@None of your Buisness there's a case to be made that it's an overkill cartridge in a handgun (which is reason enough for someone to want one, but let's table that). You can't seriously argue it's not a solid carbine cartridge, though.
@@matthewmudgett7413 Or a sub machine gun. A lot of militaries stocked high pressure 9mm to give their SMG's a bit more power. Using 10mm would've given even more power and without the risk of accidently loading it into and blowing up a standard service pistol.
None of your Business 337 it’s overrated against humans. If you’re going on a walkabout and might need to shoot something a bit bigger (read: cougars and black bears) then it’s great
The missing punctuation had me imagining you as a steak, well done, that went to heaven. English is not my first language and sometimes I misunderstand things.
The original CyberPunk 2020 was very much of this era (written in 91-93) and there's a well made 'Sternmeyer Type 35' chambered in 11mm from the 'United Germanies'. Kinda feels like this guy, right?
@@StevenL00 Yeah...I am partial to the 9x18 as a compact self defense solution for example. Fortunately we have some good .45 ACP options in the Glock G30 line and I actually ENJOYED shooting the squeeze cocker P7 in 9mm years ago actually...
@@longshot7601 They exist - P7M10. Rare and pricey, but can be had if you have the cash. Also kind of ugly IMO, as the slide is quite higher on the .40
@@filmfan8116 I just looked up an auction from 2011. Ouch. Production firearms are better for me since getting spare parts and magazines could be a pain. I really enjoyed shooting the P7 in 9mm once I got used to the squeeze cocker.
@@longshot7601 A lack of spare parts and the collectible value made me stop using my P7s as my EDC. I really wish they would bring them back though. I love my P7s, they are by far my favorite handguns. But I never really cared for the M10. Too ugly and being that expensive will likely keep it out of my collection.
I think it is rare as heck to find. (and quite fragile it seems) So rare most people just ended up manifacturing their own if they are still using the gun.
I bought my dad a HK p7 nickel plated 9mm . Great gun and super accurate . And yeah after a lot of rounds it gets HOT , once you squeezed cocked the striker it took a lot less pressure to hold it cocked . Slim and points naturally . It was a Father's Day gift .
"...yes, it could be made - but it would be like 10 grand a pistol..." ...in other words, [German_accent_engage]"STOP ASKING ABOUT IT, guys, we're not making the damn thing!"[German_accent_disengage]
No, I remember in one scene in MV when a suspect was in an airport and trying to get away from being captured, he ran down a corridor and tried to shoot Tubbs, with an HK P7 pistol. Tubbs returned fire and dispatched him. I remember the episode clearly because I had just read an article about the P7 days prior.
Ian's comment about Michael Mann's love of guns explains the level of detail in the movie Heat. Am I right in thinking that Val Kilmer's AR reload during the firefight after the bank robbery is still used as an exemplar during recruit training?
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I AM FANGIRLING HARD!!!!.... THE P7 IN .45 CAL AND IN THE GREY ROOOOOOMMMMM!!! THANKS GUN JESUS!!!!! WHAT'S NEXT??? SOVIET NUCLEAR ERA GUNS, GROZA OR SOME WEIRD OTS OR THE FOLDING PP90 OR THE BULLPUP AK WITHOUT BOLT TRAVEL????
P7’s are a classic Can’t believe the prices know for them. In the 80s they went for 700 dollars 💵 .had I known that I should have bought a few hindsight 20/20 .
HK has the habit of building over-engineered guns. I carried a P7M13 and a P7M8 for a couple of years while I was working close protection (I didn't pick them - they've been issued to me). The grip cocking feature is prone to failure due to breaking springs and what not and because of the gas delayed system it gets smoking hot in no time. Not to mention the ridiculous weight for a fairly compact pistol. What's good about it is that barrel is so close to the index finger. Helps a great deal with instinctive shooting and fast follow ups.
Fired the P7 in 9mm NATO when stationed in Germany in the 80's and wished our army had it as an option. All the men and the female soldiers loved it and were able to hit 25 meter targets consistently. This contrasts the Beretta which is about 50/50.
Was supposed to qualify with the M9 back in 2000 or so, never did. It felt like a VCR tape in my hand and I didn't feel confident in the firearm. Our one LT cracked a joke that he'd be more accurate by throwing it ninja star style instead.
@@StevenL00 Nice bit of nitpicking there, but no. The stuff we were using was hot. Really hot, and loaded for submachineguns, so we called it NATO to differentiate it from US ammo that was loaded less powerfully. Firing 9mm NATO in weak-ass M-9's is why so many of them failed early on. P7's just kept on trucking.
@@grrrlbreaker Quite right. 9mm NATO spec is slightly hotter than +P (124 grains @ 36,500 psi). In British service it was refered to as '2Z' and was definitely loaded with Sterling SMGs in mind, rather than Browning Hi-Powers.
I had the pleasure of seeing this pistol in 1998. I had cultivated a good relationship with the guy that was their law enforcement liaison at the time and got to visit their Gray Room. Those were good days. A lot of cool stuff in a relatively small room.
Love that H&K e-nickel finish. Some years ago i had a chance to buy a nickel M10 .40 at an LGS. I think they had $800 or $900 on it and were willing to take $700. I knew that was a decent price and it would hold its value, but at that point i had never paid that much for a single firearm before, so i passed. (Over the years later i would pay $1500 for an M1A Scout, nearly $800 for a Bushmaster, $700 for a Krag, and $850 for a Garand, but i digress). Later i learned that an acquaintance bought it, and flipped it in a matter of months for i think $1500. I would have kept it i'm sure. Anyway, missed opportunity. HK never seems to have been big on .45 ACP until the USP.
My HK P-7 M8 is my favorite pistol, I would have loved to have had the opportunity to have bought a .45ACP version in the 1980's, and I was trying to buy one and had my gun dealer at the time order one for me from HK US but they were never able to fufill the order. Now I know why... My P7 is stamped made in West Germany, which I think is so cool, I have a .300 Weatherby that also has that on the barrel.
cant wait for the video on the k3 variant of this because i think its gonna be very interessting to see what they did different to make this think work with smaller calibers
Forgotten weapons please read this cause I was looking around and found a pistol that is a myth on youtube but was made in 1970s and was stopped being made in the 90s it's called the p5 and resembles a ppk without the long barrel in my opinion but the craziest thing is it resembles a p38 with a long barrel PLEASE DO A REVIEW
Very cool video, great work. It blows my mind that in the H&K gray room there is a firearm that doesn't function. I am certain if I was the boss I would have an engineer working on fixing it. Also are we sure Tom Selleck doesn't have one? He has the Quigley rifle, he loaned to Iraqvet8888 for a show.
Gas delayed blowback should be able to handle the bigger .45 recoil, unless there isn't enough space to fit a larger diameter pistol/cylinder to compensate .45 recoil. The problem may be the low pressure cannot provide enough energy to the spring to reliably drive the ejact and loading cycle after losing most energy to the gas delay process. So HK replace it with the less effective damper delay.
Micheal Mann wanted character Sonny Crockett to own very hi-tech and very successfull guns only on the show. As the Bren Ten was discontinued, Sonny Crockett couldn't use a 'failed' weapon, thus he swap it with a S&W 456 (or 4506, I don't remember). He probably never got along with h&k about this... Even if he was doing Miami Vice 'just for the money', he had a religious approach to some creative ideas already.
So many chances to buy the 9mm back in the day. Wish I would have. After reading about a good guy cops killed when he released squeeze and they thought he cocked gun I never wanted to carry one.
Would the gas pressure issue have been resolved if they had made in .45 Super instead? .45ACP is rated at 21,000 PSI, .45 +P is rated at 23,000 PSI, .45 Super is rated at 28,000 PSI. 9mm is 35,000 PSI though, so maybe .460 Rowland? That's 40,000 PSI. 10mm Auto is closer to 9mm, at 37,500 PSI. An HK P7 in 10mm Auto. *sigh* What could have been...
Did HK tell you how many rounds it took till the hydraulic damper started leaking? And, did they tell about the costs-proportion between the damper and the rest of the gun?
So, if that's one of the Miami Vice guns, could prepping it for on set blank shooting account for the absence of the hydraulic buffer thingy? Or would blanks still be powerful enough to cycle everything?
The P7 is one my dream handguns before I even learned muzzle discipline when I was a kid, and it'll be always the too expensive piece of machinery even as an airsoft I'll never afford. If I stop to think about, 4 out of 5 of my dream handguns are HKs. At least I own my favorite P30
I collect P7s and have been looking for any info on this pistol for years. Thank you for sharing this video. The plating has a gold tone, do you think it's nickel or something else? I wish I had one of these for a month so I could create some cad drawings of it.
"pushes on the slide forward which prevents it from opening" - strictly speaking it doesn't. It reduces the acceleration, and thus the speed, but the slide starts going back right away, only in this case more slowly than it would be in a simple blowback. Unless I'm mistaken? But I don't see how
Wow, that's really compact for a .45. I ove the cocking lever/grip safety. That's how they get away with such a decent trigger on a "Double action." It's really a Single/Double action, but by putting the cocking mechanism in the grip safety, they can give you ALMOST a single action trigger, with all the advantages of a DAO CCW pocket pistol. (Which usually has a DAO trigger pull, like a C.O.P. .357.) Any chance they'll let you take that out to shoot it? I'm curious what the muzzle flip must be like in .45. The 9mm is a bit of a wrist twister, but it's a high velocity CCW. You kinda have to expect that.
More specifically, the Market they're going for was Police CCW, not civilian. This was supposed to be like what we'd call the "Detective Special" over here. I'd assume that because of the long history of Uncle Sam insisting on a .45 for almost a century, they thought they might interest US in it. Since .45 Browning is pretty well known as "America's caliber" worldwide.
Cool video! Have you done one on the roller-locked P9? EDIT: nevermind I found it... and it's a pretty good video, despite being a bit old now, so I don't think it needs updating!
No! That thing was heavy and the"squeeze-cock" mechanism was a finicky pain-in-the -ass.You always needed to own two/three,as one was always on a 3-month repair!
The HK so rare that even HK doesn't have one with all the parts
Hmm....reliant on operating pressure.....big frame ......A 10mm H&K squeeze cocker?
File that under "Neat things that could have been."
HK P7M10
Might not be exactly what you're looking for but kinda close
@None of your Buisness the large spike in interest, and by extension new production, of 10mm pistols and carbines says you're wrong.
@None of your Buisness there's a case to be made that it's an overkill cartridge in a handgun (which is reason enough for someone to want one, but let's table that). You can't seriously argue it's not a solid carbine cartridge, though.
@@matthewmudgett7413 Or a sub machine gun. A lot of militaries stocked high pressure 9mm to give their SMG's a bit more power. Using 10mm would've given even more power and without the risk of accidently loading it into and blowing up a standard service pistol.
None of your Business 337 it’s overrated against humans. If you’re going on a walkabout and might need to shoot something a bit bigger (read: cougars and black bears) then it’s great
HK grey room, I died and went to heaven well done .
I live not far from it, but I will probably never get a chance to step inside.
The missing punctuation had me imagining you as a steak, well done, that went to heaven. English is not my first language and sometimes I misunderstand things.
@@barkebaat oh lol
Taolan8472 same. I live in Ashburn about 3 miles from this place. Pass by it every time I go to class.
I actually got to spend a short time there in 1998 when it was in Sterling, VA. Back when I had some connections, lol.
"I'm here today at HK's grey room." those are my favorite words ever put on TH-cam
Followed by Ian slowing sweeping his hands apart and saying, "Welcome to Fantasy Island..."
It's a slick model, i feel it wouldn't be out of place in a cyberpunk setting.
That and the IWI Jericho.
The Jericho is for film noire. ;)
That is the tipe of ting a iec corpo would have
The original CyberPunk 2020 was very much of this era (written in 91-93) and there's a well made 'Sternmeyer Type 35' chambered in 11mm from the 'United Germanies'. Kinda feels like this guy, right?
@@wraithcadmus they clearly predicted the USP
/s
That would have done VERY well in the United States during the 90s , imho .
Specifically 94-04 .
Learning to fly not for $10k a pistol though lol
I was literally searching this gun 40 minutes ago, and now i come back to this. *Happy Noises*
Feel free to record the happy noises for our listening
I can hear the meetings between H&K branches "We have made a brand new police 9mm pistol!" -Europe
"Great, does it come in .45?" -America
-sigh-
You laugh....I have relatives here in USA who think EXACTLY like that...8)
Some Americans think like that still. Real gun enthusiasts that are not 1000 years old recognize 9mm as the best handgun caliber.
@@calska140 it's always fine as long as you at least recognize the merits of all the other pistol rounds out there
@@StevenL00 Yeah...I am partial to the 9x18 as a compact self defense solution for example. Fortunately we have some good .45 ACP options in the Glock G30 line and
I actually ENJOYED shooting the squeeze cocker P7 in 9mm years ago actually...
@@JamesMelzer999 no such thing as the best handgun caliber cause all handgun calibers suck
Thankful to own a surplus HK P7.. Fantastic firearm, wish HK would bring them back.
I want to see one in .40S&W.
That would be awesome if HK brought it back
@@longshot7601 They exist - P7M10. Rare and pricey, but can be had if you have the cash. Also kind of ugly IMO, as the slide is quite higher on the .40
@@filmfan8116 I just looked up an auction from 2011. Ouch. Production firearms are better for me since getting spare parts and magazines could be a pain.
I really enjoyed shooting the P7 in 9mm once I got used to the squeeze cocker.
@@longshot7601 A lack of spare parts and the collectible value made me stop using my P7s as my EDC. I really wish they would bring them back though. I love my P7s, they are by far my favorite handguns. But I never really cared for the M10. Too ugly and being that expensive will likely keep it out of my collection.
"Nice suit. John Phillips, London. I have two myself"
What was it you said to me before "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucka"...
Rumor has it Arafat buys his there.
"You asked for miracles Theo, I give you the F..B..I"
"Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs..."
Terrorist: (goes into ballistic $h*t fit rage)
Holly: Only John could make someone that angry. 🙂
Just a hunch, but could the missing parts be due to it being "converted" to simple blowback to cycle blanks as a prop gun?
I think it is rare as heck to find. (and quite fragile it seems) So rare most people just ended up manifacturing their own if they are still using the gun.
@@wanaan It would not be fragile at all
I bought my dad a HK p7 nickel plated 9mm . Great gun and super accurate . And yeah after a lot of rounds it gets HOT , once you squeezed cocked the striker it took a lot less pressure to hold it cocked . Slim and points naturally . It was a Father's Day gift .
"...yes, it could be made - but it would be like 10 grand a pistol..."
...in other words, [German_accent_engage]"STOP ASKING ABOUT IT, guys, we're not making the damn thing!"[German_accent_disengage]
"Stop aßking ahbout it, gaiz, we are not machen ze damn zing!"
Yippy ki yay
@@venmita Or, to put it in even simpler terms, "NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!"
No, I remember in one scene in MV when a suspect was in an airport and trying to get away from being captured, he ran down a corridor and tried to shoot Tubbs, with an HK P7 pistol. Tubbs returned fire and dispatched him. I remember the episode clearly because I had just read an article about the P7 days prior.
Ian's comment about Michael Mann's love of guns explains the level of detail in the movie Heat. Am I right in thinking that Val Kilmer's AR reload during the firefight after the bank robbery is still used as an exemplar during recruit training?
Only 6 made, it is in the top 5 truly forgotten weapons.... that would be a good idea for a video, hint.
Whoosh
Hans Gruber was going to buy one when he was sitting on his beach earning his 20%.
@@chuck2998 ...in what way is this comment 'whoosh'?
Harder whoosh
@@wanderingranger4208 came here to post something about Hans Gruber, damn you beat me to it!
All my love for .45 is from my childhood. Rarely carry a .45 anymore.
Man I want a p7 of any variety for my collection. Hans Gruber told me they were great so I want one bad!
Tfw I'm tryna listen to Ian talk about the P7 but that G36 in the background is looking like a snacc
I absolutely love the looks of the P7. Such an elegant pistol.
H&K Pistols are AWESOME!
Always loved the simple design of the p7 family.
What a shame... There isn't a 007 P7M7.
James Bond is disappointed.
Well... if there was... do you think we would know about it? ;-)
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I AM FANGIRLING HARD!!!!.... THE P7 IN .45 CAL AND IN THE GREY ROOOOOOMMMMM!!! THANKS GUN JESUS!!!!!
WHAT'S NEXT??? SOVIET NUCLEAR ERA GUNS, GROZA OR SOME WEIRD OTS OR THE FOLDING PP90 OR THE BULLPUP AK WITHOUT BOLT TRAVEL????
Perfect fit for a BMW's driver's side dash cubbyhole.
Thanks H&K and Ian!
"That, that never was," came to my mind! Well, at least they tried, checked it out and put it on the shelf. Cool piece though!
P7’s are a classic
Can’t believe the prices know for them. In the 80s they went for 700 dollars 💵 .had I known that I should have bought a few hindsight 20/20 .
HK has the habit of building over-engineered guns. I carried a P7M13 and a P7M8 for a couple of years while I was working close protection (I didn't pick them - they've been issued to me). The grip cocking feature is prone to failure due to breaking springs and what not and because of the gas delayed system it gets smoking hot in no time. Not to mention the ridiculous weight for a fairly compact pistol. What's good about it is that barrel is so close to the index finger. Helps a great deal with instinctive shooting and fast follow ups.
Fired the P7 in 9mm NATO when stationed in Germany in the 80's and wished our army had it as an option. All the men and the female soldiers loved it and were able to hit 25 meter targets consistently. This contrasts the Beretta which is about 50/50.
Was supposed to qualify with the M9 back in 2000 or so, never did.
It felt like a VCR tape in my hand and I didn't feel confident in the firearm.
Our one LT cracked a joke that he'd be more accurate by throwing it ninja star style instead.
that cartridge's called "9mm Parabellum", or 9x19. the "NATO" cartridges are 5.56x45 and 7.62x51
I qualified expert with the M9. It was a fine weapon when not shot to shit.
@@StevenL00 Nice bit of nitpicking there, but no. The stuff we were using was hot. Really hot, and loaded for submachineguns, so we called it NATO to differentiate it from US ammo that was loaded less powerfully. Firing 9mm NATO in weak-ass M-9's is why so many of them failed early on. P7's just kept on trucking.
@@grrrlbreaker Quite right. 9mm NATO spec is slightly hotter than +P (124 grains @ 36,500 psi). In British service it was refered to as '2Z' and was definitely loaded with Sterling SMGs in mind, rather than Browning Hi-Powers.
Thank you , Ian .
The finish on that beautiful pistol is delectable....
I had the pleasure of seeing this pistol in 1998. I had cultivated a good relationship with the guy that was their law enforcement liaison at the time and got to visit their Gray Room. Those were good days. A lot of cool stuff in a relatively small room.
Such a beautiful gun
I like it and wish they had mass produced it. Looks like something you could carry.
Holy grail.
Imagine Crockett having one strapped to his lower leg.
Whenever I think of the H&K P7 I also think of Hans Gruber..
H&K, Amazing, but so hard to get parts for that even they have trouble getting their *own* parts.
Love it when i refresh with an instant Gun Jesus Vid :-D
Fixed barrel .45? Probably a dream suppressed
HK just flat denied the existence of the thing in 85-86, even though a copy had been seen.
I don't think they ever really got it to work.
When are you going to review the MSG-90?
How about the AA-12? 😀
Hoping for that review too, to pair it with the PSG-1
Love that H&K e-nickel finish. Some years ago i had a chance to buy a nickel M10 .40 at an LGS. I think they had $800 or $900 on it and were willing to take $700. I knew that was a decent price and it would hold its value, but at that point i had never paid that much for a single firearm before, so i passed. (Over the years later i would pay $1500 for an M1A Scout, nearly $800 for a Bushmaster, $700 for a Krag, and $850 for a Garand, but i digress). Later i learned that an acquaintance bought it, and flipped it in a matter of months for i think $1500. I would have kept it i'm sure. Anyway, missed opportunity. HK never seems to have been big on .45 ACP until the USP.
My HK P-7 M8 is my favorite pistol, I would have loved to have had the opportunity to have bought a .45ACP version in the 1980's, and I was trying to buy one and had my gun dealer at the time order one for me from HK US but they were never able to fufill the order. Now I know why... My P7 is stamped made in West Germany, which I think is so cool, I have a .300 Weatherby that also has that on the barrel.
Ian you must now embark on a epic journey to obtain a working P7M7.
cant wait for the video on the k3 variant of this because i think its gonna be very interessting to see what they did different to make this think work with smaller calibers
"Bleed hole" is also a technical term for paramedics.
They must have been using this particular one to shoot blanks in the "Miami Vice". Hence the abscence of the hydraulic buffer.
very cool
Great Point 2:03-lower ballistic pressure and heavier projectile didn’t work in the .45 as it had in the 9mm
Damn you Ian. Because of you I bought a goddamn p7 psp. Why do these have to be such awesome guns?!
The brass finish is quite neat ...
Like to see a story done on the LLAMA XC-1 AUTO PISTOL. 45ACP C1995, apparently in production for 3 years only...
Might have to try and sneak that one out!
Sometime started with the piston...
Forgotten weapons please read this cause I was looking around and found a pistol that is a myth on youtube but was made in 1970s and was stopped being made in the 90s it's called the p5 and resembles a ppk without the long barrel in my opinion but the craziest thing is it resembles a p38 with a long barrel PLEASE DO A REVIEW
Massive shame that these aren't in production any more.
Looked good;but a finicky ,repair-prone beast!
The advertisement for the military clothing I've never laughed so hard, what was the name of the company"I should be good for another six months😂😂😂😂
They made one that shot blue plastic training rounds too.
"Hi, I'm Ian McCollum "
I still won't ever forget that I named a character after you.
Very cool video, great work. It blows my mind that in the H&K gray room there is a firearm that doesn't function. I am certain if I was the boss I would have an engineer working on fixing it. Also are we sure Tom Selleck doesn't have one? He has the Quigley rifle, he loaned to Iraqvet8888 for a show.
Gas delayed blowback should be able to handle the bigger .45 recoil, unless there isn't enough space to fit a larger diameter pistol/cylinder to compensate .45 recoil.
The problem may be the low pressure cannot provide enough energy to the spring to reliably drive the ejact and loading cycle after losing most energy to the gas delay process. So HK replace it with the less effective damper delay.
Get a good look at this gun boys. Were never ever see one again. Lol that's why I love this show
Next up - a detailed review of P7M10 please 🙏🙏🙏
I like the color finish on the .45
A 45 Auto handgun with a nice trigger? I think Jeff Cooper would have been interested.
Hmm, I'm intrigued by this 'cold buffer' for .380 version.
Hk. Please bring back. I will pay ludicrous moneys for one.
I still carry my HK PSP.
Crazy this is in my feed today while watching Die Hard!
Micheal Mann wanted character Sonny Crockett to own very hi-tech and very successfull guns only on the show. As the Bren Ten was discontinued, Sonny Crockett couldn't use a 'failed' weapon, thus he swap it with a S&W 456 (or 4506, I don't remember). He probably never got along with h&k about this... Even if he was doing Miami Vice 'just for the money', he had a religious approach to some creative ideas already.
So many chances to buy the 9mm back in the day. Wish I would have. After reading about a good guy cops killed when he released squeeze and they thought he cocked gun I never wanted to carry one.
Would the gas pressure issue have been resolved if they had made in .45 Super instead? .45ACP is rated at 21,000 PSI, .45 +P is rated at 23,000 PSI, .45 Super is rated at 28,000 PSI. 9mm is 35,000 PSI though, so maybe .460 Rowland? That's 40,000 PSI. 10mm Auto is closer to 9mm, at 37,500 PSI.
An HK P7 in 10mm Auto. *sigh* What could have been...
Good looking gun.
Did HK tell you how many rounds it took till the hydraulic damper started leaking? And, did they tell about the costs-proportion between the damper and the rest of the gun?
Its beautiful. I want it...
So, if that's one of the Miami Vice guns, could prepping it for on set blank shooting account for the absence of the hydraulic buffer thingy? Or would blanks still be powerful enough to cycle everything?
The P7 is one my dream handguns before I even learned muzzle discipline when I was a kid, and it'll be always the too expensive piece of machinery even as an airsoft I'll never afford. If I stop to think about, 4 out of 5 of my dream handguns are HKs. At least I own my favorite P30
I wonder if it would have worked in 10mm, given the higher pressure
"Don't tempt me Frodo! I"
Yes there are P7M10s
@@wongben7805 .40 isn't 10mm
Sweet looking gun.👍
I remember seeing this in a magazine
Wait.. what?! A 45er cal. has less gasenergie as a 9mm cal.?? I had thought its other way round
Ceramic pistol from GTA 5
MAKE A UMP VIDEO PLEASE I WANT TO SEE THE DISASSEMBLY OF THE UMP
Where are the other 5 I wonder? Also if the gas delay system could handle 10mm.. I'd like to see this pistol reintroduced!
Heinz's gun...... I thought that was left on the top of Nakatomi towers.
Seems that they could have done away with the awkward heat shield in the trigger guard since it was no longer gas operated.
ive been squeeze cocking for years. Crazy to think i have this pistol to thank
I collect P7s and have been looking for any info on this pistol for years. Thank you for sharing this video. The plating has a gold tone, do you think it's nickel or something else?
I wish I had one of these for a month so I could create some cad drawings of it.
HK seems to have a love hate relationship with the .45
@@internetbodhi1009 hence love hate
So where are all 6? The missing parts on this one, are they around or can be replaced?
"pushes on the slide forward which prevents it from opening" - strictly speaking it doesn't. It reduces the acceleration, and thus the speed, but the slide starts going back right away, only in this case more slowly than it would be in a simple blowback.
Unless I'm mistaken? But I don't see how
I assume without the hydraulic buffer the gun shown is non functional. Are any of the other examples actually operational?
Wow, that's really compact for a .45. I ove the cocking lever/grip safety. That's how they get away with such a decent trigger on a "Double action." It's really a Single/Double action, but by putting the cocking mechanism in the grip safety, they can give you ALMOST a single action trigger, with all the advantages of a DAO CCW pocket pistol. (Which usually has a DAO trigger pull, like a C.O.P. .357.) Any chance they'll let you take that out to shoot it? I'm curious what the muzzle flip must be like in .45. The 9mm is a bit of a wrist twister, but it's a high velocity CCW. You kinda have to expect that.
More specifically, the Market they're going for was Police CCW, not civilian. This was supposed to be like what we'd call the "Detective Special" over here. I'd assume that because of the long history of Uncle Sam insisting on a .45 for almost a century, they thought they might interest US in it. Since .45 Browning is pretty well known as "America's caliber" worldwide.
Cool video! Have you done one on the roller-locked P9?
EDIT: nevermind I found it... and it's a pretty good video, despite being a bit old now, so I don't think it needs updating!
P7M7 would be great host for a suppressor. Fixed barrel, naturally subsonic. Alas, was not to be.
Seems to me a .45 P7 would have taken a bite out of Glock's LE sales in the 80's, particularly with eastern US highway patrols and state police.
No! That thing was heavy and the"squeeze-cock" mechanism was a finicky pain-in-the -ass.You always needed to own two/three,as one was always on a 3-month repair!
Only up to 006...? Aw come on H&K! Just one more and you could have sold it at a premium! :P
Oh man... the ad I got in front of this was great... The prince will dead when turns he 18
Looks like a staplegun!
Wow, wish that was a production gun. I'm sure that they would have sold.