Is your Collection legal? | You don't own your Movies
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2023
- Whether you Stream or Collect Physically: You don't own your Movies
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So the studios finance the films. Say for example, Sony.
I worked at a Sony authoring house creating disc's of Sony titles along with other studios like the BBC who want their own produced content put on a medium for home consumption.
We don't own the licence but we own the "copy" that the studios have implemented in the first place. They want us to have copies.
Like Paramount, Universal, Warner Brothers and Disney.
They may sometimes ask smaller labels to put out titles in physical form but yes. The small labels will approach the studios for titles they can make copies of.
My friend works at the BFI, I might ask him to clarify for me incase I am wrong.
We do own the "copies" but no, we'll never own the film.
I think you'll find Cinemas are leant films, they don't own the DCP or the prints back in the day.
People own old release prints but they don't have permission to sell tickets to people to view said print.
If you think about it, streaming services shouldn't be allowed to sell us digital copies for a licencethey can lose as it's not really their's to do that with.
You only really gave half the story, I think it's why some people don't your video.
Trevor
Thanks for this.
Yes I most definitely only know half the story...
But for me thats what all this is about. I make these videos as discussion points. So that I can learn more. I never claim to know all. I only share what I think is interesting.
Honestly I never intended to upset or offend people with my discussions here.
As I learn more. I will make updated videos. And always admit when I am wrong or if I need to clarify something further. I'm certainly no expert.
Thank you for joining the discussion. I appreciate your input 🙏
@@HydraCollectables
There's still lots I don't know. We are all learning. It's a good discussion. Maybe think about how you word what you want to say.
"My understanding is.... then put it to your viewers as a question.
If you're certain about something and done your research (not just passing what other channels might say. I see a lot of videos from well established channels that say things that makes me realise they don't have all the facts)
I'm guilty of it on my channel on occasion. I'm sure something is right but then question myself after the fact. Like you say if someone points out you might have made a mistake, you readdress it in a future video.
I hope I didn't make you feel bad. As I said I could be wrong with some of what I said. Hence I'll ask my BFI friend to clarify for me. I can put my own video out but reference your channel in a nice way. My channel is still pretty small so I'm not going to set the world alight by any means.
Like I said, good discussion, just be careful how you word what you say.
Trevor
You actually DO own the media. You own the disc, the box and the copy of the data held within.
What you don't own is the copyright/distribution rights.
Your 100% Right. But that doesn't make such a catchy title 😉👍
as long as someone doesn't walk in and decides to clear off my shelves all of my disc media is mine lol
Guard them with your life!
don't worry I installed a laser defense grid lol 😉
Fuckin' aye! 👍🏼
If I can´t own it, it should be for free.
The point to stress is that you only "own" your copy so long as the license is valid. To my knowledge the only thing between retroactively nixing all licenses on past media is sheer volume and paperwork. People are overly upset about digital distribution because they have a false sense of "owning" physical media.
I am so glad someone else gets it.
Alot of people have taken this video as an "attack" on their "ownership". Completey misunderstanding the point I am trying to make.
I just thought it was interesting, and so wanted to share 🤷♂️
I own all my media.
Because I stole it.
😅👍
It's sharing, not stealing. 🤗
Um you DO own the physical media you know why? BECAUSE YOU CAN LEGALLY ONSELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE!!!
I own transformers on blu ray, noone can legally take it away from me including the media company, they sold the disc to a store who onsold it to me. I own the disc and can enjoy the contents therein. And when i'm done, i can sell it to someone else for them to do the same.
I dont own the right to make duplicates of that media.
Please don't get me wrong here. I agree with you. I'm merely saying what the law says. And that too can be different in different countries 👍
As said in the video. No one is ever going to try and take your discs away. But its interesting to see where the law resides 🧐
@HydraCollectables I get it, when I buy the dvd/blu ray, I'm not buying the movie itself! As in I don't own the entire IP, I can't just start walking around saying "I own transformers!!" But I do own that disc which includes that movie on it and I own the right to enjoy it for private use only, that means I also can't screen it in a park and charge people entry fees to see it.
Being a gamer, I have watched as servers close all the time meaning online multiplayer for alot of old games is now gone which leaves single player portions remaining. But lately games that are online ONLY to play it are disappearing and the entire game is gone and the disc which holds the game is now rendered useless (friday the 13th the games servers next year are closing rendering the disc useless). THAT is a legit example of not owning a game even though it's physically there. I feel that is a better example of what you're saying.
@@devilwarr1or I'm going to look into that! And maybe make a follow up video 👍 Thanks for the info!
@HydraCollectables no problem. It would be a more accurate way to make the same point about discs you own not being yours.
Friday the 13th the games servers are ending next year due to licensing and the discs will be useless.
Another immediate example is battlefield 1943 on xbox, the games servers were shut down this month due to low player count (it is an old game but still) and in doing so the game is unplayable. I can start it but that's it.
I'm sure you'll find more examples and I didn't mean to hijack this video to be about games when you're more talking movies just that it's more relevant to your point.
That's it? Give me back my 2 minutes and 23 seconds!
Yeah yeah, and technically a tomato is a fruit, not a vegetable, but no one calls them fruits do they?
Anyone who ever would need to categorize it would.
Hard to make a case that the physical media owned does not belong to the owner, as it was made available for sale. If the copy is labelled Not for Resale, or you start distributing copies, you are SOL.
Absolutely! I 100% agree. Trying to make a case against anyone for this would be ridiculous.
Of course I don´t have copy right of movies.
But what is interesting, do You have all of the rights for this YT-video?
Contents of the film. visual and audio, is intellectual property owned by the studio. Legal copies of the film on vhs, betamax, laserdisc, dvd, etc is yours.
Until the licenses are revoked. You purchased a license to play it from the medium that srores the copy you acquired. The only reason they haven't revoked old licenses relates to the value proposition (nothing) in doing so. And the volume and impossibility of finding them. Napster was deemed too big of a lawsuit to handle for example.
would love to see your sources, because this sounds like BS.
This is one of the sources I used for this piece.
I agree it all sounds ridiculous. And I state that in the video. Some sources say one thing and others another. Not to mention the different laws in different countries.
I just thought it was interesting. Hence why I shared it here.
Its certainly struck a cord with people and has opened up some great discussions. Which for me is what this is all about 👍
I love to learn from those viewers that know more than me and can fill in the gaps 🙏
www.techdirt.com/2015/04/23/dvd-makers-say-that-you-dont-really-own-dvds-you-bought-thanks-to-copyright/
Liking the classic marvel figurine collection off Eaglemoss you got in the background. Did you manage to get them all?
Thanks! It's actually the "Young Rich Toys 3rd Party 1/6 scale Miles Morales" - Dressed in the Fancy Dress Spider-man costume he had from the first Spider-verse Movie 😅👍
That being said. I love the Eaglemoss stuff but sadly don't own any 😭
@@HydraCollectables oh wow, they looked like the figurine collection…I can see what looks like the special “Kingpin” they released. I’m lucky and have the collection in my display cabinet
@@MykeWinters Oh, you mean in the glass Cabinet? Those are Marvel Legends (by Hasbro/Toybiz)
The BBC did it with things they were selling as streaming " Sorry we are wipeing your bought stuff tough luck customer. ""
Its shocking isn't it. I know its in the terms of use that we agree to. But they shouldn't be able to do it.
Calling 999 as we speak
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this is a load..i bought it. i own it.
I agree. That's how it should be. Infact for the most part that's how it is. But the law is what the law is.
Not how it works. You bought a license to play it.
Nice title.
The difference between you and me, Luke? I don't make a video admitting my crimes and put it on TH-cam. Happy new year. In prison.
I guess its one of those things that technically is illegal, but like jaywalking and the occasional fanart, companies usually don't care.
Exactly!
it's fraud, they use the term buy or purchase, when it is actually just long term rental.
Agreed. The wording is very dodgy on their behalf. Makes you wonder how they get away with it...
Tbh you dont even really own your own tv house car streaming services or anything
This is true. Scary really when you look into it.
Clickbait....and total bollocks too.