Pan Laws - What Are They? And Are They Worth All the Controversy? Logic Pro Pan Laws Explained

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  • @fescolfaro
    @fescolfaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These are the best videos you put out, honestly. Low-level, fundamental settings and the interaction between them and our production schemes and strategies. Not that the basic mixing tips videos aren't helping in any way, because they instantly show more experienced engineers where the functions we need are in Logic, but configuring how the DAW works with low-level concepts is EXTREMELY helpful because it changes our whole output and workflow whether we know it or not. BRAVO! Thank you so much for your attention to detail and care in explaining it :)

  • @averythebright
    @averythebright 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best Logic videos on youtube, period.

  • @donnyp_
    @donnyp_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    how do you know what i’m curious about that week every week?!?!

    • @joelsom
      @joelsom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      AppleFries That’s exactly what I was just thinking!

    • @DeSanKwuh
      @DeSanKwuh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @jordanf900
      @jordanf900 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🍪🍪🍪

    • @supadave422
      @supadave422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Time travler

  • @ELPLAK
    @ELPLAK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is not the perception any more when you use two speakers instead of one. Inside the software is as you said. Now, if you us a dbA meter and send x# dbA signal to one channel L or R, the db meter will messure xdbA. When you send the same signal to both channels L and R the meter will read 3 dbs more. Remember 2 times the same power will increase 3 dbA pressure level.

  • @NebMotion
    @NebMotion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another logic function I had no idea about, thanks for your tutorials!

  • @Sjokola
    @Sjokola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I immediately thought that 2 speakers playing the same sound doubles the power. And as an increase of 3 db is a doubling in power it would seem that with this pan law the sound output actually stays the same this way in stead of lowering when panning.

    • @bobluciano7029
      @bobluciano7029 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sjokola that is correct.

    • @liquidsolids9415
      @liquidsolids9415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, that’s right. The center signal seems louder because it’s coming out of both speakers. When you hard-pan to one side, the sound is only coming out of one speaker so the volume needs to be increased so it sounds as loud as it did when it was coming out of both speakers.

    • @The1dudemeister
      @The1dudemeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, actually that's BULLSHIT, sorry. *_6dB_* plus or minus is _DOUBLE_ … divided by *_two_* (channels) is *_3dB_* … 🙄

    • @Sjokola
      @Sjokola 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The1dudemeister I think you're mistaken. a difference of 10db is 10x the power. That a normal base 10 log scale. In which a difference of 3db almost makes a 2 fold radio (1.995 to be precise). The amplitude ratio on doubles at 6 db. The amplitude ratio is equal to the square root of the power ratio. Am I missing something?

  • @joelsom
    @joelsom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for explaining this. Although I suspected my thoughts on it were correct, I never took the time to explore or test it. Love your channel!

  • @Quintopia1
    @Quintopia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been wondering which is "best" -- 0, -3, or -3db compensated... this cleared it up for me... -3db compensated for me! thank you!

  • @rosalindacaseley6996
    @rosalindacaseley6996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another superb "under the hood nuts and bolts" tutorial! Thank you 😀

  • @Michael_RareZebra
    @Michael_RareZebra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always appreciate your videos. The best and informative channel for Logic Pro. So helpful. Thank you.

  • @finnykurian
    @finnykurian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Fan of your videos.. Was waiting for this one!!

  • @fescolfaro
    @fescolfaro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, btw, I disagree with your statement that it doesn't change the way we mix. It does, because it alters the level signal goes in to compressors especially if they are stereo linked, and if you are skillful working on MS, linking and unlinking, it affects the perceived width of the mix as well eventually (depending how you handle it).

  • @JuanLopezmusica
    @JuanLopezmusica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why Im still listening the loop when you do Hard L on my R side?

  • @xxfaction6xx
    @xxfaction6xx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best channel on recording and DAWs. Awesome!

  • @Jonmicol
    @Jonmicol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    never heard of pan laws...wow!! Thanks!

  • @MagnusKlo
    @MagnusKlo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it really only a perceptual difference ? I mean two speakers playing the same signal will be 3 dB louder than only one speaker, right ?

    • @WesHampson
      @WesHampson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I'm thinking. It's not a perceptual difference, it's a physical difference due to the fact that when you hard-pan, you literally cut the sound pressure level in half because now you only have one speaker playing instead of two.

  • @guitar.knackshack2210
    @guitar.knackshack2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Also I think that if you want to pan a channel strip that's in stereo, it's better to do it via direction mixer so it works as panning and not volume. Is that correct? Thank you :-)

  • @jmora44ify
    @jmora44ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My pan knobs are missing! How do I put them back on! Please help!

  • @djalexia
    @djalexia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Chris! Do you know why the stereo pan width turns from green into orange color?
    I’m not sure what I’ve done but the other day I was adjusting the width in stereo panning and from green color turned orange? Thanks! Always appreciate your contents! 😃

    • @Yes-wx8qf
      @Yes-wx8qf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s probably because you by mistake clicked on it while holding down the cmd button. It flips the right and left channels, so that they’re basically inverted. (Left becomes right and vice versa) Leftclick on the stereo pan circle while holding down cmd and it will switch back.

    • @djalexia
      @djalexia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Yes-wx8qf hey! Thanks 😊 appreciate it. It took me a a long scratching head-time . Appreciate your reply.

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids9415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool demo. Thanks!

  • @musicwitharijit
    @musicwitharijit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    upzzz... this was dope for sure...

  • @Knownwellenough
    @Knownwellenough 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0db up the middle is different than 0db on a hard pan.

  • @jamesdoctor8079
    @jamesdoctor8079 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, in the old days before digital recording, how did engineers deal with this? Was it even an issue that was considered?

    • @TheGrimpreacher777
      @TheGrimpreacher777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @james Doctor ... not really, cos these days we have the amazing creativity to ‘talk something to death’ … Shakespeare called it “much ado about nothing”

  • @bryanketcham9922
    @bryanketcham9922 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    im so thankful for you. damn good man

  • @kgmessier
    @kgmessier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed. Thank you!

  • @robbiemichaels2347
    @robbiemichaels2347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @Hans_pereirab
    @Hans_pereirab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why logic's pan reaches 64 on the left side and 63 on the right side?

    • @ExplosiveLemonz
      @ExplosiveLemonz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      just google it, it's a very boring answer tbh

    • @IAmHollow
      @IAmHollow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      my ocd hates it

    • @ManCalledMif
      @ManCalledMif 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm guessing there are 128 levels if you include zero 🧘🏼‍♀️

  • @marcinkozlowski2880
    @marcinkozlowski2880 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @Knardsh
    @Knardsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard left and hard right... is this a metaphor for 2020? Why are they so loud on the far left??!!! Need better pan laws!!