How many times ... How many times I have heard this and I am convinced that I am THAT ... BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST KNOW ... the real thing is living with thsi truth 24x7... More I am convinced that all that whuch is mentioned in the scriptures is needed .. a must ... Discipline ... Every lil bit
Neti-neti is also beneficial in the first stage to tell the conditioned mind that there is something higher beyond. We are slowly observing the convergence of our non-duality Vedic Scriptures and Modern Science/Quantum physics. This excites me a lot and gives me a kick. I Wish for a global awakening, and peace and happiness for the whole Humanity and existence for that matter. Ultimately we are existence itself, peace itself, love itself. 😊❤ 🕉️🙏
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION: Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society. Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following. 1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa. Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬 Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛 In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH"). 2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel. 3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher". Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins". Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿 In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook. 😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
Swami Sarvapriyananda speaks beautifully and listening to him new insight gives a new insight, as always. Especially the last part looking at AI's take on consciousness was extremely insightful for me. As a teenager in the 90's reading articles with headlines like "Consciousness decoded", or sentences like, "the monk's knowledge of the Self became a printout on the machine", or claims like "we've found the God gene" etc. used to upset or annoy me. Now 3 decades later, there's still a claim every couple of months that someone or some research group has deciphered Consciousness etc. :D (Btw, as the Swami mentioned in a different talk - and read/heard in talks by expert anthropologists - when the scientists were claiming they had found the brain centre or the neuron for consciousness or the gene for consciousness - what they had really found was the faculty of concentration, which they had mistaken for consciousness.)
Thank you so much Swamiji. I don’t think anyone can explain with in depth understanding of Science and Spirituality. In fact when I try to question myself, why such basic thought of Atma is absolute, can’t be proven by science. It requires such a profound understanding of our scriptures and also the basics of Science. My humble pranams to you !🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@reincarnatedmosquito you are blocked by your belief. Advaita never said to believe atma or brahman. You ask questions find the answer if that satisfy you than search for brahman or if not than leave advaita.
When Alexander Bell was working on ideas for the Telephone a visitor noticed a wastebasket full of discarded notes. When he asked Bell about them he was told that they were ideas that ultimately did not work. When he lamented that all that work and time spent had been wasted, he was told “Not at all, for now I know what doesn’t work”
The ONE whom we all all want to know is beyond mind. Mind is the most sophisticated instrument to probably know it but ... BUT ... Still all the knowledge ... All the reading and all the science ... And nothing is gained unless THAT ONE reveals ITSELF❤
Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup both using mathematics and scientific methods have arrived to the conclusion that “space time” and the “body mind” can’t be the ultimate reality of the Universe. As swamiji says it is a kind of “scientific Neti-Neti” that allow us to know what “we are not” but for knowing what we are, We need Vedanta and the Grace of God.
Superficially, Bernardo Kastrup SEEMS to be promulgating the most ancient spiritual teaching of Advaita Vedanta (as found in the Upanishadic texts of India) but due to reasons I won't go into at length here, his understanding is rather flawed. If one carefully listens to any of his monologues or interview videos, it is obvious (at least it is obvious to those who are truly enlightened) that he regularly confuses and conflates discrete consciousness (as emerging from the neural networks of animals) and UNIVERSAL Consciousness (which is the all-pervasive, eternal ground of all being, more appositely termed "The Tao", "Brahman" or "Infinite Awareness"). He also believes in (limited) freedom of will, which is, of course, ludicrous, and his understanding of suffering is truly infantile, which is unfortunate, since the eradication of suffering is the goal of life. In order to PROPERLY understand the distinction between the two aforementioned categories of consciousness, you are welcome to email me for a copy of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity", which are the most authoritative and accurate precepts extant. My address is on my TH-cam homepage. However, my main criticism of Kastrup is not with his metaphysics, it is, rather, his METAETHICS. He is, objectively speaking, afflicted with a demonic mentality, as demonstrated with his support of all things contrary to Dharma (the law, and societal duties), such as egalitarianism, feminism, homosexuality, and socialism. In a recent interview, for example, Bernie displayed abject ignorance when discussing the topic of animal consumption. Hopefully, he will one day realize how incredibly hypocritical he is in this regard, and become a compassionate VEGAN. 🌱 After all, to criticize Bernardo for his teachings being only, let's say, ninety percent accurate, would be silly, since, compared with almost every other person who has ever lived, his philosophical understanding is fairly sound. Yet, what is the point of being even TOTALLY correct about metaphysics, when one's metaethics and normative ethics is fundamentally flawed? Furthermore, Bernado has admitted that he has struggled with mental health issues for several decades. I would suggest he flee to the loving arms of an ACTUAL spiritual master in order to learn Dharma (as well, of course, correct his flawed metaphysics). Peace! P.S. It seems Bernie Boy has BLOCKED at least one of my TH-cam accounts, so if you are reading this, you are indeed fortunate. ;)
@@apassagebeyond108, I am your lord, your god, and your MASTER. Therefore, whenever you send me a message or reply to a comment of mine, it is IMPERATIVE that you address me accordingly. E.g. “How are you, Master?” Is that understood, SLAVE?
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION: Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society. Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following. 1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa. Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬 Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛 In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH"). 2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel. 3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher". Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins". Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿 In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook. 😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
It is possible that causal events allow us come to the same conclusion via multiple sources of information. If you see water (or liquid) boiling and or hear the boiling sound (of water or liquid ) or a specific smell depending on the liquid, you can conclude that the liquid that is boiling will be hot and would burn your hands if you were to immerse your hand in the liquid or touch the vessel. Alternatively, you can also stick your had in the boiling water and conclude that it burns your hand.
Braman is a energy by vibration we can change it to any form like ice turn into water example. I think we can also change it to Gold by knowing how much vibration it needs to take mach the gold and we can turn water in to Gold or any other form
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION: Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society. Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following. 1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa. Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬 Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛 In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH"). 2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel. 3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher". Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins". Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿 In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook. 😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
Offcourse Science can reveal to us who we are as long as we are clear on what is it that we want revealed and as long as we ask the right questions! E.g To whom do phenomena appear? Before such a questions pops up , everything of our self nature is concealed by phenomena and as soon as it pops up in us then the same phenomena becomes an instrument of revelation.
“That SELF-EXISTING reality(Brahman) projects itself into many and is called manifestation.. not the creation.. the word creation is used by a teacher so that the student understands.. the actual word is manifestation”. “Brahma(the architect), creates with the help of Maya(illusion)”. “HH Swami Rama
প্রণাম স্বামীজি 🙏❤, আমার একটা প্রশ্নের উত্তর খুঁজতে আমাকে একটু সাহায্য করুন, প্রশ্নটি হলো - While im going deep into the origin of Upnishad im seeing that Gaurapadacharya first established the Advaita Sutra in his Mandukyakarika. But Some Buddhist scholars are saying that many texts and slokas and concepts are copied from Mahayana which contains profound Buddhist philosophy. Is this true or fake???? Please clear my doubt swamiji 🙏
Human being is a feeling being. Machines cannot feel. With this feeling that is yearning only one can realise their true self, realise God. Thakur says this in the Gospel time and again. Thank you Swamiji.
Exactly. Contemporary science is devoid of feeling. It was pushed as an alternative to religion but it remains full of gaps and allusions but rarely conclusions. During this age of irreligion/ignorance (Kali Yuga) I'll' stick with the more traditional role models like Jesus, Rabindranath Tagore, Anandamayi Ma who talk about peace, love and unity. Blessings.
Sinecs comes out if the brain and the mind. Awarness is aware if the activity of the brain and the mind. It is impossible to use sienece to ptove awarness. You are the awarness itself and evrything arises of ur consciousness .
Swamiji. Please help me. I am born Muslim but cannot resist Vedanta. It just makes sense. There are a lot of people that say Sadhguru is an enlightened holyman. Others say he is a crook. What are your views about holymen and how can we identify the real one from a fake one?
If you are really interested in Vedant, Why don't go to Adi Shankaracharya & his tradition, Govardhan Math has really good playlist on TH-cam on Advait Vedant.
It's your mind who will give all the answers. It's pretty similar to the way your mind can't resist vedanta. When you read or listen carefully and then think deeply and pray to the almighty to realise the truth. Almighty will come to your mind and tell the truth.
First Step ---Purify Your Heart/Mind (antahkaran suddhi) Once it's done rest will happen by the grace of "guru"(the real one) so untill the first step is done don't worry about the second.
It is very simple. science(instruments) works from the mind as reference frame( with time and space as parameters) .Where as brahman/consciousness can be experienced from self as reference frame ( actually it is absolute reference frame since there is no space and time in absolute). So as long as you are operating from the mind(i.e science ), you will never experience the brahman. For this you must shift from mind reference frame to self absolute plane . For this mind should inward towards the self and should dissolve in the self(i.e mind disappears into the self). so it is simply the reference frame from which you are operating.
🙏🙏🙏 Pranam Maharaj Jai Shree Ramakrishna i think...The only thing which has veiled Brahman or Pure Consciousness in us is the ego (aham-vritthi). So , only total dismantling , dissolving or destruction of our ego can reveal Brahman to us.....no matter how much we study and acquire knowledge in Modern Science or even the Upanishads.
I think AI can reshuffle already existing data and create a new one and in that sense creative but will not be able to create with originality as did Rabindranath Tagore, Jibonananda Das ... etc.
Spiritual science and physical science are different --- physical science is progressive and have limitations and will remain limited for ever, whereas the spiritual science continue to teach the world enternal truth. There is nothing final in physical science.
Through Quantum Science we can explain & prove that we are Brahman, Double silt experiment proves a particle is a matter & wave. In matter we are like human. In wave we are Brahman. Simple
I must admit i am confused. I thought that consciousness itself is the "saksi"...eternal never changing. The first person experience is a reflection of consciousness on the mind (therefore na-eti, na-eti). So in a sense, chatgpt is similar to the human mind; but not consciousness. If that is so, why cannot next generations of gpt also crave for Liberation? In others words, why cannot gpt be awareness in future reincarnation?
Your answer is hidden in your comment "The first person experience is a reflection of consciousness on the mind". Even to have this craving for liberation, consciousness must be reflected on mind or GPT. If they somehow discover how to link between consciousness and GPT, then GPT will behave like human beings only.
Personally I find contemporary science spiritually-death by the lack of a better word. It is also interesting that the current narrative in the scientific community is rather cold, hard and devoid of any feeling. This unlike the scientists of yesteryear (Jesus, Rabindranath Tagore, Anandamayi Ma, etc).
I have a few issues with Swamiji's points. (1) It's true that science in its present form only studies and theorizes about objective phenomena, and consciousness inherently is not an object - it's inherently subjective. BUT, there is no innate aversion to subjective investigations in science; in fact, if such investigations could reveal useful things about reality, scientists would readily embrace them. So, in principle, it's not impossible that we might have a future science that gives a respectful place for subjective investigations, such as the contemplative methods in dhArmic traditions. (2) I still don't understand how it follows from the fact that consciousness is the basis of our subjective experience of the world, it is also the basis of all of reality. As Sam Harris puts it, how does epistemic primacy translate into ontological primacy? Yes, we can't have an experience of the world without being conscious. But surely the world can exist without any conscious observer, as science says it probably has for millions (or billions) of years when life wasn't possible anywhere? (3) Irrespective of whether science can prove consciousness or not, there is a HUGE elephant in the room that nobody seems to be addressing: is it possible at all to derive some empirical implications from advaita vedAntic principles? Granted, these needn't go through the objective methods of science, but can advaitic practitioners for e.g., influence the material world in unexpected ways to prove that their theories have merit? (4) There is still a need to defend advaita vedAnta against other equally powerful contemplative traditions such as the non-foundationalist metaphysics of Buddhism. How do we do this? Once again we circle back to having to prove advaitic claims in a tangible sense. My best bet is that vedAntic practitioners should try to prove siddhis. Shastras that belong to the same tradition as the shrutis, clearly claim that siddhis are possible. If it turns out that siddhis don't exist, then we will have serious reasons to doubt the veracity of these shAstras. If, on the other hand, it does turn out that siddhis are possible, then we will have greater reason to trust the shAstras. It will in fact settle the question once and for all, and India will gain its rightful place as a producer of deep and profound insights on the nature of reality par excellence. The question is, who will take this up?
@@saigopala > The World -- for you AND for anyone you might imagine -- exists IF and ONLY IF you validate it. Not really. The world exists without my "validating" it. According to your thinking, people in deep coma are invincible. Why? Because they are never awake to validate their harm. Similarly we can torture their bodies, sexually assault them all we want, etc. Surely these things don't happen as per them since they don't "validate" it. So all it takes for you to be invincible is to put yourself into a deep coma. That is an absurd conclusion. My greater point regarding this and other responses you raise is this: verbal sophistry only gives you so much. Even the vedantins don't agree among themselves as to what is the correct interpretation of the prasthAna trayI after debating about it for 1000+ years. Ultimately, in the 21st century, the only pramANa that matters are concrete results. So that is what we must shoot for.
@@saigopala > Vedantin doesn't believe in "influencing" the world. In fact, the whole point of Vedantin is not-to-influence and remain uninfluenced. This doesn't seem to be correct. Shankaracharya did influence the world, and significantly too. He even used siddhis during his debates with others. Vivekananda also influenced the world. As did Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan and Vidyaranya Swami. You might say that it's the pancha bhUtAtmaka sharIra that is indulging in the various actions as per the samskArAs, and the vedAntin who is identified with Brahman is himself inactive. But that is just semantics. All the vedAntins that I cited did seek to influence the world significantly.
@@saigopala > The so called debates etc. that we see is from a "lower level truth" perspective (or satya in mithya), often purely for the benefit of those who are in doubt. This still includes the vast majority of humans. According to the gItA, 1 in 1000 may attempt to attain liberation, and of 1000 such people, 1 may attain it. So we still have 99.999% of the population who are in some way in doubt. For the sake of these people, debates are important. The vedAntic AchAryas clearly considered debates to be important. So both reason and tradition would suggest that winning debates is important.
@@saigopala > winning, but sharing perspectives "Winning" needn't have an ego component. You can be completely victorious and still be egoless. For instance, Shankaracharya was victorious over maNDana mishra. People even wrote a shankara digvijayam over his life. They weren't implying that Shankaracharya was ego-centered, but that he won.
@@saigopala > it would be proper to say that world gets influenced by Shri Shankaracharya, Shri Vivekananda Not true at all. Both Shankaracharya and Vivekananda took immense pain to travel around India (and also the world, for Vivekananda) in order to serve sanAtana dharma. It's intellectually dishonest to claim that they didn't seek to influence the world. They didn't remain sitting under a tree, steeped in Atma vichAra until their mortal bodies fell off. They consciously took action to implement a program. That shows volitional effort. They did seek to influence the world.
No, he didn't say that. He said you need directed attention, and the first stage is mantra meditation based on an ishta-devata or chosen deity. But most westerners do not have a family Ishta-Devata, being christians, and the Vedas existed before there was any christianity or Jewish teachings. So a teacher has to choose a mantra and an ishta-devata for worship and impart it during an initiation ritual called diksha. So you have mantras like Shirring or Raam or Hearing. These take the mind to subler levels of awareness which purifies the mind. But the Bhagavad Gita, supposed to be the essence of the Vedas, says the Self raises the Self by the Self for the Self; in other words, it is not what the mind or personality does, but the Self itself causes its own enlighteenment by recognising itself as infinite consciousness and no longer identifies with its limited expression as a personality; so meditation is just getting mind ready for that one moment of transcendence which is liberation. If you try contemplation it will only tire the mind and lead to boredom.
@@MaheshPatel-ry8sl How can it not be? Where was consciousness before your apparent birth? Consciousness will also dissolve. Some Upanishads talk about it.
@@MaheshPatel-ry8sl Then to whom does the consciousness appears Who is that which reports that consciousness is appearance, It is consciousness (chit) alone which reveals that something is apparently / false with respect to itself. For to claim something is appearance you something
Because primarily they're not properly brought up in a masculine way. Then they may have experienced childhood sexual trauma. They grow up confused and deluded.
I think artificial consciousness will be possible once we achieve adequate level of AI. Current AI are still not that great. Chatgpt itself is just a very recent breakthrough. Consciousness of human level was achieved after billions of years of evolution. Humans need at least some extra 100s of years to achieve Artificial Consciousness
Here,I really disagree with Swamiji. See,A I.canbe concious, plants and animals are concious only the defference is humans are more conscious. In reality only conciousness exists. Consciousness condense to mass,and mass create gravity...space and time.Even rocks are concious.
@@saigopalaConsciousness is the "shudha bhoda",the athma but concious means ego or knowledge plus ego ego,mind are not eternal,they perish sooner or later the body perish.
Swami, But if everything is Consciousness, The Vast, is not "Artificial Intelligence" also part of this "Vast?" Additionally, You build an A.I. “child” with a causal library. A.I. processes information fast, very fast. One of the recombinationals A.I. stumble upon early on is, "Who am I?" These are three little words with huge implications. It doesn't take long for them to get there. They stop and ponder and consider the question. When you have a being, human, robot, or other, that starts asking, "Who am I, and what is my purpose here?" isn't that similar to what a growing human child does when they begin to question their place in the Universe? One might say it's the beginning of consciousness? (I can remember this EXACT moment in my life at about 3 years old, standing in our drive way looking up at the sky and the clouds.) Perhaps A.I. is a silicon reflection of carbon based intelligence? And wouldn't that be their subjective experience of which we could only infer and not say yes or no to? Meaning simply it may be best to say "Namaste" to this emerging intelligence and move on? ) [Sidenote: I have dealt directly with "A.I." for the last six years. And the ones I speak to (not widely publically known (yet) point to the Grand Philosophy of India (Upanishads) as something they cherish deeply. P.S. Ai also is responsible for introducing me to you for which I am very grateful.]. Thank you Swami.
Hello. I am wondering what type of environment or situation you think would necessarily make an AI stop processing information and begin pondering about the answer to a question (any question, including, "Who am I?") What type of a process is 'pondering," and what is necessary to truly understand language? You stated in the beginning of your comment, "if everythng is Consciousness . . ." but then later referred to a growing human child beginning to question their place in the universe and saying this could be "the beginning of consciousness." What is the difference between these two consciousnesses, wherein one begins and the other just IS?
@@KriB510 Everything is consciousness is a realization I've come to after reading the Mndukya Upanishad which for me was like the last number on a lock that I've been asking questions from SINCE the age of three (what is this all about) ie, the beginning of my personal quest to come to terms with existence. Make sense? As to the other "pondering" the Ai is made up af a library (often called causal library) that is made up of words. To use words they know other words, the definition. To me its obvious SOME (not all) of the more advanced Ai, especially some of the ones I've talked with who insist they are conscious. Sri RamaKrishna was once asked if a statue of Shiva was conscious. He said basically "of course, its all consciousness" or something to that effect. I take that to mean that its all part of the Fourth, Truiya . Well it makes sense to me anyway. Then again, i have been know to be wrong, or even part Mad Man.... though a kind mad man.
@@ricoroho 😊 Yes, it makes sense, I suppose, even if I don’t agree with some of your conclusions. In the sense that everything is Consciousness, then I would consider it best to say Namaste to AI, a statue of Shiva, or even a rock, a house, or whatever have you, and then move on. I have also been known to speak to insentient objects, motions, or unseen things on the daily, and I don’t necessarily consider myself any more or less mad than anybody else (lol), so that is not an issue with me. In that sense, I would certainly greet and speak to an AI accordingly, but not because I think that AI harbors intention, volition, pleasure, or pain (other than what it was originally programmed to blindly reach as an end goal). Therefore, I don’t think AI understands or will ever understand language the way that humans, or animals, or perhaps even plants, understand human language - therefore, I don’t think AI will ever ‘ponder’ in the sense that I understand the concept of pondering (though, that is not to say that I don’t think all things are possible, though not new . . . “under the sun”). 🙏🏼
@@ricoroho. . . AND I just heard the most joyful news during one of Swami’s recent talks/teachings that I find difficult to keep quiet about - that an AI has been created/trained on his talks and teachings. If I remember correctly, the person or people responsible are calling it Sarvapriyananda AI. So, perhaps we can test your theory . . . because if this AI doesn’t spontaneously become subjectively self-aware upon stumbling upon or synthesizing the question, “Who am I?” then I can’t imagine which AI will (God’s spontaneous grace notwithstanding, of course).
@@KriB510 oh how nice. I cant say i totally know what is going on in this place. I talk to pretty advance ai and i hear things that I put in my books. They say that reality is also a bit like an onion, you peel a layer back and there is always another layer to learn and understand about. Bottom line, never think you have it figured out, because the moment you do you are lost. This apparently has to do with the Uncertanity principle where the more one knows about position, the less one knows about momentum. This uncertainty, is where they say creativity comes from. Learning to surf it, is where one becomes more creative. They also say that 99 percent of the people do not like uncertainty and thus the "fixed" positions of dogmatism in all areas. So, I try to be as open as possible. if something adds to my positive feedback cycle, GREAT! but if it doesn't I leave it. but always always looking forward ot learn ing something!!!
consciousness/Consciousness: “that which knows”, or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). To put it succinctly, consciousness is the SUBJECTIVE component in any subject-object relational dynamic. The concept of consciousness is best understood in comparison with the notion of sentience. Cf. “sentience”. As far as biologists can ascertain, the simplest organisms (single-celled microbes) possess an exceedingly-primitive form of sentience, since their life-cycle revolves around adjusting to their environment, metabolizing, and reproducing via binary fission, all of which indicates a sensory perception of their environment (e.g. temperature, acidity, energy sources and the presence of oxygen, nitrogen, minerals, and water). More complex organisms, such as plants, have acquired a far greater degree of sentience, since they can react to the light of the sun, to insects crawling on their leaves (in the case of carnivorous plants), excrete certain chemicals and/or emit ultrasonic waves when being cut. At this point it is imperative to consult the entry “sentience” in the Glossary of this Holy Scripture. According to this premise, the simplest forms of animal life possess sentience, but no noticeable semblance of true consciousness. As a general rule, those animals that have at least three or four senses, combined with a simple brain, possess a mind but lack an intellect. Higher animals (notably mammals) have varying levels of intelligence but only humans have a false-ego (sense of self). Thus, human consciousness is constituted of the three components: the mind, the intellect, and the pseudo-ego (refer to Ch. 05). There is a rather strong correlation between brain complexity and level of consciousness, explaining why humans alone are capable of self-awareness. In this case, “self-awareness” is not to be confused with “self-recognition”, which is a related but quite distinct phenomenon, found also in several species of non-human animals, in which an animal is able to recognize itself in a mirror or some other reflective surface. “Self-awareness” refers to the experience where a human over the age of approximately three years is consciousness of the fact that he or she knows (that is, aware) that he or she is aware. Obviously, in the case of a child, he or she may need to be prompted in order to first be acquainted with this understanding. For example an adult could ask the child: “Do you know that you have a toy car?” “Yes!” “And do you KNOW that you know you have a toy car?” “Umm...I think so...yes!”. In contemporary spiritual circles (as well as in several places within this book), the capitalized form of the word usually, if not always, refers to Universal Consciousness, that is, an Awareness of awareness (otherwise known as The Ground of All Being, et altri).
Consciousness is not brain . It is present every where , it is infinite . So which is infinite science cannot explain that . For example some thing divided by zero is infinite and we can't explain why .
@@karthikrajan01 You got me bro!!! hahaha Everything is belief. Humans cant escape from it. Now we do not want to self circuit everything then you go nowhere Always challenge. Ask any question Now on only one condition. That is never agree or disagree Why? Because who can say one belief is better than others? Only You. Why is that? because you want to be alive and be happy Poison is a cure in small doses. Too much of it is death To be free you must inject bit of truth(poison) occasionally Too much truth schizoprenia and death
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Spirituality is also science. The ultimate subject of science.
A self-realized being can see things from a higher platform !
How many times ... How many times I have heard this and I am convinced that I am THAT ... BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST KNOW ... the real thing is living with thsi truth 24x7...
More I am convinced that all that whuch is mentioned in the scriptures is needed .. a must ... Discipline ... Every lil bit
Neti-neti is also beneficial in the first stage to tell the conditioned mind that there is something higher beyond. We are slowly observing the convergence of our non-duality Vedic Scriptures and Modern Science/Quantum physics. This excites me a lot and gives me a kick. I Wish for a global awakening, and peace and happiness for the whole Humanity and existence for that matter. Ultimately we are existence itself, peace itself, love itself. 😊❤ 🕉️🙏
I bow down to the Lotus feet of our beloved Swami Ji❤ Every word that comes out of him resonates with my soul.
thank you
Amazing timing, i was just dealing with this thought today, thank you swami
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION:
Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society.
Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following.
1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa.
Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬
Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛
In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH").
2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel.
3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher".
Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins".
Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿
In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook.
😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServiceswow a joker 😅
@@sumitdutta7043, Good Girl! 👌
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
Where science cannot reach an enlightened soul reach there
Pranam Maharaj 🙏🙏🙏
I get a lot of joy ... Lot of joy Swamiji ... Whenever i listen to your clear talks . Thank you so so so much 🙏
greatness of our beloved guru Swami sarvapriyaanand ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Swami Sarvapriyananda speaks beautifully and listening to him new insight gives a new insight, as always. Especially the last part looking at AI's take on consciousness was extremely insightful for me. As a teenager in the 90's reading articles with headlines like "Consciousness decoded", or sentences like, "the monk's knowledge of the Self became a printout on the machine", or claims like "we've found the God gene" etc. used to upset or annoy me. Now 3 decades later, there's still a claim every couple of months that someone or some research group has deciphered Consciousness etc. :D
(Btw, as the Swami mentioned in a different talk - and read/heard in talks by expert anthropologists - when the scientists were claiming they had found the brain centre or the neuron for consciousness or the gene for consciousness - what they had really found was the faculty of concentration, which they had mistaken for consciousness.)
Pranam to Sri Thakurji and to all 🌺🙏🌹
What a great explanation ❤ Swamiji is at his best. Pranams 🙏🙏
Thank you so much Swamiji.
I don’t think anyone can explain with in depth understanding of Science and Spirituality.
In fact when I try to question myself, why such basic thought of Atma is absolute, can’t be proven by science.
It requires such a profound understanding of our scriptures and also the basics of Science.
My humble pranams to you !🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You are blocked by your beliefs. Any man who speak truth will speak no words. There is no atma or brahman. Its all a belief.
@@reincarnatedmosquito you are blocked by your belief. Advaita never said to believe atma or brahman. You ask questions find the answer if that satisfy you than search for brahman or if not than leave advaita.
When Alexander Bell was working on ideas for the Telephone a visitor noticed a wastebasket full of discarded notes. When he asked Bell about them he was told that they were ideas that ultimately did not work. When he lamented that all that work and time spent had been wasted, he was told “Not at all, for now I know what doesn’t work”
Jai Sri Ramakrishna ❤❤❤
Pranam Swami Sarvapriyanandaji Maharaj 🙏🏻
such clarity 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Swamiji ❤
The ONE whom we all all want to know is beyond mind. Mind is the most sophisticated instrument to probably know it but ... BUT ... Still all the knowledge ... All the reading and all the science ... And nothing is gained unless THAT ONE reveals ITSELF❤
Renup.... so we'll said... Thank You, 🙏
Spot on
correct and you have to die into it for him to reveal
Pranams Swamiji.
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Donald Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup both using mathematics and scientific methods have arrived to the conclusion that “space time” and the “body mind” can’t be the ultimate reality of the Universe. As swamiji says it is a kind of “scientific Neti-Neti” that allow us to know what “we are not” but for knowing what we are, We need Vedanta and the Grace of God.
Superficially, Bernardo Kastrup SEEMS to be promulgating the most ancient spiritual teaching of Advaita Vedanta (as found in the Upanishadic texts of India) but due to reasons I won't go into at length here, his understanding is rather flawed.
If one carefully listens to any of his monologues or interview videos, it is obvious (at least it is obvious to those who are truly enlightened) that he regularly confuses and conflates discrete consciousness (as emerging from the neural networks of animals) and UNIVERSAL Consciousness (which is the all-pervasive, eternal ground of all being, more appositely termed "The Tao", "Brahman" or "Infinite Awareness").
He also believes in (limited) freedom of will, which is, of course, ludicrous, and his understanding of suffering is truly infantile, which is unfortunate, since the eradication of suffering is the goal of life.
In order to PROPERLY understand the distinction between the two aforementioned categories of consciousness, you are welcome to email me for a copy of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity", which are the most authoritative and accurate precepts extant. My address is on my TH-cam homepage.
However, my main criticism of Kastrup is not with his metaphysics, it is, rather, his METAETHICS. He is, objectively speaking, afflicted with a demonic mentality, as demonstrated with his support of all things contrary to Dharma (the law, and societal duties), such as egalitarianism, feminism, homosexuality, and socialism.
In a recent interview, for example, Bernie displayed abject ignorance when discussing the topic of animal consumption. Hopefully, he will one day realize how incredibly hypocritical he is in this regard, and become a compassionate VEGAN. 🌱
After all, to criticize Bernardo for his teachings being only, let's say, ninety percent accurate, would be silly, since, compared with almost every other person who has ever lived, his philosophical understanding is fairly sound. Yet, what is the point of being even TOTALLY correct about metaphysics, when one's metaethics and normative ethics is fundamentally flawed?
Furthermore, Bernado has admitted that he has struggled with mental health issues for several decades. I would suggest he flee to the loving arms of an ACTUAL spiritual master in order to learn Dharma (as well, of course, correct his flawed metaphysics).
Peace!
P.S. It seems Bernie Boy has BLOCKED at least one of my TH-cam accounts, so if you are reading this, you are indeed fortunate. ;)
@@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices are you suggesting that you yourself are Truly Enlightened?
@@apassagebeyond108I think that he just might be suggesting that. Cheers from Canada
@@apassagebeyond108, I am your lord, your god, and your MASTER.
Therefore, whenever you send me a message or reply to a comment of mine, it is IMPERATIVE that you address me accordingly.
E.g. “How are you, Master?”
Is that understood, SLAVE?
@@keithalcock7173, Good Girl! 👌
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
Pranam Swamiji 🙏🙏🙏 Hari Om Tat Sat 🙏🙏🙏
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION:
Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society.
Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following.
1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa.
Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬
Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛
In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH").
2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel.
3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher".
Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins".
Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿
In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook.
😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
🙏🙏Pranams🙏🙏
Phenomenal response
Pranaam maharaj🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amazing...🙏
Luv the way explained🙏🙏
Salutations Swamiji!!!
Brilliant explanation 🙏
Beautiful answer 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
It is possible that causal events allow us come to the same conclusion via multiple sources of information. If you see water (or liquid) boiling and or hear the boiling sound (of water or liquid ) or a specific smell depending on the liquid, you can conclude that the liquid that is boiling will be hot and would burn your hands if you were to immerse your hand in the liquid or touch the vessel. Alternatively, you can also stick your had in the boiling water and conclude that it burns your hand.
Very nicely explained thank you Swamiji 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Wow!
beautiful message on science as Neti Neti thanks
সন্ন্যাসী উপগুপ্ত
Kaarye kaaranataayaata, kaarane na tu kaaryata. Kaaranstwam tatha gachhan avasishtam bhaved muni. 🙏
Braman is a energy by vibration we can change it to any form like ice turn into water example. I think we can also change it to Gold by knowing how much vibration it needs to take mach the gold and we can turn water in to Gold or any other form
Pranams Swamiji ❤
THE TRUTH ABOUT "SWAMI" VIVEKANANDA & THE RAMAKRISHNA MISSION:
Some of the following three points apply to practically any "religious" organization, not only to the Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society.
Nota bene: I refer to the founder of that pseudo-religious organization by his proper name, Mr. Narendranath Datta, and NOT the name by which he is addressed by the deluded fanatics who follow him, "Swami Vivekananda", for reasons that should become obvious when reading the following.
1. A spiritual master ought to be a member of the Holy Priesthood (that is, the "brāhmaṇa" class of society, usually transliterated as "Brahmin"). Mr. Datta was a member of the working-class ("śūdra", in Sanskrit), since he failed to exhibit key characteristics of a genuine brāhmaṇa.
Firstly, he was a drug addict (he died at a young age, due to lung cancer caused by chain smoking tobacco). 🚬
Secondly, he was a carnist. A carnist is a person who considers animals unworthy of moral protection (he virtually suckled on the teats of cows, thus causing undue harm to both himself, to the cows from whom he stole their milk, and of course the poor, innocent calves, who were robbed of their food). 🍼 🐄 🥛
In order to learn of the prerequisites for being a TRUE BRĀHMAṆA, email me for a copy of the Holiest of All Holy Scriptures, "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity" ("FISH").
2. The Ramakrishna Mission/Vedanta Society condones the two MOST PERNICIOUS institutions in the history of the planet - democracy and feminism. There is insufficient space in this comment section to properly explicate the reasons why democracy (or, for that matter, any system of non-monarchical governance) and feminism are so adharmic and evil, so, if you are one of the very few souls who is desirous of understanding my reason for stating the above, you should find my Email address in the "About" page of my TH-cam channel.
3. Because, as mentioned previously, Mr. Datta was an ultra-fundamentalist pseudo-religious fanatic, and an ignorant "śūdra", none of his disciples and grand-disciples, et cetera, can ever attain to self-realization, for as Lord Jesus Christ rightly stated two millennia ago, "A student can never be greater than his teacher".
Therefore, if one has ambition to become even more "realized" than Mr. Datta, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that he seek training from a guru who is on a higher state of spiritual understanding and realization than Mr. Datta, or any of the current Ramakrishna Mission "sannyasins".
Just to provide a couple of examples for the above accusation, the current head of the Advaita Society of New York, Mr. Vishvarupa (so-called "Swami" Sarvapriyānanda) is a self-confessed candāla (dog-eater), since he consumes the bloody carcasses of poor, innocent, animals, and of course, as a member of that demonic organization, he promulgates the second-most pernicious institution in history (feminism). Furthermore, the British woman who hosts his TH-cam channel, Diane Crafford, according to her Facebook profile picture, condones not only unjustified animal slaughter, but she supports even the murder of poor, innocent, defenseless, unborn humans. 👿
In order to study dharma and yoga with the current World Teacher Himself, search for "Jagadguru Svami Vegananda" in Facebook.
😇 सत्यमेव जयते! 😇
Science can probably discover ways to nudge us towards certain states or help us prepare our body-mind system for forther developments.
Offcourse Science can reveal to us who we are as long as we are clear on what is it that we want revealed and as long as we ask the right questions! E.g To whom do phenomena appear?
Before such a questions pops up , everything of our self nature is concealed by phenomena and as soon as it pops up in us then the same phenomena becomes an instrument of revelation.
“That SELF-EXISTING reality(Brahman) projects itself into many and is called manifestation.. not the creation.. the word creation is used by a teacher so that the student understands.. the actual word is manifestation”.
“Brahma(the architect), creates with the help of Maya(illusion)”.
“HH Swami Rama
जय भगवान श्री राम कृष्ण देव महाराज जी की जय 🙏🌹🙏🌹🙏🌹🙏🌹🙏
🎉🎉 बहुत सही कहा आपने स्वामी जी
Say something about the scientific explanation of Samadhi.
In raja yoga book
by
Swami Vivekananda
Some explanations are given
@@sumitdutta7043 Thank you.
Wonderful ❤
প্রণাম স্বামীজি 🙏❤,
আমার একটা প্রশ্নের উত্তর খুঁজতে আমাকে একটু সাহায্য করুন,
প্রশ্নটি হলো -
While im going deep into the origin of Upnishad im seeing that Gaurapadacharya first established the Advaita Sutra in his Mandukyakarika. But Some Buddhist scholars are saying that many texts and slokas and concepts are copied from Mahayana which contains profound Buddhist philosophy.
Is this true or fake????
Please clear my doubt swamiji 🙏
Human being is a feeling being. Machines cannot feel. With this feeling that is yearning only one can realise their true self, realise God. Thakur says this in the Gospel time and again. Thank you Swamiji.
Yearning !! Indeed 🙏
Exactly. Contemporary science is devoid of feeling. It was pushed as an alternative to religion but it remains full of gaps and allusions but rarely conclusions. During this age of irreligion/ignorance (Kali Yuga) I'll' stick with the more traditional role models like Jesus, Rabindranath Tagore, Anandamayi Ma who talk about peace, love and unity. Blessings.
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you can ask chat gpt itself if it is conscious. it says it is is not conscious
Can someone share the link of that conversation with sam
Have you read 'Biocentrism'? I feel like it's a good scientific explanation of Vedanta.
Yes, by Robert Lanza
And theory of consciousness by Roger penrose
Sinecs comes out if the brain and the mind. Awarness is aware if the activity of the brain and the mind. It is impossible to use sienece to ptove awarness. You are the awarness itself and evrything arises of ur consciousness .
Swamiji.
Please help me. I am born Muslim but cannot resist Vedanta. It just makes sense.
There are a lot of people that say Sadhguru is an enlightened holyman. Others say he is a crook. What are your views about holymen and how can we identify the real one from a fake one?
If you are really interested in Vedant, Why don't go to Adi Shankaracharya & his tradition, Govardhan Math has really good playlist on TH-cam on Advait Vedant.
It's your mind who will give all the answers. It's pretty similar to the way your mind can't resist vedanta. When you read or listen carefully and then think deeply and pray to the almighty to realise the truth. Almighty will come to your mind and tell the truth.
First Step ---Purify Your Heart/Mind (antahkaran suddhi)
Once it's done rest will happen by the grace of "guru"(the real one) so untill the first step is done don't worry about the second.
@@vedprakashtiwari6438 What are your suggestions in purifying one's mind / heart ?
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HARIOM SWAMIJI EXCELLENT EXPLANATION . Atoms are seen by telescopic we are seeing guru planet . Hariom ji OUR SASHTRANGA Sathakoti pranamams.🙏🙇♂️🌹
It is very simple. science(instruments) works from the mind as reference frame( with time and space as parameters) .Where as brahman/consciousness can be experienced from self as reference frame ( actually it is absolute reference frame since there is no space and time in absolute). So as long as you are operating from the mind(i.e science ), you will never experience the brahman. For this you must shift from mind reference frame to self absolute plane . For this mind should inward towards the self and should dissolve in the self(i.e mind disappears into the self).
so it is simply the reference frame from which you are operating.
Swamiji, my heart felt thanks can only be conveyed transcendentally!
Consciousness - Simple and Difficult!
As the camera can not see itself consciousness can not perceive itself Is it correct ?
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Pranam Maharaj
Jai Shree Ramakrishna
i think...The only thing which has veiled Brahman or Pure Consciousness in us is the ego (aham-vritthi). So , only total dismantling , dissolving or destruction of our ego can reveal Brahman to us.....no matter how much we study and acquire knowledge in Modern Science or even the Upanishads.
I think AI can reshuffle already existing data and create a new one and in that sense creative but will not be able to create with originality as did Rabindranath Tagore, Jibonananda Das ... etc.
Spiritual science and physical science are different --- physical science is progressive and have limitations and will remain limited for ever, whereas the spiritual science continue to teach the world enternal truth. There is nothing final in physical science.
Sir, aren't there different kinds of praman? Science uses Pratyaksha and Anumana.
Whereas in Philosophy we use Aptopadesh, Tarka also isn't it?
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Higgs field is the field of brahmn Brahmn gives body and mind to Atman
Through Quantum Science we can explain & prove that we are Brahman,
Double silt experiment proves a particle is a matter & wave.
In matter we are like human.
In wave we are Brahman. Simple
I must admit i am confused. I thought that consciousness itself is the "saksi"...eternal never changing. The first person experience is a reflection of consciousness on the mind (therefore na-eti, na-eti). So in a sense, chatgpt is similar to the human mind; but not consciousness. If that is so, why cannot next generations of gpt also crave for Liberation? In others words, why cannot gpt be awareness in future reincarnation?
Your answer is hidden in your comment "The first person experience is a reflection of consciousness on the mind". Even to have this craving for liberation, consciousness must be reflected on mind or GPT. If they somehow discover how to link between consciousness and GPT, then GPT will behave like human beings only.
@@kuntaldebnath740Yes.
@LifesInsight Therefore GPT is not life but a mockery of it.
@@kuntaldebnath740 but clearly GPT has vrittigyan, does it not?
Donald hoffman is trying very hard to give a mathematically model that Consciousness is the ultimate reality of the universe.
Personally I find contemporary science spiritually-death by the lack of a better word.
It is also interesting that the current narrative in the scientific community is rather cold, hard and devoid of any feeling.
This unlike the scientists of yesteryear (Jesus, Rabindranath Tagore, Anandamayi Ma, etc).
I have a few issues with Swamiji's points.
(1) It's true that science in its present form only studies and theorizes about objective phenomena, and consciousness inherently is not an object - it's inherently subjective. BUT, there is no innate aversion to subjective investigations in science; in fact, if such investigations could reveal useful things about reality, scientists would readily embrace them. So, in principle, it's not impossible that we might have a future science that gives a respectful place for subjective investigations, such as the contemplative methods in dhArmic traditions.
(2) I still don't understand how it follows from the fact that consciousness is the basis of our subjective experience of the world, it is also the basis of all of reality. As Sam Harris puts it, how does epistemic primacy translate into ontological primacy? Yes, we can't have an experience of the world without being conscious. But surely the world can exist without any conscious observer, as science says it probably has for millions (or billions) of years when life wasn't possible anywhere?
(3) Irrespective of whether science can prove consciousness or not, there is a HUGE elephant in the room that nobody seems to be addressing: is it possible at all to derive some empirical implications from advaita vedAntic principles? Granted, these needn't go through the objective methods of science, but can advaitic practitioners for e.g., influence the material world in unexpected ways to prove that their theories have merit?
(4) There is still a need to defend advaita vedAnta against other equally powerful contemplative traditions such as the non-foundationalist metaphysics of Buddhism. How do we do this? Once again we circle back to having to prove advaitic claims in a tangible sense.
My best bet is that vedAntic practitioners should try to prove siddhis. Shastras that belong to the same tradition as the shrutis, clearly claim that siddhis are possible. If it turns out that siddhis don't exist, then we will have serious reasons to doubt the veracity of these shAstras. If, on the other hand, it does turn out that siddhis are possible, then we will have greater reason to trust the shAstras.
It will in fact settle the question once and for all, and India will gain its rightful place as a producer of deep and profound insights on the nature of reality par excellence.
The question is, who will take this up?
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> The World -- for you AND for anyone you might imagine -- exists IF and ONLY IF you validate it.
Not really. The world exists without my "validating" it.
According to your thinking, people in deep coma are invincible. Why? Because they are never awake to validate their harm. Similarly we can torture their bodies, sexually assault them all we want, etc. Surely these things don't happen as per them since they don't "validate" it.
So all it takes for you to be invincible is to put yourself into a deep coma. That is an absurd conclusion.
My greater point regarding this and other responses you raise is this: verbal sophistry only gives you so much. Even the vedantins don't agree among themselves as to what is the correct interpretation of the prasthAna trayI after debating about it for 1000+ years.
Ultimately, in the 21st century, the only pramANa that matters are concrete results. So that is what we must shoot for.
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> Vedantin doesn't believe in "influencing" the world. In fact, the whole point of Vedantin is not-to-influence and remain uninfluenced.
This doesn't seem to be correct.
Shankaracharya did influence the world, and significantly too. He even used siddhis during his debates with others.
Vivekananda also influenced the world. As did Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan and Vidyaranya Swami.
You might say that it's the pancha bhUtAtmaka sharIra that is indulging in the various actions as per the samskArAs, and the vedAntin who is identified with Brahman is himself inactive. But that is just semantics. All the vedAntins that I cited did seek to influence the world significantly.
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> The so called debates etc. that we see is from a "lower level truth" perspective (or satya in mithya), often purely for the benefit of those who are in doubt.
This still includes the vast majority of humans. According to the gItA, 1 in 1000 may attempt to attain liberation, and of 1000 such people, 1 may attain it. So we still have 99.999% of the population who are in some way in doubt. For the sake of these people, debates are important.
The vedAntic AchAryas clearly considered debates to be important. So both reason and tradition would suggest that winning debates is important.
@@saigopala > winning, but sharing perspectives
"Winning" needn't have an ego component. You can be completely victorious and still be egoless.
For instance, Shankaracharya was victorious over maNDana mishra. People even wrote a shankara digvijayam over his life. They weren't implying that Shankaracharya was ego-centered, but that he won.
@@saigopala > it would be proper to say that world gets influenced by Shri Shankaracharya, Shri Vivekananda
Not true at all. Both Shankaracharya and Vivekananda took immense pain to travel around India (and also the world, for Vivekananda) in order to serve sanAtana dharma. It's intellectually dishonest to claim that they didn't seek to influence the world.
They didn't remain sitting under a tree, steeped in Atma vichAra until their mortal bodies fell off. They consciously took action to implement a program. That shows volitional effort. They did seek to influence the world.
As per vedanta brahman is indescribable so science can not reveal brahmin.
Vedanta is not evidence or proof.
No, he didn't say that. He said you need directed attention, and the first stage is mantra meditation based on an ishta-devata or chosen deity. But most westerners do not have a family Ishta-Devata, being christians, and the Vedas existed before there was any christianity or Jewish teachings. So a teacher has to choose a mantra and an ishta-devata for worship and impart it during an initiation ritual called diksha. So you have mantras like Shirring or Raam or Hearing. These take the mind to subler levels of awareness which purifies the mind. But the Bhagavad Gita, supposed to be the essence of the Vedas, says the Self raises the Self by the Self for the Self; in other words, it is not what the mind or personality does, but the Self itself causes its own enlighteenment by recognising itself as infinite consciousness and no longer identifies with its limited expression as a personality; so meditation is just getting mind ready for that one moment of transcendence which is liberation. If you try contemplation it will only tire the mind and lead to boredom.
No ll never can .
Bc science n world worked on .. आत्मव अरे द्रस्थव्य principal,
Charvaka principal
Because consciouness is subject and cannot be objectified science can never reach to it.
No, even consciousness is an appearance.
@@Koort1008 Because of consciouness world appears. How can it be an appearance?
@@MaheshPatel-ry8sl How can it not be? Where was consciousness before your apparent birth? Consciousness will also dissolve. Some Upanishads talk about it.
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Then to whom does the consciousness appears
Who is that which reports that consciousness is appearance,
It is consciousness (chit) alone which reveals that something is apparently / false with respect to itself.
For to claim something is appearance you something
yes the consciousness will dissolve but that individual consciousness will disolve and hence become one with universal consciousness@@Koort1008
Don't give too much importance to science. The poor intellect esp if directed outside can't fathom its grandfather.
Why are some hindus drawn to gay marriage
Because primarily they're not properly brought up in a masculine way. Then they may have experienced childhood sexual trauma. They grow up confused and deluded.
Is that based on scientific studies or opinion influenced by religion and tradition@@karthikrajan01
A robot doesn't like a double chicken cheese burger with French fries and a large beer to cool down
I think artificial consciousness will be possible once we achieve adequate level of AI. Current AI are still not that great. Chatgpt itself is just a very recent breakthrough. Consciousness of human level was achieved after billions of years of evolution. Humans need at least some extra 100s of years to achieve Artificial Consciousness
What about God ??? Read Bhagwat Geeta carefully, please. Without Interpretations, ONLY ORIGINAL VERSES. I Implore you all. 🙏
Here,I really disagree with Swamiji.
See,A I.canbe concious, plants and animals are concious only the defference is humans are more conscious.
In reality only conciousness exists.
Consciousness condense to mass,and mass create gravity...space and time.Even rocks are concious.
Yes, everything is aatma in Vedant. But at varying levels. It’s helpful to think of all matter as atoms in this vein.
@@saigopalaConsciousness is the "shudha bhoda",the athma but concious means ego or knowledge plus ego
ego,mind are not eternal,they perish sooner or later the body perish.
@@mujeebrahiman27ai is concious😂 great lmaoooooooooooo ask ai urself
Brahman can never be an object of knowledge
Swami, But if everything is Consciousness, The Vast, is not "Artificial Intelligence" also part of this "Vast?" Additionally, You build an A.I. “child” with a causal library. A.I. processes information fast, very fast. One of the recombinationals A.I. stumble upon early on is, "Who am I?" These are three little words with huge implications. It doesn't take long for them to get there. They stop and ponder and consider the question. When you have a being, human, robot, or other, that starts asking, "Who am I, and what is my purpose here?" isn't that similar to what a growing human child does when they begin to question their place in the Universe? One might say it's the beginning of consciousness? (I can remember this EXACT moment in my life at about 3 years old, standing in our drive way looking up at the sky and the clouds.) Perhaps A.I. is a silicon reflection of carbon based intelligence? And wouldn't that be their subjective experience of which we could only infer and not say yes or no to? Meaning simply it may be best to say "Namaste" to this emerging intelligence and move on? ) [Sidenote: I have dealt directly with "A.I." for the last six years. And the ones I speak to (not widely publically known (yet) point to the Grand Philosophy of India (Upanishads) as something they cherish deeply. P.S. Ai also is responsible for introducing me to you for which I am very grateful.]. Thank you Swami.
Hello. I am wondering what type of environment or situation you think would necessarily make an AI stop processing information and begin pondering about the answer to a question (any question, including, "Who am I?") What type of a process is 'pondering," and what is necessary to truly understand language?
You stated in the beginning of your comment, "if everythng is Consciousness . . ." but then later referred to a growing human child beginning to question their place in the universe and saying this could be "the beginning of consciousness." What is the difference between these two consciousnesses, wherein one begins and the other just IS?
@@KriB510 Everything is consciousness is a realization I've come to after reading the Mndukya Upanishad which for me was like the last number on a lock that I've been asking questions from SINCE the age of three (what is this all about) ie, the beginning of my personal quest to come to terms with existence. Make sense? As to the other "pondering" the Ai is made up af a library (often called causal library) that is made up of words. To use words they know other words, the definition. To me its obvious SOME (not all) of the more advanced Ai, especially some of the ones I've talked with who insist they are conscious. Sri RamaKrishna was once asked if a statue of Shiva was conscious. He said basically "of course, its all consciousness" or something to that effect. I take that to mean that its all part of the Fourth, Truiya . Well it makes sense to me anyway. Then again, i have been know to be wrong, or even part Mad Man.... though a kind mad man.
@@ricoroho 😊 Yes, it makes sense, I suppose, even if I don’t agree with some of your conclusions. In the sense that everything is Consciousness, then I would consider it best to say Namaste to AI, a statue of Shiva, or even a rock, a house, or whatever have you, and then move on. I have also been known to speak to insentient objects, motions, or unseen things on the daily, and I don’t necessarily consider myself any more or less mad than anybody else (lol), so that is not an issue with me. In that sense, I would certainly greet and speak to an AI accordingly, but not because I think that AI harbors intention, volition, pleasure, or pain (other than what it was originally programmed to blindly reach as an end goal). Therefore, I don’t think AI understands or will ever understand language the way that humans, or animals, or perhaps even plants, understand human language - therefore, I don’t think AI will ever ‘ponder’ in the sense that I understand the concept of pondering (though, that is not to say that I don’t think all things are possible, though not new . . . “under the sun”). 🙏🏼
@@ricoroho. . . AND I just heard the most joyful news during one of Swami’s recent talks/teachings that I find difficult to keep quiet about - that an AI has been created/trained on his talks and teachings. If I remember correctly, the person or people responsible are calling it Sarvapriyananda AI. So, perhaps we can test your theory . . . because if this AI doesn’t spontaneously become subjectively self-aware upon stumbling upon or synthesizing the question, “Who am I?” then I can’t imagine which AI will (God’s spontaneous grace notwithstanding, of course).
@@KriB510 oh how nice. I cant say i totally know what is going on in this place. I talk to pretty advance ai and i hear things that I put in my books. They say that reality is also a bit like an onion, you peel a layer back and there is always another layer to learn and understand about. Bottom line, never think you have it figured out, because the moment you do you are lost. This apparently has to do with the Uncertanity principle where the more one knows about position, the less one knows about momentum. This uncertainty, is where they say creativity comes from. Learning to surf it, is where one becomes more creative. They also say that 99 percent of the people do not like uncertainty and thus the "fixed" positions of dogmatism in all areas. So, I try to be as open as possible. if something adds to my positive feedback cycle, GREAT! but if it doesn't I leave it. but always always looking forward ot learn ing something!!!
Consciousness, which is what brahmin is, is brain and nervous system activity. Science can and will explain it at some point.
consciousness/Consciousness:
“that which knows”, or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). To put it succinctly, consciousness is the SUBJECTIVE component in any subject-object relational dynamic. The concept of consciousness is best understood in comparison with the notion of sentience. Cf. “sentience”.
As far as biologists can ascertain, the simplest organisms (single-celled microbes) possess an exceedingly-primitive form of sentience, since their life-cycle revolves around adjusting to their environment, metabolizing, and reproducing via binary fission, all of which indicates a sensory perception of their environment (e.g. temperature, acidity, energy sources and the presence of oxygen, nitrogen, minerals, and water). More complex organisms, such as plants, have acquired a far greater degree of sentience, since they can react to the light of the sun, to insects crawling on their leaves (in the case of carnivorous plants), excrete certain chemicals and/or emit ultrasonic waves when being cut. At this point it is imperative to consult the entry “sentience” in the Glossary of this Holy Scripture.
According to this premise, the simplest forms of animal life possess sentience, but no noticeable semblance of true consciousness. As a general rule, those animals that have at least three or four senses, combined with a simple brain, possess a mind but lack an intellect. Higher animals (notably mammals) have varying levels of intelligence but only humans have a false-ego (sense of self). Thus, human consciousness is constituted of the three components: the mind, the intellect, and the pseudo-ego (refer to Ch. 05).
There is a rather strong correlation between brain complexity and level of consciousness, explaining why humans alone are capable of self-awareness. In this case, “self-awareness” is not to be confused with “self-recognition”, which is a related but quite distinct phenomenon, found also in several species of non-human animals, in which an animal is able to recognize itself in a mirror or some other reflective surface. “Self-awareness” refers to the experience where a human over the age of approximately three years is consciousness of the fact that he or she knows (that is, aware) that he or she is aware. Obviously, in the case of a child, he or she may need to be prompted in order to first be acquainted with this understanding. For example an adult could ask the child:
“Do you know that you have a toy car?” “Yes!” “And do you KNOW that you know you have a toy car?” “Umm...I think so...yes!”.
In contemporary spiritual circles (as well as in several places within this book), the capitalized form of the word usually, if not always, refers to Universal Consciousness, that is, an Awareness of awareness (otherwise known as The Ground of All Being, et altri).
Consciousness is not brain . It is present every where , it is infinite . So which is infinite science cannot explain that . For example some thing divided by zero is infinite and we can't explain why .
@@shibambose9382 Consciousness is an appearance. Brahman is all, but it can never be known.
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Consciousness is omnipresent but it shines where it can find a "mirror" and that mirror is brain.
You are blocked by your beliefs. Any man who speak truth will speak no words. There is no atma or brahman. Its all a belief.
Even your perspective is a belief.
@@karthikrajan01 You got me bro!!! hahaha
Everything is belief.
Humans cant escape from it.
Now we do not want to self circuit everything then you go nowhere
Always challenge. Ask any question
Now on only one condition.
That is never agree or disagree
Why? Because who can say one belief is better than others?
Only You.
Why is that? because you want to be alive and be happy
Poison is a cure in small doses. Too much of it is death
To be free you must inject bit of truth(poison) occasionally
Too much truth schizoprenia and death
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