Sorry it was not, this is not the San Soo Jimmy taught, this is what happens when someone of much lesser skills thinks he can make it better. these guys would get their asses kicked by any real San Soo fighter. Go look at Jimmy or even Kathy Long.
Check out Dan Rowland and Leon Smith! Leon Smith weighs around 280 pounds. He was an all conference tight end in college. Dan Rowland is a beast! 240 pounds with incredible techniques. He's an expert in Kickboxing and grappling too. These monsters can hurt anybody!
You have a perfectly good point, and one that I agree with. However, these kinds of promotions have nothing to do with true, effective street worthiness, and they shouldn't either. Most martial arts and martial artists have nothing to do with actual, real and true fighting. That is not their true purpose, no matter what they say and express to their students, and themselves. Traditional martial arts, today, have little to nothing to do with effective combat on the street. There are, in my view, three main reasons people train. 1- to have something to do (and or feel like they can do it effectively if ever needed.) 2- for the sport aspect 3- for real combat Most fall into the 1st category. These kinds of people think that your average Karate studio teaches real fighting, or that traditional Kata is an effective training tool, for combat. I would expect not a single one of these guys would be able to handle themselves in a true life/death fight against a real fighter. Not a street thug, they are easy to beat up, I mean a real, trained fighter. But I bet every one of them thinks they could. Now, with all that said there are many, many reasons people train a martial art and Fighting is only a very small aspect of it. These guys are not truly showing us their ability to fight they are showing us that they have spent many, many hours (and dollars) learning these prearranged sets that make them feel better about themselves, and that is as good as a reason to train as any other is.
Depends on the art. Any combat sport will turn a hobbyist into much more than what we see here. Against a trained fighter no but thats a different catagory
@@zenshinacademy4096 I agree, that in this American culture the Way of Survival is dressed down and the Strategies watered down because Law Enforcement does not trust the US Public anymore. My Uncle knew Jimmy Woo who brought San Soo to the USA and my Uncle is aplayer in Tong Long Pai, Pai Yun, Ling Sing Toy, Kuntao, and many more since he was 7 years old. We do not teach outside of Family let alone just Chinese or Asians. It is where the person must be trusted with both the Cultural, Spiritual and Family aspects of OUR Ways before we teach any person from the Chinese Culture or another Asian Culture and we do NOT teach Westerners. Some Sigong's, Sifu's and Guru's do and even then it is rare. It is rare for those who know these to want to teach it because it causes more problems than it will solve. It is why we call these Players the "Scholarly Warriors". No brain attached is just not what these ways are supposed to be? Even Miyamoto Musashi was an Engineer? Even Shaolin Monks were also learned in Math, Philosophy, and History?
I agree but how would you do it differently I trained under two Sifus for a total of about 20 yrs. Both of whom were 1st gen. students who trained under Lo Sifu Chin Su Dek. unfortunately Jimmy died just before I was scheduled to meet him and train in one of his black belt classes. One thing I would do is stop all the unnecessary vocals. Jimmy said San Soo fighter didn't make noise that the special breathing noises were for training purposes only, Bill Lasiter ,who according to 1st generation Masters, who would know, said Bill never could get the breathing right so he yelled a lot during techniques. Seems like Hopkins trained under Bill. I'm not saying Bill was not very skilled, he wash was one of the best BUT but the screaming was not Jimmy's San Soo. ''
This was an amazing demo! Feel like a kid in a candy shop. So many amazing techniques!
Sorry it was not, this is not the San Soo Jimmy taught, this is what happens when someone of much lesser skills thinks he can make it better. these guys would get their asses kicked by any real San Soo fighter. Go look at Jimmy or even Kathy Long.
I miss San Soo so much ! Bad Knees>< Old Age and other issues has put me on the side !
Check out Dan Rowland and Leon Smith! Leon Smith weighs around 280 pounds. He was an all conference tight end in college. Dan Rowland is a beast! 240 pounds with incredible techniques. He's an expert in Kickboxing and grappling too. These monsters can hurt anybody!
May 2016
When the other guy doesn’t defend himself is easy
You have a perfectly good point, and one that I agree with. However, these kinds of promotions have nothing to do with true, effective street worthiness, and they shouldn't either. Most martial arts and martial artists have nothing to do with actual, real and true fighting. That is not their true purpose, no matter what they say and express to their students, and themselves. Traditional martial arts, today, have little to nothing to do with effective combat on the street. There are, in my view, three main reasons people train. 1- to have something to do (and or feel like they can do it effectively if ever needed.) 2- for the sport aspect 3- for real combat Most fall into the 1st category. These kinds of people think that your average Karate studio teaches real fighting, or that traditional Kata is an effective training tool, for combat. I would expect not a single one of these guys would be able to handle themselves in a true life/death fight against a real fighter. Not a street thug, they are easy to beat up, I mean a real, trained fighter. But I bet every one of them thinks they could. Now, with all that said there are many, many reasons people train a martial art and Fighting is only a very small aspect of it. These guys are not truly showing us their ability to fight they are showing us that they have spent many, many hours (and dollars) learning these prearranged sets that make them feel better about themselves, and that is as good as a reason to train as any other is.
Depends on the art. Any combat sport will turn a hobbyist into much more than what we see here. Against a trained fighter no but thats a different catagory
@@zenshinacademy4096 I agree, that in this American culture the Way of Survival is dressed down and the Strategies watered down because Law Enforcement does not trust the US Public anymore. My Uncle knew Jimmy Woo who brought San Soo to the USA and my Uncle is aplayer in Tong Long Pai, Pai Yun, Ling Sing Toy, Kuntao, and many more since he was 7 years old. We do not teach outside of Family let alone just Chinese or Asians. It is where the person must be trusted with both the Cultural, Spiritual and Family aspects of OUR Ways before we teach any person from the Chinese Culture or another Asian Culture and we do NOT teach Westerners. Some Sigong's, Sifu's and Guru's do and even then it is rare. It is rare for those who know these to want to teach it because it causes more problems than it will solve. It is why we call these Players the "Scholarly Warriors". No brain attached is just not what these ways are supposed to be? Even Miyamoto Musashi was an Engineer? Even Shaolin Monks were also learned in Math, Philosophy, and History?
San Soo isn't for show like this. Goes to show when a weenie learns it and weenieism creeps in.
I agree but how would you do it differently I trained under two Sifus for a total of about 20 yrs. Both of whom were 1st gen. students who trained under Lo Sifu Chin Su Dek. unfortunately Jimmy died just before I was scheduled to meet him and train in one of his black belt classes. One thing I would do is stop all the unnecessary vocals. Jimmy said San Soo fighter didn't make noise that the special breathing noises were for training purposes only, Bill Lasiter ,who according to 1st generation Masters, who would know, said Bill never could get the breathing right so he yelled a lot during techniques. Seems like Hopkins trained under Bill. I'm not saying Bill was not very skilled, he wash was one of the best BUT but the screaming was not Jimmy's San Soo.
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Hahahiaaaaheeeiaaaahahuuueeeiiii nur scheiß am schreien und nichts, 👎.
Amen!
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