can you guess the tricks for this integral??

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024

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  • @juniorcyans2988
    @juniorcyans2988 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful! I love this kind of problems. I learned some unexpected tricks! Thank you so much!

  • @rubenverg
    @rubenverg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    either "adding zero" or "multiplying by one"

  • @clementcoine1581
    @clementcoine1581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Another way to solve it: let F(a) to be the integral of (1-e^(-ax)/x)^2 (on ]0,+infinity[) so that the integral we want to evaluate is F(1).
    F is differentiable on ]0,+infinity[ and F'(a) = 2 ln(2) (it is a Frullani integral), so that F(a)=2ln(2) a + C.
    Take the limit when a goes to 0+ to get F(a)=2ln(2)a : F is in fact linear ! And we get 2ln(2) for F(1).

    • @richardheiville937
      @richardheiville937 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      integration by parts + Frullani, so no need to introduce parameter.

    • @DanielPoupko
      @DanielPoupko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that in order to prove Frullani, you have to do something somewhat similar to what Michael does in the video.

    • @clementcoine1581
      @clementcoine1581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DanielPoupko Right, one way to compute Frullani integrals is to use Fubini, which is what Michael did.

  • @vadimkhudiakov526
    @vadimkhudiakov526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Integration by parts two times leads to int 2ln(x)(exp(-x) - 2exp(-2x))dx, in second term we make replacement t = 2x, so int 2ln(x)exp(-x)dx - 2 int ln(t/2) exp(-t))dt. The log part cancels, and we get elementary integral 2ln(2)int exp(-x)dx = 2ln(2)

  • @EvilidelRio
    @EvilidelRio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2*ln(2) = ln(4)

  • @alexsokolov1729
    @alexsokolov1729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can do integration by parts and obtain integral of 2 (exp(-x) - exp(-2x))/x which is Frullani integral equal to 2*exp(-0)*ln(2/1) = 2ln2

  • @sunsetclub4132
    @sunsetclub4132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What was stopping us from just doing the power series of e^-x and integrating through that?

  • @balpedro3602
    @balpedro3602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The integral is the limit as epsilon goes to 0+ of the integrand between epsilon to infinity. Then, developing the square we have the integrals of 1/x^2, minus twice the integral of e^(-x)/x^2 plus the integral of e^(-2x)/x^2. Taking in the third integral the change y=x/2, the last two integrals almost cancel each other exceot fior the integral from epsilon to 2(epsilon) of e^(-x)/x^2. Finally using a Taylor expansionj with three terms for e^(-x) we obtain that the integral is 2Ln2 plus an error term of order epsilon and we are done.

    • @dimastus
      @dimastus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ++, I've also used this method)

  • @deltavalley4020
    @deltavalley4020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe combine the logs before applying integration by parts

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I would start by rewriting ((1-exp(-x))/x)^2 as (1-exp(-x))^2/x^2 and then by integration by parts
    Then substitution u = exp(-x) leads us to the integral
    2*Int((u-1)/ln(u),u=0..1)
    From this moment it is easy to use Leibniz rule for integration
    or to use double integral
    Int((u-1)/ln(u),u=0..1)
    via Leibniz rule for integration
    Let I(t) = Int((u^t - 1)/ln(u),u=0..1)
    I'(t) = Int(u^{t},u=0..1)
    I'(t) = 1/(t+1)
    I(t) = ln(t+1)+C
    I(0) = 0
    I(t) = ln(t+1)
    I(1) = ln(2)
    so result is 2ln(2)

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alernatively after integration by parts we can calculate Laplace transform of (1-exp(-t))/t and plug in s=1

  • @Mario_Altare
    @Mario_Altare 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frullani was here.

  • @damascus21
    @damascus21 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Taking the natural log a lot

  • @jellevanderdrift1302
    @jellevanderdrift1302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ima guess a series expansion

  • @nasim09021975
    @nasim09021975 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never get tired of this: " ... and that's a good place to stop!! " 😄
    woot woot \o/\o/

  • @andreasavraam6898
    @andreasavraam6898 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Integral of ln(z+a) = (z+a)ln(z+a) - z, NOT (z+a)ln(z+a) - (z+a), check the by parts calculations
    Afterwards the z cancel out and you're left with just the logs, good thing the 1 cancels out by itself with the limits

  • @TheMichaelmorad
    @TheMichaelmorad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can use Feinman's technique, actually, I was suprised you didn't

    • @jkid1134
      @jkid1134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what I was thinking

  • @lagnugg
    @lagnugg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my dumbass used ramanujan's master theorem lol (with taking a limit because Γ(z) has a pole in z = -1)

  • @Alan-zf2tt
    @Alan-zf2tt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It went from dx to dz dy dx then to 2 ln2 too too incredible too? 🙂

  • @magicianwizard4294
    @magicianwizard4294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought maybe Feynman's technique or Laplace transforms

  • @leif1075
    @leif1075 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whyb use x y and z as triple integrsl..why not just x and y and then convert to polar coordinated maybe? I dont see any advantage..

  • @567secret
    @567secret 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want to use a vanishing contour integral at infinity but I can't find a contour that would work. It's hard because f(z) only has a removable singularity and is not even.

  • @marc-andredesrosiers523
    @marc-andredesrosiers523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fubini's approach should have had been presented.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waiting to add zero or multiply by one in a particularly clever way. Oh well... 🤷‍♀

  • @minwithoutintroduction
    @minwithoutintroduction 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    فكرة رائعة

  • @harrymattah418
    @harrymattah418 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in the integration in x, what happens if y+z=0?

    • @lagnugg
      @lagnugg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it only happens in one point y = z = 0, so it will not affect the answer. look at it as an improper integral

    • @harrymattah418
      @harrymattah418 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lagnugg Sure. but it was worth mentioning. At least.

    • @lagnugg
      @lagnugg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harrymattah418 fair, but i understand why the author omitted the explanation

  • @stephenhamer8192
    @stephenhamer8192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bit worried about your application of Fubini's Thm 3 mins in.
    Looks better if you work backwards. Start with:
    double int [1, 1] exp (x(y+z)) dy dz
    Now write the above as an iterated integral in which we're first int wrt y and then z
    = int [0, 1] { int [0, 1] exp (x(y+z)) dy } dz
    Factor the exponential, and take the factor exp xz outside the y int (treating it as a const.)
    = int [0, 1] { int [0, 1] exp xy dy } exp xz dz
    Now factor the whole y-int out of the z integral, treating _that_ as a const.
    = { int [0, 1] exp xy dy }. { int [0, 1] exp xz dz }
    which is what we want

  • @comdo777
    @comdo777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @comdo777
      @comdo777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      asnwer= 1xd

  • @landsgevaer
    @landsgevaer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The trick is to skip to the end of the video, perhaps? That trick works for most integrals that are presented like this...

  • @ガアラ-h3h
    @ガアラ-h3h 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guess he is gonna use x = 1/x and then use the fact that expressed via trig functions that’s pretty advanced tho