Kawai CN470 Digital Piano Repair - Pads - Mon. 10/01/18
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- Kawai CN470 Digital Piano Repair - Pads - Mon. 10/01/18
Steve Hacker goes into more depth this time, with Kawai CN470 digital piano repair. The last video and any work done on this piano was 3 1/2 years ago. That repair held up EXCELLENTLY. This is PAD replacement - a different repair, but much more detail this time, and many people's questions from the last Kawai repair video are answered here... My apologies for the raw and shaky nature of this video. I wasn't even planning on making a video, and realized at the last minute that I could help a lot of people with previous questions, so I used my phone, and let it roll. Raw, shaky, and zero editing. Sorry... Feel free to ask questions, like, comment, subscribe, etc.... THANKS! ...Steve...
For those looking to do this repair, the small rectangular pads under the keys are called "slip tape." Kawaii doesn't carry the originals for this piano, but part number #020-05-101 is the newer equivalent. They sell them for about a dollar each, plus shipping.
Is that a dollar each key?
Hey, Steve, you're a life saver. I appreciate the level of detail in this video. My keys are dropping loudly where the hammer bed is worn down, so I'll be doing the weather stripping replacement across there. Where is the video of that repair? You mentioned it was a few years before this one, but I'm not seeing it on your channel. If it's no longer available that's fine, the most helpful thing was knowing which material to use.
Edit: Disregard my question, I found the video. Thanks again!
Fantastic! I’m so glad these videos helped! It’s always good to know that you’ve created value for someone else. Just shout if you need anything, or have any questions! You can message me here, but even better is to email me at stevejhacker@yahoo.com, and even better than that, really, is just texting me at 229-416-8340 (Southwest Georgia)… Best of luck! 😊😊😊
I'm from the Philippines can you send me the link where you bought the piano parts
Hi Steve - I, for one, am very grateful for these videos because without them, things would be much more difficult for me....reagardless of the camera stability or angle. I haven't seen any of the complainers post their own version of these with a curated set and production crew, so .....there's that.
Anyway, I've reached out to Kawai and they said they are unable to provide these pads, as they are discontinued. I'm not sure if they truly are, or if perhaps there's a communication issue - because it doesn't seem like they knew exactly what I was talking about. So I have three questions - are you aware of a part number, or exactly what these are called (besides key pads)? Also, do you happen to know the dimensions of them (primarily thickness) and what they're made of, in case I need to find alternatives - so I know what I should look for? Lastly, might you have a particular contact at Kawai you can refer me to, who would know exactly what I'm talking about?
Thanks again for what you've done here!
I have a new CN29... A few keys on the front or sides lower down have a little of that white toothpaste looking substance. It's prob. that grease you talked about. I was worried b/c i wasn't sure if a couple keys had a dot of plastic melt. If it's the grease, is that okay? Should I leave it? The piano's bran new. I hope someone can help
i got a kawai a few months back. picked it up for 30$. i was pretty sure they got rid of it because of the same reason.. so i checked it out and its thoes contacts that went bad. i looked around hard but like everyone else i can’t find any. i did see though where you said to get ahold of the company n ask, so hopefully it works.
Best of luck!
The solution to a very simple problem!
Every third key on my kawai concert artist doesn't work what could the problem be?
I’m not sure without seeing it myself, but it sounds more like an electronics problem and less like a problem with your physical contacts...
I have a few keys on my kawai that will need this pad repair. Thank you!! What about notes that squeak when played?
It depends on where specifically the squeak is coming from, but I’ve found that regular hardware store/auto parts store variety white lithium grease takes care of all lubrication needs, and this was actually recommended to me by the parts manager at Kawai...
It took you 30 mins? And one hand only? Its gonna take me 3 months. But thank you very much the very same note got stuck on my kawaii, over 20 years old and it still works except that key. Can u post the link on where to get the pads?
It’s really not a bad job... I’m not sure of your location, but I would just suggest going to the company web site and emailing support from there to get parts. That’s what I did. Let me know if you still need assistance after trying that: stevejhacker@yahoo.com
HI Steve, Really helpful video, just like your earlier one for the CN470. I've just sent off a query to Kawai Europe for those grey pads. Just one query: at 3:34 you say you've already "loosened up the sides" to lift off the keyboard cover, but after removing as you did the "top back panel" (unscrewing the six screws at the back), I couldn't see how you carried out this second stage, i.e. the loosening of the sides. Were the screws for doing this the large ones in each top corner visible when the "top back panel" was taken off? Thanks, Martin (Ibiza, Spain)
MartinSPN ... I honestly can’t remember now, 8 months later. I’ve worked on a bazillion other keyboards and other pieces of gear since then. The screws were “somewhere”. Ugh... Sorry that’s not helpful. What I DO remember though, is putting a fairly strong force on each side to push the sides out a little to make it possible to pull the keyboard cover out of its track on one side, and once one side comes out, the other follows easily. Now that I think about it as I write this, it seems like the screws were underneath and VERTICAL on each side wall (?????). I’m obviously not sure though. I’ll have to go back and look at it when I get time... Sorry I couldn’t be more immediately helpful...
@@SteveHacker Thanks, Steve. No hurry (if and when you do find out), as I'm off to the UK for three weeks, and who knows when I'll be receiving the grey pads from Kawai. What you said was very helpful, actually. I've been wanting to do something about my piano for ages, so fingers crossed I can get this sorted. It's a great machine, apart from this problem.
Hi Steve, I'd really appreciate your help. I have a Kawai CN290 with one key that's depressed. I have taken out the keyboard unit but it is a different configuration to your demo. There's no metal cover at the back (you refer to it as a back check). I can see some screws down between each key but I think if I take those out I'll never get them back in again!
I’m not familiar with your particular model, but I bet that, while it may be different from mine, that we can figure it out together. Would you be interested in me helping you over the phone, or better, FaceTime or Skype, so I can see yours? If so, and assuming you are in the U.S., please feel free to text me at: 229-416-8340 so we can set up a time ... If you are not in the U.S., message me on Facebook Messenger at: “Steve N Brandon”, and we can video chat via Messenger no matter where you are in the world. You can also email me at stevejhacker@yahoo.com but by far, the quickest way to reach me is by text followed by a video chat (I don’t use Zoom though)... Just let me know... Thanks, and best of luck!
@@SteveHacker That's so kind Steve, thank you very much. I'm in Australia so I'll connect via facebook.
Just to add to my comment..sorry I see everyone asks you the exact same question, but if you do have updates still appreciate it
Hi! Where can I find those kawai pads? I don't know if it is because I'm from another country but I can't find anything on the internet, could you please provide me a link? I'd really appreciate it.
Regards!
I just emailed the service department for the company, and connected with the parts manager; no problems. Now this was years ago, so I don’t know if it’s still that easy, but go to the company web site and email support/service, and see if that works. If it doesn’t, email me at stevejhacker@yahoo.com and I’ll see if I can help in some other way. Best of luck!
@@SteveHacker I sent you an email. Thanks!
@@alxa6057 … Replied… 😊😊😊
the switches to change sounds do not work i got a few of them working.
Hello, Steve. I’m writing from Spain, so I apoligize beforehand for my English. I’ve got a CN470 which has just the same problem: it has to get the pads changed. I’ve looked for the pads for myself through the Internet, but I can’t find them. I wrote “kawai pads”, “pads digital piano”, etc., with no result. Would you please tell me an exact reference of the product so I can contact any provider and order it? Moreover, my CN470 needs to get the yellow felt band changed (the one at the bottom, where the hammers rest): again, I couldn’t find it through the Internet, either in Spanish or in English: could you tell me how to call it exactly? Thank you very much!
José Villar Buzón ... Did you see my other video before this one showing how to replace the felt with weather stripping? It’s worth a watch. Several years later my weather stripping is still performing flawlessly. Regarding your pads, have you tried contacting the company directly? If not please email me at stevejhacker@yahoo.com and remind me to find contact information for you, or you can even contact me on Facebook Messenger via “Steve N Brandon” if you want (actually probably a better way to reach me right now). I may even be able to send you some pads if you don’t have very many bad ones. My main point though is this: I WANT TO HELP YOU, but things are very chaotic right now in the U.S. ... I’m sure they are for you too. Please stay safe and healthy... So, I will need some reminders from you and possibly several messages from you to keep yourself at the top of my to-do list during all this chaos. I hope this all makes sense... Take care and best wishes...
@@SteveHacker Thank you so much for your answer. Undoubtedly, I will have to wait for this chaos to fisnish and then contact “Kawai España”; if I don’t get the pads this way, I would try to contact Kawai America (and maybe I’d write to you soas to check the exact address). As for the video about the felt, I found it and I will watch it. Thank you again. Best wishes.
José Villar Buzón ... Best wishes to you as well. These are insane times indeed, and so, stay safe and healthy. I know you are having a tough time of it where you are. Here in Southwest Georgia, USA (in the lower left corner of Georgia, 30 minutes from both the Florida and Alabama state lines), we are several weeks behind where you are. New York City (20 hours north) is of course our epicenter, but here in our tiny rural southern town the infections are starting now; 10 infections as of yesterday, but no deaths yet, but we’ve been under a 9pm-5am curfew for a week, and now, today, FULL lockdowns begin for “shelter-in-place”. Nobody goes anywhere, not even outside in the yard, except for food, and other essentials. I’m a motorcycle enthusiast and so I just took my last sad “farewell” ride yesterday afternoon, knowing the bikes will be parked indefinitely from here on. That said, again, when things calm down, let me know if you still need help with your Kawai, and I will help you in any way I can. ...Also, worth noting is, I’ve (for obvious reasons) gone 100% online (Skype, Facebook Messenger, FaceTime, etc.) with my music lessons, so if you are interested, or if you know anyone interested, I’m taking students now, all around the world, for guitar, piano, voice, bass, etc. private lessons. Tell anyone you want. Time zone differences are no problem, as I never sleep anyway, LOL! The more, the merrier, all ages, and all skill levels, as I now obviously have PPPLENTY of free time while on lockdown. They’d just need to be able to speak a little English (I can only speak a TINY bit of Mexican-Spanish)... I’m even happy to give people a free introductory lesson to see if they like it before proceeding with asking for anyone to pay me. I think now, more than ever, it’s the time for the whole world to pull together through music... Best wishes to you... 😊😊😊
thank you. would you please tell how to remove the cover on aq kawai mp370 looks like two screws
I would have to see it firsthand...
How did you go? You are correct the hinges open up and the whole top opens toward the back. Unlike the one in this video where you just remove the top cover. you need to take all the screw out from the sides about 4 and the front panel about 7 screws, then the whole top opens up like a chest revealing the inner circuits and access to the keys
it looks like it has hinges but will not budge
Whats the purpose of those pads? I have a faulty key, but serms to be the rubber bands below, i cleaned the contacts, applied a pencil on the carbons, now 3 keys have that problem, so ima gonna clean them off. I switched the rubber band wtih other octave and the problem is in thos rubber contacts. When you press them hard they wont produce sound until a second or so passes, only when you press hard
You have a very different situation from what I had. My pad replacement had to do with the proper functioning of the action (the touch, and the key height)... Yours is about the actual electrical contact and the triggering of the note, if I’m understanding what you are saying...
@@SteveHacker yeah, but i was wondering if that part could be responsable as well, seems not. At least i can order a replacement, didnt thought id find it in Chile, ill try to clean the contacts with alcohol else ill order the rubber strip
freedomdst ... Yeah, completely different from anything making electrical or sonic contact. These pieces I’m replacing in the video mount on the TOPS of the keys... Is your model the same as this; Kawai CN470?
@@SteveHacker similar but newer, CN37. I finally got it to work, the key with issues seems to be 98% functional. I tend to believe it was the carbon contacts on the rubber strip, i cleaned them with a eraser then with some alcohol to remove any of my fingers grease, the pencil i applied before made it worse. So ill see how long it goes without problems.
freedomdst ... Excellent! Congratulations! Yeah, I could’ve told you the pencil thing would make it worse... LOL! ... But yeah, my next suggestion would have been exactly what you did: Thorough cleaning, and yes, most often with a pencil eraser followed by alcohol to remove any remaining particles; just like cleaning edge connectors on computer add-in cards...
Hello, where can I buy the pads? Plise
Straight from Kawai is where I got mine…
Were can I order these pads. Miy kawai piano keys are not leveled.
Jesse Jae ... I got them directly from Kawai America ... 2055 E. University Drive, Rancho Dominguez, CA... 90220 ... Email me at stevejhacker@yahoo.com , and after the New Years chaos calms down, and after I recover from a surgery I’m having right after that, I’ll get you an email address for direct contact with the parts manager... You could probably go to the web site and seek support and be fine that way, and it’s probably what I did a few years ago when I stockpiled these pads, but I honestly can’t remember.
I DO know that they were super easy to deal with. Great people...
I cut out a thin bit of plastic from a disc battery pack and glued it on. Fixed the droopy key.
@@SteveHacker How much did you pay approximately if you do not mind me asking? Do you have any spares, I need about 18 or so pads.
Dude! Its called a tripod. Also look into a Joby type one.
Dude! Get a F’ING LIFE! I wasn’t even planning on videoing, and YEARS AGO, when I shot this, tripods for my *PHONE* were the least of my concerns. Don’t even bother watching, “DUDE”! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@SteveHacker Hey, no problem. I was just stating the obvious I guess. If you don't see the truth in my words then it really is pointless to suggest anything. You need a little thicker skin on TH-cam. Don't assume people are trying to cut you down. I'm not. You obviously don't understand how I'm using my slang. Its said mostly in jest but with sincerity. Its not an insulting use of the words. Just assume people are being friendly, helpful and nice. Life works better that way. And when its obvious people are being hateful just assume its more because they're having an awful day than your video. You can't please all the people all the time, right?
@@swilhelm3180 … It’s just absolutely pointless constructive criticism. This was YEARS ago, it wasn’t about quality, but instead, information, it’s helped countless people fix their same or similar models, and I’ll probably never again make a video about this particular piano. It’s like giving constructive criticism to someone about how they drove in that one city that one time several years ago, but several years later. Utterly pointless…
Hi I need help with my kawai es3
Details please...
Whats is the model of Mine it was am umm E_37
What are you trying to say or ask?
@@SteveHacker im asking i cant find pictures online it was written on the back
Ronald Ong ... I’m still not sure what you’re asking. I’m assuming you are trying to find out the model of your keyboard. It should be written on it somewhere; either on the top, back, or on a plate on the bottom, where the serial number and other information is. If it’s not there, somebody has removed it and tampered with the keyboard. If that’s the case, you’ll have to use Google until you find a match...
Thank you i will try my best
God bless and stay safe
Let’s PUT WATER ON OUR HAND SO NO DUST (;
Huh? What does that even mean?
Wo
Less talk more repair. Thanks
Learn how to use the forward and backward and speed control functions. What a concept! It’s not rocket science!