The secret to the softest sourdough dinner rolls

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  • These are my favorite soft sourdough dinner rolls for any holiday meal, especially Thanksgiving and Christmas. They're mildly sour, deeply flavorful, and incredibly light and airy.
    FULL RECIPE:
    www.theperfectloaf.com/super-...
    ➡ LEVAIN INGREDIENTS:
    ● 74g white flour (all-purpose
    ● 15g superfine sugar
    ● 74g water
    ● 30g ripe sourdough starter (100% hydration)
    ➡ TANGZHONG INGREDIENTS:
    ● 41g white flour (all-purpose)
    ● 166g whole milk
    ➡ DOUGH MIX INGREDIENTS:
    ● 328g white flour (all-purpose)
    ● 148g high-protein white flour
    ● 95g unsalted butter
    ● 38g superfine white sugar
    ● 180g water
    ● 11g fine sea salt
    ● 193g ripe levain
    ➡ TOPPING:
    One egg and splash of milk for egg wash.
    Coarse sea salt for topping (optional).
    🫙 EQUIPMENT
    9-inch square baking pan (affiliate):
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    10-inch round pan (affiliate):
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    All my favorite baking tools for this bread:
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    🎥 CHAPTERS
    00:00 Intro
    00:49 What's so great about these rolls?
    01:46 What is tangzhong?
    02:12 What is a sweet levain?
    03:13 Baking timeline and holidays
    03:44 Can I proof these in the fridge?
    04:04 Ingredients
    05:34 Equipment
    06:22 What pans can I use?
    06:45 Step 1: Sweet levain
    07:31 Step 2: Tangzhong
    08:25 Step 3: Mixing
    10:28 Step 4: Bulk fermentation
    13:07 Step 5: Divide and shape
    15:20 Step 6: Proof
    15:33 Step 7: Bake
    16:35 Outro
    #baking #sourdough #thanksgiving
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  • @tvettabt
    @tvettabt ปีที่แล้ว

    These look amazing! I have your book and love it. You put so much work into this book. It's a work of art and very much appreciated!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! So glad to hear you're enjoying it. A lot of work indeed, but gosh did I love writing it 🙂

  • @onyxmadeababylp1192
    @onyxmadeababylp1192 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I stumbled across this video, and immediately subbed after. Perfect explanations and examples. We’ll be having these Sunday.

  • @sherridavis6651
    @sherridavis6651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made these today!! Already starting another batch. These are wonderful.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you like them, Sherri! I just made a double batch myself yesterday. Too good. Enjoy!

  • @rosemarmol5712
    @rosemarmol5712 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you they look delicious! I have to try them for Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving!!!!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'll love em 🙂 Let me know after you try! Happy Thanksgiving 🙂

  • @vantinamanley4709
    @vantinamanley4709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will be making these for Thanksgiving! Thank you so much for the recipe

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're going to love these for Thanksgiving! You're welcome and enjoy 🙂

  • @TheStallion234
    @TheStallion234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I just made these yesterday as a test run for Thanksgiving and they came out incredible!

  • @carolinewalls4297
    @carolinewalls4297 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is exactly the sourdough roll recipe I have been waiting for :-) Really looking forward to receiving your book soon

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome, Caroline! This recipe is in there, but why not start early? 🙂 Have fun and enjoy!

  • @viktoriapeterson489
    @viktoriapeterson489 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These are the best! Tanzhong is a real secret to the tenderness. Since the family had these, I am now the official roll baker. I divide them into 60 gram balls as we felt they were a bit large, but I think I will roll a half dozen larger ones for those French toast slices! Your recipes rock!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's perfect, Viktoria! I've played with larger and smaller rolls-each has their benefits! These are just so, so good as French toast... Can't wait to hear what you think 🙂

  • @MsCalliopeK
    @MsCalliopeK ปีที่แล้ว

    These look wonderful! I'll be making these today and bake tomorrow. I made your cardamom rolls last week and they disappeared in a jiffy - as they always do :) I finally ordered your cookbook. Can't wait to get it and try out new recipes!! Thanks so much for sharing all your wonderful sourdough and baking wisdom!
    p.s.: I baked these this morning and they might possibly be the best thing I've ever baked. Amazing

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my, so glad these turned out so well for you!! Thank you so much for the kind words. Enjoy!

  • @Mrs.Vodkaa
    @Mrs.Vodkaa ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant. Wait to try this out. ❤❤❤

  • @evanwolf1
    @evanwolf1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Maurizio. Made these for my two nieces and nephew who came to Thanksgiving Dinner - they like eating almost nothing! But they gobbled, pun intended :), these down with butter and the entire family thought they were fabulous. The best part was that I was able to make the levain Tuesday night, proof and build out the pan of rolls on Wednesday and plop into the fridge overnight. I took them out at 1:30 on Thanksgiving, proofed for about 2 1/2 hrs. and then into the oven. They are delicious. I've been a follower for a long time, so I'm not surprised that these came out great too. The family knows what cookbook to put into my stocking this year! Thanks so much, Maurizio, and have a Happy Holiday season.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah that's just so, so wonderful to hear, Evan! Thanks for the comments. Really great work modifying the timeline to suit your cooking and baking schedule! I hope you love my cookbook, too, and of course, this recipe is in there 🙂 Have a wonderful rest of the week and enjoy! (Oh, and if by some chance some of these rolls went uneaten, French toast are calling!)

  • @laurablowers7759
    @laurablowers7759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m planning to make these for Easter!🙏🐣👍

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hope you made them and enjoyed, Laura!

  • @kristianakrista
    @kristianakrista 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made these for New Year's Eve, and oh my, oh my, so delicious! I appreciate the detail and the time you took to explain everything properly. It was a success!!!!!! Thanks again, and Happy 2024!🎉

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are so welcome! HNY 🙂

  • @grazynagracerennick3285
    @grazynagracerennick3285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW...these dinner rolls are to die for... soooo delicious 😋 in last 2 weeks, I baked them 3 times...

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Super happy you like em!

  • @Youreaveragegroundedplayer
    @Youreaveragegroundedplayer ปีที่แล้ว

    Made them Saturday and it my new favorite dinner roll will be making on Thanksgiving

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So happy you loved them! I'm just about to bake a pre-Thanksgiving batch here myself... Enjoy!

  • @laddcraner4170
    @laddcraner4170 ปีที่แล้ว

    tyvm!!

  • @bsseraphine
    @bsseraphine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made these and proofed in the fridge the day before thanksgiving. Today was thanksgiving and of all the dishes I prepared everyone loved these rolls and raved about them. This was one of the best sourdough bakes Ive made. Thank you for your recipe.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      So happy to hear that, Bonnie! Means a lot to hear my rolls were so well-received on your Thanksgiving table 🙂 Have a great rest of the week!

    • @bsseraphine
      @bsseraphine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theperfectloafthanks again for your YT tutorials.

  • @GBERTS
    @GBERTS ปีที่แล้ว

    nice!!!

  • @TheValleyofelk
    @TheValleyofelk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just made these rolls. Baked in a 10 inch springform pan
    Heavenly!
    Thank you!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds great! Enjoy and Happy Thanksgiving 🙂

    • @TheValleyofelk
      @TheValleyofelk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And to you!

  • @coreyholt8522
    @coreyholt8522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This recipe took me a few tries to get it right, but they are so delicious and worth the effort.

  • @sophiam6038
    @sophiam6038 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you! New subscriber.

  • @adrianaturlea6861
    @adrianaturlea6861 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi. I made the dinner rolls exactly as you did in your video over 2 days (I couldn’t leave them in the fridge over night). They are delicious. It’s hard not to eat them all at once. I drizzled some seeds over (everything bagel style), and fresh out of the oven I added a touch of butter (not necessary, but it’s so good). For next time, I will add less sugar (half of your recommendations), but keep the sugar in the levain. I didn’t find your method to take more time than the usual recipe. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh gosh I love the idea of adding everything bagel flavor to these! Thanks for the comments, happy to help 🙂

  • @mattymattffs
    @mattymattffs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have used my starter a few times for dinner rolls, but there was always something missing. I think it was the sugar in the levain. We'll see! I just really love Claire's chive rolls.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know how you like these! I haven't tried Claire's, but her recipes are so wonderful-will check those out!

  • @davidrl41
    @davidrl41 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Great video/recipe... Yup, going to make these : )
    Also - not a huge deal, but your affiliate link to the USA pan is for the 8in., not the 9in. I know you can select another size there, but I sometimes overlook that. I only mention it because I am in the market for the larger pan and almost bought another 8in. whew.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yikes, thank you will update that! Hope you love these rolls, they're just too good 🙂 Have fun and enjoy!

  • @chuckhenkle5169
    @chuckhenkle5169 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great lessons; learning much! Where did you purchase the ceramic (?) dough prepping mixing bowl? I believe you said it was non-stick. The size seems to be just what I’m looking for… appreciate you and your teaching style.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! It's from Heath Ceramics in San Francisco. Their large serving bowl.

  • @afroditemoser579
    @afroditemoser579 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi this is the best rolls I made. I make them. For every Holliday and between.your recipes are great and you are amazing baker.love your videos.and the way you explain everything. well I have a question do you subtract the flour and milk or water from the total Amount your recipe calls or is. Just extra ingredient . I am ordering your book from Amazon is that resipe in it.Thank you
    many blessings to you.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure 😊 So glad you like these and thanks for the kind words. Let me know how you like my book once you have a chance to read through!

  • @dadzukescraftbread2544
    @dadzukescraftbread2544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful recipe thanks for sharing! Do you think this would work with a small percentage of 100% whole wheat? If so would you agree it should be added to the roux to soften the bran?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      It certainly would, and yes, using it as the pre-cooked flour is a fantastic way to go about it. It may bring a bit more acidity/sourness to the final rolls, but nothing I would imagine would be overpowering!

  • @pamho5801
    @pamho5801 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank yoy

  • @zebitz
    @zebitz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    appreciate the recipe. Got your book as well - wonderful work! One question though. Recipes including this one don't specify if the oven is fan or top/bottom heat. Could you clarify that for me real quick?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So glad you like the book, Justin! All the recipes in the book are non-convection (no fan) unless otherwise specified. So with this recipe, no fan! Hope you like these rolls, they're too good.

  • @suebattersby5452
    @suebattersby5452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you freeze these rolls? At what stage would you recommend freezing them? I have your book and I think its great too!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad you're enjoying the book, Sue! I've heard from bakers who have parbaked them about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way, frozen them once fully cooled, then thawed overnight in the fridge, finished baking the next morning. What I'm going to do is place the rolls shaped and in the pan then covered into the fridge overnight. On Thanksgiving, I'll take them out, let them proof a few hours until very puffy, then bake an hour or two before the meal. They reheat very well in the oven just before eating!

  • @thegnoles
    @thegnoles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your sourdough pain de mie is the only recipe I use to make our sandwich bread now and is probably the best bread I’ve ever tasted so I’ve come back for more!! I’m about to make these rolls for the holidays and want to know if all 16 rolls will fit in the 10” round pan? I saw a picture and it looked like there were only 12 in there? Do I need the 9” square pan to fit all 16? Btw, I’m hauling my stand mixer the 800 miles to my parents’ house to make these and everyone is very excited! 😂

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Amazing! So glad you like the PdM-you'll love these rolls, too. You can definitely fit 16 in the pan, it will make for smaller rolls (which I think is good, too). I hope you guys love em and happy holidays!

  • @nargessvahdat7684
    @nargessvahdat7684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing this. I would love to make these can you plz tell me would all these rules/measurements be the same if I live in a hot humid country? Should I make any changes?
    Thank you ❤

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just be sure to watch the hydration of the dough, you might want to hold back some water I call for in the recipe during mixing to avoid over hydrating the dough. Also, keep an eye on the temperatures in your kitchen, if it's warm you might want to cool the water used for mixing, too, so the dough doesn't get too far above 78°F (25°C) at the end of mixing!
      If you're new to final dough temp and trying to keep your dough warm/cool, check out my guide, here: www.theperfectloaf.com/the-importance-of-dough-temperature-in-baking/
      Have fun!

    • @nargessvahdat7684
      @nargessvahdat7684 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much. I will use cool water as my kitchen is between 26-29 at this time and will hold back some of the water to balance humidity which is about 70-80% 🙏🌼

  • @bsseraphine
    @bsseraphine ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to prep these the day before so all i have to do is pop them in the oven on thanksgiving. Do i put them in the fridge to long proof once shaped into balls? Then butter before going into the oven? And should I let them get to room temp after the long fridge proof? Thank you.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After you divide the dough and shape it, place the balls into the pan and cover. Then, put the pan into the fridge overnight. The next day, take the rolls out and let them finish proofing on the counter, 2-3 hrs depending on the temperature until very puffy (like you see in the video), then apply the egg wash + salt, and bake. If you bake a little early than your meal, you can slide them back into the oven to gently warm. Enjoy!

  • @AllanAlach
    @AllanAlach ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For those of us without a stand mixer, how much kneading will the dough need to incorporate all the butter?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Knead by hand for 5-6 minutes before adding the butter. I like to use the slap/fold technique to quickly strengthen the dough. Once it is smooth and cohesive, then work in the butter but smearing it into the dough as you pinch and fold it in the bowl. Then finish the dough by folding it in the bowl, or if you're confident, more slap/fold on the counter. Should take maybe 10 minutes (not including the 10min rest I still recommend!).

  • @sladflob
    @sladflob ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These look really interesting, thanks! One question... are they noticeably sweet? I've been looking for a soft sourdough burger bun recipe for a while now but they all seem to have a fair bit of sugar in them. Would this recipe suffer if I left it out of the main dough? (I can live with the 15g in the levain - I think)

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are definitely NOT sweet. The sugar is there more for textural reasons, to help yield a super soft bun. As I mention in the vid, they have a subtle, mellow sourness kind of like buttermilk. I don't think you'll be disappointed with these as they are!

    • @sladflob
      @sladflob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theperfectloaf thanks for the info! Looks like something fun to try this weekend 👍

  • @DLovWife
    @DLovWife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought the book! I can’t wait to read and grow my knowledge on sourdough bread. I have been using a formulaic method in making my bread. Do other types of breads other than Sourdough bread have a formula? I basically choose the size of my Banneton proofing basket. I know the total weight of dough the basket can handle. From the weight I can calculate the Total flour and then choose my Hydration , preferment, and salt percentages. Does this mathematical approach to bread only work for sourdough bread? I would love to learn a mathematical approach to other types of bread!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can use Baker's Percentages with any bread formula/recipe, yes!

    • @DLovWife
      @DLovWife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theperfectloaf I know that I mostly do a 70% hydration, 2% salt, and maybe 35% preferment for rustic or sourdough bread. Are there standard percentages for eggs, butter, oil, milk? I couldn’t find any in the BBA. Just individual recipes. I bought your book last night and can’t wait to crack it open.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DLovWife No standard percentages, per se, just intuitive guidelines, I think. Since everything is related to every other thing, it all has to be considered (multiple dependent variables). Let me know how you like the book!

  • @Tracie804
    @Tracie804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These look amazing. Would they work out if shaped into burger buns?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, they'd work super well that way!

  • @michelemunoz3834
    @michelemunoz3834 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve made this twice before and they came out amazing, i even turned it into a loaf! Now I can’t get my levain to rise when I add sugar for some reason

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Amazing to hear that! Hmm, that's very strange. You should see *more* rise in your starter if the correct amount of sugar is added. Be sure you're not adding too much, because yes, at some point it will reduce activity significantly. It does take longer to ripen with sugar (and be sure it's nice and warm, too)!

  • @karlinashieldmaiden5073
    @karlinashieldmaiden5073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it will change the outcome, but could I use avocado oil instead of butter and a plant based milk instead of the dairy milk?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've not tried avocado oil, but many report great success with Earth Balance Vegan Butter. And for the cow milk, yes a full-fat oat milk or nut milk will work very well!

  • @svitlanarichardson6812
    @svitlanarichardson6812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make sourdough cinnamon rolls recipe please?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do have a recipe, will work on a video soon :) Here's the recipe: www.theperfectloaf.com/sourdough-cinnamon-rolls/

  • @nancycuppy2371
    @nancycuppy2371 ปีที่แล้ว

    is your french toast in the recipe book?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      It isn't unfortunately! But really, any FT recipe will work well 🙂 I do like to slice these rolls and let them sit out on the counter, uncovered, overnight, to get a little stale before making FT with them.

  • @DoreenKaten
    @DoreenKaten ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I put in refrigerator after fully proofed and bake in 2 days?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They will likely over proof if left that long and they were "fully" proofed. It's better to shape them and place them into the pan, then cover it and place the dough into the fridge. It'll last 1-2 days this way, then take it out the day you want to bake them and let them finish proofing until puffy, then bake.

  • @corydoffing3550
    @corydoffing3550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could this recipe be used to make stand-alone rolls on a larger cookie sheet? Or would the softness of them not give them enough strength to stand on their own?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you shape tightly, it could work. But yes, the dough is very soft! I think if the dough isn't spread out too far and they can slightly support each other, it's better.

    • @corydoffing3550
      @corydoffing3550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Another great recipe! @@theperfectloaf

  • @user-yb4eu9jx6v
    @user-yb4eu9jx6v 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should make famous Indian vadapav with it..

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      would love to try that!

  • @abegailthomas2061
    @abegailthomas2061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How far in advance do I need to make Tangzhong? Can I make it the night before I mix everything?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can make it the morning you mix, or the day before. If I make it the day before, I cover and put it in the fridge. Try to let it warm to room temp before mixing it into the dough.

  • @sidneyhufford5630
    @sidneyhufford5630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use a glass baking pan for these rolls?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I would say you might need to bake a little longer, depending on how think the pan is. Also, if you find that tends to stick, very liberally butter the glass pan before putting in the rolls, or line it with parchment paper (just in case)!

  • @MrWolferino
    @MrWolferino 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Maurizio! I have a strong starter that doubles easily within 4 hours. But when I use it for a sweet levain, hardly anything happens and the sourdough dies. Do you have an idea where the problem lies? I appreciate any hint you can give me!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can really depend on how much sugar your adding to the levain. If you're using one of my recipes, I have that carefully accounted for. But also, when you add sugar, you will need much more fermentation time for the levain!

  • @mtrend1800
    @mtrend1800 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you substitute the sugar for honey? That’s what I have on hand at the moment.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sugar really is needed for the levain! In the main dough, you can.

  • @dannshapiro1201
    @dannshapiro1201 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you add the bread flour to the mixing bowl, is the 44g of flour from the tangzhong subtracted the 550g you have listed; and the same for the liquid?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      In the video description above, the tangzhong flour and liquid is already removed from the totals and shown in the Tangzhong section. In the Dough Mix Ingredients, that's everything you add to the mixer right at that time.
      Hope that makes sense!

    • @dannshapiro1201
      @dannshapiro1201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theperfectloaf
      So, if I do have this correct. To the mixing bowl, the following occurs:
      Add the tangzhong (which contains 41g flour and 166ml milk)
      Add the levain (which contains 74 fresh flour, 74ml fresh water and 30 starter (and 30 sugar))
      Add 328g AP flour and 148 bread flour
      Add 181 ml water
      This brings the total flour to 41+74+328+148 = 591g
      This brings the total liquid to 74+166+181 = 421ml
      Adding the salt @ 11g, the sugar @ 53g and the butter @ 95g then brings the final weight to:
      591+421+11+53+95+30g(ripe starter) to 1201g
      When I made the rolls yesterday I did NOT account for the 74 starter and water so my total was 1201 + 144 = 1345g. Tasted ok but wasn’t correct. Now I think I have the correct numbers. Since this was a new recipe for me that I will be using for Thanksgiving, I always have a test run making the item. Glad I did. Now I know. Even with the incorrect values, tastes very good. Will have to correct everything now and get the true taste. Dann

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannshapiro1201 Ahh, yes that would cause an issue. Glad they turned out okay, though! It's tricky listing all these ingredients this way, and I do it in a similar fashion on my website. Where I list "Total Formula" that's where I have all ingredients needed together in one big chart. As I've written above, I bread them out to try and avoid confusion. Have a wonderful holiday meal!

    • @dannshapiro1201
      @dannshapiro1201 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theperfectloaf Thanks, you too. Looking for more tangzhong recipes.

  • @soniajuneja9256
    @soniajuneja9256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it okay of I do with hands? Dont have a standmixer

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, for sure. Just be sure to strengthen the dough by hand until it's very strong before adding the butter.

  • @user-cs3io9un5n
    @user-cs3io9un5n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have leftover levain can you refrigerate and use later?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can definitely refrigerate it, but I wouldn't use it for bread. Instead I'd use it to make a discard recipe, like this Italian cake: th-cam.com/video/Q51c435KSRk/w-d-xo.html

  • @sherrybirchall8677
    @sherrybirchall8677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would these work if some of the flour is whole wheat?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could, just know the more whole grains, the denser and potentially more sour/complex the flavor-which is totally fine in my book, especially given the added flavor and nutrition. I'd start at 10-20% whole grain flour to total flour in the recipe, then work it up through testing.

  • @amanyel-kasas7237
    @amanyel-kasas7237 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can i use hard coconut oil instead of butter??

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, that should work just fine!

  • @debcambria665
    @debcambria665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made these but although they tasted good, very heavy, took long to bake. Disappointed but I'll try again

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, Deb! I bet they were a little underproofed. Be sure to keep that dough warm and to give them as much time as needed in bulk fermentation and proof. The dough should be *super* soft and puffy to the touch when baking. Keeping the dough warm will speed up fermentation. Let me know how the next bake goes!

  • @mattperron5939
    @mattperron5939 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know what I did but I royally f’d this up. My dough isn’t pliable at all on first stretch and pull like yours

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm. did you forget some of the liquid!?

  • @jeffreyostermiller9875
    @jeffreyostermiller9875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny story: My partner and I were working out the Thanksgiving menu last night. I said, "I'll check Perfect Loaf to see if there is a good dinner roll recipe." I woke up this morning and saw this in my news feed. The universe has spoken!
    I've been working my way through so many of your recipes. I've asked Santa for your cookbook for Christmas, so lets hope I've been a good boy this year.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha, amazing. These rolls will not steer you wrong 🙂 I hope you enjoy the book, too! Happy baking, Jeffrey.

  • @cisconava7723
    @cisconava7723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the hardest loaf I’ve tried. Not sure what I’m doing wrong. Also, love the book bought it when it went on pre-sale a long time ago. 3rd attempt today. So, I work long days leave house around 530 am and usually get home around 530pm. How can I work around my times?

    • @athena61
      @athena61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is it possible for you to make them over the weekend? Here’s a sample schedule: make the levain at 9:00pm, Friday evening. Saturday morning at 8:00am start main recipe and work though to shaping (finished shaping around 2:15pm, approximately). After shaping and placing in pan, place wrapped pan in freezer. Take rolls out of freezer about 4 hours before baking. Hope that helps. Basically you just need to have 6-7 hours mostly free to mix, bulk ferment, and shape the rolls before freezing them to bake at your convenience.

    • @cisconava7723
      @cisconava7723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I will give it a shot next weekend. Weekdays are usually better and will have to figure something out. Thank you @athena61

    • @athena61
      @athena61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cisconava7723 you’re welcome. Good luck.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's definitely a challenging dough, but using the refrigerator helps quite a bit. Pop it in there for 20 minutes before you divide and shape the dough.

  • @toasty3593
    @toasty3593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would there be a difference between a stiff sweet leaven and the sweet leaven used in this recipe? I'd assume that the stiff sweet leaven would ferment slower, but also keep peak longer?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      In my experience, yes, a stiff levain has a bit more leeway in terms of when it has to be used (a larger ripeness window). It should also result in a stronger dough, which is why I don't go with a stiff levain here, the dough is already quite strong (helped in part by the tangzhong)!

  • @denargakocken
    @denargakocken 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would this work with ghee instead of normal butter?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, absolutely. Might be even better, in fact.

    • @denargakocken
      @denargakocken 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theperfectloaf do you think the weight of butter could be translated to ghee directly or should I use more?
      I migh have been a heck of a chef but now I am only a humble hobby baker 😁

  • @stephaniesaw9336
    @stephaniesaw9336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, if handmix the dough, if there is any technique required as if has to be similar way as the way you did the folding ?
    What's the use of sugar does to the dough ? If could be reduced in dough and just use pure starter rather than sweet starter ?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      If mixing by hand, I would use the slap/fold technique: www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/
      Sugar brings a little sweetness to the dough, but more importantly, it makes the final buns even softer and also helps them stay soft for longer. If you reduce the sugar in the dough, expect that fermentation will speed up dramatically, you'd have to keep an eye on the dough and divide it earlier!

  • @Eli-ry3xg
    @Eli-ry3xg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine came out like soup. What in the world did I do wrong?
    You said it was okay to use one type of flour if that’s what we had. I used an all purpose 476 g 11.5% protein.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That flour should have been just fine, but it sounds like the dough was overhydrated quite a bit. It might just be the flour you're using. I would reduce the liquid in the recipe dramatically next time, that will definitely help fix this issue. Sorry about this!!

  • @confidentwreck
    @confidentwreck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi - so I made these and the rolls were at 208 degrees and well-browned within 25 mins. I know you aren’t my personal bread trainer but…any ideas?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would start the bake at 400F, a lower temp!

    • @confidentwreck
      @confidentwreck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the reply. I just realized that I had the oven on convection bake. For the last 5 months of bread baking. No wonder everything cooked in 15 minutes less than it should have. Argh. I’m an idiot. (PS My mom and I are both hooked on your writing style and video presentations. Great job!)

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@confidentwreck happens to us all! Happy to help, and so glad you guys are enjoying everything 🙂 Keep me posted on how it's going.

  • @jmherbst87
    @jmherbst87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tips to convert this from sourdough to active-yeast? Thinking about just making the sweet-levain with just yeast instead of the starter, but not sure how much yeast to use?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, it's hard to say, Jake. I'm guessing 1% yeast to total flour in the recipe? I don't have a lot of experience with commercial yeast! Definitely go with osmotolerant yeast due to the sugar in the dough.

  • @llamamamadeb
    @llamamamadeb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can these be easily made vegan? They look wonderful!!!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, absolutely. Swap out the butter for vegan butter (like Earth Balance)

  • @mowens4551
    @mowens4551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I make these Sweet Potato Rolls?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, yes you can 🙂

    • @mowens4551
      @mowens4551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for replying back 👍🤗 at what point do I add the mashed sweet potato?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mowens4551 I add potato in when mixing all the ingredients together. Be cautious not to add too much to this recipe because it's already a very soft dough!

    • @mowens4551
      @mowens4551 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theperfectloaf Is 1/2 cup too much? I also have KA Bread flour

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mowens4551 1/2c feels about right

  • @milliegriner4970
    @milliegriner4970 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you double this recipe?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, absolutely. Just double all the ingredients!

  • @karaboling4438
    @karaboling4438 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would these be good to make into hamburger buns?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, they certainly would :)

    • @karaboling4438
      @karaboling4438 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theperfectloaf finally got around to making these and my goodness they were worth the effort. Soooo very soft. This will be on repeat every Monday for burger night. Thank you.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@karaboling4438 so glad you guys like these!! They're amazing. Enjoy :)

  • @renaalam6844
    @renaalam6844 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be better if you it was measured by spoon or cup, I don't know anyting about grams look good bet taste even better

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's so much more accurate to measure by weight (for instance, think about the weight differences when scooping flour, it can vary wildly!).

  • @Sarah-zg5qs
    @Sarah-zg5qs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    try using mashed potatoes, it does the same thing as you are describing.

  • @debcambria665
    @debcambria665 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that's it. Lolol

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว

      IMO all good things take time 🙂

  • @BeardyPitts
    @BeardyPitts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    40 min cook time seems long 🤔
    I'll trust the process though!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lots of dough in a tall pan! Definitely check in on them in the last 10 mins as always, every oven (and location) is different 🙂

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, the second half of the bake is at 350F!

  • @Tree-Jed-Ant-Ri
    @Tree-Jed-Ant-Ri หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look's good but is too much butter for my taste

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It definitely doesn't taste "buttery" in any way. I'd say give it a try just to see 🙂

  • @vickyrussell268
    @vickyrussell268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok what am I missing here? I live in America and we don't measure by grams... we measure with tbs tsp cups...? What's with all gram measurements?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Many bread bakers measure with the metric system for accuracy versus measuring by volume (which is inaccurate with flour!).

  • @rajkumaritolani7303
    @rajkumaritolani7303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes too much repeated talk of almost 7 mins ….im sure these are lovely but pls get to the method earlier wud be better …. Tang hi g is the method Asians use for the sifted breads n yes the quantity of sugar too but not necessarily castor … though it helps to dissolve faster ….Thank uuu

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Working to make these videos more "to the point" :)

  • @goldlover5915
    @goldlover5915 ปีที่แล้ว

    dairy not healthy!

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everything in moderation, I say 🙂 You can sub out the cow's milk for a full fat nut or oat milk, too.

    • @helloneighbor11
      @helloneighbor11 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then don't consume dairy. Why bother to comment?

  • @Chloe_likes_to_draw
    @Chloe_likes_to_draw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Good stuff but the video is too long. Being more concise would help.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Yes, working on keeping these short and sweet in the future 🙂

    • @nickycorrea8383
      @nickycorrea8383 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@theperfectloaflove that you take the time to be so detailed. It’s what I love about your videos. You give your viewers and fans all of the tools and information they need to succeed. Now it’s up to them! I can’t wait to start working on this recipe ❤

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@nickycorrea8383 thank you, Nicky 🙂 It's all about the details! I hope you love these, I just mixed a double batch last night for my kids' Thanksgiving lunches. Have fun!

    • @scottnickerson7876
      @scottnickerson7876 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Disagree! It's detailed and explains instead of just tells. If you can't focus for 17 minutes, that's a you problem

    • @cisconava7723
      @cisconava7723 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I rather a long video then short one. Bread making isn’t a short process so I think the more info the better. Just my thought.

  • @veroniquecampbell1692
    @veroniquecampbell1692 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the recipe. But wow that was a lot of talking.

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hehe, just explaining a bit more about why the recipe works!

    • @puidemare2337
      @puidemare2337 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did you need to make that negative comment to someone who is sharing their time and knowledge?

    • @lolakmet
      @lolakmet ปีที่แล้ว

      Could I use honey instead of white sugar?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lolakmet You could, but I have not tried this!

  • @nigarparsonage5526
    @nigarparsonage5526 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing this! I dont have KItchenaid. Can i make the dough with hands?

    • @theperfectloaf
      @theperfectloaf  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, you can. Just hold back the butter until later in the mixing process until the dough is well strengthend. Then, smear it into the dough.

    • @ah7smpa853
      @ah7smpa853 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would these make soft hamburger rolls. Summer is approaching and I need a hamburger sour dough recipe