DC International & the aborted audio cassette format war
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- When is a cassette not a Cassette? When it's a DC International Cassette. The odd tale of a Philips' project that turned against them.
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The puppets at the end did a really good job at explaining the nonsense that are TH-cam -copyright- Content ID claims.
those chips looked really yum too
I had to look up fair use again -- I thought it should be fine because of duration, but perhaps not.
That bit should probably be uploaded on it's own as a handy reference for explaining how bad it is to people.
th-cam.com/video/NtmtFkxOnrg/w-d-xo.html
Flippin' Heck (
Mentions another obscure audio format "I have a box of tapes and a player I'll show you sometime..." - YES! :)
That is the complete package of reviewing an obscure format.
Still waiting for this one. I NEEEEEED IT!!!
Just when you think Techmoan has presented every imaginable video/audio medium ever being out there, he surprises us with yet another one. I had never heard of this. Great video!
You've stolen my comment!
@@mxcrec Your thoughts are not your own.
How did Jos Jong see this 4 days ago? It was just put up today.
@@jlc38 Patreon
@@jlc38 He is Patreon supporter I think
Taking people's chip money, that's pretty heinous.
its almost like youtube is run a a bunch of retarded robots, and few equally stupid humans.
@@TubbyJ420 lol.
Isn't eleven seconds within the guise of fair use, especially considering that was sampled from a derivative work created expressly for marketing purposes to begin with? Techmoan is not claiming that he had anything to do with the creation of the original work, nor is he uploading the complete original work or even a large part of the original work.
@@TWX1138 Yes but he's British - it's called fair dealing over there, and the exceptions are narrower than in US law. He miiight still have a case, but just to get to the point where a judge can say yes or no on that, he'd have to go through the appeal, takedown, and counter-notification steps, and then get sued. Much easier to just mute 11 seconds off the video and send the claimnant off.
But what a wonderful, good humoured (and humorous) non grouchy way to make a statement by Techmoan. I’m sure most of us would just sound off angrily to much less effect. Yes indeed 11 seconds sounds ridiculous but I suppose rules have to start somewhere?
In an alternate universe Phillips had the only casette format, putting themselves in a stronger position to demand Sony pay licensing fees, so Sony... made their own format. And in that universe Techmoanenstein has just put up a video about the obscure and forgotten "compact casette" format that was only sold for a few years in the 60's.
If Sony made it, it would have started making them in the 60s, but never gave up on it until well into the 80s, even though they only sold 500.
and after cd was created sony wanted philips to pay licensing fee for the videogames, philips denied it so they dropped philips out of playstation project for good...
By 1964, Norelco made the very first cassette recorder in the US known as the Carry-Corder 150, and became more popular until Sony stepped in and made cassette recorders by 1966. On the other hand, Mercury Records made a similar cassette recorder like Norelco with the Mercury name which was more familiar with the record label.
The darkest timeline...
@@YGroadcapitain No. In that timeline Philips CD-i was a great console, and Playstation was next Nintendo console (very bad)
TH-cams "content match" thing really gets under my skin. I once uploaded a vlog of a drive around town, and a year later, the video was claimed. My heinous crime: The FM radio in the car was on at low volume. So even with the engine noise, the wind noise, and my dialogue, over the faintly audible, barely intelligible music, They claimed my video.. I took my video down.
Edit for typo..
Cammi Rosanov Same here. I had a driving video and knew this could happen so I kept a talk radio station on and would turn the volume down. It caught a few seconds of the host’s intro music and took off monetization. This copyright crap has to stop. Fair use and incidental playing of a few seconds doesn’t hurt anyone.
@@MyDailyUpload For sure! I fought the strike initially, getting rather blunt in saying "How in the actual f--k is anyone going to pirate a song when it is practically obliterated with wind and engine noise? Is Guns & Roses and Google THAT gawd--n broke that you all need to outright HARRASS the users of this platform?"
I had no intentions of monetizing the video (or any video I upload) and yet they still were determined to claim my face, my car, my voice, my time, my hometown, my driving, etc. all for some brief seconds of garbled audio over a publicly aired FM radio station. I took the video down and activated an adblocker. (only disabling it for a few of the channels I sub to)
Gawd! I wish Zippcast had lived and Louis Gualtierei (ZC's president) wasn't such a temper-tantrum throwing, man-child to shut it down in an epic rage-quit.
It will never stop. The companies need their pockets to be filled more and more
ditto
i had to do that too. I unlisted my video for the same reason.
Sony, the king of proprietary formats that are encumbered by high fees didn't want to pay licensing. No kidding.
Then they don't support after they obsolete, that's why Sony has been fired from my houshold.
Nearly all formats are proprietary. VHS was proprietary. CD is proprietary Sony/Philips. Betacam/DigiBeta/HDCAM is proprietary (and so Sony made more money from Beta than anyone ever did from VHS).
video99.co.uk You don’t get it, Sony practically changed its identity every time they release a new medium. There’s so many obscure formats they’ve created just to leech off a few extra bucks over the common ones.
@@video99couk JVC made VHS an open standard specifically to fight the proprietary Beta format. Sony's long history of adhering to it's own closed formats at the expense of open standards is why they are now a shadow of what they once were in the CE space. There was a time that I used to buy Sony almost exclusively. I haven't bought a Sony product in nearly two decades.
@@consciouscool Did you know the last PS2 game came out in 2013, 13 years after the PS2 was launched?
I just love the puppet show at the end.
At least now he doesn't do that warning of silly muppets ahead and a countdown warning. As if seeing it would make people's monocle explode. :P
Its creepy in many ways...
@@dragonskunkstudio7582 He had to create that warning, because so many people complained about the sketches.
@@espurious Oh boo hoo to those complainers.
How did ighea see this 4 days ago? It was just put up today.
*Pronunciations*
Baka Kafka
"Wisse" is pronounced with the 'i' from 'it' and an 'e' at the end from 'one'
Jochem Bonarius
By the way, Wisse is pronounced wis-eh. (Wis like wizz, but with an s sound)
Jasper Janssen
Wisse, pronounce as in Whistle but without the l.
René Didden
Mr. Dekkers name is pronounced as the word "whistle" but without the 'l' sound between the s and the 'e'
EDIT: And his surname is 'Dekker' rather than 'Decker'
Hairy Weasel
15:18 Wis-SUH Decker, with a short i like in 'with'.
Yoshibro26
It's teldec, not teledec
KooriShukuen
But nobody pointing out it's Ohga, not Ogha? Huh.
Joran
Wisse is pronounced Wis-eh, if that makes sense.
Dan Data
Think it was Teldec not Teledec :)
Daniel Smedegaard Buus
The mispronounciation of "the" is becoming more prevalent on this channel. Not worthy of an unsubscribe, but definitely annoying and strange.
Bertje Be27
Mr Deckers name is pronounced: wis (as in WISdom) sè (as in SEntence)
Neil Forbes
And it wasn't "Tele-Dec" it was "Teldec".
nematube
I believe the Dutch pronunciation of the name resembles the German. In IPA: Wisse [ ˈvɪsə ]. Not: [ ˈwaɪ̯si ]. So, the "W" is like the English "v", the "i" is like in "it", the "e" is like in "one" when the "e" is extra emphasized. :)
Maico
The i in Wisse is pronounced as in Fish
Ni5ei
Wisse is pronounced Whissuh (the u being pronounced like in "under")
Tom F
loch in german is pronounced lorr. Great video.
greggv8
There's only two E's in TELDEC.
Clive Pearsall
Is it not' Teldec' (tell-deck), as opposed to Teledec (Telly-deck)?
Wilfred Swinkels
Wisse Decker sounds like wis uh Decker :-)
Kyle Eames
It’s not ogre, it’s Ōga. 大河
Lorin Petitpierre
tiny detail : Einloch, should be pronounced EinloRRR (Ein Loch in German means One Hole)... :D
Christopher Noel
Techmoan: Are you agreeing with Yoshibro26, or disagreeing? You've both written the exact same thing including spelling (capitals aside) "It's teldec, not teledec"
I personally heard you pronounce it 'teledec', but I wasn't going to say anything since I knew nothing about the topic.
...
I guessed.
Where the extra 'e' was coming from, I don't know, but it was definitely pronounced several times in the audio despite it clearly being spelled 'Teldec'. My point was that Yoshibro26 and Techmoan wrote the exact same thing. I even checked Yoshibro26 's comment to see if it had been edited.
ndrew_koala
@Techmoan
03:56 You are INCORRECTLY saying TELEDEC when it is TELDEC .. Take a closer look.
And also it is 0 ZERO NOT O - EVEN THE SHAPE of the character IS NOT IDENTICAL.
One is a letter and the other is a numeral.
You have been successfully brainwashed by people who only knew O from the days
when the zero did not exist on type writers ---
This is how easily you and most other people are very easily mentally manipulated.
Besides all of that I studied Electronics and Electro-Mechanical Engineering in the
mid 1960's until December 1969 whilst with PHILIPS.
In 1970 I enlisted in the Military, where I served for 18 years.
It is critical, and I know as a licensed Pilot since age 16 and a Licensed Radio Operator
that it is critical to know differentiate between Letters and Numbers when dealing with
Alpha-Numeric sequences.
Otherwise serious communication errors are inevitable.
It is not difficult to get it right after brain adjustment getting over the indoctrination
you received by ignorant teachers.
Other that that your presentation is quite good, with good cadence.
Andrew_koala
@nematube
You are 100% correct. So everyone TAKE NOTE.
Reply
Andrew_koala
@Stp666
I pointed this out this error in pronunciation in a comment above, before I arrived at your comment.
The Rolling Troll
(Wisse as in 'piss', with the 'eh' behind it like you did.
Fun fact: "wissen", pretty much pronounced the same, means "to erase".
So there you go. Even his name was magnetic).
Pk Jess20
Also wouldn't he be Mr. Norio?
But nobody pointing out it's Ohga, not Ogha? Huh.
@@Ice_Karma What's the difference?
I'm afraid you've been pronouncing Techmoan wrong as well. I'm pretty sure it's "Teach - Moe - Anne"
I believe the Dutch pronunciation of the name resembles the German. In IPA: Wisse [ ˈvɪsə ]. Not: [ ˈwaɪ̯si ]. So, the "W" is like the English "v", the "i" is like in "it", the "e" is like in "one" when the "e" is extra emphasized. :)
*Techmoan:* Are you agreeing with *Yoshibro26,* or disagreeing? You've both written the exact same thing including spelling (capitals aside) _"It's teldec, not teledec"_
I personally heard you pronounce it 'teledec', but I wasn't going to say anything since I knew nothing about the topic.
An interesting addendum to the topic:
In Hungary at the time when the introduction of the cassette was impending, a factory of open reel tape recorders (named BRG, Radio- technology Factory of Budapest) thought that a combo device would help the public's switchover from open reels to cassettes. So they developed the device, the M11. But at the start of development it was not sure, which of the rival formats would be the winner: DC International or the Philips Compact Cassette. So, the prototype was developed for the Grundig standard! They already shown it, there were promo material issued which included this model, but then the chief engineer learned at a conference that Philips will start a partnership with Sony so he thought this will be the future format, and decided to change the design to include the Compact Cassette format - and this is how at the end the machine was mass produced. I found only a low quality drawing at Radiomuseum where the prototype is shown, but I remember as a child I've read this story in some books about tape recorders history.
Here's a link to the device at radiomuseum:
www.radiomuseum.org/r/budapesti_m11m_1.html
on one of the small pictures there is the prototype's drawing which clearly shows the DC cassette (and even mentioned in the caption)
Interesting, thanks!
>credits start to roll
wait? There's 5 minutes left? His credits aren't that long?
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?! :D
PUPPET TIMEEEEEEEEE
Last summer, completely by chance, I had a chat with a fella selling an Elcaset deck at a flea market and he mentioned that Grundig had their own cassette system back in the day, so I've been waiting for you to get around to covering that :D
You bought the Elcaset deck, right?
Imagine that weird parallel universe were everybody used DC cassettes and Video2000, grandpa is arguing that his Tefifion is still superior and junior listens to music on his new Gmini 400.
I think you'll find that it'd be the hipster older brother with his tefifon 180 gram ribbon arguing for superior sound.
In an infinite Universe, that is reality.
@C De V
"Multiverse" can CERN show us this?
OMG THE PUPPETS ARE BACK!!!! I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
Me too!
I am afraid we are going to have to demonetize you at 22:36 for using a sound sample of Windows XP you clearly do not have ownership of.
WOW you started your channel 8 years ago just for this random moment...mind blown
Windows 3.1 though
says the man that has "This copy of Windows is not genuine" in the corner :)
LimaVictor It’s a version of the tune used in Windows XP. The joke stands!
@@rusefoxghost: I had Windows 3.11, and the .wav doesn't sound any different to me. It would take graphical demonstration to observe.
"Yoko, you are not taking my chippy tea" 💀
It was “Ono Yoko you are not taking my chippy tea”. - but I don’t think many spotted the Ono.
@@Techmoan Hilarious either way
Maybe the the Fuckin Lesion's "Ono" had been muted for copyright reasons. Every chippy tea should be accompanied with a fanfare!
@@timmatthews773 no,i dont see who owns Ono so its techmoan who owns it
Also chippy Tea is not a offense chippy
Tea means tea of chips
@@josecarlossilva6574 Thanks for explaining what a chippy tea is, but who said it's an offense...?
Interestingly that Rolling Stones cassette is indeed their first album (self-titled "The Rolling Stones), but with additional two songs, that were released only as singles and not on the actual album.
I got confused with the Rolling Stones album. I thought the track listings were making a sentence: "I just wanna make love to you, honest I do, Mona, now I've got a witness"!
Fish n Chips: The REAL happy ending.
Not with gravy on it!!!!!!! Mushy peas or nowt.
I thought it was HP sauce! Northerners are a funny lot
@@Tmuk2 I'm a Northerner and I've never seen fish and gravy together. That's some kind of blasphemy right there.
Well, until they content match the *DUN DUN* from Law and Order / SVU
DC International sounds like a late 80s/early 90s soul/dance band.
or you know, a comic company.
It's a bit of an odd name for an audio medium.
Beats International?
It's a bit of an odd name for a comic company for that matter. DC Comics stands for "Detective Comics Comics"!
Mat is auditioning for a job doing the weather forecast. Shame they don't have the magnetic clouds any more.
Haha, the ones that used to slide down the weather map on their own!
Either that, or Pablo Picasso is painting from a bicycle.
I enjoyed the end with the copyright issue you're having with 11sec of song. I'm hearing a lot about these issues channels are having with TH-cam. Carry on Techmoan. I enjoy your channel and recommend to people often.
PCC and DCI, easy, even if they sound like ranks in the police force... :P
And careful, Microsoft may claim copyright on the Windows98 Tada.wav... :P
Thats not Windows 98, its the Law and Order DUN DUN :)
22:35 - Fish & Chips, Tada.wav... :P
@@twocvbloke Apologies, I missed that one! My bad :)
PCC is a large brazilian criminal organization.
I reckon DC and Phillips.
It makes me think of the S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) connection.
I never knew it stood for that - thanks, I love to learn something every day.
Toshiba link
The S/PDIF was an remains one of many good PHILIPS / SONY collaborations
I studied E. Engineering with PHILIPS, it was a very good Company to be a
part of.
A company with innovative ideas and European thinking.
Certainly they had failures like any other company. Each failure brings improvements.
Had the British been as smart to work in collaboration with Japan in the Motor
Vehicle industry, it would now be a world leader, but the British are inherently arrogant
and envious of others successes, (even though Many a great invention originated in
Britain ... ) Their success was copied by others who often improved on the design.
The great lesson is that Knowledge MUST be shared.
Time goes by so quickly I was born in late 70s growing up in 80s and 90s cassettes where best thing ever for yours play list those times where more magical!Nowadays can you even buy a CD???? It's nothing special today when you can get everything online, don't get me wrong it's super but at the same time all magic is gone 😢
You have perfectly right, man, these days we can have everything so easy, but the magic is gone, no charm at all. In the 90's, every casette tape i buy was preciuos to my collection!
I am the same age remember just Popping in to woollys or tower records and gawp at the top ten , simple times .
I shop around for OLD CDs, ones from the 80s and early 90s, before they started boosting the volume levels to maximum and ruining the dynamic range on the re-releases.
New music I just get from iTunes or from the download card that sometimes comes with a brand new vinyl record.
I guess I’m one of the reasons Best Buy stopped stocking CDs in their stores.
All the major Supermarkets in the UK still sell CDs. However, they are getting cheaper and cheaper with "Best of" CDs from the likes of Dolly Parton for £3 (the price of an upmarket coffee) and 5CD 100 track compilations for about £6.
You can still buy CD's of course, but unless it's some fancy digibook edition, it doesn't really feel special anymore. That's why music lovers brought back vinyls from the dead, that's still something special to hold in a collection.
Hey Matt. Thank you again for making the public discover another totally unknown format. And I also like your conclusion : closed licenced formats are made to die and the history is full of them. Compact Cassette free licenced with Sony : huge success. VHS Licenced by JVC to other makers : big success. CD shared between Philips and Sony : huge success. Closed formats like Betamax, V2000, DC International : failures.
That's how capitalism works, I'll scratch your back so you'll scratch mine.
Utter rubbish. VHS and Beta had exactly the same licensing model. Sanyo made Beta machines in vast numbers, the Sanyo VTC5000 was the number 1 selling video recorder in the UK at one point, outselling every VHS model, and was followed by the hugely successful VTC5150. Toshiba also built Beta machines, and there were badge engineered recorders from NEC, Aiwa and others. The same applied to Sony's Video8/Hi8 format which slaughtered the VHSC format in the camcorder market.
@@video99couk Never met a Betamax outside Sony. Never met a V2000 outside Philips/Gründig.
@@video99couk Never understood why anyone bought that Sanyo betamax. The picture was awful.
@@MrsZambezi I sort of understand what you are saying. Later Sony Beta machines in particular, did produce nicer pictures. But had a Sanyo VTC5150 and a JVC VHS portable back in 1984, and anyone could see the Sanyo Beta gave the better picture. Sanyo machines were possibly more inclined to show tape dropouts. However I find that if I have a really badly worn Beta tape, a Sanyo will sometimes give a better overall picture than a Sony. Picture quality varies between tapes and machines, as it does with VHS, where some tapes play better on a JVC, others better on a Panasonic.
loved the analogue powerpoint presentation :D
I think the reason Grundig logo was crossed out and replaced with Telefunken is that they had a Grundig compact cassette player in another room or something. So it's a Grundig tape, but not for Grundig machine. My great-grandmother's vinyl and shellac records were all labeled by hand with respective gramophone/turntable brands (by my father, presumably), so she wouldn't mix them up.
Was watching a documentary on Concord... Saw Techmoan has new audio format video..... Easiest choice I've ever made 😂
And I was just on an SR-71 and X-15 video binge. Much harder decision there ;)
@@DavidLee-df888 when I went back to watch the documentary of Concorde it actually had a nice little bit re the spelling 😉. I never thought about it until I watched the rest of it... Then read your comment 😎
laughed at the puppet show... Phabulous >_
2:20 wow, that was an impressive presentation.
At first I thought "is he gonna green screen that board and add stuff on it digitally?"
But nah, our dude is using practical effects instead of CGI! :D
Also, he diddn't succumb to the lure of making the fish and chips CGI.
The way TH-cam handles copyright disputes is terrible. I've had similar issues.
Man those Fish in Chips look delicious.
Indeed... I'm hungry now. Hmm, but not many good places to get fish and chips where I live. I suppose I can try Captain Dee's? I haven't ate there in about a decade.
You need big chips or small fishes to make "fish in chips" :D
the dry erase board bit needs intertwining yarn between the formats and companies
you know, for simplicity's sake...
Once you started playing Take Five at 8:30, I immediately thought of The Secret Life of Machines. I would love to see you and Tim Hunkin in a video together. BTW I’m from the United States. I loved watching that show.
I thought the exact same thing! I have the whole series downloaded.
I should point out that Tim is very much around on youtube: th-cam.com/video/Nr4fdXtRJXQ/w-d-xo.html
Yes - It was not until the high bias tape was developed that the fidelity of cassettes was good enough for them to be marketed as music format recorders.
Somehow "Grundig DC System International Time with Fran" doesn't have quite the same ring to it...
#o)
Hope the lab build is going well.
;o)
I prefer the Marvel International cassette.
The Harvey International cassettes were a joke.
There was a later Dark Horse entry though...
No love for the Cassette 2000AD?
That "Take Five" sounded pretty good on the machine.
I think it only really works as a track being played on retro machinery.
Define "good". It was playing slow with quite a bit of wow and flutter. But besides that.....
Instantly made me think of "The Secret Life of Machines". Although that show's theme was a cover version called "The Russians Are Coming".
@@johnstone7697 Well it isn't a hifi really.
Copper screws? I need that.
It's hilariously ironic that compact cassette - the format that would become associated with copying and recording off the radio - was itself copied!
The Rolling Stones' title is in German. They pronounce 'ph' as 'f'.
Not really - it is a mix of German and English. The German word would be "phantastisch" but they wrote "phantastic". I think it is just English translated in a hurry by a German.
@@EoinJones Very likely, I agree.
Eoin Jones no the german word would be "fantastischen"
"ph" is pronounced as "f" in English too
Great band name: Thieving Dead Beatles
Yay! Chips, Fish and Gravy!
That was cruel for us expats who can't just nip out and get Fish & Chips with gravy :-(
@Monty Python the Flying Circus I can and do, and thick-cut fries. It's not the same though. My yearly trip back home to the UK keeps me sane though.
@Monty Python the Flying Circus Never ever curry sauce with fish and chips! Mushy peas are my go to option, but good to see fish, chips and gravy - a proper northern thing!
When we used to go down to the amusements on the sea front, we'd only have enough for chips and gravy. Fish was a luxury.
Vee Macks as an immigrant like you, I just make my own.
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS Mr Techmoan :-) 10/10!
Oh no, Dad's broken out the whiteboard again.
I'll have you know in 1995 my high school converted from chalk boards to White boards and it was a big deal!
I think Grundig's decision was about tape speed.
There must have been research that made 2 Inch/Sec the minimum required for the frequency response necessary for music, given the magnetic tape and head technology available at the time. Philips was initially not able to reach the fidelity and playback time necessary for music, inside the Compact Cassette.
I suspect that if thinner tape technology had been available, Philips would have settled on a higher tape speed from the onset.
Improvements in both the magnetic density on the tape itself as well as more effective heads lead to the Compact Cassette becoming suitable for music playback and recording, negating the necessity for higher tape speed.
Two inches per second is 6% faster than 1-7/8 inches per second. Not a lot of extra information in that 1/8".
The way the Einloch-Kassette works is exactly the way an LTO data tape works today. I guess that they use this design for LTO. Lol shame LTO is so expensive for home users.
It's for enterprise data backup, anyway.
That end tho :D
Its funny how this video switches finally to philosophy.
How a small, concidered unimportant thing/format changed the things to come.
Thank you very much for letting me think about that!
Grundig equipment looks so stylish, at least the radios and players I've been able to see.
Yes but the quality is rather meh, the metal parts inside are almost always corroded.
The "Take Five" you played as a demonstration was playing too slowly. Was it just the tape stretched due to age or the device running slow?
That’s why my Grundig TK 247 reel-to-reel tape recorder was running a tad slow due to the AC motor which was German made. Many of these German Grundig machines was running slow. It has an international voltage setting, but here in the US, the voltage is set at 110V 60Hz, in other countries, it runs at 50Hz.
You have one of the best channels on all of TH-cam in my opinion. Google has a near monopoly and yet they hassle you about 11 seconds of music. Damned fools. Keep up the great work!
DC International sounds like a Eurovision entry
Another great bit of historical knowledge!
Single-reel tape cartridges have had a long and successful existence for computer data backup. The DLT and LTO tape standards have spanned at least a 25 year period.
Now, can you find an obscure digital audio format based on these? :)
As listening to this video I am actually sitting exactly in the old phillips facility in austria.
This cross-licensing agreement between Sony and Philips paved the way for their later collaboration on another pivotal audio format - the Compact Disc. Both Sony and Philips had begun developing digital disc formats in the '70s, and both had encountered difficulties. When they pooled their resources, they were quickly able to overcome those issues well before any potential rival formats got out of the lab.
Gravy on fish and chips lad! Thumbs down, unsubbed etc. ;)
Seems to be truly a British thing!
Myself, I prefer mayonnaise (almost the same as tartar-sauce)!
@@MrWombatty Chips with gravy is a very northern England thing (where I'm from actually and it's very nice), but I prefer salt, vinegar and tomato sauce on fish 'n chips. Fish and gravy though... 'shudder' .
Fish n chips with gravy and a load of vinegar. Absolutely delicious!
I thought it was brown sauce - that’s OK but not gravy. These things are important
@@andrewmckay9555 Chips with gravy: yes.
Fish with gravy: BLASPHEMY!!!
I love this channel so much and I woke up early and found this .
Awesome cassette alternative
As i heard from my father a few times until the (late?) 60's here in the Netherlands there where area's that still had 110v (or 125v) in stead of 220/230v. I think it's plausable that the multivoltage from this device is not only for use in the USA but also in that time to use in other country's with different voltage.
Same situation was all over the Europe, I have somewhere transformer rated for 110V,125V, 130V, 220V, 240V on grid side.
As well I have heard about place where they had 220V from between phases.
Gravy on your chips is indicative of just how Northern you are. Also the battered sausage commentary was perfect!
hello techmoan, long time sub, you have saved me from boredom a dozen times. youre my favorite youtuber , such a wonderful guy you. thanks for all the company over the years and looking forward to more
I enjoyed this video very much, because I am a great fan of compact cassette. I was there when they first came out, and I owned one of the first Japanese model cassette recorders, the Aiwa TP707.
But for me, as great as the video is, it is the puppets who had an excellent point (leave it to puppets to get it right). Bravo, Puppets!
TH-cam Content ID really is a problem. It is ironic that TH-cam will go after any content provider in the name of anyone making any dubious claim about content. There are copyright trolls who claim ownership of public domain music, and TH-cam does NOTHING to stop them, instead they attack content providers! We all know the horror stories.
I realize that TH-cam is a private organization and this isn't about free speech or any of that.
But it IS about treating people - who make the bread and butter for TH-cam -- badly.
I think this is why so many TH-cam contributors are going for Patreon. The support they garner is beyond TH-cam's control, and YT can't get any of that action - not that they don't try with their own version of "sponsorship".
Still it is a pity that TH-cam behaves so badly in this regard.
TH-cam DOES provide a wonderful service for the viewer. But WHY do it at the cost of the content provider.
Maybe it's the threat of lawsuits?
What if TH-cam content providers formed a class action suit as well as the music and film companies? TH-cam would scramble to avoid THAT scenario. They understandably don't want to get sued. It must be a nightmare for them.
But, running a business on fear isn't the smartest business plan, is it?
SMH!
Another fun story, recalled by Lou Ottens who was instrumental in the development of the Compact Cassette: When Philips initially showed off the CC to Sony, Ogha had his amplifier cranked all the way up and when they went on to play the tape for a demonstration, the hiss pretty much filled the room, to Philips' dismay, fearing that that had left a bad impression!
The amount of obscure formats that came out just because some companies acted like spoiled childs not wanting to share or doing team work is absurd, but at least they help make awesome Techmoan videos.
P.D: TH-cam Copyright is getting ridiculous.
Good you got your fish and chips !
TH-cam content policy is a sad capitalist joke
Thank God that the ghost of Lenin got his monies, the Soviet people need that sandwich after what he did to their country.
Awesome Comrade
At 00:42 you wrote "Apparently the "DC" in 'DC International stands for "Double Cassette. The 'International' was to make it sound like *an* Worldwide standard."
Great timing, was just thinking that I had nothing interesting to watch today!
The lesson is, threatening to go with a competitor is a good way to get a good deal. So rather than simply leaving the EU, Britain needs to create its own version of the EU and sign the rest of Europe up to it, or at least say they will if their relationship with the EU is unsatisfactory.
Everytime belgium is mentioned in any youtube video, it put a smile on my face
@@imansfield Belgium is not real
The Stones Mono songs are 'fantastic', their best work.
I was given a small Phillips machine just like your small one, in about 1966, I used to record music off Radio Luxemburg.
I said it before and I'll say it again: THAT INTRO!
As always your videos inspire a web search. Apparently Norio Ogha was asked by Sony co-founder Masaru Ibuka to design a portable stereo cassette player for travel purposes. This would eventually go on sale in 79 as the Sony Walkman. Would the Walkman have been as successful with the oversized DC International Cassette? Great video once again. Enjoyed the extra content at the end as well.
I'm Grundig and I have the power to change* the market with my own format
I'm Sony and I have the power to change* the market with my own format
I'm [Write here your favourite big big big company] and I have the power to change* the market with my own format
*Change = monopolise
@@LordPrecision How audiophile and iOs user I must say: I hate you
Mr Troll: you make honor to your name. Take your money and get out here :)
Good example of why copyrights should ONLY exist while the artist is alive AND only for a limited period (5-10 years). This forever copyrighted idea is completely nuts!
Dead people don't make new works. Even John.
DC, the mirror universe version of CD.
You wondered that if the DC International had been successful what would we have called them and cassettes respectively... I imagine they would have probably been called DC(I) and CC for short, though that's just a Finnish young mans thoughts on it, but i really feel like they would make sense...
I imagine a conversation in the alternate world where DCI was successful would go something like this:
"So, the Rolling Stones new album came out LP, DC and CC and i got the LP. Wanna come over and listen?"
"No thanks, i bought the DC album and have been listening to it in my car, and i have to say, i'm not liking it as much as the last album..."
But yeah, i feel like DC and CC or maybe DCI and CC for the sake of clarity could have been viable shortenings of the names...
That‘s the dilemma of the 21. century. Destroy the industry to protect the environment, destroy the internet to protect the content creators.
Flippin‘ eck, do I feel protected.
Anyway, marvelous job as usual, Mat!
Was so happy to see the puppets - sorry to see it was such a "real" subject this time. I've been creating TH-cam videos for about a year, so far no issues but I live in fear of this all the time. Totally bullshit they can take ALL revenue when, as you said, 99.8% of the video had NOTHING to do with that song. Glad you were able to "fix" it by working around the system.
and sometimes they claim audio that isn't even theirs.
Oy blin, I haven't been THIS early!!
Your reward for being up early or staying up really late :3
@@SnowBunneh Nah, I'm in the Philippines, so I received the notification at about 4 or five in the afternoon.
@@andriealinsangao613 That also works.
:D
@@SnowBunneh Yep!
Philips and Sony relation is a weird one... throw Nintendo in there... we get the Super Nintendo add-on the Playstation and the Philips CD-i. Both were working with Nintendo for a CD Add-on but like before, Sony wanted almost all sales of Disc. Nintendo backed out, Philips made the CD-I after canceling the Add-on (internally made some horrible Zelda games), and we got a Sony Playstation, which is still a thing ;)
Since the FF doesnt lock when pressed, it could indicate that you can FF while the PLAY button is down.
I know this is an old thread, but I think it might be theoretically possible to 3D print the cassette shells and I think (speculation) that either a conventional HQ 60 min tape stock would work. OR, there is a cassette stock that might be better.
That stock is the Coleco Adam High Speed tape cassettes. Note: They were designed for much higher speeds due to them being the primary storage system for the Adam. Also it is essentially audio tape.
So, with a higher quality Adam Cassette tape donor for the stock and a 3D printed Grundig Cassette shell, it's possible to create blank tapes for this system.
That might give Techmoan the additional tapes for the player. Now admittedly it's a bit complex due to the 3D printing, but the tape stock, the little pads, and some fine tuning should yield a decent repro.
I love chips and gravy. I love fish and chips. But fish, chips and GRAVY. Surely tartae sauce in that combo!
You must be from the south, us northerners have gravy with everything
@@Roblilley999 Australia ;) I'm used to tomato sauce with chips, chips and gravy, chicken and chips and gravy, fish and chips and vinegar, fish and chips and tartae.. but gravy with fish? Nah haha
Ironically, all of the German brands (Blaupunkt, Grundig and Telefunken) all became the complete property of Philips.
"Wisse" is pronounced with the 'i' from 'it' and an 'e' at the end from 'one'
It's interesting how, as consumers, most of the time monopolies are bad for us and we like choice, but sometimes they're exactly what we want, as in most format wars where competitors fall away leaving one clear winner. Although there's plenty of choice of audio file types (wav, flac, mp3, aac, mqa, etc). Convenience probably has something to do with it.
16:38 Wait, Sony and Philips? Didn't they end up creating a massively-popular videogame console together?
I think the DC International actually has the better recording protection in some regards. For pre-recorded titles, you could manufacture a tape without any holes at all. That would keep people from overwriting pre-recorded tapes unless you physically drilled the holes.
Of course, for blank tapes, you still have the problems mentioned if you want to record protect it.
There was small, family run limonade factory in Poland named John Lemon. Guess what happened to them?
8:24 Sounds like something from the Brit show " The Secret Life of Machines " ( A really great program I might add be sure to look it up )
I loved Secret Life of Machines. And the bit you heard in this video is Dave Brubeck's 'Take Five'.
PHILIPS still exists? here in Brazil it went bankrupt a long time ago, such a big company went bankrupt, regrettable
TH-cam's copy protection content matching system is a joke. About half of the channels I watch have been hit by this in the last 3 months for some ridiculous reason or other.
Japanese companies seem to love to do this. They start two branches in two different countries. Tell neither of them that the other exists. Force them to figure out something new. One that has a hit. Well, they survive and go on to making lots of money for the parent company. Or if you have the flip side. You had companies like Sega who opened a Branch in the US. Yet there was this rivalry of some sort between the two for whatever reason. Instead of agreeing on some new product. They end up making two separate products and end up causing the company to nearly go bankrupt. All because the Parent Company did not like what their child company's ideas....even though they knew the market.
Now I know other markets out there do this. It is not some Japanese thing. So do not get all uptight. Just two examples I noted.
Thanks for pointing out that the compact cassette was developed in Belgium and not in the Netherlands.
Grundig made excellent speakers.. small wooden ones but damn they were heavy for 8 inchers
Imagine all the formats living in peace, you might say I'm a dreamer...,...
i feel ya on the copyright crap that youtube has been pulling for years now. its really bad when its claimed on classical music that has been played by virtually every orchestra but for some reason one thinks that its from their particular performance. or i had a case where a song from an old video game was matched to the first 30 seconds of a brazilian metal band's song who literally just copied that song for the beginning of one of theirs.
I'm all for artists getting paid, but to take all the money for a few seconds of audio is outrageous.