Why didn't they simply adopt and transform NHIF? This creation of an entirely new outfit makes no sense, and complicates staff transition. Regarding monthly contribution, govn't must not coerce Kenyans to hop on board by force by blackmailing them with denial of other govn't services. Healthcare services is a right of every Kenyan citizen.
Healthcare services is a right to every Kenyan citizen. Well said. And that's the end of it. Unless you can pay for it, you're done. Government provides 'many things' in written documents. Let a different approach be tried out tuone kama it could bring about some difference.
Health and Healthcare in general should never be about profit and or measured in term of a balance sheet. Your guest an entrepreneur, operating a private hospital and on the same breadth having been appointed as the chairman of the newly established board of the social health authority is just a symptom of what ails Kenya's healthcare system...his solution will be set from the prism and lens of a quasi private enterprise... So long as the health system requires patients to cater for the cost care at the point of delivery, Kenyans will be limited to the extent of what they have in their pockets! It pains when one visits hospitals for attention but the first thing that is demanded by providers is a deposit!!! before they can be attended to.....sic!! It should read universal health care NOT universal health coverage!!! Healthcare should be available to all regardless of wealth! Our health system should be based on three core principals: 1) That it meets the needs of everyone; 2) That it be free at the point of delivery; 3) That it be based on clinical need NOT ability to pay..
In a few years time it will clearly don on Kenyans that this lot did not exactly know what it was that they were doing and or hearding the Nation into!!!
Govt should just work to fix hospitals and make sure that they are all in good working order. What is doing is just overtaxing already overtaxed employees to feed private hospitals. But we also know who own the private hospitals, so there is little hope of private hospitals getting fixed.
He's able to explain well because he's a medical doctor, runs a private hospital and has for a long time lobbied for the enhancement of health services. Giving such a person the housing docket is like expecting a fish to win a tree climbing competition.
He has been talking alot til he is excited 😊😊 😊 now he is the one hosting akina latiff,he has literally taken over his new office and spice fm show too at once.
@38:27 National Government and County Governments are known not to remit taxes, coop, NSSF deductions for long. This is in spite of all the laws in place. Social Health Authority Chair seems to think this doesn't happen.
Too many "i think" "that was the plan" "i'm not sure", is it too early for the interview? The benefits package is discriminatory as he explains 26:00 to 27:30. What happens to the liabilities of the current NHIF? He has not mentioned that. As the transition happens, and knowing pending bills might arise, how are they going to handle the claims?
First kudos to the government for tgis appointment. Dr Olweny is a brilliant guy. We can only hope the president and CS health will give him freedom and independence to run SHA.
Digitalization doesnt fix the problem....kenyan election is a great pointing case. Its who is administering it that has been the problem and so far this government doesn't mean well
I admire spice team for the wonderful conversation ,kindly bring TSC chairperson and head of police to explain to Kenyan why they allowed us to be under Indian colony.Minnet subcontracted Medical Administrator Kenya Limited ( MAKL) managed by Indians who are harassing service providers, beneficiaries and anyone involved!!teachers and police officers aren't in safe hands as far as healthcare coverage is concerned.They have been sold out by their bosses and they will keep on suffering for the next 3 years.NHIF was the best bet for police officers but the government was bought at a cost
I was admitted to Nairobi Women's and they refused to take the NHIF amount out and told me NHIF would refund me! To date I have never seen that refund?
If this was to be an interview,he would have passed instantly just because of his sense of humor.May that is what made him get appointed to this authority.😂
Some of us need to update our list of beneficiaries. Is it also going to carter for diarrhea and vomiting as the current one? Isn't it also going to carter for the welfare of civil servants only?
Complete waste of time in the name of reforms. All they needed to do is increase govt subsidy of the NHIF program to accommodate more covers to widen the base. Simple
Those who are self employed pay 2.75% of household income which means of the money that has reached home. But salaried guys pay as per gross which will have PAYE and housing fund deducted. So its comes to about 4% of take home pay of salary. Its unfair
All i wanna know is how corrupt is Olweny? If he is not, pray to God , and a committed Kenyan and a good manager.. thank you Lord God. Only govt worker that seems impressive
2.75% of gross pay is just too high. Very punitive to employed citizens with all the imposed taxes. We hope for capitations since it is already way too much taxes and levies on payslips
@georgeooko3716 not really. Those who are self employed pay 2.75 of household income which mean the money that has reached home. But salaried guys pay as per gross which has paye and housing fund deducted. So its comes to about 4% of take home pay. Its unfair
@@osaedu The bigger problem is that the self employed's income is never known. And the self employed are the majority in this country. Yes KRA has never bothered to have a mechanism of capturing their real income. KRA has only concentrated on VATable businesses. While KRA has now given notice that any business done with one who is not on eTIMs will not be considered to be an expense, they have not provided a mechanism through which a grass cutter who comes to my compound, say, twice a month could easily get into eTIMs. The current weakness of KRA should not be the reason not to do what could help fund SHA properly. Hope this will be one thing to wake up the employed to participate in decision making. When the hitherto very comfortable start feeling the bite they will be forced to stand up and it may just be the beginning of Kenya to turn around.
That cs need to go back to school,health care should be optional like other countries,primary care should be for those not able to keep up monthly payments.threatening for mandatory health care to access gov. services thats total stupidity!!!
Reminds me of KFA collapse due to corruption and later babtism of KGGCU....all these is non sense . Am only glad that these people will not go very far. Njia ya muongo ní fupi
Why didn't they simply adopt and transform NHIF? This creation of an entirely new outfit makes no sense, and complicates staff transition. Regarding monthly contribution, govn't must not coerce Kenyans to hop on board by force by blackmailing them with denial of other govn't services. Healthcare services is a right of every Kenyan citizen.
They don't know how to fix anything, only to create new mess.
Healthcare services is a right to every Kenyan citizen. Well said. And that's the end of it. Unless you can pay for it, you're done. Government provides 'many things' in written documents. Let a different approach be tried out tuone kama it could bring about some difference.
Exactly. It had it's only flaws but it was doing good if not excellent, I believe.
@@yvekay5139 Precisely!
@@babufits1584 They're messy at everything they touch.
Health and Healthcare in general should never be about profit and or measured in term of a balance sheet. Your guest an entrepreneur, operating a private hospital and on the same breadth having been appointed as the chairman of the newly established board of the social health authority is just a symptom of what ails Kenya's healthcare system...his solution will be set from the prism and lens of a quasi private enterprise...
So long as the health system requires patients to cater for the cost care at the point of delivery, Kenyans will be limited to the extent of what they have in their pockets!
It pains when one visits hospitals for attention but the first thing that is demanded by providers is a deposit!!! before they can be attended to.....sic!!
It should read universal health care NOT universal health coverage!!!
Healthcare should be available to all regardless of wealth!
Our health system should be based on three core principals:
1) That it meets the needs of everyone;
2) That it be free at the point of delivery;
3) That it be based on clinical need NOT ability to pay..
His is a text from a Healthcare expert,
Spot on! 💯💯💯
When you say it is the Kenya Kwanza that were working on this I shudder because of of how the programs they have started have mismanaged so far?
In a few years time it will clearly don on Kenyans that this lot did not exactly know what it was that they were doing and or hearding the Nation into!!!
By what time will the liabilities of NHIF be settled.
Govt should just work to fix hospitals and make sure that they are all in good working order. What is doing is just overtaxing already overtaxed employees to feed private hospitals. But we also know who own the private hospitals, so there is little hope of private hospitals getting fixed.
This guy should have been the Housing PS his explanation is simple & clear
He's able to explain well because he's a medical doctor, runs a private hospital and has for a long time lobbied for the enhancement of health services.
Giving such a person the housing docket is like expecting a fish to win a tree climbing competition.
@@reine924 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Wueeh
So you mean Charles Hinga is very useless,hatumwelewi😂😂😂😂
So the mandatory amount being paid to NHIF will increase and be paid to SHIF. And we are supposed to be happy. My payslip😢😢
When it's on paper and on people's mouths it seems easy. I'm waiting to see it practically
Please Dr Olweny let the NHIF clear outstanding Bill's going to billions before Transition.
He has been talking alot til he is excited 😊😊 😊 now he is the one hosting akina latiff,he has literally taken over his new office and spice fm show too at once.
It’s OL-WE-NY; ‘NY’ as in NYanza NOT as in maNY.
If your guests could spice up your shows like that from the start then your show deserves that 'spice' name 💯percent guys🤣😂
It's bcoz the health care policy makes sense and housing is far fetched
@38:27 National Government and County Governments are known not to remit taxes, coop, NSSF deductions for long. This is in spite of all the laws in place. Social Health Authority Chair seems to think this doesn't happen.
He's deluded. Those delays are usually there to ensure cartels are paid before deserving entities.
These are hospital Bill's which are as we stand in billions.
Am paid up may 2024. What will happen with my Case?
So you mean you've been here all this while but never heard when he talked such cases?🙄🤔🤔🤤
OVER EXCITED OF THE NEW APPOINTMENT,LIKE SOMEONE FLYING OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
Too many "i think" "that was the plan" "i'm not sure", is it too early for the interview? The benefits package is discriminatory as he explains 26:00 to 27:30. What happens to the liabilities of the current NHIF? He has not mentioned that. As the transition happens, and knowing pending bills might arise, how are they going to handle the claims?
First kudos to the government for tgis appointment.
Dr Olweny is a brilliant guy. We can only hope the president and CS health will give him freedom and independence to run SHA.
Digitalization doesnt fix the problem....kenyan election is a great pointing case. Its who is administering it that has been the problem and so far this government doesn't mean well
I admire spice team for the wonderful conversation ,kindly bring TSC chairperson and head of police to explain to Kenyan why they allowed us to be under Indian colony.Minnet subcontracted Medical Administrator Kenya Limited ( MAKL) managed by Indians who are harassing service providers, beneficiaries and anyone involved!!teachers and police officers aren't in safe hands as far as healthcare coverage is concerned.They have been sold out by their bosses and they will keep on suffering for the next 3 years.NHIF was the best bet for police officers but the government was bought at a cost
Many ppl are not employed and nhif allowed them to fit in as per their pockets
I was admitted to Nairobi Women's and they refused to take the NHIF amount out and told me NHIF would refund me! To date I have never seen that refund?
If this was to be an interview,he would have passed instantly just because of his sense of humor.May that is what made him get appointed to this authority.😂
I don't want to contribute 2.5 percent of my salary. You are criminals this is a scandal loading.
I strongly second that…. Track record for nhif is NOT encouraging.
Some of us need to update our list of beneficiaries. Is it also going to carter for diarrhea and vomiting as the current one? Isn't it also going to carter for the welfare of civil servants only?
Complete waste of time in the name of reforms. All they needed to do is increase govt subsidy of the NHIF program to accommodate more covers to widen the base. Simple
Those who are self employed pay 2.75% of household income which means of the money that has reached home. But salaried guys pay as per gross which will have PAYE and housing fund deducted. So its comes to about 4% of take home pay of salary. Its unfair
All i wanna know is how corrupt is Olweny? If he is not, pray to God , and a committed Kenyan and a good manager.. thank you Lord God. Only govt worker that seems impressive
amazing
So who do we pay now?
2.75% of gross pay is just too high. Very punitive to employed citizens with all the imposed taxes.
We hope for capitations since it is already way too much taxes and levies on payslips
2.75% of one's salary has an equal effect to each one. That's called proportionate contribute. It's well.
@georgeooko3716 not really. Those who are self employed pay 2.75 of household income which mean the money that has reached home. But salaried guys pay as per gross which has paye and housing fund deducted. So its comes to about 4% of take home pay. Its unfair
@@osaedu The bigger problem is that the self employed's income is never known. And the self employed are the majority in this country. Yes KRA has never bothered to have a mechanism of capturing their real income. KRA has only concentrated on VATable businesses. While KRA has now given notice that any business done with one who is not on eTIMs will not be considered to be an expense, they have not provided a mechanism through which a grass cutter who comes to my compound, say, twice a month could easily get into eTIMs.
The current weakness of KRA should not be the reason not to do what could help fund SHA properly. Hope this will be one thing to wake up the employed to participate in decision making. When the hitherto very comfortable start feeling the bite they will be forced to stand up and it may just be the beginning of Kenya to turn around.
They are capping at 5000 to safeguard themselves.
That cs need to go back to school,health care should be optional like other countries,primary care should be for those not able to keep up monthly payments.threatening for mandatory health care to access gov. services thats total stupidity!!!
NHIF is currently not working
Just reform nhif.
@Dr Olweny, exchequer is taxpayers money, the same taxpayers that will be also contributors
Reminds me of KFA collapse due to corruption and later babtism of KGGCU....all these is non sense .
Am only glad that these people will not go very far.
Njia ya muongo ní fupi
Why is our leadership complicating issues for its citizens. Kuna Mungu mbinguni asikiae mambo yet. The whole nation we're confused.
next time you're sick, just pray Mungu binguni akuskie. Or, start by going to KNH and lets see if it works!
Talk about tone deaf! Seriously even if its a good idea, do you know whats happening on the ground? People are being blown around in every direction!
Pay hospital bills before transitioning
I PITTY MY PEOPLE IN OUR MOTHERLAND THAT THEY CONTINUE TO CALL EACH OTHER FOREIGNERS...ITS NEOCOLONIALISM 101
They don't see it