Counterpoint in a Partimento Fugue by N. Zingarelli

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  • @MusicaAngela
    @MusicaAngela ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how this sounds great, even without sequences. 😊

  • @lesliesanford1113
    @lesliesanford1113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:34 It's fascinating that it doesn't contain any sequences. Thanks for pointing that out. It seems to work just as well without them.

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, I'd say that this is a very positive aspect about it. No need for filling materials

    • @AlvaroALorite
      @AlvaroALorite ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it becomes a bit repetitive.

  • @AlessandroSistiMusic
    @AlessandroSistiMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an awesome find! Tranposing this seems like it'd be a great way to practice contrapuntal cadence patterns :)

  • @Geopholus
    @Geopholus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this fugue !

  • @MusicaAngela
    @MusicaAngela ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Realization starts at 3:20. (I’ve been playing it back at half speed to compare my realization) You would have been Zingarelli’s model student!

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The queeeeestion is: did you go for the 9th? 😂😂
      I more and more realize that there seemed to be two general teaching approaches in the Partimento era: 1) rather contrapuntal/strict (like e.g. Sala or Zingarelli) and 2) rather playful/keyboard orientated (Durante)… I read quite a bunch of times about that opposition but never was really able to fully grasp… There is really a difference in the structure of the Partmenti of those people…

    • @MusicaAngela
      @MusicaAngela ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@en-blanc-et-noir I love 9ths too but as of yet I'm not skilled enough to always know when I can slip one in. That's fascinating what you are discovering about the different approaches of those teachers. ❤️🎶

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The rivalty of the Neoplitan "schools" is actually a common place in Partimento research for quite some time (adressed by Sanguintetti and I guess by Peter van Tour) and I read about it several times but recently I started to really understand as I dove a little deeper into Peter van Tour's Sala edition in the last couple of months and recognized that Sala is enforcing contrapuntal thinking much more then e.g. the Fenaroli's. There's literally a contrapuntal "riddle" to solve in almost every Sala Partimento especially regarding invertible / double counterpoint - and I'm not even speaking about the fugues! I surely will do a video on Sala at some point as I find these some of the best Partimenti on the market.

    • @MusicaAngela
      @MusicaAngela ปีที่แล้ว

      @@en-blanc-et-noir i’m just looking at this again and read that you plan to make a video on Sala. Tomorrow (Saturday, October 21st) Peter Van Tour is doing a zoom class on his Sala editions. I’m going to attend. I wonder if you are?

  • @richardheath317
    @richardheath317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coooool 😎 beautiful realization 👍😊 are there more Zingarelli Fugue Partimenti?

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Rich, thanks! Yeah, that edition contains lots of Fugues and imitative pieces

    • @richardheath317
      @richardheath317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Könnten wir die im Unterricht durchgehen? 🎹😊

  • @selfreferentialhumor
    @selfreferentialhumor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is great! Are the other partimenti in the Zingarelli collection any good compared to Fenaroli?

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      is Fenaroli a good collection?
      Lol… yes: Zingarelli is very decent, especially the fugues are much better then the Fenarolis, because they are methodically more valuable, shorter, and several are teaching double counterpoint. My opinion on Fenaroli is that it is overhyped out of any proportion… Like in any other collection: some individual partimenti are very good, many of them aren‘t. Fenaroli‘s only advantage is that is was among the first ones being rediscovered, next to Furno and Durante… but that doesn‘t make it ‚the best‘ collection. sorry for the rant😂

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thanks for your praise🙏

    • @selfreferentialhumor
      @selfreferentialhumor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@en-blanc-et-noir That's exactly what I was thinking :) I don't like Fenaroli, hence why I'm shopping around. Zingarelli's two books are the largest collection after Fenaroli, and freely available on IMSLP. My favourites currently are the Stanislao Mattei ones, they're gorgeous.

  • @kaptnkirk2740
    @kaptnkirk2740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bitte ein H am Schluss... 😇
    Hast Du neulich meinen Vorschlag zu den Quartsextakkorden in der Romantik gelesen?

  • @davcaslop
    @davcaslop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    200th like!

  • @ormpi1
    @ormpi1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What audio equipment do you use?

    • @en-blanc-et-noir
      @en-blanc-et-noir  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I‘m using a Zoom H6 that in this video I put pretty close above the hammers and after that I put a little bit of reverb on the recording track in audacity😂 so: very basic stuff. Why are you asking?

  • @robertocornacchionialegre
    @robertocornacchionialegre ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, the seventh 🫢 I remained waiting the doppia hahah

  • @m.walther6434
    @m.walther6434 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zingarelli for free at IMSLP. Thankxalot for this interesting little Fuge cum explanations.

  • @Jilref
    @Jilref ปีที่แล้ว

    🤍🤍

  • @thelostartofcounterpoint8648
    @thelostartofcounterpoint8648 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool! What a joy to see young people so enthusiastic about counterpoint! As a musicologist and Bach lover I started a project about implied polyphony. Please check my channel and tell me what you think! Keep up the good work! ;-)