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- In India, hundreds of women in their 60s and 70s are defying age and having children.
Elderly couples are turning to in vitro fertilisation (IVF) to have babies and avoid the stigma associated with being childless in India.
India is now home to the oldest mothers in the world, and a fierce debate is raging over age limits for IVF.
101 East explores the ethics of this growing phenomenon of elderly new mothers and asks, how old is too old to give birth? Are doctors exploiting vulnerable women and misusing science, or fulfilling the right of every woman to bear a child?
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Mhm. What I find a bit "odd", the first woman said she didn't want to adopt because it wouldn't be her child. But wasn't her child conceived, yes in her body, but with someone else's eggs and a sperm donor?
Youth Upliftment I think she means a child she carried and bore herself
Like that doctor said that they wont tell to the patient that they wont use someone else´s eggs or sperm donors.
Not only that, she found the task at her age overbearing.
What will become of the orphaned child in a few short years?
Sadly people are acting on their emotions instead of their witt.
Yes but she carried it nourished it grew it inside her and gave birth to it
so what does it matter where the eggs came from?
And it was her husbands sperm that fertilized the egg
She gave birth to her husbands child
So your way of thinking
Is because the egg or sperm were donated
Means the baby is not
Theirs?
What about adoption ?those kids don't belong to the people who love and care for and have
Raised them either?
Wow I certainly hope you don't have any problems having children if and when you want any
The poor thing would
Be absolutely Nothing to you
@@anu83 they have to disclose that by law. They can't just insert someone else's sperm and eggs in you without your permission. I don't know where you got that in the documentary but he definitely did not say that. They are not allowed to do that not anywhere in the world
I have a feeling that culture and tradition are valued higher than the well-being of the child. That is wrong.
you are 100% correct!
Not that culture and tradition are valued but actualy poverty, once the father is no longer able to work, he would not be able to make money that is why kids are wanted .to grow up and take care of oldery parents
flightisallright As an Asian, I completely agree with you. It is not a sin to be child free, but having kids has been a tradition for millennia. It takes many generations for this mindset to change, especially in developing nations.
when the child turns 10,his parents are dead..the child will be send to an orphanage and he will suffer emotionally..its better if this old folks tried IVF when theyre 40's
shaly mp no if you watch the full documentary you will see she has considered that and has other family members that will look after the child when there gone
That 2 month old baby at the end - Iman - he's starving - his body is so thin and he is very very underweight
The money-grubbing IVF doctor probably doesn't do any screening of donors of sperm OR eggs so who knows what babies can be born with in his shoddy practice where women die.
Yes he is and isnt very active even at 2 months babies should be looking around more. My babies were little butterballs at 2 months
What's the difference between this and adopting? Genetically, it's still not your child.
Al-Ikram Chowdory No. If it's not her egg being used, then the baby isn't genetically related to her at all. We only receive our DNA from the egg and the sperm cell, no other source. Carrying the baby and giving birth do nothing to impact genetics. You should have learned that by 6th grade.
callalilly1988 In another documentary on the same story they said sperm was from the husband
The difference is that she got the chance to risk her life and ruin her body
@Glory Be To God Amen Hello fellow Christian. Instead of doing the equivalent of 'cold calling' to win souls, go and live your life in a way that has people asking you how you do it. Let your life be a testimony. Not random comments on TH-cam. Reach out to your actual neighbour. Befriend them. Don't preach at them. Just let them into your life. God is the one who does the miracle. Not us.
IVF isn't God's gift. It's man's. Menopause happens for a reason.
That baby boy has no fat in that body for his age. You can see the shape of his bones. Looking at babies like that is just heart breaking.
You are correct on that point. He won't be able to sustain life in that condition. Very sad.
Fr he looked pretty underweight. Unless he had something so that he looks really skinny but is otherwise healthy
donor egg and donor sperm? So that is NOT her biological child, she may have well just adopted, but I guess she wanted to carry it inside her...she probably doesn't understand or comprehend that this is not her or his biological child
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609blondebomb or the doctor is intelligent enough not to explain this fact..this is such a mean behaviour by doctors
This is totally wrong...This means when these babies will b 10 or in their teens their parents would b dead or not in position to fulfil their responsibility towards the baby.....
Did your translator put on an older woman sorta voice on purpose? What even?
They sold properties and took loan for IVF and they are old so how are they going to financially secure newborn future? The fact is, they would be dead by the time kid become teenager. This is just insane.
They should make this dr support all these children when their parents die. Let him clothe and feed them all. I’m sure if that was the case he wouldn’t be doing this. Greed is what keeps this dr doing what he does.
the 2 month old baby aarman, i pray someone will take care of him when his parents are no longer around. such a sweet baby boy
How did the couple afford ivf when they live in a hovel?
Honestly speaking you say you don't want to adopt a child because it doesn't feel like your own; even if you give birth to this baby, it has neither your or your husbands genetic makeup so you pretty much birthed someone elses baby and thus adopted it as your own.. just saying
Actually sperm was the husbands
The father looking like WTF have we done
Social issues aside, the physician first duty is DO NO HARM. And if the management has greater risks that outweigh the benefit, we should definitely not encourage it. There are clear evidences that elderly pregnant mothers has higher risks to herself and the child. Evidence-based medicine is the norm these days, not jungle medicine
pinksushi i agree the doctors should be held responsible
Moreover the parents likely will pass away before the kids are adults. Selfish to have kids this late. If they were 50 or even 60, at least the kid might be 20 + by the time they hit their 80s. But at 72 and 79 given India's life expectancy, the kid is likely to be below and an orphan
Oh goodness, that baby looks way to thin.
He looks underweight for a 4 months old baby, indeed.
AFRiCA I think this baby is not digesting milk he looks like he hAs lactose intolerance or dairy I tolerance ad did the father just give him bottled milk not formula ?
That child does not look healthy.
Is to late have a baby
Age 50 should be the limit!!!
That sounds kinda right, but no limit should be set.
Rose James why not?
ILhaam Oz i think 40....
50-55 with a family history of long and healthy lives. My mom got pregnant at 43 and lost it. She was sad then but when she had her first heart attack in her 50s and died at 63 we realized it was nature's way and a blessing. I would have raised them.
Maybe 45
The baby looks very underweight.. And will probably not remember his parents, as they will probably be gone before he turns 5..
IF he lives that long. He looks much too frail to live like that.
That she bleed nearly to death isn't related to age of COURSE it can be - immediately after birth, the uterus has to contract so the woman won't haemorraghe - it's pretty obvious that a 65 year old uterus won't be as strong a muscle as the uterus of a 30year old.
while i think that having a child later in life can be beneficial, having them too late is the exact opposite. with an average lifespan being around 86, i would be worried about the parents dying of old age before their child becomes an adult/independent.
I wonder what these kids will say when they are older.
It's wrong in all levels. Selfish, irresponsible , India is full of abandoned children, begging on the streets, abused and trafficked. Greedy doctor, senile parents, wtf!!!
so sad she donated eggs and she lost her life.
Christina Aquino .
The baby in the opening story LOOKS old. The baby looks old. Old parents, old baby. But god bless them.
I though so too. The poor baby looks old and sluggish like his old parents.
Hes malnourished
What would be wrong with adopting one of the thousands of homeless children? Many are infants.
ok, its started when people teased them. Because of People.
They throw the word "God" around quite a bit, don't they. If these people had any respect for God, they would have accepted and appreciated their lives just as they were.
Tmillchr Exactly. These children are conceived in a Petri dish. The science took God completely out of the equation. The rules of nature, or of God if that is your belief, are that a woman can't conceive a child once she's reached menopause. What they're doing has nothing to do with anything spiritual, though I doubt the doctors ever tell them the facts.
These people have no respect for natural. This is disgusting.
how is going to take care of the child after they are gone. .... crazy I would say .... will the relatives take care of this child !I seriously doubt ..... pray god bless this child .....
That doctor giving IVF to elderly women is irresponsible and greedy for money.
There are so many adoptable children in India!
Something is wrong there. The baby looks failure to thrive or the formula is very poor. Something is not right.
as long as there is a plan in place
to care for the child.should something happen to the parents.the parents are in reasonable good health.who are we to say whether they should or not.
It is painful not to have ur own baby. I feel that soultion have come up for problems. Life to fulfill the wishes ..It is perfectly ethnical for parents n child. Child can be orphan at any age..
how is going to take care of the child after they are gone. .... crazy I would say .... will the relatives take care of this child !I seriously doubt ..... pray god bless this child .....
Poor baby is too skinny.
God doesn't have anything to do with this
i have compassion on those dont have kids.
wow that baby is severely underweight!!!
selfish to have a child at that age.who will look after him when the parents are no longer there.
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Well spoken
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE! LEAVE THE FAMILIES ALONE!
its dangerous for the woman and child, when the mother is that old...if a woman has already gone trough menopause she shouldn't be having kids
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Are you a physician or reasearcher? I'm interested in learning the facts.
There are alot of risks but with God all things are possible.
That’s your opinion!
adoption would be so much easier for everyone involved.
Not really. For an older child, maybe, but most people don't want to deal with older children and the problems that they bring due to their troubled histories. Any younger child would be at the same risk that the donor-conceived children are: To be orphaned soon and be all alone if the parents don't have any relatives left to take them in. And for adopted children in particular, that would mean just another loss.
At some point, people should just suck it up and die with some semblance of dignity.
How is that even an option when these couples very visibly & obviously want their own babies??
this problem needs to get more attention. Doctors who perform this procedure stat it is to meet the demand but ultimately it is for the money. Also why are they so much against adoption? Having a baby this way is like adoption itself in terms of passing on you genetics! I think even for the donors who do not suffer death there are probable major health risk after being messed up so massively with their hormones! they do not track that, but they should!
It´s not right I think 47 should be border fo IVF. I am 43 and I enjoy being young grandma. I can read stories and do grandma things, just like computer and other modern thing with my young grandsons. I could still have a child of my own, bu honestly I feel old for having a baby of my own. Perhaps it is that I live in the industrial middle Europe, but I got myself a mini doggie and a cat and yeah a camera. I live full and nice life.
more competing doctors...put down competing doctors. a country overpopulating like crazy
Disgraceful, and the child will be orphaned sooner rather than later, with no siblings to raise him/her. What is fair or RIGHT about that!!! The dr that allows this at 72 should be struck off.
Young people who are not financially or mentally ready to have children do so all the time. Those children suffer so much during their childhood. These people are mature full of love and financially capable of bringing a beautiful soul into this world. These children are not going to suffer like those children who are born of the youngest womb. I say, if God allows them to bear a baby at that age. I will wish them nothing but peace and love to them and their family.
Lorri J God doesn't allow it. it's called menopause.
They will die after a few years then the child will live without them and would be sad
You mean like the suffering of your elderly parents dying in your childhood
They maybe even have grandparents cause they’re parents are already so old
I can totally see an Indian woman doing this, not any other race. Indian women the vegetarian ones are in such extremely good shape, not cosmetically but physically, they may have wrinkles and gray hair etc, but their stamina is unreal. Same with the men. I live in an area in Canada where its heavily populated by Indians, and the grandparents (grandmom too) in each household are the ones who do the pressure washing, snow plowing, gardening, rearing the children, etc. while the mother and father work and go shopping etc.
It's true many old indian people look very aged from working in the sun. Physically, they appear older than their age, but internally they are really fit. Able to remain active and never letting up on household work. It really is the condition of the skin, especially of rural villagers, that makes these mothers look a little shocking. My own grandmother looked in her 40s or younger until she was in her mid 70s. If for some reason she conceived through in vitro, she would look the part of a slightly older mother no problem. These ladies look very old but I can imagine they are robust.
This is awful I feel sorry for the ladies who donate eggs and die leaving their own babies orphans or motherless. If there wasn’t this demand those women could still be alive, the doctors don’t seem to care about these women after the donation of the eggs. PROBLEM: Poverty, Greedy doctors, Selfish OAPs and lack of education. So sad 😭God Bless All Who Are Suffering From These Issues (Orphan babies, poorer people getting poorer and otherwise healthy women dying from giving eggs for money) 😭
Also “ what do people know where the egg comes from?” Says elderly mum ..... Well the family who are missing a mother, wife, daughter, etc because the demand for eggs and babies caused them to make an uninformed decision resulting in their deaths. R.I.P.
That doctor dismissing these serious, dangerous problems in these elderly women is crazy! It's insane how these people allow their neighbor's comments to affect them so badly, that they are willing to carry babies at 70 years old. No one is thinking about the child who will have no parents at a young age. They're only thinking of themselves and idiotic comments from their neighbors. This was uploaded 6 years ago; I wonder if these kids still have parents. This is so selfish and ignorant.
What you have the right to do, and what is *right to do* are two different things.
This is not right. Nature agrees. That is why women have menopause.
Just my opinion - to me the kid doesn't look normal.
DoubleDogDare54 girls get periods at the age of 12, that means they should get pregnant?
Bishal Das
There is a difference between the word "should" and "can" - one means "must" the other means "possible".
A 12 year old girl *can* get pregnant - it is *possible* for her to get pregnant at 12, but it is not the best for her if she does.
On the other side a woman *cannot* get naturally pregnant after menopause - or, for that matter, immediately prior to menopause, while in peri-menopause. It is NOT natural for her to bear children after she stops cycling.
So, it is no more natural for an elderly woman past menopause to bear children via hormonal treatment and other unnatural interference than it would be for a 10 year old girl to bear a child if forced into menarche via hormonal treatment just to be able to impregnate her.
DoubleDogDare54 I know the difference between 'can' and 'should'. I may not speak english fluently but I understand.
second point even I think this is not a good idea, at this age they cannot take care for themselves. How can they raise a child
third point when a girl gets her menstruation , when her body signals her that she can get pregnant doesnt mean she should get pregnant. In the same way when a women's body signals her that she cannot get pregnant , menopause doesnt mean she should destroy her dream of having a child. if science is helping, why not?
DoubleDogDare54 there is nothing wrong if a women after menopause wants to have her own child.
but I agree not at the age of 80 or 70
>>> there is nothing wrong if a women after menopause wants to have her own child.>>>
The thing you have to keep in mind is that with virtually all these post-menopausal pregnancies, they are accomplished with donor eggs harvested from younger women. So the kids that result are *not* the biological children of the woman. And if the husband is not fertile either (sometimes the case) then donor sperm is used as well.
The result is a child that is not biologically related to the woman and/or the man who are then called the "parents" (?) of the resulting kid. So although the woman may physically give birth to such a child, it is no more related to her - "her own child" (?) - than a kid she would adopt or foster.
So the whole thing about "have her own child" is nothing but an expensive farce as these kids are not "hers" genetically at all.
These women are of an age if they want to mother something it should be grandchildren. If they don't have grandchildren, I am sure India is overrun with babies and little kids who need nurturing adults to care for them and provide them with a home. Take in those kids instead of what they are doing with these dangerous pregnancies in old age, which is unnatural and uncalled for.
That's why our country is over populated.
The doctor's shouldn't be aloud to impregnate any over 50 years of age.
He's sooo skinny and tiny
PettyFatty apparently at a year old (March 2017) he only weighed 15 lbs, so is still terribly underweight
She's very small.
God she's stuffing the bottle in his mouth.
Old couple haveing child at very late age remind me of Sara wife of Abraham from old testament (Bible)who had no child until very late time of their life and finally were gifted with a son!💓
Except Sara and Abraham's child was biologically, genetically their own offspring. These old people are using other people's eggs and sperms, therefore the children are never biologically related to them
I remember Bible Abraham,Sarah and Isaac born in age of 100 Gods gift.
that never happened, considering the bible is made up of stories and not real life events...
@@laurenmelissa6988 so ur real life also not real it's a story.
@@amir1987. lol I don’t understand your reasoning. The bible was written by men. My life is real, because I’m experiencing it... there is no proof the bibles stories are real. I choose not to believe in a book that tells me the world was made in 7 days.
Oh god..why to take so much deadly steps to deliver a baby at such an old age..idk when will people understand that Adopting a child is way righter than this process ..You adopt a child and he will love you back with alll loveee .. when will this meantality of having our own child will change.
Wow that is to old what are they going to do if they pass away then what is the baby going to do
_'fulfilling the right of every woman to bear a child?'_
since when it is a right for an infertile woman or a man? rather a luxury
Same right as those hundreds of women who have kids and discard them. Same as those parents who can’t even afford a kid but keeps popping out more & more making it a burden on the public & govt. No one asks them to stop!
that baby looks malnourished! or is it just me?!?!
Ouch can you imagine the first 2 as your Parents. They are way to old to be parents . The child will spend most of his life with no parents. I think that is so sad.
This is disgusting!!!!! SELFISH SELFISH people!!!
take bank loan.there r orphans in india
Isn't it height of selfishness?
"We don't see as much risk with the older ones" Honestly, take just one look at that baby boy- in what world can you say he's healthy?!? I mean he's beautiful, but there's just no way that was a full-term baby. And the girl's dad was saying she was 1 kilogram at birth- 2.2 lbs. And sure you can say, "Well at least they got a baby, it's okay if they're disproportionately likely to be premature" but prematurity is NOT something to play around with. It can lead to brain damage and all kinds of stuff, many of which involve pain or diminished quality of life, multiple surgeries, that kind of thing. A baby that is 2.2 lbs at birth is NOT a good outcome- you're putting a baby in harm's way. Having a baby and then by bad luck having it turn out to be born prematurely is one thing, but knowing the risks to the child before there is even a child to speak of, saying, "Yes, I will bear a child knowing that child will have a 99% chance of being premature" is quite another. Unethical because of the medical risks to the mother, but also unethical because of the medical risks to the child.
6:20 It's been a long time since I saw anything as soothing as a baby girls in a rural setup translating english into hindi for her old mother.
I'm shocked wow..I can't even imagine this..So many different circumstances of things that are available with $$$$
Does anyone know if there is a specific reason why all the girl children have short hair?
A Hindu boy has his first haircut in his first or third year of his life, while girls get their hair cut when she is 11 month old. Traditionally, this is the only haircut a girl gets. After that her hair is supposed to be not cut again. And generally only boys get their hair shaved off completely but nowadays some familys also do this ceremony for their girls instead of only cutting the hair.
Shaving the hair off means to get rid of your undesirable traits from your past lives and to signify your freedom from the past and being ready to move on into the future.
Besides religious and cultural reasons, people do also shave their children's heads in case of lice sometimes.
It's usually lice. And yes, it is very common to cut girls hair if the lice are very bad.
lina8316 wow interesting to know of similar customs. It is tradition to cut and preserve our hair at year 1; both girl and boy. It is representative of extra sensory perception which we gain after that age, an introduction into spirituality and flow of life. Cuts are forbidden after that unless in sickness or death.
i’m sorry but i just find it a bit comical when they’re like “well, my first wife didn’t give me any children so i’ll get a second wife. my second wife will give me children” and then the second wife doesn’t conceive either. so now it’s like, now you have two wives aka a whole other adult to provide for and your original problem wasn’t solved aka no baby.... 🤷🏾♀️
i think when a country has over a billion people where there are millions of people who are in poverty...drugs are a gigantic problem...there are huge slums in the cities...IVF should be the last thing on anyone's mind. If you are 55+ as new parents and you are afraid you might die soon from health complications due to the pregnancy or other causes, then it might not be a good idea to start a family...a woman's body goes through menopause for a reason, it is naturally unsafe for a 72 year old to carry and birth a baby. It is also not good for a baby to be born to old parents(besides health issues) because your parents might die and then you will never know them. If your parents hand you off to "god" then it is basically leaving it up to chance to see if he/she will live well. Even if your relatives might be able to take care of you, they could be a bad influence, they might not be able to afford to take care of you, etc. So many bad things happen when older women get pregnant. It is one thing to make yourself/your husband goes through this pain but it is completely another to put your baby through it; it is selfish. But at the end of the day, it is the government's fault, it always has been. They do not regulate these practices, they do not keep proper care of their citizens, they do not properly eliminate dowries or the caste system, they do not regulate pharmaceuticals...etc etc etc. India is a mess.
She never wanted to have another persons child, so she had another persons egg fertilized with not her husbands spermicide, and had it put in her body but then delivered it through C section. Makes sense.
So like... whether they wanna admit it or not, they’re going to be dead before this kid even hits high school. The doctors who agreed to this should have their licenses revoked because this is setting this kid up for a lot of grief and sorry at a very very young age. Did they ever stop to think that maybe there is a reason why our bodies stop being able to make children after a certain age?
If someone who’s is that old going in saying they want to have a baby. As a doctor you don’t stopped to think maybe there’s something wrong with their head? Our body is not a car you can’t just fixed it up and continue running on them. We have a limited time to become parents especially a females.
Doctors are not happy to help they are happy to gets anybody’s money even if they know it’s a high risks for the parents. Why would anyone wanted to have a child at that ages? Who’s going to take care of the child if you dies before the baby is old enough to take care of themselves?
I know this is 7 years old the research I have done on India when a female is born they have no value in India so when her husband passes away it will make her be a widow that is looked down on where do you think the baby's going to go and that age is not the right time to have a baby not in India hopefully the baby will be taken care of but the odds ain't very good I wonder where the baby is now.
I honestly do not think that the women are infertile. If the man took her sister as a second wife and they STILL had no children, speaks to the fact that HE may have a sperm issue. The man can take another wife but the women are stuck with an infertile man. If they are not getting pregnant, they both need to get tested and I am sure many of these women will not waste their fertile years and get treatment at a safer age with better results.
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The parents likely wont be around by the time the kid is a teenager and if they are the poor kid will have to change their diapers. Utter selfishness
in a country that so over populated this is horrible! u have how many unwanted children living on the streets???
I find this act wicked by the baby reach age of knowing his parents they will die of old age
that baby is too skinny and unhealthy looking, to do anything like this is against the will of God
That baby looks like Benjamin Button that can't be healthy
This is incredibly selfish, these people are going to die before their child is even in the double digits
Follow the money
So you gjve your eggs. Which means it is your child. This is so bad
why a old person should get baby.a seventy old crazy.
Doesn’t make sense when so many children are abandoned.
These babies are so cute
@Glory Be To God Amen ah thanks
These couples should of done this in their 40s it's just sad that one or both parents could die before their next birthday this is so sad
You don't need a child when they are so old ( 65 & up).
My great aunt had to three sets of twins natural. All Survived ..
And my great grandmothers aunt had 2 sets of triplets also naturally
And my mother’s aunt had six at once also natural
Sadly they died lil by lil. But considering in those times.
With out all this medical machines etc.
Very fertile family thank goodness. But it’s a lot of love to share and costly.
I’m fine with small family.
These ppl didn't want to adopt and 'raise someone else's baby' however using egg donors ur just doing the same thing but just doing it with more risk by delivering someone else baby. Someone else's baby is still going to grow up and inherit everything. So it still doesn't make sense. Silly.
i will pray for these twins
If the parents have the money to pay for this process then I’m sure that they made the proper arrangements for said child in the event of their death , these older parents plan and want too have their children that’s more than these so called proper age younger parents can say... but it should be a age limit 50 for sure
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All these comments talking about them being too old to have kids, but there are so many grandparents raising babies because the parents won't. What's the difference? I almost died with my last child, I was 33. Death stalks every one at every age, it doesn't discriminate. So even if they were in their 40's and died who would take care of the baby?? Only one couple in this documentary had family that could help the little girl; the other two had no one so their age really doesn't matter does it?
This is wrong and unfair on these babies.
If they had a baby at 50 than Winona Ryder can
it DOES matter where the eggs and sperm come
from... i’m adopted and it was a closed adoption so i know very little of my biological parents. i’m dealing with mental health issues and have been since i was around 7. i would like to know if it runs in my biological family. i want to know what i might be dealing with when i choose to have children with my future wife. i would also like to know what physical health problems run through my family as well. it’s important to know these things to avoid bigger problems down the road. i understand feeling that your child is yours, no matter where they came from but if something happens with them, it wouldn’t hurt to know why it might be happening and if it has to do with the health and family history of the donors or biological parents. idk, that’s just my opinion though 🤷🏾♀️