Dang guys it seems like your getting a lot more heresy, Hunters on your channel in the comments. I just wanted to encourage you and let you know I’m so thankful for this channel. It brings up so many good questions and studies to seek the lord on in scripture. Keep on keeping on brothers!
Probably coming from Justin Peters camp or Revealing truth channel lol. I just tell them the Bible isn't in the Bible so the Bible is unbiblical and that usually makes go away.
@@BiblemanChristian brother remnant radio has always been a place where they bring people from all theological backgrounds in the faith. Just like they had Costi Hinn this week. Which I consider a brother but disagree with him in alot of areas. What makes this channel great is that without completely throwing out our own convictions and beliefs we can find a unity in the faith to hear where others are at in their beliefs and faith. Blessings brother and I hope that the lord gives you blessing and insight to discern his good and perfect plan for your life
Paul was the original “heresy hunter”. Have you read his writings at all?? He actually called for people to be put out of the church. He told people to watch for people teaching a different gospel than what he was teaching and bringing a different spirit than what he was bringing. Go read 2 Corinthians 11. Do you not realize there are “false Jesus’ “, a different gospel, and deceiving spirits? And do you think they come with flags waving to let you know they are false? Of course not. They come as deceiving as possible. We must ONLY unify around the version of Jesus that is clearly laid out in scripture!!
@@BiblemanChristian i definitely disagreed with that statement that demons don’t lie. As deception is the nature of the demonic. But isn’t this a secondary issue not a primary issue? Is there something that was in this interview that is a primary doctrine of the faith that was brought up?
In my experience, I would describe discernment of spirits as the Holy Spirit bearing witness to my spirit and giving me a word of knowledge or word of wisdom about the identity, the motives, or the origin of some aspect of what's happening or of the person in front of me. The Holy Spirit we're leaving differentiate to me the difference between someone's natural flesh, them in error, them in deception, them intending to deceive me, or if what they're doing or saying is by the Spirit of God, or of a demon or other ungodly spirit manifesting/speaking through them/manipulating them. It makes it really easy to tell demonic false teaching from someone misspeaking or simply in error/incorrectly understanding the subject matter. Just as the Holy Spirit empowers the gospel as it is preached and is at work in it, so are other spirits at work in the deception they are weaving through false teachers.
I'm aware of how this will sound but, here it is. I've been pretty much a non believer, but ummm...had some visions of the past...and a couple of the future I think...and then this happened. One night in my apartment about a year ago, I was frustrated and thinking about meaning of life kind of things. I asked whomever might be listening, "why is everything so secret and cryptic; why can't we just be told in a more direct manner the answers to all these important questions we have like, who am I?". Well, I got my answer. A being/person appeared beside me, on one knee next to the couch to be eye level with me. He was wearing a really shiny, really golden breast plate with a red/burgundy tunic underneath that ended above the knee like men would wear in ancient times. His hair was kind of short but hanging down the sides of his face a little and really really blonde (almost white). He was very pale and very "glowy". His eyes looked like there was a star in each of them, literally a big twinkling star in each of them,shining outwards; it's all you could see. The area around him was darker than my apartment lighting and a little warpy, which is what caught my attention in the corner of my eye when it started. It was like another reality was opened up in this one. Little flecks of orange light flowing in one direction like a calm river of embers from a fire. He looked at me with this almost pleased half smile kind of a look, and in a tone of voice one uses to answer a question just said, "David, you are a son of God". I wasn't scared; it actually felt very peaceful and there was just so much regal holiness emanating from him, but I was just so stunned, all I could do was stare at him. I was looking at his eyes just shining away and I was wondering to myself what his eyes looked like behind that, if there even was anything. Well, he obviously "heard" me wondering that because he turned his head to the right somewhat so he wasn't looking directly at me, so I could see his eyes better, and I saw them move around a little and I'm pretty sure they were blue. The whole thing lasted about 15 seconds and I guess it was time for him to go. The flecks of light flowing in from behind him suddenly rapidly sped up and multiplied until it was a raging torrent. It became like a wall of light and there was a flash and he was gone. I just sat there motionless in stunned silence for several minutes trying to take it all in. Pretty sure it was an angel😳😱😲. Going to be baptized soon.
While in the Coast Guard and on a liberty weekend in Eureka, California, I had an encounter with a bright light and the most awesome feeling of peace. I've never forgotten it, and i hope it was angelic and not a mimic angel of light. I will never deny Jesus and I would love to know what that meant, and I wish I could say I was more Godly after that but I feel like I'll get there, and He is my savior and I hope to completely give my life to Jesus someday, until then I repent daily and hope to not just be a fan but a true Christian who will be called and my name written in the Book of Life!
Davey, just want to affirm you. Don't listen to the nay-sayers. Don't be afraid of deception as Holy Spirit knows how to lead you. If your experiences lead you to manifest and receive the fruits of Holy Spirit, chances are extremely likely you are dealing with an agent of the Lord. 🙏🙌
One thing so far 39 minutes into this teaching it seems to be there there is not a balance about hearing the voice of God and knowing the scriptures. You need to have this balance. Where the Holy Spirit is teaching you the word of God. It’s not about getting facts and stories correct. Or correct theology. While they’re important. We must remember that it’s a Holy Spirit teach us. If you’re spending time in the Lord and your baptized in the Holy Spirit and you’re reading your Bible you will get a sense of what a person is teaching or preaching or sharing with you is from the Lord or not. It’s just like dealing with counterfeit money you know the difference. My sheep hear my voice you need both the Bible and the formality with the Holy Spirit
i always say i have the gift of discernment, and the gift of knowledge, gift of intercession, gift of reading energy (idk what you call that biblically) both in people and land as well. i sense death. i get words. i see visions awake and have prayers/dreams that are spot on without knowledge. i've had so many odd supernatural/paranormal experiences in my life that i've never sought because as a believer I was scared to be playing with the devil. now i'm trying to learn what the gifts i have are and how to use them properly. hubbys job moves us every three months so i've now began searching for an online community because I can't get into a church for any amount of time. however, i've found y'all and Laura Sanger, Dr. Heiser and am growing through seeking and asking and prayer and worship. thank y'all for your obedience and yet also for your wilingness to question and test everything.
As far as dealing with that teenage boy goes, as long as I was "praising the Lord," I was able to keep him from acting out, tearing up the room, or hurting anybody...I was wondering why I seemed to be thrown into quite a few of these situations...Also, the other teachers were sort of frozen in fear and they didn't know what to do...I was thinking, "Why me?" I was in my twenties at this time, but had been in "Pentecostal" Churches since I was 18.
This is so a great, really clarifying for me as I have this gift yet in a cessationist context sometimes get scared to exercise or talk about it. Y’all really removed fear about a few things.
Maybe the simplicity of this gift is hard for our modern brains to comprehend. Maybe. Without God’s Holy Spirit living in me, I could not discern. Personally, I call it “red flag moments”, not to be too simplistic. Thanks for spending time on this, gentlemen.
Great discussion! Can the gift of discernment also be associated with being able to "see in the spirit?" I know people who can see with their physical eyes into those realms. I see that you talked a little bit about this at 21 minutes. It's interesting to me that the three of you have not had many experiences with people that can see in the spirit. It's totally a thing, and might seem "weird" at first, but honestly to me, it's totally natural. We obviously don't worship them, or anything like that. I think of them as brothers / friends and we all serve Jesus together.
Meaning of discerning of spirits.. I was prophesied over twice at different times. Different ministry...among the things spoken..I was told.." you know things that you dont know how you know.or what to do with" . I've heard many teachings on the gifts of the spirit..and im glad to say..that my experience..what was already occurring..b4 i completely understood the gift..was actually....already operating in..discerning of spirits.
I should have added..discerning..hearing seeing and experiences in the spirit realm..demons..and angels...conversations and thoughts that are not mine.
Love the video guys! I have another expression of discernment of spirits like you talked about at the end there, which is actually seeing them or seeing them in spirit. I have seen demons when they've attacked during sleep paralysis which everyone is kind o f familiar with. Additionally, I see sometimes angels and sometimes demons just doing things around me. It's not like a literal physical seeing. It's like of like a mirage with shape and form, and a little iridescence about the light coming through it. My downstairs neighbors does witchcraft and plays with things like astral projection. When she looks into my apartment, I'll see a giant poking his head up from the floor and looking at me, eyes and mouth wide open (again, it's like seeing just a wobble in your vision or something, or like the movie Predator when his armor activates). He seems about 12-14 feet tall, and like he's standing in her bedroom. Clearly not a prince but a bastard spirit. I see them with people sometimes, especially really friendly girls that seem to have that love at first sight thing. I see angels as well, but usually formless. They have a quiet peace about them, not anxiety like the bastard spirits. All I've really seen of them are sort of 3 dimensional, iridescent halos, like how people envision Jacob's ladder or the glory of God that sat upon the first temple. I've seen them more often lately. I had visions of demons when I got delivered (Mahabone, Abbadon, and Jahbulon mainly -- all like inch-tall cartoon caricatures), and one of those angels was in the room too. At one point during my deliverance, Mahabone appeared like a big, slimy red octopus that took up the whole room. He kinda just sat there blobbing it up. I'm not sure if he was trying to be scary or what the point of that was, but he did appear that way. That's sight, not the visions. Clearly Mahabone is a power, not a nephilim spirit, and he showed up in color. I found that pretty interesting, and it makes me wonder if only shedim can show up in color like that -- if the nephilim and rephaim / anakim can only show up like they're wearing that Harry Potter cloak of invisibility. The same way you can see and feel your spirit man -- in armor or not, wearing a crown or not -- you can see and feel angels and princes and bastard spirits as well. It's pretty cool if you ask me! I don't talk much about it though because obviously the APA has defined this type of discernment as a mental disorder caused by a made-up chemical imbalance that renders you worthy of permanent tranquillization and institutionalization. It's not, LOL, it's just an expression of the discernment of spirits.
Great discussion, my thoughts on discernment is that the gift really starts with knowing the starting point of our own heart. I think a good example of this is when Jesus says to the disciples ‘you don’t know what spirit you are of’, or you could say you can’t even discern your own heart. The hebrews scriptures also support the ability of our own hearts being able to discern between good and evil. I think that discernment starts with knowing what spirit am I actually operating in. As you guys pointed out often it is portrayed as a pointing gift .. hey you… hey he… when really it is just criticism masquerading as discernment. Yes I think as we understand truth our own discernment grows and it always starts with discerning our own heart.. our starting point. We can quite often start with the same critical spirit that we are pointing out in others…
practical application... fear...it can be a useful human emotion... it can be reverant... it can be an opression from an evil spirit... discerment... distguishing spirits is helpful in knowing what actions to take in addressing something like fear. If you just assume all fear is from the devil... you might be wrong and miss out on the right way to address it...
Not to change the subject but, how would a person know whether or not they have the "gift" of discerning of spirits? How can you tell if it's just your "imagination" or something else...I have had a few experiences with the demonic...I wasn't able to "cast anything out," but I was able to keep other people safe from "that thing." In one instance, my head teacher (Mrs. Taylor), sent me to the back of the classroom to deal with a teenage boy, who I am pretty sure was either possessed or demonized...He "manifested" some weird stuff...I was a young Christian and the only thing I could think of was that song, "Praise the Lord, Anyway
there can also be a discerning of spirits in which one can be aware of presences of angels perhaps an angel that has taken a human appearance or a demon masquerading , or using a person.
Discernment of false doctrine come from the knowledge of God's Word, the WORD is very important to distinguish between false and sound doctrine but through the gift the Christian can discern the actual DEMON behind the false teaching. The gift of discerning of spirits is it itself explanatory, the gift causes you to discern all spirits by the Holy Spirit. With this gift a Christian can discern the human spirit and the condition of the person's spirit, angels, different types of demons, and the presence of the Lord.
This is true. I have also discerned heresy/false teaching first through the gift of discernment and then after investigation through the application of the word of God. Heb 5:13-14
I feel like discerning of spirits sometimes overlaps words of knowledge? Like those examples of knowing what kind of spirit is there and why. Knowing what spirit it is would be discerning of spirits and knowing why it's there is the word of knowledge, in my opinion? I also feel like discerning of spirita makes you know whether a spirit has really left the person or if it has gone into hiding?
"You don't know what type of spirit you are of..." That could be understood as - "you are of God (Good Spirit), but you don't know it because of your actions/thoughts in the moment".
I heard Roundtree saying here. That in his evangelical time. He knew of people who had what he believe was the word of wisdom or word knowledge but they didn’t want to say anything because of the teaching against the gifts of the spirit. I don’t believe a person can operate in any of the gifts without first being baptized in the holy Spirit. I believe what Roundtree was witnessing from his experience there were people who were into the Bible reading the Bible and you get a sense of spirituality there. It’s like learning right from wrong. They could tell when people were operating in a right or they were operating in a selfish way. But it wasn’t because they were were using the gifts of the spirit. You must be baptized in the Holy Spirit first in order for the Holy Spirit to move upon you and use you in that way
Is God doing something in October and September again lol I'm still waiting on the sign for last October and September lol. I'm a Seer and I see through you get it "SEE" lol. You can't have my glasses.
Having been involved in “the occult” before returning to the Lord, I will tell you that even the average person can feel or sense the presence of a nasty spirit. They have a fogginess, bad smell etc. it IS palpable! My hubby and I walked into a religious school and sensed calmness and a peacefulness that was not present in the surrounding area or in the public school. I am not particularly “gifted” in this regard. Some people ARE ESPECIALLY gifted in this area. That’s a different issue.
My pastor has the gift of discerning of spirits and the gift is very sensitive and strong in his life. If you want to listen to his experiences with this gift I can share a link to his videos. Of all the many articles I've read on this gift only 1 article stood out, where that pastor's had the same strong sensitivity with this gift like my pastor, this pastor from America could literally sense heresy on certain Christian books, I also gave an article of a prophet to my pastor and he also discerned heresy in that article before he read it, when he read the article he saw in that article were doctrinal errors made.
Discernment comes from reading, learning and understanding God's word. If you do not know what our perfect Creator thinks or how He acts, how will you know if what you are dealing with spiritually is Him? You can't, so you use His word to validate all things! Test the spirits against the word. Use the weapon provided to you by God. His word!
@@swordtraining I think the title is referring to the gift of discerning of spirits mentioned in 1 Cor 12 not developing discernment through the Word of God.
@@justice-wn9ec How do you know it's God without knowing His word? Jesus is the word in the flesh. The bible IS Jesus! How are you supposed to know it's Jesus if you don't learn about who He is?
Gonna be honest… This topic makes me very uncomfortable. Two (or more) Christians can look at any given situation and/or manifestation. One Christian will say said manifestation is the product of a deceptive spirit and another will accuse the first person of blaspheming or slandering the work of the Holy Spirit. Which will lead the first person to accuse the other person of not properly testing the spirits. I feel like this topic causes so much confusion in the body of Christ. This is one thing that leads me to avoid Pentecostal / charismatic type churches and stick with desiring to know Christ and yearning for the Holy Spirit to move me toward holiness and a deeper knowledge of the Word. Because what I know FOR SURE is… It’s all about JESUS!
I know what you mean. But we are all learning. I think what may cause confusion is when someone says they KNOW for sure something is true, when if they were totally honest, they really don't. But they can still speak as though they are knowledgeable on the subject. If we would only ALL be honest with what we truly know is true, we would grow so much faster as a community. I'll admit, I've made the same mistake of speaking on things as though I know for sure what I'm talking about, when I really don't. Like you said, it's best to just stick with what we DO know until God gives us understanding. And we all know Jesus is Lord and Savior. I pray for humility within the body... beginning with me. God, forgive me for speaking out of place.
@@ichoozjc confusion comes from the devil therefore should be avoided at all costs.1 Corinthians 14:33."For God is not a God of confusion but of peace."
@@swordtraining perhaps perplexed is a better word. I know that you're the type that will argue anything just for arguments sake. So, I doubt there will ever be understanding between us. God bless you bro.
What you guys think of when scripture said why do you think these in your hearts as he could discern that? I've had experience of passing someone and hearing what they was thinking
8:00 We must be cautious that happy, pleasant, good feels aren’t always a firm way to know. Christian’s (the elect) will be deceived by believing things are from God when they are not. We see this already as Christian’s are bringing new age and new thought practices in. Astral projection to heaven, etc.
I listened to the whole broadcast but I'm not sure that I recall hearing you talk about whether we should listen to prophetic words for the new year? That was something mentioned in the intro. Maybe I missed it I've really been struggling certain online prophets and prophetess has I personally don't listen to them anymore but my friends do and they have been banking on their every word which in my opinion has either been wrong or is obvious stuff. It's also mostly doom-and-gloom and predictions about things that are going to happen to America with, like I said most of us paying attention to the basic news can figure out that bad things are probably coming. But all these people preach in the name of Jesus and my friends defend them with just that alone and I just keep getting a feeling that there's something ungodly about these prophets and prophetess. For example Pastor Paul Begley and the Master's Voice prophecy blog TH-cam channel. I can't even!!!
Some think seeing is a strong discernment gift. Hard to say with certainty since it's not spelled out as such in Scripture. However, good discernment is still required with seeing because you need to rely on the Holy Spirit to see through the demonic presenting itself deceptively.
@swordtraining For sure, Biblical immersion is so important but I tend to agree with Remnant Radio that the discernment gift per se is unique from mature Christian wisdom (we all should grow into mature Christian wisdom but we will not all have the gift of discernment proper
Interesting the stuff always came back in regards when I did deliverance. What got me free and keeps me free is the word of God prayer and fasting . I’d caution anyone just getting deliverance alone they won’t keep it . Because the devil always comes back . They have to know to read the Bible and to pray when they are counter attacked .
A hugely important subject brothers......Thank you for addressing it! (and its a relief after some recent programs of demons inside Christians!) But we want you to go deeper and not tiptoe over bringing rebuke to some of the spirits of error among a growing number of our fellow charismatics as well as cessationists. (I cannot count the number of times red flags have gone up in my heart and others whom I respect who are grounded in good doctrine..when we hear well known "prophets or "apostles" speaking on the most popular prophecy channel online (which I don't need to name)and they were either lying or exaggerating ,or more likely, sincerely believing their own fantasy revelations that clearly conflict with Scripture). When the prophecies are 90% focused on America unique "covenant destiny" and Trump's greatness mixed with "Q drops" or a "Red Sea event of exposure and Gitmo judgment of our enemies" and how DJT alone is God's instrument to rescue America, or when their message is focused on wealth release, or blood line generational curses, or speaking things into existence by word faith decrees, or teaching of "frequency healing prophecies", or opening portals or time travel or lining up the vomit buckets for these high emotion-primed ungrounded lambs who are told in advance that their besetting problem of the flesh are indwelling devils!..Why don't we firmly say" NO! I DISCERN THIS IS ANGEL OF LIGHT DECEPTION!" Why should it only be those cessationists "solo scriptura" guys showing discernment and giving warning? (often , sadly, in a legalistic pharisee attitude)...I'm weary of hearing only them and not those like you good brothers address this serious subject of discerning and warning others of error even more seriously.. So ,please, do another program on this general subject.....[And yes guys, PLEASE bring better clarity on the recent confusion regarding that subject of demon possession inside the believer or you'll lose a bunch of us as viewers] We love you in Christ and pray for you bros! We need you out here!!
I wonder what you guys make of Matthew 16, Jesus discerning that Peter spoke through the Spirit when he said ‘He is the Christ and the Son of the living God’ ‘flesh and blood did not reveal this to you….’ and then saying ‘get behind me satan, you do not have in your mind the things of God but the things of men..’ when he said he would surely not die and how the discerning of spirits relates to that.
Maybe it's the difference between what it is, and WHY it is. Daniel interpreted the dream, but he told the King what it was without ever hearing the dream.
Kind of a muddled mess this time guys. Admittedly, it's a tough subject with few referential texts, but I was hoping for more than anecdotes and inside jokes. Maybe a part 2?
Okay, so this is what I walked away with. Please correct me if I'm wrong. When I see false teachers, false prophets, healers, deliverance, etc, and it's crystal clear that they are spouting out false doctrine, that just means I have common sense. So when I pray for those who are sitting under such people who are leading them straight over a cliff, I shouldn't ask the Holy Spirit to give them discernment. I should just ask Him to give them common sense. Is that right? Did I hear it correctly? Maybe I've been praying all wrong all along.
As to similarities, 🤔 what about discerning the annointing the Holy Spirit is bringing - in the gospels it talks about the Spirit was present to heal.., and regarding the human spirit, it was mentioned about selfish ambition etc what about someone who is preaching out of their spirit, it being their out of own gifts eg: evangelism, but not the Holy Spirit, being not what the Spirit of God is wanting to say at that exact moment, or slanted by that personal bias. I also think that having that gift does not make you Johnny on the spot. Someone with that gift only knows if what when and where, as they are told. If not they are as clueless as anyone else, because their discernment is not out of a critical spirit.
People do not need a demonic influence in order to want to murder someone. This line of thinking puts the responsibility for the act on a demonic influence, and not the person. There is not a demon behind every evil act men do. Paul doesn’t blame demons for Men’s actions. He blames men and the lust of the flesh.
I don't agree with you on this. Also just because someone is influenced to do something doesn't mean none of the blame goes to them but goes all on the thing that influenced them. That's faulty logic.
@@onehappydawgyes, I agree with that. There is danger in the view that its always a demon behind mans wicked acts. It suggests our agency is limited for a start which could impact our view on a person's responsibility and suitable punishment.
The opposite can actually be true. People will commit evil acts to ALLOW a particular spirit to operate in an area. That spirit can influence more bad behavior. This is the idea behind “strongholds.”
@@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800 there is not a demonic spirit or stronghold behind every evil act. You do realize that demons are not “fallen angels” right? You know the devil is not omniscient or omnipresent right? Satan influences the world, most men make their own choices when tempted and just because they choose to sin and continue to sin does not mean there is a “demon” involved. “….each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death…” James 1
Discernment Of Spirits comes from two sources: accumulation of wealth of knowledges and experiences, and/or receiving the gift of discernment of spirits directly from God. Either way, they must be backed up by Biblical principles and Biblical verses. We often heard Christians testified that they have gift of teaching or gift of healing, but rarely we heard Christians testified that they have gift of discernment of spirits. When a Christian correctly points out certain erroneous teachings, that is discernment of spirits at work. Seeing angels or demons does not help Christians’ growth.
I’m enjoying your discussion but can’t agree with any of you on Luke 9:55-56. Jesus is telling them the Holy Spirit is about saving people, not destroying them. He is indeed our Glorious Saviour 🙏❤️✝️
There are no such things as seers. In the Bible, that's a term used only 22 times in 4 Old Testament books and the term is used interchangeably with prophet. It's never used in the New Testament. Being able to occasionally see into the spirit realm is one of the operations or manifestations of the discerning of spirits gift. I don't believe there are angels of healing or finances, or whatever. Anything that comes from Toronto or Bethel needs to be questioned.
Had been learning a lot from your channel, but in this show and a few others, you seem to dismiss the you seem to dismiss the supernatural nature of the gifts and just laugh and joke. Only one of you seemed to give the topic serious consideration. People new to charismatic Christianity are hungry for knowledge. Not jokes or arguements against their existance. Go back and listen to this one
Your background of red lights, strange onjects and salt lamps(?) is spooky. And whats that poster all about? Very strange and hard to listen to what youre saying with all that " stuff" behind you.
Miller has the spirit of trauma due to his experience of getting fired from that church. You don't need therapy bro it's an easy fix I've been there and done that lol. Put on these glasses 🤓.
@@swordtraining No just a head of my time unfortunately. The devil is building something in the church and this hybrid of abominations will give birth to a new world religion. I will call the baby Balaam for now.
@@putontheseglasses8809 ahead of your time? That's not pride? You certainly are full of yourself to be such an amazingly special godly person. Funny thing is, you said I was full of pride but never said a word about myself. Interesting how that works.
I can discern from your ministry that you are charging $150 for a bogus meeting to teach people false doctrines. You might as well teach people how to write horoscopes. Cold reading is not a righteous teaching.
I think you are misrepresenting them with this comment. They are putting on a pretty large conference that lasts multiple days and the $150 is the cost to register and attend. Most conferences cost a lot of money because they have to pay for the venue, food, tech and lighting services etc. It always bothers me that whenever a Christian leader or teacher charges money for ANYTHING they are accused of money grabbing or scamming people. As far as the soundness of their doctrine is concerned I would ask that you be more specific. I have never once heard them teach true cold reading, unless you’re using a different definition of that term. I have watched these guys for a long time and have seen them get things wrong, apologize, change their mind when new info is discovered, etc. they seem to be acting in good faith but certainly they aren’t perfect. Should I assume by your comment that all your beliefs are 100% accurate and able to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt through scripture?
Very little understanding that the only true translation is the KJV, so using here a little and there a little, is the only Biblical way to come to Truth
Dang guys it seems like your getting a lot more heresy, Hunters on your channel in the comments. I just wanted to encourage you and let you know I’m so thankful for this channel. It brings up so many good questions and studies to seek the lord on in scripture. Keep on keeping on brothers!
Probably coming from Justin Peters camp or Revealing truth channel lol. I just tell them the Bible isn't in the Bible so the Bible is unbiblical and that usually makes go away.
@@BiblemanChristian brother remnant radio has always been a place where they bring people from all theological backgrounds in the faith. Just like they had Costi Hinn this week. Which I consider a brother but disagree with him in alot of areas. What makes this channel great is that without completely throwing out our own convictions and beliefs we can find a unity in the faith to hear where others are at in their beliefs and faith. Blessings brother and I hope that the lord gives you blessing and insight to discern his good and perfect plan for your life
Paul was the original “heresy hunter”. Have you read his writings at all?? He actually called for people to be put out of the church. He told people to watch for people teaching a different gospel than what he was teaching and bringing a different spirit than what he was bringing. Go read 2 Corinthians 11. Do you not realize there are “false Jesus’ “, a different gospel, and deceiving spirits? And do you think they come with flags waving to let you know they are false? Of course not. They come as deceiving as possible. We must ONLY unify around the version of Jesus that is clearly laid out in scripture!!
Yes brother. And we ARE brothers. Love you.
@@BiblemanChristian i definitely disagreed with that statement that demons don’t lie. As deception is the nature of the demonic. But isn’t this a secondary issue not a primary issue? Is there something that was in this interview that is a primary doctrine of the faith that was brought up?
Remnant. Thank you. It's always healthy to see men of God, not in total agreement, walking through discussions.
Thank you gentlemen
In my experience, I would describe discernment of spirits as the Holy Spirit bearing witness to my spirit and giving me a word of knowledge or word of wisdom about the identity, the motives, or the origin of some aspect of what's happening or of the person in front of me. The Holy Spirit we're leaving differentiate to me the difference between someone's natural flesh, them in error, them in deception, them intending to deceive me, or if what they're doing or saying is by the Spirit of God, or of a demon or other ungodly spirit manifesting/speaking through them/manipulating them.
It makes it really easy to tell demonic false teaching from someone misspeaking or simply in error/incorrectly understanding the subject matter. Just as the Holy Spirit empowers the gospel as it is preached and is at work in it, so are other spirits at work in the deception they are weaving through false teachers.
I'm aware of how this will sound but, here it is. I've been pretty much a non believer, but ummm...had some visions of the past...and a couple of the future I think...and then this happened. One night in my apartment about a year ago, I was frustrated and thinking about meaning of life kind of things. I asked whomever might be listening, "why is everything so secret and cryptic; why can't we just be told in a more direct manner the answers to all these important questions we have like, who am I?". Well, I got my answer. A being/person appeared beside me, on one knee next to the couch to be eye level with me. He was wearing a really shiny, really golden breast plate with a red/burgundy tunic underneath that ended above the knee like men would wear in ancient times. His hair was kind of short but hanging down the sides of his face a little and really really blonde (almost white). He was very pale and very "glowy". His eyes looked like there was a star in each of them, literally a big twinkling star in each of them,shining outwards; it's all you could see. The area around him was darker than my apartment lighting and a little warpy, which is what caught my attention in the corner of my eye when it started. It was like another reality was opened up in this one. Little flecks of orange light flowing in one direction like a calm river of embers from a fire. He looked at me with this almost pleased half smile kind of a look, and in a tone of voice one uses to answer a question just said, "David, you are a son of God". I wasn't scared; it actually felt very peaceful and there was just so much regal holiness emanating from him, but I was just so stunned, all I could do was stare at him. I was looking at his eyes just shining away and I was wondering to myself what his eyes looked like behind that, if there even was anything. Well, he obviously "heard" me wondering that because he turned his head to the right somewhat so he wasn't looking directly at me, so I could see his eyes better, and I saw them move around a little and I'm pretty sure they were blue. The whole thing lasted about 15 seconds and I guess it was time for him to go. The flecks of light flowing in from behind him suddenly rapidly sped up and multiplied until it was a raging torrent. It became like a wall of light and there was a flash and he was gone. I just sat there motionless in stunned silence for several minutes trying to take it all in. Pretty sure it was an angel😳😱😲. Going to be baptized soon.
Ummmm........WOOOAAAHHH!!!!! I believe you got your answer! Just now seeing this a year later but just had to comment! This is amazing!
While in the Coast Guard and on a liberty weekend in Eureka, California, I had an encounter with a bright light and the most awesome feeling of peace. I've never forgotten it, and i hope it was angelic and not a mimic angel of light. I will never deny Jesus and I would love to know what that meant, and I wish I could say I was more Godly after that but I feel like I'll get there, and He is my savior and I hope to completely give my life to Jesus someday, until then I repent daily and hope to not just be a fan but a true Christian who will be called and my name written in the Book of Life!
Had you been drinking?
Davey, just want to affirm you. Don't listen to the nay-sayers. Don't be afraid of deception as Holy Spirit knows how to lead you. If your experiences lead you to manifest and receive the fruits of Holy Spirit, chances are extremely likely you are dealing with an agent of the Lord. 🙏🙌
One thing so far 39 minutes into this teaching it seems to be there there is not a balance about hearing the voice of God and knowing the scriptures. You need to have this balance. Where the Holy Spirit is teaching you the word of God. It’s not about getting facts and stories correct. Or correct theology. While they’re important. We must remember that it’s a Holy Spirit teach us. If you’re spending time in the Lord and your baptized in the Holy Spirit and you’re reading your Bible you will get a sense of what a person is teaching or preaching or sharing with you is from the Lord or not. It’s just like dealing with counterfeit money you know the difference. My sheep hear my voice you need both the Bible and the formality with the Holy Spirit
i always say i have the gift of discernment, and the gift of knowledge, gift of intercession, gift of reading energy (idk what you call that biblically) both in people and land as well. i sense death. i get words. i see visions awake and have prayers/dreams that are spot on without knowledge. i've had so many odd supernatural/paranormal experiences in my life that i've never sought because as a believer I was scared to be playing with the devil. now i'm trying to learn what the gifts i have are and how to use them properly. hubbys job moves us every three months so i've now began searching for an online community because I can't get into a church for any amount of time. however, i've found y'all and Laura Sanger, Dr. Heiser and am growing through seeking and asking and prayer and worship. thank y'all for your obedience and yet also for your wilingness to question and test everything.
Damn, you have so many gifts. Such a kook.
Remind me of Tammy Baker or Kenneth Hagin. Sigh, wow.
Trust Holy Spirit. He knows how to lead you. 👍🙏
Angels are our brothers in arms… they have assignments from the Father just as we do….
As far as dealing with that teenage boy goes, as long as I was "praising the Lord," I was able to keep him from acting out, tearing up the room, or hurting anybody...I was wondering why I seemed to be thrown into quite a few of these situations...Also, the other teachers were sort of frozen in fear and they didn't know what to do...I was thinking, "Why me?" I was in my twenties at this time, but had been in "Pentecostal" Churches since I was 18.
This is so a great, really clarifying for me as I have this gift yet in a cessationist context sometimes get scared to exercise or talk about it. Y’all really removed fear about a few things.
Maybe the simplicity of this gift is hard for our modern brains to comprehend. Maybe. Without God’s Holy Spirit living in me, I could not discern. Personally, I call it “red flag moments”, not to be too simplistic. Thanks for spending time on this, gentlemen.
Great discussion! Can the gift of discernment also be associated with being able to "see in the spirit?" I know people who can see with their physical eyes into those realms.
I see that you talked a little bit about this at 21 minutes. It's interesting to me that the three of you have not had many experiences with people that can see in the spirit. It's totally a thing, and might seem "weird" at first, but honestly to me, it's totally natural. We obviously don't worship them, or anything like that. I think of them as brothers / friends and we all serve Jesus together.
The angel that stirred the waters for healing. [Stirring peoples faith, because God's mercy and he is good! ]
Meaning of discerning of spirits.. I was prophesied over twice at different times. Different ministry...among the things spoken..I was told.." you know things that you dont know how you know.or what to do with" . I've heard many teachings on the gifts of the spirit..and im glad to say..that my experience..what was already occurring..b4 i completely understood the gift..was actually....already operating in..discerning of spirits.
I should have added..discerning..hearing seeing and experiences in the spirit realm..demons..and angels...conversations and thoughts that are not mine.
Love the video guys! I have another expression of discernment of spirits like you talked about at the end there, which is actually seeing them or seeing them in spirit. I have seen demons when they've attacked during sleep paralysis which everyone is kind o f familiar with. Additionally, I see sometimes angels and sometimes demons just doing things around me. It's not like a literal physical seeing. It's like of like a mirage with shape and form, and a little iridescence about the light coming through it. My downstairs neighbors does witchcraft and plays with things like astral projection. When she looks into my apartment, I'll see a giant poking his head up from the floor and looking at me, eyes and mouth wide open (again, it's like seeing just a wobble in your vision or something, or like the movie Predator when his armor activates). He seems about 12-14 feet tall, and like he's standing in her bedroom. Clearly not a prince but a bastard spirit. I see them with people sometimes, especially really friendly girls that seem to have that love at first sight thing. I see angels as well, but usually formless. They have a quiet peace about them, not anxiety like the bastard spirits. All I've really seen of them are sort of 3 dimensional, iridescent halos, like how people envision Jacob's ladder or the glory of God that sat upon the first temple. I've seen them more often lately. I had visions of demons when I got delivered (Mahabone, Abbadon, and Jahbulon mainly -- all like inch-tall cartoon caricatures), and one of those angels was in the room too. At one point during my deliverance, Mahabone appeared like a big, slimy red octopus that took up the whole room. He kinda just sat there blobbing it up. I'm not sure if he was trying to be scary or what the point of that was, but he did appear that way. That's sight, not the visions. Clearly Mahabone is a power, not a nephilim spirit, and he showed up in color. I found that pretty interesting, and it makes me wonder if only shedim can show up in color like that -- if the nephilim and rephaim / anakim can only show up like they're wearing that Harry Potter cloak of invisibility. The same way you can see and feel your spirit man -- in armor or not, wearing a crown or not -- you can see and feel angels and princes and bastard spirits as well. It's pretty cool if you ask me! I don't talk much about it though because obviously the APA has defined this type of discernment as a mental disorder caused by a made-up chemical imbalance that renders you worthy of permanent tranquillization and institutionalization. It's not, LOL, it's just an expression of the discernment of spirits.
Great discussion, my thoughts on discernment is that the gift really starts with knowing the starting point of our own heart. I think a good example of this is when Jesus says to the disciples ‘you don’t know what spirit you are of’, or you could say you can’t even discern your own heart. The hebrews scriptures also support the ability of our own hearts being able to discern between good and evil. I think that discernment starts with knowing what spirit am I actually operating in. As you guys pointed out often it is portrayed as a pointing gift .. hey you… hey he… when really it is just criticism masquerading as discernment. Yes I think as we understand truth our own discernment grows and it always starts with discerning our own heart.. our starting point. We can quite often start with the same critical spirit that we are pointing out in others…
this!
Love all your content. Super edifying and im grateful I crossed your page.
Thank you, Gentlemen ⭐🌹⭐🌹⭐🌹
practical application... fear...it can be a useful human emotion... it can be reverant... it can be an opression from an evil spirit... discerment... distguishing spirits is helpful in knowing what actions to take in addressing something like fear. If you just assume all fear is from the devil... you might be wrong and miss out on the right way to address it...
I’m. Kinda excited about this.
Not to change the subject but, how would a person know whether or not they have the "gift" of discerning of spirits? How can you tell if it's just your "imagination" or something else...I have had a few experiences with the demonic...I wasn't able to "cast anything out," but I was able to keep other people safe from "that thing." In one instance, my head teacher (Mrs. Taylor), sent me to the back of the classroom to deal with a teenage boy, who I am pretty sure was either possessed or demonized...He "manifested" some weird stuff...I was a young Christian and the only thing I could think of was that song, "Praise the Lord, Anyway
there can also be a discerning of spirits in which one can be aware of presences of angels perhaps an angel that has taken a human appearance or a demon masquerading , or using a person.
Discernment of false doctrine come from the knowledge of God's Word, the WORD is very important to distinguish between false and sound doctrine but through the gift the Christian can discern the actual DEMON behind the false teaching. The gift of discerning of spirits is it itself explanatory, the gift causes you to discern all spirits by the Holy Spirit. With this gift a Christian can discern the human spirit and the condition of the person's spirit, angels, different types of demons, and the presence of the Lord.
This is true. I have also discerned heresy/false teaching first through the gift of discernment and then after investigation through the application of the word of God. Heb 5:13-14
I feel like discerning of spirits sometimes overlaps words of knowledge? Like those examples of knowing what kind of spirit is there and why. Knowing what spirit it is would be discerning of spirits and knowing why it's there is the word of knowledge, in my opinion?
I also feel like discerning of spirita makes you know whether a spirit has really left the person or if it has gone into hiding?
"You don't know what type of spirit you are of..." That could be understood as - "you are of God (Good Spirit), but you don't know it because of your actions/thoughts in the moment".
I heard Roundtree saying here. That in his evangelical time. He knew of people who had what he believe was the word of wisdom or word knowledge but they didn’t want to say anything because of the teaching against the gifts of the spirit. I don’t believe a person can operate in any of the gifts without first being baptized in the holy Spirit. I believe what Roundtree was witnessing from his experience there were people who were into the Bible reading the Bible and you get a sense of spirituality there. It’s like learning right from wrong. They could tell when people were operating in a right or they were operating in a selfish way. But it wasn’t because they were were using the gifts of the spirit. You must be baptized in the Holy Spirit first in order for the Holy Spirit to move upon you and use you in that way
I wish you had invited me in on this discussion! Good job!
I love the NASB. ESV is great too.
Is God doing something in October and September again lol I'm still waiting on the sign for last October and September lol. I'm a Seer and I see through you get it "SEE" lol. You can't have my glasses.
@@putontheseglasses8809 🤨
@@TroyBlack exactly you don't get it
@@putontheseglasses8809 Love you, bro.
Do you guys have a net work of biblically sound
/ credible deliverance ministers you can recommend?
Having been involved in “the occult” before returning to the Lord, I will tell you that even the average person can feel or sense the presence of a nasty spirit. They have a fogginess, bad smell etc. it IS palpable! My hubby and I walked into a religious school and sensed calmness and a peacefulness that was not present in the surrounding area or in the public school. I am not particularly “gifted” in this regard. Some people ARE ESPECIALLY gifted in this area. That’s a different issue.
Have you taken your medication?
Question. Do you guys think it’s necessary to discern and know what the spirit is in order to cast it out?
i think he's saying "you don't know that you are of the Spirit of God and should love your enemies not call down fire on them. He's teaching them.
My pastor has the gift of discerning of spirits and the gift is very sensitive and strong in his life. If you want to listen to his experiences with this gift I can share a link to his videos.
Of all the many articles I've read on this gift only 1 article stood out, where that pastor's had the same strong sensitivity with this gift like my pastor, this pastor from America could literally sense heresy on certain Christian books, I also gave an article of a prophet to my pastor and he also discerned heresy in that article before he read it, when he read the article he saw in that article were doctrinal errors made.
Discernment comes from reading, learning and understanding God's word. If you do not know what our perfect Creator thinks or how He acts, how will you know if what you are dealing with spiritually is Him? You can't, so you use His word to validate all things! Test the spirits against the word. Use the weapon provided to you by God. His word!
@@swordtraining I think the title is referring to the gift of discerning of spirits mentioned in 1 Cor 12 not developing discernment through the Word of God.
Could you put a link I'm interested as I have the gift of discerning of spirits and I'd like to get better at it
@@somethinggood9267 it's called the bible!
@@justice-wn9ec How do you know it's God without knowing His word? Jesus is the word in the flesh. The bible IS Jesus! How are you supposed to know it's Jesus if you don't learn about who He is?
Gonna be honest… This topic makes me very uncomfortable. Two (or more) Christians can look at any given situation and/or manifestation. One Christian will say said manifestation is the product of a deceptive spirit and another will accuse the first person of blaspheming or slandering the work of the Holy Spirit. Which will lead the first person to accuse the other person of not properly testing the spirits.
I feel like this topic causes so much confusion in the body of Christ. This is one thing that leads me to avoid Pentecostal / charismatic type churches and stick with desiring to know Christ and yearning for the Holy Spirit to move me toward holiness and a deeper knowledge of the Word.
Because what I know FOR SURE is… It’s all about JESUS!
I know what you mean. But we are all learning. I think what may cause confusion is when someone says they KNOW for sure something is true, when if they were totally honest, they really don't. But they can still speak as though they are knowledgeable on the subject. If we would only ALL be honest with what we truly know is true, we would grow so much faster as a community. I'll admit, I've made the same mistake of speaking on things as though I know for sure what I'm talking about, when I really don't. Like you said, it's best to just stick with what we DO know until God gives us understanding. And we all know Jesus is Lord and Savior. I pray for humility within the body... beginning with me. God, forgive me for speaking out of place.
@@ichoozjc confusion comes from the devil therefore should be avoided at all costs.1 Corinthians 14:33."For God is not a God of confusion but of peace."
@@swordtraining right. And any honest Christian can admit that they have been confused before. Right?
@@ichoozjc what is there to be confused about? You speak for yourself.
@@swordtraining perhaps perplexed is a better word. I know that you're the type that will argue anything just for arguments sake. So, I doubt there will ever be understanding between us. God bless you bro.
Discernment of spirits is to perceive what spirit is motivating the individual or people on what they say or do
What you guys think of when scripture said why do you think these in your hearts as he could discern that?
I've had experience of passing someone and hearing what they was thinking
8:00 We must be cautious that happy, pleasant, good feels aren’t always a firm way to know. Christian’s (the elect) will be deceived by believing things are from God when they are not. We see this already as Christian’s are bringing new age and new thought practices in. Astral projection to heaven, etc.
So true! You may be interested in this episode on emotions vs emotionalism: th-cam.com/video/UYZLCEUhbR0/w-d-xo.html
Why am I thinking of oil in Aaron's beard right now? 😉 You are awesome.
I listened to the whole broadcast but I'm not sure that I recall hearing you talk about whether we should listen to prophetic words for the new year? That was something mentioned in the intro. Maybe I missed it I've really been struggling certain online prophets and prophetess has I personally don't listen to them anymore but my friends do and they have been banking on their every word which in my opinion has either been wrong or is obvious stuff. It's also mostly doom-and-gloom and predictions about things that are going to happen to America with, like I said most of us paying attention to the basic news can figure out that bad things are probably coming. But all these people preach in the name of Jesus and my friends defend them with just that alone and I just keep getting a feeling that there's something ungodly about these prophets and prophetess. For example Pastor Paul Begley and the Master's Voice prophecy blog TH-cam channel. I can't even!!!
We often do reviews of the "youtube prophets" and have come to the same conclusions that you have.
HOLY FIRE
READ Psalm 103:19-21. That is the foundation. By way of reminder.
I think this gift operates in seers alot
Some think seeing is a strong discernment gift. Hard to say with certainty since it's not spelled out as such in Scripture. However, good discernment is still required with seeing because you need to rely on the Holy Spirit to see through the demonic presenting itself deceptively.
@@goodtogaz and the bible to know what the character of God(the holy spirit) is in order to differentiate from evil spirits.
@swordtraining For sure, Biblical immersion is so important but I tend to agree with Remnant Radio that the discernment gift per se is unique from mature Christian wisdom (we all should grow into mature Christian wisdom but we will not all have the gift of discernment proper
In my opinion, referring to the “Strategy Angel”, it is most likely a gifting.
Interesting the stuff always came back in regards when I did deliverance. What got me free and keeps me free is the word of God prayer and fasting . I’d caution anyone just getting deliverance alone they won’t keep it . Because the devil always comes back . They have to know to read the Bible and to pray when they are counter attacked .
Do they ever do live anymore? Maybe just done ahead of time do to conference.
Probably
Yeah, they said just because the conference. They have been doing many more pre-recorded ones lately, I agree.
A hugely important subject brothers......Thank you for addressing it! (and its
a relief after some recent programs of demons inside Christians!) But we want you to go deeper and not tiptoe over bringing rebuke to some of the spirits of error among a growing number of our fellow charismatics as well as cessationists. (I cannot count the number of times red flags have gone up in my heart and others whom I respect who are grounded in good doctrine..when we hear well known "prophets or "apostles" speaking on the most popular prophecy channel online (which I don't need to name)and they were either lying or exaggerating ,or more likely, sincerely believing their own fantasy revelations that clearly conflict with Scripture).
When the prophecies are 90% focused on America unique "covenant destiny" and Trump's greatness mixed with "Q drops" or a "Red Sea event of exposure and Gitmo judgment of our enemies" and how DJT alone is God's instrument to rescue America, or when their message is focused on wealth release, or blood line generational curses, or speaking things into existence by word faith decrees, or teaching of "frequency healing prophecies", or opening portals or time travel or lining up the vomit buckets for these high emotion-primed ungrounded lambs who are told in advance that their besetting problem of the flesh are indwelling devils!..Why don't we firmly say" NO! I DISCERN THIS IS ANGEL OF LIGHT DECEPTION!"
Why should it only be those cessationists "solo scriptura" guys showing discernment and giving warning? (often , sadly, in a legalistic pharisee attitude)...I'm weary of hearing only them and not those like you good brothers address this serious subject of discerning and warning others of error even more seriously.. So ,please, do another program on this general subject.....[And yes guys, PLEASE bring better clarity on the recent confusion regarding that subject of demon possession inside the believer or you'll lose a bunch of us as viewers] We love you in Christ and pray for you bros! We need you out here!!
I couldn't agree more. I've seen a lot of abuse and confusion in this area.
I wonder what you guys make of Matthew 16, Jesus discerning that Peter spoke through the Spirit when he said ‘He is the Christ and the Son of the living God’ ‘flesh and blood did not reveal this to you….’ and then saying ‘get behind me satan, you do not have in your mind the things of God but the things of men..’ when he said he would surely not die and how the discerning of spirits relates to that.
Maybe it's the difference between what it is, and WHY it is. Daniel interpreted the dream, but he told the King what it was without ever hearing the dream.
I wish it was angels i get 2 deal with.
Only thing is, if it was demonic spirit of the sons of thunder wouldn’t Jesus have cast it out 🤔
I have a question what is the difference between the spirits of devils and evil spriits
evil spirits and the devil are all one unity, same-o same-o
Kind of a muddled mess this time guys. Admittedly, it's a tough subject with few referential texts, but I was hoping for more than anecdotes and inside jokes. Maybe a part 2?
Some use humor to gently vent a low level of uncertainty. Maybe that's what you perceived. Just a thought...
Okay, so this is what I walked away with. Please correct me if I'm wrong. When I see false teachers, false prophets, healers, deliverance, etc, and it's crystal clear that they are spouting out false doctrine, that just means I have common sense. So when I pray for those who are sitting under such people who are leading them straight over a cliff, I shouldn't ask the Holy Spirit to give them discernment. I should just ask Him to give them common sense. Is that right? Did I hear it correctly? Maybe I've been praying all wrong all along.
When common sense makes good sense you don’t need to seek any other sense.
I sincerely hope Bridgeway has a basement for Miller's breakout sessions at the conference. 😂
Correction: Gabriel was never called an archangel in scripture.
Shouldn't it be Discerning of spirits?
Discernment is the noun form of discerning which is the verb form.
Dr.Martin Luther : 'The Bible explains the Bible' the year 1537?
Puha you on board?
Am now
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As to similarities, 🤔 what about discerning the annointing the Holy Spirit is bringing - in the gospels it talks about the Spirit was present to heal.., and regarding the human spirit, it was mentioned about selfish ambition etc what about someone who is preaching out of their spirit, it being their out of own gifts eg: evangelism, but not the Holy Spirit, being not what the Spirit of God is wanting to say at that exact moment, or slanted by that personal bias. I also think that having that gift does not make you Johnny on the spot. Someone with that gift only knows if what when and where, as they are told. If not they are as clueless as anyone else, because their discernment is not out of a critical spirit.
People do not need a demonic influence in order to want to murder someone.
This line of thinking puts the responsibility for the act on a demonic influence, and not the person.
There is not a demon behind every evil act men do.
Paul doesn’t blame demons for Men’s actions. He blames men and the lust of the flesh.
I don't agree with you on this. Also just because someone is influenced to do something doesn't mean none of the blame goes to them but goes all on the thing that influenced them. That's faulty logic.
@@nanyummyify There is not demonic activity or influence behind every bad action men do.
@@onehappydawgyes, I agree with that. There is danger in the view that its always a demon behind mans wicked acts. It suggests our agency is limited for a start which could impact our view on a person's responsibility and suitable punishment.
The opposite can actually be true. People will commit evil acts to ALLOW a particular spirit to operate in an area. That spirit can influence more bad behavior. This is the idea behind “strongholds.”
@@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800 there is not a demonic spirit or stronghold behind every evil act.
You do realize that demons are not “fallen angels” right? You know the devil is not omniscient or omnipresent right? Satan influences the world, most men make their own choices when tempted and just because they choose to sin and continue to sin does not mean there is a “demon” involved.
“….each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death…”
James 1
Discernment Of Spirits comes from two sources: accumulation of wealth of knowledges and experiences, and/or receiving the gift of discernment of spirits directly from God. Either way, they must be backed up by Biblical principles and Biblical verses. We often heard Christians testified that they have gift of teaching or gift of healing, but rarely we heard Christians testified that they have gift of discernment of spirits. When a Christian correctly points out certain erroneous teachings, that is discernment of spirits at work. Seeing angels or demons does not help Christians’ growth.
Enough with the basement joke, it's past its expiration date.
It’s their age, friend. Let them have a little fun😅
Censationist have the gift of decernment because they like to call us heretics.
You will know them by their fruit.... Unfortunately, you have not got an ounce of discernment between the three of you!!!
I’m enjoying your discussion but can’t agree with any of you on Luke 9:55-56. Jesus is telling them the Holy Spirit is about saving people, not destroying them. He is indeed our Glorious Saviour 🙏❤️✝️
There are no such things as seers. In the Bible, that's a term used only 22 times in 4 Old Testament books and the term is used interchangeably with prophet. It's never used in the New Testament. Being able to occasionally see into the spirit realm is one of the operations or manifestations of the discerning of spirits gift. I don't believe there are angels of healing or finances, or whatever. Anything that comes from Toronto or Bethel needs to be questioned.
Together we ate the holly spirit.
What a excellent gnostic /new age teaching! 😅😂 Keep up this end times ministries of deceive the naive.😮👌
Had been learning a lot from your channel, but in this show and a few others, you seem to dismiss the you seem to dismiss the supernatural nature of the gifts and just laugh and joke. Only one of you seemed to give the topic serious consideration. People new to charismatic Christianity are hungry for knowledge. Not jokes or arguements against their existance. Go back and listen to this one
Joke about his hat not his gifts.
No horse sense, All spiritual gifts come from the Holy spirit. Be careful with your words.
Your background of red lights, strange onjects and salt lamps(?) is spooky. And whats that poster all about? Very strange and hard to listen to what youre saying with all that " stuff" behind you.
Miller has the spirit of trauma due to his experience of getting fired from that church. You don't need therapy bro it's an easy fix I've been there and done that lol. Put on these glasses 🤓.
Do you guys believe in the leg lengthening nonsense?
I can discern words and sounds now put on these glasses 🤓
Joshua has a spirit of prejudice against prophets. As a Seer I understand, lots of fakes. Now put on these glasses 🤓
Or you have a psychiatric problem. There's that too.
@@swordtraining No just a head of my time unfortunately. The devil is building something in the church and this hybrid of abominations will give birth to a new world religion. I will call the baby Balaam for now.
@@putontheseglasses8809 ahead of your time? That's not pride? You certainly are full of yourself to be such an amazingly special godly person. Funny thing is, you said I was full of pride but never said a word about myself. Interesting how that works.
@@swordtraining Never called you prideful maybe the Holy Spirit did or someone else your thinking of.
@@putontheseglasses8809 I'd apologize but thinking you have a special gift when God favors no man is pride, so there is that.
I can discern from your ministry that you are charging $150 for a bogus meeting to teach people false doctrines. You might as well teach people how to write horoscopes. Cold reading is not a righteous teaching.
and you know this because you are accurately using the gifts of the spirit.
@@paulc7190 I'm using the gift of there being no proof whatsoever.
@@iamgettingsoold and printing material, hiring venues, etc is free.
The Bible isn't in the Bible so the Bible is unbiblical. Say that three times fast. I'm sure you're full of bad doctrine.
I think you are misrepresenting them with this comment. They are putting on a pretty large conference that lasts multiple days and the $150 is the cost to register and attend. Most conferences cost a lot of money because they have to pay for the venue, food, tech and lighting services etc. It always bothers me that whenever a Christian leader or teacher charges money for ANYTHING they are accused of money grabbing or scamming people. As far as the soundness of their doctrine is concerned I would ask that you be more specific. I have never once heard them teach true cold reading, unless you’re using a different definition of that term. I have watched these guys for a long time and have seen them get things wrong, apologize, change their mind when new info is discovered, etc. they seem to be acting in good faith but certainly they aren’t perfect. Should I assume by your comment that all your beliefs are 100% accurate and able to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt through scripture?
Very little understanding that the only true translation is the KJV, so using here a little and there a little, is the only Biblical way to come to Truth
Why is the only true translation the KJV? What do Christians do who can't understand English?
At this point, with it’s archaic language, KJV is probably one of the worst translation that we have.
KJV onlyism comes dangerously close to idolatry at times.