I could have listened to a 3 hour version of this. I would love for Chris to do a series discussing a writer each episode; Orwell, Twain ,Conrad, Kipling etc PLEASE DO THIS CHRIS!
3 Hour format sounds good. half hour feels like a delicious appetizer. An hour- or two Hours good too.. a half hour just feels too brief for such interesting content.
On DEC 2, 2021 ... The FDA was compelled by a court ruling to release Phizer's vax trial data that revealed 1,223 U.S. deaths by February 28, 2021 and 34,762 adverse events ... The FDA attempted to delay the full release of this data for 55 years! On JAN 1, 2022 ... Chris Hedges made this comment on the Krystal, Kyle & Friends Podcast: "I don't think we're going to stop the pandemic and mutations until everybody gets vaccinated" ... Chris Hedges had to know about the release of this data but was still willing to give big-pharma's jab his endorsement ... He has also refused to comment or stand with the working class against the illegal and unconstitutional vax mandates and passports ... Krystal and Kyle also had to know, but chose not to challenge him with a single follow-up question ...
I have been following Mr. Hedges for years and enjoy the informative interviews on issues and, as an artist, on the arts. Personally, I have always found his writing rather lean with a short, simple, and continuous staccato rhythm, but constantly surrounded by popular enthusiasm, I avoided criticism. Thank you for confirming that I am not alone. Your insight into Hemingway's personality explained much for me. Thank you again. Rodney Robert Brown, Author, "Powerless to be Born"
There was a great deal of correspondence between Hemingway & George Orwell in the latter's "Collected Essays, Letters & Journalism" published by Penguin in three parts 1970-1980. They might still be around. 🤔 (Green Fire, UK)
Thank you Chris for this topic about Hemmingway. The other gentleman is wise also. Hemingway was a great writer, with his own jealousies, demons drinking tortured his soul. He was also ego driven, fame he grasped for, walked over his friends, women he tried to control. His early like work you where saying was his best. Although my love for him is still unlimited. Tragedy that he took his own life in the end. Again, thank you both that I got to hear this. Sometimes I do write listening to music. I listen to whatever art form of music, turn it off, or turn it down quietly. Either way I write what I experienced , imagination is another experience. I learned something knew by listening to both of you, that one does not have to college to write. Also, may I add again, thank you for helping men in prisons with education. Chis you always give back. A beautiful soul you are. PLEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT. Chuckles I send you, we all can only ask. Chris your are the man with a moral compass. ❤️❤️
I learned a lot about Hemingway I didn't know, but also about Hedges and Kurlansky. A series on the back stories of writers, especially those about whom we have serious misconceptions, would certainly be welcome. Writing comes from somewhere, the forces that shaped the writer.
Robert Persig also believed that a person should not listen to music while doing anything else that one feels is important because both activities will suffer. If you care about what you are doing then you *WONT* try to multitask it with something else.
A Moveable Feast is my favorite Hemingway. The Sun Also Rises was also an excellent read. His conversations with Fitzgerald were hilarious. His portrayal of the bullfight was a visceral experience. If I’m not mistaken Proust was an art critic for a Parisian cultural magazine something like Seattle’s The Stranger.
When I was a kid my friend and I decided we were going to write a song. I remember he said turn on some music while we were brainstorming. I said wait you can't listen to music while trying to write music!
Hemmingway had a habit of re writing material many times till it pleased him it was terse enough. He is famous for that. With that kind of perfectionist mind it is easy to see how he got into lots of trouble over it. It also was a road sign on his path toward suicide. As a young writer, I almost worshiped this style of wring till I learned more about the man Ernest Hemingway. At some point however I came to a less flattering opinion of his writing. He was constantly replaying the most negative events in his life and fine tuning the expressions of painful nostalgia in his work. I eventuall discounted much of his work on a personal basis.
Hemmingway is a writer I've heard more about, than read. But from you and Mark were saying about him, I couldn't help but think of another quondam journalist, now the Dear Leader of a Western Nation, whose relationship with the truth, and his own self-constructed myth, is startlingly similar. This person, if indeed he exists outside his own imagination, lied even to his own dear Queen. And did not fool, I'm quite sure. But that's a nice definition of chutzpah. Thanks for a lively and informative discussion!
Kerouac was terrible in interviews as well. I think writers hear what they are about to write, not so much speak what they write. They are channeling something. Although Chris seems gifted at both.
William Burroughs said that a writer shouldn't have too clearcut a self image. He used Hemingway as an example of someone whose ultimately caricatured image devoured it's creator. Burroughs would also say "a writer writes always." A commandment that, again, becomes stymied if one is sequestered by self-love. Zelda Fitzgerald famously described Hemingway as "bogus."
The main problem was that Kurlansky often speaks sotto voce, and almost as frequently talks with his head down as if searching for something that's just dropped into his lap.
Hemingway was a master of the early to middle 20th century sparse, American "realistic" style of writing, but his personal character was so atrocious that whilst his writing should be studied, he shouldn't be celebrated as an icon.
Reporters do important work but the job is for tough souls. Matt Taibbi talked about how after hearing Trump's speeches over and over, he would just write numbers in his notes which represented different parts of the speech. That while they were being heckled and sometimes physically attacked by the crowd when Trump would express hostility towards the press.
MR HEDGES IS RIGHT to write this book,because you may cause or begin a war when you need it,but must know that you can't STOP that when you like to stop it,even if you're dollar curence printer.
Metaphor and simile to reflect upon the process of writing is a way of unpacking a process for oneself that one already swims around in. It’s not clear at all that others will find anything useful in comparing it to Bach - beyond being intrigued by the comparison. It’s an odd way to start this discussion. Writing as fiction is driven by a personal muse that provides motivation and passion. Without that, ones writing is a pointless journey signifying nothing of value. Great writing in journalism could be driven by something similar but can only be made manifest by practicing the profession inside a very independent framework. That excludes most of the media we consume. They lack all the preconditions needed to be passionate about their content. It’s primarily about ego and self interest, and the product is merely a means to an end.
Hemingway was a creative man in full celebration of freeborn manhood in its cultist apex. There is no negative criticism of him, if you hail from the same cult. Socialists, communists, social misfits and punks have no right to criticism. Who are they to do so, while enveloped inside the dimming, if not amoralistic light they stand in? I don't see the logic, personally.
6:56 I attended a writing class at The Loft, a well-respected writing school in Minneapolis MN. They had us write a piece and read it out loud, and then get criticisms from the other students. Their criticism was that I used "long sentences" and I didn't sound like Hemingway! (Later, when I read The Jewel in the Crown, I wondered what my fellow students would have said about that book!) I hated Hemingway. The only piece he wrote that I liked was A Clean Well-Lighted Place (speaking of stories that don't tell everything).
Hemingway was a small town news paper wrighter..if it wasn't for the help he got from Esra Pond.whom rewrote . Hemingways book Hemingway would have never been famous
I could have listened to a 3 hour version of this. I would love for Chris to do a series discussing a writer each episode; Orwell, Twain ,Conrad, Kipling etc PLEASE DO THIS CHRIS!
3 Hour format sounds good. half hour feels like a delicious appetizer. An hour- or two Hours good too.. a half hour just feels too brief for such interesting content.
On DEC 2, 2021 ...
The FDA was compelled by a court ruling to release Phizer's vax trial data that revealed 1,223 U.S. deaths by February 28, 2021 and 34,762 adverse events ...
The FDA attempted to delay the full release of this data for 55 years!
On JAN 1, 2022 ...
Chris Hedges made this comment on the Krystal, Kyle & Friends Podcast:
"I don't think we're going to stop the pandemic and mutations until everybody gets vaccinated" ...
Chris Hedges had to know about the release of this data but was still willing to give big-pharma's jab his endorsement ... He has also refused to comment or stand with the working class against the illegal and unconstitutional vax mandates and passports ... Krystal and Kyle also had to know, but chose not to challenge him with a single follow-up question ...
Couldn't agree more!!!
Thanks for letting me into that conversation.
Peace love and solidarity!
..."too good to be taught by someone else" I love that! When I write it should flow without stutter and with my own voice.
Haven't thought about the craft in a while. Great interview.
I have been following Mr. Hedges for years and enjoy the informative interviews on issues and, as an artist, on the arts. Personally, I have always found his writing rather lean with a short, simple, and continuous staccato rhythm, but constantly surrounded by popular enthusiasm, I avoided criticism. Thank you for confirming that I am not alone. Your insight into Hemingway's personality explained much for me. Thank you again.
Rodney Robert Brown, Author, "Powerless to be Born"
I missed the live stream, but I'm going to watch it now!
What? My favorite journalist together talking with my favorite NF author? What a treat today!!
There was a great deal of correspondence between Hemingway & George Orwell in the latter's "Collected Essays, Letters & Journalism" published by Penguin in three parts 1970-1980. They might still be around. 🤔 (Green Fire, UK)
Thank you Chris for this topic about Hemmingway. The other gentleman is wise also. Hemingway was a great writer, with his own jealousies, demons drinking tortured his soul. He was also ego driven, fame he grasped for, walked over his friends, women he tried to control. His early like work you where saying was his best. Although my love for him is still unlimited. Tragedy that he took his own life in the end. Again, thank you both that I got to hear this. Sometimes I do write listening to music. I listen to whatever art form of music, turn it off, or turn it down quietly. Either way I write what I experienced , imagination is another experience. I learned something knew by listening to both of you, that one does not have to college to write. Also, may I add again, thank you for helping men in prisons with education. Chis you always give back. A beautiful soul you are. PLEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT. Chuckles I send you, we all can only ask. Chris your are the man with a moral compass. ❤️❤️
Thoughtfully and beautifully said.
Absolutely amazing, Chris! Thank you so much from Argentina!
A very informative conversation.
I learned a lot about Hemingway I didn't know, but also about Hedges and Kurlansky. A series on the back stories of writers, especially those about whom we have serious misconceptions, would certainly be welcome. Writing comes from somewhere, the forces that shaped the writer.
Kurlansky is a great writer! One of my favorites!!
Robert Persig also believed that a person should not listen to music while doing anything else that one feels is important because both activities will suffer. If you care about what you are doing then you *WONT* try to multitask it with something else.
A Moveable Feast is my favorite Hemingway. The Sun Also Rises was also an excellent read. His conversations with Fitzgerald were hilarious. His portrayal of the bullfight was a visceral experience.
If I’m not mistaken Proust was an art critic for a Parisian cultural magazine something like Seattle’s The Stranger.
That's my favorite too
I just bought a moveable feast in a bookstore in Cody, Wyoming! Reading it now on my week vacation
This is such a great series!
When I was a kid my friend and I decided we were going to write a song. I remember he said turn on some music while we were brainstorming. I said wait you can't listen to music while trying to write music!
Hello again from Ireland... excellence again except for sound ... thanks for the compliment!😀
oof, fix that audio please
Henry Miller said that the task of intellectuals should be to make other people around intellectuals, to feel depressed
Hemmingway had a habit of re writing material many times till it pleased him it was terse enough. He is famous for that. With that kind of perfectionist mind it is easy to see how he got into lots of trouble over it. It also was a road sign on his path toward suicide. As a young writer, I almost worshiped this style of wring till I learned more about the man Ernest Hemingway. At some point however I came to a less flattering opinion of his writing. He was constantly replaying the most negative events in his life and fine tuning the expressions of painful nostalgia in his work. I eventuall discounted much of his work on a personal basis.
Great talk ☺️
Hemmingway is a writer I've heard more about, than read. But from you and Mark were saying about him, I couldn't help but think of another quondam journalist, now the Dear Leader of a Western Nation, whose relationship with the truth, and his own self-constructed myth, is startlingly similar. This person, if indeed he exists outside his own imagination, lied even to his own dear Queen. And did not fool, I'm quite sure. But that's a nice definition of chutzpah. Thanks for a lively and informative discussion!
Kerouac was terrible in interviews as well. I think writers hear what they are about to write, not so much speak what they write. They are channeling something. Although Chris seems gifted at both.
William Burroughs said that a writer shouldn't have too clearcut a self image. He used Hemingway as an example of someone whose ultimately caricatured image devoured it's creator. Burroughs would also say "a writer writes always." A commandment that, again, becomes stymied if one is sequestered by self-love. Zelda Fitzgerald famously described Hemingway as "bogus."
I've written 2 short stories, 1 novella and 1 novel.
Trying to get them published.
Wishing you the best of luck 👍🏻
@@mE-zx7pt Thank you. (And your screen name is mE2 as in #MeToo if you don't mind me asking?)
@@andreschang8526 You're welcome. Actually, no, I just picked my screen name from looking at a random word and number on a page. Very lazy. 😀
"Every human being that loves freedom owes to the Red Army more than he will be able to repay in a life time", Ernest Hemingway.
Free Julian Assange, free Palestine and end all sanctions! Hedges Forever
the audio levels seem off on this video, it's extra loud at times for certain words. Was it not normalized?
Agree. Very hard to listen to! Maybe a microphone issue ,but frustrating.
The main problem was that Kurlansky often speaks sotto voce, and almost as frequently talks with his head down as if searching for something that's just dropped into his lap.
What is the name of the song?
Chris, please don’t let them scare you aware from your political analysis, we need yiu vision and voice
Hemingway was a master of the early to middle 20th century sparse, American "realistic" style of writing, but his personal character was so atrocious that whilst his writing should be studied, he shouldn't be celebrated as an icon.
What happened with ‘ hyperbole’
Please come due an episode on Revolutionary Blackout Network!
Reporters do important work but the job is for tough souls. Matt Taibbi talked about how after hearing Trump's speeches over and over, he would just write numbers in his notes which represented different parts of the speech. That while they were being heckled and sometimes physically attacked by the crowd when Trump would express hostility towards the press.
I'm basque and we definitely drink from wine flasks!
So I am to assume that rappers that never heard of Bauch are not to Hemingway's standards, when really rappers talk to the beat & write in beat***
MR HEDGES IS RIGHT to write this book,because you may cause or begin a war when you need it,but must know that you can't STOP that when you like to stop it,even if you're dollar curence printer.
I feel like Frank Herbert was more like what Hemmingway was trying to be on some level?
Metaphor and simile to reflect upon the process of writing is a way of unpacking a process for oneself that one already swims around in. It’s not clear at all that others will find anything useful in comparing it to Bach - beyond being intrigued by the comparison. It’s an odd way to start this discussion.
Writing as fiction is driven by a personal muse that provides motivation and passion. Without that, ones writing is a pointless journey signifying nothing of value.
Great writing in journalism could be driven by something similar but can only be made manifest by practicing the profession inside a very independent framework. That excludes most of the media we consume. They lack all the preconditions needed to be passionate about their content. It’s primarily about ego and self interest, and the product is merely a means to an end.
Only America could have produced Hemingway and not got the joke.
This is why I love youtube warts and all
We live in the presence of the ghost of Tom Joad!
Hemingway was a creative man in full celebration of freeborn manhood in its cultist apex. There is no negative criticism of him, if you hail from the same cult. Socialists, communists, social misfits and punks have no right to criticism. Who are they to do so, while enveloped inside the dimming, if not amoralistic light they stand in? I don't see the logic, personally.
6:56 I attended a writing class at The Loft, a well-respected writing school in Minneapolis MN.
They had us write a piece and read it out loud, and then get criticisms from the other students. Their criticism was that I used "long sentences" and I didn't sound like Hemingway! (Later, when I read The Jewel in the Crown, I wondered what my fellow students would have said about that book!)
I hated Hemingway. The only piece he wrote that I liked was A Clean Well-Lighted Place (speaking of stories that don't tell everything).
Lesser writers denigrating a great writer. Read a Hemingway short story.
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Hemingway was supportive of communism. Hemingway hated fascists
Yeah it was a miserable stringofevents
Hey, the grandpa is even more boring than Hedges. That is unusual. Where did you find him?
Thank you. I can't stand hemingway
Hemingway was a small town news paper wrighter..if it wasn't for the help he got from Esra Pond.whom rewrote . Hemingways book Hemingway would have never been famous
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