I wish they’d had him go back to the slums and bring offerings to his old friends. Like Miguel insists on putting up an ofrenda for the people who were forgotten and gets donations from the neighborhood to fill it with offerings. That would’ve given a message about helping where you can and caring for people who are down on their luck even if it doesn’t completely change the system.
According to the rules of the movie, though, Miguel putting up an ofrenda for the forgotten people still wouldn't help to save them from being forgotten. Otherwise Hector would have been saved as soon as Miguel got back to the land of the living. They had to be remembered by someone who knew them in life. That's why he had to get Coco to remember Hector, because she was the last living person who knew him in life. However, the idea of Hector & the other Riveras going back to the slums and helping out the people there is wonderful and I could imagine it happening, although from a storytelling perspective I think it would have been hard to fit into the movie without reworking a lot of the ending; it would throw off the pacing & rhythm. So they chose to go for the big emotional moment of triumph for Hector rather than spending time wrapping up those loose ends.
@@Dachusblot that's because it's not a loose end, the message that the film is trying to convey is that the people who are still alive must remember and pass the memory of the people who passed away, the problem is not that they cannot pass to the other side and receive the offerings, the problema is being forgotten. I am Mexican and the important thing about this tradition is to remember, and the film from beginning to end is spent all the time saying and emphasizing the importance of the living remembering the people that passed away. For that reason, it would not make sense to change this aspect of their society, this is what will drive people to remember and want to do something to be remembered.
@@jasdd2967 Next to my grandmother's grave, there's one that obviously hasn't been visited in years, so I've started buying one extra candle to put it on that one, since I know noone else will
@@yellowteaspoond5507 dianey did not make the phrase hakuna matata is a very common often used swahili phrase in many eastern countries in africa such as kenya and uganda
I'm not Mexican and when i first saw Coco I was questioning why you would need a picture for an offering to be valid. Like "how did people celebrate this tradition before cameras then?"
You gotta remember mexico has only existed for about 400 years. Most of the modern mexican culture only popped up in the last 200. Before mexico you had Aztec and dozens of other smaller civiliations with vastly different cultures that diluted and mixed with Catholistm. Technology also greatly efffects culture, just like how modern concept of weddings with glamouras gowns and diamond rings only became main stream in the last century.
@@notsans9995 And how memes are so prevalent in today's culture, ask somebody to find a cultural zeitgeist for the 2000's and onwards, and some popular videos and images will probably pop into their brains.
@@notsans9995you are wrong, that tradition existed far before the spanish people came, there is evidence of this celebration from totonaca, mexica, purépecha and maya.
My first take on the ending was that Miguel would grow up and old hella stressed trying to make sure that every member of his family (and his friends etc) would have a photo and be remembered, and get stories from everyone he could to try to keep as many present in the land of the dead as possible. Basically here is the beginning of Miguel's anxiety disorder and desperate attempt to personally remember literally everyone who has died.
ironically that is also very reminiscent of the experience with border systems, if i want my kids to travel i have to work a lot so they have a good live and can have good connections, if my friends want to get a visa i would try to help all of them get the documents they need and i myself would try to look as righteous and wealthy as i could
Head canon time: he starts writing a book with short chapters that are each just short stories from a sertin persons life, at the end of the chapter there is a picture of that person, like Miguel just becomes a famous wrighter and gets people remembered by the entire world
yeah only he can solve the wealth inequality of the dead world where we literally witness characters dying from malnourishment like. kind of a heavy responsibility
As someone who’s family came from central america and they celebrate día de los muertos.....i saw a lot my community find it bad that a photo was necessary for the ofrenda in the movie...my family was so poor and suffered through war that they didn’t have pictures of themselves until the 90s
@@lpsfankanr1 I mean... that's the problem with shorthand as writers. If we use a shortcut carelessly, we can often create a message and path that we didn't intend to. Intent matters, but it doesn't matter as much as the actual impact. People internalize that shorthand and lose the nuance overtime. That's how we end up with a society believing a systemic issue is just a matter of people not trying hard enough. After all, every inspirational story shows a hero winning against similar odds purely by a but of pluck and determination. If you can't win, you didn't try hard enough. Words are weapons, and a weapon fired recklessly can injure the innocent.
Yes! I thought about this, like poor people who can't afford camera phones (or the cost of cameras, film, and development back in the day), orphans who have no family to put up their pictures, the recluses who only interact with their mail carrier and food/essentials delivery drivers, even people who just think taking pictures is bad juju. Do drawings suffice for some of those people, and how good do the drawings have to be?
@@amiraameera8302 ignoring the social context completely, just in the fantasy setting obviously a drawing must suffice, or no one from before like 1880 could cross over. it seems like the system has been in place for way longer than 150 years so probably any representation deliberately meant to be that individual would work
Well, we do see background characters in the movie from times where photographs weren't even a thing, most seemingly wealthy too (I'm sure I saw what I could assume to be a tlatoani). So I think it's safe to assume there are alternatives like using misc. illustrations representing the person (ranging from a child's drawing of a family member to paintings from back when) or maybe even written names.
I feel like, as someone from England, I don't even really experience `hardships` when travelling apart from some minor stress that relates far more to my personal problem of just getting stressed easily. This is especially because English is my first language and it's shoved down people's throats in so many other countries, so I don't even have language issues most of the time. It's so unfair that other people get judged so harshly just because the system and the workers under it are so prejudiced; while I do feel very fortunate that due to my circumstances I've never experienced or even fully known the horrors of this harsh reality, it makes me so angry that people suffer because of it.
This dude posted a trilogy of genuinely very insightful high quality essays about topics that you don't really see discussed by many else and then just straight up vanished.
I find it interesting that the Book of Life, the movie most people compared to Coco, completely removed the border control concept and just made a fantastic fantasy world inspired by the traditional settings, not the modern one.
I think ot was directed by a Mexican director that had done other Mexican related projects before, I think the guy in this movie is too but Im not sure about it, maybe it was a Pixar edition...who knows, but you guys have never seen Las aventuras de Manny Rivera? The guy who made it made the book of life too.
Yooo the book of life was lowkey inaccurate to Mexican culture, I remember watching it and being like are they representing Spanish or Mexican culture ?✨confusion✨ ooof I really hated that film though
It’s great how redundant the border patrol is, given how the bridge works. It is quite an odd obsession some writers have with “recreating modern reality within a fantasy surreal setting”. Such a bizarre obsession.
I got the impression that the border patrol is there to fish people out the bridge, and also to double-check what they bring back (got anything to declare?) to make sure they weren't stealing.
@@Regfife wouldn't the magic bridge check for stolen goods and couldn't it (again, the *magic* bridge) just make the person sink then get them back to the other side? It's a fictional setting, love.
When Coco came out in Mexican theaters, I had a talk with a cousin, or rather an argument. She said that what the film taught the new generations, especially the Mexican ones, was very wrong, because never, NEVER did anyone tell us "you have to put the photo in the offering so that your grandfather comes to visit us", of course not They never told us that, the offering always worked with or without a photo, the intention with which you put it for the person is what counts. In a way, Pixar literally almost completely changed the whole ideal of this celebration just by putting it in the context of "the photo is important." It is not true, the important thing is the intention. What about offerings to people you want to dedicate but don't have a photo at hand? Or did you lose it? Or just disappeared? The intention was very sidelined. Just for that, I have a conflict as a Mexican, with the film. Yes, it's pretty good, and I cried and all that, but I think that was not quite right
@@sherlockgirl1234 I don’t remember the ending too well so I could be wrong, but did the photo ever actually come into play with the offering? What got Coco to ultimately remember Héctor was his song to her, after all.
I noticed this too. I loved the whole family part and perphaps this is why I don't mind much about the picture thing, the family aspect seemed to me like the "heart" of the film. But what you say is true. One thing I have noticed in a lot of American films is that they lean towards "hard magic systems" with highly specfic rules and systems. Día de Muertos, being a very syncretic tradition and being different in every single state of the country, is very far from having such a strict set of rules. It has a lot of symbolisms from prehispanic cultures but even those are varied. Still gotta admit I loved the film!
I'm Mexican and went to see the movie with my mom, I very clrearly remember when that scene came on, she (very loudly) said "oh come on! not even dead can we get rid of the fuckin migra" it felt weird, specially since that same year we applied for an American Visa and was the most horrifying, degrading and soul sucking experience of our lifes. Like we got it but we were the only ones in the group of 30 we went with, and only because we had a house ir our names, the representative even said so "no property no visa" freackin thanks dad for dying when I was 1 and leaving the house in our name, without your timely sacrifice we wouldn't have been able to go to fuckin Disneyland.
@@Gaiwen_Li Yes, thanks ha! I'm usually not this bitter is just the video ingited some bad experiences. I loved the film in the end it's about family and all that, I still cry every time I rewatch it. My whole family loves it too.
@@ErikAo5o4 yes, but is still really weird and an unfair requirement, I mean I don't have a property and I still have a lot of reasons to return to my country when I go on vacation. Even having the money to afford what is for me an expensive vacation abroad, I am no being able to buy a house in my country (Argentina) even if I save my hole salary for the rest of my life.
When the trailer for Elemental came out, someone on Twitter called Pixar's movies "Capitalist realism on a theological level" and it really stuck in my brain. Once you start to notice how much our imaginations have been limited to how society is currently organized it becomes scary. Both the writers of Coco and the audience are supposed to just take it for granted that even in what's basically heaven, *of course* there's still gonna be a rich/poor divide, cops and immigration border control.
Imagination being limited by the society you live in is something that happened since the first tribes thought, but i'm still glad that you realized it , since is always good to realize these sort of things no matter how late
Considering Elemental is suppose to be a metaphor for/commentary on Immigration (seemingly Immigration to America) it kind of makes sense in that context to depict the Border Control and Rich/Poor, no?
I feel like the difference between Coco and Elemental is that Elemental at the very least draws upon inspiration from the creator, who's Korean-American.
When I was 11 my grandmother and I wanted to cross the border to visit her family. The border patrol stopped us and looked up our passports. My grandma had "been arrested in 1988" in Texas. My grandmother was in Mexico that year and has NEVER even been to Texas. And when I, an 11 year old, "threatened their authority" by saying that it was the first time we've ever heard of that and just the week prior we were able to go cross the border, the woman decided we were "probably hiding something" and proceeded to make us stay in that place for 5 hours without letting me call my mom because "I could be saying dangerous stuff to her". Remember I was 11. In the end they took our visa away and even laughed in our face. I've tried to get a visa after that, but I've been denied because my mother doesn't have a visa, I am now 22 years old, why does it matter that my mother has has a visa
WTF is wrong with these people. 11 year old saying dangerous stuff. hahahhahahaahahah Out of my usual goofery tho, why does the border control keep hiring people with the detective skills of half a carrot and the intelligence of a waterballon in the middle of Sahara.
I'm Puerto Rican , by birth we have american citizenship and american passports.The first time I visited the US I was held for 3½ hours because the TSA kept saying I needed a passport even though PR isn't a different country , I had my real id and all the necessary paperwork. It's a territory. A colony in all but name. It's treated as domestic. it's like going from DC to Maryland. After hours an airline representative had to be called to confirm that I was *indeed a citizen* and I was allowed to continue , worst experience I've ever had.
re: the poor woman who was suspected of being a drug mule. that used to happen to me a lot when i was in college because i 1) travel with very little luggage, 2) traveled a lot, and 3) have ADHD and tend to act oddly in stressful situations (touching my hair constantly, picking my nails, doing the same action to my clothes or jewelry over and over). it usually didn't go farther than just getting my things searched multiple times and taking longer to go through security, but yeah. it's real.
Same to all three points. I travel often between Spain and Italy with a third-world-country passport, and you would think since these flights are within the Schengen zone then everything should be fine but no. I've had my luggage checked so many times that I got used to account for one extra hour of "random checks" when planning my transportation to and from the airport.
I never connected my neurodivergence with the way I was being treated at checkpoints and by cops, but it makes it make a lot more sense. Doesn't make it any less stupid, though, and there isn't much I can do about my ADHD, DID, Anxiety, and Depression symptoms, but maybe I will be able to manage the situation better armed with this knowledge. Also, I don't get what the issue is with taking only a small amount of luggage with you on a trip is? I don't want to pay baggage fees. If I can't carry it on, it's not going. :shrug:
As somebody with ADHD myself, any situation where I'm being judged for how "normal" I'm acting is downright terrifying for me. I don't act "normal" on a good day, add the stress of some unknown consequence and I probably look like an absolute nutter
He rrally did! I been checking since this one came out every week now every couple months i come to check on this to. Still nothing but oo the feel good opression one is a banger tht keeps making me come back
As a Hispanic American, I loved Coco with everything in me when it came out. This video was a slap to the face, but a much needed one. No one deserves this god awful treatment, and I cannot thank you enough for opening my eyes to it.
I completely agree with this comment (I'm also Hispanic too). ^^ I didn't realize this either, despite knowing of people struggling to come to the U.S. (my grandma had to wait for ages for her Visa to visit) or trying to fix their situation in the U.S. But this is a good video on Coco. :)
I'm latina and I really did get wrapped up in the feel-good narrative. I'm disappointed I didn't notice any sooner, but glad this showed up in my recommended
Happened to me too, this hurt. I guess, when you're just used to being treated unfairly daily in an unfair system, any sort of kindness (like a movie that focuses on your traditions and not on your violence problems for once) feels so much like a breath of fresh air you cling to it, feeling gratitude towards people who were willing to look to your good side for once. You just stop noticing all the wrongs until someone from the exterior points it out and tells you that's not normal. But then again, it's disheartening when you remember people can only look at your good side by forgetting or burying all your flaws.
I think you Finally put into words why I’ve always had trouble with the whole “it’s just Ernesto’s fault” plot. I didn’t fully notice it, but my brain did.
I've never liked the entire Ernesto plot angle and resolution. Though my issues with it were never based upon the inequality aspect in this society or the border control issues here (hell, as an American I hadn't even thought to analyze the border control aspects of this fantastic video). It was always about how he doesn't ACTUALLY ever have any consequences. Yea, the people in the afterlife hate him for that year and probably wont see his concert the next year, but he's still obscenely wealthy and his lifestyle doesn't actually have to change. People are still going to party it up at his rich mansion in the after life, just like they would with rich people alive. People are still buying his albums and visiting his grave site in the real world. It's nice that Hector's museum of who wrote the songs was ADDED to the community so he could get some recognition, but Ernesto was the one in the movies, selling the records, went on concert tours, he was the face of the entire operation. His albums are still selling. It's his face on others' ofrendas. He's the Mexican version of Elvis. How many people STILL in 2020 worship Elvis and how many ACTUALLY KNOW the black artists who wrote the songs he stole? Elvis is still king. And Ernesto had 0 consequences. Nothing changed outside of the immediate family - and then only really for the dead characters.
An interesting note I took away from this movie: "Due to popular culture and 'separating artist from art', Ernesto while ostricized, will forever live on because there will be at least one fan that put his music on the ofrenda
Well, I mean, yea... but is being trapped under a bell for all eternity really a good fate? Also, even if he got out, everyone hates him, so he'd probably just live in the slums or worse.
@@Sofia-re3hj Yea I guess, but he'd probably be pretty messed up after being stuck under that bell for so long. Probably would have some serious mental issues he'd struggle with for awhile, especially since he was already unstable enough to kill his best friend for his songs.
I get your point but it wasn't that he was just a bad person it was also that it WASN'T his art. You can't separate the artist from the art if that person isn't the actual artist that created it. I guess peopld could like his version of it but idk if they'd "remember" him in a way that keeps him on top in the afterlife
Yeah even Infamous people are still widely remembered. EG Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Ted Bundy, etc. And it's just so sad that we remember the perpetrators more than the victim.
The game “Papers Please” is so good at addressing the concept of border control and how stupid it is. If you liked this video you should definitely play it
It's great too, cause it'll throw things at you which make you feel like what you're doing is justified, then a curveball will be thrown your way showing you why having to check 50 different papers just exacerbates the problem.
Crossing a border used to be as simple as just walking across it. No one needed all this BS simply to step on an identical patch of earth that happens to be an invisible border of a country, a concept that only exists in human imagination. It's baffling to me.
don’t forget disney tried to trademark “dia de los muertos”. (and successfully trademarked “hakuna matata”) edit: damn this blowed up. the highest grossing theatre musical of all time is the lion king and disney still managed to botch the "live action" remake
Can you imagine having a loved one in a different country and it turns out they had an accident and are in critical condition or have a terminal illness? You can't even be by their side at those moments.
As a Mexican, I did enjoy Coco, along with my mother, but I did feel uncomfortable with SOMETHING in the film but I couldn't pin point it. Now I get it. Putting the real world discrimination in a fantasy realm, especially something my family has faced before, felt so off. Kinda sinister. Especially with the Border parallels in which I've had unfortunate experiences. And the system of the pictures=passport Id thing was weird. The ofrenda itself is something beyond monetary gain or some worldy value. It's about gratitude and love for the people who are no longer here.
@@MsCrowRaven de acuerdo a lo que sé, la gente con foto o no viene, para eso está la vela, para que encuentren una luz que los guíe de vuelta. También, la luz sirve para invitar a personas que no están en tu ofrenda y "pasen a comer", incluso si no son de tu familia. Eso me explicó mi madre :p
Disney/Pixar's first choice for depicting Mexican culture is... border control? And a main character illegally and literally border jumping. How nice of them.
but there is a choice in which part of real life they want to imitate@@RealSnuuy , as pointed out in the movies "this is the way things are" would be more justifiable if intead of police the system was just magic, the skeletons live as long as they are remembered and they can only come to the real world if someone wants them to come, no police, border control or slums were necessary
Y eso? Cuando la fui a ver al cine no pensé en eso, más bien me impresionó la interpretación del mundo de los muertos con influencias de principio del siglo XX en México
11:00 Literally saw this tweet pointing out the exact same thing days ago by @anildash: “Most of what gets shared as heartwarming stories are usually temporary, small-scale responses to systemic failures. I wish we found it just as inspirational to make structural changes to unjust systems, but I don’t know if our culture knows how to tell those stories.” So true. We’re not ready for a real systemic change... it’s like society doesn’t wanna admit it has systemic problems. It can’t face it so they celebrate the scarce micro individual successful stories because it makes you feel things aren’t as bad and keeps you from having to deal with the problem.
Ok. I finished the video..... great work on a topic that needs to be talked about. Would also like to point out that these systems are so normalized that when you call out what’s wrong about them people look at you as some lunatic. It’s hard having these conversations because many aren’t willing to hear something so unpleasant because they haven’t been affected by it - and even sometimes those who are affected by the system the worst learn to excuse it as a coping mechanism because they don’t know anything better to compare it with (kinda like not knowing what dirty water you’ve been swimming in your whole life until you get out of it). Alright I’m done. This shit is painful.
By any chance, have you read "The Soul of Man Under Socialism" by Oscar Wilde? It has much the same argument, arguing that the issue with charity is that it papers over problems instead of solving them. Wilde argued, "Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good." So it seems this concern is not new, and maybe it'd help to read the previous arguments people have made on the subject?
It's like when you see those "uplifting" stories on the news - "10 year old decides to open lemonade stand to help pay for mother's cancer treatment" - and everyone in the comments is saying how inspirational and heartwarming it is. But that should NOT be heartwarming. A young child shouldn't have to worry about how their mother will pay for treatment, and that mother shouldn't have to worry about going into debt so that she can LIVE. Just as you quoted, it's a small-scale response to systemic failures. No one should have to worry about either going into medical debt or dying. No one should die or have to be ill without treatment in this country because they cannot afford healthcare. It's ridiculous that there are so many in this country that have become desensitized to the absolute injustice of our current healthcare system. How can we not see that it's a human right and not a privilege??
Part 3 gave me anxiety just listening to it all... I'm lucky because I'm American, but have had airport staff initially act weirdly because I look Chinese, but once they see my obviously not-Chinese/Asian name and realize I'm Asian-AMERICAN, they suddenly change their attitude. This was the same in Japan too, where I was taken out of the line I was in and lined up in a separate line with who seemed to be solely SE Asians, Indians, etc., and once they saw my passport, escorted me back to the line I was previously in - and not in the back, but back to where I had been standing initially... I didn't think much of it until now.
This happened to me when I was in Europe: I am average height and Black. I get hard stares from the immigration patrol. But as soon as the immigration sees my passport- "Welcome friend!"
Shit, now that I think about it immigration does get a lot more friendly with me when they see me with my German passport or hear me speaking English/German/French fluently than the moments before when they just see someone with brown skin... never really thought about it before. Just goes to show how privileged we are in that aspect
I'm peruvian. I never travel before, but my grandma try to get the visa two times before. They didn't give her the visa. I feel sad everytime i remember it, cuz she just want to see her sister and family again. Hopefuly she would get the visa someday. As for me..i don't know how, but someday i gonna get out of here. Whatever it takes.
This happened to my family when we were coming back from Colombia. We went there to visit family of course, and my parents, sister and I are all US citizens, my parents originally being citizens of Colombia and Cuba. So of course we were in the US citizens line among a lot of white people coming in from Colombia too. We were the ONLY ONES pulled out from the line, and it took like 40 minutes for them to check all our passports to assure that yes we were all in fact, US citizens. Our passports were real, we were in the right line, and no we didn’t have fruit on us. I was pissed and kinda sassed the customs officers. I was like 15-16 years old so they all laughed at me and it made me even more angry, that they laughed at my anger and fear for pulling us out of line, only us, checking our passports, and really not explaining what they were doing after they had finished and sent us off to get back in line! Or they might have taken us to the front, I don’t remember anymore. it took them at least 30 minutes for them to get my disabled dad a chair, and some of the officers were Hispanic and talked to us in Spanish! Systemic racism is real and even something like an American passport doesn’t save hyphenated Americans of other ethic backgrounds from it.
I am a white passing girl, with a middle eastern name, born and raised in the middle east but moved to Europe now to help my grandmother. The amount of relief i see in officials faces when they see my "vaguely very middle eastern name" belongs to a white girl has been quite startling. I have been taken in by border controls once because "name and appearance don't seem to really fit together" . they had to call my teacher who had to vouch that yes. The girl in custody is her student. Yes, her first name is not european, but as you see she speaks over 3 languages, is about to go to university and is 100% an okay member of our civilization. I never felt more humiliated tbh. They also grew suspicious because I had 2 passports ( European Country vs Middle east ) and holy shit. I nearly cried out of relief coming out of there and got my teacher a huge bouquet of flowers : to her it was a mildly interesting thing that happened like "haha officials" to me it was "a young girl of 16, surrounded by 5 grown men, in one tiny room" I was soso terrified
@@lafea7364 osea que todas y cada una de las personas de color, incluso familias, son terroristas? Si no, no entiendo la obsesión con registrar meticulosamente cada persona que no sea blanca, que por cierto, no significa que no haya ningún blanco terrorista. Por la culpa de unos pocos sufren muchos, y así funciona el racismo, piensan que porque un grupo de personas de otro país son malas, eso convierte a toda esa sociedad en peligrosa. Y si encima tienen que hacerles más controles de los que YA HACEN (porque no creas que no controlan a todos por igual desde un principio), entonces tiene que ser por sospechas reales y no porque tú nombre o apellido es "diferente" o por tu pasaporte. La misma chica que escribió arriba tenía 16 años cuando pasó por todo eso, acaso piensan que una sola persona y menor de edad puede remotamente llegar a ser terrorista?
@@incanusolorin2607 They are trying to save the brown people from themselves! Letting them know to "be less brown" lol. The privileged will create and believe any excuse to keep the systems that favor them in place.
Spaghetti that may help you sleep at night but don't kid yourself. For Western countries people of MENA origin don't actually present greater danger than actual white people
My cousins once asked why they always visited us from America, rather than us going to visit them. My parents just told them, “there’s more family here,” but when I was eleven I understood there’s more to it than that. It’s really frivkin expensive to go to the US from India, rather than the other way round.
I'm from Venezuela so I was impressed by how close it hit me your experience in airports, I know I should be proud of my country and bla bla bla but sometimes I would like to know how it feels being completely relaxed because "I have the documents correct" and not being anxious because any tiny detail could send me to jail even if I have all my documents right
I feel the same, I am from Venezuela too. I have a huge fear of getting send to “el cuartico” ,like my family calls it, to be interrogated and even in statewide trips I can’t shake the fear of being deported.
When you wrote “I know I should feel proud of my country and bla bla bla but...” it really hit me. If the reality explained in this video isn’t bad enough, another horrible side of it is that most third world countries internalize that feeling of inferiority. I’m from Mexico and it destroys me every time someone feels superior because of our closeness to the U.S and not for our actual culture .
I have this, I feel shouldn't have because White, because I'm HoH and freshly found out autistic. That's why I find these situations stressful. I feel like I'll mishear a question (easy for me to do when I'm not tuned into an unfamiliar voice and/or accent), say yes and end up with 12 guns in my face. And that's my final answer. I cannot ask them to repeat the question and give the correct one because Too Late. I don't feel I have the ability or time to stand there for a few extra seconds and process anything said to me, I just have to know what they said and give the correct answer immediately first time. But honestly I can't imagine the anxiety it gives to hearing neurotypical peeps of different ethnicities who travel a lot more than I do, given the societal pre-programmed(????) nonsense we tend to be given in a lot of countries? And also I'm Brit. So I dunno what that does for me. I can't follow the stereotype whatever it is besides having my Ps and Qs. (Manners basically.)
yeah, my parents are from venezuela and when we travelled my dad got sent to what my mom called el cuartito and he spent the entire trip nervous and telling me to act american(?) so we wouldn’t get deported, he’s always gotten suspiciously checked and he was interviewed, it really blew my mind cause it was my first time traveling and my friend (white ofc) told me the airport was fun
@@rebeccadroplet5953 yeah and we have internalized it so much that we say stuff like "saquenme de latinoamerica" (get me out of latinoamerica) on a daily basis, my country is in an economic crisis and we can't blame the pandemic because we are paying for decisions that were made more than 50 years ago! And decisions that corrupt people keep making
The portrayal of this mexican tradition from a very individualistic american perspective shows that although research was made superficially, I think it lacks depth about how mexican society works. There is actually a specific ofrenda for those who weren't given one by their families which is the "ofrenda del alma sola" (lonely soul) and with this, the worldbuilding crumbles. I find this specially worrying because with more and more mexican people who watch it and incorporate it to the tradition's lore, our culture erodes and rituals like these begin to fade and leaves it vulnerable to companies to exploit it. The glowing petals were cool tho
I don't see how this addresses the plot. There are still people who wouldnt specifically make it onto that ofrenda. Also, culture changes. Movies always have had this power, even in their own culture.
For real. Unfortunately most people won't be willing to listen or understand how fundamentaly problematic these films are. Either because of nostalgia or fear from 'pc culture'
The rules of the world are not arbitrary though-it’s set by a real life culture so of course the system cannot be changed as that would require undermining Mexican practices. Sorry the movie wasn’t as revolutionary as you’d like 🙃
Saggy Old Bagpuss no one was asking for a revolutionary ending and also who sets these “rules of the world,” you say it’s set by real life culture, so is it culture that decides which country this passport has access to or human culture that sets up border control
All of my brown friends get "randomly selected" for airport searches whether it's a domestic or international flight. When we would travel together, they'd use me as a white shield, making it clear that we were travel companions, and it actually kind of worked. It's disgusting. One of my friends was suicidal for half of his public school career because he was bullied for being a "terrorist" because of his skin color. The only instance of unnecessary screening I've seen of a white person is this one guy I went on a trip with in high school. He was slightly tan for a white person and apprently he had the misfortune of having the most generic name ever which meant it was a common pseudonym for terrorists with fake papers so he'a permanently on a watch list. Meanwhile, I totally took souveniers that I fully knew I wasn't allowed to back from Guatemala, safe in the knowledge that the worst they were going to do was confiscate them, which they didn't because my bags weren't searched
9/11 left a lot of people with so much prejudice against certain ethnicities (especially towards people from the Middle East) that this stuff happens. I get being cautious but “random selection” is total bs.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator why would you even write this ? I mean, of course you have the right, but i do not understand the point. What he wrote doesn't seem fake, why would he say it otherwise ? Maybe it is uncommon where you're from, or maybe you aren't concerned and fail to see it. People have empathy, you know, and they might feel genuinely sorry if something negative happens to their friends, or to people in general who didn't deserve it.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator this is the internet. there is no obligation to reply to everything. people do not offer their condolences for "image" because there is inherently no risk in inaction
it frustrates me how i need so many things to go to "first-world" countries while they can just waltz in ours so easily. the lengths you have to go through to just go for a vacation is nuts
.I come from a small country that has been NATO's buffer against Russia since the 90s. It's clear that we will be the ones to die so that Germany and France are kept safe. My countrymen fought alongside Americans in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Yet we only got a US tourist visa under Trump (ironically). It was so humiliating to be denied that right by so many different American presidents. You won't travel here, peasants. This is where privilege really shows. Don't listen to the BS about tolerance and freedom they are spouting, look at their actions instead. That you can die for America's interests but you cannot visit. Yet Americans can travel to my country any time they want without visas.
Honestly, I'm sorry. It's devastating, I didn't actually know this happened. As a white person from a first world country, when we have the money, it's easy to go on holiday. I'm not rich, so we don't go often, but I can't imagine how much harder it is to have even more restrictions.
Don't mean to spread hate or toxicity, But the comment above me just reminds me of the consistent clip playing across the video of the random Skeleton woman wondering how it feels to not have a photo. It feels so embarrassing when people first world countries gawk at our troubles and could only look at it and say "Oh, I'm sorry it must be hard for you". There's nothing "sorries" and "it must be hard for you" can do to help anymore.
yeah dude. pretty much how you can count in one hand the alien races in fiction that aren't humanoid, don't speak english and have a culture that doesn't resemble ours. it's sad but creating things is harder than transforming them.
I just remembered one thing. That woman is Honduran. Before Spain entered the EU, it had a multilateral agreement with all the countries in Latin America. all citizens were allowed without visa for 30 days. The program was cancelled under pressure from other countries in the EU. I don't think it changes the terrible treatment the woman had to unjustly endure, but it goes to show how this things are completely arbitrary. That woman 50 years ago could come to Spain no visa needed for 30 days. Now she can barely enter for three days with police and border control treating her like garbage. Why is this a thing?
as someone from a country from the eu, im glad to be part of it for some reasons, but also fucking hate the eu for shit like this. If only they were fucking consistent with making sane, good decisions, rather than being contradictory all the damn time...
@@killme6715 one thing I've noticed is that it's always so stupid seeing one EU country do something so arbitrary, like with what Orban did by lying about allowing refugees and immigrants only to expel them out of the blue, what the hell did he expect by doing that????
@@killme6715As EU is made up of dozens of countries with different immigration policies there must be compromises and sometimes those have quite negative consequences like the mentioned Spanish problem But things can always be improved and Union changed lives of many for the better Where I am from 30 years ago trying to leave the country will get me shot. Now I can go anywhere in EU I want
I work in an immigration law office and the requirements for ANYTHING are so damn ridiculous it takes MONTHS just to get everything together Clients (particularly the American born spouses) get so upset at me and my coworkers for being so specific and asking for so much when we in fact know that if even one thing is missing they will send back all the paperwork without even looking at it Even visas for your biological family are a nightmare of paperwork, fees and waiting (often years) and keep in mind this is IN the United States often with American born individuals trying to get their families here or just come for a vist. Not only that but recently due to SOMEONE in office the requirements have become more outrageous and even longer. I graduated college, speak English fluently and I was born here but I guarantee there is no way I would be able to do a single application without having prior knowledge from my job
When I’m older I REALLY want to be a lawyer and work in immigration law. Just reading this is breaking my heart :(. I find it horrible that so much in the system is so unjust just because of the color of our skin and where we were born.
My family was blessed to have my uncle. He was a lawyer who helped my dad, grandma, and many other relatives get their papers. I wish I could help other families in the way he did because it took me too long to realize how lucky we were.
While I hate being one of those people, immigration law needs to be strict to ensure we know who is in our borders, how long, and why. With a country as prosperous as the U.S. there are many people who want to come, some with good intentions, some with bad. Marriage fraud and family visits are sadly common ways to get people in illegally (sometimes for human trafficking). And even among those with good intentions we can't take everyone. The world has more poor and unfortunate people than the US could ever support. It's not fair to people who are here legally to lose opportunities because someone else skipped the process and it actually causes resentment between legal and illegal immigrants. We need to know if the person coming in is in a drug cartel or if they actually have family, and if they have family that they are actually going to return home after the visit. Is it way too convoluted and needs to be simplified? YES. But many of those rules are in place largely because immigration crimes are so common. - child of a legal immigrant
That sucks, I'm a white man born in Canada with an american last name, of course its going to go smoothly went I'm gonna move there. But I can't imagine how hard it must be for some, but do understand Americans are really proud of their country and protective of their territory because of history
@@Psychesrose Calling a human being illegal is immoral and supports an us vs them mentally. Don't fall for it. You can say you are a child of a legal immigrant but frankly that's irrelevant. What our parents had to do to come here to start a new life is NOTHING like what anyone has to do now. I know people who have crossed the desert and nearly died to see their children again because everyone knows getting to the United States legally is a joke. You and I are a couple of the luckiest people in the world. Had we been born a few years later we could have very different lives. If you hate being one of "those people" just dont be.
The most tragic thing about Coco’s ending is that is actually perfectly represents the inabilities of Latin American societies to change their ways of life and topple injust hierarchies. So in a way, your video actually captures an essential part of Latin American literature which is the never ending cycle of conservative modernizations (which in itself is a pleonasm, but a powerful one nonetheless) and the failing to truly ever change. This is a big thing in Brazilian literature, and directly connects with the insistence of maintaining social privileges derived from the old slavery system, in such a way that it was never really torn down. What we are left with is, on the contrary, a negative synthesis in which the opposing parts end up settling for the same thing they originally had. That’s devious, obviously, and it’s no wonder it is so unsettling in a movie, just like you perfectly describe.
@Lexdrillo in Brazil, the amazing way our president was elected was by acting like your old uncle drinking bear and sitting in the sofa saying homophobic shit and dumb jokes.
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God, this is gutwrenching. As a hopeless brazilian with no perspective for the future, I feel seen by this video and it's comments.
That's exactly it. I don't think the fact that the system itself doesn't change is a bad idea, since "victory" in Latin America for the middle and lower classes is appearing to be better in the eyes of the system. Everyone hopes that one day the system will be different, but that change never comes, so you better try to do the best you can with what you have, that way you won't have it as hard as the others. Society is constantly telling us that society itself isn't the one that has to put in the effort, but us, and we are promised that if we work as hard as we can, we will someday be benefitted by that same society that once turned its back to us. The bad part doesn't go away when you succeed, you just stop living it.
Probably would have been better if Coco’s ending wasn’t handled as if it was a completely happy and positive one. But that’s not the sort of ending kids and their parents have come to expect from Pixar, and I’m not sure if the guys at Pixar were comfortable having anything less than a happy ending in a story about a real culture different from their own, which I think is a sign that they at least tried to have good intentions.
talkng about Brazil specifically, the "progress" only related to optics is so ingrained in our culture, its since the colonization. when we stopped being a colony, it was bc the Portuguese royal family needed to run away for a while. when we became independent, it was still a monarchy run by Dom Pedro. when we became a republic, coronelismo was still rampant. then just a few decades later we had the Vargas dicatorship. and a few decades later another dictatorship. these systems are so long standing, i can see why theyre treated as "natural"
As a Latin American 13 year old that had the luck of learning fluid English at a young age I always had to translate whenever we had to cross a border. I remember how the police would judge us before they knew I could understand them. It was honestly really scary hearing them talk about how we were missing one paper and then my parents asking me what they were saying. I tried my hardest to not translate their judgement for them but I knew they could tell.
You are not alone. I too was lucky to learn english at a young age, but that came with the task of being a translator for your family. The pressure that came with understanding the importance of translating accurately for the sake of everyone was tough. I'm so happy my mom has greatly improved her english and I have another sibling who can help.
Same, my mom doesnt know a bit of english The guys in immigration always said mean stuff, how Mexicans are lazy and mooch off America, among other things, certainly not stuff that I fully grasped as a child I just translated what I understood, o was just trying to help my mom, but even then they made fun of her for relying on a child
this is so relatable, the pressure of being the one (in my case, i was also the youngest) kid in the family with the bilingual skills and translate everything for everyone at every single waking point during a vacation or other issues is real. I'm an adult now but have travelled with my family fairly regularly since I moved for college, and my parents still rely on me to be their translator. I don't want this to sound ungrateful because I do thank them for the education they provided for me, and I know how valuable it is. It's just that sometimes it's too much stress and pressure and I'm also not a professional translator so sometimes I'm not the best at translating on the spot. And I think that's a problem many friends have also gone through, we are not professionals/are not trained in the field and being a translator is an actual job/career path that people train themselves for, so it's bound to be mentally exhausting for us family translators lol
The whole process of immigrating to Canada with a study permit as a Latin American was such an awful experience that I'm convinced it actually traumatized me in some way. Just remembering it is enough to get my anxiety going. Great video, by the way.
@@Hi-jw7oqWe had open borders, but that was before 2001 and that was only with the US, unfortunately. It's easy for Americans and Europeans to migrate here. It's also fairly easy if you are married to someone born in Canada.
@@joecrazy9896You have to remember that these people see consent as something they don't have to receive. It only exists as something they can offer to others.
@@hannalowercase5928 ok, easy: everybody and their brother hops on youtube with critiques. The poster is both self-derogatory but tries to use very surface sociological lenses to interpret the movie. It is about the easiest thing to rant for 30 minutes about the scan scene and the offrenda wealth, comparing it to modern policing and income inequality. But he did basically over and over again, becoming pedantic if you already read about and study daily economic articles. This video might be mind-blowing for a 13 year old though.
I mean... I don't wanna sound like a dick or anything, but I just burst out laughing at how ridiculously bullshit it is. And how the fucking TV show frames it as like a sensible, morally just thing to do. It's insane.
BRRRO I'M NIGERIAN AS WELL. My gosh I cant tell you what travelling is like with that green passport. Its like everyone thinks I wanna scam them. Like no I just want to get on my flight in peace. This is why most time I use my American passport, no one ever questions me then.
I find it disturbing that my niece thought the border between worlds was supposed to look like the gates into Disneyland, which is just painful considering she recently was almost locked out of the country on the way back from a trip to Baja California with my sister and her father. She actively was impacted by this system and still didn’t realize it.
When that officer lady (in the third part) said “the reason everybody is here is because we have immigration issues with them”, I’m just thinking, “we probably wouldn’t have ‘immigration issues’ if everything wasn’t already against them the moment they walk up to the counter.” I’m probably just being ignorant, but if it wasn’t so hard and took SO LONG to cross a border, people would probably go through all that legally instead of crossing illegally. God, honestly, listening to everything in the third part made me so freaking sad for everyone. All they want to do is either visit family or go on vacation. Especially for that woman who was going to Spain and spent 11 HOURS ON A FLIGHT, only to have her time wasted for investigation, even though everything they did there was proving her innocent. There’s gonna be some bad apples probably, but not everyone is immediately a druggie or whatever terrible thing they get accused of.
Sadly a lot of things regarding borders-like, even the concept of "crossing illegally" literally exist because of racism in many countries, like the US. They invented the idea of illegal immigrants because they wanted to force "undesirable ethnicities" to have the lowest possible immigration numbers during the Gilded Era, and it only got worse around the 30s... which led to Jewish people being murdered when they literally already crossed the Atlantic to America but were sent back.
@Kab Plummer do you know why we have the distinction of legal vs illegal immigration? Because it only became a thing during the 1930s. A massive part of it being implemented was because at the time there were quotas limiting certain ethnicities and races from immigration. These quotas were implemented in the gilded age- around 1880-1890. These were literally implemented bc of racism and ethnic discrimination and led to the distinction of legal vs illegal, and they got people killed. In this case, especially Jewish people. They might not think they're being racist but this only exists because of white supremacy.
@Kab Plummer like I said it before, but the core is, if something wasn't a problem until a white dominated society got worried about its power weakening, racism is involved. Id love to believe it was about the safety of immigrants or some crap but I've been around long enough to know better. If you know why a thing was implemented and can't see the racism and other problems involved, that's a you thing, especially if you make excuses.
as someone who is considered from the "third world" its really annoying how we are always treated with such suspicion and disrespect for having a "less superior" passport. i cant explain how much of a pain travelling always is and i feel horrible for all the refugees who have to put their lives in danger just to be considered criminals for wnating to escape ther ravaged homes.
I feel similar. Only I've resolved to change that by, hopefully, helping my birthplace be that "superior country". The rules of the game have been set: the strong rule and the weak suffer. The world at large has no pity or reason to care about anyone outside their circles or immediate community. And in my mind that will _always_ be the case. Shaming, guilting, pointing it out isn't going to do shit to the simple minds of the common folk that make up the majority of the population. Trying to change a world built by creatures that are little more than upjumped apes is ultimately pointless, because it takes just one idiot or bored, rebellious generation to ruin everything. The only reliable factor that determines good treatment is power in its various forms. So either we become powerful? Or we get used to the taste of boot.
One thing that always got me when I watched Coco was the people working at the bridge crossing. Do they ever get to cross the bridge themselves or are they people like Hector who no one remembers, but chose to deal with it by becoming arms of the system?
It's pretty much an open secret here in Mexico that sometimes while crossing the american border women often get stripped down or gropped for "inspection"
@@Clown_the_Clown [X] Idiot, only two types of people work as Border Guards. People who actually care about doing their jobs, and people who are more than happy to abuse their position.
As someone from a third world country too, holy shit that last part was chilling. My mom was the one handling our papers to go visit my aunt in Europe, and by "our", I meant me, her, two other aunts, and a few of my cousins. We had to spend thousands just to get plane tickets to get our visas processed. We spent thousands to get our passports processed. We spent thousands to get all the damn paperwork that would help our visas and passports get processed. In the end, only me and my mom were able to go on the trip at all. And they still took their damn time looking over our passports at the airport, along with literally segregating travelers who came from Europe/North America and those who didn't. I don't think I recognized how unfair that was back then, but holy hell do I do now. Anyway, I just wanted to say that this was a superb video essay. Stay safe out there.
Your passport is literally an Item of segregation. Depending on how friendly your country is with others and what kind of reputation you have as a whole nation. I have two passports, that isn't possible for many people. But I am fortunate enough to have a German and a Russian passport. The German Passport is on of the passports with the most privileges. I can travel all over Europe and for a certain amount of days to many other places. I also have the Russian passport, which is also beneficial but no where nearly as the German. My mom doesn't have the same privileges. I can travel anywhere. Trip to London, no problem. My mom on the other side has to get a visa like 3 months in advance. She has her to travel to London... She always wanted to go. But it's hard to plan with 3 month or more planning beforehand. Thanks to her I have my Russian passport and thanks to that I can visit my family. Without that passport it would be very tedious. However if my mom decided to take on the German passport... She wouldn't be able to visit her family without a visa. 3 months or more in advance. She would like to vote her. She has lived here for over 22 years but then she couldn't visit her family easily... Which would be especially bad, since we have a lot of family that is older. It's unfair. And I am so privileged in that regard but I can't really change that.
@@natnuss98 Three months? That's it? When we want to plan a vacation, it's about a year in advance to make sure everything is booked, time off acquired, everything is taken care of. Even then, we never leave the country because the U.S. is a massive place. Seems like the height of privilege and affluence.
I think it is unfair but if your country isnt doing so well and has a lot of criminality people are gonna be suspicious. It isnt against you specificly just against the country
clara ao melody my passport is Canadian and I have an expired Norwegian one for some odd reasons, but like I went to usa by car and they didnt even ask how many days I was going in.
@@aaronbrown8377 it's possibly the opposite, if you're poor your job might tell you on the day when you'll be getting weeks without work next. If you have to work any time there is work then you can't know these things that far in advance. Two groups of people don't plan ahead, the rich who can do whatever they want, and the poor who are at the whims of every richer person and broken system above them and have no say over their breaks.
I was NOT expecting to get triggered by a Coco video... as someone with a "third world" passport, I CAN RELATE 100%. Thank you for addressing how messed up the border system is.
@@WhaleManMan Because this is a video about the systems in coco and the later half of the video is about systems in real life. The flaws of the system are already obvious to the original commenter seeing as they are from a third world country and watching a video that so seamlessly illustrates the issues is worth complementing. To then passive aggressively suggest that they aren't doing enough to fix a multinationally funded system is absurd.
@Kiki M. you sound like a judgmental person. You may think that traveling equals money. Guess what? When you have a "shitty" passport or have traveled to many "third world" countries, your money and your whiteness are irrelevant. They will treat you like garbage at the border. They will make you feel like they can take your papers away at any moment. They will insult you and your identity, and get zero consequences for it. I guess it's something that you have to experience to understand. Or be open minded/empathetic, who knows.
I used to have a "third world" passport, my parent's payed a lot to change it to the one I have now, I still remember how much more we were questioned by border petrol...
When he started talking about stuff, I was shocked to find out that people from first world countries have it to much easier. My whole life I’ve just assumed that stressful visa interviews, passport control interrogations and all that is the norm for everyone..
Nope its really different haha, I am on year 10 of 22 years of a waiting list to get my green card for the US. I meet this english guy in Los Cabos working in a cafe, he told me that he moved to the states, I ask him how, apparently it only took him around one year to get his papers and find a place in the US, I still have 12 years left in waiting in Mexico :)
Going from the USA to Australia, even impoverished and on my partner's dime, was still mostly easy and took about three months. It's just expensive as fuck. In "first world" countries they brick the poor in still and I would never have been able to make the trip at all with minimum wage working for the hospital. Yeah I'm a healthcare worker and can't afford to leave. Frankly I hate passports and the evil fuckers who came up with it. Used to be you could just hop in a boat and land wherever you wanted in the world. I missed the margin of getting to be a nomad by less than 100 years. Keeping people caged in their countries is barbaric and inherently exploitative. If they can't pay your fees to leave you have indentured servitude for life no matter where in the world. I envy Europeans so much, those open borders where you can just take a fuckin day trip to Denmark and go back home to France pisses me off that the rest of the world can't have that because the government wants to keep their slaves.
As someone from the US who as never left the country (since I was a baby, at least) and has heard the horror stories from everyone else, i kinda assumed so too tbh-
@@canvas_125 I mean like tbf Asians do make way more money on average than whites do in the USA. So if there were only 5 Asians living in the USA but they're all ultra billionaires than the argument falls apart ya clown
@@cc-bk4cy in exese i agree especially given what happened to you know who but it usually isn't used in such an evil disgusting way most of the time its just to incapacitate a "dangerous" person
The scene at 18:48 is magnificent, when the guy Hassan is talking the telescope gets the big image like a representation of his point of view and when the Basha talks the telescope gets this small image as his narrow and evasive point of view and then in changes again with Hassan amazing, is the little details man I swear
As a South Asian, it really hit hard during the 'thrid-world' segment, it reminded me of when i was young, how i wanted to travel the world and experience different cultures and so on but then reality hit and i realized that may never be a possibility for me, and sort of gave up on that dream but i still long for it.
I agree, don't give up. There are more ways than one to get your goals. However you worship, bring your goals to God or however you know divine love. Pray how you will about them and be aware of changes in your life and opportunities. Take up those opportunities that point you to love and your goal. I have seen this happen in my life. More than once. I would like to see you reach your goals! Much love and success to you!
tldr Don’t emotionally engage people by showing them a victim of an effed up system without acknowledging that the system is effed up and should be changed
That’s so fucking stupid. That isn’t the point of the movie, it’s just supposed to be used as world building. Not every movie with a systematic obstacle is required to have the character completely derail the plot to tear it down.
I’m very clearly black and have encountered some very skeptical border agents when traveling abroad. I’m pretty sure what saves me every time is the fact that I have a US passport. This video was so well done, and informative. New sub here!
And it's crazy how much the way you look affects the overall experience of traveling. I am mexican, and my mom is part german, so we look relatively white. That, summed with the fact that my family is very privileged, makes our entering into the USA extremely easy. Out of my siblings, i am the least "white-passing" but when we are all together it doesn't seem to matter. One time while I was traveling on my own, I passed migration in Germany. I was almost seventeen, and got "randomly" stopped 3 times. A family friend was supposed to pick me up in France, and I almost didn't make the connection flight because a woman took me to a private room and asked me to take off my hoodie so she could inspect me. I repeatedly told her that I was only wearing a bra under my hoodie, but she didn't seem to care. Eventually, she put her hand under my hoodie and checked that i didn't have anything stuffed in my bra. After she let me go, security also stopped me and after inspecting my backpack, they took a small, carry-on lamp I had because "i could hurt someone with it". That experience definitely tarnished my views on the country my grandma is from.
I'm sorry that you had to experience this. We are also not white but luckily we don't often have any encounter with the police and if we have they're ok or even nice. The police/security here is very strict with their rules and take everything away from you that could be a potential danger. Everytime I fly I see dozens of cremes and perfumes in the bin because they take the whole security thing very seriously. Of course there is racism here and group of nazis that wanna make trouble but overall we don't have to think about our race on a daily basis (unless you meet new people,but I personally find this pleasent than annoying). At least here in Berlin the society is very diverse and welcoming of different kind of people
Damn. So I'm from Honduras, and when you got to the part of the real world systems it hit me. People from first world countries in the upper middle class don't have to gather papers for months to go to the embassy on a specific date to wait for their Visa interview. And it really boggles my mind how I never thought about it. My naive ass honest to goodness assumed this was the norm for everyone.
You're actually incorrect. As someone from a first world country I can assure you that my fellow countrymen definitely do not have to be from the upper middle class or even the lower middle class to be able to travel abroad without a hitch. I'm personally too poor to travel, but if I wanted to buy a ticket, even I could just wave around my passport and I'd be fine.
Correct me if I'm not wrong, but whether or not it is easy to travel from country to country is dependent on how "strong" your passport is, and is also affected by the relationship the country you're travelling to has with your country right?
I'm white, bilingual, middle class, from a South American developed country, and I get terrified when I travel to the US because I've been treated like trash. And if I, being this privileged, have been treated so poorly, I cant even imagine what it's like for others. I HATE those airport shows, they just feed those agents' egos and make people even more prejudiced against immigrants, and SHAVOKADOO is my favorite vine ever. Thank you so much for this amazing video.
when you were talking about passports, i was instantly reminded of when i was going to the uae, and had landed, the border guy at the airport asked my dad where we were from, and when my dad said we were syrian, he went silent, and looked deeply troubled. then, when given out canadian passports (we’re first gen immigrants), he gave us a toothy grin and said our visas were good for forty free days in the uae. it was a formative moment for my fifteen year old self, ha
As a white-passing Iranian woman who has immigrated to Europe, the last third of this video was completely on-spot. The visa process is so, so, so humiliating, and the sheer time it takes for most "first-world" countries to even process the request (for some countries, it takes 10-12 months to process the request) is a horrific deterrent. And it's just the beginning. Integrating into "first-world" countries with a thrid-world passport is just... hard to describe. Having panic attacks in airports, banks and while in any bureaucratic process has become normal for me.
As a Persian girl from a fairly wealthy family, I haven't even been able to once travel to somewhere that is not Middle_east my entire life :) On the other hand my sister has a Netherland passport and she is free to go to wherever she wants
At least other nationals from "third world " can open a fucking bank account. Just email any bank outside of Iran and tell them yeah I'm Iranian and I'm a student who wants to open a fucking bank account to pay my tuition but they will be like you know what? You kind of seem to be funding all terror organisations that have ever existed and you are definitely the bad guy I suspect.
Oh my, this is such a relatable experience - while I love love love travelling, I hate the experience of dealing with the passport control and customs, I get anxious all the time, because something can go wrong (because I've experienced it several times as I've lived half of my life not in a country of my birth and citizenship) at the most random of moments, for no real reason, so there's always this expectation that they'll stop me, won't let me in, send me back to my country, etc.
This video is really important. Even from first world countries, POC often have piles of extra paperwork than white people. While traveling to Germany with classmates, I was one of two POC students. My friend was black, and the rest of the class was white. Logically, she and I would only need first world country paperwork. Passport, birth certificate, not much else. She and I were prepared to be stopped 20 extra times. We both got education visas, multiple copies of our birth certificates, kept copies of letters from our bosses basically saying we were good people, our REPORT CARDS just in case, copies of student IDs, and we even made efforts to make ourselves look "less problematic". She had her hair taken out of its braids and wore it with a pink headband, we both wore our nicest clothes even though our classmates wore jeans and plain sweatshirts, I even switched from contacts to my glasses because MAYBE that will make me look less threatening. And we're STILL privileged when it comes to the world of traveling as POC because we both speak English with no accent, we both come from America, and we were ABLE to get all of those papers in the first place.
Whenever I cross to the US I shave my beard completely because I have a middle eastern complexion when I leave my beard too long. Also haircut two or one day before.
Yeah, I have an EU passport and I completely acknowledge the privilege that comes with that. But I also face some issues at the airport despite my passport. I was asked when entering an EU country, why I was entering (remember as an EU citizen, I have freedom of movement). They made me show them my acceptance letter to the university I was going to attend. Four years later, I was taken aside and searched when entering the country to graduate and also asked why I was there and for the details of my travel, like the date of my graduation. I also do the thing where I try to look "less problematic". I smile and wear pink lol. I try to pretend I'm rich sometimes, too. But that completely backfired once, I was searched and questioned by officers that later admitted to me they were looking for drug dealers/smugglers.
Yup! I am a short Asian woman, so luckily I am not usually categorised as threatening, but I still rarely bring a big suitcase and I always make sure to pack it in a way that's easily put back if searched. Nothing fragile.
This reminds me of something I read recently. Where I live we frequently hear stories of people who studied under street lamps because they didn't have electricity, burned the midnight oil & everything, overcoming impossible-seeming odds to achieve good things & these people are propped up as ideals to aspire to emulate. No one asks why the fuck they had to study in the street & didn't have electricity at home in the first place. It's a romanticization of suffering & nothing else.
Yes! I hate seeing posts that venerate the outliers who beat the system. We shouldn't be praising people for having to fight tooth and nail for opportunities they should have never even been denied, and instead, critiquing the systems that would set someone so far back. What they did is amazing but they should have never even needed to do it. Late-stage capitalism at its finest
This reminds me of a story in Malaysia, where a 19 y/o girl in Sabah had to climb on top of the tree just to get some internet connection to attend her university exams during the Movement Control Order. Some think of this as "inspirational" but it has opened a lot of people's eyes that there are states in that have little to no access on internet connection and have fallen behind technologically.
Everyone in the states has at least 1 racist family member. I was arguing with one of mine on social media about immigration and I told her, "I don't think that simply being an American on American soil makes my life more valuable than someone not born here being on American soil." and she simply replied, "I do." Stories like this are eye-opening only for people who have souls.
I guess I don't have a soul. Because the only thing this story told me is "people can be terrible, even if they are in your family or friendgroup, even if you are a good person." and if that is eye-opening I'm surprised people don't know that already.
I genuinely don't understand how people can say shit like "not being born in [country] makes you less than human" without batting an eyelid. I'm lucky enough to be australian and white but BECAUSE I'm Aussie and white 100% of my ancestors are immigrants or colonists. And it's the white people here saying "stop the boats" and shoving these people desperate to find somewhere halfway safe into torturous camps where they're treated worse than dogs in pounds because they haven't immigrated "the right way" it's so fucked up.
people like that frustrate me so much because how do you change their opinion? they're obviously not using logic, so using logic in your argument is useless. it makes me so mad because I cant just walk away from someone who thinks like that and let them think they're right. but I don't know how to change their opinion.
I think that thinking those people don't have souls is part of the problem. It makes it easy to hate them and to not try to bring them around. Every human being is capable of great evil, it merely takes the right circumstances to bring it out. We are all of us equally human.
I'm colombian, and to this day I still remember how my mom got a job offer to study english in United States and her visa application got rejected because she didn't speak english?!?! Like wtf. Yo this day after a few applications, she doesn't have a visa. And I was also rejected once. To be honest, the worst part of the process is they don't tell you the reason why you're being rejected in order to try to fix it, they just tell you "no", after a huge economic effort just to get to that point.
Immigration is on the whole, a dehumanizing thing, but one thing you need to remember is places like the US and Canada get thousands of applications everyday. Border officers do not have the time to go through an application with someone and show them what they did wrong. Is this a problem? Absolutely. But, we need to realize that there are thousands and thousands of people trying to move to places like US because they believe it means a better life. We need to solve the issues that make people want to come to America in the first place.
I'm Colombian too, and one of my aunties actually lives on USA (she is Colombian too) she comes to our country to visit the family or to just update her residence, and every time she is being inspected on the border she fucking gets stopped and investigated, even though SHE HAS BEEN LIVING THERE FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS And for us is like that all of the time, Colombians have a 80% chance to be stopped by the officers in the USA
My mans single handedly dismantled the "well if they immigrate legally I don't have a problem" argument. I had no idea how ridiculously hard it is to get a visa let alone a passport around the world.
The best part is when they deny your tourist visa but refuse to tell you why so all you can do is pay again to apply with sightly different forms and hope you got it right this time with no indication of what you need to get approved!
@@liberpolo5540 Yeah, but I would argue apathy is a much more devastating problem especially when people are comfy. I myself have to admit that I'm not an activist, all I can do is donate and be vocal about these issues...
Part 3 of this video was a perfect encapsulation of the idea “you’re so privileged you don’t even know how privileged you are, because you have no concept of how many little - but all encompassing - ways other people are oppressed”. As a person of privilege, it was deeply uncomfortable to watch, but even that statement is ridiculously privileged because that’s people’s lived reality and I just had a tiny peak behind the curtain. I both love and hate learning information like this, but I think (or hope) that at least learning it makes me a better, more empathetic person. Definitely made me an instant subscriber.
I feel the same. I have the luxury of the choice to look away, but many others don't ever get that choice and have to live with that shit every. Single. Day. My only verbal thought while watching that segment was "holy shit." And I previously had the audacity of being frustrated of the process of getting a passport, when it was infinitely easier than what was described in the video.
When I tell you that I NEVER would have expected this to go where it went, I really couldn’t have. This hit me different because I’m from the US and my parents are from Mexico and when me and my younger sister always talk about wanting to visit other countries my mom always says she wants to go too, but since she has a Mexican passport it’s hard to imagine that our way of wanting to travel and her way of wanting to travel are drastically different. I’ll never forget the day I went to Mexico to visit some family my mother was telling me how lucky I am to have the passport that everyone wants (US passport) and it broke my heart to think the woman who raised me was seen as a second class citizen just cause of where she was born. Fuck the system, fuck ice and open all boarders
I describe myself as pro border (I am brown). I have family/friends that want to come here but they are going through the immigration process as well. I would not want them to be targeted by ice or border security. My knowledge of the immigration process is not strong but I still have high hopes that the legal process they are going through goes well. Edit: I want the immigration process to be better. I am limited on what I can say about the immigration process. I was born here.
Kiki M. The US is my country what do you mean by US “culture” the US is a melting pot of many cultures, and protect the US from what, people seeking a better life? what I have seen over and over in my own life is it’s always the people who have it good who stop caring about others and their struggles
Jose Sosa the immigration process is long and tedious and it take years to even get a response, years that people don’t have time to wait for, I think most people should realize that other people leave their countries because they aren’t in a good place (government or otherwise) and they don’t have all this time to wait for a response. We can all hope that it goes well but that’s not what is happening
@@Camila-xj2nz I am an artist. Sad for me to say but I am limited on what i can say about immigration. I am happy that my foreign family and friends are happy in dominican republic(where i am from). A cousin/close friend of mine has parents that are already citizens (or have their papers, whatever the correct wording is) but they don't have their papers for their son. I still remain hopeful but i am glad that we are having the border conversation.
@Kiki M. Have you ever lived in Europe? I am german, and the whole "refugee destroying western civilization" narrative spouted by alt-right pundits is nothing more than fearmongering. I live in an area where many refugees found a new home, i see hijabis every time I go shopping. It's very quiet and peaceful, we have rainbow flags hanging out of windows, and some neighbors even campaign for helping the refugees stuck in Moria. The people who call refugees violent terrorists have probably never seen one. Of course some became aggressive while they were stuck in crowded shelters with no privacy, but the same thing happened back when people fled from east Germany after the reunification. If it was my home being bombed or my family starving to death I would try to escape too, there is nothing "evil" about that. I want to add that I absolutely HATE it when US americans or other non-europeans talk about how europe is decaying because of open borders. I enjoy traveling across neighbor countries and my new neighbors don't harm me, thank you very much.
I am from Nigeria. This video has me feeling very emotional because one of the main reasons why I am studying medicine is to have slightly easier access to a visa and probably to leaving my country . And what’s worse is , in addition to all of the horrors of immigration, my government specifically works on and announces ways of frustrating our movement in and out of the country even more. I do hope it gets better even though I highly doubt it.
I was born in the US and I've never been outside the country. I've always has this vague understanding that I have unfair unjustifiable privileges over others when it comes to travel and immigration and things, but I've never known the firsthand details of what it could be like for someone, so this was very eye-opening. Flying within the country is stressful enough for me as it is, but something like this I just couldn't imagine. Fucking horrible.
I'm mexican, white passing and speak fluent English. Whenever I travel with my family is a certainty that one of us (usually my parents) will get detained and searched, interrogated and the such. It's such a pervasive issue that literally everyone I know has to plan for extra hours in case we get detained, so we don't lose tours or have problems with reservations. It's completely normalised and whenever you plan a trip you have to plan for the possibility of not being allowed entrance, even if you went through all the hassles. Hell, you have to plan a trip ~6 months in advance because the visa process is lengthy and outdated, people from 3rd world countries have literally no posible way to have a spontaneous trip anywhere
The fact that you are speaking to people from all over the world in your mother language, without ever having to learn another one to travel (because everywhere in the world should have english translated signs, right? Because everyone in the world should be able to speak your language, right?), get a job (and it's the /basic/, I'm on my 3rd or 4th language by now and still dont know if I'll be able to get one), consume your favorite contents and all is already in itself a privilege.
@@ruan9215 It’s a first step though. It’s great that this person has gained this awareness. It’s impossible to act for change when you’re not even aware there’s a situation that needs changing.
Got PTSD from your description of border control. As someone with an African passport, the way I've been treated has legitimately made me hate traveling.
Fuck them. I hate them for you. They have no right to treat you in a scary way. I used to work retail, and in no way did we ever treat people and kindly.
The woman who didn't do anything... If I was in her place I can imagine my anxiety sky rocket, that poor woman. Plus if they don't know if she takes some medication or not than some medication (specifically few antidepressants) can make a specific drug test fakely positive. I can't imagine how much worse would that make it for her because I can imagine they just wouldn't hear her out over their blant racism.
@@1SpicyMeataball - First off, people can criticize their own system. Why is it that other people are heroic when challenging their governments, yet we as Americans can't do the same? Just bc other places are more oppressive than our country, that doesn't mean we should accept our system just bc it's a little less shitty. Other countries aren't as economically-stable enough to help their citizens. Yet we're the richest country in the world, so what's our excuse for all the unemployment, low ranking education, increasing mortality rates, decreasing fertility rates, inaccessible healthcare, constant mass shootings, crumbling infrastructure, opioid crisis, high homeless rates, high suicide rates, highest incarceration, growing corruption, etc? What's our fking excuse? Nothing, we have NO excuse. I suppose slave abolitionists, women suffragists, civil rights advocates, etc. should've all just moved to another country instead of trying to make our nation better. The amount of ignorance & arrogance that you have is shameful. Second of all, trust me alot of us would leave America if we could, but most of us are financially stuck here. If we had the mobility to drop everything, many of us would leave in a heartbeat. America is not truly "free", nor is it the "best" in the world. There's plenty of beautiful countries out there with a high happiness index rating. My dream is to retire as an expat. The cost of living & inflation in America is gonna get worse. I'm gonna go live in a beautiful country in South America or Asia where my retirement savings can sustain me. America will continue to burn, flood, riot, and crumble. And I'll be long gone in a tropical paradise where everything is cheap and the people are lovely.
YourMajesty143 You know America is is a hella ton of debt, right? Like, yeah that doesn’t excuse a lot of the scummy things the government does, but when you realize that some things make a lot more sense. Good luck moving to some other country though. Every place has its pros and cons, so I hope you find a nice place who’s pros outweigh their cons for you.
The "inspirational story" thing, reminds me of that post saying something along the lines of: "every American feel good human interest story is like "this man paid 4,000 dollars to stop a kid from going to the orphan crushing machine" but never talks about why there's an orphan crushing machine and why it costs money to not operate it."
I’m blown away. I didn’t realize how privileged I am simply because of the country in which I was born. I used to share the opinion of “if they don’t want to be deported they should immigrate legally” because I thought it was just as easy for people in third world countries to immigrate as someone in a first world country. I now realize the flaw in the way I thought before. I always knew I was privileged from being born into a first world country and into a middle class family, and I’ve always tried to be mindful of my privilege and use it to help those who aren’t as fortunate. Thanks to this video, I now have the knowledge I didn’t have before and now I know why I should stand up for those who are trying to immigrate, rather than continuing to normalize such an unjust system
And that's a big part in what you can do is share the knowledge in hopes that a majority of people acknoweldge it and are indignant enough to reach cirtical mass. It sounds liberal to complain from a tower of privilege but, its much better to know than not know and be proud in your ignorance. If you know better then you can do better. Knowledge is power. Yes, do what you can with those you meet but, I can understand the idea of powerlessness in a system greater than you but knowedge, i think, is the first step to solving this issue. Telling ignorant people about the inequality of border policing is one way to garner sympathy and ease of border control. There's a lot of people who want to contribute to America and work. They just need opportunity.
One of the hardest things for someone to do is admit they were wrong when the people around them continue to perpetuate a false narrative out of fear and bigotry. Good on you for breaking out of that narrative. Hopefully more people follow.
I actually had no idea about how difficult travelling was for "third-world" country residents, since im from a "first-world" country, thats actually insane.
I didn't really know either. But I've head of people sneaking in with crazy shit so I always thought it was deserved. But a lot of people are completely innocent and they get harassed.
I wish they had gone the more mystical route. If the afterlife is a slightly more miserable version of this life (for everyone, as it has more limitations, less beauty, etc), and you die there again, what's the point?
I haven’t been able to quite put my finger on my wariness around more recent Pixar films. I’ve felt a bit cynical, like people mistake them for great movies because they’re great at making you cry. But even while I was sobbing at Coco or Inside Out I felt a bit resentful. I mean I cry in Wall-E during the space dance, because it’s so transcendent and joyous and imaginative and beautiful.... it makes me feel good about being alive and human. And I think, now that this video has helped me articulate it, that there’s something increasingly depressing about Pixar giving the impression of not being able to imagine beyond the depressing systems of our own world. So I feel a bit cheated in these more recent moments of high emotion because they’re not GIVING me anything, they just know how to really effectively say “isn’t that SAD?”. And I think fiction can do better than that.
@@kathrynmiller4240 agreed. I think this tendency started with Toy Story 3, an attempt to revive a franchise special for its creativity by bringing back themes from the second movie in a depressing note. The ending is beautiful, but the threat of abandonement persists, looming in the imortality of the toys. What was a problem easily solved in the simple story of the second movie turns into an unsolvable and almost cynical dilema in the very existence of the toys: the more "realistic" approach explicits the curse of seeing the kids you were made for lose interest in you, and ultimately die. What was almost a fairy tale turns into a nihilistic world, where your very existence is absurd. OK, I took it too far, but this is so different from the delightful (pun intended) view of life in Ratatouille! And how powerful is The Incredibles! There isn't a lot of emotional moments, the stories don't pull your crying cords, but they mesmerize you in a chilling way, opening new worlds before you. Finding Nemo, UP and Wall-e, on the other hand, have their heart-wrenching moments, but they always build up to it, offering scenes of wonder and almost transcendent beauty, as you rightly put it.
I feel like having the need to add a border control to a movie about Mexican Culture speaks volumes about the biases the people behind the movie have in general
@@PapitosArt first world countries are countries that sided with the us in the cold war, second sided with the ussr, third didn’t side with nobody please read before you speak
I DIDN’T KNOW ANY OF THAT. I just turned 18 a few days ago - I’m a legal adult, I’ve been on the internet, and for a white woman in New York, I thought I was actually more knowing of the rest of the world than a lot of other people I know. But I didn’t know ANY of those border horrors - simply because we simply say “crossing borders is hard” and never have conversations/information about these actual experiences unless we take the time to actually inform ourselves. I didn’t understand just how people’s home/currently-staying-in countries were so monumental in the visa process/access, I didn’t know so many got rejected, I’ve never been privy to this reality (even though I’ve flown a few times!) and I blame myself and my society for not making this a bigger deal. How are we so blind? Why are stories still making villains when we need stories about reality and systematic wrongness far far FAR more?!? Just know - thank you for making this video. So many people growing up in the system are making the rules the same as always, either not caring for y’all’s struggles or not knowing a damn clue about them, and I’m horrified. I’m really glad I actually know something now - if only something! - about this. Damn, this is terrible. And worst part is that I know I sound like that character from Coco - “oh, I don’t know what I’d do if not one displayed my picture!” - and I don’t know how to change that. Damn.
Me neither; this video just made me aware of all this. I've been trying to involve myself a lot more with social activism these days, and I've been educating myself as much as I can on what's been going on in Yemen, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Belarus, Serbia, Poland, Russia, and of course the US where I live, but I feel like outside of educating myself and making other people aware of injustices, there's not a lot I can do.
Ocareening Right on - I constantly feel like anything I do will always come off as patronizing, unknowing, or unwanted, because I haven’t been through any of these struggles myself. They’re not wrong to assume so either - the track record of history supports those notions, and like we just saw, there’s a lot of stuff we don’t know regardless of how “smart” we are compared to our peers in the first world. I feel helpless - I do nothing and that solves nothing obviously, or i try to do something and run the risk of having an ill-informed opinion, or even worse, learning incorrect information and ending up spreading that. There’s no “correct” way to help the world, but there are many wrong ways, and I’m terrified of doing one of them due to my ignorance. I try to keep up with some of that news, but...ugh, it’s so easy to distance myself and get distracted by college planning or a book or something else. A cold harsh truth that I wish the people going through visa processes also had. The world and how it works is sickening.
Seconding this! I honestly started the video cause I thought the title sounded like a pretentious stretch. Holy cow, I was so wrong. Thank you so much for making this!!!
Damn. Wait till you hear about the conditions US Border control keep trapped immigrants in. Or till u hear how during covid-19 they have been spraying immigrants with toxic disinfectant multiple times a day , disinfectant that is NOT meant for human contact only for surfaces. Or till you hear how ICE has become a domestic and international spreader of covid-19 and how these countries with relatively low covid cases have sky rocketed due to deportations by the US and now the countries are dealing with a health crisis that their system is not at all prepared to handle. Or wait till you hear how border control will SLASH water jugs and trash food left for immigrants to leave them to DIE in the desert because that's just how it is. etc. Etc. Etc. Never stop learning.
serious respect man. Life can be a right piece of shit. It's important to have some sort of way to express your self during whatever is happening but especially when dealing with things out of our control. I adore the consideration of us even though we play such a small part in your life. This videos existence shows us that. From the absolute bottom of my heart thanks dude. Push through.
I think something you forgot (or maybe did not stress enough) to say in the "how getting an entry visa works in real life" part is that the embassy interviewer can deny you the visa for absolutely NO REASON and they are not forced to tell you why. The can just wake up one day, decide that they are going to deny the visas to as many people as they feel like doing so and there is absolutely nothing that these people can do about it because "hey, thats completely legal".
Their job is literally check your vibe and if you cannot be vocalized but they just have the wrong feeling that's their job to identify that. If you don't like it make your government better so they can negotiate on the global stage
@@WillBilly.The problem with that argument is that "they have the wrong feeling" opens the door for a whole host of prejudices. It rests on the assumption that these people are unbiased and are not acting on any racist, classist, or xenophobic motivations. They can just say one thing when they really mean another. Putting the fate of a person's life in someone else's hands with nothing to keep the power in check is wrong
@@kaylaisnothere4397 thats why you hire the right people, there will be bias still but less and we cant get rid if that realistically. At the end of the day nobody is owed entry into any country besides their own.
@@WillBilly....that's the thing though, you CAN get rid of bias. If a country (like America) has a problem with "immigration" or "terrorism" or whatever they're campaigning for at the time, then just make everyone go through this! Everyone now has to get a visa through the same processes and everyone now has to deal with insanely tight-security border patrol inspections! Obviously no one would priviliged would like that, but that's the point. If the system is so fundamentally broken than an entire nation of people would find it inhumane and unjust if it were also applied to them, then that means it needs to be changed for everyone including the unpriviliged groups. And if it were somehow applied to everyone, even for just a few weeks, it definitely would change to be better. People vote for politicians who agree with their views (or are just really good at marketing but we won't get into that), and those politicians want to make sure they get elected again, so they'll actively be pushing for reforms in the system. You mentioned "hiring the right people" would fix this problem, but the problem is that the system is made so that those doing the hiring are hiring the wrong people because they get paid to hire the wrong people. If you were not racist, classist, xenophobic, or otherwise against certain people groups, then you would not be hired since you would be empathizing with these people coming in and could not be "objective" about your rulings and do your job effectively. No amount of bandaids will fix it, the problem is the system and our attitudes towards it.
Since this video is filled with comments about the same situations I don't expect anyone, especially eliquorice, to read my comment, but I was so touched by this video essay that I felt like I had to say something. First of all, this video, even if it's not "complete", it's a masterpiece. Definitely, and I'm glad you posted it because it's important to talk about all the topics that you mention in it. So thank you for that. And I'm glad to know that your family and friends are safe. Now, I'm a Mexican young woman, whose skin is not quite brown and who has been privileged enough to learn English since I was in kindergarten. My parents both come from families who experienced some kind of poverty or who at least did not have a considerable amount of wealth, but both of them worked their asses off and thanks to that I know I will not experience what it's like to not have enough money for something, and I'm forever grateful. However, I know I'm an exception in the vast amount of statistics of people who are born poor and die poor. I'm extremely privileged about it. A few years ago, my dad and I started traveling to other countries out of my curiosity to explore the world, and I began to see the exact same thing that you mentioned in the third section of the video. Now, like you, I can sometimes pass for white, but my dad is undeniably brown. He has quite dark skin, and he doesn't know a bit of English. So anytime we go through security in any airport I get so fucking scared to get away from him because I know I could maybe try to explain the situation if something were to happen to me, because at least I understand what they say, but he doesn't. He may be able to infer some things based on reactions and physical expressions, but that's a whole different story. So, not only do I have to be an interpreter for him, but I also fear for both of our lives whenever we cross a border. And we haven't ever been to the U.S. ever. So, when I saw that clip of the Honduran woman I actually cried. I cried out of anger and frustration that this evidently innocent woman had to endure all of that due to the racism of some airport security people. And what is even more frustrating is that it was pure racism, because that was in Spain. She spoke their language! A language that their ancestors enforced on her ancestors! You could not even blame the situation on "oh, they couldn't understand her, so maybe that is why all of this happened" (which in itself would be bad, but arguably this is even worse). When watching that clip I could not stop thinking about my dad and how he (and me too, but especially him) could go through that same thing just because we are from the third world. And it's truly heartbreaking and infuriating. So, yeah, I never fully thought about the implications of what _Coco_ meant when it comes to radically changing the system, but thankfully I know now.
Yeah girl I was so mad, you know my mom works a lot and she likes to travel. Imagine working your butt of to go to Spain and this shit happens to you I would have cried in her place because it's a dream for so many to know the world and that is just vanished because you don't look white and you are considered a criminal all the time.
Your comment resonated too much with me. Both my sister and I are brown Peruvians. I've been living for some time in Europe and I sure as hell remember my first entry into the continent via Madrid. 3 hours in total so that they could go through my entire documentation (which I carried because I knew what to expect) and to get in touch with my university so that they could clarify that I was indeed entering the continent to study. Not so long ago my sister came all the way from Peru just to see me and to live her dream of visiting the Gaudi buildings in Barcelona, and it crushed my heart when she told me about the way she was treated by the immigration police when entering. I can only imagine her scared, anxious and on the verge of tears wondering which document did she miss so that these people chose her out of hundreds of tourists entering the city on that particular day. It saddens me that her experience was tainted by an encounter with authorities that act based on their own prejudices and on top of that are extremely rude and condescending to anyone that doesn't look white. It's hard not to turn this sadness into anger. I've lived outside my country for almost 10 years, and every developed country I've stepped into has always reminded that I'll never be an expat, only an immigrant.
The part where he started talking about immigration hit way too close to home. My mom has tried several times to get her citizenship by herself, and failed each time no matter how squeaky clean her record was or how good her application looked. For most people, they’re excited to turn 21 because they can legally drink, smoke, etc. And that’s fine, good for them. For me, I’m excited to turn 21 so we can finally have a good chance at getting her application accepted and getting her citizenship.
Idk why, but I absolutely started bawling when the lady from tegucigalpa showed up, because that's where I'm from and I just know that that she went through so much to be able to go in the first place, probably just wanted to visit a relative she hadn't seen in a long time and she's judged and treated like a criminal just from being where she's from. I really, really despise the system
as a mexican, i had a certain apprehension to the movie when it came out. I didn't want to go see it, and when people told me how they felt when they watched it, i would sort of stop listening. It felt wrong that there was a movie by disney about this tradition, for some reason. i am from the city (Mexico City) and doing the altar and getting the food and all that is something that we do almost every year, but i learned very young that it was not my tradition, that it was from another state in mexico, and we didn't really know how it was originally celebrated by them. I guess i felt like, if i, a Mexican, didn't exactly know how to celebrate this tradition, a movie from another country wouldn't either. When i watched it, it felt like it had been painted mexican in the surface, but it just didn't feel like it was made for me. It feels like it's made for them, the usa. I don't know if this makes any sense, but after your video i think i was not entirely wrong.
*If feel like it wasn't made for the mexicans* and yet it was the highest grossing film in Mexico in that year and was beloved by most mexicans that watched it so what are you saying?
This was a _perfect_ analysis of this film. I especially like the fact that this WASN'T just another mindlessly positive review gushing about how Pixar can apparently do NO EVIL in the eyes of it's audiences. And to an extent I agree that it was a beautiful film, both narratively, cinematically, as well as graphically. _Coco_ was actually one of the very few Pixar films I enjoyed, but even while watching it, it's hard to ignore how much the company shamelessly ripped off of Studio Gibli's _Spirited Away_ . (Seriously... some scenes are a FRAME BY FRAME exact copy!) I really like that you've made your focus on things that most people willfully choose to ignore. I also could relate to your experiences on being discriminated against. I'm American, but I'm a Black, dark skinned female with kinky hair. My husband is a blond haired, blue eyed White male. We get treated _very_ differently from each other and it is hurtful to me. Especially when those guilty try to deny their obvious prejudices. (Just to give a quick example: YEARS ago, pre-COVID, I bugged my hubby about us getting new furniture, since most of our things were 2nd hand from yard sales, consignment shops, hand-me-downs, etc, which we got back when we were broke college students. By then my tastes had changed, and I wanted a specific style. I was planning to refurnish our living room, master bedroom, and our baby's room. We went to a family-owned furniture store about 2 hours away from us that everyone swore had the most _GORGEOUS_ furniture. (It really did) At the time, we had our (then 2 year old) with us, which we had just picked up from daycare. On the way inside, we realized our child was still holding one of her toys. Since we didn't want her to lose it, my husband ran back to the car with her to drop the toy in the backseat. Meanwhile, I continued inside. When I opened the door, there were 3 workers in the immediate vicinity: a man who looked to be in his 70's, a woman in her 50's(ish) and a young girl who looked about my age at the time, which was mid to late 20's. All 3 looked up at me, looked me over, and went back to reading (the older woman was doing a crossword puzzle, the man reading a newspaper, and the 20-something girl was playing on her phone). This might seem like arbitrary details, but I remember it vividly as I watched them ignore me. Literally. They ignored me. What hurt the most is not simply that they ignored me. It's that they looked at me, SIZED ME UP, and decided I was not worth wasting time on, as they clearly - based on their reactions to me- did not expect that I would spend any money. They considered even speaking to me to be pointless and a waste of oxygen. I felt myself _wilt_ . Then my husband comes in with our child. It might be important to note that although our child is biracial, when she was young, she looked more White than anything else. She had pale skin and curly blonde hair, which has since darkened to a cinnamon brown. I say this to acknowledge that to these 3 workers (who were actually the OWNERS and their daughter, btw) my husband and child did NOT look like they were with me. They assumed my husband was there alone with his little 2 year old. When he entered the store, it's as though a light were switched; ALL 3 workers rose from their seats, smiling and greeting my husband warmly, asking if they could help him with anything. My husband, who is _completely_ uninterested in ANY sort of shopping outside of computer related equipment, nodded towards me and said, "ask my wife. She had a whole list of things she wanted to look at". Well let me tell you...by then my enthusiasm was dead. I no longer wanted to buy furniture, and CERTAINLY not from _this_ place..not from _these_ people. So I definitely feel your pain when it comes to discrimination. Sorry to post such a long rant. I guess it still bothers me. I look forward to your next great masterpiece video analysis! ❤️
The worst part about micro-aggressions like that is how constantly they happen, how they wear a person down over time. I'm sorry these things happened to you. :( Since you mentioned the scene-for-scene similarities to Spirited Away, I also wanted to add that the entire premise of a CG animated Day of the Dead movie from an American studio where the protagonist crosses to the land of the dead and returns was already done beautifully in The Book of Life by director Jorge Gutierrez. Not that two films about Dia de los Muertos can't exist, but I was annoyed that the smaller film, which was already excellent and only from a few years beforehand, was overshadowed by Coco.
So I thought you should know as a Mexican quite a few of us hated the movie so much, it portrays our holidays like a class struggle, it shouldn’t, el día del los muertos is actually supposed to be seen as a day where no matter what class your in everyone is remember, he’ll we even have a second celebration for kids then adults also for those that are “forgottten” not letting them become forgotten
Ugh, this is such an important point! As a fellow Mexican, the struggles of the lower classes and poverty represent a hugh part of our population and showing that class differences and privilege existed beyond death was truly disheartening. The belief that we are equals to death is, I believe, a central part of Dia de Muertos and that aspect is completely ignored in the movie.
I agree with you on that, but then they wouldn’t have had such a moving plot. It still made a pretty good point through a story that parallels our living world which is an important thing to see, even in what is represented as a child’s film. But yes, the actual dia de los muertos is a way for you and I to celebrate our lost loved ones and I don’t think it took away from that at all ❤️
As a Mexican artist i can see the separation of details added for plot and actual cultural representation and i appreciate the story elements as much as the Mexican culture its mixed with. Its not that deep its a fictional world, when you look at the alive humans celebrating the holiday its a celebration of life with no class struggle just people remembering their loved ones, then the FICTIONAL world has this struggle for plot and character development. I appreciate both sides and thought it was executed quite well and respectfully
I feel like Pixar leaned too hard on the idea that every person who watched the movie would be crying so hard at Miguel singing Remember Me that viewers wouldn't even notice the implications of Hector being the only confirmed once-forgotten character cleared to cross over the border. Unfortunately, I was one of those people who cried my eyes out at that scene, and I totally could imagine someone on the film's story team arguing to keep the ending limited in scope so that people would leave the theatre thinking of Remember Me, Coco's death, and Hector being brought into the family again instead of anything else. Disney movies, Pixar included, love treating main characters' personal victories as wins for everyone else except individual clear-cut villains
I wish they’d had him go back to the slums and bring offerings to his old friends. Like Miguel insists on putting up an ofrenda for the people who were forgotten and gets donations from the neighborhood to fill it with offerings. That would’ve given a message about helping where you can and caring for people who are down on their luck even if it doesn’t completely change the system.
According to the rules of the movie, though, Miguel putting up an ofrenda for the forgotten people still wouldn't help to save them from being forgotten. Otherwise Hector would have been saved as soon as Miguel got back to the land of the living. They had to be remembered by someone who knew them in life. That's why he had to get Coco to remember Hector, because she was the last living person who knew him in life.
However, the idea of Hector & the other Riveras going back to the slums and helping out the people there is wonderful and I could imagine it happening, although from a storytelling perspective I think it would have been hard to fit into the movie without reworking a lot of the ending; it would throw off the pacing & rhythm. So they chose to go for the big emotional moment of triumph for Hector rather than spending time wrapping up those loose ends.
In my family, we light a separate candle ( if I remember correctly) for those forgotten.
@@Dachusblot that's because it's not a loose end, the message that the film is trying to convey is that the people who are still alive must remember and pass the memory of the people who passed away, the problem is not that they cannot pass to the other side and receive the offerings, the problema is being forgotten. I am Mexican and the important thing about this tradition is to remember, and the film from beginning to end is spent all the time saying and emphasizing the importance of the living remembering the people that passed away. For that reason, it would not make sense to change this aspect of their society, this is what will drive people to remember and want to do something to be remembered.
@@jasdd2967 Next to my grandmother's grave, there's one that obviously hasn't been visited in years, so I've started buying one extra candle to put it on that one, since I know noone else will
@@nataliaborys1554 That is wonderful
I still haven’t gotten over the fact that Disney tried to copyright the term dia de los muertos for merchandise
I'm not surprised. It's Disney.
Like another comment said, Disney successfully copyrighted "hakuna matata". Its so fricking disgusting...
WHAT, THEY DID THAT?
@@realglutenfree did they actually make that up or are they actual words
@@yellowteaspoond5507 dianey did not make the phrase hakuna matata is a very common often used swahili phrase in many eastern countries in africa such as kenya and uganda
rip everyone that died before photographs existed
Drawings should work too, I think?
What about codex?
Hi, Mexican person here, the sugar skulls now used more as a decoration were used to represent the person on the ofrenda before pictures
DJ Mensil thank you :)
@@djmensil7303 OMG so that's why you need to put a name on every skull you place in a memorial, as a Mexican thanks
I'm not Mexican and when i first saw Coco I was questioning why you would need a picture for an offering to be valid. Like "how did people celebrate this tradition before cameras then?"
I guess art?
You gotta remember mexico has only existed for about 400 years. Most of the modern mexican culture only popped up in the last 200. Before mexico you had Aztec and dozens of other smaller civiliations with vastly different cultures that diluted and mixed with Catholistm. Technology also greatly efffects culture, just like how modern concept of weddings with glamouras gowns and diamond rings only became main stream in the last century.
@@notsans9995 And how memes are so prevalent in today's culture, ask somebody to find a cultural zeitgeist for the 2000's and onwards, and some popular videos and images will probably pop into their brains.
Oh, yeah, never thought of that. I think in the past they just left their offerings beside a candle. That *should* be valid.
@@notsans9995you are wrong, that tradition existed far before the spanish people came, there is evidence of this celebration from totonaca, mexica, purépecha and maya.
My first take on the ending was that Miguel would grow up and old hella stressed trying to make sure that every member of his family (and his friends etc) would have a photo and be remembered, and get stories from everyone he could to try to keep as many present in the land of the dead as possible. Basically here is the beginning of Miguel's anxiety disorder and desperate attempt to personally remember literally everyone who has died.
I feel like a lot of child protagonists would get issues after their experiences
ironically that is also very reminiscent of the experience with border systems, if i want my kids to travel i have to work a lot so they have a good live and can have good connections, if my friends want to get a visa i would try to help all of them get the documents they need and i myself would try to look as righteous and wealthy as i could
Head canon time: he starts writing a book with short chapters that are each just short stories from a sertin persons life, at the end of the chapter there is a picture of that person, like Miguel just becomes a famous wrighter and gets people remembered by the entire world
And then when he does forget someone (because he will) he’ll probably never forgive himself for it and get even more mental issues
yeah only he can solve the wealth inequality of the dead world where we literally witness characters dying from malnourishment like. kind of a heavy responsibility
As someone who’s family came from central america and they celebrate día de los muertos.....i saw a lot my community find it bad that a photo was necessary for the ofrenda in the movie...my family was so poor and suffered through war that they didn’t have pictures of themselves until the 90s
@@lpsfankanr1 I mean... that's the problem with shorthand as writers. If we use a shortcut carelessly, we can often create a message and path that we didn't intend to. Intent matters, but it doesn't matter as much as the actual impact.
People internalize that shorthand and lose the nuance overtime. That's how we end up with a society believing a systemic issue is just a matter of people not trying hard enough. After all, every inspirational story shows a hero winning against similar odds purely by a but of pluck and determination. If you can't win, you didn't try hard enough.
Words are weapons, and a weapon fired recklessly can injure the innocent.
Yes! I thought about this, like poor people who can't afford camera phones (or the cost of cameras, film, and development back in the day), orphans who have no family to put up their pictures, the recluses who only interact with their mail carrier and food/essentials delivery drivers, even people who just think taking pictures is bad juju. Do drawings suffice for some of those people, and how good do the drawings have to be?
@@amiraameera8302 ignoring the social context completely, just in the fantasy setting obviously a drawing must suffice, or no one from before like 1880 could cross over. it seems like the system has been in place for way longer than 150 years so probably any representation deliberately meant to be that individual would work
Central america? Where are you from?
Well, we do see background characters in the movie from times where photographs weren't even a thing, most seemingly wealthy too (I'm sure I saw what I could assume to be a tlatoani). So I think it's safe to assume there are alternatives like using misc. illustrations representing the person (ranging from a child's drawing of a family member to paintings from back when) or maybe even written names.
"For people in the first world, the hardships of traveling starts when they arrive at the destination, for us, it starts before you even buy a ticket"
This hit hard.
paying and traveling within our country to get a visa that might be denied or for short term.
I feel like, as someone from England, I don't even really experience `hardships` when travelling apart from some minor stress that relates far more to my personal problem of just getting stressed easily. This is especially because English is my first language and it's shoved down people's throats in so many other countries, so I don't even have language issues most of the time. It's so unfair that other people get judged so harshly just because the system and the workers under it are so prejudiced; while I do feel very fortunate that due to my circumstances I've never experienced or even fully known the horrors of this harsh reality, it makes me so angry that people suffer because of it.
Truth 100%
As a Nigerian I completely agree
This dude posted a trilogy of genuinely very insightful high quality essays about topics that you don't really see discussed by many else and then just straight up vanished.
Die goated
Yeah I hope he's doing alright, I would love to hear more from him
I feel you dude…. this channel is so good…
maybe he didn't make it out of airport customs and he's now in jail writing his autobiography...
I wonder if he's okay. His twitter is also inactive.
I came for coco I stayed for the deep analysis of our borders
Same
So they say knowing is half the battle. But what about knowing for an hour, then forgetting?
Ah yes the borders 🇲🇽
a border to Canada, yes
Same here! I would love to hear more about his perspective on more topics and movies.
I find it interesting that the Book of Life, the movie most people compared to Coco, completely removed the border control concept and just made a fantastic fantasy world inspired by the traditional settings, not the modern one.
I feel like that movie is too underrated, no one seems to talk about it even though it was a great movie. I loved when I was a kid
I think ot was directed by a Mexican director that had done other Mexican related projects before, I think the guy in this movie is too but Im not sure about it, maybe it was a Pixar edition...who knows, but you guys have never seen Las aventuras de Manny Rivera? The guy who made it made the book of life too.
AND it was made by a mexican (the dude who also made El Tigre)
they came out pretty close together right? I feel like coco totally stole its thunder
Yooo the book of life was lowkey inaccurate to Mexican culture, I remember watching it and being like are they representing Spanish or Mexican culture ?✨confusion✨ ooof I really hated that film though
I completely forgot this video was about Coco during the third part
Same
me too lol
Me too, but still really nice to know.
SAME
I kinda remembered it at the end while thinking: "how did I get here?"
It’s great how redundant the border patrol is, given how the bridge works. It is quite an odd obsession some writers have with “recreating modern reality within a fantasy surreal setting”. Such a bizarre obsession.
Or maybe it's a message to non-Americans. Obey the system without a fuss.
@@mikshinee87 Pretty fucked up message if so..
@@mikshinee87 It’s not that deep bozo.
I got the impression that the border patrol is there to fish people out the bridge, and also to double-check what they bring back (got anything to declare?) to make sure they weren't stealing.
@@Regfife wouldn't the magic bridge check for stolen goods and couldn't it (again, the *magic* bridge) just make the person sink then get them back to the other side?
It's a fictional setting, love.
When Coco came out in Mexican theaters, I had a talk with a cousin, or rather an argument. She said that what the film taught the new generations, especially the Mexican ones, was very wrong, because never, NEVER did anyone tell us "you have to put the photo in the offering so that your grandfather comes to visit us", of course not They never told us that, the offering always worked with or without a photo, the intention with which you put it for the person is what counts. In a way, Pixar literally almost completely changed the whole ideal of this celebration just by putting it in the context of "the photo is important." It is not true, the important thing is the intention. What about offerings to people you want to dedicate but don't have a photo at hand? Or did you lose it? Or just disappeared? The intention was very sidelined. Just for that, I have a conflict as a Mexican, with the film. Yes, it's pretty good, and I cried and all that, but I think that was not quite right
Well, they had to use something tangible for the movie so it makes sense.
@@ivetterodriguez1994 yeah, i know, its very credible, but thanks to the photo literally all changed :(
@@sherlockgirl1234 I don’t remember the ending too well so I could be wrong, but did the photo ever actually come into play with the offering? What got Coco to ultimately remember Héctor was his song to her, after all.
I noticed this too. I loved the whole family part and perphaps this is why I don't mind much about the picture thing, the family aspect seemed to me like the "heart" of the film. But what you say is true. One thing I have noticed in a lot of American films is that they lean towards "hard magic systems" with highly specfic rules and systems. Día de Muertos, being a very syncretic tradition and being different in every single state of the country, is very far from having such a strict set of rules. It has a lot of symbolisms from prehispanic cultures but even those are varied. Still gotta admit I loved the film!
I was taught that we need to have a sugar skull or a picture so I guess it may vary a bit on that part
I'm Mexican and went to see the movie with my mom, I very clrearly remember when that scene came on, she (very loudly) said "oh come on! not even dead can we get rid of the fuckin migra" it felt weird, specially since that same year we applied for an American Visa and was the most horrifying, degrading and soul sucking experience of our lifes. Like we got it but we were the only ones in the group of 30 we went with, and only because we had a house ir our names, the representative even said so "no property no visa" freackin thanks dad for dying when I was 1 and leaving the house in our name, without your timely sacrifice we wouldn't have been able to go to fuckin Disneyland.
WSoulMoony dang ain’t that the harsh truth. Did you enjoy the film? Also you okay
@@Gaiwen_Li Yes, thanks ha! I'm usually not this bitter is just the video ingited some bad experiences. I loved the film in the end it's about family and all that, I still cry every time I rewatch it. My whole family loves it too.
I've heard the reason for that is because you would have a reason to go back to your country and not stay in the USA
Guau que duro!!
@@ErikAo5o4 yes, but is still really weird and an unfair requirement, I mean I don't have a property and I still have a lot of reasons to return to my country when I go on vacation. Even having the money to afford what is for me an expensive vacation abroad, I am no being able to buy a house in my country (Argentina) even if I save my hole salary for the rest of my life.
When the trailer for Elemental came out, someone on Twitter called Pixar's movies "Capitalist realism on a theological level" and it really stuck in my brain. Once you start to notice how much our imaginations have been limited to how society is currently organized it becomes scary. Both the writers of Coco and the audience are supposed to just take it for granted that even in what's basically heaven, *of course* there's still gonna be a rich/poor divide, cops and immigration border control.
Imagination being limited by the society you live in is something that happened since the first tribes thought, but i'm still glad that you realized it , since is always good to realize these sort of things no matter how late
Considering Elemental is suppose to be a metaphor for/commentary on Immigration (seemingly Immigration to America) it kind of makes sense in that context to depict the Border Control and Rich/Poor, no?
@@ryanjapan3113 I was referring to Coco when I said that.
@@NJdaniels96 Ah ok, gotcha
I feel like the difference between Coco and Elemental is that Elemental at the very least draws upon inspiration from the creator, who's Korean-American.
When I was 11 my grandmother and I wanted to cross the border to visit her family. The border patrol stopped us and looked up our passports.
My grandma had "been arrested in 1988" in Texas. My grandmother was in Mexico that year and has NEVER even been to Texas. And when I, an 11 year old, "threatened their authority" by saying that it was the first time we've ever heard of that and just the week prior we were able to go cross the border, the woman decided we were "probably hiding something" and proceeded to make us stay in that place for 5 hours without letting me call my mom because "I could be saying dangerous stuff to her". Remember I was 11.
In the end they took our visa away and even laughed in our face. I've tried to get a visa after that, but I've been denied because my mother doesn't have a visa, I am now 22 years old, why does it matter that my mother has has a visa
WTF is wrong with these people. 11 year old saying dangerous stuff. hahahhahahaahahah
Out of my usual goofery tho, why does the border control keep hiring people with the detective skills of half a carrot and the intelligence of a waterballon in the middle of Sahara.
@@vali_bg5234 I feel like it’s quite obvious (I’m not trying to come off condescending and am sorry if I do)
@@m.josena4485 Well, I actually don't see what's obvious. I genuinely can't can you explain, please.
@@vali_bg5234
The answer is institutional racism.
"U.S.A is the freest country" FUCK. NO.
I'm Puerto Rican , by birth we have american citizenship and american passports.The first time I visited the US I was held for 3½ hours because the TSA kept saying I needed a passport even though PR isn't a different country , I had my real id and all the necessary paperwork. It's a territory. A colony in all but name. It's treated as domestic. it's like going from DC to Maryland. After hours an airline representative had to be called to confirm that I was *indeed a citizen* and I was allowed to continue , worst experience I've ever had.
Mano, esta fuerte
Wepa, somos mucho
Can’t let *too* many brown people in /s
@@june4135 The thing is , i'm not even brown.
@@diegorivera5291 wtffffff
re: the poor woman who was suspected of being a drug mule. that used to happen to me a lot when i was in college because i 1) travel with very little luggage, 2) traveled a lot, and 3) have ADHD and tend to act oddly in stressful situations (touching my hair constantly, picking my nails, doing the same action to my clothes or jewelry over and over). it usually didn't go farther than just getting my things searched multiple times and taking longer to go through security, but yeah. it's real.
Same to all three points. I travel often between Spain and Italy with a third-world-country passport, and you would think since these flights are within the Schengen zone then everything should be fine but no. I've had my luggage checked so many times that I got used to account for one extra hour of "random checks" when planning my transportation to and from the airport.
I never connected my neurodivergence with the way I was being treated at checkpoints and by cops, but it makes it make a lot more sense. Doesn't make it any less stupid, though, and there isn't much I can do about my ADHD, DID, Anxiety, and Depression symptoms, but maybe I will be able to manage the situation better armed with this knowledge.
Also, I don't get what the issue is with taking only a small amount of luggage with you on a trip is? I don't want to pay baggage fees. If I can't carry it on, it's not going. :shrug:
As somebody with ADHD myself, any situation where I'm being judged for how "normal" I'm acting is downright terrifying for me. I don't act "normal" on a good day, add the stress of some unknown consequence and I probably look like an absolute nutter
TL;DR For some reason people have a problem with people who are from poorer places.
Ugh yea, many neurodiverse behaviour are associated with dishonest behaviour and it’s just so frustrating
mans really dropped 3 of the best movie commentaries on the internet and then dipped
He rrally did! I been checking since this one came out every week now every couple months i come to check on this to. Still nothing but oo the feel good opression one is a banger tht keeps making me come back
Like Nerdonymous
As a Hispanic American, I loved Coco with everything in me when it came out. This video was a slap to the face, but a much needed one. No one deserves this god awful treatment, and I cannot thank you enough for opening my eyes to it.
I completely agree with this comment (I'm also Hispanic too). ^^ I didn't realize this either, despite knowing of people struggling to come to the U.S. (my grandma had to wait for ages for her Visa to visit) or trying to fix their situation in the U.S. But this is a good video on Coco. :)
I'm latina and I really did get wrapped up in the feel-good narrative. I'm disappointed I didn't notice any sooner, but glad this showed up in my recommended
fr. i never realized how bad the movie portrayed these things until this video
Happened to me too, this hurt. I guess, when you're just used to being treated unfairly daily in an unfair system, any sort of kindness (like a movie that focuses on your traditions and not on your violence problems for once) feels so much like a breath of fresh air you cling to it, feeling gratitude towards people who were willing to look to your good side for once. You just stop noticing all the wrongs until someone from the exterior points it out and tells you that's not normal.
But then again, it's disheartening when you remember people can only look at your good side by forgetting or burying all your flaws.
It's still a pretty solid movie tho
I think you Finally put into words why I’ve always had trouble with the whole “it’s just Ernesto’s fault” plot.
I didn’t fully notice it, but my brain did.
I'd like to say I implicitly noticed it too, but I think I just disliked it because it wasn't my thing.
its amazing, it happened the same to me. i wanted to love it but only the coco scene had any effect of me.... everything else was just pleasant.
That's funny, the original draft had a "You may not have noticed it, but your brain did" reference in it haha
You like pizza rolls?
I've never liked the entire Ernesto plot angle and resolution. Though my issues with it were never based upon the inequality aspect in this society or the border control issues here (hell, as an American I hadn't even thought to analyze the border control aspects of this fantastic video). It was always about how he doesn't ACTUALLY ever have any consequences. Yea, the people in the afterlife hate him for that year and probably wont see his concert the next year, but he's still obscenely wealthy and his lifestyle doesn't actually have to change. People are still going to party it up at his rich mansion in the after life, just like they would with rich people alive. People are still buying his albums and visiting his grave site in the real world. It's nice that Hector's museum of who wrote the songs was ADDED to the community so he could get some recognition, but Ernesto was the one in the movies, selling the records, went on concert tours, he was the face of the entire operation. His albums are still selling. It's his face on others' ofrendas. He's the Mexican version of Elvis. How many people STILL in 2020 worship Elvis and how many ACTUALLY KNOW the black artists who wrote the songs he stole? Elvis is still king. And Ernesto had 0 consequences. Nothing changed outside of the immediate family - and then only really for the dead characters.
An interesting note I took away from this movie: "Due to popular culture and 'separating artist from art', Ernesto while ostricized, will forever live on because there will be at least one fan that put his music on the ofrenda
Well, I mean, yea... but is being trapped under a bell for all eternity really a good fate? Also, even if he got out, everyone hates him, so he'd probably just live in the slums or worse.
@@underplague6344 for a while yeah, but eventually people would forget, like every celebrity that gets "cancelled". woody allen who asdfggh
@@Sofia-re3hj Yea I guess, but he'd probably be pretty messed up after being stuck under that bell for so long. Probably would have some serious mental issues he'd struggle with for awhile, especially since he was already unstable enough to kill his best friend for his songs.
I get your point but it wasn't that he was just a bad person it was also that it WASN'T his art. You can't separate the artist from the art if that person isn't the actual artist that created it. I guess peopld could like his version of it but idk if they'd "remember" him in a way that keeps him on top in the afterlife
Yeah even Infamous people are still widely remembered. EG Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Ted Bundy, etc. And it's just so sad that we remember the perpetrators more than the victim.
The game “Papers Please” is so good at addressing the concept of border control and how stupid it is. If you liked this video you should definitely play it
Papers, Please is a beautiful game
It's great too, cause it'll throw things at you which make you feel like what you're doing is justified, then a curveball will be thrown your way showing you why having to check 50 different papers just exacerbates the problem.
@@Jenna_Talia letting the mother in law didn't make me feel right, i was joking with a friends about leting her die but ... tough decissions
I didn't notice a message on how stupid the border control is? I don't think it had such a message actually.
Crossing a border used to be as simple as just walking across it. No one needed all this BS simply to step on an identical patch of earth that happens to be an invisible border of a country, a concept that only exists in human imagination. It's baffling to me.
don’t forget disney tried to trademark “dia de los muertos”. (and successfully trademarked “hakuna matata”)
edit: damn this blowed up. the highest grossing theatre musical of all time is the lion king and disney still managed to botch the "live action" remake
Ew
no fucking way.... wtf disney
honestly the more I grow up the less I like Disney....
Thats evil theyre scum
The sad thing is this doesn't supries me
I straight up cried when u said the lady didnt get to see her son
Can you imagine having a loved one in a different country and it turns out they had an accident and are in critical condition or have a terminal illness? You can't even be by their side at those moments.
As a Mexican, I did enjoy Coco, along with my mother, but I did feel uncomfortable with SOMETHING in the film but I couldn't pin point it.
Now I get it. Putting the real world discrimination in a fantasy realm, especially something my family has faced before, felt so off. Kinda sinister. Especially with the Border parallels in which I've had unfortunate experiences.
And the system of the pictures=passport Id thing was weird. The ofrenda itself is something beyond monetary gain or some worldy value. It's about gratitude and love for the people who are no longer here.
so basically what you're saying is, the americans took a cultural and religious tradition about love, and made it about money... sounds familiar...
Trish!
Pero es verdad que sí no pones la foto en la ofrenda, o no vas a la tumba, no vienen :(
@@MsCrowRaven Pues no, solo hace falta recordar a la persona, por ejemplo poner su nombre en un papel con la ofrenda.
@@MsCrowRaven de acuerdo a lo que sé, la gente con foto o no viene, para eso está la vela, para que encuentren una luz que los guíe de vuelta. También, la luz sirve para invitar a personas que no están en tu ofrenda y "pasen a comer", incluso si no son de tu familia.
Eso me explicó mi madre :p
Disney/Pixar's first choice for depicting Mexican culture is... border control? And a main character illegally and literally border jumping. How nice of them.
what? they aren't border jumping, what are you on about? i get not liking disney but where in your ass did you pull this out of
Art imitates real life
but there is a choice in which part of real life they want to imitate@@RealSnuuy , as pointed out in the movies "this is the way things are" would be more justifiable if intead of police the system was just magic, the skeletons live as long as they are remembered and they can only come to the real world if someone wants them to come, no police, border control or slums were necessary
Y eso? Cuando la fui a ver al cine no pensé en eso, más bien me impresionó la interpretación del mundo de los muertos con influencias de principio del siglo XX en México
@@ufoesferico1050ah ya no manches, no te hagas p*ndejo, es una película bien p1nches racista
11:00 Literally saw this tweet pointing out the exact same thing days ago by @anildash:
“Most of what gets shared as heartwarming stories are usually temporary, small-scale responses to systemic failures. I wish we found it just as inspirational to make structural changes to unjust systems, but I don’t know if our culture knows how to tell those stories.”
So true. We’re not ready for a real systemic change... it’s like society doesn’t wanna admit it has systemic problems. It can’t face it so they celebrate the scarce micro individual successful stories because it makes you feel things aren’t as bad and keeps you from having to deal with the problem.
Ok. I finished the video..... great work on a topic that needs to be talked about. Would also like to point out that these systems are so normalized that when you call out what’s wrong about them people look at you as some lunatic. It’s hard having these conversations because many aren’t willing to hear something so unpleasant because they haven’t been affected by it - and even sometimes those who are affected by the system the worst learn to excuse it as a coping mechanism because they don’t know anything better to compare it with (kinda like not knowing what dirty water you’ve been swimming in your whole life until you get out of it). Alright I’m done. This shit is painful.
By any chance, have you read "The Soul of Man Under Socialism" by Oscar Wilde? It has much the same argument, arguing that the issue with charity is that it papers over problems instead of solving them. Wilde argued, "Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good." So it seems this concern is not new, and maybe it'd help to read the previous arguments people have made on the subject?
It's like when you see those "uplifting" stories on the news - "10 year old decides to open lemonade stand to help pay for mother's cancer treatment" - and everyone in the comments is saying how inspirational and heartwarming it is. But that should NOT be heartwarming. A young child shouldn't have to worry about how their mother will pay for treatment, and that mother shouldn't have to worry about going into debt so that she can LIVE. Just as you quoted, it's a small-scale response to systemic failures. No one should have to worry about either going into medical debt or dying. No one should die or have to be ill without treatment in this country because they cannot afford healthcare. It's ridiculous that there are so many in this country that have become desensitized to the absolute injustice of our current healthcare system. How can we not see that it's a human right and not a privilege??
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Yea, but we’re clearly stepping in the right direction
Part 3 gave me anxiety just listening to it all... I'm lucky because I'm American, but have had airport staff initially act weirdly because I look Chinese, but once they see my obviously not-Chinese/Asian name and realize I'm Asian-AMERICAN, they suddenly change their attitude. This was the same in Japan too, where I was taken out of the line I was in and lined up in a separate line with who seemed to be solely SE Asians, Indians, etc., and once they saw my passport, escorted me back to the line I was previously in - and not in the back, but back to where I had been standing initially... I didn't think much of it until now.
This happened to me when I was in Europe: I am average height and Black. I get hard stares from the immigration patrol. But as soon as the immigration sees my passport- "Welcome friend!"
Shit, now that I think about it immigration does get a lot more friendly with me when they see me with my German passport or hear me speaking English/German/French fluently than the moments before when they just see someone with brown skin... never really thought about it before. Just goes to show how privileged we are in that aspect
I'm peruvian. I never travel before, but my grandma try to get the visa two times before. They didn't give her the visa. I feel sad everytime i remember it, cuz she just want to see her sister and family again. Hopefuly she would get the visa someday.
As for me..i don't know how, but someday i gonna get out of here. Whatever it takes.
This happened to my family when we were coming back from Colombia. We went there to visit family of course, and my parents, sister and I are all US citizens, my parents originally being citizens of Colombia and Cuba. So of course we were in the US citizens line among a lot of white people coming in from Colombia too. We were the ONLY ONES pulled out from the line, and it took like 40 minutes for them to check all our passports to assure that yes we were all in fact, US citizens. Our passports were real, we were in the right line, and no we didn’t have fruit on us. I was pissed and kinda sassed the customs officers. I was like 15-16 years old so they all laughed at me and it made me even more angry, that they laughed at my anger and fear for pulling us out of line, only us, checking our passports, and really not explaining what they were doing after they had finished and sent us off to get back in line! Or they might have taken us to the front, I don’t remember anymore.
it took them at least 30 minutes for them to get my disabled dad a chair, and some of the officers were Hispanic and talked to us in Spanish! Systemic racism is real and even something like an American passport doesn’t save hyphenated Americans of other ethic backgrounds from it.
Woah. That's really fcked up.
I am a white passing girl, with a middle eastern name, born and raised in the middle east but moved to Europe now to help my grandmother. The amount of relief i see in officials faces when they see my "vaguely very middle eastern name" belongs to a white girl has been quite startling. I have been taken in by border controls once because "name and appearance don't seem to really fit together" . they had to call my teacher who had to vouch that yes. The girl in custody is her student. Yes, her first name is not european, but as you see she speaks over 3 languages, is about to go to university and is 100% an okay member of our civilization. I never felt more humiliated tbh. They also grew suspicious because I had 2 passports ( European Country vs Middle east ) and holy shit. I nearly cried out of relief coming out of there and got my teacher a huge bouquet of flowers : to her it was a mildly interesting thing that happened like "haha officials" to me it was "a young girl of 16, surrounded by 5 grown men, in one tiny room" I was soso terrified
@@spaghetti8338 safe of what?
@@lafea7364 osea que todas y cada una de las personas de color, incluso familias, son terroristas? Si no, no entiendo la obsesión con registrar meticulosamente cada persona que no sea blanca, que por cierto, no significa que no haya ningún blanco terrorista. Por la culpa de unos pocos sufren muchos, y así funciona el racismo, piensan que porque un grupo de personas de otro país son malas, eso convierte a toda esa sociedad en peligrosa. Y si encima tienen que hacerles más controles de los que YA HACEN (porque no creas que no controlan a todos por igual desde un principio), entonces tiene que ser por sospechas reales y no porque tú nombre o apellido es "diferente" o por tu pasaporte. La misma chica que escribió arriba tenía 16 años cuando pasó por todo eso, acaso piensan que una sola persona y menor de edad puede remotamente llegar a ser terrorista?
@@spaghetti8338 which people? Clearly, OP didn’t feel safe.
@@incanusolorin2607 They are trying to save the brown people from themselves! Letting them know to "be less brown" lol. The privileged will create and believe any excuse to keep the systems that favor them in place.
Spaghetti that may help you sleep at night but don't kid yourself. For Western countries people of MENA origin don't actually present greater danger than actual white people
My cousins once asked why they always visited us from America, rather than us going to visit them. My parents just told them, “there’s more family here,” but when I was eleven I understood there’s more to it than that. It’s really frivkin expensive to go to the US from India, rather than the other way round.
I'm from Venezuela so I was impressed by how close it hit me your experience in airports, I know I should be proud of my country and bla bla bla but sometimes I would like to know how it feels being completely relaxed because "I have the documents correct" and not being anxious because any tiny detail could send me to jail even if I have all my documents right
I feel the same, I am from Venezuela too. I have a huge fear of getting send to “el cuartico” ,like my family calls it, to be interrogated and even in statewide trips I can’t shake the fear of being deported.
When you wrote “I know I should feel proud of my country and bla bla bla but...” it really hit me. If the reality explained in this video isn’t bad enough, another horrible side of it is that most third world countries internalize that feeling of inferiority. I’m from Mexico and it destroys me every time someone feels superior because of our closeness to the U.S and not for our actual culture .
I have this, I feel shouldn't have because White, because I'm HoH and freshly found out autistic. That's why I find these situations stressful. I feel like I'll mishear a question (easy for me to do when I'm not tuned into an unfamiliar voice and/or accent), say yes and end up with 12 guns in my face. And that's my final answer. I cannot ask them to repeat the question and give the correct one because Too Late.
I don't feel I have the ability or time to stand there for a few extra seconds and process anything said to me, I just have to know what they said and give the correct answer immediately first time.
But honestly I can't imagine the anxiety it gives to hearing neurotypical peeps of different ethnicities who travel a lot more than I do, given the societal pre-programmed(????) nonsense we tend to be given in a lot of countries?
And also I'm Brit. So I dunno what that does for me. I can't follow the stereotype whatever it is besides having my Ps and Qs. (Manners basically.)
yeah, my parents are from venezuela and when we travelled my dad got sent to what my mom called el cuartito and he spent the entire trip nervous and telling me to act american(?) so we wouldn’t get deported, he’s always gotten suspiciously checked and he was interviewed, it really blew my mind cause it was my first time traveling and my friend (white ofc) told me the airport was fun
@@rebeccadroplet5953 yeah and we have internalized it so much that we say stuff like "saquenme de latinoamerica" (get me out of latinoamerica) on a daily basis, my country is in an economic crisis and we can't blame the pandemic because we are paying for decisions that were made more than 50 years ago! And decisions that corrupt people keep making
The portrayal of this mexican tradition from a very individualistic american perspective shows that although research was made superficially, I think it lacks depth about how mexican society works. There is actually a specific ofrenda for those who weren't given one by their families which is the "ofrenda del alma sola" (lonely soul) and with this, the worldbuilding crumbles. I find this specially worrying because with more and more mexican people who watch it and incorporate it to the tradition's lore, our culture erodes and rituals like these begin to fade and leaves it vulnerable to companies to exploit it. The glowing petals were cool tho
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I don't see how this addresses the plot. There are still people who wouldnt specifically make it onto that ofrenda.
Also, culture changes. Movies always have had this power, even in their own culture.
Isn’t Heaven also a thing in Mexican culture?
@@freddiesimmons1394 You don’t understand because you share the same American view of what Mexican culture is. …just like the filmmakers
@@beetle998 how about you tell me what it is I don't understand, instead of brushing me off.
This is such a chilling analysis - there is so much depth to the insights here.
Chilling is exactly the right word for it. Just....DAMN.
For real. Unfortunately most people won't be willing to listen or understand how fundamentaly problematic these films are. Either because of nostalgia or fear from 'pc culture'
It's very, very american to think that way. "F*** you, I got mine".
The rules of the world are not arbitrary though-it’s set by a real life culture so of course the system cannot be changed as that would require undermining Mexican practices.
Sorry the movie wasn’t as revolutionary as you’d like 🙃
Saggy Old Bagpuss no one was asking for a revolutionary ending and also who sets these “rules of the world,” you say it’s set by real life culture, so is it culture that decides which country this passport has access to or human culture that sets up border control
All of my brown friends get "randomly selected" for airport searches whether it's a domestic or international flight. When we would travel together, they'd use me as a white shield, making it clear that we were travel companions, and it actually kind of worked. It's disgusting. One of my friends was suicidal for half of his public school career because he was bullied for being a "terrorist" because of his skin color. The only instance of unnecessary screening I've seen of a white person is this one guy I went on a trip with in high school. He was slightly tan for a white person and apprently he had the misfortune of having the most generic name ever which meant it was a common pseudonym for terrorists with fake papers so he'a permanently on a watch list. Meanwhile, I totally took souveniers that I fully knew I wasn't allowed to back from Guatemala, safe in the knowledge that the worst they were going to do was confiscate them, which they didn't because my bags weren't searched
9/11 left a lot of people with so much prejudice against certain ethnicities (especially towards people from the Middle East) that this stuff happens. I get being cautious but “random selection” is total bs.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator why would you even write this ? I mean, of course you have the right, but i do not understand the point. What he wrote doesn't seem fake, why would he say it otherwise ? Maybe it is uncommon where you're from, or maybe you aren't concerned and fail to see it. People have empathy, you know, and they might feel genuinely sorry if something negative happens to their friends, or to people in general who didn't deserve it.
@@SpecterNeverSpectator what a loser
@@SpecterNeverSpectatoryou really just outing yourself as a shitty person huh
@@SpecterNeverSpectator
this is the internet. there is no obligation to reply to everything. people do not offer their condolences for "image" because there is inherently no risk in inaction
That Honduras woman's experience made my blood boil
I've become concentrated heat
i'm pretty sure my blood evaporated
yeah they were trying so hard to find a problem with her, when there clearly wasn't.
do you know where a link to the video is or info about it? Maybe her perspective?
Honestly most of the situation was for the sake of the TV show... argh
it frustrates me how i need so many things to go to "first-world" countries while they can just waltz in ours so easily. the lengths you have to go through to just go for a vacation is nuts
.I come from a small country that has been NATO's buffer against Russia since the 90s. It's clear that we will be the ones to die so that Germany and France are kept safe. My countrymen fought alongside Americans in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Yet we only got a US tourist visa under Trump (ironically). It was so humiliating to be denied that right by so many different American presidents. You won't travel here, peasants. This is where privilege really shows. Don't listen to the BS about tolerance and freedom they are spouting, look at their actions instead. That you can die for America's interests but you cannot visit. Yet Americans can travel to my country any time they want without visas.
Honestly, I'm sorry. It's devastating, I didn't actually know this happened. As a white person from a first world country, when we have the money, it's easy to go on holiday. I'm not rich, so we don't go often, but I can't imagine how much harder it is to have even more restrictions.
Don't mean to spread hate or toxicity,
But the comment above me just reminds me of the consistent clip playing across the video of the random Skeleton woman wondering how it feels to not have a photo.
It feels so embarrassing when people first world countries gawk at our troubles and could only look at it and say "Oh, I'm sorry it must be hard for you".
There's nothing "sorries" and "it must be hard for you" can do to help anymore.
@@pivotalpancake5454 i mean to be fair what do you really expect them to say even
@@CreeketsCreek replying to this because I genuinely want to know what their answer is lol
Pixar literally has the ability to create any world they can imagine, yet somehow it's always our flawed society in a different coating
Their big mistake was normalizing the flawed
Because every society is flawed, and if they didn't make it flawed we wouldn't believe it.
@@cortster12 more like ~flawed in very similar ways~
This is intentional any made up world needs to have some sort of tethering similitude to our own world
yeah dude. pretty much how you can count in one hand the alien races in fiction that aren't humanoid, don't speak english and have a culture that doesn't resemble ours. it's sad but creating things is harder than transforming them.
I just remembered one thing. That woman is Honduran. Before Spain entered the EU, it had a multilateral agreement with all the countries in Latin America. all citizens were allowed without visa for 30 days. The program was cancelled under pressure from other countries in the EU.
I don't think it changes the terrible treatment the woman had to unjustly endure, but it goes to show how this things are completely arbitrary. That woman 50 years ago could come to Spain no visa needed for 30 days. Now she can barely enter for three days with police and border control treating her like garbage.
Why is this a thing?
Simple, they want the poor to remain poor so they can donate almost nothing and say they are so kind
as someone from a country from the eu, im glad to be part of it for some reasons, but also fucking hate the eu for shit like this. If only they were fucking consistent with making sane, good decisions, rather than being contradictory all the damn time...
@@killme6715 one thing I've noticed is that it's always so stupid seeing one EU country do something so arbitrary, like with what Orban did by lying about allowing refugees and immigrants only to expel them out of the blue, what the hell did he expect by doing that????
@@killme6715As EU is made up of dozens of countries with different immigration policies there must be compromises and sometimes those have quite negative consequences like the mentioned Spanish problem
But things can always be improved and Union changed lives of many for the better
Where I am from 30 years ago trying to leave the country will get me shot. Now I can go anywhere in EU I want
Cartels and the explosion of drug exportation since the coke craze in the 70’s
I work in an immigration law office and the requirements for ANYTHING are so damn ridiculous it takes MONTHS just to get everything together Clients (particularly the American born spouses) get so upset at me and my coworkers for being so specific and asking for so much when we in fact know that if even one thing is missing they will send back all the paperwork without even looking at it Even visas for your biological family are a nightmare of paperwork, fees and waiting (often years) and keep in mind this is IN the United States often with American born individuals trying to get their families here or just come for a vist. Not only that but recently due to SOMEONE in office the requirements have become more outrageous and even longer. I graduated college, speak English fluently and I was born here but I guarantee there is no way I would be able to do a single application without having prior knowledge from my job
When I’m older I REALLY want to be a lawyer and work in immigration law. Just reading this is breaking my heart
:(. I find it horrible that so much in the system is so unjust just because of the color of our skin and where we were born.
My family was blessed to have my uncle. He was a lawyer who helped my dad, grandma, and many other relatives get their papers. I wish I could help other families in the way he did because it took me too long to realize how lucky we were.
While I hate being one of those people, immigration law needs to be strict to ensure we know who is in our borders, how long, and why. With a country as prosperous as the U.S. there are many people who want to come, some with good intentions, some with bad. Marriage fraud and family visits are sadly common ways to get people in illegally (sometimes for human trafficking). And even among those with good intentions we can't take everyone. The world has more poor and unfortunate people than the US could ever support. It's not fair to people who are here legally to lose opportunities because someone else skipped the process and it actually causes resentment between legal and illegal immigrants. We need to know if the person coming in is in a drug cartel or if they actually have family, and if they have family that they are actually going to return home after the visit. Is it way too convoluted and needs to be simplified? YES. But many of those rules are in place largely because immigration crimes are so common. - child of a legal immigrant
That sucks, I'm a white man born in Canada with an american last name, of course its going to go smoothly went I'm gonna move there. But I can't imagine how hard it must be for some, but do understand Americans are really proud of their country and protective of their territory because of history
@@Psychesrose Calling a human being illegal is immoral and supports an us vs them mentally. Don't fall for it. You can say you are a child of a legal immigrant but frankly that's irrelevant. What our parents had to do to come here to start a new life is NOTHING like what anyone has to do now. I know people who have crossed the desert and nearly died to see their children again because everyone knows getting to the United States legally is a joke. You and I are a couple of the luckiest people in the world. Had we been born a few years later we could have very different lives. If you hate being one of "those people" just dont be.
The most tragic thing about Coco’s ending is that is actually perfectly represents the inabilities of Latin American societies to change their ways of life and topple injust hierarchies. So in a way, your video actually captures an essential part of Latin American literature which is the never ending cycle of conservative modernizations (which in itself is a pleonasm, but a powerful one nonetheless) and the failing to truly ever change. This is a big thing in Brazilian literature, and directly connects with the insistence of maintaining social privileges derived from the old slavery system, in such a way that it was never really torn down. What we are left with is, on the contrary, a negative synthesis in which the opposing parts end up settling for the same thing they originally had. That’s devious, obviously, and it’s no wonder it is so unsettling in a movie, just like you perfectly describe.
@Lexdrillo in Brazil, the amazing way our president was elected was by acting like your old uncle drinking bear and sitting in the sofa saying homophobic shit and dumb jokes.
God, this is gutwrenching. As a hopeless brazilian with no perspective for the future, I feel seen by this video and it's comments.
That's exactly it. I don't think the fact that the system itself doesn't change is a bad idea, since "victory" in Latin America for the middle and lower classes is appearing to be better in the eyes of the system. Everyone hopes that one day the system will be different, but that change never comes, so you better try to do the best you can with what you have, that way you won't have it as hard as the others. Society is constantly telling us that society itself isn't the one that has to put in the effort, but us, and we are promised that if we work as hard as we can, we will someday be benefitted by that same society that once turned its back to us. The bad part doesn't go away when you succeed, you just stop living it.
Probably would have been better if Coco’s ending wasn’t handled as if it was a completely happy and positive one. But that’s not the sort of ending kids and their parents have come to expect from Pixar, and I’m not sure if the guys at Pixar were comfortable having anything less than a happy ending in a story about a real culture different from their own, which I think is a sign that they at least tried to have good intentions.
talkng about Brazil specifically, the "progress" only related to optics is so ingrained in our culture, its since the colonization. when we stopped being a colony, it was bc the Portuguese royal family needed to run away for a while. when we became independent, it was still a monarchy run by Dom Pedro. when we became a republic, coronelismo was still rampant. then just a few decades later we had the Vargas dicatorship. and a few decades later another dictatorship. these systems are so long standing, i can see why theyre treated as "natural"
As a Latin American 13 year old that had the luck of learning fluid English at a young age I always had to translate whenever we had to cross a border. I remember how the police would judge us before they knew I could understand them. It was honestly really scary hearing them talk about how we were missing one paper and then my parents asking me what they were saying. I tried my hardest to not translate their judgement for them but I knew they could tell.
You are not alone. I too was lucky to learn english at a young age, but that came with the task of being a translator for your family. The pressure that came with understanding the importance of translating accurately for the sake of everyone was tough. I'm so happy my mom has greatly improved her english and I have another sibling who can help.
Musict I wish. My sibling is a bitch he doesn’t want to translate shit for my family. That bitch isn’t gonna translate till the day I die
Same, my mom doesnt know a bit of english
The guys in immigration always said mean stuff, how Mexicans are lazy and mooch off America, among other things, certainly not stuff that I fully grasped as a child
I just translated what I understood, o was just trying to help my mom, but even then they made fun of her for relying on a child
this is so relatable, the pressure of being the one (in my case, i was also the youngest) kid in the family with the bilingual skills and translate everything for everyone at every single waking point during a vacation or other issues is real. I'm an adult now but have travelled with my family fairly regularly since I moved for college, and my parents still rely on me to be their translator. I don't want this to sound ungrateful because I do thank them for the education they provided for me, and I know how valuable it is. It's just that sometimes it's too much stress and pressure and I'm also not a professional translator so sometimes I'm not the best at translating on the spot. And I think that's a problem many friends have also gone through, we are not professionals/are not trained in the field and being a translator is an actual job/career path that people train themselves for, so it's bound to be mentally exhausting for us family translators lol
bruh
The whole process of immigrating to Canada with a study permit as a Latin American was such an awful experience that I'm convinced it actually traumatized me in some way. Just remembering it is enough to get my anxiety going.
Great video, by the way.
I thought Canada had open boarders?
What do you mean by that? That's my dream, to live in Canada someday, and it's very disheartening to know that. I hope you're okay now
@@Hi-jw7oqWe had open borders, but that was before 2001 and that was only with the US, unfortunately. It's easy for Americans and Europeans to migrate here. It's also fairly easy if you are married to someone born in Canada.
Oh no, paperwork, how horrifying.
@@joecrazy9896You have to remember that these people see consent as something they don't have to receive. It only exists as something they can offer to others.
I can't believe we've just watched this for free....
My struggle to be a decent human Bruh. Up-Vote of the century Bc of how relevant it is to the content.
100% agree
Really? Because I definitely can . .
M D elaborate, please
@@hannalowercase5928 ok, easy: everybody and their brother hops on youtube with critiques. The poster is both self-derogatory but tries to use very surface sociological lenses to interpret the movie. It is about the easiest thing to rant for 30 minutes about the scan scene and the offrenda wealth, comparing it to modern policing and income inequality. But he did basically over and over again, becoming pedantic if you already read about and study daily economic articles. This video might be mind-blowing for a 13 year old though.
35:18 I literally went “oh my god” out loud after hearing that she was handed to the police. Wtf
same here, it's outrageous
I mean... I don't wanna sound like a dick or anything, but I just burst out laughing at how ridiculously bullshit it is.
And how the fucking TV show frames it as like a sensible, morally just thing to do. It's insane.
Bro, I'm actually Nigerian. Take a moment to imagine what traveling is like for me.
I've been waiting for this comment
BRRRO I'M NIGERIAN AS WELL. My gosh I cant tell you what travelling is like with that green passport. Its like everyone thinks I wanna scam them. Like no I just want to get on my flight in peace.
This is why most time I use my American passport, no one ever questions me then.
Same here, I'm Igbo 🤟🏾
Is this specific to Nigerians or is the experience similar for Ethiopians, Tanzanians, Kenyans?
@@bananaborz1 I wouldn't know, but my guess is yes.
I find it disturbing that my niece thought the border between worlds was supposed to look like the gates into Disneyland, which is just painful considering she recently was almost locked out of the country on the way back from a trip to Baja California with my sister and her father. She actively was impacted by this system and still didn’t realize it.
When that officer lady (in the third part) said “the reason everybody is here is because we have immigration issues with them”, I’m just thinking, “we probably wouldn’t have ‘immigration issues’ if everything wasn’t already against them the moment they walk up to the counter.”
I’m probably just being ignorant, but if it wasn’t so hard and took SO LONG to cross a border, people would probably go through all that legally instead of crossing illegally.
God, honestly, listening to everything in the third part made me so freaking sad for everyone. All they want to do is either visit family or go on vacation. Especially for that woman who was going to Spain and spent 11 HOURS ON A FLIGHT, only to have her time wasted for investigation, even though everything they did there was proving her innocent. There’s gonna be some bad apples probably, but not everyone is immediately a druggie or whatever terrible thing they get accused of.
Sadly a lot of things regarding borders-like, even the concept of "crossing illegally" literally exist because of racism in many countries, like the US. They invented the idea of illegal immigrants because they wanted to force "undesirable ethnicities" to have the lowest possible immigration numbers during the Gilded Era, and it only got worse around the 30s... which led to Jewish people being murdered when they literally already crossed the Atlantic to America but were sent back.
@@idrisa7909 :,(
@@idrisa7909 You said that perfectly.
@Kab Plummer do you know why we have the distinction of legal vs illegal immigration? Because it only became a thing during the 1930s. A massive part of it being implemented was because at the time there were quotas limiting certain ethnicities and races from immigration. These quotas were implemented in the gilded age- around 1880-1890. These were literally implemented bc of racism and ethnic discrimination and led to the distinction of legal vs illegal, and they got people killed. In this case, especially Jewish people. They might not think they're being racist but this only exists because of white supremacy.
@Kab Plummer like I said it before, but the core is, if something wasn't a problem until a white dominated society got worried about its power weakening, racism is involved. Id love to believe it was about the safety of immigrants or some crap but I've been around long enough to know better. If you know why a thing was implemented and can't see the racism and other problems involved, that's a you thing, especially if you make excuses.
as someone who is considered from the "third world" its really annoying how we are always treated with such suspicion and disrespect for having a "less superior" passport. i cant explain how much of a pain travelling always is and i feel horrible for all the refugees who have to put their lives in danger just to be considered criminals for wnating to escape ther ravaged homes.
I feel similar. Only I've resolved to change that by, hopefully, helping my birthplace be that "superior country". The rules of the game have been set: the strong rule and the weak suffer. The world at large has no pity or reason to care about anyone outside their circles or immediate community. And in my mind that will _always_ be the case. Shaming, guilting, pointing it out isn't going to do shit to the simple minds of the common folk that make up the majority of the population. Trying to change a world built by creatures that are little more than upjumped apes is ultimately pointless, because it takes just one idiot or bored, rebellious generation to ruin everything. The only reliable factor that determines good treatment is power in its various forms. So either we become powerful? Or we get used to the taste of boot.
What refugees lmfao. Moving to another country isn’t a right, it’s a privilege. They can reject you if they want.
Lex Bright Raven
South America has always been a shit heap, nice deflection.
@@someguy9970 Are you going to deny that CIA coups fucked up latin america just like that?
@Lex Bright Raven 👏👏👏
On the topic of security checks can we talk about the fact that *they don’t work* at all. All they do is slow down the entire process
They work if you are a guard who wants to sexually assault people. ;)
One thing that always got me when I watched Coco was the people working at the bridge crossing. Do they ever get to cross the bridge themselves or are they people like Hector who no one remembers, but chose to deal with it by becoming arms of the system?
Class Traitors 🤯
But it's established that people no one remember die a second death, so they do have people that know who they were
Dumbest shit to ask.
@@notsogoodminion206Unless the second they show signs of dying/not being able to do their job, they get replaced.
It's pretty much an open secret here in Mexico that sometimes while crossing the american border women often get stripped down or gropped for "inspection"
Oh my wtf?? That's absolutely horrible!!!!
Yeah, a friend of mine suffered that…
She felt raped but didn’t complain for fear of losing her visa
@@Clown_the_Clown ᜆᜅ ᜊᜓᜊᜓ
@@Clown_the_Clown [X] Idiot, only two types of people work as Border Guards. People who actually care about doing their jobs, and people who are more than happy to abuse their position.
@@Clown_the_Clown woow aren't you edgy as balls mate.
As someone from a third world country too, holy shit that last part was chilling.
My mom was the one handling our papers to go visit my aunt in Europe, and by "our", I meant me, her, two other aunts, and a few of my cousins. We had to spend thousands just to get plane tickets to get our visas processed. We spent thousands to get our passports processed. We spent thousands to get all the damn paperwork that would help our visas and passports get processed. In the end, only me and my mom were able to go on the trip at all. And they still took their damn time looking over our passports at the airport, along with literally segregating travelers who came from Europe/North America and those who didn't. I don't think I recognized how unfair that was back then, but holy hell do I do now.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that this was a superb video essay. Stay safe out there.
Your passport is literally an Item of segregation.
Depending on how friendly your country is with others and what kind of reputation you have as a whole nation.
I have two passports, that isn't possible for many people.
But I am fortunate enough to have a German and a Russian passport.
The German Passport is on of the passports with the most privileges. I can travel all over Europe and for a certain amount of days to many other places.
I also have the Russian passport, which is also beneficial but no where nearly as the German.
My mom doesn't have the same privileges.
I can travel anywhere. Trip to London, no problem.
My mom on the other side has to get a visa like 3 months in advance. She has her to travel to London... She always wanted to go. But it's hard to plan with 3 month or more planning beforehand.
Thanks to her I have my Russian passport and thanks to that I can visit my family. Without that passport it would be very tedious.
However if my mom decided to take on the German passport... She wouldn't be able to visit her family without a visa. 3 months or more in advance.
She would like to vote her. She has lived here for over 22 years but then she couldn't visit her family easily... Which would be especially bad, since we have a lot of family that is older.
It's unfair.
And I am so privileged in that regard but I can't really change that.
@@natnuss98 Three months? That's it? When we want to plan a vacation, it's about a year in advance to make sure everything is booked, time off acquired, everything is taken care of. Even then, we never leave the country because the U.S. is a massive place.
Seems like the height of privilege and affluence.
I think it is unfair but if your country isnt doing so well and has a lot of criminality people are gonna be suspicious. It isnt against you specificly just against the country
clara ao melody my passport is Canadian and I have an expired Norwegian one for some odd reasons, but like I went to usa by car and they didnt even ask how many days I was going in.
@@aaronbrown8377 it's possibly the opposite, if you're poor your job might tell you on the day when you'll be getting weeks without work next. If you have to work any time there is work then you can't know these things that far in advance. Two groups of people don't plan ahead, the rich who can do whatever they want, and the poor who are at the whims of every richer person and broken system above them and have no say over their breaks.
I was NOT expecting to get triggered by a Coco video... as someone with a "third world" passport, I CAN RELATE 100%. Thank you for addressing how messed up the border system is.
@@WhaleManMan Because this is a video about the systems in coco and the later half of the video is about systems in real life. The flaws of the system are already obvious to the original commenter seeing as they are from a third world country and watching a video that so seamlessly illustrates the issues is worth complementing. To then passive aggressively suggest that they aren't doing enough to fix a multinationally funded system is absurd.
@Kiki M. you sound like a judgmental person.
You may think that traveling equals money. Guess what? When you have a "shitty" passport or have traveled to many "third world" countries, your money and your whiteness are irrelevant. They will treat you like garbage at the border. They will make you feel like they can take your papers away at any moment. They will insult you and your identity, and get zero consequences for it. I guess it's something that you have to experience to understand. Or be open minded/empathetic, who knows.
@Kiki M. wtf is with you dude? Getting mad over a comment shh
I used to have a "third world" passport, my parent's payed a lot to change it to the one I have now, I still remember how much more we were questioned by border petrol...
same. i applied for a US visa twice. saved. got turned down both time. nada.
When he started talking about stuff, I was shocked to find out that people from first world countries have it to much easier. My whole life I’ve just assumed that stressful visa interviews, passport control interrogations and all that is the norm for everyone..
Nope its really different haha, I am on year 10 of 22 years of a waiting list to get my green card for the US. I meet this english guy in Los Cabos working in a cafe, he told me that he moved to the states, I ask him how, apparently it only took him around one year to get his papers and find a place in the US, I still have 12 years left in waiting in Mexico :)
Going from the USA to Australia, even impoverished and on my partner's dime, was still mostly easy and took about three months. It's just expensive as fuck. In "first world" countries they brick the poor in still and I would never have been able to make the trip at all with minimum wage working for the hospital. Yeah I'm a healthcare worker and can't afford to leave.
Frankly I hate passports and the evil fuckers who came up with it. Used to be you could just hop in a boat and land wherever you wanted in the world. I missed the margin of getting to be a nomad by less than 100 years. Keeping people caged in their countries is barbaric and inherently exploitative. If they can't pay your fees to leave you have indentured servitude for life no matter where in the world. I envy Europeans so much, those open borders where you can just take a fuckin day trip to Denmark and go back home to France pisses me off that the rest of the world can't have that because the government wants to keep their slaves.
As someone from the US who as never left the country (since I was a baby, at least) and has heard the horror stories from everyone else, i kinda assumed so too tbh-
"If x group opressed, why like 5 people from that group are successful, huh??"
“How can global warming be real if its snowing right now, huuuh?”
The fact people actually say stuff like that, is really sad.
"If white people are priviliged, than why is there this ONE white guy who aint a millionaire but is homeless?"
“Racism doesn’t exist. I see POC around me every day.”
Clowns, clowns everywhere. 🤡
@@canvas_125 I mean like tbf Asians do make way more money on average than whites do in the USA. So if there were only 5 Asians living in the USA but they're all ultra billionaires than the argument falls apart ya clown
Omg I never realized the knee on his neck. That's crazy...
My jaw just dropped when I saw that...!
Umm you’re point?
Yeah, that's a common technique to pacify criminals who were resisting arrest. It's a thing before you-know-who.
劉木 this is very true, but it’a still a cruel way to do so.
@@cc-bk4cy in exese i agree especially given what happened to you know who but it usually isn't used in such an evil disgusting way most of the time its just to incapacitate a "dangerous" person
you just tricked me into educating myself- thank you. Seriously. Thank you.
The best type of education
“hehe coco video :)”
41 minutes later
“Ah.”
The scene at 18:48 is magnificent, when the guy Hassan is talking the telescope gets the big image like a representation of his point of view and when the Basha talks the telescope gets this small image as his narrow and evasive point of view and then in changes again with Hassan amazing, is the little details man I swear
As a South Asian, it really hit hard during the 'thrid-world' segment, it reminded me of when i was young, how i wanted to travel the world and experience different cultures and so on but then reality hit and i realized that may never be a possibility for me, and sort of gave up on that dream but i still long for it.
Never give up!!!
Do it!
@@Ghidorah96 lmao what
I agree, don't give up. There are more ways than one to get your goals. However you worship, bring your goals to God or however you know divine love. Pray how you will about them and be aware of changes in your life and opportunities. Take up those opportunities that point you to love and your goal. I have seen this happen in my life. More than once.
I would like to see you reach your goals! Much love and success to you!
tldr
Don’t emotionally engage people by showing them a victim of an effed up system without acknowledging that the system is effed up and should be changed
Are you going to change life and death because death is totally unfair? lol, good luck on your noble quest.
@@osakawayne Bruh it was a tldr of the video talk to the creator if you don’t like it lol
@@osakawayne border control is not a natural process like life and death is. humans made it up, we control how fair it is
@@osakawayne do you know what you said makes no sense right?
That’s so fucking stupid. That isn’t the point of the movie, it’s just supposed to be used as world building. Not every movie with a systematic obstacle is required to have the character completely derail the plot to tear it down.
I’m very clearly black and have encountered some very skeptical border agents when traveling abroad. I’m pretty sure what saves me every time is the fact that I have a US passport.
This video was so well done, and informative. New sub here!
And it's crazy how much the way you look affects the overall experience of traveling. I am mexican, and my mom is part german, so we look relatively white. That, summed with the fact that my family is very privileged, makes our entering into the USA extremely easy. Out of my siblings, i am the least "white-passing" but when we are all together it doesn't seem to matter. One time while I was traveling on my own, I passed migration in Germany. I was almost seventeen, and got "randomly" stopped 3 times. A family friend was supposed to pick me up in France, and I almost didn't make the connection flight because a woman took me to a private room and asked me to take off my hoodie so she could inspect me. I repeatedly told her that I was only wearing a bra under my hoodie, but she didn't seem to care. Eventually, she put her hand under my hoodie and checked that i didn't have anything stuffed in my bra. After she let me go, security also stopped me and after inspecting my backpack, they took a small, carry-on lamp I had because "i could hurt someone with it". That experience definitely tarnished my views on the country my grandma is from.
Hurt someone with a small lamp?
I wonder if they just liked the lamp and wanted it for themselves :D
I'm sorry that you had to experience this. We are also not white but luckily we don't often have any encounter with the police and if we have they're ok or even nice.
The police/security here is very strict with their rules and take everything away from you that could be a potential danger. Everytime I fly I see dozens of cremes and perfumes in the bin because they take the whole security thing very seriously.
Of course there is racism here and group of nazis that wanna make trouble but overall we don't have to think about our race on a daily basis (unless you meet new people,but I personally find this pleasent than annoying). At least here in Berlin the society is very diverse and welcoming of different kind of people
I can't believe a lady molested you for being Mexican...revolting
She put her hand in your bra?? I’m pretty sure that’s sexual assault!
It is sexual assault and people on power taking advantage of their position, that said its legal and encouraged 🤢 by the tsa
Damn. So I'm from Honduras, and when you got to the part of the real world systems it hit me. People from first world countries in the upper middle class don't have to gather papers for months to go to the embassy on a specific date to wait for their Visa interview. And it really boggles my mind how I never thought about it. My naive ass honest to goodness assumed this was the norm for everyone.
You're actually incorrect. As someone from a first world country I can assure you that my fellow countrymen definitely do not have to be from the upper middle class or even the lower middle class to be able to travel abroad without a hitch. I'm personally too poor to travel, but if I wanted to buy a ticket, even I could just wave around my passport and I'd be fine.
Correct me if I'm not wrong, but whether or not it is easy to travel from country to country is dependent on how "strong" your passport is, and is also affected by the relationship the country you're travelling to has with your country right?
@@courier772 That is correct, sometimes diplomatic crises can make things worse for travelers.
Maybe it's not a deep long comment about the topic, but as a mexican, I would like to say: thank you for respecting mexican culture.
I'm white, bilingual, middle class, from a South American developed country, and I get terrified when I travel to the US because I've been treated like trash. And if I, being this privileged, have been treated so poorly, I cant even imagine what it's like for others.
I HATE those airport shows, they just feed those agents' egos and make people even more prejudiced against immigrants, and SHAVOKADOO is my favorite vine ever.
Thank you so much for this amazing video.
Chile?
"Being this privileged" -🤓
At least she has more compassion than you lil brownie@@RealSnuuy
@@RealSnuuy Your legacy on this earth is Ankha zone uncensored 18+
@@oligarchies
wrong this isn't my main
my legacy is gonna be for exposing a roblox predator
when you were talking about passports, i was instantly reminded of when i was going to the uae, and had landed, the border guy at the airport asked my dad where we were from, and when my dad said we were syrian, he went silent, and looked deeply troubled. then, when given out canadian passports (we’re first gen immigrants), he gave us a toothy grin and said our visas were good for forty free days in the uae. it was a formative moment for my fifteen year old self, ha
As a white-passing Iranian woman who has immigrated to Europe, the last third of this video was completely on-spot. The visa process is so, so, so humiliating, and the sheer time it takes for most "first-world" countries to even process the request (for some countries, it takes 10-12 months to process the request) is a horrific deterrent. And it's just the beginning. Integrating into "first-world" countries with a thrid-world passport is just... hard to describe. Having panic attacks in airports, banks and while in any bureaucratic process has become normal for me.
You should probably get that checked
@@guyferrari8124 What?
As a Persian girl from a fairly wealthy family, I haven't even been able to once travel to somewhere that is not Middle_east my entire life :)
On the other hand my sister has a Netherland passport and she is free to go to wherever she wants
At least other nationals from "third world " can open a fucking bank account. Just email any bank outside of Iran and tell them yeah I'm Iranian and I'm a student who wants to open a fucking bank account to pay my tuition but they will be like you know what? You kind of seem to be funding all terror organisations that have ever existed and you are definitely the bad guy I suspect.
Oh my, this is such a relatable experience - while I love love love travelling, I hate the experience of dealing with the passport control and customs, I get anxious all the time, because something can go wrong (because I've experienced it several times as I've lived half of my life not in a country of my birth and citizenship) at the most random of moments, for no real reason, so there's always this expectation that they'll stop me, won't let me in, send me back to my country, etc.
This video is really important. Even from first world countries, POC often have piles of extra paperwork than white people. While traveling to Germany with classmates, I was one of two POC students. My friend was black, and the rest of the class was white. Logically, she and I would only need first world country paperwork. Passport, birth certificate, not much else. She and I were prepared to be stopped 20 extra times. We both got education visas, multiple copies of our birth certificates, kept copies of letters from our bosses basically saying we were good people, our REPORT CARDS just in case, copies of student IDs, and we even made efforts to make ourselves look "less problematic". She had her hair taken out of its braids and wore it with a pink headband, we both wore our nicest clothes even though our classmates wore jeans and plain sweatshirts, I even switched from contacts to my glasses because MAYBE that will make me look less threatening. And we're STILL privileged when it comes to the world of traveling as POC because we both speak English with no accent, we both come from America, and we were ABLE to get all of those papers in the first place.
Whenever I cross to the US I shave my beard completely because I have a middle eastern complexion when I leave my beard too long. Also haircut two or one day before.
i hate this world haha
Yeah, I have an EU passport and I completely acknowledge the privilege that comes with that. But I also face some issues at the airport despite my passport. I was asked when entering an EU country, why I was entering (remember as an EU citizen, I have freedom of movement). They made me show them my acceptance letter to the university I was going to attend. Four years later, I was taken aside and searched when entering the country to graduate and also asked why I was there and for the details of my travel, like the date of my graduation. I also do the thing where I try to look "less problematic". I smile and wear pink lol. I try to pretend I'm rich sometimes, too. But that completely backfired once, I was searched and questioned by officers that later admitted to me they were looking for drug dealers/smugglers.
Yup! I am a short Asian woman, so luckily I am not usually categorised as threatening, but I still rarely bring a big suitcase and I always make sure to pack it in a way that's easily put back if searched. Nothing fragile.
Colored people
Bro really has made THREE videos that were AMAZING and then dipped. 😢 I hope he comes back to make more one day.
I keep coming back every once in a while to see if there's been an update :/
Fr bro dropped three masterpieces then dipped
even his twitter has been dead since 2021. i hope hes ok
Shit is he dead?
@@nelonwa7754 maybe. At this point anything is possible.
This reminds me of something I read recently. Where I live we frequently hear stories of people who studied under street lamps because they didn't have electricity, burned the midnight oil & everything, overcoming impossible-seeming odds to achieve good things & these people are propped up as ideals to aspire to emulate. No one asks why the fuck they had to study in the street & didn't have electricity at home in the first place. It's a romanticization of suffering & nothing else.
Yes! I hate seeing posts that venerate the outliers who beat the system. We shouldn't be praising people for having to fight tooth and nail for opportunities they should have never even been denied, and instead, critiquing the systems that would set someone so far back. What they did is amazing but they should have never even needed to do it. Late-stage capitalism at its finest
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" _Your_ suffering builds character. _We_ are just fine, thanks all the same."
Reminds me of those kids who had to use Taco Bell wifi to get all their online homework done every day.
This reminds me of a story in Malaysia, where a 19 y/o girl in Sabah had to climb on top of the tree just to get some internet connection to attend her university exams during the Movement Control Order.
Some think of this as "inspirational" but it has opened a lot of people's eyes that there are states in that have little to no access on internet connection and have fallen behind technologically.
Everyone in the states has at least 1 racist family member. I was arguing with one of mine on social media about immigration and I told her, "I don't think that simply being an American on American soil makes my life more valuable than someone not born here being on American soil." and she simply replied, "I do." Stories like this are eye-opening only for people who have souls.
I guess I don't have a soul. Because the only thing this story told me is "people can be terrible, even if they are in your family or friendgroup, even if you are a good person." and if that is eye-opening I'm surprised people don't know that already.
I genuinely don't understand how people can say shit like "not being born in [country] makes you less than human" without batting an eyelid. I'm lucky enough to be australian and white but BECAUSE I'm Aussie and white 100% of my ancestors are immigrants or colonists. And it's the white people here saying "stop the boats" and shoving these people desperate to find somewhere halfway safe into torturous camps where they're treated worse than dogs in pounds because they haven't immigrated "the right way" it's so fucked up.
people like that frustrate me so much because how do you change their opinion? they're obviously not using logic, so using logic in your argument is useless. it makes me so mad because I cant just walk away from someone who thinks like that and let them think they're right. but I don't know how to change their opinion.
Everyone, no matter what colour they are or where they're from, has at least one racist family member.
I think that thinking those people don't have souls is part of the problem. It makes it easy to hate them and to not try to bring them around. Every human being is capable of great evil, it merely takes the right circumstances to bring it out. We are all of us equally human.
I'm colombian, and to this day I still remember how my mom got a job offer to study english in United States and her visa application got rejected because she didn't speak english?!?! Like wtf. Yo this day after a few applications, she doesn't have a visa. And I was also rejected once.
To be honest, the worst part of the process is they don't tell you the reason why you're being rejected in order to try to fix it, they just tell you "no", after a huge economic effort just to get to that point.
Same thing in Mexico. It’s horrible. It’s no wonder people go through the hard way because the own systems in place fail most of the time.
Immigration is on the whole, a dehumanizing thing, but one thing you need to remember is places like the US and Canada get thousands of applications everyday. Border officers do not have the time to go through an application with someone and show them what they did wrong. Is this a problem? Absolutely. But, we need to realize that there are thousands and thousands of people trying to move to places like US because they believe it means a better life.
We need to solve the issues that make people want to come to America in the first place.
america really be acting like they're the main characters? it's stupid
I'm Colombian too, and one of my aunties actually lives on USA (she is Colombian too) she comes to our country to visit the family or to just update her residence, and every time she is being inspected on the border she fucking gets stopped and investigated, even though SHE HAS BEEN LIVING THERE FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS
And for us is like that all of the time, Colombians have a 80% chance to be stopped by the officers in the USA
@Kitty Kat she would study... To know?
I'm confused about your confusion
My mans single handedly dismantled the "well if they immigrate legally I don't have a problem" argument.
I had no idea how ridiculously hard it is to get a visa let alone a passport around the world.
"Just get your fricking passport, alien!"
Me: ...
... You have 3 seconds to get tf out of my face!
The best part is when they deny your tourist visa but refuse to tell you why so all you can do is pay again to apply with sightly different forms and hope you got it right this time with no indication of what you need to get approved!
The "just come legally" argument are only uttered by the ignorant and privileged and incredibly irritating.
L Lin
Exactly!
I sometimes wonder whether this problem would be fixed if only the privileged wouldn't be so ignorant...?
@@liberpolo5540 Yeah, but I would argue apathy is a much more devastating problem especially when people are comfy.
I myself have to admit that I'm not an activist, all I can do is donate and be vocal about these issues...
This one reason why WALL-E is my favorite pixar movie, that status quo actually changes for the better for everyone.
Part 3 of this video was a perfect encapsulation of the idea “you’re so privileged you don’t even know how privileged you are, because you have no concept of how many little - but all encompassing - ways other people are oppressed”. As a person of privilege, it was deeply uncomfortable to watch, but even that statement is ridiculously privileged because that’s people’s lived reality and I just had a tiny peak behind the curtain. I both love and hate learning information like this, but I think (or hope) that at least learning it makes me a better, more empathetic person. Definitely made me an instant subscriber.
@@honda-akari Why is that?
I feel the same. I have the luxury of the choice to look away, but many others don't ever get that choice and have to live with that shit every. Single. Day. My only verbal thought while watching that segment was "holy shit."
And I previously had the audacity of being frustrated of the process of getting a passport, when it was infinitely easier than what was described in the video.
@@honda-akari will you elaborate, please?
This describes my feelings exactly.
White guilt lol.
39:53 look at how the man on the left pulls his wife away from Hector while he's trying to run across.
When I tell you that I NEVER would have expected this to go where it went, I really couldn’t have. This hit me different because I’m from the US and my parents are from Mexico and when me and my younger sister always talk about wanting to visit other countries my mom always says she wants to go too, but since she has a Mexican passport it’s hard to imagine that our way of wanting to travel and her way of wanting to travel are drastically different. I’ll never forget the day I went to Mexico to visit some family my mother was telling me how lucky I am to have the passport that everyone wants (US passport) and it broke my heart to think the woman who raised me was seen as a second class citizen just cause of where she was born.
Fuck the system, fuck ice and open all boarders
I describe myself as pro border (I am brown). I have family/friends that want to come here but they are going through the immigration process as well. I would not want them to be targeted by ice or border security. My knowledge of the immigration process is not strong but I still have high hopes that the legal process they are going through goes well. Edit: I want the immigration process to be better. I am limited on what I can say about the immigration process. I was born here.
Kiki M. The US is my country what do you mean by US “culture” the US is a melting pot of many cultures, and protect the US from what, people seeking a better life? what I have seen over and over in my own life is it’s always the people who have it good who stop caring about others and their struggles
Jose Sosa the immigration process is long and tedious and it take years to even get a response, years that people don’t have time to wait for, I think most people should realize that other people leave their countries because they aren’t in a good place (government or otherwise) and they don’t have all this time to wait for a response. We can all hope that it goes well but that’s not what is happening
@@Camila-xj2nz I am an artist. Sad for me to say but I am limited on what i can say about immigration. I am happy that my foreign family and friends are happy in dominican republic(where i am from). A cousin/close friend of mine has parents that are already citizens (or have their papers, whatever the correct wording is) but they don't have their papers for their son. I still remain hopeful but i am glad that we are having the border conversation.
@Kiki M. Have you ever lived in Europe? I am german, and the whole "refugee destroying western civilization" narrative spouted by alt-right pundits is nothing more than fearmongering. I live in an area where many refugees found a new home, i see hijabis every time I go shopping. It's very quiet and peaceful, we have rainbow flags hanging out of windows, and some neighbors even campaign for helping the refugees stuck in Moria. The people who call refugees violent terrorists have probably never seen one. Of course some became aggressive while they were stuck in crowded shelters with no privacy, but the same thing happened back when people fled from east Germany after the reunification. If it was my home being bombed or my family starving to death I would try to escape too, there is nothing "evil" about that. I want to add that I absolutely HATE it when US americans or other non-europeans talk about how europe is decaying because of open borders. I enjoy traveling across neighbor countries and my new neighbors don't harm me, thank you very much.
I am from Nigeria. This video has me feeling very emotional because one of the main reasons why I am studying medicine is to have slightly easier access to a visa and probably to leaving my country . And what’s worse is , in addition to all of the horrors of immigration, my government specifically works on and announces ways of frustrating our movement in and out of the country even more.
I do hope it gets better even though I highly doubt it.
Probably because mass immigration causes brain drain
I was born in the US and I've never been outside the country. I've always has this vague understanding that I have unfair unjustifiable privileges over others when it comes to travel and immigration and things, but I've never known the firsthand details of what it could be like for someone, so this was very eye-opening. Flying within the country is stressful enough for me as it is, but something like this I just couldn't imagine. Fucking horrible.
I'm mexican, white passing and speak fluent English.
Whenever I travel with my family is a certainty that one of us (usually my parents) will get detained and searched, interrogated and the such.
It's such a pervasive issue that literally everyone I know has to plan for extra hours in case we get detained, so we don't lose tours or have problems with reservations.
It's completely normalised and whenever you plan a trip you have to plan for the possibility of not being allowed entrance, even if you went through all the hassles.
Hell, you have to plan a trip ~6 months in advance because the visa process is lengthy and outdated, people from 3rd world countries have literally no posible way to have a spontaneous trip anywhere
The fact that you are speaking to people from all over the world in your mother language, without ever having to learn another one to travel (because everywhere in the world should have english translated signs, right? Because everyone in the world should be able to speak your language, right?), get a job (and it's the /basic/, I'm on my 3rd or 4th language by now and still dont know if I'll be able to get one), consume your favorite contents and all is already in itself a privilege.
People don't need your pity in the form of a youtube comment. If you think it's unfair, go stand up for them.
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It’s a first step though. It’s great that this person has gained this awareness. It’s impossible to act for change when you’re not even aware there’s a situation that needs changing.
Same. 🥲
Got PTSD from your description of border control. As someone with an African passport, the way I've been treated has legitimately made me hate traveling.
As an African even I had no idea it was this bad
Fuck them. I hate them for you. They have no right to treat you in a scary way. I used to work retail, and in no way did we ever treat people and kindly.
The woman who didn't do anything... If I was in her place I can imagine my anxiety sky rocket, that poor woman. Plus if they don't know if she takes some medication or not than some medication (specifically few antidepressants) can make a specific drug test fakely positive. I can't imagine how much worse would that make it for her because I can imagine they just wouldn't hear her out over their blant racism.
I tell you, I now suddenly feel so goddamn ashamed of my our country's system ...!
@@liberpolo5540 Then move and taste a slice of real oppression somewhere else.
@@1SpicyMeataball - First off, people can criticize their own system. Why is it that other people are heroic when challenging their governments, yet we as Americans can't do the same? Just bc other places are more oppressive than our country, that doesn't mean we should accept our system just bc it's a little less shitty. Other countries aren't as economically-stable enough to help their citizens. Yet we're the richest country in the world, so what's our excuse for all the unemployment, low ranking education, increasing mortality rates, decreasing fertility rates, inaccessible healthcare, constant mass shootings, crumbling infrastructure, opioid crisis, high homeless rates, high suicide rates, highest incarceration, growing corruption, etc? What's our fking excuse? Nothing, we have NO excuse. I suppose slave abolitionists, women suffragists, civil rights advocates, etc. should've all just moved to another country instead of trying to make our nation better. The amount of ignorance & arrogance that you have is shameful.
Second of all, trust me alot of us would leave America if we could, but most of us are financially stuck here. If we had the mobility to drop everything, many of us would leave in a heartbeat. America is not truly "free", nor is it the "best" in the world. There's plenty of beautiful countries out there with a high happiness index rating. My dream is to retire as an expat. The cost of living & inflation in America is gonna get worse. I'm gonna go live in a beautiful country in South America or Asia where my retirement savings can sustain me. America will continue to burn, flood, riot, and crumble. And I'll be long gone in a tropical paradise where everything is cheap and the people are lovely.
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You know America is is a hella ton of debt, right?
Like, yeah that doesn’t excuse a lot of the scummy things the government does, but when you realize that some things make a lot more sense.
Good luck moving to some other country though. Every place has its pros and cons, so I hope you find a nice place who’s pros outweigh their cons for you.
Can Someone tell me the names of some shows like this. I'm pretty suicidal and I just want to snap.
The "inspirational story" thing, reminds me of that post saying something along the lines of:
"every American feel good human interest story is like "this man paid 4,000 dollars to stop a kid from going to the orphan crushing machine" but never talks about why there's an orphan crushing machine and why it costs money to not operate it."
Yesssss
I’m blown away. I didn’t realize how privileged I am simply because of the country in which I was born. I used to share the opinion of “if they don’t want to be deported they should immigrate legally” because I thought it was just as easy for people in third world countries to immigrate as someone in a first world country. I now realize the flaw in the way I thought before. I always knew I was privileged from being born into a first world country and into a middle class family, and I’ve always tried to be mindful of my privilege and use it to help those who aren’t as fortunate. Thanks to this video, I now have the knowledge I didn’t have before and now I know why I should stand up for those who are trying to immigrate, rather than continuing to normalize such an unjust system
Why does this comment sound so condescending.
So basically you feel guilty over something you had no control over?
And that's a big part in what you can do is share the knowledge in hopes that a majority of people acknoweldge it and are indignant enough to reach cirtical mass.
It sounds liberal to complain from a tower of privilege but, its much better to know than not know and be proud in your ignorance.
If you know better then you can do better.
Knowledge is power.
Yes, do what you can with those you meet but, I can understand the idea of powerlessness in a system greater than you but knowedge, i think, is the first step to solving this issue.
Telling ignorant people about the inequality of border policing is one way to garner sympathy and ease of border control.
There's a lot of people who want to contribute to America and work. They just need opportunity.
Also be aware you never stop learning. Always be open to learn more.
One of the hardest things for someone to do is admit they were wrong when the people around them continue to perpetuate a false narrative out of fear and bigotry.
Good on you for breaking out of that narrative. Hopefully more people follow.
I actually had no idea about how difficult travelling was for "third-world" country residents, since im from a "first-world" country, thats actually insane.
Thats just travelling man, immigration and escaping from violence and death is even harder.
it's actually sad how there are many like you before of this video, they try to not make you all know, it's really something else
I didn't really know either. But I've head of people sneaking in with crazy shit so I always thought it was deserved. But a lot of people are completely innocent and they get harassed.
I wish they had gone the more mystical route. If the afterlife is a slightly more miserable version of this life (for everyone, as it has more limitations, less beauty, etc), and you die there again, what's the point?
I haven’t been able to quite put my finger on my wariness around more recent Pixar films. I’ve felt a bit cynical, like people mistake them for great movies because they’re great at making you cry. But even while I was sobbing at Coco or Inside Out I felt a bit resentful.
I mean I cry in Wall-E during the space dance, because it’s so transcendent and joyous and imaginative and beautiful.... it makes me feel good about being alive and human.
And I think, now that this video has helped me articulate it, that there’s something increasingly depressing about Pixar giving the impression of not being able to imagine beyond the depressing systems of our own world.
So I feel a bit cheated in these more recent moments of high emotion because they’re not GIVING me anything, they just know how to really effectively say “isn’t that SAD?”.
And I think fiction can do better than that.
@@kathrynmiller4240 agreed. I think this tendency started with Toy Story 3, an attempt to revive a franchise special for its creativity by bringing back themes from the second movie in a depressing note. The ending is beautiful, but the threat of abandonement persists, looming in the imortality of the toys. What was a problem easily solved in the simple story of the second movie turns into an unsolvable and almost cynical dilema in the very existence of the toys: the more "realistic" approach explicits the curse of seeing the kids you were made for lose interest in you, and ultimately die. What was almost a fairy tale turns into a nihilistic world, where your very existence is absurd.
OK, I took it too far, but this is so different from the delightful (pun intended) view of life in Ratatouille! And how powerful is The Incredibles! There isn't a lot of emotional moments, the stories don't pull your crying cords, but they mesmerize you in a chilling way, opening new worlds before you.
Finding Nemo, UP and Wall-e, on the other hand, have their heart-wrenching moments, but they always build up to it, offering scenes of wonder and almost transcendent beauty, as you rightly put it.
@@kathrynmiller4240 my thoughts exactly
Actually, in the mexica mythology the Mictlan is part of the underworld, kind of the beginning of the journey
when i (eventually) die, if the afterlife is like the coco one , i think i'd neck myself tbh
I feel like having the need to add a border control to a movie about Mexican Culture speaks volumes about the biases the people behind the movie have in general
I love the quotes on the "first world and third world country" because it is bullshit
It does not
@@PapitosArt first world countries are countries that sided with the us in the cold war, second sided with the ussr, third didn’t side with nobody please read before you speak
God that part with the Honduran woman made me tear up
I DIDN’T KNOW ANY OF THAT.
I just turned 18 a few days ago - I’m a legal adult, I’ve been on the internet, and for a white woman in New York, I thought I was actually more knowing of the rest of the world than a lot of other people I know. But I didn’t know ANY of those border horrors - simply because we simply say “crossing borders is hard” and never have conversations/information about these actual experiences unless we take the time to actually inform ourselves. I didn’t understand just how people’s home/currently-staying-in countries were so monumental in the visa process/access, I didn’t know so many got rejected, I’ve never been privy to this reality (even though I’ve flown a few times!) and I blame myself and my society for not making this a bigger deal. How are we so blind? Why are stories still making villains when we need stories about reality and systematic wrongness far far FAR more?!?
Just know - thank you for making this video. So many people growing up in the system are making the rules the same as always, either not caring for y’all’s struggles or not knowing a damn clue about them, and I’m horrified. I’m really glad I actually know something now - if only something! - about this. Damn, this is terrible. And worst part is that I know I sound like that character from Coco - “oh, I don’t know what I’d do if not one displayed my picture!” - and I don’t know how to change that. Damn.
Me neither; this video just made me aware of all this. I've been trying to involve myself a lot more with social activism these days, and I've been educating myself as much as I can on what's been going on in Yemen, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Belarus, Serbia, Poland, Russia, and of course the US where I live, but I feel like outside of educating myself and making other people aware of injustices, there's not a lot I can do.
Ocareening Right on - I constantly feel like anything I do will always come off as patronizing, unknowing, or unwanted, because I haven’t been through any of these struggles myself. They’re not wrong to assume so either - the track record of history supports those notions, and like we just saw, there’s a lot of stuff we don’t know regardless of how “smart” we are compared to our peers in the first world.
I feel helpless - I do nothing and that solves nothing obviously, or i try to do something and run the risk of having an ill-informed opinion, or even worse, learning incorrect information and ending up spreading that. There’s no “correct” way to help the world, but there are many wrong ways, and I’m terrified of doing one of them due to my ignorance. I try to keep up with some of that news, but...ugh, it’s so easy to distance myself and get distracted by college planning or a book or something else. A cold harsh truth that I wish the people going through visa processes also had.
The world and how it works is sickening.
Seconding this! I honestly started the video cause I thought the title sounded like a pretentious stretch. Holy cow, I was so wrong. Thank you so much for making this!!!
Damn. Wait till you hear about the conditions US Border control keep trapped immigrants in. Or till u hear how during covid-19 they have been spraying immigrants with toxic disinfectant multiple times a day , disinfectant that is NOT meant for human contact only for surfaces. Or till you hear how ICE has become a domestic and international spreader of covid-19 and how these countries with relatively low covid cases have sky rocketed due to deportations by the US and now the countries are dealing with a health crisis that their system is not at all prepared to handle. Or wait till you hear how border control will SLASH water jugs and trash food left for immigrants to leave them to DIE in the desert because that's just how it is. etc. Etc. Etc. Never stop learning.
Awakat Illuminado yeah no kidding. I hate the culture/school system that never taught me this shit.
serious respect man. Life can be a right piece of shit.
It's important to have some sort of way to express your self during whatever is happening but especially when dealing with things out of our control. I adore the consideration of us even though we play such a small part in your life. This videos existence shows us that.
From the absolute bottom of my heart thanks dude. Push through.
I think something you forgot (or maybe did not stress enough) to say in the "how getting an entry visa works in real life" part is that the embassy interviewer can deny you the visa for absolutely NO REASON and they are not forced to tell you why. The can just wake up one day, decide that they are going to deny the visas to as many people as they feel like doing so and there is absolutely nothing that these people can do about it because "hey, thats completely legal".
Their job is literally check your vibe and if you cannot be vocalized but they just have the wrong feeling that's their job to identify that. If you don't like it make your government better so they can negotiate on the global stage
@@WillBilly.The problem with that argument is that "they have the wrong feeling" opens the door for a whole host of prejudices. It rests on the assumption that these people are unbiased and are not acting on any racist, classist, or xenophobic motivations. They can just say one thing when they really mean another. Putting the fate of a person's life in someone else's hands with nothing to keep the power in check is wrong
@@kaylaisnothere4397 thats why you hire the right people, there will be bias still but less and we cant get rid if that realistically. At the end of the day nobody is owed entry into any country besides their own.
@@WillBilly.Jesus christ man
@@WillBilly....that's the thing though, you CAN get rid of bias. If a country (like America) has a problem with "immigration" or "terrorism" or whatever they're campaigning for at the time, then just make everyone go through this! Everyone now has to get a visa through the same processes and everyone now has to deal with insanely tight-security border patrol inspections!
Obviously no one would priviliged would like that, but that's the point. If the system is so fundamentally broken than an entire nation of people would find it inhumane and unjust if it were also applied to them, then that means it needs to be changed for everyone including the unpriviliged groups. And if it were somehow applied to everyone, even for just a few weeks, it definitely would change to be better. People vote for politicians who agree with their views (or are just really good at marketing but we won't get into that), and those politicians want to make sure they get elected again, so they'll actively be pushing for reforms in the system.
You mentioned "hiring the right people" would fix this problem, but the problem is that the system is made so that those doing the hiring are hiring the wrong people because they get paid to hire the wrong people. If you were not racist, classist, xenophobic, or otherwise against certain people groups, then you would not be hired since you would be empathizing with these people coming in and could not be "objective" about your rulings and do your job effectively.
No amount of bandaids will fix it, the problem is the system and our attitudes towards it.
Since this video is filled with comments about the same situations I don't expect anyone, especially eliquorice, to read my comment, but I was so touched by this video essay that I felt like I had to say something.
First of all, this video, even if it's not "complete", it's a masterpiece. Definitely, and I'm glad you posted it because it's important to talk about all the topics that you mention in it. So thank you for that.
And I'm glad to know that your family and friends are safe.
Now, I'm a Mexican young woman, whose skin is not quite brown and who has been privileged enough to learn English since I was in kindergarten. My parents both come from families who experienced some kind of poverty or who at least did not have a considerable amount of wealth, but both of them worked their asses off and thanks to that I know I will not experience what it's like to not have enough money for something, and I'm forever grateful. However, I know I'm an exception in the vast amount of statistics of people who are born poor and die poor. I'm extremely privileged about it.
A few years ago, my dad and I started traveling to other countries out of my curiosity to explore the world, and I began to see the exact same thing that you mentioned in the third section of the video. Now, like you, I can sometimes pass for white, but my dad is undeniably brown. He has quite dark skin, and he doesn't know a bit of English. So anytime we go through security in any airport I get so fucking scared to get away from him because I know I could maybe try to explain the situation if something were to happen to me, because at least I understand what they say, but he doesn't. He may be able to infer some things based on reactions and physical expressions, but that's a whole different story. So, not only do I have to be an interpreter for him, but I also fear for both of our lives whenever we cross a border. And we haven't ever been to the U.S. ever.
So, when I saw that clip of the Honduran woman I actually cried. I cried out of anger and frustration that this evidently innocent woman had to endure all of that due to the racism of some airport security people. And what is even more frustrating is that it was pure racism, because that was in Spain. She spoke their language! A language that their ancestors enforced on her ancestors! You could not even blame the situation on "oh, they couldn't understand her, so maybe that is why all of this happened" (which in itself would be bad, but arguably this is even worse). When watching that clip I could not stop thinking about my dad and how he (and me too, but especially him) could go through that same thing just because we are from the third world. And it's truly heartbreaking and infuriating. So, yeah, I never fully thought about the implications of what _Coco_ meant when it comes to radically changing the system, but thankfully I know now.
Yuri dang that was thoughtful
Chanelle Lee It's something I always think about.
Yeah girl I was so mad, you know my mom works a lot and she likes to travel. Imagine working your butt of to go to Spain and this shit happens to you I would have cried in her place because it's a dream for so many to know the world and that is just vanished because you don't look white and you are considered a criminal all the time.
Your comment resonated too much with me. Both my sister and I are brown Peruvians. I've been living for some time in Europe and I sure as hell remember my first entry into the continent via Madrid. 3 hours in total so that they could go through my entire documentation (which I carried because I knew what to expect) and to get in touch with my university so that they could clarify that I was indeed entering the continent to study. Not so long ago my sister came all the way from Peru just to see me and to live her dream of visiting the Gaudi buildings in Barcelona, and it crushed my heart when she told me about the way she was treated by the immigration police when entering. I can only imagine her scared, anxious and on the verge of tears wondering which document did she miss so that these people chose her out of hundreds of tourists entering the city on that particular day. It saddens me that her experience was tainted by an encounter with authorities that act based on their own prejudices and on top of that are extremely rude and condescending to anyone that doesn't look white. It's hard not to turn this sadness into anger. I've lived outside my country for almost 10 years, and every developed country I've stepped into has always reminded that I'll never be an expat, only an immigrant.
@@kefkiroth42 Wow, I'm so sorry that your sister and you have been through that. Te mando un enorme abrazo.
The part where he started talking about immigration hit way too close to home.
My mom has tried several times to get her citizenship by herself, and failed each time no matter how squeaky clean her record was or how good her application looked.
For most people, they’re excited to turn 21 because they can legally drink, smoke, etc. And that’s fine, good for them.
For me, I’m excited to turn 21 so we can finally have a good chance at getting her application accepted and getting her citizenship.
Idk why, but I absolutely started bawling when the lady from tegucigalpa showed up, because that's where I'm from and I just know that that she went through so much to be able to go in the first place, probably just wanted to visit a relative she hadn't seen in a long time and she's judged and treated like a criminal just from being where she's from. I really, really despise the system
I'm not even from Honduras, but yeah, that clip was disheartening.
as a mexican, i had a certain apprehension to the movie when it came out. I didn't want to go see it, and when people told me how they felt when they watched it, i would sort of stop listening. It felt wrong that there was a movie by disney about this tradition, for some reason.
i am from the city (Mexico City) and doing the altar and getting the food and all that is something that we do almost every year, but i learned very young that it was not my tradition, that it was from another state in mexico, and we didn't really know how it was originally celebrated by them. I guess i felt like, if i, a Mexican, didn't exactly know how to celebrate this tradition, a movie from another country wouldn't either. When i watched it, it felt like it had been painted mexican in the surface, but it just didn't feel like it was made for me. It feels like it's made for them, the usa. I don't know if this makes any sense, but after your video i think i was not entirely wrong.
Yes it makes sense as I’m Mexican and I feel the same
*If feel like it wasn't made for the mexicans* and yet it was the highest grossing film in Mexico in that year and was beloved by most mexicans that watched it so what are you saying?
This was a _perfect_ analysis of this film. I especially like the fact that this WASN'T just another mindlessly positive review gushing about how Pixar can apparently do NO EVIL in the eyes of it's audiences. And to an extent I agree that it was a beautiful film, both narratively, cinematically, as well as graphically. _Coco_ was actually one of the very few Pixar films I enjoyed, but even while watching it, it's hard to ignore how much the company shamelessly ripped off of Studio Gibli's _Spirited Away_ . (Seriously... some scenes are a FRAME BY FRAME exact copy!)
I really like that you've made your focus on things that most people willfully choose to ignore. I also could relate to your experiences on being discriminated against. I'm American, but I'm a Black, dark skinned female with kinky hair. My husband is a blond haired, blue eyed White male. We get treated _very_ differently from each other and it is hurtful to me. Especially when those guilty try to deny their obvious prejudices. (Just to give a quick example: YEARS ago, pre-COVID, I bugged my hubby about us getting new furniture, since most of our things were 2nd hand from yard sales, consignment shops, hand-me-downs, etc, which we got back when we were broke college students. By then my tastes had changed, and I wanted a specific style. I was planning to refurnish our living room, master bedroom, and our baby's room. We went to a family-owned furniture store about 2 hours away from us that everyone swore had the most _GORGEOUS_ furniture. (It really did) At the time, we had our (then 2 year old) with us, which we had just picked up from daycare. On the way inside, we realized our child was still holding one of her toys. Since we didn't want her to lose it, my husband ran back to the car with her to drop the toy in the backseat. Meanwhile, I continued inside. When I opened the door, there were 3 workers in the immediate vicinity: a man who looked to be in his 70's, a woman in her 50's(ish) and a young girl who looked about my age at the time, which was mid to late 20's. All 3 looked up at me, looked me over, and went back to reading (the older woman was doing a crossword puzzle, the man reading a newspaper, and the 20-something girl was playing on her phone). This might seem like arbitrary details, but I remember it vividly as I watched them ignore me. Literally. They ignored me. What hurt the most is not simply that they ignored me. It's that they looked at me, SIZED ME UP, and decided I was not worth wasting time on, as they clearly - based on their reactions to me- did not expect that I would spend any money. They considered even speaking to me to be pointless and a waste of oxygen. I felt myself _wilt_ .
Then my husband comes in with our child. It might be important to note that although our child is biracial, when she was young, she looked more White than anything else. She had pale skin and curly blonde hair, which has since darkened to a cinnamon brown. I say this to acknowledge that to these 3 workers (who were actually the OWNERS and their daughter, btw) my husband and child did NOT look like they were with me. They assumed my husband was there alone with his little 2 year old. When he entered the store, it's as though a light were switched; ALL 3 workers rose from their seats, smiling and greeting my husband warmly, asking if they could help him with anything. My husband, who is _completely_ uninterested in ANY sort of shopping outside of computer related equipment, nodded towards me and said, "ask my wife. She had a whole list of things she wanted to look at". Well let me tell you...by then my enthusiasm was dead. I no longer wanted to buy furniture, and CERTAINLY not from _this_ place..not from _these_ people. So I definitely feel your pain when it comes to discrimination. Sorry to post such a long rant. I guess it still bothers me.
I look forward to your next great masterpiece video analysis! ❤️
I bet they regretted that ¬¬
Damn I would have probably felt petty and went "nah let's not buy from here let's go somewhere else" ... Did you buy anything there tho?
Damn I can’t believe they treated you like that, so disrespectful.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that. I relate. Honestly, their loss. They don't deserve your business, anyway. Hugs.
The worst part about micro-aggressions like that is how constantly they happen, how they wear a person down over time. I'm sorry these things happened to you. :(
Since you mentioned the scene-for-scene similarities to Spirited Away, I also wanted to add that the entire premise of a CG animated Day of the Dead movie from an American studio where the protagonist crosses to the land of the dead and returns was already done beautifully in The Book of Life by director Jorge Gutierrez. Not that two films about Dia de los Muertos can't exist, but I was annoyed that the smaller film, which was already excellent and only from a few years beforehand, was overshadowed by Coco.
When i saw the
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Message i actually teared up
Thank you so much, it really means a lot
What does it mean?
@@mollysandera991 it means "we love you Palestine"
Palestine and Cuba are prime examples of US imperialism at work and how the rest of the world refuses to take action because of money
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@@ericktellez7632 ignorance is bliss, keep telling yourself Cuba isn’t rotting because of socialism
So I thought you should know as a Mexican quite a few of us hated the movie so much, it portrays our holidays like a class struggle, it shouldn’t, el día del los muertos is actually supposed to be seen as a day where no matter what class your in everyone is remember, he’ll we even have a second celebration for kids then adults also for those that are “forgottten” not letting them become forgotten
Ugh, this is such an important point! As a fellow Mexican, the struggles of the lower classes and poverty represent a hugh part of our population and showing that class differences and privilege existed beyond death was truly disheartening. The belief that we are equals to death is, I believe, a central part of Dia de Muertos and that aspect is completely ignored in the movie.
I agree with you on that, but then they wouldn’t have had such a moving plot. It still made a pretty good point through a story that parallels our living world which is an important thing to see, even in what is represented as a child’s film. But yes, the actual dia de los muertos is a way for you and I to celebrate our lost loved ones and I don’t think it took away from that at all ❤️
Why isn't this the most liked comment?
Knowing what you said now, the way pixar depicted dia del Los muertos feels shallow and lazy
As a Mexican artist i can see the separation of details added for plot and actual cultural representation and i appreciate the story elements as much as the Mexican culture its mixed with. Its not that deep its a fictional world, when you look at the alive humans celebrating the holiday its a celebration of life with no class struggle just people remembering their loved ones, then the FICTIONAL world has this struggle for plot and character development. I appreciate both sides and thought it was executed quite well and respectfully
I feel like Pixar leaned too hard on the idea that every person who watched the movie would be crying so hard at Miguel singing Remember Me that viewers wouldn't even notice the implications of Hector being the only confirmed once-forgotten character cleared to cross over the border. Unfortunately, I was one of those people who cried my eyes out at that scene, and I totally could imagine someone on the film's story team arguing to keep the ending limited in scope so that people would leave the theatre thinking of Remember Me, Coco's death, and Hector being brought into the family again instead of anything else. Disney movies, Pixar included, love treating main characters' personal victories as wins for everyone else except individual clear-cut villains