That moment when "Donatella" realized the office was actually hers....I always think she went back in time in her Rolodex of Memories and remembered that one night she stood in The Oval Office and told her English Teacher Mrs. Marella that it was because of her that She was standing in there! ❤ And now, Donatella was standing in her own Office in The White House too!
I get Teri Polo being wowed, but Donna did work in the White House for 8 years... even if she never had occasion to go to the First Lady's Chief of Staff's offoce she should have a reasonable idea based on Leo's and other offices to set expectations
CJ has so earned the satisfaction of saying that she doesn't work there. Being Press Secretary was pure stress, and she got to see the Chief of Staff job killing Leo by inches, and finally completely, only to pick it up and carry that burden herself. I think she had to realize that if she had taken Santos offer, it would have wrecked her.
This serie was my life defining moment, my Shangri-La. Whenever I feel down in the dumps I switch on episodes or scenes of this serie and I am okay again. How I wish it was like this in real life!
Great ending, but every time I watch, I can't help but feel like Jed would/should have answered "...what's next". That was literally his catchphrase for the entire series and what he said when he was ready to move on. I think it would have been the perfect final words.
I think this is a good storytelling impulse but it's clear they had decided to use that phrase to signal the passing of the torch. Giving it to Santos in the oval. And using that moment to both look to the past (and recognize Spencer) while also ending on the hopeful note of looking to the future is really fitting. Ending with optimism for, tomorrow.
There is a really good spy drama mini series set in Australia about the joint US/AUS SigInt station at Pine Gap. In one episode, they reference more than once the US carrier USS Bartlet. Made me smile. Had to be him as they are currently named after presidents. Fitz would have approved.
Some were brilliantly written and made back then. Some are brilliantly written and made today. Most aren't, either today or back then. But we forget about those very quickly.
There were two napkins, according to the props team on the show. Aaron Sorkin was given one, and Tommy Schlamme the other. (Source: the West Wing Weekly podcast)
Watching this on my train ride home; maybe I should just rewatch this for the next 4 years. Harris would have created a new tomorrow not perfect with hope for the future. Now we just have to relive another 4 year nightmare.
@@stevena.2306Man do y'all ever stop exaggerating? Wahhh orange man bad. Everything was fine last time, in fact it was way better than the last 4 years.
More room in the East wing! But I agree it's a nice contrast especially given the relationship between Josh and Donna in the last few episode and how he offers her Deputy PressSec
I'm just going to say it. I kind of wish Vinnick would have won. How the writers would have handled that transition would have been fascinating and I know it would have been quality.
I'm sure you know this, but that is how it was originally written. When John Spencer died, they changed the outcome. I guess it just seemed too sad the other way.
They had to do the doey-eyed wonder moment, but are we really expected to believe that Donna never had to visit the First Lady's Chief of Staff's office in all of her 8 years working there?
Just a random thought, but Jimmy Smits was also in the prequels. That's interesting timing. Being a president in one universe and a senator in the other.
That was so common during the show (I remember how shocked I was when I saw what they did for the Democratic Convention in Season 5 - all the tricks they had to use.)
The shot at 5:07 is the first time I think they showed the real West Wing in The West Wing. Lots of shots of the Residence, of course, but rarely if ever of the West Wing.
@@catrionacolville2192 1:36 shows the North entrance of the West Wing. and yes, could be true they never shot on location, i dont know. scenes at the gates occured a lot though, but those were probably not shot on location either
This was supposed to be Biden and Kamala, too bad we have a country of idiots. Or as I’ve now chosen to call them Consenting Low Information People, or CLIPs for short
I would be fine with Vinick as president. He was a man of integrity and he loved his country, unlike those with zero integrity who love only themselves.
I'll be re-watching this series multiple times for therapy over the next 4 years...
If only we could live on this planet😢
Agree
You do
100
It's the Democrat arrogance like in this show is why Trump won
Best start to a series, Best end to a series....and everything in the middle was fantastic as well.
A time when America was founded on hope, not hate.
That moment when "Donatella" realized the office was actually hers....I always think she went back in time in her Rolodex of Memories and remembered that one night she stood in The Oval Office and told her English Teacher Mrs. Marella that it was because of her that She was standing in there! ❤ And now, Donatella was standing in her own Office in The White House too!
Every time I see that scene I find myself thinking 'Good for you, Donna'
@@ldkellandshaw Exactly! 👋
You just triggered a memory that brought a tear to this old mans eye.
@@rottingcorpse6002 Not "Old" my man....Experienced! 👋
I get Teri Polo being wowed, but Donna did work in the White House for 8 years... even if she never had occasion to go to the First Lady's Chief of Staff's offoce she should have a reasonable idea based on Leo's and other offices to set expectations
CJ has so earned the satisfaction of saying that she doesn't work there. Being Press Secretary was pure stress, and she got to see the Chief of Staff job killing Leo by inches, and finally completely, only to pick it up and carry that burden herself. I think she had to realize that if she had taken Santos offer, it would have wrecked her.
This serie was my life defining moment, my Shangri-La. Whenever I feel down in the dumps I switch on episodes or scenes of this serie and I am okay again. How I wish it was like this in real life!
Used to be for me too. Lately it just feels depressing. Too far removed from reality to be enjoyable
Great ending, but every time I watch, I can't help but feel like Jed would/should have answered "...what's next". That was literally his catchphrase for the entire series and what he said when he was ready to move on. I think it would have been the perfect final words.
I think this is a good storytelling impulse but it's clear they had decided to use that phrase to signal the passing of the torch. Giving it to Santos in the oval.
And using that moment to both look to the past (and recognize Spencer) while also ending on the hopeful note of looking to the future is really fitting. Ending with optimism for, tomorrow.
There is a really good spy drama mini series set in Australia about the joint US/AUS SigInt station at Pine Gap. In one episode, they reference more than once the US carrier USS Bartlet. Made me smile. Had to be him as they are currently named after presidents. Fitz would have approved.
Back when TV series were brilliantly written and made.
Some were brilliantly written and made back then. Some are brilliantly written and made today. Most aren't, either today or back then. But we forget about those very quickly.
I wonder if someone from the show kept the "Bartlet for America" napkin.
There were two napkins, according to the props team on the show. Aaron Sorkin was given one, and Tommy Schlamme the other. (Source: the West Wing Weekly podcast)
The President we all wish we had.
Honestly I could’ve EASILY watched another 7 seasons of this show with the staff assembled for the Santos administration.
I don't think I can watch this show the same way, ever again.
- a heartbroken American
Watching this on my train ride home; maybe I should just rewatch this for the next 4 years. Harris would have created a new tomorrow not perfect with hope for the future. Now we just have to relive another 4 year nightmare.
its dystopian
It was a fantasy - beautiful, but still that.
@@stevena.2306Man do y'all ever stop exaggerating? Wahhh orange man bad. Everything was fine last time, in fact it was way better than the last 4 years.
Is it just me or did Donna's office look bigger than the Oval Office?
2:28 gotta love the tourists ruining the shot by waving 😂
FLOTUS's CoS's office is so much nicer (and bigger) than POTUS's one. (At least in this White House)
More room in the East wing! But I agree it's a nice contrast especially given the relationship between Josh and Donna in the last few episode and how he offers her Deputy PressSec
I think pretty much every room on TWW was bigger than the actual counterpart in the White House.
@@AlexTurpin I think Donna working for the First Lady helped her relationship with Josh because they needed to keep things separate
@@aph1976Yeah, because Josh had no trouble with that the last time he was dating the FLOTUS CoS
2:27 I wonder if that was an extra that waved at the bottom of the screen or a random. 😂 If it was an extra he probably won't get hired again.
I'm just going to say it. I kind of wish Vinnick would have won. How the writers would have handled that transition would have been fascinating and I know it would have been quality.
I'm sure you know this, but that is how it was originally written. When John Spencer died, they changed the outcome. I guess it just seemed too sad the other way.
They had to do the doey-eyed wonder moment, but are we really expected to believe that Donna never had to visit the First Lady's Chief of Staff's office in all of her 8 years working there?
But it wasn't “her office” then. Her office had been a cubicle. Now she has her office.
Just a random thought, but Jimmy Smits was also in the prequels. That's interesting timing. Being a president in one universe and a senator in the other.
It wasn't another universe. It was another galaxy far, far away.
And a presidential candidate in 24
@@hazmat7949 For a second, I thought you meant 2024, the year not the tv show.
1:51 lmao CJ is *done* no more question answering for her
I like how they recycled the president elect's office to Donna Moss's office hahaha
That was so common during the show (I remember how shocked I was when I saw what they did for the Democratic Convention in Season 5 - all the tricks they had to use.)
i wonder if they writers argued about Bartlett saying "what comes next" as his final line.
Where has America gone?
"Awfully nice thing he did."
Writing is phenomenal, but when she closed the oval office door she should have said, Thank you Mr. President.
FLOTUS's chief of staff's office is about 5 times as large as the office of POTUS chief of staff. Leo/CJ's office is tiny!
ok really? Donna never went to the Chief of Staff of the First Lady's Office before? Even when it was Amy Gardner?
And now all we've got is sick, s and sour.
The shot at 5:07 is the first time I think they showed the real West Wing in The West Wing. Lots of shots of the Residence, of course, but rarely if ever of the West Wing.
You want to try that time stamp again?
@@catrionacolville2192 1:36 shows the North entrance of the West Wing. and yes, could be true they never shot on location, i dont know. scenes at the gates occured a lot though, but those were probably not shot on location either
We rewatch the whole series once the clocks go back. Sadly reality is the complete opposite. Trump is the Anti-Bartlet.
"Whats next ? " Such a Jewish Bartlett line❤
I’m pretty sure you meant to type either “Jed” or “Josiah” there.
And on Jan 22, 2025 Matt Santos was deported
America is so fucked.
Yes it is but, remember West Wing was fiction, not biographical of any US administration.
This was supposed to be Biden and Kamala, too bad we have a country of idiots. Or as I’ve now chosen to call them Consenting Low Information People, or CLIPs for short
Vinick would be the better president
Ironically he was gonna be but because of John Spencer’s death, it was changed.
@@Legba85that’s just a rumor
If Vinick was an accurate representation of real life Republicans these days, I might actually vote for them again.
I would be fine with Vinick as president. He was a man of integrity and he loved his country, unlike those with zero integrity who love only themselves.
@@joebrown3849 you think Santos is an accurate portrayal of a democrat? I understand it's a TV show and keep it that way.