green, and a Samsung 128gb ssd in mine, I direct connect too , no wifi card. But from what I see , all the models like the 6000 series and the dell 700 series etc they're basically all the same , shouldn't have any issues man.
I dont remember where I saw this, but some guy run into problems using his (1050 i think, it was a 75W GPU anyway) the GPU worked fine when idle but always crashed as soon as it tried to draw more than 35~36W Edit: it was a Dell, with a 36W rated PCIe port
1/12/2022 Just returned my new video card, as I discovered it wouldn't work with my HP I thought about swapping power supplies glad I didn't as I didn't know about the 5V /12V bus.
Abdullah Baig now I don't have a 8200 but I have a 8100, the Mobo (motherboard) in my one is a q57 Mobo, size wise it's a sff or small form factor PC, the Mobo is a btx Mobo so you can just switch it over to an it or atx case, the case you want to buy should say what type of Mobo will fit into it, also if you are planning on getting a new case and Mobo make sure your getting a Mobo that has the same socket type as your CPU, if you don't know what socket it is then look your CPU up, if you not planning on doing any of that and just want to buy a GPU (graphics card) to play games I suggest you get either a low profile gt 1030 for light games, gtx 1050 for medium to high 1080p gaming or you could try getting a GTX 750 low profile on the cheap and they all work with the psu in your PC, good luck 👌
stephen merrins although i am using gtx 750 ti, as hp oem mobos doesnt habe standard psu connector , so its a big mess to find case for oem boards, then a psu and if it doesnt workout, then most probably a new non oem mobo i guess
What kind of motherboard, well if you have a CMT (Convertible Mid-Tower), its ATX sized. If you have a mid-tower or SFF, its BTX. And I am not sure if you can use a custom case. The HP may have proprietary motherboard standoff locations.
of course he used a tower form to redo everything about the small form factor system but I have an old hp 6305 pro sff that I'm upgrading the motherboard from fm2 to socket 1155 all I need is a cpu to upgrade everything in the small form factor case no upgrade to power or anything else holes are the same for the two motherboards in the case just put the motherboard and cpu and everything else and away we go
I install a standard size GT 1030 on my HP Compaq 8100 while not noticing the standard watts for it to run. It took 2 weeks for me to use it but one day my pc is not turning on and i suspect my PSU is dead because of that.
can you help me my hp elitedesk 800 g1 sff core i7 4th gen i buy already a 6 pins connector in amazon but it's not working to my hp elitedesk 800 g1 core i7...
I know it is almost 2 years after the fact, but could you link the stuff needed for this? I have an older hp elite 8200 minitower and I would love to do something like this for it .
Just an update. I went and got it working by rewiring the p2 connector on the adapter. I think I know how to fix the fan error in the beginning of boot, but I am not worried enough about it to do it.
@@stellarorbit1341 Sorry to bother you 6 months after you posted, but did you run into the 4 beeps and red light flashing error after installing your new PSU??
@@NightPhantomz Yeah. I just had to compare and figure out the placement of the cables in comparison to what the video shown and after doing so I got it to work just fine.
Hello i have hp compaq 8200 elite convertible minitower 32bit did it support kingston fury hyper x 1600mhz 4 gb? Please tell me as fast you can. Because that ram have offer
INTERESTING,, SO THERE ARE NO AFTER MARKET COMPANIES MAKING A POWER SUPPLY TO REPLACE THE HP, WITHOUT ALL THIS WORK? OR DOES HP MAKE LARGER POWER SUPPLIES THAT FIT? *CHINESE BOOST POWER SUPPLY ? WHERE TO GET THAT? THE DRAWING YOU SHOWED, WHERE IS THE LINK FOR THAT? THANKS 2018 JULY 17, usa , I HAVE A HO 800 G1 ELITE TOWER.
Bro fix this, These caps are actually hurting. Also the power supply in the video is an EVGA 500W 80Plus Power Supply Unit as for the 24 pin to 6pin adapter you can get them on Ebay and will have to modify them to work with the specific board. Don't even worry about the drawing he has, if anything just take a screenshot and use it as a diagram.
Anyone else having problems with HP 8200 randomly freezing, restarting or losing network connectivity ? I feel like they were all remotely put out of service by a bios update or similar. Since they should still work but HP needs to sell new ones.
There is or was an adapter cable already made for this conversion. Here's a TH-cam video showing the cable and they provided a link (expired) for the cable from an eBay seller. I don't know if you can still buy these adapter cables. th-cam.com/video/0VCslFs6lW0/w-d-xo.html
To owners of the SFF (Small Form Factor) model of the HP Compaq Elite 8300 computer:
These machines (and I believe the other SFF models of the 8000 series, i.e. 8100, 8200, etc.) utilize a rare PSU (Power Supply Unit) form factor of CFX. The only CFX power supplies I have found are all 240W and are light weight for most graphics cards. The number of low profile graphics cards that will fit into the SFF machine have increased considerably in the past few years. In addition to half height profile, you must check the card length against the space from the rear of your machine to the taller components towards the front. If the card is half height and not too long to interfere with other machine components, you can install it.
However, power is another matter. While some lower power graphics cards will work with the stock 240W power supply, if the card has a separate power connector or draws too much power, it is not an option for the stock PSU. Fortunately, a PSU upgrade is possible, but requires a non-standard installation of a higher power PSU that will physically fit in the computer case even though not designed to do so. Two other PSU form factors may fit into the space taken by your existing PSU. The narrow portion of the PSU case location, which is deep and tall enough to accommodate a non-standard PSU, is approximately 100mm wide and 85mm tall. Common ATX and SFX PSUs will not fit in this space. The Flex-ATX form factor power supply is 81.5mm wide and only 40.5mm tall, so it will easily fit in the space, even if there is a secondary hard drive immediately in front of it. These PSUs are available with up to at least 350W. The other possible form factor is TFX. These PSUs are 85mm wide and 65mm tall, so they also will fit in your machine, but not if you have a 3.5” secondary hard drive immediately in front of it in the secondary hard drive location (the problem is that the TFX PSU will need to sit on top of the secondary hard drive, causing the top of the PSU to interfere with the top cover of the computer case). TFX PSUs are available in capacity of up to at least 500W. Depending on the height of its mounting hardware, a 2.5” secondary hard drive may be short enough to permit a TFX PSU to sit above it and not interfere with the top cover.
However, neither of these form factor PSUs have the ability to physically mount into your case like your existing unusually shaped CFX PSU. The simple solution is to mount the new PSU with double faced tape to secure it in place.
The next issue is connecting the new PSU to the motherboard and peripherals. Most Flex-ATX and TFX PSUs come with a 24pin or 20/4pin connector, a 4pin CPU power connector and some array of 4pin Molex, SATA and floppy drive power connectors. None I have seen have the KF2510-6P female plug found on your PSU. Also, these PSUs provide the now standard +5vsb (standby), not the +12vsb required by your motherboard. Fortunately, many sources provide an adapter cable that plugs into the new PSU's 24pin or 20/4pin connector and provides the 6pin main power plug and the KF2510-6P plug required by your motherboard. An eBay search for "ATX 6pin 2port supply cable" will bring up a host of sources for this adapter, which includes a DC voltage converter that converts the new PSU's +5vsb to the +12vsb you need. The new PSU's 4pin CPU (Central Processing Unit) power connector is connected to the motherboard at the same location as was the identical plug from your original PSU.
However, the flat 6 pin in-line KF2510-6P female connector on many of these adapters is not wired correctly for the HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF machine. Looking at the wire end of the connector with the raised guides pointing up and the rectangular holes facing down, the left most wire position is Pin 1 and the right most wire position is Pin 6. The adapter has 4 wires going to this connector of various colors. Because they are not standard, the wire colors are not important, just the Pin numbers of the 24 Pin receptacle and the KF2510-6P connector they run between. One wire connects to Pin 16 of the 24 Pin receptacle, the PS_ON or Power Supply On pin. The other end of this wire should go to Pin 3 of the KF2510-6P connector (the same location as the green wire on the original power supply connector). The wire that connects to Pin 8 of the 24 Pin receptacle (the PS_OK or Power Supply OK or Power supply Good pin) should connect to Pin 4 of the KF2510-6P connector (the same location as the grey wire on the original power supply connector). The other two wires connected to Pins 17 and 18 of the 24 Pin receptacle (or any other ground pins) should go to Pins 5 and 6 of the KF2510-6P connector. These locations have no wires connected on the original power supply connector. If the wires on your adapter are not connected correctly to the KF2510-6P plug, move the wires to the correct locations described above. To remove a wire from the plug, place a needle or other small pointed object like a toothpick gently into the small rectangular hole on the plug at the location of the wire you wish to remove. Press the needle gently inward and upward to release the metal wire connector and pull the wire and connector out of the plug. If the tiny tab on the metal connector is no longer bent away from the body of the connector, use the needle to push it out slightly so it will snap into the rectangular hole at the new wire location into which it will be placed.
With just this adapter, correctly wired, your computer will work with your new PSU. The drive power connectors from the new PSU can be connected directly to your drives, replacing the cable currently connecting your motherboard to the drives' power connectors. Not only does this reduce the current flowing through the motherboard, it also eliminates much of the +12v to +5v conversion currently performed by your motherboard with the original PSU.
One minor disadvantage of this PSU upgrade is that your computer will seek a "PSU fan on" signal when it boots. Since Flex-ATX and TFX PSUs do not provide this signal, you will get a 515 error message (Power Supply fan not detected) during the boot. Just follow the screen instruction to ignore this false warning by pressing F1 and the boot will continue.
This error can be avoided by connecting your CPU cooling fan to Pin 2 of the KF2510-6P PSU adapter connector (the same location as the white wire on the original CPU plug). This requires adding a 5th wire to the KF2510--6P connector on the adapter. Snap-in crimp connectors for this additional wire come with any KF2510 female connector, so you can buy a KF2510-2P plug and use one of its 2 crimp connectors for the new wire on the PSU adapter plug, leaving the Pin 1 location empty (the same location as the white with red stripe wire on the original PSU connector). The other end of the new wire is connected to the TAC or SENSE lead of your CPU cooling fan by spicing it to the appropriate fan power plug lead. This lead is usually a green wire but in any event it is the wire that connects to the #3 pin of the fan power connector which is the second closest to the side of the cabinet. With this arrangement, upon booting your motherboard sees the TAC or SENSE signal from your CPU cooling fan and reads it as coming from your always on new PSU fan, thus avoiding the false boot error entirely.
While this upgrade may appear intimidating, it really is not very difficult. Due to engineering changes by HP, I cannot guarantee this will work with your machine and like always, you proceed at your own risk. I did it with a 500W TFX PSU in my HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF machine to support a new graphics card and future peripherals and it works very well. My hard drive is a single 2.5" Solid State mounted in the main hard drive location below the DVD drive, so there is no drive immediately in front of the new power supply in the secondary hard drive location, allowing me to install the TFX profile PSU without interference. Good luck!!!
Love this video. Everything worked great for me. I bought an adapter from Amazon instead of making my own. Never would have tried it if not for this video. Thanks so much!!
2023, I have a Gtx 1060, nominally 90 watts draw, running on this 8200 pc with a adapter from the sata drive power plug. Works great.
Please elaborate.
@@jotajsmoint To be clear the Hp 8200 is a business commercial PC. It has a proprietary 320 watt power supply. Using a molex adapter to 6 or 8 pin, using a hard drive sata power connector works with the 1060 as it rarely needs more than 75 watts from the pcei slot. Weak but cheap! Paid $50 used for the pc. Edit, Forgot to say it has a i7 2600 with 16 gb ram.
But it does serve as a work and play machine. It runs lots of games at 1080 fine. Example; Runs World of tanks at 120fps on ultra.
I do use 2 other modern gaming rigs with Gtx 3060 12 gb cards with i10 12900 chips. Hope that helps.
@@greymatter6834 Thank you. Would I perhaps be able to install an RTX 2060 GPU if I purchase a 500w PSU with proper specs?
@@jotajsmoint if you use a Hp 8200 it will not work. But a pc that allows the power supply to be upgraded or changed, then yes. 500+ Watt psu or more would operate the 2060 safely.
@@jotajsmoint What is your pc specifications now? 🤔
This was an easy project versus some of your more extravagant projects, but a very interesting project! I very much appreciate your work!
Thanks for posting this. This gives me hope. I have a similar system to the 8200. Without thinking I bought a gtx 1080 graphics card and a new power supply without looking at the connections. Went to install the power supply and was a little confused at what I saw. Anyways long story short. This is the perfect instructions I've been searching for.
I have a 8100 elite. Core i7, graphics card, pci express cards, ssd (2), etc.. No problems with 240 watt power supply. The components are actually of high quality. Cudos to HP on that. Better than the junk components that are being sold now.
Thank you for this video. My son' s PC died a couple of weeks ago. I suspect the PS, so I just ordered this test device online. I expected it to be expensive, well it was only $8, though I've seen it for $22 by other suplliers.
I like the death disclaimer at the start. Very dramatic!
Thanks for a great video. I found it the other day while trying to figure out the best way to upgrade my pastors' computer (HP 8200 Elite) so they can run ProPresenter7. The new GPU required at least 500W (AMD Radeon RX 580 8Gb). This video, combined with another regarding the purchased adapter, made the difference in figuring out the pinning and voltages. Actually, this board's P2 connector had a different pin-out than any wiring diagram I was able to find. Typical HP I guess... can't even be consistent within the model series... But at last I knew what voltages to expect and could test everything with my multimeter before plugging in to the motherboard. Great job!
I am going through the exact same hassle as you. Even my sentiments towards HP's proprietor crap is the same as yours. With a few added expletives :).
Nicely done, Tony! Thanks for the tips on the voltage converter, and the power supply tester. Much appreciated!
I used this for the HP 800 g1 TWR, and hp elite 8300 cmt. I got my adapter on Amazon. It had the black red yellow and green wires. I put the black wire in pin 6. Red in 5. Yellow in 4. Green in three. I kept getting the four beep error. After about three hours and nearly destroying the machine with a hammer I realized I forgot to plug in the cpu power cable from the new psu to the motherboard!!! I'm glad it worked out and for any one reading this in future these two models work with the pin arrangement I just listed but don't forget the cpu power!
Jose Ahumada can you send me the link please
Sure.
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Check out the review by "Joe" in the bottom I've detailed how to re pin the wires, it's like a 1 minute job. Let me know if you have any questions when you get it.
Can you put the link here on TH-cam ?
@@SlowDelSol So you need to reverse the order of cables?
MINTOR94 yes, just reverse the order.
According to my earlier reply, there are adapter cables available on Amazon that will work but they require switching a couple wires on one of the plugs. The maker of the TH-cam Video I linked to previously was the one that sold the adapter cables for the 8200. They work with no rewiring required. I think he is in the UK.
As soon as he started talking wiring I knew I was in trouble
not really there are people who sell cables for cheap and they did pretty much what he did in the video. Its easy on the wallet and easy in general. Just plug in the wires and go.
www.ebay.com/itm/30cm-24-Pin-to-6-Pin-Power-Supply-Adapter-Cable-for-HP-Elite-8100-8200-8300-800G/174216539249?hash=item28901d6c71:g:HDIAAOSwS~tevN-1
This is an another standard which is ATX12V (used mostly in servers).
As alternate solution server PSU can be connected without 12VSB-booster (for example HSTNS-PL18). If you do not need COM, LPT, PCI then -12V is not necessary.
HP DC 7100 , PSU in mine was originally fitted with only a 200 Watt PSU , this PSU has 5 volt standby , - 12 volt/400 milliamp white wire , also has a funky red and white wire, both wires used to allow green wire signal to activate through from mother board , also in the proprietary header mixup a grey wire.
I made a hack up power up comparator control board eliminating the -12v but utilizing the red and white wire , moved green wire to comparator lm 393 output and added a dioded pull down wire from the power on button the purple wire is LM 393 vcc and 2.5v comparator input reference, the deviating by 7 millivolt red and white goes to LM 393 input latching green wire output to on until windows XP power down occurs .
Please excuse if I've repeated/ commented here before.
Great video. I had been looking through the diagrams which you showed and this make it very clear now. After failing to get the standard PSU working on my 8200, I simply decided to run both of the PSU's. This worked, but later I ended up downclocking/downvolting my gpu and that put me under the 240watt limit, eliminating the need for the second PSU. Now I just run the stock PSU and everything has been great ever since.
My 2600 bottlenecks my gpu in the games/setting I play anyway, so figured the downclock didn't even matter in the end.
Hello, how do you run 2 power supplies?
Splice the green wire (pwr on signal) of your main PSU to the green wire on the secondary psu. Here's an adapter in case you don't want to splice it, www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-24-Pin-Mining-Adapter-AC-005-CNONAN-P1/dp/B00O0M6Q0C/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1534204261&sr=8-4&keywords=dual+power+supply+adapter
If doing so, just keep a load on it since from most of the stuff i've read, they don't like be without load, in case simply plugging in hdd or fan does the job.
Can somebody help me fix this power supply? I am to old to learn new tricks. I just want to replace the fuse, if that's what blew. I thought i smelled my neighbor cooking pollack, but the next morning i when i tried to boot my pc, it just kept beeping with red light. i will build a non proprietary sys., when i feel better
@@speedy1gons What is your computer brand/type exactly?
Excellent video Tony. I worked as a computer technician for many years and have ran across a few of these HP computers. They always seemed have some kind of funky design that isn't standard to the industry. Didn't really see that issue too much with Dell computers when I compared to HP. I guess HP just wanted a proprietary design so the end user couldn't replace things as easily. Another way for the company to make money I suppose.
"Another way for the company to make money I suppose." That's what I always thought, too. Everything with HP/Compaq is built around their motto: "Replace with original HP/Compaq part only". The machines are not the worst to service *IF* you are willing to spend loads of moolah on their original parts. Other than that, everything in an HP is off any industry-standard, starting with the color-code of their PSs up to funky fan connectors. Actually I was surprised that he could fit in the GFX-card and not had to use some odd riser-card/adapter from HP :)
Hewlett Packard has always ascribed to that philosophy, forcing users to twist to their conventions.
I had the same problem with a Dell Optiplex 3020. The P/S only puts out 12 volts so to put in a video card I had to upgrade the P/S and get an adapter from Ebay to make it work.
Ha, HP/Compaq-PCs! Everything around their boxes is a tad off from any standard :) Starting with the case itself, non-standard dimensions, odd drillings, the torque screws and specialized HP-mounting brackets and what have you. Still, having been inside many HPs, I have never seen such a joke of PS like this 240W thingie you fished out there. Must be their Desktop/consumer-line. Usually I see old server- and workstation-HPs/Compaqs and while everything is still off any standard, they at least put fine PSs in there. Nippon-Chemi Con caps, fat heatsinks, filters everywhere ... in short: textbook SMPS designs. Good conversion there, and! I gotta have such a neat little voltage tester. Thanks for sharing!
Could you buy a normal psu, then buy a 20 pin to whatever hp pin converter? I see adapters for that that says its made specifically for hp computer. If so, then it will open up a whole new opportunities to use Gpu that requires 6 pin power.
How did you managed th P2 connector? there are so many different configurations. And my adapter has 11V on the purple wire, will that work?
Did you drill the holes for the new power supply while the motherboard was still connected to the case? Just trying to figure out what short cuts I can make. I have a working Hp Tower 8200 with i7 2600 processor. I've ordered the parts, power supply and video card.
Thank you very much!! My PSU JUST GET BAM on my Elite 8000. The new one cost around 180 euros. This video save my life and save money. Every step explained. Happy New Year!!!
So if I wanted to replace my power supply I would need an adapter or could I use included cables with the power supply
I have the same question, how is the wiring of the P2 connector? I have seen no less than 6 different forms of voltage combinations for that connector. Thanks in advance for the answer.,
I'm having the same issue. I bought the adapter that's identical to this design but i meed to modify it. I have a new generation hp pavilion and it uses the standard 4 pin cpu, another 4 pin instead of the 6 pin here. And the six pin smaller connector. On the mb only 3 of these wires are populated. I have no issue rewiring this to fit my purpose but i can't find anything on the diagram for this motherboard to know what needs to be changed
your daughter is lucky to have you
Hey I'm just curious but I noticed with the modulator he was a black wire for the ground which wire on the ATX standard did you use for that and where do you ground it to
Thanks very much for this demo, however, the original power supply seems to come from a smaller/ narrower tower than the one you are showing at the very end of your video. My problem being that my HP PC with the original small power supply you are showing at the beginning, does no seem to have room enough to install a standard ATX anyway. Am I right ?
Probably a SFF HP? Definitely won't fit a standard ATX PSU. The one he showed at the beginning looks like the ones that come out of the small form factor HP's. IDK?
I know this is a older video, but I just bought a adapter called Add2psu. Please just look it up. It's around 5 or 10 dollars. I've been using this for at least 6 months. Good luck everyone!
Oh yeah both power supplies turn on and off with every startup and shutdown.
Shinobi Gamer, Well to me yes you would need the add2psu adapter. Just make sure the power requirements for the video card. Hey, Trust me I'm no pro either lol, But I don't like trying to mess with electrical wiring. I also just want to state that I have no affiliation or anything with this company, I just want to give some advice for what worked for me. Last thing I believe you can add multiple power supplies by just adding more of these adapters. Just do research to make sure.
Thanks
@@stonecd that is so awesome how does it work do I need to screw anything in
@@huskysharky9025 All you plug in is the motherboard adapter from the second power supply, and a power plug from the first computer to give it power. Plus you have to plug both power supplies into the wall. Here's their website. This is still the same one I've had before, still on my first adapter.
www.add2psu.com/
Hi Tony
Discovered your channel a few days ago and have watched several of your videos. Great work and fun too!
Do you have a link for the 5v converter board?
Thanks very much. Gary
sir can you suggest what motherboards are compatible to my HP 8200 Elite
If it needs a new board the absolute best thing you can do is take all the parts out of the case, throw the case away and get a standard atx case. Then any board that supports your cpu will work and you don't have to worry about this proprietary nonsense.
Has it started with no issues, or you had to reconfigure something in BIOS, or system?
The standby is just a momentary switch. You tap the button to send power from the power supply to the motherboard. But it's just for a micro second. Your power supply has a 12v output. Most of those Molex connectors are made the same. You can release the pins in the connector. Pull them out and arrange them like you want. The pins just push back in.
th-cam.com/video/x5_58o0WaTM/w-d-xo.html
So instead of using boost converters and such for a micro second of 12v power... Just move one of the six or so to the SB lug.
You must be thinking of something else, the standby power rail is NEVER off, so long as the PSU is plugged into the wall. It supplies power to the motherboard and usb ports so peripherals can wake the pc and the mobo can control the PSU. The other power rails won't be on without PS-ON (green wire) being grounded, which is done by the mobo using the standby rail for power until the main power is applied. This means that the boost is most definitely required. Though yeah, cutting off the cables was rather barbaric...
Thanks I just ordered one of these
Very nice work, and I appreciate the schematics. But that is NOT the big problem with conversion of the 8xxx HP systems.. It is The 515 Fan Error when starting up with a standard ATX PSU. I finally ordered the Hong Kong cable, which claims it stops the problem...AND IT DOESN'T! That stupid 6 pin connector , called the KF2510 6-Pin and ONLY for sale in China, needs a tach signal from a 3-pin fan to satisfy the stinking motherboard into booting. I am preparing to wire a tach line from a small 3-pin fan into the KF2510 to see if that works. If it does, I will post a TH-cam video with the results. And I will unleash fury on all the other TH-cam "shade tree techs" who never explained how to fix it properly. If it doesn't work, and the system is fried, I will trash my HP8100 that I struggled with for 3 years. This is why this HP model, a potentially powerful desktop, is now selling for $50 on eBay.
Hello, I just ordered this specific motherboard and I'm having trouble finding the cpu heatsink for motherboard and also the heatsink bracket. I'd really appreciate if you can tell me the specific heatsink and fan you're using here. Thanks in advance.
I have a question. Is It nescessary to have COM wires in exact order as you have it in your diagram .? My adapter has COM wire for p1 on the fifth row, first column instead of third row, second column , as you have. Do I really have to swap it ? Thx
no you don't. they are all receiving the same power.
Do you get the fan error when you turn on the unit on?
The fan error will show up because it's not the OEM power supply. As long as you can see it spinning then you can bypass the error with F1 and it's totally fine.
sir can i ask a favor about the diagram you showed where can i get it to be printed so that i can follow instruction from it, and what exactly the name of booster you put in it?
Hi do you know p2 wiring for hp Compaq 8300 Elite
Great video !
Do I need the signal cable? My power supply has all the cables but the signal 6 pin. My hp 8300 elite is arriving monday, just need to know if I'm going to have to buy an adapter cable
Dont bother, just buy adapter from Ebay for any HP 8000 model. Works perfect on my 8200 with gtx 1070- 8gb OC
Dugi Devet What do you mean? Can you just keep that trash psu, get an adapter and then done?
@@tk11rj any psu with 24 pin connector will work with this adapter
I was order from this link and Works perfect!
I order and different one for Lenovo thinkincentre m82. perfect!
www.ebay.com/itm/Converter-Cable-Power-Adapter-for-HP-Elite-8100-8200-8300-800G1-ATX-24-pin-to-6P/323857034491?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
@@DugiDevetCarabolium i already tried it with cool master 500w does not work
@@tazerknight1 Then something else is Dead on your PC.
Maybe your PSU is fully dead, like i had experience.
It can be 2 things, your PSU is totally dead, or something on your motherboard is DEAD.
This cable adapters works 100% true, if you dont believe, you can find on youtube people with that adapter and wokring GAMING PC-s ;)
@@DugiDevetCarabolium that would suck.but my pc is running. think they could be blocking it, for it to work , it is a refurbished pc
iget the 4 red lights.
thanks a lot sir... you just did the great job.. now don't have to buy new pc... thumbs up. (y)
So is there some sort of converter for the 6-pin connector that only works on mobo to one that can work with a GPU
i have hp tower elite 8300. 12 gb core i5 3rd gen processor 3570. built in power supply when i just go to PUBG MOBILE Emulator GameLoop then computer hang black or green screen come, and pc hang ,,, then i just have to power then on,,, whats the problem can uh telll me pleasea en waiting for ur reply ,, em worried about GPU rx560,, or is it power supply issue can uh tell me,.
@Roroni I have rx560 and uh saying install the driver of 550 is am right ??
I think that your set up is more than the psu can handle
What's the specific case? I have a hp 8200 but it looks different
Hello, Can I replace the CPU COOLER and the Fan located at the back of the computer for something more silent? (any problem with compatibility)..Thanks
I'm not even going to comment because he doesn't seem to be responding to them. I'm looking to replace my squeaky CPU fan, it has some stupid non-standard wiring.
I have a question as i am not actually prof. In this:
According to pinout, only purple wire goes through booster. Where did you take a black (minus) wire to booster from?
I am trying to do it now and dont have a clear understanding.
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you can take any one they all same the black one
How can I upgrade a power supply in a 8200?
@@Hedgeflexlfz Go to ebay or a big website like that and search for "24pin to 6pin" u can order adapter cables there. I wouldn't recommend slicing up your new PSU because you could easily break it.
@@olavipaajarvi105 Already did it and got it working, thanks for replying though.
@@Hedgeflexlfz Good that it worked. Do you have to press "F1" at start? I haven't got my adapter yet and I was planning to use this computer with gtx960.
@xraytonyb i did this but the buck booster get supper hot just in a mili seconds, i put the power off immediately for safety purpose, plz advise
great but i hope you discribe in detailes how to replace the connector s
Hi..
I was looking for somebody who build this adapter and i found yours here.
I'm so curious if i can make one by myself, and already get myself the same step up module like yours.
Question, do you have this tutorial on your web or social media, etc, so i can read it?
It will be really a huge help.
Thank you so much.
Amazing content video 👍👍👍
I know it's an old post but can you please explain how you managed to mount the new PSU?
16:50
sorry bro i don't understand all because i'm french but do you have change your box?
Hi! Love your video. Did you have any issue with fan noise? My 8200 CMT always has all three fans spinning as fast as fuck...can't lower them. Also, what Operating Sys are you on? Windows 7?
Thanks so much! very cool video ;)
Flavio Burgazzi regarde dans le bios ,option thermale système et idil
Same here man , do you still have the problem ?
Just wanted to say I found your video great, I am gonna get a new psu for my slim optiplex 7010 slim form it has a 250w one. This was given to me free. So I know I must get 500w+ if I want to game on it with a new gpu lol
I just bought this hp elite 8200 with a core i5 and had this exact problem. Tho for a day, my 3 hard drivers, 4 sticks of ram and my gtx 1050ti oc worked. Then just shutdowns suddenly after a day. I thought my gpu died, but no. I tried it on my other setup and it's working. Now whenever I put my gpu in the 8200 and install gpu drivers, it just shutdowns. I'm guessing power supply couldn't power my gpu anymore when drivers installs
Hi there i have HP 8200 and i want install GTX1050TI, do you think it is possible to install such graphic card in HP 8200 and what about its power supply and graphic card space in compact board
HP still makes some great computers, like my 840 workstation however they’re not cheap. HP also makes cheap machines which respond to market forces. You’ll find them for sale at places like Best Buy, (I’m not picking on Best Buy). If you buy an inexpensive machine that’s what you get. Or you can build your own if you want. It’s not very had these days.
So, instead of using the 6 pin on the motherboard can I use it on a graphics card instead? Mine has 350 watts
No, you can not, the pinout is not compatible. Note that the HP mainboard connector has PS_ON logic that would enable the mainboard to fully turn on the power supply from standby state, and standby power; while the GPU only receives 12V power when the power supply is fully on and has a detection pin to enable the GPU to determine that the plug is in, so half of the purpose of the plugs is different too.
Thanks for this informative video.
For the standby voltage couldn't you just eliminate that voltage booster by tying into a 12v lead on the new power supply? Looks like it has plenty of output.
Those wires would have 0vdc when the Power Supply is in standby.
True. I just found out that one is suppose to be constant voltage ( always on).
you are amazing really a good job, but I have a problem with my HP power supply so I want to jump the cables but I don`t know which colors, before with the old power supply I used the green and black colors could you help please? now I have yellow, blue, purple and black
and if I add + 5vsb to + 3.3vdc and + 3.3vdc, does it work the same?
and would it be vsb or vdc?
Or You can ad a 12 v power suply to feed the ''stand by '' mode (like a wifi power suply or anything if is 12 V DCC ) .I just try and it's working just fine
Does it really work well? and how do you do it, do you have it all the time connected to the 12V source?
Yes ,I have a adapter from a LED lamp 12Volt .1 A . It's always plugged but it's cold like ice .I order from ebay that booster ,so this is just temporary.The ebay booster is 2 dollars or something
Excuse me for my ignorance, but from the hp source only one cable with 12v dc comes out, but with the wifi adapter or lights whatever, we have two, how would you connect?
Because if you don't understand the picture you should NOT do it
Hi do you know p2 wiring for hp Compaq 8300 Elite
Don't you hear loud fan noises once you play a game like pubg/fortnite/The witcher3 ?
what is the exact voltage of the booster sir..
that mean i cant install another power supply om my mini atx hp 8300?
Buenas noches, me podrias mandar el link o el modelo del modulo de impulso que usaste porfavor
Instead of chopping up that eVGA PSU, why not buy an adapter cable for your PC. The adapter cables for the HP 6 pin to 20+4 pin costs only around $5 from China or $10 for America. I have a HP Compaq 8100 that has a proprietary PSU (screw layout and motherboard connector), and after buying a $10 adapter and drilling some holes in the case, the HP powers on and works. The PSU I have in it is a EVGA NEX750B 750 watt that I use to power a GTX 480. I do plan on upgrading the GPU to a newer, non-thermi one, but for now, the 480 works with the HP motherboard and the NEX750B PSU.
Also, another thing, I had to bend a part of the side panel outwards, so it would close with the drilled screw holes. The part of the side panel that I had to bend does not leave a gap in the case.
I'm planning to do this w/ my compaq 6300 (i5-3470) and put a GTX 1060 on it, what i've been wondering is if this adapters works fine, did you had any trouble with it?
The adapter works fine with my 8100. The only issue with the adapter is every time that you turn on the system, it gives an error that says "PSU fan not detected", but all you have to do is hit F1 to boot. Which I wouldn't really call that an issue, but an annoyance.
It does this because the two of the pins that are used to communicate with the PSU fan are not on the adapter.
Also another thing, you will need to drill holes in your HP case and maybe bend a bit of the side panel so it will close.
I'll do this, thank you for the info! It's not that easy to find people with this kind of experience.
Hi. If you use the cable adapter do you still need to have the boost power supply transformer?
@@eyeballburger
No..
Sir can you make a video on how you did the wire connections especially to the Voltage booster converter. tnx.. noob here.
i love your tutorial Sir... tnx very much.
The psu is fine, just can't put a power glutton inside.. gt 1030s, gtx 1050 and the 1050 ti are perfect for this machine, just plug and play and gg. Can grab one of these for under $150 with the i7 2600, just a little ram upgrade and a $80 1030 , perfect for light gaming.
Tyler Miller i was looking into to upgrading my 1030 in this same machine to 1050ti but it says i need 300 psu, yu think it will work ?
Nick Rainey 100% just make sure you get the low profile version of the card , it'll pull like 75 watts which is fine , been done over , people run into issues when they run like 2 mechanical harddrive and a wifi card , I used a 1tb hdd the wearer digital green, and a Samsung 128gb ssd in mine, I direct connect too , no wifi card. But from what I see , all the models like the 6000 series and the dell 700 series etc they're basically all the same , shouldn't have any issues man.
I dont remember where I saw this, but some guy run into problems using his (1050 i think, it was a 75W GPU anyway) the GPU worked fine when idle but always crashed as soon as it tried to draw more than 35~36W
Edit: it was a Dell, with a 36W rated PCIe port
Doesn't an I7-2600 have a 1155 socket which would'nt work with this hp series board BTX "." 1156
my 8300 cmt has a gtx 750 1gb. and the psu is the stock 320w one and it works fine. got the GTX 750 for $37
I can do something to get rid of the message "515 power supply fan not detected"?
can you buy the 320 power suplly to see if it fits the pc because i need to know if it fits
It fits perfectly. My 8200 came with the 320w psu installed.
Is there a way to swap the front panel usb 2.0 to usb 3.0?
PCI express card.
How to find power issue in Hp SMPS 240v SMPS frequently stop
I want to add a I5 2550k(lga 1155) is it OK? (psu 500 w)
What psu do u have not watt
can you make a tutorial how to splice and connect wire video?
And can you provide the specification of the power boaster adapter on eBay link?
1/12/2022 Just returned my new video card, as I discovered it wouldn't work with my HP
I thought about swapping power supplies glad I didn't as I didn't know about the 5V /12V bus.
What kind of motherboard this pc has? I mean in size , form factor ? And what custom case i can use for it ?
Abdullah Baig now I don't have a 8200 but I have a 8100, the Mobo (motherboard) in my one is a q57 Mobo, size wise it's a sff or small form factor PC, the Mobo is a btx Mobo so you can just switch it over to an it or atx case, the case you want to buy should say what type of Mobo will fit into it, also if you are planning on getting a new case and Mobo make sure your getting a Mobo that has the same socket type as your CPU, if you don't know what socket it is then look your CPU up, if you not planning on doing any of that and just want to buy a GPU (graphics card) to play games I suggest you get either a low profile gt 1030 for light games, gtx 1050 for medium to high 1080p gaming or you could try getting a GTX 750 low profile on the cheap and they all work with the psu in your PC, good luck 👌
stephen merrins although i am using gtx 750 ti, as hp oem mobos doesnt habe standard psu connector , so its a big mess to find case for oem boards, then a psu and if it doesnt workout, then most probably a new non oem mobo i guess
Abdullah Baig
Hi do you know p2 wiring for hp Compaq 8300 Elite
What kind of motherboard, well if you have a CMT (Convertible Mid-Tower), its ATX sized. If you have a mid-tower or SFF, its BTX.
And I am not sure if you can use a custom case. The HP may have proprietary motherboard standoff locations.
Hey, I bought a pre-made adapter and I think the wiring is incorrect could you help me figure out what’s wrong with it?
Tim I did the same
I have same pc with gpu and i bought a new power supply it works but the gpu will not post
of course he used a tower form to redo everything about the small form factor system but I have an old hp 6305 pro sff that I'm upgrading the motherboard from fm2 to socket 1155 all I need is a cpu to upgrade everything in the small form factor case no upgrade to power or anything else holes are the same for the two motherboards in the case just put the motherboard and cpu and everything else and away we go
I install a standard size GT 1030 on my HP Compaq 8100 while not noticing the standard watts for it to run. It took 2 weeks for me to use it but one day my pc is not turning on and i suspect my PSU is dead because of that.
can you help me my hp elitedesk 800 g1 sff core i7 4th gen i buy already a 6 pins connector in amazon but it's not working to my hp elitedesk 800 g1 core i7...
hi i have the same pc do you fix it ?
que tipo de elevador de voltaje uso para convertir 5 volt a 12 volt
hi where you buy mini mainboard?
mini mainboard converter 5v to 12v
I know it is almost 2 years after the fact, but could you link the stuff needed for this? I have an older hp elite 8200 minitower and I would love to do something like this for it .
Do a search on ebay there is a conversion plug
@@pooppoopweton2013 i did right after posting this.
Just an update. I went and got it working by rewiring the p2 connector on the adapter. I think I know how to fix the fan error in the beginning of boot, but I am not worried enough about it to do it.
@@stellarorbit1341 Sorry to bother you 6 months after you posted, but did you run into the 4 beeps and red light flashing error after installing your new PSU??
@@NightPhantomz Yeah. I just had to compare and figure out the placement of the cables in comparison to what the video shown and after doing so I got it to work just fine.
Why would you not show the soldering? It’s useless if you don’t actually show up how you wired it.
Hello i have hp compaq 8200 elite convertible minitower 32bit did it support kingston fury hyper x 1600mhz 4 gb? Please tell me as fast you can. Because that ram have offer
Yes
@@kellybodley8363 maximum ram for 32 bit?
@@zdeengaming4245 32 I think
@@kellybodley8363 thank you!
@@zdeengaming4245 xp 3,5 GB /win7 and up for 32 bit version is 4 GB max.
I've the same god DAMN PROBLEM!!!
INTERESTING,, SO THERE ARE NO AFTER MARKET COMPANIES MAKING A POWER SUPPLY TO REPLACE THE HP, WITHOUT ALL THIS WORK? OR DOES HP MAKE LARGER POWER SUPPLIES THAT FIT? *CHINESE BOOST POWER SUPPLY ? WHERE TO GET THAT? THE DRAWING YOU SHOWED, WHERE IS THE LINK FOR THAT?
THANKS 2018 JULY 17, usa , I HAVE A HO 800 G1 ELITE TOWER.
Bro fix this, These caps are actually hurting.
Also the power supply in the video is an EVGA 500W 80Plus Power Supply Unit as for the 24 pin to 6pin adapter you can get them on Ebay and will have to modify them to work with the specific board. Don't even worry about the drawing he has, if anything just take a screenshot and use it as a diagram.
It creates high fan noise, and sometimes won't turns on.
Anyone else having problems with HP 8200 randomly freezing, restarting or losing network connectivity ? I feel like they were all remotely put out of service by a bios update or similar. Since they should still work but HP needs to sell new ones.
Unplug, connect power supply signal wire after super high fan noise.
they sell adapters for that
What are they called??
@@ManDoER 24-Pin to 6-Pin Power Supply 12" Adapter Cable for HP Elite 8100 8200 8300
There is or was an adapter cable already made for this conversion. Here's a TH-cam video showing the cable and they provided a link (expired) for the cable from an eBay seller. I don't know if you can still buy these adapter cables. th-cam.com/video/0VCslFs6lW0/w-d-xo.html
I think i'll just buy a new case and take out what i can in my current pc
VERY VER GOOD TUTORIAL MASTER!!!!