Transmission Temperature Gauge Installation
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In this video we show you how to install an aftermarket automatic transmission temperature gauge on a 3rd Gen Toyota 4runner. 1st Gen Tacomas are very similar to 3rd Gen 4runners so I would bet it would be a similar if not an identical installation. Many vehicles offer transmission temperature information via the OBDII port but some don't. 1999-2002 4runners do provide trans temp info. You access it via the OBDII port with a tool like a Scan Gauge or via an OBDII Bluetooth reader that sends information to a phone app like Torque Pro. For 1996-1998 4runners, if you want to monitor transmission temps, you have to install an aftermarket gauge.
*HELPFUL TOOLS*
If you're looking for other tools not used in this video, check out Timmy's Master Tool List.
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*Impact Driver Set - (to remove A-pillar grab handle screws)
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*Ball Pein Hammer - (to strike impact driver)
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*Trim Removal Tool Set - (helps with removing interior plastic trim pieces)
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*Milwaukee Cordless Drill
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*Milwaukee Mi12 Cordless Ratchet - (speeds up removal and installation of fasteners)
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*Milwaukee M12 Battery
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*Milwaukee M12 High Capacity Battery
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*Milwaukee M12 Battery Charger
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*Drill Bit Set - (need drill bits to drill hole into A-pillar trim piece)
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*Vessel JIS Screwdriver - (nice screwdriver meant for Japanese made products)
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*Straight Needle Nose Pliers - (used to assist pulling out ashtray light bulb socket)
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*20 Piece Screwdriver Set - (nice set if you're in the market for a screwdriver set)
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*Utility Blade - (used at various times in video)
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*Knipex Diagonal Cutters - (to cut wire connections)
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*Interchangeable Ratcheting Terminal Crimper Set (We used this in the video and I now own this kit)
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*Wire Strippers/Cutters 8-22 AWG Wire ( I bought this for future wiring jobs)
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*Wire Strippers/Cutters 22-32 AWG Stranded Wire (I bought this for future wiring jobs)
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*Heat Gun (Not the same gun we used in the video. I bought this for future wiring jobs)
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*Split Wire Loom Insertion Tool (We used this in the video and I now own the 4 piece tool kit)
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*Stubby 3/8” Flex Head Ratchet - (it use to be available for sale separately but now we can only find it as part of this 4-piece set) amzn.to/39kQVit
*3/8” Drive Regular Extension Set
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*3/8" Drive 6 Point Metric Standard Socket Set
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*Brite-Mark Medium Tip Paint Marker, Orange - (to mark where you want to cut the trans cooler send line) amzn.to/2OyTwre
*PVC Pipe Cutters - (to cut trans cooler send line hose. makes nice straight cuts)
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*Clear RTV Silicone - (to seal where wires are going into the universal firewall boot)
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*PARTS*
1/4” Brass Tee
(2) 3/8” Brass Hose Barb x 1/4” MIP
*1/4” x 1/8” Brass Bushing
*Hose Clamps (Size Range 5/16” - 5/8”)
*Teflon Paste or Teflon Tape
*3/8” Split Wire Loom (You can also by this by the foot at Auto Parts Stores)
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*11/4” Universal Firewall Boot
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*Black and Green MaxTow Transmission Temperature Gauge
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*Auto Meter 15411 Gauge Works Single Gauge Pod
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*SEM 15893 Medium Prairie Tan Color Coat - 16 fl. oz.
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*Heat Shrink Solder & Crimp Butt Connectors (These are the ones we used in the video)
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*In addition to shrink butt connectors, I thought some shrink tubing over the top of the connection might be good too. I bought this kit.
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*PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT AND ALSO READ THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION FOR HELPFUL INFORMATION*
**Even though this modification was done on a 3rd Gen 4runner, this video would give you an idea on how to install an aftermarket gauge on any vehicle. Depending on the gauge you purchase, you will need to tap into the appropriate wires on your vehicle to power it. You'll also need to tap into one of the transmission cooler lines. We recommend tapping into the send line because that will be the most accurate representation of your transmission fluid temperature. If you tap into the return line, that's after the fluid has run through the cooler and it will show you a temperature lower than your transmission is actually at. Finally you'll have to decide where to mount it. The A-pillar is a great spot to mount the gauge because it's at eye level making it easy to read while you're keeping your eyes on the road.
**For those of you that found this video and have a vehicle that provides transmission temperature from the ECU, you don't need this modification to monitor your transmission temperature. You can pull the trans temps from the ECU via the OBDII port with either a Scan Gauge Tool or use a Bluetooth reader that sends information to a phone app.
Here's a link to a Scan Gauge: amzn.to/36ge7HU
I chose to buy a Bluetooth reader and use a phone app because it's much more affordable and I believe more versatile.
I bought this Bluetooth Reader (For Android Devices Only):
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I bought this extension cable for two reasons. It allows you to put the reader somewhere other than directly into the OBDII port and it has a shut-off switch. The OBDII port on 3rd Gens faces downward, so on bumpy roads, it can work it's way out of the port and fall out. Also, it's right near your right foot and I've actually bumped it accidentally with my foot which could break the reader and/or your OBDII port if you hit it hard enough. These readers also consistently draw power from your vehicle. If you left it installed and your vehicle sat for a long time, it could drain your battery. So, an On/off switch is nice to have.
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Here's some info on the Torque Pro app I use:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en
speaking of the wiring god Mike first where can the wiring diagram for the 8v swap be used on a 97 runner and if so where can one get the wiring pinout ?
Hey Timmy! Long time no chat. Do you have any recommendations on a bluetooth reader for Iphone?
@@RoNBEE1 Hey Ron, not really. I only have experience with Android phones. I do remember doing a search for a reader for iPhones on Amazon and there were ones that got good reviews. If it were me, I'd just do a search on Amazon and let the positive reviews narrow down my purchase.
I used a drill and a drill bit to heat up the screw on the a pillar handle then used a stripped screw remover and it worked easily, had to go that route because my impact driver screw driver tip broke trying to remove it. using the drill and leaving it turning for a while heats up the screw quite a bit, enough to melt the thread lock.
Good job getting it done.
Hold a hot soldering iron on the bolt head and it softens the threadlock, making the bolt easier to remove.
Thanks for the tip.
Awesome video as always! I purchased my Runner about a year ago with the intention of learning how and becoming comfortable with tackling car maintenance by myself. And your videos have helped a TON! I appreciate that you go over every detail and do it right so that people like me don't pick up other people's bad habits. I'm sad at the amount if crticism you get on your videos but I'm SO happy you just brush it off and keep going! Thanks Tim(and Sean)! Keep doing awesome work so the rest of us can too!
Thanks Noah. Great to know our videos have helped you out. Our style is to be very detailed so nobody ends up scratching their head and saying, "How did they do that?" Or, "What tools did they use?" Being very detailed comes at a price and that's longer videos. We have received criticism for the length of our videos but we don't care. We'd rather give more information than not enough to give people the best chance at success following one of our video tutorials. It really is a silly criticism because people have the ability to skip parts they don't need instruction on. It's pretty simple. We definitely have haters though. When I posted this video, within the first half hour, their was a thumbs down. The video is an hour long so they couldn't even have watched it yet. Somebody that doesn't like us, or most likely just me, is a subscriber and will give an immediate thumbs down to every video we put out. I guess they think they're doing us some harm, but I know the product we're putting out is good, so I just laugh and ignore it.
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Happy Wrenching!
Yes, after I bought my T 3.4, I have been watching your videos and am becoming a mechanic... better than some "Smart SSS' mechanics", who can be called "S-Roles"... Those might be the ones who criticize and leave thumbs down or negative comments. Happy wrenching from Florida!
Thanks!
Thanks for the Super Thanks Andrew. We really appreciate it!
Are the stock radiators really prone to fail and mix between coolant and atf? I’m new to my 3rd gen and i’ve seen a lot of people bypassing the radiator. I’m not sure they’re aware of the fact the radiator also heats up the atf in order to bring it to operating temperature. I think the solution is just a new radiator. (for preventative maintenance)
There have definitely been instances of the trans cooler cracking causing a mixing of the ATF and coolant and then ruining the transmission. How common is it? Hard to say for sure but it's my belief it's more on the rare side. When enough people post the "Pink Milkshake" issue on the Toyota forums, the knee jerk reaction is to go out and bypass the radiator trans cooler so it never happens to them. I did my research and decided to just replace my radiator as preventative maintenance and added an external trans cooler and ran it in-line with the radiator cooler to help keep my temps a little lower when I'm really pushing my rig.
Not to shoot you down great video and lots of links but I think a scan gauge 2 would be better then doing all this you plug it into you obd 2 port and you get the tranny temp and many more even your on the fly mph for 170ish
Hey Adam, you might not know this but 1996-1998 3rd Gen 4runners don't offer trans temp info via the OBD II port. The computer doesn't record that data. All you get with those years is an idiot light that lights up on the dash if your trans temp gets up to 300 degrees. So, in order to be able to monitor the trans temp on my 98 4runner, installing the aftermarket gauge was my only option. The years 1999-2002 offers trans temp info via the OBD II port. For my 2000 4runner, I use a Bluetooth OBDII port reader that sends info to the Torque Pro app I have on my Android phone. I take it you didn't read the video description because I cover all this info there.
The OBD II reader is $22
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I use an on/off switch with it because the reader will draw power even when the vehicle is off. $12:
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The Torque Pro phone app is $5. As you can see, the total cost of the set-up is only $38. That's just a tad more affordable than the scan gauge 2, So, not to shoot you down Adam, but I think I just schooled you. Don't worry, I get schooled fairly regularly myself. It happens to the best of us. Happy Wrenching Adam.
Is that toque pro app legit with the trans temp? Ive heard it just copies engine temp?
Yes it is legit and no it doesn't just copy the engine temp.
I was able to run an 83 corolla with a bad fuel pump. The windshield washer fluid pump and reservoir were used to supply fuel to the engine and we traveled 75 miles home. Of course this worked because the engine is carbureted.
That was some ingenious MacGyvering right there.
Great Videos... I've learned a lot with them I have a 2002 4runner with 240k miles and is running strong.... Thank you for making them and teaching us... Can you make a video on how to disable the day running lights please... Keep it up 3rd Gens all the way...
Hey Albert, glad you learning quite a bit from the videos we've made. We might make a video about disabling the day running lights at some point but don't have any plans for it in the near future. I know there's write-ups on it though. Do a Google search and I'm sure you'll find quite a bit of info on it, most likely on the T4R.org forum.
Real action, real mechanic, good job Timmy. 👍😎
Thanks Brother!
So I have a 2000 model so mind should tell me electronically. However I prefer the look of a gauge. Would this work for mine? Or is there a way to tap into the electronic data for the trans temp and have it displayed on a gauge like this?
I wouldn't know how to tap into the harness wiring to retrieve the transmission temp. You could do it just like I show in the video though.
Hey Tim, my 5vzfe swapped Fj40 has a manual R150f. Does that require a transmission cooler? And should I be worried about monitoring the transmission temperature considering I will never be towing stuff?
You don't need to monitor a manual transmission temp. It's automatic transmissions you want to monitor and consider getting a cooler for. A manual transmission just runs gear oil like the transfer case and differentials and isn't something that requires monitoring.
@@TimmyTheToolman Phew! Thanks for the reply. Keep up the great work...love this channel 👍
@@spago555 We will keep on keeping on. Happy Wrenching My Pakistani Brother!
Another hi quality video from Timmy and his friends🎬📹. Maybe I use double sided adhesive tape from 3m, insted of screws, to mount on the trim. I want to paint my inside door panel and dash in black. Can i use the same paint brand? Thanks again for a informative good video guys. 😎👍🇸🇯
Maybe double-sided tape could work if you filed down those edges of the gauge pod so the tape would be grabbing more of the surface of the pod. I'm wondering though if the pod is made that way so the gauge doesn't overheat. If the pod perfectly conformed to the A-pillar trim piece, air flow would be minimal other than through the hole we created to run the wires.
Yeah, you could definitely use that SEM paint brand to paint your door panel. Black should be a very easy color to find.
Thanks for good advice😎👍
Oh you know they have battery operated impact guns and air operated impact guns and blue loctite is serviceable it should not be that hard
Yeah, we know they have battery operated and air operated impact guns. But, are you going to be able to hold sufficient pressure against the head of the screw to get it out or are you going to strip the head of the screw and now you're screwed. The impact screwdriver we used in this video is what we recommend people use so they don't end up striping out the head of the screw and then are forced to drill it out. The hammer strikes onto the impact screwdriver and incremental turning of the tool help avoid stripping out the head of the screw.
I don't know what type of loctite Toyota used for those screws but it's a hell of a lot stronger than the standard Blue 242 Loctite you mentioned.
If one the connections is connected to a 12v power source that always stays on won't the guage stay on when the vehicle is off?
No, if you wire it like we explain in the video, the gauge is only operating when you turn the ignition key on. There's a 12 volt constant and a 12 volt switched.
Tim...that tee is 1/4”? So the barb that screws into the tee is 1/4 and the barb is 3/8”?
Yes. All the parts are listed in the video description.
Timmy The Toolman wow thay was quick!! Thanks Tim!! Sick mods 👍🏼
@@rallypoint1 You're welcome. Sick mods indeed!
Can I install a gauge like this in our 2009 RAV4?
You could Steven but it shouldn't be necessary because your 2009 RAV 4 should offer trans temp info via the OBD II port. If you just get yourself a phone app and a Bluetooth OBD II reader, you can keep track of your trans temp without having to install an aftermarket gauge. If you have an Android phone, you can get the same set-up I have. If you have an Apple iPhone, you'll have to get a different app and reader. The phone app I'm using is Torque Pro. It costs around $5. The reader I bought and also a shut-off switch is linked below.
**OBDII Reader
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**Shut-off Switch - It allows you to turn off the power to your reader so you don't have to pull it out every time. The reader constantly draws a small amount of power and could drain your battery if your truck sits for a long time.
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dude everything you i can do to my landcruiser 90 series (its the same as 4runner)
That's good. That means you can get some use out of the videos Sean and I make.
I have a 1997 Toyota 4Runner and it doesn’t have a AT temp sensor. Can I install one and use my obd Bluetooth app or do I have to install a gauge as well?
No, there isn't a sensor you can add to your trans that would allow you to pull trans temp info from the ECU via an OBD II reader. If you want to monitor your trans temp, you will need to do what we show in the video by adding a temp sensor somewhere in the ATF fluid path and then connect that to an aftermarket gauge you install in your passenger compartment.
@@TimmyTheToolman Thanks you so much your videos and advise are always a huge help😀
@@bryantr.7787 You're very welcome Bryant.
Are the digital numbers flashing constantly, or is it a video glitch thing? That would drive me NUTS!!!
What you are seeing is a typical phenomenon where the camera can not keep up with how fast the LED’s are turning on/off. LED lights run between 50 and 60 Hz, making them susceptible to the flickering effect.
- Sean
Ok, thanks! Just wanted to make sure. Appreciate your video!
@@jbw7346 You're welcome.
Attempting to do this install now on my 98 SR5 4Runner but my factory wiring must be different than yours Timmy. I don’t have a grey wire, only a grey/black. And my blue/black wire is in a different location in the factory harness. Suffice to say, attempted to splice in and lost power to my stereo speakers & have zero power to my temp gauge. Hoping to figure out the wiring, if I do I’ll post here to share for others.
Hope you figure it out Brittani.
Got it figured out! Maybe this is common knowledge but if you have the factory stereo and amp you’ll need to splice in behind the amp! It’s two screws to remove the amp after you disconnect the stereo. There I found the two clips that are just like the ones your aftermarket radio harness clipped into. All the wires/colors then matched up as described and everything is working. Hope this helps anyone with a factory setup 😅
@brittanifenimore7047 Great to hear you figured it out Brittani. Good job!
@@brittanifenimore7047 solid! Thanks for coming back to the comments and sharing your experience, we hope it helps others in the future!
Awesome video. My ‘02 SR5 has the push button 4x4 on the side
it's been over 2 years, how is it holding up? also, I want to flush my transmission in my 2016 4Runner, but to check the fluid level, the trans temp has to be between 104 and 113°F.
What method would you use if I really only need the trans temp for doing the flush? THANKS!
The trans temp gauge is holding up fine. But, you can get trans temp info from your OBD II port with some type of reader with your 2016 4runner. I use a Bluetooth OBD II reader that sends info to a phone app called Torque Pro on my Android phone. They also make readers and apps for iPhones.
The following info was taken from one of our other video descriptions:
**The phone app I use to monitor my trans temp is Torque Pro. It's only available for Android phones. If you have an iPhone, there are similar apps you can purchase.
**If you're interested in buying an OBDII reader that works with Android devices, here's what I got:
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**And, if you go the Bluetooth reader route, buy this as well. It allows you to turn off the power to your reader so you don't have to pull it out every time. The reader constantly draws a small amount of power and could drain your battery if your truck sits for a long time.
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Hi Tim
I’ve 2017 LC200 and I’m using kiwi OBD & Auto Doctor App’s; however I couldn’t monitor transmission oil temperature though out those applications, specialty driving uphill “mountains” with trailer at the back. Your advise is highly appreciated. Thanks
In this video description th-cam.com/video/2nVbwe2t2T8/w-d-xo.html I list the OBD II reader and on/off switch I use with the Torque Pro app on my Android phone. If you have an android phone, you could purchase the same reader, switch and phone app. If you have a iPhone, I'm not familiar with the apps for those phones and the reader I bought wouldn't work for you. You without a doubt should be able to read trans temps via the OBD II port on a 2017 vehicle. The ability to read trans temps on 4runners via the port started in 1999. If you can't figure it out with your current app, try another one.
So I followed a very similar method for getting my sensor and gauge hooked up. My concern is my gauge is reading some very low ball temps, specifically it bounces from 125-155. But never reaches 170’ F, im fairly certain I have it on the Hot line, but does the sensor bounce if it isnt insulated on the exterior? Like wind cooling the sensor ? Any ideas? The T piece I changed it from upright, to the being more level with the ground, so that the sensor is actually being filled with the fluid. I have a 99 3.4L Limited with the A340E tranny.
125 to 155 is about normal for everyday driving. If you start to drive in the hills, you'll start to get into the 170's and beyond.
Where can I get the sending sensor?
Check out the link in the video description towards the bottom.
What application are you running with the obd2 reader. I have a 99 limited
I used Torque Pro. It's only for Android phones.
@@TimmyTheToolman apperciate it
@@ThatGlock45 No problem.
What's your opinion of the ISR mod? Not really looking for performance improvements, I just like that "whooshy" sound
My opinion is it really does nothing. But, if you like whooshy sound, go for it.
What is normal running temp for town driving and what would normal be for off-roading, I just finish installing mine and i do 135 to 150ish in town and off-road is at 180 to 195 there.
Hey Vang, there's lots of variables to consider so it's a hard question to answer. Your trans temp will vary based off the ambient temperature and the load you're putting on it. But, I can tell you that the numbers you are seeing sound about right for a mild climate like I have in the California Bay Area. If you were in Phoenix Arizona in the middle of summer, I'd expect your temps would be higher. When 4wheeling, do yourself a favor and use 4Lo for sustained climbs. It makes a HUGE difference in your temp. Also, when driving paved mountain roads, turn overdrive off. When you are at that speed between 3rd gear and overdrive, having OD off can drop your trans temp by around 20 degrees.
Cool thnx ill keep that in mind
Hey timmy, whats the hottest youve seen the trans temp at? And what is average operating temp? Only reason i ask is i have a 99 4runner with scanguage hooked up. average trans temp reads about 140. Hottest ive seen it get was 240 uphill not towing anything, while my coolant temps sit around 186-190 the whole time. Maybe install bm trans cooler.. asap?
The highest I've seen is around 240 also and that was with an external trans cooler. It's not hard to spike the temps on an automatic transmission. All it takes is a consistent grade for a decent distance and your temps will go up very high and that's why it's good to monitor your trans temp. An external cooler does help. Turning Overdrive off helps when you're in between 3rd Gear and Overdrive. Going into 4Lo while 4wheeling will help too. 240 is high but it's not like you did any damage to your trans either. 240 is about the time I start thinking about pulling over and giving my transmission a break. I did this on a Death Valley trip when we were climbing a crazy steep road grade that went on for a long long time on a 100 degree day. It's hard to say what my average is but I'd say somewhere around 140-170 is probably average.
@@TimmyTheToolman cool beans!! Think ima install a trans cooler for safe measures. Keep up the great work with your youtube chanel. Your the first guy i go to see when i run into diy on my runner. Aaaloha from the Big Island
Got a 99 4runner,and new radiator,was installed by previous owner.noticed the other day that trans fluid was milk shake.so I drained and filled with new fluid.i have a new cooler want to install,and bypass that pos radiator..I noticed that transmission failior is due to that.
If you want to save that trans, you need to do multiple fluid flushes to get all the contamination out of the trans.
@@TimmyTheToolman Yes correct, I've done it twice already..
@@rx7cl Hopefully you caught it quick enough and your trans lasts you for a lot longer.
@@TimmyTheToolman it seems to be ok..no slipping,or weird shifts...when I installed the cooler I took the lines off let them hang in a pan and started truck.kept refilling and start again.till it looked pretty red...lol man...pain in the ass.....
@@rx7cl Good to hear.
Thx man! Just got an 02 with 240k miles on it. Thanks to your vids I did the front belts, trans flush, coolant flush, stereo dvd install, will tackle this mod next! What is your screen name on T4R?
Btw.. I had that pesky CEL-VSC light on. Pulled the codes and found the AF sensor was bad. Replaced with a Denso off Amazon, and so far no more lights✌
You don't need this mod for your 02. You could pull trans temp info from the OBDII port with either a Scan Gauge or you can do like I did and buy a Bluetooth OBDII reader that sends ECU information to a phone app like Torque Pro. Torque Pro is for Android Phones only. If you have an Apple I-phone, you'll have to find a Bluetooth reader and phone app that works with Apple products.
Good job fixing CEL-VSC light problem. That's interesting that a CEL for an AF Sensor caused the traction control VSC light to come on.
Where did you find a 98 with only 132k on it?! That's a nice runner, and I'm not just saying that because it looks exactly like mine! Thanks for giving me another project to do lol
Hey Barak, I found it in Santa Rosa. I bought it off a lady in her 70's. Her neighbor suffered a stroke and asked her to take care of his dog and the 4runner came with it so she could haul the dog around. The inside of the rig definitely smelled like dog, and after some cleaning, it still does somewhat. The dog passed away and the lady bought a Prius and didn't need the 4runner anymore. She inquired about trading it in at the dealership and those freaking crooks were only going to give her $1000 for it. You know they would have put that on their lot for sale for at least $8000 but probably more.
I purchased the same impact driver. I’m about to try and attempt to remove the bottom bolt so I can install my scanguage mount. I was told that the bolt is a JIS. Would it be okay to still use the philips head that comes with the impact driver to try and remove the bolt?
In the video at 6:28 you say that you use a impact philips head. Just wanna double check it’s a philips and not a JIS that you use?
@@951cchriss The phillips impact driver works fine on the JIS grab handle screws.
If you don't want to use screws on the A-pillar, use a slightly smaller drill bit than what the instructions recommend. I used the trim plugs that came with the Autometer A-piller and they were a very tight fit.
Good to know. Thanks for the input.
Just wanted to say thank you Tim! I did this healthy mod today, got the same pod as yours and the maxtow gauge, followed all your advice and was super easy and now I feel more confident doing longer trips.
You're very welcome Pauly. Glad our video helped you out. Good job doing this mod because knowledge is power and ignorance isn't bliss when it comes to monitoring your trans temps especially when your driving in the mountains or areas with very high ambient temps. Happy Wrenching!
Has anyone else here had problems with leaking on the T fitting with the 1/8 to 1/4 bushing? I used Teflon on it and I'm starting to think I shouldn't have. Not dropping fluid on the ground but it's pretty much sweating through slowly.
You could try some teflon paste instead and see if that makes a better seal.
@@TimmyTheToolman I just tightened it up some more but if it doesn't work I may have to.
@@davidseck1146 Hopefully it will be leak-free now.
this guys speaks too fast and Timmy has a great speed voice and pronunciation even when english is not my native language
Yeah, Mikey does speak a little fast. But, he's a super cool guy and I'm glad he was able to help me with this project.
Tim Didja hear?
Me and my Runner are moving in next door.. Put on a pot or kettle.
Next door? You moving to San Josey? It's very expensive here.
Timmy The Toolman
I was just being funny... I have a buddy in SB says it's expensive there too.... I'm in NY.... i know all about expensive.. watched this video too... I'm making a habit out of it.
I figured you were. We are both living in the some of the most unaffordable housing markets in the world.
That aint no lie.... Low "6 figures" and it's still tight.. ... I do like it out there though... the Car/Truck culture and the weather is tops! it sucks here..
Yeah, the weather is hard to beat in the California Bay Area. I was in the Los Angeles area last week and it was hotter than hell. It was around 110 degrees the two days I was there.
Tim, why did you not need to ground the tee? Was it something special about the gauge? Normally both the tee and gauge (if illuminated) need to be grounded.
I don't know why the tee that the sensor is located in needs to be grounded. My gauge works fine. I followed the instructions in the gauge manual and used a person's write-up as a reference as well on how to tap into the trans cooler line for the sensor.
@@TimmyTheToolman Turns out the particular sending unit that you used has two wires, one functions as ground. Many sending units only have one wire, which would require the tee/manifold to be grounded.
@@GlorifiedPizza Oh, gotcha.
What does the ETC button do? I’ve also got a button that has a drawing that looks like the axles with wheels and drive line with x in middle of drive shaft. You have any idea what these are?
Josh, do you have an owners manual in your rig? If so, it will describe what these buttons do.
Timmy The Toolman I do not or I’d know what they were already. Thanks anyway.
@@joshreed7102 Here Josh, here's some info for you regarding the ECT button: www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/53420-what-does-ect-button-do-really.html
That button you described is your Center Diff Lock. Here's a link that explains it really well: www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/78448-t-case-differences-all-years-3rd-gens-transfer-case-awd-multi-mode.html
Mine has 99 I don't see that's hole behind the fuel line ??? Any idea ?
They must have changed the body. You'll have to find a different pathway for the wire or drill your own hole in the firewall.
@@TimmyTheToolman hey Timmy glad u replied that fast. Well it has the lil plastic but after remove it still firewall behind it .. weird ... Well guess have to go to the far driver side grommet
@@charlesyii8963 Are you sure it's not just the rubber sheet behind that plug that I had to push through. It's actually metal behind the plug?
Hi Timmy , is actually a metal firewall behind the plastic pieces . Maybe it is only for 99 limited . Well I do really appreciate you for your time , always watch your channel first if I need any 4rumner project .
@@charlesyii8963 Interesting. Maybe you can drill a hole from the cab side under the dash and still use that hole. Good to hear you value our channel.
To loosening the " Oh $#it handle, use a lester tool and a rivet driver gun. that might be easier.
I looked up what a lester tool is and didn't come up with much. Is this spelled right? Could you provide a link? Also, how is a rivet driver gun doing to help get a loctited screw out? I'm definitely open to different ways to accomplish something but I'm having some trouble visualizing your suggestion. The impact driver is a little bit of work but it's been 100% successful so far for me.
@@TimmyTheToolman I know this an 8 month old question but it is also called a rivet gun screw knocker. It is used on stubborn or corroded screws to get the threads freed up to spin. I used them in aviation maintenance.
Hey Tim I’ve been looking to purchase one of these third gen 4runners but can’t seem to find a low mileage 4wd, how many miles is too many on these 4runners?, 200k+ miles is all I’m able to find, btw love your vids man very detailed
fortis619 dude, my 98 has 377K, never had the motor out or apart, still going strong. Proper maintenance, I see over 500K easy. Mine is a daily driver, used hard, not babied by no means. 1toughT4r
It's getting harder to find low-mileage 3rd Gens but they're still out there especially in California where it seems a ton of people bought them. At the beginning of the year I found a 98 with 130k. I bought it for $6500. For the current market, that was a great price but I still think I overpaid. The Kelly Blue Book value was around $4500.
I personally wanted to buy my vehicles closer to 100k so I'd hopefully get a lot of life out of them before having major drivetrain issues. Like the other person who answered your question, these engines can last a really long time, above 400k. But, there's plenty of people who've also unfortunately experienced a blown head gasket or cracked head around the 200k mark. Or, they experienced a transmission failure. So, it's sort or a crapshoot. People are asking seriously stupid money for these 3rd Gens. 1st Gen Tacomas are even worse. They're asking $5000 - $10,000 over Kelly Blue Book values. I think it's relatively safe to buy a 3rd Gen with 200k+ as long as it was well-maintained. Service records are vital because a CarFax report doesn't show everything. If it was well-maintained by the previous owner(s), I'd buy a higher mileage 3rd Gen. Just don't overpay. I wouldn't give some dude $10,000 for a 3rd Gen with over 200k miles regardless if it had a bunch of modifications. Like I said, people are currently asking crazy money for these. If you don't want to search a long time like I did, you'll have to overpay quite a bit to find a good one.
If you're not in a hurry to buy, just search everyday on Craigslist and hopefully one will pop up with low mileage, in good shape and for a fair price. It took me over a year to be in the right place at the right time to buy that 98. Expanding your search area can help a lot. I use a website called autotempest.com. You can put whatever search distance from your location you want and it will search all the Craigslist areas for you within your search distance. It's super helpful for finding a vehicle.
Glad you're liking the videos Sean and I have been making. Good luck with the 3rd Gen search.
Keep looking man. Just got my dad in a 96' with 146K miles for $5k. Its in perfect shape inside and out.
Wow, that's a great deal. Good find!
is there a way to set up the trans temp sensor to be read through the OBD2 instead of the analog display?
I don't think that's possible. The OBD II port is taking information from the ECU that's getting it's info from various sensors on the rig. I think you'd have to tap into the ECU for what you're asking for, and because of that, I don't think that's possible unless you're some kind of electronic and computer guru.
@@TimmyTheToolman thanks for the heads up. Keep the great vids coming. I love how thorough they are. Its very helpful being able to work on my 98 T4R SR5 4x4.
I wish I would have seen the way you remove the grab handle. I have stripped the heads of screws.
Yo Timmy, do you have an Instagram ? I’d like to see pics of you and your crew’s 3rd Gens.
Never mind . I found it
Yeah, Sean started that Instagram page for our channel. When you comment on it, it's Sean you're talking to.
I purchased the Champion drop-in aluminum radiator and apparently it has the cooling nipples. Also added two Tru-cool 8x11 coolers in front of the AC condenser but have not plumbed everything up yet. Do you think it is still worth the work involved to install this gauge? Towing a travel trailer up hills like the grape-vine is what worries me so the cooling should be a bit of overkill.
Absolutely monitor your trans temps. I think it's very important. It was one of the first things I wanted to do to my 98 4runner when I bought it. I like to know where the trans temp is at especially when I'm driving mountain roads or going 4wheeling. Without a gauge, you don't know when the temperature is getting to a point where it would be prudent to stop and give your transmission a break. The mark I've set for myself is 230 F because the life of the fluid rapidly deteriorates above 230.
I will take your advice. Opting not to put a boost gauge in because a dual pod looks like it would be distracting. Going for dark blue MaxTow so it is less distracting at night.
stiffmeister0hYeah I've seen people with the dual pod a-pillar gauge set-ups. They look pretty good from what I've seen. You lose the grab rail though.
Those loctite handle screws are no joke! I had to just grind them to a nub since i failed with the screw/hammer thing and vice grips.
We're batting 1000 using the impact drivers, on Mark's rig and now on my rig. But, you now have experienced this first hand. Why the hell Toyota decided to use loctite on these screws doesn't make sense. Those screws would have to back out a long way before the handle would become disconnected from the a-pillar. I think you'd notice it loose way before it would actually detach from the pillar. I don't see this as a huge safety factor but somebody made the decision at Toyota to do this and it was a bad decision.
I just ordered mine...my scanguage I was never happy where it was installed but now I think this is the shit!
sicmods Rodney! I hope your install goes smoothly! Please report back with your experience.
@@TimmyTheToolman worked out amazing...love where my new gauge is!
@@oldsklminitrk Good to hear.
Would a water coolant temp guage install be the same with the obvious exception of where you'd install the sensor? If not, would you consider making a video for that installation? Thanks Timmy!
Yes, installing a coolant temp sensor would be similar but I doubt I'll make a video about it. But, you never know, maybe we will one day.
@@TimmyTheToolman where along the chain would you recommend I install the guage sensor for it?
@@j.a.8970A buddy of mine installed the sensor into the upper radiator hose. Can't remember the brand sensor and gauge he purchased though. I wonder if they make ones that can tap into the heater core lines.
@@TimmyTheToolman one last question. So i got the trans temp, water coolant, and egt guages all from the same make as shown in the video. Am i able to connect/tap into all 3 of those simultaneously into the same wires as you showed for just the trans temp guage alone? Or would that overload anything? Thanks for your help yet again Timmy!
@@j.a.8970 Good question and I don't have an answer for you. I guess it depends how much those gauges draw and what amperage those wires and circuit can allow. Safe to say, I'm not an electrical guru. Sorry I couldn't give you a definitive answer to this question. You're probably safer to tap into other things that you can pull power from like the digital clock to power the other gauges.
Hey Tim, do you have a link to the face bushing? I'm having a tough time trying to find it here.
If you're talking about the fire wall grommet, we provide a link in the video description.
Timmy The Toolman no actually I was talking about the 1/4 to 1/8 fitting for the gauge. Unfortunately osh doesn’t exist anymore and Home Depot only had the barb and tee fitting. I ordered it online though.. I do want to ask you though. For the wiring on the power side since I don’t have the same harness As you could I just as well tie into the OEM wiring before the radio and use quick splice connectors? This would prevent me from fully cutting in and further possibly damaging the wire before my head unit..
@@davidseck1146 I'm not familiar with quick splice connectors but I imagine it would be fine as long as you are tapping into the correct lines you need to power the gauge.
TIPS bucket, lol...
Are you talking about our Tip Jar link?
Got a video on how to install an oil pressure gauge?
Sorry Alex, we don't have one for that. I guess knowing your oil pressure could be helpful but as long as you know your oil is full, I don't think there are any type of oil leaks that cause a severe loss of oil and thus pressure during one drive, even a long drive. Now, if somebody does something stupid and forgets to tighten the oil pan drain plug after an oil change or doesn't properly tighten the oil filter, well, you can't fix stupid. Maybe I'm wrong and there's been cases of seals catastrophically failing but I haven't heard of them. Usually people overheat their engine when a coolant hose blows and they're not paying attention to their engine temp gauge.
can you do the same thing to a manual 98 4runner
No, you couldn't. And, you really don't need to worry about the temp of a manual trans, transfer case and differentials that run gear oil. The important thing is to make sure the gear oil is full and you renew the oil at regular intervals. Every 30k miles is a standard interval for replacing gear oil unless you're using a synthetic gear oil and you can use it for more miles.
Timmy The Toolman thanks. love your videos! always helpful.
@@MrFernycboe You're welcome and glad you like our videos.
Did you change the trim plugs out to screws instead?
Yes, I mention that in the video. I didn't like how well the plugs held so I switched to small screws with nuts and washers on the back side.
Timmy The Toolman sorry man. Missed that. Good stuff again brother
No worries. Glad you like the video Brother.
Do a vid on how to know if you have obd2.
I don't think a video is necessary. Basically, if your vehicle was built from 1996 and newer, it has an OBD II port.