What's the difference between a Pop song a billboard next to a highway? Nothing. Both are bought and paid for by corporations. Both are designed to grab as much attention as possible. Both will inevitably affect your mood and thoughts. Whether you love them or hate them means absolutely nothing.
The problem with creative endeavours that are economic enterprises people focus solely on the front end the creation of the stuff not the middle end and back end if we took an integrated approach seeing it as a whole meaning payment systems and management systems of self staff and service the craft would improve.
I grew up in the 60's and 70's. All music from that time back, will always be timeless. We will hear this music till the end of human existence. Music today, like everything else, is disposable and recycled. And in a short time, easily forgotten.
"Butbut I LOVE this new pop music" - of course you do, thats what the corporations designed it to do so they can have a steady revenue stream with as few risks as possible
This millenial whoop is shit....a song becomes an instant hit... raises lots of money for the record sellers...and in a month, that song disappears..... i really miss the days when people wrote and sang from their heart,unique in their own ways....those songs we listen for decades ... they are the real beauty... those music make you wanna live
Try listening to artists Gerry Rafferty, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Jim Croce & I agree with your statements for sure. Having been hearing a bad decline since the early 2000's.
He touched upon so many things that are wrong with the world today and also mentioned so many things that are the corresponding solutions. He further connects the dots so elegantly puts forward that, there is just one solution to all the problems in the world, Diversity! Diversity in... Investment Biome Agriculture Music Culture Society Bravo Mr. Metzger. Bravo !!!
Just yesterday, I saw the new movie about Freddy Mercury, it also shows that creativity only occurs in a certain setting and the creator has to have strong confidence in his makings. Producers think in numbers, which is killing to new styles . The guys of Queen got together in a random way and grew up musically together, as we have seen with many long lasting bands. They become a creative bubble and develop their style in a way, that is not linear and reproducible. Although music seems to be a disposable product, I am positive about the musical youth, because I experience that over time young people develop a sense for what is good and authentic. They don't buy everything that is being produced any more. There are only two kinds of music, only the best will survive over time!
Evan Hernandez - the speakers voice is not well recorded and his voice doesn’t project well... You have to strain to hear it. Reasons: •Limited chord changes •Overly formulated music •Formulaic Production Techniques •along with •The Loudness Wars •Extremely short melodic phrasing which is repeated over and over. Watch Neil Young playing The Loner in acoustic in a small venue. Search for it... Listen to music by Howard Arlen Jerome Kern Joni Mitchell The Beatles Classical music like Bach, Vivaldi, etc Listen to Jazz Radiohead Elliott Smith The Great American Songbook
Google is currupted.. TH-cam is controlled by Google.. the views and likes in youtube are manipulated by the ones that have enough money to pay up to change data.
What happened to guitar solos? If were just talking about pop music, I can turn any Michael Jackson or Bryan Adams album right now and hear at least 5 songs that have them.
Agreed. There can be so much emotion in a guitar solo, and in some instances, it's the most emotional part of the song. . .The blood, sweat and tears of the artist through the notes of the instrument we hear.
@Degree7 went out with musical talent and all the other instruments they threw out in favor of computers.. and even if you get someone who plays drums or guitar they just grid it and make it perfect with the computer and fix up the untalented sloppy vocals with some autotune... done...
@@JNCressey The millennial whoop itself is not political at all, what IS political is the homogenization of music using trends like this by cramming the same one into everything in order take music more profitable for corporations. What is political is manipulating mass media consumption patterns deliberately to generate profit, even if takes the uniqueness and humanity out of music by making everything sound the same, by making music less diverse. The same thing happens with architecture and art.
@@Moosemoose1, how is a corporation making only what makes the most money political? how is making the media tell people to buy your product political?
I don't really understand, but my question is, may i know wich song that doesn't have same pattern with those song that Mr metzger said?, i mean the singer that doesn't use millenial whoop in their song.
This vid began interesting and there is a lot to talk about on this topic, but clearly he went off track by the 7:00 trying to overlay politics (Colonialism?) on a pop music conversation...
Years ago quite a bit if was pretty good, but not as good as rock or pop/rock. Now almost NO pop is worth more than 5 cents a listen. Puking justified.
there's plenty of good pop music, just not in the mainstream, paradoxically. Like theres a lot of music that adopts the sounds of pop without the huge widespread popularity. stuff thats a bit more experimental and eclectic. You just gotta look for it.
Before watching the video, I listened to the radio and noticed that most pop song's main chorus is just to alternating notes. Like what is it with the falling alternating notes? They think it sounds cool but it sounds as bland as whole grain bread.
this could have used illustration, when you are talking about music, a bit contradictory, see most Dylan interviews, he should have played what he was talking about and then meandering about...needs an editor, Mandarin and Pop a dubious rapprochement to me, one is about money and control, the other is about control and control (not in that order)
it's not a bad thing in itself. It creates undesirable side-effects. Imagine all the truly talented artists who can't get a record deal because some schmoe used a popular pattern in their songs just to get attention.
The general public has always been morons, buying into whatever is trendy. It leaves those that know better quality stuck with something they know isn't good.
I personally don't think that was case at all. It's just that people just happen to love songs that very entertaining to them....... so that way they can blow off some steam, even if the songs do have nonsensical lyrics thrown into it. It doesn't matter if these songs are meaningful or not, because in the end of the day......music is just another product. that's it.
@@billybassman21 "The general public has always been morons, buying into whatever is trendy. It leaves those that know better quality stuck with something they know isn't good." Your viewpoint will not hold up to everyone.
It's a misnomer to call this "the millennial whoop" as it was already widespread long ago. It was very prevalent in the 1980s in songs like Deacon Blue's "Real Gone Kid" (1989). And a big 1930s hit like "Somewhere over the rainbow" could be argued to be using the same device ("Someday, I wish upon a star").
Its called that because of how prevalent it is in todays music - you'd have to scour musical history to find specific examples of this in the past, but in the last 17 years you can commonly find it in almost any genre from pop to the zombified remains of what is considered "rock".
Name me a global language that is NOT one due to colonialism. Spanish no, French, no. Japanese, no they weren't colonialist their best attempts were stopped by the Chinese and then the Americans. We're really starting to run out of options now, aren't we? Even German, a hitherto-considered language of global science, was a language of a colonial power in significant parts of Africa.
Ian Bartle dude Spanish is popular because of colonialism. People in Central and South America didnt speak Spanish at first. French is also very popular in Africa due to France’s African colonies.
trap music same pop music same house music is not same hip hop not same hate 2017 cause of this and house music and hip hop music isn't that famous plus it's different and sub to my channel! (self-advertising) great video! I wish the people doesn't use the same chords and beats if it's a mistake it's ok
You're out of your mind. A lot of house and hip hop sounds the same. Most popular Hip Hop today sounds the same, very repetitive phrasing, autotune and dumbed down beats. There was much more originality and creativity in Hip Hop back in the 90s
What's the difference between a Pop song a billboard next to a highway?
Nothing.
Both are bought and paid for by corporations.
Both are designed to grab as much attention as possible.
Both will inevitably affect your mood and thoughts.
Whether you love them or hate them means absolutely nothing.
and both are commonly shown to you while driving.
Don't let creativity die.
People hate the truth, they don't want to learn how repetitive is today's music industry.
😤😭😤😭
DJKoollord well that just makes me mad
The problem with creative endeavours that are economic enterprises people focus solely on the front end the creation of the stuff not the middle end and back end if we took an integrated approach seeing it as a whole meaning payment systems and management systems of self staff and service the craft would improve.
it's not only pop music that sounds the same today. But all movies are the same today.
@cat and biscuit not really
I disagree your telling me a Lars von trier film is the same as a blockbuster.
Idiotic comment
I grew up in the 60's and 70's. All music from that time back, will always be timeless. We will hear this music till the end of human existence. Music today, like everything else, is disposable and recycled. And in a short time, easily forgotten.
"Butbut I LOVE this new pop music" - of course you do, thats what the corporations designed it to do so they can have a steady revenue stream with as few risks as possible
The problem is that they don’t want to take the risk of publishing someone with a new sound. The music sounds the same because it guarantees profit
Wow i like the statement of ; There is POWER IN THE WEIRD!
pop music is fast food to our ears
Name one actual health effect of pop music that isn't related to volume.
All you hear in a pop song is “Baby”
Or "whooooa"
They're always talking about being in the club, for some reason.
This millenial whoop is shit....a song becomes an instant hit... raises lots of money for the record sellers...and in a month, that song disappears..... i really miss the days when people wrote and sang from their heart,unique in their own ways....those songs we listen for decades ... they are the real beauty... those music make you wanna live
it makes YOU want to live. end of story. this is completely subjective
Those songs where also based on a same pattern. Check out "4 chord songs"
Try listening to artists Gerry Rafferty, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Jim Croce & I agree with your statements for sure. Having been hearing a bad decline since
the early 2000's.
He touched upon so many things that are wrong with the world today and also mentioned so many things that are the corresponding solutions. He further connects the dots so elegantly puts forward that, there is just one solution to all the problems in the world, Diversity!
Diversity in...
Investment
Biome
Agriculture
Music
Culture
Society
Bravo Mr. Metzger. Bravo !!!
Just yesterday, I saw the new movie about Freddy Mercury, it also shows that creativity only occurs in a certain setting and the creator has to have strong confidence in his makings. Producers think in numbers, which is killing to new styles .
The guys of Queen got together in a random way and grew up musically together, as we have seen with many long lasting bands. They become a creative bubble and develop their style in a way, that is not linear and reproducible.
Although music seems to be a disposable product, I am positive about the musical youth, because I experience that over time young people develop a sense for what is good and authentic. They don't buy everything that is being produced any more.
There are only two kinds of music, only the best will survive over time!
They were dismissed just as much in their day as the music of today that people here are dismissing.
This video is months old. Why so little views. 1602 views.
Because he's misguided
Evan Hernandez - the speakers voice is not well recorded and his voice doesn’t project well... You have to strain to hear it.
Reasons:
•Limited chord changes
•Overly formulated music
•Formulaic Production Techniques •along with
•The Loudness Wars
•Extremely short melodic phrasing which is repeated over and over.
Watch Neil Young playing The Loner in acoustic in a small venue. Search for it...
Listen to music by Howard Arlen
Jerome Kern
Joni Mitchell
The Beatles
Classical music like Bach, Vivaldi, etc
Listen to Jazz
Radiohead
Elliott Smith
The Great American Songbook
This is an excellent TED Talk. Diversity in all creative and cultural areas is critical. " A broad variety of interlocking cultural pieces".
Google is currupted.. TH-cam is controlled by Google.. the views and likes in youtube are manipulated by the ones that have enough money to pay up to change data.
Greg Graffin (of Bad Religion) wrote about the same phenomenon about 20 years ago.
Love Bad Religion and it wasn't even Christmas.
Pop is one of these three things
Depressed Teenage Girls
Cringy Love Songs from Bratty Princesses
Wannabe Gangster rap
It's McMusic.
Precisely.
What happened to guitar solos? If were just talking about pop music, I can turn any Michael Jackson or Bryan Adams album right now and hear at least 5 songs that have them.
Agreed. There can be so much emotion in a guitar solo, and in some instances, it's the most emotional part of the song. . .The blood, sweat and tears of the artist through the notes of the instrument we hear.
@Degree7 went out with musical talent and all the other instruments they threw out in favor of computers.. and even if you get someone who plays drums or guitar they just grid it and make it perfect with the computer and fix up the untalented sloppy vocals with some autotune... done...
Once you hear the amen break you can never un hear it.
And once you use it once you can never stop
They need to fix the light in that room! Not just the strobe in the background.
7:15 his points go off the topic of music and I don't like it.
Edit: oh,at 9:30 he brings it back to music, we're good.
Everyone's gotta scratch that SJW itch these days.
You do realize music is political, right?
@@Moosemoose1, could you elaborate? how is the millennial whoop political?
@@JNCressey The millennial whoop itself is not political at all, what IS political is the homogenization of music using trends like this by cramming the same one into everything in order take music more profitable for corporations. What is political is manipulating mass media consumption patterns deliberately to generate profit, even if takes the uniqueness and humanity out of music by making everything sound the same, by making music less diverse. The same thing happens with architecture and art.
@@Moosemoose1, how is a corporation making only what makes the most money political?
how is making the media tell people to buy your product political?
You can use those same two notes to sing, “wan-ker, wan-ker, wan-ker.”
I don't really understand, but my question is, may i know wich song that doesn't have same pattern with those song that Mr metzger said?, i mean the singer that doesn't use millenial whoop in their song.
Probably no one in the last 17 years - almost all of them have at least ONE song that uses it
There are dozens of Southern Chinese languages besides Cantonese. Teochew, hokkien, Hoisanese, Hakka, Shanghainese to name a few
You can barely call them musicians
This vid began interesting and there is a lot to talk about on this topic, but clearly he went off track by the 7:00 trying to overlay politics (Colonialism?) on a pop music conversation...
"Pop music is awesome." I just about puked in my mouth.
Years ago quite a bit if was pretty good, but not as good as rock or pop/rock. Now almost NO pop is worth more than 5 cents a listen. Puking justified.
there's plenty of good pop music, just not in the mainstream, paradoxically. Like theres a lot of music that adopts the sounds of pop without the huge widespread popularity. stuff thats a bit more experimental and eclectic. You just gotta look for it.
@@ianbartle456 "Now almost NO pop is worth more than 5 cents a listen. Puking justified."
None at all?
I m surprised to learn most of them are in a major scale because they all sound so limp
2932 views?!?!?!?
Before watching the video, I listened to the radio and noticed that most pop song's main chorus is just to alternating notes. Like what is it with the falling alternating notes? They think it sounds cool but it sounds as bland as whole grain bread.
this could have used illustration, when you are talking about music, a bit contradictory, see most Dylan interviews, he should have played what he was talking about and then meandering about...needs an editor, Mandarin and Pop a dubious rapprochement to me, one is about money and control, the other is about control and control (not in that order)
Vox explained it way better👀
Link please.
Why does he look like a mexican Freddie Mercury? Fernando Merjury?
Entertainment is not Art.
You look like one of those world war 2 navy veterans that came back to america and got married at 20
Reggaeton
ba ba DUY ba bada ba DUY
I think he's discovered the Major scale.
Is this supposed to be clever?
Ok Boomer, the Ted Talk
I don't see this as a bad thing. If people still enjoy it for what it is.......then who really cares, though?
it's not a bad thing in itself. It creates undesirable side-effects. Imagine all the truly talented artists who can't get a record deal because some schmoe used a popular pattern in their songs just to get attention.
Yeah, but blame that on the consumers themselves, not the genre.
The general public has always been morons, buying into whatever is trendy. It leaves those that know better quality stuck with something they know isn't good.
I personally don't think that was case at all. It's just that people just happen to love songs that very entertaining to them....... so that way they can blow off some steam, even if the songs do have nonsensical lyrics thrown into it.
It doesn't matter if these songs are meaningful or not, because in the end of the day......music is just another product. that's it.
@@billybassman21 "The general public has always been morons, buying into whatever is trendy. It leaves those that know better quality stuck with something they know isn't good."
Your viewpoint will not hold up to everyone.
It's a misnomer to call this "the millennial whoop" as it was already widespread long ago. It was very prevalent in the 1980s in songs like Deacon Blue's "Real Gone Kid" (1989). And a big 1930s hit like "Somewhere over the rainbow" could be argued to be using the same device ("Someday, I wish upon a star").
Its called that because of how prevalent it is in todays music - you'd have to scour musical history to find specific examples of this in the past, but in the last 17 years you can commonly find it in almost any genre from pop to the zombified remains of what is considered "rock".
Bit simplistic to suggest English is the global language because of colonialism
Name me a global language that is NOT one due to colonialism. Spanish no, French, no. Japanese, no they weren't colonialist their best attempts were stopped by the Chinese and then the Americans. We're really starting to run out of options now, aren't we? Even German, a hitherto-considered language of global science, was a language of a colonial power in significant parts of Africa.
Ian Bartle dude Spanish is popular because of colonialism. People in Central and South America didnt speak Spanish at first. French is also very popular in Africa due to France’s African colonies.
I'm a pop singer.
woah tove lo is hideous!!! cmon dude!!! hurting my feelings!!!!!
trap music same
pop music same
house music is not same
hip hop not same
hate 2017 cause of this
and house music and hip hop music isn't that famous plus it's different
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great video!
I wish the people doesn't use the same chords and beats if it's a mistake it's ok
You're out of your mind. A lot of house and hip hop sounds the same. Most popular Hip Hop today sounds the same, very repetitive phrasing, autotune and dumbed down beats. There was much more originality and creativity in Hip Hop back in the 90s
first language not same