honestly a series based around predators vs warriors from throughout human history would be great, templar knights, samurai, hashashins, even just gangsters or yakuza, there would be so many cool possibilities.
I always thought that one in either world war would be great, specially if 1- it made both sides fight together (not the SS tho fuck them) and 2-the predator had some cool coat made from some alien skin/fur for the cold climate
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 yeah that’d be cool but the whole time I’d be thinking, “oh so you just lost contact with that entire company right after they entered the forest? Bomb that bitch into oblivion” and I feel like they would’ve lmao. When the pred would be like making trophies and shit here comes an artillery strike a mile long 😂 but yeah some shit like the Ardennes with its fog would be awesome
@@YorkusPorkus757 now you bring up an interesting idea, this predator is hunting soldiers in a warzone, their prey has literal artillery, how would he deal with it ? Now that's would be awesome to see executed well Specially if we spent half of the movie in this with both sides thinking of sabotage and that the enemy is being extremely cruel killing their men and skinning them, untill the predator is made know to them And they all have to team up against him
Yeah one set on a jungle island in WW2 in the Pacific against imperial Japanese troops and/or US marines would be spot on maybe too close to the first predator but I'm sure with good writer and director you could flesh it out into its own. I think historically there was one island on the Pacific that the Americans pushed the Japanese to flee to the other side of the island crossing a swamp and in a span of two days they said a hundred Japanese soldiers were killed by salt water crocodiles.
I believe that this Predator was an adolescent who may have even been on his first hunt, that’s why he takes a snake and wolf skull, things that any more veteran Pred wouldn’t care for, on top of that he was very satisfied with the kill of a bear, something that would not compare to say a Xenomorph, so he is also not even blooded yet
Its implied that this is the first ever Predator to arrive to Earth(Since Avp is not really canon) so he would take trophies regardless but yeah he may have been Unblooded
Plus the behaviour and how easily this Predator gives in to anger, I'm definitely getting youngblood vibes. In past movies very rarely did a predator get so worked up and overconfident in battle.
While I do agree that this predator and possibly many of the predators we've seen in the other movies such as Predator 1 and 2 are young blood it's been confirmed that this is a different variant of predator altogether, similar to the bad bloods in Predators with how they were a larger and stronger variant than the normal one we're used to, but ultimately not a huge difference as the normal predator was still able to put up a good fight against the bad blood despite having damaged gear and being hung up like that for really who knows how long
It was an amazing movie, the "fodder" characters actually did a number on it and not just outright die, they were warriors and hunters and I like how you can see them go toe to toe with the pred.
I had the impression that Feral was a adolescent. He observed predator and prey interactions, took a hit in nearly every fight, has less advanced tech though that could be a clan cultural vs a rank in society thing, he's extremely flashy and shows off while he hunts but only against the massive group of Frenchmen(almost like he's showing off like the Youngbloods in AvP), and he isn't as reserved or I would even suggest experienced as Jungle Hunter. Becoming so enraged he fell for Naru's trap and shot in a rage at her brother even after seeing the masks guided system sending the spears off course. I thought his appearance was also due to his age but a subspecies makes more sense.
I think the director said that this predator looks different because he's from a different hemisphere of their homeworld; more of a desert environment. Therefore the morphological differences to previous predators
@@magisterapophis8714 true, I wrote that comment before I saw the vid. And ya It would be nice to know the lore of that particular predator but Its fun to speculate as well
Yes and no. It's true it's young blood and it was actually it's first hunt to prove himself to other, older Yautja. However as it was mentioned, it's just another species or subspecies of Yautja, making it second known another variant other than Super Predators. It seems that Yautja can be classified in 2 main species: "Classic Predators" and "Super Predators". What we've seen in Prey is more in "classic" aligment, however due to different environment of it's ancestors, it looks different from other Yautja. The best analogy is us and how different native Europeans look to native Africans. The environment shaped us differently, however we are still the same species. We can even go futher and notice that each clan can have it's own distinct set of characteristics which make them even more apart from each other, similar to how there are minor differences between certain groups of the same race. For instance just compare Yautja from one "Jungle clan" and then Yautja from "City hunters". They are the same species, and even subspiecies/race, but still look distinct from one another.
The one thing about Predator vs Alien that I loved was that Predators using the Xenomorphs as basically right of passage type stuff sets some ground rules on what kind of world the Yautja live on. It was easy to tell that this was the Feral’s first hunt.
Or at least its 1st Hunt as a Blooded or a Young Adult which is hilariously means that Naru is around the same age as the Feral Predator at least in Predator years.
this man is was tripping, Predator vs Alien wasn't the best. But better than this last WOMAN "learning" to become hunter.... I felt like predators was better than this as well. This predator movie was mid or below.
The Feral's lack of armor, advance tech, and experience when hunting may actually be the result of it simply being a young blooded predator who hasn't proven itself yet. Not necessarily a cultural difference between the Jungle Hunters and the Ferals.
The city hunter in predator 2 canonically was also a young blood trying to prove itself and it had all the gear the first jungle predator had (who is confirmed to be a blooded hunter) so I think the evidence of predator 2 points to this yautja being a subspecies or separate clan plus this yautja looks considerably bigger than the classic jungle hunter
@@Brodes235 So I wonder if some clans only allow a Yaujta to become fully blooded when they're able to hunt and kill a Xenomorph while others just need to kill something capable of being a threat
my personal headcannon is that it's an old predator that's wanting to have a worthy death, it had access to all the old tech they would have had in AVP but wanting a true challenge and worthy death is why it brought more primitive gear, less armour, and weaker weapons. kind of a to valhalla quest.
@@tylerwatson8722 Aight, that's a good headcanon. The only issue I have with is that logically speaking couldn't he rather go for the strongest know prey instead of weak humans?
The actors that played Naru and Tabe absolutely crushed their roles. That cheer Naru belts out after she kills the predator was awesome I was just as excited
Yeah, especially how 2022 is their vocabulary and accent... Narus perfectly trimmed and thinned eyebrows, acne and scar free skin fits so well with setting ! She is a primal Mary Sue, nothing more. People like you are either blind and lack attention span or they do really lack ability to think for themselves and repeat what mouthpiece "journalists" spew.
Her character arc could've been done in a better way but I agree, that victory cheer was infectious and deserved as she finally avenged her brother and to a lesser extant she also proved herself as a hunter. Though I feel the lesson should be to not let pride control you cause I feel she and the predator was in parallel like he was a reflection of her toxic pride and resentment of her family. Like a mindset that makes you think you can take down a bear with an arrow is exactly the type of recklessness the Predator showed, hunting for sake of hunting and not survival or self improvement to treat your prey as living and worth respecting.
Im under the belief that the "lower level" of the tech used by the Feral Predator was likely a sign of them selecting levels of gear and weapons that are more appropriate for the setting they are hunting. At this point, humans are very primative, with firearms being a pretty new thing to exist (at least in the American continents). So it human prey likely weren't seen as dangerous enough to warrant the plasma caster and more serious weapons they normally are seen using in other Predator movies. This is to help 'scale' the hunt difficulty down or up for the sake of honor and enjoyment. Similar to the example you used about a High level player in an MMO killing low level players, that would be a dishonorable hunt and no enjoyment could be had, if the Hunt is too easy, so they help to offset that with 'lower level' gear.
This is my impression as well. They have their particular Code, and seem to adhere very strictly to it. There is also this common explanation (not sure if its canon), that Yautja have a ranking system, similar to belts in a martial arts academy. The more experienced you are, the more dangerous game you will be allowed to hunt, which in turn grants you access to more formidable weapons. With the ultimate test being the Xenomorph. Feral pred used a load out that was appropriate to his hunting grounds. Razor frizbees, plasma casters and the rapid fire dart slinging spear... that stuff would have been overkill in 1719 Americas. And likely considered as dishonorable / unfair play. Also, he did a lot of bumbling mistakes, suggesting that he was a rookie. Dude was pretty wicked with those swords though, and knew his way around a tomahawk. I give him that. Also, that collapsible shield was the bomb.
My take too, although I think the dart weapon he used was probably more deadly than the plasma weapon in some ways. I.e., I think the plasma caster essentially shoots bolts in straight lines while the dart weapon seem to change trajectory and home in on the target! (Although that literally backfired at the end.) I agree it was probably chosen to closer match the tech of the time, rather than being a species trait (the plasma caster has a faster rate of fire for sure- swings and roundabouts) even if they're meant to be a different species/subspecies.
@@mardroidmk1393Late but it could also just be a preference thing, in videogames alot of people have their own preferred weapon loadout(s), perhaps some Predators enjoy using more "primitive" weaponry (primitive by their standards ofc) because in their mind: it's a reliable and time tested design/a handicap=more honourable hunt or showing off their skills. To coincide with the idea it's a preference thing, maybe some Preds use certain gear so long they grow attached or sentimental to the equipment, like a hunter keeping the same Knife they used to skin their very first target. furthermore in the case of prolonged use perhaps some Preds are more confortable with their weapon of choice and have grown accustomed to that weapons specific capabilities and design that they're more proficent with that weapon compared to others.
@@WavemaninaweI have also read that "normal" predators get weapons based on their prestige or rank. While also taking weapons based on prey. You aren't going to go hunting squirrels with a 8 guage shotgun with shells afterall. Remember in Alien versus predator how they B lined it to the plasma casters? They didn't come with them! They needed to go collect it to equip them against a tough foe. Always makes me laugh how they are basically player characters in an RPG. Unlocking better loot. Only reason why I think this one was a noob is due to how it acted in a movie. It got caught off guard multiple times. Got caught off guard by a charging horse! Then wounded and killed itsself. It lost its cool. I do like how it basically fires arrows, instead of plasma, and thought the shield was a nice addition.
There is, of course, always another possibility as to why it seemed to make more rash decisions when angered compared to the jungle one. This one could just be a dumbass by its own species’ standards
@@usernamealreadytaken9330 lol, the ship just abandons the Predator in this? Probably were told “ok find him some planet with some nice and easy prey, pick him up in a couple of weeks. If he lives, great, a bunch of trophies, if he dies, well, just proof that he really is a failure, it’s bound to be his own fault”
My absolute favourite moment is when it fights the bear. Like it was done so well. Especially how the Bear actually appeared to win at one point. Bears are incredibly powerful and would definitely go the knuckle with a predator on lower gear. Best part of the movie. Most realistic predator so far
@@timhoward846she used her brain not her muscles. She was shown time and again that she can’t outmuscle most of her oppositions so she had to formulate a plan. And it worked. What’s so wrong with that?
Another observation I had was that from what I remember the jungle hunters needed their masks to comfortably breathe earth’s atmosphere like for them they felt they were constantly out of breath but the “feral” predator’s mask doesn’t even cover its mouth so this Yautja can breathe our air perfectly well
Did that happen in the first film? I know in the second one the Predator was using a breathing mask every so often when he lost his normal mask but I put that down to it having an aversion to city pollution
@@antonironstag5085 well you have to keep in mind the original predator only had his mask off for at most 15 minutes probably less but the pollution probably is a factor as well
I just like to think this predator is more of brawler of his personal choice because of his fight against the bear and the French and I personally love that. I like to believe that each predator have different hunting style.
Well, personally, I like when my movies at least make sense. Like try telling me that a kitten is going to maul and kill a Rottweiler...with a shoulder cannon, after drinking a gallon of blood.
You are correct, the Yautja hunt according to their own tastes. There are rules they all have to follow tho. If you can believe it, their home planet crime rate is nearly nonexistent
yeah, an advanced species like that would evidently have individuality just like us, right? so, like some people like doing sort-of violent stuff in the way of boxing or other martial arts, other people like hunting. and then there's also people that enjoy fishing as a... semi-hunting/violence-like activity. there's probably some Yautja (unsure if i wrote it correctly) that enjoy just capturing creatures that are pretty slippery, evasive, or clever, then just release it after they've had their fun.
I actually really liked what they did with the mud scene. It was just a sly little nod towards the old movies, without leaning on it as a nostalgia plot point like a lot of reboots and remakes do these days. For the fans of the originals, it made us all get the member-berries, but it didn't force us to think about it too much, and instead used a whole new plot device which was established really well early on and showed in use when it was needed by Naru against the predator.
Keep in mind, Feral did get smacked in the head, shot point blank in the back of the head and had also been damaged elsewhere. I like to think he got angry and just wasn't thinking straight due to concussion
I agree with this. I thought it was pretty clear, especially on my 2nd watch, that the Predator was not thinking clearly in the final fight. He was either too angry or too hurt to be as effective as he normally would be. At that point, he had been stabbed in the foot, shot with numerous arrows and bullets, stabbed through the chest with his own spear, clubbed in the head from horseback, and shot directly in the back of the head from point-blank range, all within the last day or so. He was WAY more aggressive in the last fight with Naru, losing any sense of tactical skill and just using brute force.
@@Jourmand1r not nearly as much trauma as the yautja sustained. concussions are on a spectrum as well. she couldve had a very minor concussion and it was like it was a 30 foot drop onto concrete or sumn. just a tree in the tall grass
The technological differences are due to culture, not species or the like. This predator is an unblooded. He's trained, but has never gone on a hunt that could actually pose a threat to him. Only once he's risen in the ranks does he gain access to the more advanced elements like plasma casters We also see this in his personality. He's a cocky punk who turns on his cloaking device the moment shit gets real.
Its more due to them adusting their armament for the hunt. Jungle hunter had armor and a plasma caster, but he was going up against grunts with full auto weapons. Feral is expected to take on most things mostly bare handed since they don't have much in the way of weapons
I just watched Prey and (being a predator fan) I absolutely loved it. The trappers shooting then scrambling to reload was hilarious. After seeing all of the slaughtered buffaloes I couldn’t help but appreciate the fight against the predator and the men.
I believe a crew member (can't remember what role they were) tweeted several bits of information regarding 'Feral', the Predator seen in Prey. He confirmed that 'Feral' was from a more arid region of the Yautja homeworld hence the drastic difference in his appearance compared to the previous appearances who were from the more tropical regions or whatever the Yautja equivalent of that would be! Edit: I was informed that it was the original concept artist!
It was the original concept art drawer! he explained soo much about it essentially confirming this predator is from an arid desert environment and likely another planet colonized by yautja
their idea of feral uses traps and technology more efficiently than the previous iterations of a predator is honestly scary, the only part about the feral predator that is feral is its motive since most predators are hunting for a higher cause like collecting spines for dna, testing technology, or appointing authority, this one just hunts for the sake of the hunt, it simply enjoys what its made for
@@traphimawari7760 the twitter account of this predators designed also hinted and once again confirmed that yautja see the world more akin to modern snakes ie heat based patterns also this specimen born and raised on a more arid desert enviroment Additionally he also referenced something about their clans culture uses the skulls and remains of their prey
I’m glad Roanoke noticed that this predator seems to be way more emotional in his reactions to getting interrupted or attacked and even seem annoyed at certain points!
In the other movies, the predators were never really "feral" so we very rarely saw them take damage- but a savage predator getting beat up more because it doesn't do stealthy sniping too well is a nice detail.
I'd love to see another Predator movie set during a specific time period. Like imagine one about a crew of Vikings landing on a foreign shore expecting an easy raid, only to stumble into a Predators hunt.
That's a pretty good idea, plus the fact they arrived on a ship would give them a destination to work their way back to after encountering the predator. Like the helicopter in the original. GET TO THE BOAT
Also imagine a samurai/shinobi fighting a predator in warring states period, thinking it's an Oni. They're seriously missing out on potential with putting a predator in different time periods with different "classes" of warriors or fighters. Stuff would be so sick man
@@kennethsatria6607 like the old Alien vs predator game where you could play as all 3 races? I agree i just want more films like this and it being good and not cheesy
Historical? They butcher native history. They don't wear war paint and feathers 24/7. A native American woman should know that a hatchet will not kill an elk so all she would do is wound the elk. They wouldn't hurt an animal like that just to practice throwing a fucking hatchet. The hatchet throwing with a rope is impossible especially for a 95 lbs teen. There is nothing historically accurate at all. Some orange flower is make all you lr boo boos go away instantly. It is far from accurate
Why does the predator save her? It makes no sense. The predators are not good Samaritans. He keeps kicking things that are trying to attack other things. Like why does he care if animals have to eat. Also the 95 lbs superhuman points her bow at the predator which by predator logic should make her a combatant so he should go after her. But bc she doesn't shoot he doesn't attack her. So then by that logic everyone who stop attacking and runs away should be fine. But not he attack the dudes who try and get away but not the super woman.
I actually enjoy seeing that as the Yautja are explored more in each movie (The Predator being the horrific exception) All Yautja all had some differences, all different personalities, all different ways of hunting, and possibly cultures. In many ways they very much are like humans. Given that they only hunt prey for sport, it means that overall they are not hostile like your traditional aliens. Yautja clearly have morals, ethics, and if encountering another sentient being that manages to kill one of their own will at times approach the victor and offer them maybe a trophy. They even look down on member that breaks with traditional hunting to the point they are willing to hunt them down if possible.. Lets hope they create more time-period movies with the Yautja. So many opportunities and so many ways they could have influenced myths and legends through human history. A feral Yautja in ancient Egypt or the Middle East or Persia or the African Kingdoms would be awesome as technically he would fit the environment which would be considered closer to his biome. Plus seeing one of them wearing or adopting those ancient empires gear and clothing or styles would be interesting. Or another one back in the Jungles like during the era of the Aztec (obviously) Or the Mayans, Imagine Mayan or Aztec Warriors with Obsidian weaponry trying to take town a Yautja, then a later movie seeing a Yautja carrying Aztec or Mayan inspired weaponry. That would be terrifying. Would kinda fit them however. Just how to make that one work without someone screaming a re-hash of avp ......
I think a movie with the predators as the main characters would be cool when they talk to eachother we'd have to read subtitles and follow a young blood predator going on their first hunt it'd be cool to see their culture
We've seen plenty of the younguns. Apart from AvP2, and possibly The Predator, they've all been young, or fairly young in terms of Yautja lifespan. I'd like to see something with one of the vets. One similar to Wolf (from AvP2) putting a stop to a lot of the nonsense that this second species (and the one from The Predator) have been up to. Sort of like a game warden, turned up to 11. An executioner, leanign away from the general "the old Yautja style needs to die" mentality that modern film makers seem to have. That's really the point of the movies Predators and The Predator: for the filmmakers to say "ours are better". Really knock that mentality down a few pegs.
I’m pretty sure the Yautja had some mild differences in appearance depending which clan/faction they originated from on Yautja Prime, like how we have different races of human. I’m pretty sure the Hish-qu-Ten are even considered a distinct ethnic group amongst the Yautja, and considering there’s roughly 20 known clans (including bad bloods,) I personally believe that this Predator could come from a different Yautja clan/faction we haven’t seen yet, potentially even an extinct clan by the time of Predator (1987) rather then some kind of actual morphological change.
@@colohaust5332 You are correct, but the bad bloods have their own “clans” just without any specific or distinguished role since they are made of rogue Yautja from any other clan. Pretty sure there’s 4 bad blood “clans” but that’s also why I specifically said “including bad bloods” in brackets.
I really liked the idea of showing downgraded or more younger version of the predator species that didn't have their more technological weapons even while still having far more advanced weapons
My theory is that maybe since the predators were so advanced, they probably set up colonies on different planets. After several generations maybe some of the predators may have adapted to different circumstances on different planets more, resulting in their different appearances.
Yeah makes sense we know they've been exploring space for a long time the whole of human history seemingly. Though it does make sense there would be different kinds on their homeworld too. Whether part of the same species or not as culture and climate alone can alter a people. My guess is Predators the movie was set in one of those colonies dedicated to hunting. Earth was seemingly a colony in the AVP world building.
@@flamesofchaos13 Earth wasn't a Yautja colony in the AVP movies. But rather, a favorable hunting grounds. This is why they want to avoid Xenomorph outbreaks. To avoid spoiling the hunting grounds.
Hey Roanoke, I think you misunderstood the scene where the mother is crying. I believe it was a scene from Naru's memory where her brother went on a hunt and didn't come back with their father (as he is never shown or present) and is supposed to mirror the ending scene of the movie. The way the scene plays out makes it seem more like she is remembering her brother after his passing.
@@RoanokeGaming yeah, it was a bit confusing for me at first too because I don't actually remember seeing Naru in that memory and they could have made it a bit more clear. Thanks for all the uploads dude, love the content 👽👍🏻
I’d love to see you do a video on the Norwegian movie ‘Troll Hunter’. Very unknown but cool movie which delves into their anatomy and the science behind it in the movie too and would love to see you explain them even more!
I bought an alien vs predator style book a long time ago called “Prey” that was actually really friggin good. The hunting party was arrange with several young warriors and one or two older who were there as teachers and supervisors. It seemed to imply that the younger of the species was much more prone to hormone fueled stupidity and that their social hierarchy was built around that. Anyway, still have the book, would have made one hell of a movie, by Steve perry
Loved this movie as it definitely re-delivered home that the Yaujta are brutal and terrifying creatures that cannot be bested by strength alone. The fact that it nearly kills everything in a single hit is chef’s kiss. Pretty sure it had a concussion towards the end though. Got hit in the head numerous times and shot point blank.
One thing you can tell about his predator is that he's not blooded, you can gleam this because he has no skulls and no plasma caster. also through the movie you can tell he's learning and applying what he's learned from previous hunts. IMO i think this isn't so much a different species so much as a different iteration of the Yautja, but i guess we'll see in later movies.
It could sensesesne for the yautjas to change their approach systematially, when loads of their youngblood went on and die on backwater planets leaving behind tech and wasting potentially good lads to inexperience. Sending a blooded one with them makes sense. This could be one of the few last clans still doing shit the old ways, aka sending the unblooded alone on their own.
Friendly reminder: Mountain Lion attacks on Humans are rare and they are likely to be scared of you and run away or just try to avoid you altogether - unless they're mating or you are squatting/lying down looking like PREY... Let's be honest though, nobody likes having someone walking in on them when they're playing the game of procreation. Also, if you hear what sounds like a woman screaming in the woods - think twice before approaching as that might just be a cougar and NOT the type you meet at Applebee's!
Um no a mountain lion doesn't fear humans Especially lone humans try again don't give me that national park ranger horse 💩 😂 the real only saving grace is if the mountain lion thinks it can take you down easily
I know you mentioned and some others think the predator just decided to kill that french translator even though he came across dead just because, but i’m pretty sure he accidentally stepped on his severed leg and he screamed so he realized he wasn’t actually dead and unalived him
Something I remember from one of the Aliens vs Predator comics was a segment showing a young predator fighting a bunch of xenomorphs. It talked about how it’s fast and strong, but died because it’s movements weren’t calculated. I think that’s what’s going on with this one, why it’s taking so many hits and showing off so much
That’s what I’ve noticed about some Yautja, when they are reckless and cocky they are usually Unblooded or Young Bloods, while the Blooded/experienced Yautja (like Jungle Hunter) plan out an attack
Imagine the Predator’s soldier class. We’ve seen the hunters and what not, but I imagine they’d also have a group solely focused on protecting their main planet.
According to lore from what I can remember only the males go on hunts, while the females who are supposed to be bigger and stronger stay to protect the planet, and teach the young how to fight and basically run things. Everything a predator knows, was taught to them by their moms. The soldier class would be female predators
Yeah they have Predators even dedicated to hunting Predators that go rogue/dishonorable so infighting and dissidence occurs. There's no doubt they also have a dedicated military force whether for protection or conquest. These Militant and Police castes would be a big "Nope I ain't going to fuck with them" presence in the galaxy. The Hunters can already effectively fight Xenomorphs for fuck sake!
And since they're bred and trained for War instead of Hunting you know these guys are just decked out in full gear and a larger arsenal of weaponry. Maybe even a lesser code of honor then those of the hunters cause they're made purely for protecting Yautja Prime and won't shy away from using any means necessary to guarantee victory
I'd honestly like to know how predator society works on an economic level like do they all have regular jobs back on their home planet and hunting is like a pastime? Cause obviously they have scientists but what about mechanics? Do they have cooks? Is their commercialization? Do they have an entertainment industry? Are there even big cities? Or is the planet dotted with villages? So many questions
I'm surprised that Roanoke missed one big difference between this Yautja and previous ones, his mask lacks a respirator and he doesn't appear to need supplemental gases like the ones in the first two movies. The City Hunter in the second film was seen using an emergency respirator in one scene to catch his breath after losing his mask in the meat packing plant.
The one from Predator 2 is the only one with a resperator. And more likely it wasn't an actual resperator, but some sort of inhailer for medication due to his lungs being introduced to buckshot.
Going back to his previous video on the Yautja, it could be the respirator is just for the slightly higher o2 levels they're used to, so they can get by on Earth's slightly lower o2 levels, just get winded quicker than they normally would. But keep in mind that the Jungle Predator was in a humid jungle and the Feral Predator is in the Great Plains in pre-industrial times. Compare that to the City Hunter who's in the middle of Los Angeles, a highly urbanised area nestled within a valley facing cold water currents, resulting in lots of pollution from cars belching in the air with the geographic location of the city making all that smog stagnate in the air. Combined with trauma to his chest, he'll have a hard time breathing fresh air compared to the Feral and Jungle Predators
I didn't expect this so soon, Im so excited! They went above and beyond designing "Feral" as people have started calling him, the designer even mentioned his favorite feature being the inclusion of molars in this design that allude to its kind having more osteophagy in their diet. Bone eating basically, like some pigs, canines, hyenas and bearded vultures. It sounds so damn cool
_"The real villains of our story: The French"_ *Every Englishman nods knowingly.* _"I'm legally required to say that's a joke because some guy wrote a dissertation"_ *Every Englishman nods knowingly.*
There are several different clans within the predators all of whom have their own sub species and selective breeding traditions. This predator appears to be a feral predator (who are typically outcasts/criminals) that has been blooded as he has his clan's version of a plasma caster. This predator got himself killed due to the fact he got cocky and stopped respecting his prey.
My understanding was that the feral predator in this film was visiting earth for the first time so the events of this film were his first ever encounters with humans and other animals native to our world. So I think as far as intelligence goes, it could just be assumed that unlike the jungle hunter from the first film who clearly had experience battling human opponents prior to his final fight with Dutch, the feral predator had no experience dealing with humans and possibly little to no experience hunting higher thinking life forms. Something I think we take for granted about the Yautja race is that each one of them is not just a different monster/antagonist for the sake of the film, but a different person/individual. Every film involving the predator (minus The Predator) has endeavored to make their predator different not just in gear or appearance but in personality and the way they conducts themselves. The jungle hunter in Predator was more patient and cautious and took his time rather than Feral who acted on impulses and was more aggressive and clearly preferred a more hands on method. It’s likely that Feral’s death at Naru’s hands was a large part of what shaped the entire Yautja race’s outlook on humans as worthy, whether as prey or in some cases (if you’ve read the comics) allies and prodigies. There’s a lot to say about the predators as a whole but that could be a whole series of videos on its own, I really enjoyed the video and I look for ears to the next upload 😁
I've never seen a Predator movie but listening to other people talk about them, the amount of thought that the creators put into the worldbuilding behind the scenes is really fascinating to me. I thought the Yautja were just, y'know, movie monsters more or less. But the fact that they're all unique _characters,_ with thought put into _characterization_ is really cool, most franchises wouldn't put that kind of thought into it with a species that acts exclusively as antagonists and does not communicate. That's the first thing I've heard that's made me feel like hey, maybe I've been missing out by not watching these movies, lmao. I didn't realize the creators put so much consideration into making a monster that feels like a fully realized alien species.
@@cthulhupolar60 Usually most of the encounters were their first hunts of at least humans. I think even in Concrete Jungle its the same case for Scarface. Also for the City Hunter. Seems odd though with how he (Feral) fights compared to that of other predators who killed groups of people without issue. Even in the AVP game for the Xbox 360/PC it was its first hunt of humans and Xenos.
Where does AvP fall at? It showed that the Yautja were on earth during the Aztec civilization period , which implys its like a couple of thousand years before Predator 1.....
I loved Prey, and how it got back to basics and didn’t overthink things. I would have preferred a design more akin to the Jungle or City Hunter under the mask, but even this new take on it and where it came from as explained by the director makes sense. Prey more than makes up for AVP, Predators, and The Predator jibber-jabber.
I think Predator 2, Predators and Prey are all good sequels that expand on the lore without wrecking it. AVP 1 & 2 were less good than any of the above Predator films but still did a good job in expanding the lore. The only film i truly hated was The Predator 2019... which tried to rewrite the lore entirely and had no respect for the source material.
Predators was good, it felt pretty close to the first film in terms of atmosphere and did well expanding the lore. I'm not sure why it gets so much hate, probably because it was the first film to introduce a variation of The Yatjua Archetype.
@@euclidshield4932 I remember going to see Predators with my friends in highschool and being pleasantly surprised. AVP/AVPR left a bad taste in my mouth before that lol.
For real, the guy literally had to re use an arrow he already put on the predator, he rolled and pulled it out of his body and shot at him again like a total Chad Looks like being a badass runs in the family
It's hilarious to me when people say that Naru was OP in this movie and that all the men were useless...bruh what did you not see the licks those warriors were giving the Predator?? They did amazingly well considering by comparison Naru had the whole duration of the movie to figure the creature out, the other guys who got killed had to just fight and die, the fact they hurt it at all is impressive.
@@mrcheesemunch the whole point was Naru was a better hunter cos of her ability to adapt to situations and recognise solutions which is a theme thought the movie (the movie establishes you cant kill the predator head on). also this movie is clearly stylised realism, where the original predator is kind of quite intentionally unrealistic this is more like john wick, so people (including the predator himself) are doing things normal people couldn't but not so ridiculous that it takes you out the movie, unless you're being hypercritical.
I got the feeling in the film that the Predator in Prey was more of a hunting traditionalists rather than technologically inferior to the OG Predator. And as far as physiology goes, the Preydator could be from another planet entirely, like a colony or something, I mean their an interstellar species
My wife and I were theorizing that Predators would take only the weapons that were fit for the time. So melee weapons and a crossbow, all futuristic of course. We liked that the Predator would only use his hands when fighting with animals, but as soon as their opponent pulled a weapon they can now use a weapon.
It could just be from another part of Yautja prime. Compare a west African like Francis Ngannou who’s like 6’4” and 250 lbs with black skin, a wide nose and curly hair vs an Indonesian who’s 5’2” and 120 lbs with lighter skin, monolids and straight hair. Humans look very different.
I can't express how much I love his design, someone put so much damn effort into designing this thing, and included all those small things like darker skin-tone or longer dreads, it's amazing
I want a movie or show that focuses the perspective of the predator itself, the mannerisms, traditions etc. Getting blooded and SURVIVING continuously getting promoted, learning new tactics and adding to its arsenal
Yautja's, at least in some variations of the comics were a species that were dominated by a more technologically advanced one, basically they were slaves. They rebelled and won against their masters, hence the tech they have.
It makes sense that all their tech came from defeating their more advanced overlords since i can't imagine a species as savage and brutal as the Yautja figuring out space travel and energy weapons on their own. Although this ruins my headcanon of the Yautja developing FTL tech purely out of the need to find bigger and meaner prey since they got bored of the one that already existed on their planet.
Hearing you talk about rabbit starvation makes my nerdy heart happy lol. I tried to tell a guy who was talking about surviving on rabbits as his protien source about it. He told me to shut up, so I told him to enjoy his rabbits.
Considering the three subspecies of Yautja (the two mentioned here, and the Super Predators/Berserker Clan) I would love to hear your opinion of the evolutionary differences of the Super Predators compared to the two talked about here.
The Michael Vincent guy irrc is the one that designed the Feral for the movie. He had a very interesting explanation behind the characteristics and visual choices for the design and you got all of them spot on in this video
literally she only won against the predator because "women" not to say this isn't a good representation of a strong female character which Is true it is but her only winning because she's a women is true
I like the idea that there are different subspecies/breeds of Yautja, and it makes sense from the lore established in Predator Hunting Grounds that the Predators were originally enslaved by another alien race called the Amengi, who conquered the Predator's ancestors and used selective breeding and genetic engineering, which would explain different variations like the classic Predators, the Super Predators, and now the Feral Predators. Also, there were different species of humans coexisting in prehistoric times, (modern humans, neanderthals and denisovans) so it'd make sense that something similar would happen on the Predator home world
Regarding its intelligence shown in the final encounter, the Yaujta did get shot in the head at point blank range with a musket, which could explain why it fell for her traps etc.
I know this video is 5 months old, but I still love it! I'd like to offer a counter theory for the skull mask. Given that this Yautja is from a desert biome, it probably chose bone over metal, because of the excessive heat of its native biome. Wearing metal of any kind in the desert is a potentially hazardous experience, because the desert will heat up that metal to scalding temperatures. So, it would make sense that the mask that it wears on its head all the time be made of bone, which would not conduct heat so readily as solid metal does, would be chosen. This is also partially supported by the lesser amount of metal armor that this particular Predator wears (compared to the Jungle Yautja), and instead utilizes a shield.
I never thought they were less intelligent I just thought he was not as old or experienced as the Predator from the first movie and let his anger take hold of him.
Roanoke: throws all kinds of shade at the Predator for advance weapons and cloaking technology. Also Roanoke: "Guns are the best! They win every fight no matter what you're fighting!"
I love how predator movies are basically movies that would be the equivalent to a human decked out with guns and gear hunting a rabbit but the rabbit outplays them in the 1v1 and kills the human with the gun.
I wanted naru to die not cause i hate her or anything but because the predator is always shafted in movies they are in, the predator has every reason to win in most of its movies or even in avp from what we know of predator lore.
@@redjaygaming9757 I agree with the sentiment when it comes to Predator 2. Realistically it should have dusted Danny Glover lol. Predator is a bit more believable because it wiped out 2 different squads of elite soldiers before one of them pulled a fast one and managed to hurt it bad enough to nuke itself. Predators made sense as well because one of them had a bit of background info on the Predators from military Intel, and everybody but the most elite of killers died as well. "The Predator" and AVP/AVPR sucked so bad I wish they didn't exist lol. Naru's survival was heavily influenced by her brother. He did a lot of damage to the Predator before she finished it off with a few sneaky tricks and a lot of luck lol
Nothing about this movie except the the water in it was fuild it just stumbled around like a dumbass until a malnourished child killed it for that epic ass girl boss moment
Seemed to me like it was it's first solo hunt. Minimal/primitive armaments, he's more aggressive than others we've seen, could also have been a punishment hunt. My lore is old tho, so it could have all changed.
Honestly a world full of primitive people sounds like a cake walk for any normal predator so it should be a good challenge for any unblooded, too bad this one was too impulsive. Clearly from a bad blood clan.
@@bgill6623 It really leaned into it being her first hunt where something hunts her back, so it mirrored the Predator's hunt. Plus, no trophies on him, until he got the wolf skull.
I honestly hope they put this much thought into the design of the feral as you did breaking it down, I would hate the idea they just made a different Predator because you break this down so well it make alot of sense.
Hey Roanoke, thank you for giving the movie the fair shake. Way to many folks have shot it down and called it the worst without giving it a fair watch. I thought it was great and certainly a fine addition to the series.
The main thing I saw in their hunting differences was how they used their environment which further supports the biomes they live in Jungle Predators: Appear smarter because of the amount of cover, opportunities and overall brain teasers thanks to the trees that support them and fauna that pose new hunting challenges Desert: Open landscape where cliff sides would usually be the more prevalent stationary ambush locations where as they mainly fight on the ground with shields because cover's a luxury they simply didn't have in that environment and standing their ground being the main option they're accustomed to. The lack of hunting opportunity probably "devolved" their tactics to suit the desert wasteland. These are just some observations of seeing wildlife and survivalists interact with these environments for so long, of course so interpretation's always open to change. I'd still love to see the wildlife they contend with to see how these tactics are utilized in their home turf because there's certainly a reason for them to fear injury enough to cloak themselves instead of make-shift camo and stationary traps like Dutch used.
One thing that is interesting about this predator is how his head when wearing the skull helmet, looks very close to the shape of the prototype predator, the one that they scrapped at the very last moment in the original movie to make the design we know and love. I wonder if they wanted to show that this Predator is more primal than the previous ones, or just simply make a refrence to that original design or just make some connection that may come back in the future. Anyhow I didn't expect that this Predator is gonna actually have a different face structure, I really need to check this movie out (yes I didn't watch the whole video but because I want to watch this movie now, I will surely come back here later ;)
The predator in prey is most likely a young blood witch means he recently liked his first xenomorph and because the xenomorph is such a good hunter he probably is over estimating himself and it is possible that the rest of his clan is watching him hunt so he is trying to prove himself and collect more trophies and take more risks.
I feel like the reason the Feral lost is because it was a Youngblood (there ranking for a newly made warrior) and thus he was inexperienced. Cause he struggled more so then every other Predator across the movies. GREAT Vid Roan. You think you can do a Xenomorph video next or sometime soon? Or hell, covering the Mala'akak/Engineers from Prometheus and Alien: Covenant would also be really cool.
Hey Roan! A theory about Yautja cloaking tech inability to function in water has it that the cloak operates by bending light across surface area, in this case the Predator’s body. Water’s surface area is constantly in flux unless it’s stagnant, making light displace abstractly, pretty much overloading the cloak’s sensors and sending it to the Blue Screen Dimension until the software can get its shit together. Something similar happens any time the Predators are hit and wounded, to greater and lesser extent across the films as CGI tech has advanced. You see it most prominently in Prey, where the cloak collapses in small spots.
Amazing video as always. My only nitpick is a minor one, being in regards to the intelligence difference. I believe that has more to do with the class system than it does actual intelligence. Yautja move up the class system based on how skillful they are on hunts. I believe the Feral Predator is either an Un-blooded or Young Blood. Likewise, The Jungle Hunter is a Blooded Predator, which would require a greater degree of wisdom and hunting skill. That would also explain how the Jungle Hunter was able to hunt arguably more dangerous prey (given their weapons) and take much less damage than the Feral Predator, and figure out traps multiple times.
Exactly. This kid was clearly un-blooded, almost certainly his first proper hunt. He was taking trophies from everything, big or small. He clearly just wanted to be able to go back and go "Look at how many sweet fuckin skulls I got".
Through out the Lore of the Yautja, we've seen many sub species Variants so they Feral could be a lesser or more tribal like compared the rest of its race. This I found interesting and very fun because of bone based armor and the more even though advanced to us the simple tech it used was fun.
I really enjoyed this movie and it gives me hope for the future of this franchise, I had written it off and mourned it's death after seeing the 2018 predator: upgrade garbagefire. I especially enjoyed the portrayal of the predator itself even though i much prefer the original face design (or atleast practical effects). It didn't feel like a copy of the other predators we have seen before, it had it's own personality and style and almost seemed a little inexperienced and careless but it felt like it enjoyed every second of combat and every kill. I hope we get more predator movies throughout different times in history, the franchise seems made for that and not whatever pred:upgrade tried to do. Keep it simple and mostly self contained like this one and expand on the lore in more subtle ways, give each movie its own identity through setting, protagonist and the predator itself and i will be a happy man.
@Dd Dgd You mean _other_ than the fact it trashed on the lore of the franchise entirely and made it look like the guy who made it had no idea what the Yautja are and _made fun of_ everything that came before? Not to mention the horrible writing and Gods awful Autism plotline?
@Dd Dgd First of all I'm happy for anyone who liked it, really would have loved to like it aswell since Predator is one of my absolute favourite franchises. Obviously thinking somethings trash or not is always a personal taste thing when it comes to art but since you asked and I like to rant about this movie here are a few of my most disliked aspects of upgrade. Lorewise: I am not a fan of anything upgrade expands on the lore, i don't like the idea of predators collecting dna samples to improve their own species and to me it doesn't fit the behaviour of the predators as they are portrayed in any of the other movies. If you only want dna samples why hunt alone, take trophies and revere them in such a way, why strike fear in your prey and play with it, why throw away your weapons and fight your prey honorably, why respect the guy who killed one of your own and give him a parting gift, why use all these different weapons and seemingly enjoy conflict and combat. Why if you are such an advanced species, don't you use any other way of collecting dna samples rather than slaughtering your target as a lone hunter. It was well established that the predators kill for their own entertainment and cultural admiration of personal strength through pretty much all of their behaviour and no indication for alterior motives were ever given, doesn't mean their couldn't be one, but the motives upgrade now projects into every predator is so specific that it contradicts the other movies. I don't dislike the idea of a self upgrading alien species but it is such a fundamental thing that it's hard to make it make sense with a previously established alien race instead of building a new one from the ground up, which would have been fine. Also the idea of them wanting the autism to improve their species is the biggest cringe ever to me and is only justified by giving the autistic kid litteral superhuman abilities. He uses a piece of the fugitive-preds gear to control the upgrade-preds ship, understands an alien language based on who knows what kind of base communication and understands completely foreign alien technology. Characters & Dialougue: I am totally fine with jokes and alot of them and I even like it when there are sudden toneshifts but this movie managed to make me cringe at almost every serious attempt to make a joke. The characters talk endlessly about bullshit I personally don't want in my predator film at all, atleast when it's executed this way. To many characters that serve the same pourpose of beeing mildly amusing and disposable as fuck with almost everyone having 1 gimmick and nothing else. There are some of the legitamately stupidest lines I can imagine in this movie... example: "he is growing an EXOskelleton UNDER HIS SKIN" out of the mouth of the biologist chracter, I hope I don't have to explain the stupidity of this line. Logic: Why don't finish off the preddog after braindamaging it into an earth dog puppy copy? They just let it wander off. Also why do they look so much like the predators, we had much better looking dogs in predators. Why not FUCKING SHOOT YOUR GUN at the predator when he is escaping, every guard in the lab walks up to the predator, rifle pointed at it and not shooting so they can be punched by him. The movies always made it clear that predators are still very mortal vulnerable beeings and to take on a whole facility of soldiers they would need their gear and TACTICS. Seeing one effordlessly berserking through so many humans while almost naked just destroys that feeling and it feels like a marvel movie to me. Why is it possible to take control of the upgrade-preds ship with a part of the wristguard from fugitive-pred? it makes 0 sense that he wouldn't use that super useful feature himself while being chased by said ship. Why is the fugitive-pred killing people in the typical pred way, hanging them from a tree, right after landing even tough he is here to help humanity. Same goes for why does he immediatly attack everthing when waking up, try to communicate with them first there is no good reason for you to assume you would get out of there alive by combat. Presentation: Cgi looks terrible and even though i like pracical effects, here they look worse than ever before. The upgrade preds design is everything i hate about modern creature design, looks like a pred fucked doomsday or something. Also making it so comically large actually made it less intimidating and scary to me. It also moves in such a lame and unspecial looking way, could be any cgi monster, nothing predator-y about it. There is a specific way the predator moves and you can recognize it even when performed by a naked actor, the upgrade doesn't have to move the same way obviously but he just has nothing to characterize him movementwise (or otherwise) except for big and strong. The pred-iron-man suit is also one of the worst deigns i have ever seen. (Once again, I am very aware this is all personal taste and opinion and when I state something as fact in here it is a fact of how I feel and I do not need to be reminded of that nor should I have to explain to you that what I write is my opinion and I am aware of that but I want to prevent that type of response-comment, I have said what's on my mind and would love to hear what's on yours, knowig we do not need to agree on any of it for the exchange to be fun :)) This is mostly what came to mind at the moment, haven't watched that movie quite some time so I'm sure I missed alot but I thinks this goes some way to explain why I hate Predator:Upgrade and am banishing it from my headcanon entirely. I hope to hear some reasons for liking it from you in the case that you do like it, I had fun writing this and would have fun reading the opposite opinion honestly since I don't personally know anyone who likes this movie and I would love to know what you like about it. edit since i just saw one of your other comments: have not read any comics anf don't care about them, going off of my interpretation of the movies and nothing else (i even consider avp only loooosely in my headcanon)
@Dd Dgd What lore specifically? You mean like the lore shown where the Predators hunt for trophies exclusively (If you're gonna take a DNA sample, why melt _ALL_ the meat away?) And how they're shown to ignore any prey where there's no sport in it? If you're doing it for DNA samples, one person is as good as the next, and a Pregnant woman would actually be best because of the _stem cells_ currently within her body. And I don't really consider the whole Autism plotline an opinion when it's _literally offensive to people with the disease_ and is actually a massive misunderstanding of both Evolution and the disease.
@Dd Dgd what? You literally ignored everything the man said. He gave you a full blow explanation and you ignored it and changed the subject. Look, if you like shitty movies, just say it. Don’t try to start a flame war because you have trash taste lol
@Dd Dgd You seem incapable of understanding and responding to arguments, thanks for ignoring my answer to your question entirely. I hoped you could help me understand the opposite viewpoint but it seems like you're not interested in expressing your viewpoint in a fitting way. I wanted to see what makes people like the movie and in a way you gave me an answer, you just need a lack lf critical thought, an inability to formulate opinions and be immediatly so offended by opposing viewpoints that you go for personal attacks on people you don't even know. Thanks for that i will keep hating the absulute piece of shit movie you are trying to defend so ineffectively and know that there are no real reasons for me to do otherwise. Bye.
I don't think the tracking bolt or the bone makes them less advance, I think it comes down to specific preferences and customs each clan has. There are people nowadays who still go on hunts using muzzle loader rifles, not because that's their only option but simply because they like it that way. Edit: just got to the part where you say this pretty much exactly lol
I found it to be really silly. The "rope" turned her tomahawk into Mjolnir! You would think the stiff tree bark rope would mess with the trajectory of the axe. It wouldn't spin right to land properly. We see her struggling to hit anything with it, she ties the rope on, throws it a few times, the we cut to her with 5 rabbits... All the sudden she is accurate after adding more variables? I am confusion
@@themightycrixus1131 but that was probably 5 weeks of throwing with the rope time looped into 20 throws, but also ignoring the fact an alien predator comes down with cloaking and such
@@one8s7n the Predator is the science fiction part of the movie(where there is no explanation) the earth/human element should be grounded in reality. Otherwise why even shoot it on earth? Makes bo sense.
I really liked this movie! I loved how everything circled back, the medicine, the wet bow string breaking, the tactic for luring the cat/predator. I also love her adaptation as she learned the predators tactics. Like setting a trap in the trees because she learned how he moved around. Also I interpreted the scene after her brother died as a parallel/flashback to when her mom got the news that her father died. Because I too could not figure out why the tribe would already know her bro died.
My Favorite Yautjas: - Jungle Hunter from the 1st Predator - Feral Predator, a cool additional member of the species - Scar from AvP movie - Wolf from AvP Requiem, known to be the Elite despite that movie being bad - Scarface from Concrete Jungle - Dark from AvP 2010
Not a bad list at all! Dark’s a pretty underrated predator in the EU let’s see here…my favorites in no direct order! -lightstepper, a one armed predator that was the first ever shown defeating a predalien, albeit with a humans help. One of the only predators to actually survive for his whole hunt and story. - Falconer, the most fair of the super predators with a pretty cool drone at his command. - Feral predator cool behavior with his first go on earth, a good mix of agility strength, and savagery. - Abel from AVP fire and stone, a really skill full but also pretty funny with his bromance with a human and ongoing quest to kill engineers. - the fugitive predator, another one armed predator that got caught by the government. Really creepy with his Red eyes and super long organic claws, he ends up taking down a whole advanced security team, but still ends up honorably blowing himself up after getting his gauntlet back.
I watched it too, thought I was one of a few people I know to actually notice the difference in appearance between this predator and the last ones. Glad to have you confirm it for us bro. Love the videos and listening to you explain things from a scientific standpoint. Hope everything is going good in your life bro.
While this predator probably is young, it most definitely is not a adolescent or unblooded since predators are not allowed to showcase or wear throphies they did not hunt themselves so its mask would mean it had atleast done its first hunt. Its clan also seems to be borderline badbloods with how loosely it adheres to their honor code, the plasma disks it used and in the way those were used would instantly get it marked off as a bad blood. Then there is also the bitching out when he was getting beat by Naru's brother, this would also get it in trouble with their honor code. Besides that the armor and weaponry seem more cultural with the shield and its combispear that turns into a sword and club and that would also make sense why they use no plasmacasters.
An actually good modern Predator movie!? Amazing! Video suggestion: Do the physiology of the Lizards from Rain World and maybe also the Slugcats in a separate video
I am suprised that the video doesnt include the such referred super predators more throughtly as they were the first yautja subspecies that has officially revealed also Predators movie is underrated severely Honestly yautja evolving into subspecies and more varied types makes absolute sense as we supposed to talk about an interstellar species with extreme tech and able to colonize wide variety of planets with many biomes! They should represent some physical changes as we talk about even under the best circumstances martian colonist would definitely look very very differentiated or taller than earthborne humans
Even then, I think we’ve seen some ethnic variations before. In the AVPs, members of that clan had really long (quills? Spikes?). Another had a ridged head, rather than smooth. That’s all I remember right now though
They even hunt differently just like earth animals, the jungle ones like in the first predator stricks at the right and perfect moment stalking the prey and if they get caught they'll try to still get to perfect moment to strike, circling a lot more. In the deserts being super fast, bigger and deal out more damage, like our feral friend in Prey, all the alphas we've seen also seem to be really scavangery just like most the desert animals on earth. Kinda cool
I'm actually at a crossroad with this movie. It has its good moments, but there were questionable moments too. It's supposed to be set in the same world as the first Predator movie. Yes, this Predator was vastly different than the one Dutch fought given the time difference. I wished the fight scenes were more believable. Dutch looked to be 200+lbs, was in a military special force, and probably 6ft. Hits he took from the Predator he fought knocked him down and hurt him badly. Hits Naru took or blocked from her Predator didn't leave her any serious injuries. She's far smaller than Dutch...
@@RebelTvShka yeah but Feral also killed a fucking grizzly bear with its bare hands and lifted it up over it's head. If Feral hits a human they are going to go flying and be injured very badly, especially if it's a woman cause their bones aren't as dense as a man's
It's all part of that "strong independent woman" thing that Hollywood is pushing. Now don't get me wrong as Naru makes plenty of mistakes so she at least isn't a Mary Sue
@@tiredman99 it's because she's the protagonist. plot armor is very common [it's an action movie, it has to be.] just look at any action or heist movie from the past 20 years, same shit.
@@jar-of-bees very true but I don't think it's ever been that thick before. As Dutch got completely tossed by his predator as did Danny Glover's character
One thought that I had a few days after watching the movie was that this yautja's mask lacks the air part of the more known one. My understanding was that the Yautja require a higher volume of oxygen in their air, so perhaps the not smart moves that the "ferral" yautja made, was because it was suffering from oxygen deprivation, like a human being at a really high altitude.
Thanks for watching guys! I hope y'all enjoy! Also the movie was pretty good, you should go see it lol
Happy Friday!
Gotta love anythin' Predator 🥳
Pretty good movie, or Ocelot “Pretty Good”?
I know I’ll enjoy it already
Please talk about the utroms and krangs from the tmnt unerverse s
honestly a series based around predators vs warriors from throughout human history would be great, templar knights, samurai, hashashins, even just gangsters or yakuza, there would be so many cool possibilities.
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I always thought that one in either world war would be great, specially if 1- it made both sides fight together (not the SS tho fuck them) and 2-the predator had some cool coat made from some alien skin/fur for the cold climate
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 yeah that’d be cool but the whole time I’d be thinking, “oh so you just lost contact with that entire company right after they entered the forest? Bomb that bitch into oblivion” and I feel like they would’ve lmao. When the pred would be like making trophies and shit here comes an artillery strike a mile long 😂 but yeah some shit like the Ardennes with its fog would be awesome
@@YorkusPorkus757 now you bring up an interesting idea, this predator is hunting soldiers in a warzone, their prey has literal artillery, how would he deal with it ?
Now that's would be awesome to see executed well
Specially if we spent half of the movie in this with both sides thinking of sabotage and that the enemy is being extremely cruel killing their men and skinning them, untill the predator is made know to them
And they all have to team up against him
Yeah one set on a jungle island in WW2 in the Pacific against imperial Japanese troops and/or US marines would be spot on maybe too close to the first predator but I'm sure with good writer and director you could flesh it out into its own. I think historically there was one island on the Pacific that the Americans pushed the Japanese to flee to the other side of the island crossing a swamp and in a span of two days they said a hundred Japanese soldiers were killed by salt water crocodiles.
I believe that this Predator was an adolescent who may have even been on his first hunt, that’s why he takes a snake and wolf skull, things that any more veteran Pred wouldn’t care for, on top of that he was very satisfied with the kill of a bear, something that would not compare to say a Xenomorph, so he is also not even blooded yet
Its implied that this is the first ever Predator to arrive to Earth(Since Avp is not really canon) so he would take trophies regardless but yeah he may have been Unblooded
Plus the behaviour and how easily this Predator gives in to anger, I'm definitely getting youngblood vibes. In past movies very rarely did a predator get so worked up and overconfident in battle.
While I do agree that this predator and possibly many of the predators we've seen in the other movies such as Predator 1 and 2 are young blood it's been confirmed that this is a different variant of predator altogether, similar to the bad bloods in Predators with how they were a larger and stronger variant than the normal one we're used to, but ultimately not a huge difference as the normal predator was still able to put up a good fight against the bad blood despite having damaged gear and being hung up like that for really who knows how long
@@TheJonkler1 The director cleared this up and said it was just this particular predators first time on earth
@Nick F. Predator 2 is Canon, it did show a xenomorph skull in the trophy room. Therefore predators have hunted xenos
It was an amazing movie, the "fodder" characters actually did a number on it and not just outright die, they were warriors and hunters and I like how you can see them go toe to toe with the pred.
I had the impression that Feral was a adolescent. He observed predator and prey interactions, took a hit in nearly every fight, has less advanced tech though that could be a clan cultural vs a rank in society thing, he's extremely flashy and shows off while he hunts but only against the massive group of Frenchmen(almost like he's showing off like the Youngbloods in AvP), and he isn't as reserved or I would even suggest experienced as Jungle Hunter. Becoming so enraged he fell for Naru's trap and shot in a rage at her brother even after seeing the masks guided system sending the spears off course. I thought his appearance was also due to his age but a subspecies makes more sense.
I think the director said that this predator looks different because he's from a different hemisphere of their homeworld; more of a desert environment. Therefore the morphological differences to previous predators
@@jimfleece2880 that's also what Raonoke said lol nice he nailed it then
Wonder if the director said anything of the age or rank of Feral..
@@magisterapophis8714 true, I wrote that comment before I saw the vid. And ya It would be nice to know the lore of that particular predator but Its fun to speculate as well
Yes and no. It's true it's young blood and it was actually it's first hunt to prove himself to other, older Yautja. However as it was mentioned, it's just another species or subspecies of Yautja, making it second known another variant other than Super Predators.
It seems that Yautja can be classified in 2 main species: "Classic Predators" and "Super Predators". What we've seen in Prey is more in "classic" aligment, however due to different environment of it's ancestors, it looks different from other Yautja. The best analogy is us and how different native Europeans look to native Africans. The environment shaped us differently, however we are still the same species. We can even go futher and notice that each clan can have it's own distinct set of characteristics which make them even more apart from each other, similar to how there are minor differences between certain groups of the same race. For instance just compare Yautja from one "Jungle clan" and then Yautja from "City hunters". They are the same species, and even subspiecies/race, but still look distinct from one another.
Weapon wise it’s a almost 300 year difference in technology
When the predator steps on the guy is my favorite part. He screams, the predator screams like he scared the hell out of it then wastes him.
The one thing about Predator vs Alien that I loved was that Predators using the Xenomorphs as basically right of passage type stuff sets some ground rules on what kind of world the Yautja live on. It was easy to tell that this was the Feral’s first hunt.
Or at least its 1st Hunt as a Blooded or a Young Adult which is hilariously means that Naru is around the same age as the Feral Predator at least in Predator years.
It's likely an early hunt for them, but not their first. The bone in their helmet was from a previous hunt
They really need it to be set in the future like the games did
this man is was tripping, Predator vs Alien wasn't the best. But better than this last WOMAN "learning" to become hunter.... I felt like predators was better than this as well. This predator movie was mid or below.
@@bobbythorton7693 Prey = AvP
We don't talked about AvP 2 or The Predator, those doesn't exist
Also what's wrong with that? Kinda similar to AvP
The Feral's lack of armor, advance tech, and experience when hunting may actually be the result of it simply being a young blooded predator who hasn't proven itself yet.
Not necessarily a cultural difference between the Jungle Hunters and the Ferals.
The city hunter in predator 2 canonically was also a young blood trying to prove itself and it had all the gear the first jungle predator had (who is confirmed to be a blooded hunter) so I think the evidence of predator 2 points to this yautja being a subspecies or separate clan plus this yautja looks considerably bigger than the classic jungle hunter
@@Brodes235 So I wonder if some clans only allow a Yaujta to become fully blooded when they're able to hunt and kill a Xenomorph while others just need to kill something capable of being a threat
@@brandonfj5811 I think that is the case as it was confirmed the city hunter had his own separate clan as well
my personal headcannon is that it's an old predator that's wanting to have a worthy death, it had access to all the old tech they would have had in AVP but wanting a true challenge and worthy death is why it brought more primitive gear, less armour, and weaker weapons. kind of a to valhalla quest.
@@tylerwatson8722
Aight, that's a good headcanon.
The only issue I have with is that logically speaking couldn't he rather go for the strongest know prey instead of weak humans?
The actors that played Naru and Tabe absolutely crushed their roles. That cheer Naru belts out after she kills the predator was awesome I was just as excited
Yeah, especially how 2022 is their vocabulary and accent...
Narus perfectly trimmed and thinned eyebrows, acne and scar free skin fits so well with setting ! She is a primal Mary Sue, nothing more. People like you are either blind and lack attention span or they do really lack ability to think for themselves and repeat what mouthpiece "journalists" spew.
Total cringe
Hell her war call!! The best part!
Her character arc could've been done in a better way but I agree, that victory cheer was infectious and deserved as she finally avenged her brother and to a lesser extant she also proved herself as a hunter.
Though I feel the lesson should be to not let pride control you cause I feel she and the predator was in parallel like he was a reflection of her toxic pride and resentment of her family.
Like a mindset that makes you think you can take down a bear with an arrow is exactly the type of recklessness the Predator showed, hunting for sake of hunting and not survival or self improvement to treat your prey as living and worth respecting.
@@frankcastle7082no
Im under the belief that the "lower level" of the tech used by the Feral Predator was likely a sign of them selecting levels of gear and weapons that are more appropriate for the setting they are hunting. At this point, humans are very primative, with firearms being a pretty new thing to exist (at least in the American continents). So it human prey likely weren't seen as dangerous enough to warrant the plasma caster and more serious weapons they normally are seen using in other Predator movies. This is to help 'scale' the hunt difficulty down or up for the sake of honor and enjoyment. Similar to the example you used about a High level player in an MMO killing low level players, that would be a dishonorable hunt and no enjoyment could be had, if the Hunt is too easy, so they help to offset that with 'lower level' gear.
This is my impression as well.
They have their particular Code, and seem to adhere very strictly to it.
There is also this common explanation (not sure if its canon), that Yautja have a ranking system, similar to belts in a martial arts academy.
The more experienced you are, the more dangerous game you will be allowed to hunt, which in turn grants you access to more formidable weapons.
With the ultimate test being the Xenomorph.
Feral pred used a load out that was appropriate to his hunting grounds.
Razor frizbees, plasma casters and the rapid fire dart slinging spear... that stuff would have been overkill in 1719 Americas. And likely considered as dishonorable / unfair play.
Also, he did a lot of bumbling mistakes, suggesting that he was a rookie.
Dude was pretty wicked with those swords though, and knew his way around a tomahawk. I give him that.
Also, that collapsible shield was the bomb.
My take too, although I think the dart weapon he used was probably more deadly than the plasma weapon in some ways. I.e., I think the plasma caster essentially shoots bolts in straight lines while the dart weapon seem to change trajectory and home in on the target! (Although that literally backfired at the end.) I agree it was probably chosen to closer match the tech of the time, rather than being a species trait (the plasma caster has a faster rate of fire for sure- swings and roundabouts) even if they're meant to be a different species/subspecies.
@@mardroidmk1393Late but it could also just be a preference thing, in videogames alot of people have their own preferred weapon loadout(s), perhaps some Predators enjoy using more "primitive" weaponry (primitive by their standards ofc) because in their mind: it's a reliable and time tested design/a handicap=more honourable hunt or showing off their skills.
To coincide with the idea it's a preference thing, maybe some Preds use certain gear so long they grow attached or sentimental to the equipment, like a hunter keeping the same Knife they used to skin their very first target.
furthermore in the case of prolonged use perhaps some Preds are more confortable with their weapon of choice and have grown accustomed to that weapons specific capabilities and design that they're more proficent with that weapon compared to others.
@@WavemaninaweI have also read that "normal" predators get weapons based on their prestige or rank.
While also taking weapons based on prey. You aren't going to go hunting squirrels with a 8 guage shotgun with shells afterall.
Remember in Alien versus predator how they B lined it to the plasma casters? They didn't come with them! They needed to go collect it to equip them against a tough foe.
Always makes me laugh how they are basically player characters in an RPG. Unlocking better loot.
Only reason why I think this one was a noob is due to how it acted in a movie. It got caught off guard multiple times. Got caught off guard by a charging horse! Then wounded and killed itsself. It lost its cool.
I do like how it basically fires arrows, instead of plasma, and thought the shield was a nice addition.
There is, of course, always another possibility as to why it seemed to make more rash decisions when angered compared to the jungle one.
This one could just be a dumbass by its own species’ standards
Well.. it doesn't need to always have a complex answer, right? Hehehej I agree that it could the case xD
@@joaoramosfilho8621 true, but gotta love over complicated simple shit, learn tons of stuff from it
@@narrowstone5363 hahahaha that's true xD I, myself, posted a more overly complicated comment on this video about some predator lore hehehe
It probably wreck something on the spaceship so they just "Alright buddy, get out of my spaceship" hence why the spaceship just leave.
@@usernamealreadytaken9330 lol, the ship just abandons the Predator in this? Probably were told “ok find him some planet with some nice and easy prey, pick him up in a couple of weeks. If he lives, great, a bunch of trophies, if he dies, well, just proof that he really is a failure, it’s bound to be his own fault”
Imagine being one of the people who designed these guys watching someone appreciate their work like this
I live for the day people would appreciate the work I put into designing races, cultures, and characters lol
@@crowdemon_archives fr. I c u bro
Michael Vincent Eppinette #michaelvincentart always appreciates his fans!
They're too busy jacking off after all the pandering they hoped would solve their thirst issue.
@@mikeeppinette4291 is that a self promote?
My absolute favourite moment is when it fights the bear. Like it was done so well. Especially how the Bear actually appeared to win at one point. Bears are incredibly powerful and would definitely go the knuckle with a predator on lower gear. Best part of the movie. Most realistic predator so far
Realistic??!!?? It got defeated by a teenage girl, what a complete farce. Alien vs predator was better than this and that was a ridiculous flop
I’m a comic a mother bear uses a predator as a chew toy
@@timhoward846she used her brain not her muscles. She was shown time and again that she can’t outmuscle most of her oppositions so she had to formulate a plan. And it worked. What’s so wrong with that?
@@kickass12121 because woman according to that guy.
@@kickass12121yeah she has female power! Remember army people couldn't do it be she could pretty easily to.
Another observation I had was that from what I remember the jungle hunters needed their masks to comfortably breathe earth’s atmosphere like for them they felt they were constantly out of breath but the “feral” predator’s mask doesn’t even cover its mouth so this Yautja can breathe our air perfectly well
Did that happen in the first film? I know in the second one the Predator was using a breathing mask every so often when he lost his normal mask but I put that down to it having an aversion to city pollution
@@antonironstag5085 well you have to keep in mind the original predator only had his mask off for at most 15 minutes probably less but the pollution probably is a factor as well
@@Brodes235 Yeah, way easier to breathe fresh air in a jungle than in a city. Especially in the 80-90's.
@@marciliojunior9599 true
@@marciliojunior9599 I kinda got the idea that he was just having a hard time breathing after taking buckshot through the lungs
I just like to think this predator is more of brawler of his personal choice because of his fight against the bear and the French and I personally love that. I like to believe that each predator have different hunting style.
Well _I_ like the fact that its hunting style basically boils down to walking plainly out of cover and yelling *"FIGHT ME YOU BIG ASSHOLE!"*
Well, personally, I like when my movies at least make sense.
Like try telling me that a kitten is going to maul and kill a Rottweiler...with a shoulder cannon, after drinking a gallon of blood.
@@PricelessBinkey1337 pretty funny ha ha sarcasm you got there
You are correct, the Yautja hunt according to their own tastes. There are rules they all have to follow tho. If you can believe it, their home planet crime rate is nearly nonexistent
yeah, an advanced species like that would evidently have individuality just like us, right? so, like some people like doing sort-of violent stuff in the way of boxing or other martial arts, other people like hunting. and then there's also people that enjoy fishing as a... semi-hunting/violence-like activity. there's probably some Yautja (unsure if i wrote it correctly) that enjoy just capturing creatures that are pretty slippery, evasive, or clever, then just release it after they've had their fun.
I actually really liked what they did with the mud scene. It was just a sly little nod towards the old movies, without leaning on it as a nostalgia plot point like a lot of reboots and remakes do these days. For the fans of the originals, it made us all get the member-berries, but it didn't force us to think about it too much, and instead used a whole new plot device which was established really well early on and showed in use when it was needed by Naru against the predator.
I also like when Tabe says the most famous line. "if it bleeds, we can kill it." dropped in very organically.
Keep in mind, Feral did get smacked in the head, shot point blank in the back of the head and had also been damaged elsewhere. I like to think he got angry and just wasn't thinking straight due to concussion
I agree with this. I thought it was pretty clear, especially on my 2nd watch, that the Predator was not thinking clearly in the final fight. He was either too angry or too hurt to be as effective as he normally would be. At that point, he had been stabbed in the foot, shot with numerous arrows and bullets, stabbed through the chest with his own spear, clubbed in the head from horseback, and shot directly in the back of the head from point-blank range, all within the last day or so.
He was WAY more aggressive in the last fight with Naru, losing any sense of tactical skill and just using brute force.
Lucky it wasn't a modern firearm or something with more kick. That bullet would then pen his thick head. Game over.
but Naru falling out of a tree and getting a concussion, then stepping into a bear trap didnt effect her right?
@@Jourmand1r not nearly as much trauma as the yautja sustained. concussions are on a spectrum as well. she couldve had a very minor concussion and it was like it was a 30 foot drop onto concrete or sumn. just a tree in the tall grass
@@s.s.s.witchy757 i bet you're on the syndrome
The technological differences are due to culture, not species or the like. This predator is an unblooded. He's trained, but has never gone on a hunt that could actually pose a threat to him. Only once he's risen in the ranks does he gain access to the more advanced elements like plasma casters
We also see this in his personality. He's a cocky punk who turns on his cloaking device the moment shit gets real.
Also he doesn’t have a self destruct bomb which makes me thing the technology he has isn’t considered worth destroying if he gets fatally wounded
This was hundred of years ago maybe those hunting weapons haven't been invented yet?
@@minutemadejuiceboxes9991 That had to be armed manually. It doesn't go off on its own
@@chevydrum82 Their tech has always been depicted as pretty stagnant. Plus the plasma bouncing Betty's kinda imply they have the tech
Its more due to them adusting their armament for the hunt. Jungle hunter had armor and a plasma caster, but he was going up against grunts with full auto weapons. Feral is expected to take on most things mostly bare handed since they don't have much in the way of weapons
I just watched Prey and (being a predator fan) I absolutely loved it. The trappers shooting then scrambling to reload was hilarious. After seeing all of the slaughtered buffaloes I couldn’t help but appreciate the fight against the predator and the men.
Hollywood doesn't know when to stop. This movie n anything after part 2 was complete 💩
I believe a crew member (can't remember what role they were) tweeted several bits of information regarding 'Feral', the Predator seen in Prey.
He confirmed that 'Feral' was from a more arid region of the Yautja homeworld hence the drastic difference in his appearance compared to the previous appearances who were from the more tropical regions or whatever the Yautja equivalent of that would be!
Edit: I was informed that it was the original concept artist!
It was the original concept art drawer! he explained soo much about it essentially confirming this predator is from an arid desert environment and likely another planet colonized by yautja
their idea of feral uses traps and technology more efficiently than the previous iterations of a predator is honestly scary, the only part about the feral predator that is feral is its motive since most predators are hunting for a higher cause like collecting spines for dna, testing technology, or appointing authority, this one just hunts for the sake of the hunt, it simply enjoys what its made for
@@traphimawari7760 the twitter account of this predators designed also hinted and once again confirmed that yautja see the world more akin to modern snakes ie heat based patterns also this specimen born and raised on a more arid desert enviroment
Additionally he also referenced something about their clans culture uses the skulls and remains of their prey
@@thedoruk6324 thank you! I had an idea it was someone in the art or cinematography departments but couldn't remember what exactly!
@@vDullahan very welcome I am glad to be informative
Indeed it was the person that draw the original concept design for the feral
I’m glad Roanoke noticed that this predator seems to be way more emotional in his reactions to getting interrupted or attacked and even seem annoyed at certain points!
In the other movies, the predators were never really "feral" so we very rarely saw them take damage- but a savage predator getting beat up more because it doesn't do stealthy sniping too well is a nice detail.
I'd love to see another Predator movie set during a specific time period. Like imagine one about a crew of Vikings landing on a foreign shore expecting an easy raid, only to stumble into a Predators hunt.
That's a pretty good idea, plus the fact they arrived on a ship would give them a destination to work their way back to after encountering the predator. Like the helicopter in the original.
GET TO THE BOAT
Look into Predator: Hunting grounds. There is a Valkyrie and Viking Predator
Also imagine a samurai/shinobi fighting a predator in warring states period, thinking it's an Oni.
They're seriously missing out on potential with putting a predator in different time periods with different "classes" of warriors or fighters. Stuff would be so sick man
@@bighex5340 there is a Samurai Predator in Predator: Hunting Grounds
There is a fan made film called predator dark ages, where it hunts knights and soldiers during the crusades. It's pretty decent for a fan made film
Love the aspect of historical settings in horror/monster films more than modern day, leaves so much territory for great films and games like prey
Although the reverse is also true, I wish people would finally use a future setting for Alien Vs Predator so the humans can hold their own enough
@@kennethsatria6607 like the old Alien vs predator game where you could play as all 3 races? I agree i just want more films like this and it being good and not cheesy
@@kennethsatria6607 They did do that. It's called the Alien vs Predator official crossover comic. Dark Horse has been publishing them for years now.
Historical? They butcher native history. They don't wear war paint and feathers 24/7. A native American woman should know that a hatchet will not kill an elk so all she would do is wound the elk. They wouldn't hurt an animal like that just to practice throwing a fucking hatchet. The hatchet throwing with a rope is impossible especially for a 95 lbs teen. There is nothing historically accurate at all. Some orange flower is make all you lr boo boos go away instantly. It is far from accurate
Why does the predator save her? It makes no sense. The predators are not good Samaritans. He keeps kicking things that are trying to attack other things. Like why does he care if animals have to eat. Also the 95 lbs superhuman points her bow at the predator which by predator logic should make her a combatant so he should go after her. But bc she doesn't shoot he doesn't attack her. So then by that logic everyone who stop attacking and runs away should be fine. But not he attack the dudes who try and get away but not the super woman.
I actually enjoy seeing that as the Yautja are explored more in each movie (The Predator being the horrific exception)
All Yautja all had some differences, all different personalities, all different ways of hunting, and possibly cultures.
In many ways they very much are like humans. Given that they only hunt prey for sport, it means that overall they are not hostile like your traditional aliens.
Yautja clearly have morals, ethics, and if encountering another sentient being that manages to kill one of their own will at times approach the victor and offer them maybe a trophy. They even look down on member that breaks with traditional hunting to the point they are willing to hunt them down if possible..
Lets hope they create more time-period movies with the Yautja. So many opportunities and so many ways they could have influenced myths and legends through human history.
A feral Yautja in ancient Egypt or the Middle East or Persia or the African Kingdoms would be awesome as technically he would fit the environment which would be considered closer to his biome. Plus seeing one of them wearing or adopting those ancient empires gear and clothing or styles would be interesting.
Or another one back in the Jungles like during the era of the Aztec (obviously)
Or the Mayans, Imagine Mayan or Aztec Warriors with Obsidian weaponry trying to take town a Yautja, then a later movie seeing a Yautja carrying Aztec or Mayan inspired weaponry. That would be terrifying. Would kinda fit them however.
Just how to make that one work without someone screaming a re-hash of avp ......
I reckon a movie about a predator hunting a squad of Roman legionaries or even Spartan warriors would be good
@@hoffjdod3276 That would be amazing!
I think a movie with the predators as the main characters would be cool when they talk to eachother we'd have to read subtitles and follow a young blood predator going on their first hunt it'd be cool to see their culture
We've seen plenty of the younguns. Apart from AvP2, and possibly The Predator, they've all been young, or fairly young in terms of Yautja lifespan. I'd like to see something with one of the vets. One similar to Wolf (from AvP2) putting a stop to a lot of the nonsense that this second species (and the one from The Predator) have been up to. Sort of like a game warden, turned up to 11. An executioner, leanign away from the general "the old Yautja style needs to die" mentality that modern film makers seem to have. That's really the point of the movies Predators and The Predator: for the filmmakers to say "ours are better". Really knock that mentality down a few pegs.
I’m pretty sure the Yautja had some mild differences in appearance depending which clan/faction they originated from on Yautja Prime, like how we have different races of human. I’m pretty sure the Hish-qu-Ten are even considered a distinct ethnic group amongst the Yautja, and considering there’s roughly 20 known clans (including bad bloods,) I personally believe that this Predator could come from a different Yautja clan/faction we haven’t seen yet, potentially even an extinct clan by the time of Predator (1987) rather then some kind of actual morphological change.
There are 20 clans??? Holy shit that's awesome!
@@nicoleb695 almost, I think there’s 18 or 19 to be more specific. That’s including the bad bloods like I said.
@@AlexPeace246 But the Bad Bloods are not technically a clan they are rogue yautja from what i recall but correct me if im not right
I'm kinda glad they explore different clans, it would be fun to see more bad bloods too
@@colohaust5332 You are correct, but the bad bloods have their own “clans” just without any specific or distinguished role since they are made of rogue Yautja from any other clan. Pretty sure there’s 4 bad blood “clans” but that’s also why I specifically said “including bad bloods” in brackets.
As a huge yautja fan, comics, novels, movies, art, etc. … it’s literally criminal how UNDERUSED the predator is in film / tv
I really liked the idea of showing downgraded or more younger version of the predator species that didn't have their more technological weapons even while still having far more advanced weapons
My theory is that maybe since the predators were so advanced, they probably set up colonies on different planets. After several generations maybe some of the predators may have adapted to different circumstances on different planets more, resulting in their different appearances.
Yeah makes sense we know they've been exploring space for a long time the whole of human history seemingly. Though it does make sense there would be different kinds on their homeworld too. Whether part of the same species or not as culture and climate alone can alter a people.
My guess is Predators the movie was set in one of those colonies dedicated to hunting. Earth was seemingly a colony in the AVP world building.
@@flamesofchaos13 Earth wasn't a Yautja colony in the AVP movies. But rather, a favorable hunting grounds. This is why they want to avoid Xenomorph outbreaks. To avoid spoiling the hunting grounds.
That and/or genetic differences
Hey Roanoke, I think you misunderstood the scene where the mother is crying. I believe it was a scene from Naru's memory where her brother went on a hunt and didn't come back with their father (as he is never shown or present) and is supposed to mirror the ending scene of the movie.
The way the scene plays out makes it seem more like she is remembering her brother after his passing.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that would make sense
@@RoanokeGaming yeah, it was a bit confusing for me at first too because I don't actually remember seeing Naru in that memory and they could have made it a bit more clear.
Thanks for all the uploads dude, love the content 👽👍🏻
I’d love to see you do a video on the Norwegian movie ‘Troll Hunter’. Very unknown but cool movie which delves into their anatomy and the science behind it in the movie too and would love to see you explain them even more!
I'll check it out!
Agree. Its a very good movie
Such a good one, loved that movie when I was younger.
It’s a good one for sure
One of my favorite movies. It's pretty good... except for the subs. The sub sucks and the translations are pretty terrible.
I bought an alien vs predator style book a long time ago called “Prey” that was actually really friggin good. The hunting party was arrange with several young warriors and one or two older who were there as teachers and supervisors. It seemed to imply that the younger of the species was much more prone to hormone fueled stupidity and that their social hierarchy was built around that. Anyway, still have the book, would have made one hell of a movie, by Steve perry
"hormone fueled stupidity"
Young blood:
"We do be like that, tho"
I read that book. It's great. All the aliens, predators, aliens vs predator novels are great! Conan the barbarian novels are good too!
There are several good predator novels another one is Concrete Jungle it follows Dutch brother and Steve Perry wrote several good AVP novels
What you have is basically the bible of Predator lore. Dachande is pretty much the gold standard for any Yautja.
Loved this movie as it definitely re-delivered home that the Yaujta are brutal and terrifying creatures that cannot be bested by strength alone. The fact that it nearly kills everything in a single hit is chef’s kiss. Pretty sure it had a concussion towards the end though. Got hit in the head numerous times and shot point blank.
One thing you can tell about his predator is that he's not blooded, you can gleam this because he has no skulls and no plasma caster. also through the movie you can tell he's learning and applying what he's learned from previous hunts. IMO i think this isn't so much a different species so much as a different iteration of the Yautja, but i guess we'll see in later movies.
It could sensesesne for the yautjas to change their approach systematially, when loads of their youngblood went on and die on backwater planets leaving behind tech and wasting potentially good lads to inexperience. Sending a blooded one with them makes sense.
This could be one of the few last clans still doing shit the old ways, aka sending the unblooded alone on their own.
Friendly reminder: Mountain Lion attacks on Humans are rare and they are likely to be scared of you and run away or just try to avoid you altogether - unless they're mating or you are squatting/lying down looking like PREY... Let's be honest though, nobody likes having someone walking in on them when they're playing the game of procreation. Also, if you hear what sounds like a woman screaming in the woods - think twice before approaching as that might just be a cougar and NOT the type you meet at Applebee's!
reminds me of the meme i saw "man kidnapped by couger and forced to be its husband in the woods"
Depending on the cougar I might be open to letting a cougar catnap me and have me as her kitty toy. Just saying.
@@YojiKenjiUndai im talking the actual animal
I love cougars
Um no a mountain lion doesn't fear humans Especially lone humans try again don't give me that national park ranger horse 💩 😂 the real only saving grace is if the mountain lion thinks it can take you down easily
I know you mentioned and some others think the predator just decided to kill that french translator even though he came across dead just because, but i’m pretty sure he accidentally stepped on his severed leg and he screamed so he realized he wasn’t actually dead and unalived him
Something I remember from one of the Aliens vs Predator comics was a segment showing a young predator fighting a bunch of xenomorphs. It talked about how it’s fast and strong, but died because it’s movements weren’t calculated. I think that’s what’s going on with this one, why it’s taking so many hits and showing off so much
That’s what I’ve noticed about some Yautja, when they are reckless and cocky they are usually Unblooded or Young Bloods, while the Blooded/experienced Yautja (like Jungle Hunter) plan out an attack
Imagine the Predator’s soldier class. We’ve seen the hunters and what not, but I imagine they’d also have a group solely focused on protecting their main planet.
According to lore from what I can remember only the males go on hunts, while the females who are supposed to be bigger and stronger stay to protect the planet, and teach the young how to fight and basically run things. Everything a predator knows, was taught to them by their moms. The soldier class would be female predators
Yeah they have Predators even dedicated to hunting Predators that go rogue/dishonorable so infighting and dissidence occurs. There's no doubt they also have a dedicated military force whether for protection or conquest. These Militant and Police castes would be a big "Nope I ain't going to fuck with them" presence in the galaxy. The Hunters can already effectively fight Xenomorphs for fuck sake!
And since they're bred and trained for War instead of Hunting you know these guys are just decked out in full gear and a larger arsenal of weaponry. Maybe even a lesser code of honor then those of the hunters cause they're made purely for protecting Yautja Prime and won't shy away from using any means necessary to guarantee victory
@@KaijuSlayer54 They're probably why they have those wrist bombs.
I'd honestly like to know how predator society works on an economic level like do they all have regular jobs back on their home planet and hunting is like a pastime? Cause obviously they have scientists but what about mechanics? Do they have cooks? Is their commercialization? Do they have an entertainment industry? Are there even big cities? Or is the planet dotted with villages? So many questions
I'm surprised that Roanoke missed one big difference between this Yautja and previous ones, his mask lacks a respirator and he doesn't appear to need supplemental gases like the ones in the first two movies. The City Hunter in the second film was seen using an emergency respirator in one scene to catch his breath after losing his mask in the meat packing plant.
The one from Predator 2 is the only one with a resperator. And more likely it wasn't an actual resperator, but some sort of inhailer for medication due to his lungs being introduced to buckshot.
@@vladyvhv9579when Jungle Hunter removes his mask, he first detaches gas spilling tubes which implies his mask provides whatever it is he breathes.
Going back to his previous video on the Yautja, it could be the respirator is just for the slightly higher o2 levels they're used to, so they can get by on Earth's slightly lower o2 levels, just get winded quicker than they normally would. But keep in mind that the Jungle Predator was in a humid jungle and the Feral Predator is in the Great Plains in pre-industrial times.
Compare that to the City Hunter who's in the middle of Los Angeles, a highly urbanised area nestled within a valley facing cold water currents, resulting in lots of pollution from cars belching in the air with the geographic location of the city making all that smog stagnate in the air. Combined with trauma to his chest, he'll have a hard time breathing fresh air compared to the Feral and Jungle Predators
I didn't expect this so soon, Im so excited!
They went above and beyond designing "Feral" as people have started calling him, the designer even mentioned his favorite feature being the inclusion of molars in this design that allude to its kind having more osteophagy in their diet.
Bone eating basically, like some pigs, canines, hyenas and bearded vultures.
It sounds so damn cool
_"The real villains of our story: The French"_
*Every Englishman nods knowingly.*
_"I'm legally required to say that's a joke because some guy wrote a dissertation"_
*Every Englishman nods knowingly.*
There are several different clans within the predators all of whom have their own sub species and selective breeding traditions. This predator appears to be a feral predator (who are typically outcasts/criminals) that has been blooded as he has his clan's version of a plasma caster. This predator got himself killed due to the fact he got cocky and stopped respecting his prey.
My understanding was that the feral predator in this film was visiting earth for the first time so the events of this film were his first ever encounters with humans and other animals native to our world. So I think as far as intelligence goes, it could just be assumed that unlike the jungle hunter from the first film who clearly had experience battling human opponents prior to his final fight with Dutch, the feral predator had no experience dealing with humans and possibly little to no experience hunting higher thinking life forms. Something I think we take for granted about the Yautja race is that each one of them is not just a different monster/antagonist for the sake of the film, but a different person/individual. Every film involving the predator (minus The Predator) has endeavored to make their predator different not just in gear or appearance but in personality and the way they conducts themselves. The jungle hunter in Predator was more patient and cautious and took his time rather than Feral who acted on impulses and was more aggressive and clearly preferred a more hands on method. It’s likely that Feral’s death at Naru’s hands was a large part of what shaped the entire Yautja race’s outlook on humans as worthy, whether as prey or in some cases (if you’ve read the comics) allies and prodigies. There’s a lot to say about the predators as a whole but that could be a whole series of videos on its own, I really enjoyed the video and I look for ears to the next upload 😁
I've never seen a Predator movie but listening to other people talk about them, the amount of thought that the creators put into the worldbuilding behind the scenes is really fascinating to me. I thought the Yautja were just, y'know, movie monsters more or less. But the fact that they're all unique _characters,_ with thought put into _characterization_ is really cool, most franchises wouldn't put that kind of thought into it with a species that acts exclusively as antagonists and does not communicate. That's the first thing I've heard that's made me feel like hey, maybe I've been missing out by not watching these movies, lmao. I didn't realize the creators put so much consideration into making a monster that feels like a fully realized alien species.
Actually that was the jungle ones first hunt on Earth as well.
@@cthulhupolar60 Usually most of the encounters were their first hunts of at least humans. I think even in Concrete Jungle its the same case for Scarface. Also for the City Hunter. Seems odd though with how he (Feral) fights compared to that of other predators who killed groups of people without issue. Even in the AVP game for the Xbox 360/PC it was its first hunt of humans and Xenos.
Where does AvP fall at? It showed that the Yautja were on earth during the Aztec civilization period , which implys its like a couple of thousand years before Predator 1.....
@@nivekv-halla4752 the AVP movies are considered their own things now sadly.
I loved Prey, and how it got back to basics and didn’t overthink things. I would have preferred a design more akin to the Jungle or City Hunter under the mask, but even this new take on it and where it came from as explained by the director makes sense. Prey more than makes up for AVP, Predators, and The Predator jibber-jabber.
I thought Predators was better than this. I totally agree about The Predator though!!!
I think Predator 2, Predators and Prey are all good sequels that expand on the lore without wrecking it. AVP 1 & 2 were less good than any of the above Predator films but still did a good job in expanding the lore. The only film i truly hated was The Predator 2019... which tried to rewrite the lore entirely and had no respect for the source material.
Predators was good, it felt pretty close to the first film in terms of atmosphere and did well expanding the lore. I'm not sure why it gets so much hate, probably because it was the first film to introduce a variation of The Yatjua Archetype.
I like prey more than predators but it never seemed like a bad mark on the franchise, at least not to me.
@@euclidshield4932 I remember going to see Predators with my friends in highschool and being pleasantly surprised. AVP/AVPR left a bad taste in my mouth before that lol.
“When she realizes this isn’t the average saiyan warrior.” Just incredible 😂 Fantastic video as usual!!!
Loved the TFS reference for sure😂
If her brother actually had a set of arrows, I whole heartedly believe he would've done waaayyy more damage.
Man was moving mad in that sequence!!
For real, the guy literally had to re use an arrow he already put on the predator, he rolled and pulled it out of his body and shot at him again like a total Chad
Looks like being a badass runs in the family
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 damn predator used his cloak cause he couldn't keep up. Skill issue lol
It's hilarious to me when people say that Naru was OP in this movie and that all the men were useless...bruh what did you not see the licks those warriors were giving the Predator?? They did amazingly well considering by comparison Naru had the whole duration of the movie to figure the creature out, the other guys who got killed had to just fight and die, the fact they hurt it at all is impressive.
@@mrcheesemunch Nobody was saying that the men were useless, though?
@@mrcheesemunch the whole point was Naru was a better hunter cos of her ability to adapt to situations and recognise solutions which is a theme thought the movie (the movie establishes you cant kill the predator head on). also this movie is clearly stylised realism, where the original predator is kind of quite intentionally unrealistic this is more like john wick, so people (including the predator himself) are doing things normal people couldn't but not so ridiculous that it takes you out the movie, unless you're being hypercritical.
I got the feeling in the film that the Predator in Prey was more of a hunting traditionalists rather than technologically inferior to the OG Predator. And as far as physiology goes, the Preydator could be from another planet entirely, like a colony or something, I mean their an interstellar species
Did you come up with Preydator? Genius if so.
@@DanielleFerreira-uk9yt frankly I was to lazy to write Prey Predator 😂
I heard that concept artist confirmed he was from more arid region of Yautoa homeworld and our previous Predators were from more tropical parts
My wife and I were theorizing that Predators would take only the weapons that were fit for the time. So melee weapons and a crossbow, all futuristic of course. We liked that the Predator would only use his hands when fighting with animals, but as soon as their opponent pulled a weapon they can now use a weapon.
It could just be from another part of Yautja prime. Compare a west African like Francis Ngannou who’s like 6’4” and 250 lbs with black skin, a wide nose and curly hair vs an Indonesian who’s 5’2” and 120 lbs with lighter skin, monolids and straight hair. Humans look very different.
I can't express how much I love his design, someone put so much damn effort into designing this thing, and included all those small things like darker skin-tone or longer dreads, it's amazing
I want a movie or show that focuses the perspective of the predator itself, the mannerisms, traditions etc. Getting blooded and SURVIVING continuously getting promoted, learning new tactics and adding to its arsenal
A cultural view of a Yautja would be heckin cool, yea
Yautja's, at least in some variations of the comics were a species that were dominated by a more technologically advanced one, basically they were slaves. They rebelled and won against their masters, hence the tech they have.
Ya, the Imengi I think? They were like bugs.
It makes sense that all their tech came from defeating their more advanced overlords since i can't imagine a species as savage and brutal as the Yautja figuring out space travel and energy weapons on their own. Although this ruins my headcanon of the Yautja developing FTL tech purely out of the need to find bigger and meaner prey since they got bored of the one that already existed on their planet.
@@jesushernanpizarrogonzalez7297 nah they are quite smart, but retain their nature.
Wait it… killed itself through the unluckiest ricochet the world has ever seen? And she’s just gonna take credit for it??
I love these scientific break downs. It makes the creatures you talk about seem much more real.
Hearing you talk about rabbit starvation makes my nerdy heart happy lol. I tried to tell a guy who was talking about surviving on rabbits as his protien source about it. He told me to shut up, so I told him to enjoy his rabbits.
"The Frenchmen ran back to get their stuff and GTFO"
Checks out lol
Considering the three subspecies of Yautja (the two mentioned here, and the Super Predators/Berserker Clan) I would love to hear your opinion of the evolutionary differences of the Super Predators compared to the two talked about here.
The Michael Vincent guy irrc is the one that designed the Feral for the movie. He had a very interesting explanation behind the characteristics and visual choices for the design and you got all of them spot on in this video
Naru is a case of repeatedly getting extremely lucky at every turn
literally she only won against the predator because "women" not to say this isn't a good representation of a strong female character which Is true it is but her only winning because she's a women is true
I like the idea that there are different subspecies/breeds of Yautja, and it makes sense from the lore established in Predator Hunting Grounds that the Predators were originally enslaved by another alien race called the Amengi, who conquered the Predator's ancestors and used selective breeding and genetic engineering, which would explain different variations like the classic Predators, the Super Predators, and now the Feral Predators. Also, there were different species of humans coexisting in prehistoric times, (modern humans, neanderthals and denisovans) so it'd make sense that something similar would happen on the Predator home world
Regarding its intelligence shown in the final encounter, the Yaujta did get shot in the head at point blank range with a musket, which could explain why it fell for her traps etc.
I know this video is 5 months old, but I still love it! I'd like to offer a counter theory for the skull mask. Given that this Yautja is from a desert biome, it probably chose bone over metal, because of the excessive heat of its native biome. Wearing metal of any kind in the desert is a potentially hazardous experience, because the desert will heat up that metal to scalding temperatures. So, it would make sense that the mask that it wears on its head all the time be made of bone, which would not conduct heat so readily as solid metal does, would be chosen. This is also partially supported by the lesser amount of metal armor that this particular Predator wears (compared to the Jungle Yautja), and instead utilizes a shield.
I never thought they were less intelligent I just thought he was not as old or experienced as the Predator from the first movie and let his anger take hold of him.
One of the things I liked about this movie is that, even though they would ultimately lose, the Feral's opponents were still able to deal some damage.
Roanoke: throws all kinds of shade at the Predator for advance weapons and cloaking technology.
Also Roanoke: "Guns are the best! They win every fight no matter what you're fighting!"
I love how predator movies are basically movies that would be the equivalent to a human decked out with guns and gear hunting a rabbit but the rabbit outplays them in the 1v1 and kills the human with the gun.
I want a movie about hunting bears with rpgs now
Its basically the standard story of a person trying pet / manhandle a deer and getting gored to death
It's got huge sharp teeth, it can jump for yards... just lookit the bones!
I mean a rabbit with near human intelligence and enough prep time could probably fuck us up
Soooo…Bugs Bunny?
It is always amazing when you can root for the Predator. Like.. We don't want Naru to die but the Predator attacking the frenchmen is just amazing.
Bruh the way he did the bear trap kill was unnecessarily badass.
"Pokeball, GO!"
That bear trap was awesome, loved the shield bit where he opened it up
I wanted naru to die not cause i hate her or anything but because the predator is always shafted in movies they are in, the predator has every reason to win in most of its movies or even in avp from what we know of predator lore.
@@redjaygaming9757 I agree with the sentiment when it comes to Predator 2. Realistically it should have dusted Danny Glover lol. Predator is a bit more believable because it wiped out 2 different squads of elite soldiers before one of them pulled a fast one and managed to hurt it bad enough to nuke itself. Predators made sense as well because one of them had a bit of background info on the Predators from military Intel, and everybody but the most elite of killers died as well. "The Predator" and AVP/AVPR sucked so bad I wish they didn't exist lol. Naru's survival was heavily influenced by her brother. He did a lot of damage to the Predator before she finished it off with a few sneaky tricks and a lot of luck lol
The fact that there's so much speculation / theories / discussion on the different types of Predators shows how well written they are as characters.
I love the way the film felt fluid on how the predator operated, and how the humans unknowingly or at least figured out his weaknesses on the fly.
Nothing about this movie except the the water in it was fuild it just stumbled around like a dumbass until a malnourished child killed it for that epic ass girl boss moment
It kind of shows both the humans, specially naru, and the predator discovering how each other work for their first times
@@doggo9567 tell me you didn't see the movie without saying "i didn't see the movie"
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 nah I watched it clown but go off
@@doggo9567 bro you’ll be ok
Seemed to me like it was it's first solo hunt. Minimal/primitive armaments, he's more aggressive than others we've seen, could also have been a punishment hunt. My lore is old tho, so it could have all changed.
Honestly a world full of primitive people sounds like a cake walk for any normal predator so it should be a good challenge for any unblooded, too bad this one was too impulsive. Clearly from a bad blood clan.
@@bgill6623 It really leaned into it being her first hunt where something hunts her back, so it mirrored the Predator's hunt. Plus, no trophies on him, until he got the wolf skull.
I honestly hope they put this much thought into the design of the feral as you did breaking it down, I would hate the idea they just made a different Predator because you break this down so well it make alot of sense.
Hey Roanoke, thank you for giving the movie the fair shake. Way to many folks have shot it down and called it the worst without giving it a fair watch. I thought it was great and certainly a fine addition to the series.
Its definitely the best Predator movie since predator 2, and I think I would personally rank Prey higher than Predator 2 myself.
The main thing I saw in their hunting differences was how they used their environment which further supports the biomes they live in
Jungle Predators: Appear smarter because of the amount of cover, opportunities and overall brain teasers thanks to the trees that support them and fauna that pose new hunting challenges
Desert: Open landscape where cliff sides would usually be the more prevalent stationary ambush locations where as they mainly fight on the ground with shields because cover's a luxury they simply didn't have in that environment and standing their ground being the main option they're accustomed to. The lack of hunting opportunity probably "devolved" their tactics to suit the desert wasteland. These are just some observations of seeing wildlife and survivalists interact with these environments for so long, of course so interpretation's always open to change.
I'd still love to see the wildlife they contend with to see how these tactics are utilized in their home turf because there's certainly a reason for them to fear injury enough to cloak themselves instead of make-shift camo and stationary traps like Dutch used.
One thing that is interesting about this predator is how his head when wearing the skull helmet, looks very close to the shape of the prototype predator, the one that they scrapped at the very last moment in the original movie to make the design we know and love. I wonder if they wanted to show that this Predator is more primal than the previous ones, or just simply make a refrence to that original design or just make some connection that may come back in the future. Anyhow I didn't expect that this Predator is gonna actually have a different face structure, I really need to check this movie out (yes I didn't watch the whole video but because I want to watch this movie now, I will surely come back here later ;)
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The predator in prey is most likely a young blood witch means he recently liked his first xenomorph and because the xenomorph is such a good hunter he probably is over estimating himself and it is possible that the rest of his clan is watching him hunt so he is trying to prove himself and collect more trophies and take more risks.
Roanoke Gaming is by far the best channel on my sub list... not to mention you have an actual scientific background!
I feel like the reason the Feral lost is because it was a Youngblood (there ranking for a newly made warrior) and thus he was inexperienced. Cause he struggled more so then every other Predator across the movies. GREAT Vid Roan. You think you can do a Xenomorph video next or sometime soon? Or hell, covering the Mala'akak/Engineers from Prometheus and Alien: Covenant would also be really cool.
Hey Roan! A theory about Yautja cloaking tech inability to function in water has it that the cloak operates by bending light across surface area, in this case the Predator’s body. Water’s surface area is constantly in flux unless it’s stagnant, making light displace abstractly, pretty much overloading the cloak’s sensors and sending it to the Blue Screen Dimension until the software can get its shit together. Something similar happens any time the Predators are hit and wounded, to greater and lesser extent across the films as CGI tech has advanced. You see it most prominently in Prey, where the cloak collapses in small spots.
I forgot why I subscribed to this channel, then you said, "she wasn't feelin' it, Mr. Krabs." Then I remembered.
i think the intelligence diffent between the jungle hunter and the new guy could just be a matter of them as individuals
Amazing video as always. My only nitpick is a minor one, being in regards to the intelligence difference. I believe that has more to do with the class system than it does actual intelligence. Yautja move up the class system based on how skillful they are on hunts. I believe the Feral Predator is either an Un-blooded or Young Blood. Likewise, The Jungle Hunter is a Blooded Predator, which would require a greater degree of wisdom and hunting skill. That would also explain how the Jungle Hunter was able to hunt arguably more dangerous prey (given their weapons) and take much less damage than the Feral Predator, and figure out traps multiple times.
Exactly. This kid was clearly un-blooded, almost certainly his first proper hunt. He was taking trophies from everything, big or small. He clearly just wanted to be able to go back and go "Look at how many sweet fuckin skulls I got".
@@Haitch_Kay yeah, my thoughts exactly. He’s not even at the stage where they’ll send him on his first xeno hunt
Through out the Lore of the Yautja, we've seen many sub species Variants so they Feral could be a lesser or more tribal like compared the rest of its race. This I found interesting and very fun because of bone based armor and the more even though advanced to us the simple tech it used was fun.
I really enjoyed this movie and it gives me hope for the future of this franchise, I had written it off and mourned it's death after seeing the 2018 predator: upgrade garbagefire. I especially enjoyed the portrayal of the predator itself even though i much prefer the original face design (or atleast practical effects). It didn't feel like a copy of the other predators we have seen before, it had it's own personality and style and almost seemed a little inexperienced and careless but it felt like it enjoyed every second of combat and every kill. I hope we get more predator movies throughout different times in history, the franchise seems made for that and not whatever pred:upgrade tried to do. Keep it simple and mostly self contained like this one and expand on the lore in more subtle ways, give each movie its own identity through setting, protagonist and the predator itself and i will be a happy man.
@Dd Dgd You mean _other_ than the fact it trashed on the lore of the franchise entirely and made it look like the guy who made it had no idea what the Yautja are and _made fun of_ everything that came before?
Not to mention the horrible writing and Gods awful Autism plotline?
@Dd Dgd First of all I'm happy for anyone who liked it, really would have loved to like it aswell since Predator is one of my absolute favourite franchises. Obviously thinking somethings trash or not is always a personal taste thing when it comes to art but since you asked and I like to rant about this movie here are a few of my most disliked aspects of upgrade.
Lorewise: I am not a fan of anything upgrade expands on the lore, i don't like the idea of predators collecting dna samples to improve their own species and to me it doesn't fit the behaviour of the predators as they are portrayed in any of the other movies. If you only want dna samples why hunt alone, take trophies and revere them in such a way, why strike fear in your prey and play with it, why throw away your weapons and fight your prey honorably, why respect the guy who killed one of your own and give him a parting gift, why use all these different weapons and seemingly enjoy conflict and combat. Why if you are such an advanced species, don't you use any other way of collecting dna samples rather than slaughtering your target as a lone hunter. It was well established that the predators kill for their own entertainment and cultural admiration of personal strength through pretty much all of their behaviour and no indication for alterior motives were ever given, doesn't mean their couldn't be one, but the motives upgrade now projects into every predator is so specific that it contradicts the other movies. I don't dislike the idea of a self upgrading alien species but it is such a fundamental thing that it's hard to make it make sense with a previously established alien race instead of building a new one from the ground up, which would have been fine. Also the idea of them wanting the autism to improve their species is the biggest cringe ever to me and is only justified by giving the autistic kid litteral superhuman abilities. He uses a piece of the fugitive-preds gear to control the upgrade-preds ship, understands an alien language based on who knows what kind of base communication and understands completely foreign alien technology.
Characters & Dialougue: I am totally fine with jokes and alot of them and I even like it when there are sudden toneshifts but this movie managed to make me cringe at almost every serious attempt to make a joke. The characters talk endlessly about bullshit I personally don't want in my predator film at all, atleast when it's executed this way. To many characters that serve the same pourpose of beeing mildly amusing and disposable as fuck with almost everyone having 1 gimmick and nothing else. There are some of the legitamately stupidest lines I can imagine in this movie... example: "he is growing an EXOskelleton UNDER HIS SKIN" out of the mouth of the biologist chracter, I hope I don't have to explain the stupidity of this line.
Logic: Why don't finish off the preddog after braindamaging it into an earth dog puppy copy? They just let it wander off. Also why do they look so much like the predators, we had much better looking dogs in predators. Why not FUCKING SHOOT YOUR GUN at the predator when he is escaping, every guard in the lab walks up to the predator, rifle pointed at it and not shooting so they can be punched by him. The movies always made it clear that predators are still very mortal vulnerable beeings and to take on a whole facility of soldiers they would need their gear and TACTICS. Seeing one effordlessly berserking through so many humans while almost naked just destroys that feeling and it feels like a marvel movie to me. Why is it possible to take control of the upgrade-preds ship with a part of the wristguard from fugitive-pred? it makes 0 sense that he wouldn't use that super useful feature himself while being chased by said ship. Why is the fugitive-pred killing people in the typical pred way, hanging them from a tree, right after landing even tough he is here to help humanity. Same goes for why does he immediatly attack everthing when waking up, try to communicate with them first there is no good reason for you to assume you would get out of there alive by combat.
Presentation: Cgi looks terrible and even though i like pracical effects, here they look worse than ever before. The upgrade preds design is everything i hate about modern creature design, looks like a pred fucked doomsday or something. Also making it so comically large actually made it less intimidating and scary to me. It also moves in such a lame and unspecial looking way, could be any cgi monster, nothing predator-y about it. There is a specific way the predator moves and you can recognize it even when performed by a naked actor, the upgrade doesn't have to move the same way obviously but he just has nothing to characterize him movementwise (or otherwise) except for big and strong. The pred-iron-man suit is also one of the worst deigns i have ever seen.
(Once again, I am very aware this is all personal taste and opinion and when I state something as fact in here it is a fact of how I feel and I do not need to be reminded of that nor should I have to explain to you that what I write is my opinion and I am aware of that but I want to prevent that type of response-comment, I have said what's on my mind and would love to hear what's on yours, knowig we do not need to agree on any of it for the exchange to be fun :))
This is mostly what came to mind at the moment, haven't watched that movie quite some time so I'm sure I missed alot but I thinks this goes some way to explain why I hate Predator:Upgrade and am banishing it from my headcanon entirely. I hope to hear some reasons for liking it from you in the case that you do like it, I had fun writing this and would have fun reading the opposite opinion honestly since I don't personally know anyone who likes this movie and I would love to know what you like about it.
edit since i just saw one of your other comments: have not read any comics anf don't care about them, going off of my interpretation of the movies and nothing else (i even consider avp only loooosely in my headcanon)
@Dd Dgd What lore specifically?
You mean like the lore shown where the Predators hunt for trophies exclusively (If you're gonna take a DNA sample, why melt _ALL_ the meat away?) And how they're shown to ignore any prey where there's no sport in it? If you're doing it for DNA samples, one person is as good as the next, and a Pregnant woman would actually be best because of the _stem cells_ currently within her body.
And I don't really consider the whole Autism plotline an opinion when it's _literally offensive to people with the disease_ and is actually a massive misunderstanding of both Evolution and the disease.
@Dd Dgd what? You literally ignored everything the man said. He gave you a full blow explanation and you ignored it and changed the subject. Look, if you like shitty movies, just say it. Don’t try to start a flame war because you have trash taste lol
@Dd Dgd You seem incapable of understanding and responding to arguments, thanks for ignoring my answer to your question entirely. I hoped you could help me understand the opposite viewpoint but it seems like you're not interested in expressing your viewpoint in a fitting way. I wanted to see what makes people like the movie and in a way you gave me an answer, you just need a lack lf critical thought, an inability to formulate opinions and be immediatly so offended by opposing viewpoints that you go for personal attacks on people you don't even know. Thanks for that i will keep hating the absulute piece of shit movie you are trying to defend so ineffectively and know that there are no real reasons for me to do otherwise. Bye.
I don't think the tracking bolt or the bone makes them less advance, I think it comes down to specific preferences and customs each clan has. There are people nowadays who still go on hunts using muzzle loader rifles, not because that's their only option but simply because they like it that way. Edit: just got to the part where you say this pretty much exactly lol
Out of all the predators’ spears, Prey’s spear is by far my favorite with its club/spear combo
The axe trick was my favorite part of the movie, it would have been nice if that was her finishing move, just launching it 10 times into the predator
I found it to be really silly. The "rope" turned her tomahawk into Mjolnir! You would think the stiff tree bark rope would mess with the trajectory of the axe. It wouldn't spin right to land properly.
We see her struggling to hit anything with it, she ties the rope on, throws it a few times, the we cut to her with 5 rabbits... All the sudden she is accurate after adding more variables? I am confusion
@@themightycrixus1131 but that was probably 5 weeks of throwing with the rope time looped into 20 throws, but also ignoring the fact an alien predator comes down with cloaking and such
@@one8s7n the Predator is the science fiction part of the movie(where there is no explanation) the earth/human element should be grounded in reality. Otherwise why even shoot it on earth? Makes bo sense.
I didn't know how badly I needed to see a Predator square up with a bear untill I saw this movie.
Loved everything about it
Dude same!
I seriously bet you’re amazing at parties. I can listen to you talk about this stuff for hours!!!
I really liked this movie! I loved how everything circled back, the medicine, the wet bow string breaking, the tactic for luring the cat/predator. I also love her adaptation as she learned the predators tactics. Like setting a trap in the trees because she learned how he moved around. Also I interpreted the scene after her brother died as a parallel/flashback to when her mom got the news that her father died. Because I too could not figure out why the tribe would already know her bro died.
My Favorite Yautjas:
- Jungle Hunter from the 1st Predator
- Feral Predator, a cool additional member of the species
- Scar from AvP movie
- Wolf from AvP Requiem, known to be the Elite despite that movie being bad
- Scarface from Concrete Jungle
- Dark from AvP 2010
Not a bad list at all! Dark’s a pretty underrated predator in the EU let’s see here…my favorites in no direct order!
-lightstepper, a one armed predator that was the first ever shown defeating a predalien, albeit with a humans help. One of the only predators to actually survive for his whole hunt and story.
- Falconer, the most fair of the super predators with a pretty cool drone at his command.
- Feral predator cool behavior with his first go on earth, a good mix of agility strength, and savagery.
- Abel from AVP fire and stone, a really skill full but also pretty funny with his bromance with a human and ongoing quest to kill engineers.
- the fugitive predator, another one armed predator that got caught by the government. Really creepy with his Red eyes and super long organic claws, he ends up taking down a whole advanced security team, but still ends up honorably blowing himself up after getting his gauntlet back.
I fucking LOVED Dark! Plus, it was fun playing as him cause by design you pretty much insert a bit of your own personality into the character.
Predators are fascinating. They are incredibly varied depending on tribe and hunting preferences.
I watched it too, thought I was one of a few people I know to actually notice the difference in appearance between this predator and the last ones. Glad to have you confirm it for us bro. Love the videos and listening to you explain things from a scientific standpoint. Hope everything is going good in your life bro.
Tbh, the differences are quite stark lol.
Most of the people you know aren't movie nerds
While this predator probably is young, it most definitely is not a adolescent or unblooded since predators are not allowed to showcase or wear throphies they did not hunt themselves so its mask would mean it had atleast done its first hunt.
Its clan also seems to be borderline badbloods with how loosely it adheres to their honor code, the plasma disks it used and in the way those were used would instantly get it marked off as a bad blood.
Then there is also the bitching out when he was getting beat by Naru's brother, this would also get it in trouble with their honor code.
Besides that the armor and weaponry seem more cultural with the shield and its combispear that turns into a sword and club and that would also make sense why they use no plasmacasters.
They really put hard work into this movie.
An actually good modern Predator movie!? Amazing!
Video suggestion: Do the physiology of the Lizards from Rain World and maybe also the Slugcats in a separate video
Not only a good predator movie, a good movie in general
It's a solid 5/10 or 6/10
Predators would have been good if it were R rated instead of PG-13
@@thehandsomeone8369 predators *is* R rated. So is every other predator movie except AVP.
I am suprised that the video doesnt include the such referred super predators more throughtly as they were the first yautja subspecies that has officially revealed also Predators movie is underrated severely
Honestly yautja evolving into subspecies and more varied types makes absolute sense as we supposed to talk about an interstellar species with extreme tech and able to colonize wide variety of planets with many biomes! They should represent some physical changes as we talk about even under the best circumstances martian colonist would definitely look very very differentiated or taller than earthborne humans
Even then, I think we’ve seen some ethnic variations before.
In the AVPs, members of that clan had really long (quills? Spikes?).
Another had a ridged head, rather than smooth.
That’s all I remember right now though
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They even hunt differently just like earth animals, the jungle ones like in the first predator stricks at the right and perfect moment stalking the prey and if they get caught they'll try to still get to perfect moment to strike, circling a lot more. In the deserts being super fast, bigger and deal out more damage, like our feral friend in Prey, all the alphas we've seen also seem to be really scavangery just like most the desert animals on earth.
Kinda cool
I'm actually at a crossroad with this movie. It has its good moments, but there were questionable moments too. It's supposed to be set in the same world as the first Predator movie. Yes, this Predator was vastly different than the one Dutch fought given the time difference. I wished the fight scenes were more believable. Dutch looked to be 200+lbs, was in a military special force, and probably 6ft. Hits he took from the Predator he fought knocked him down and hurt him badly. Hits Naru took or blocked from her Predator didn't leave her any serious injuries. She's far smaller than Dutch...
Feral is also smaller than the predator dutch fought. He comes across as a rookie.
@@RebelTvShka yeah but Feral also killed a fucking grizzly bear with its bare hands and lifted it up over it's head. If Feral hits a human they are going to go flying and be injured very badly, especially if it's a woman cause their bones aren't as dense as a man's
It's all part of that "strong independent woman" thing that Hollywood is pushing. Now don't get me wrong as Naru makes plenty of mistakes so she at least isn't a Mary Sue
@@tiredman99 it's because she's the protagonist. plot armor is very common [it's an action movie, it has to be.]
just look at any action or heist movie from the past 20 years, same shit.
@@jar-of-bees very true but I don't think it's ever been that thick before. As Dutch got completely tossed by his predator as did Danny Glover's character
Roanoke really giving the "would i win this fight? No, but that damn sure doesn't stop me from trying."
One thought that I had a few days after watching the movie was that this yautja's mask lacks the air part of the more known one. My understanding was that the Yautja require a higher volume of oxygen in their air, so perhaps the not smart moves that the "ferral" yautja made, was because it was suffering from oxygen deprivation, like a human being at a really high altitude.
Yes. I like this explanation. This predator was running on 5% brain capacity😂
Thats why he needed the mask. Able to breath through with it through his nose.
@@tristanbackup2536 it doesn't work like that. It requires hoses and such
Without any breathing apparatus, the Yautja can stay on the ground for about a week, so that's probably not the case
@@traperzdbd6148 And humans can be at high altitude for extended periods of time. Doesn't mean there isn't some effects.