The thing with Phelps in the 200 and 400IM is that he was undoubtedly the best butterfly swimmer in the race, even if going at less than 100% intensity. Could argue the same applies with freestyle and backstroke too. He was obviously a weaker breast-stroke swimmer than Lochte, but because of the scale of his fly dominance, Phelps could take the first 150m of the race fairly easily and still be level with Lochte, who would be busting a gut to stay within touching distance. This meant that despite being 'level' going into the breast stroke leg, and therefore perceived to be at a slight disadvantage, he had enough left in the tank to throw everything in the tank on his weakest stroke, giving him an advantage in the free which he was never going to relent. It's the same reason you often rarely saw Phelps in a commanding lead after the fly leg, despite obviously comfortably being the best butterfly swimmer in the race - he would just gently work that first 150m.
michael phelps is the best EVER IN 400IM AND 200IM. He´s dominated these two events which are the most difficult ones in swimming for 7 years and have never lost in these two events in 8 years.
Can we just take a moment to realise that at the 200, Phelps was a full second behind record pace and then one lap later, he's .33 ahead of it? Goes to show how much he'd improved his breaststroke.
Every time I watch him swim, I'm like "wait for the last turn, here it comes, here it comes..ohhhhh no way!" Started beasting the last turn of whatever I'm doing in training now.
@juandi2570 Ryan Lochte holds the world record in the 200IM... And the open water distance events are harder than 200 and 400IM. Many would argue a strong case for the 1500 as well.
@eb821 , yeah i know but Bolt lost too. The great ones mean business when Important events come around like the Olympic Games and World Championships. We''ll see next year.
stop dreamin'. Michael is the best ever. Do you know that Michael just smashed the world record at beijing today? Martin didn't ever make it to the podium.
NO world I don't hate Michael Phelps for smoking pot. Thousands of colleges kids smoke pot every year and they just get taken into jail for less then a day and everyone forgets about it with in a week. Phelps smokes pot and all of the sudden he's a huge disgrace to the planet like no one else has ever done it. He's human. He makes mistakes. So don't go acting like you're all so perfect. Thumbs up if you agree
@DD7n , not really. Have you swum the 400IM, do it and come and post again................................. The 200 back, 200 fly, 200IM and 400Im are tougher than the 1500 free.
@aaacacaas read my comment and then speak out. I said Michael Phelps is the best ever in both events i can prove it in a thousand ways. Now, i don't know if Phelps is on top on 200 but he will be when London comes around.
@Twaindude Yeah that was insane. If he had a faster butterfly stroke, at least keeping up with the rest of the field, he could have won the race. Oh well...
Wow, it looks like Marin's 100m fly was like over a minute. I got a better time than that to make nationals. I was just swimming the 100m fly, though, and not the 400 but still, the fact that he came back from that to get bronze is amazing.
It is just much weaker when compared to the other swimmers. But his last 3 legs of the IM were faster than Lochte or Phelps I think. He almost caught Lochte and made up some ground on Phelps.
@hotjulio123, listen man, im not arguing that Lochte is the best right now. My argument is pretty damn simple: "You can't beat 14 Gold Medals in Olympic History, 22 Worlds, 35+World Records, 7 Golds in one single World Championship and 8 Olympic Golds in one single Olympic Games. You CAN'T BEAT THOSE ACHIEVEMENTS. You dare to asked "Best ever at what" and Im brutalizing your argument like a 10 year old would do.....................hahahahha
It's funny how Marin outsplit Phelps by 0.89 over the last 300 m but is incredibly slow over the first 100 m.
Because his jump start was very terrible.
@@wesw7241 no it was his Butterfly that was very bad, noy only the start
@@simone.simone that butterfly is horrible
@@dragos9134 yes but he managed to do a very good time and almost beated Lochte. Not bad
i remember watching this race. it was truly what made me love the sport and got me into it
Am I the only one more impressed with Luka Marin? I mean his fly leg was something like 1:00
+powerfin7 The start was also awful if you compare to the others.
powerfin7 if his fly was better I think for a fact that he would have broke the 400 Im world record if Micheal wasn’t there
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The thing with Phelps in the 200 and 400IM is that he was undoubtedly the best butterfly swimmer in the race, even if going at less than 100% intensity. Could argue the same applies with freestyle and backstroke too. He was obviously a weaker breast-stroke swimmer than Lochte, but because of the scale of his fly dominance, Phelps could take the first 150m of the race fairly easily and still be level with Lochte, who would be busting a gut to stay within touching distance. This meant that despite being 'level' going into the breast stroke leg, and therefore perceived to be at a slight disadvantage, he had enough left in the tank to throw everything in the tank on his weakest stroke, giving him an advantage in the free which he was never going to relent. It's the same reason you often rarely saw Phelps in a commanding lead after the fly leg, despite obviously comfortably being the best butterfly swimmer in the race - he would just gently work that first 150m.
at his best phelps the better at every stroke, Lochte possibly shades him on backstroke, but even then its close
Phelps:
25.56 Fly
55.05
1:26.70 Back
1:58.18
2:33.30 Breast
3:09.33
3:38.43 Free
4:06.22
Lochte:
26.13 Fly
55.99
1:27.08 Back
1:58.15
2:34.45 Breast
3:11.54
3:41.14 Free
4:09.74
Marin:
28.07 Fly
59.60 (31.53) jeez that is some slow butterfly
1:31.02 Back
2:01.83 (30.81)
2:36.95 Breast (35.12)
3:12.96 (36.01)
3:42.30 Free (29.34)
4:09.88 (27.58)
michael phelps is the best EVER IN 400IM AND 200IM. He´s dominated these two events which are the most difficult ones in swimming for 7 years and have never lost in these two events in 8 years.
Just awesome..
Cseh improved tremendously in just 1 year to land at the podium the next year!
He already had a 4:10 by 2007, his form was terrible here.
Can we just take a moment to realise that at the 200, Phelps was a full second behind record pace and then one lap later, he's .33 ahead of it? Goes to show how much he'd improved his breaststroke.
1.03 ahead, isn't it?
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Every time I watch him swim, I'm like "wait for the last turn, here it comes, here it comes..ohhhhh no way!" Started beasting the last turn of whatever I'm doing in training now.
I've been swimming for 9 years, and I'm always jealous of their dolphin kicks off the walls, Its like, so smooth and stuff. xD
so so so so soooooooooooooooooooo amazing!!! how does he make so many records? he really is superman
holy shit marin's back-breast-free ,ust have been crazy to recover the distance he lost in fly
Awesome MP.. Congrats on all your success. . G.O.A.T.. I love u okay!? :)
If Marin had come in level with Ryan after the fly, i swear he would have won this race
@BlatterArteries His name is Lucca Marin, the regular medley swimmer from Italy
did anyone else notice that the guy that was in last in the beginning, almost got second in the end?
Michael Phelps, Ryan Lochte. The two reasons the United States always dominates swimming.
Imagine Marin had Phelps' fly.... Phelps would have had some real competition then.
Luca Marin is sensational!
My coach Dave Wharton got the WR in the late 80's in this event, and he's half deaf. I wonder how Phelps would do in swimming deaf?
@fruitsandpi he is Luca Marin.. hope he'll return to this level!!
@juandi2570 Ryan Lochte holds the world record in the 200IM...
And the open water distance events are harder than 200 and 400IM. Many would argue a strong case for the 1500 as well.
there still here.. i don't get whats to miss? They'll be seen in the olympics this year.
@aaacacaas That's why he also defeated Ossama Mellouli (the reigning leader in 1500m freestyle) for 3rd place
phelps just broke that WR in a legal suit
Indubbiamente phelps è il migliore!!
Ian Crocker false started in a relay exchange in the Prelims.
the guy in lane 5 has some balls
@eb821 , yeah i know but Bolt lost too. The great ones mean business when Important events come around like the Olympic Games and World Championships. We''ll see next year.
@hololop I do't like to disagree with people but .. as i'm a swimmer, i love to see the prep :)
@hotjulio123 , a year doesn't tell the whole story. Let's wait and see after 2012. Michael is the undisputed best ever.
stop dreamin'. Michael is the best ever. Do you know that Michael just smashed the world record at beijing today? Martin didn't ever make it to the podium.
Did ANYONE notice where Luca Marin started compared to where he finished..."Yawn..butterfly...REST OF RACE??It be time to get some"
SUPER MAN !
Фантастический Майкл!!!!!!!!!!!!
I KNOW! that was hilarious! you look back in the fly and marin was 20 yards back! LOL:) PHELPS FTW! :)
aha the description says Phelps "smokes" the competition. Lolll am i the only one that noticed the pun :D
Micheal Phelps Is My Swimming Idol!! i am gonna be like him one day (:
and he did it in a jammer!
@rhertz3 he didn't lose, he chosed to not swim that event.
The Baltimore Bullet!
how did marin come back!!!!!!
the guy who was third was dead last at the first 100 meter butterfly but then he almost came in second in the end... wow...
@juandi2570 i dont think they are the most difficult in swimming. 400IM is pretty tough but the 1500 and the 200 fly are defo harder than 200IM
damn! he makes it look so easy! every swimmer knowns how hard it is to swim 400 IM
Phelps = total enialation!
Wow if he had a split around phelps/lochte the rest of his race would put him around 4:05ish... wonder what his problem is!
Have you noticed that his dad is never there? That's because dolphins aren't allowed to sit in chairs.
when phelps is doing the backstroke it looks like his arms are legs.. they're so freakin big ;P
NO world I don't hate Michael Phelps for smoking pot. Thousands of colleges kids smoke pot every year and they just get taken into jail for less then a day and everyone forgets about it with in a week. Phelps smokes pot and all of the sudden he's a huge disgrace to the planet like no one else has ever done it. He's human. He makes mistakes. So don't go acting like you're all so perfect. Thumbs up if you agree
@DD7n , not really. Have you swum the 400IM, do it and come and post again................................. The 200 back, 200 fly, 200IM and 400Im are tougher than the 1500 free.
Where would Marin have been if he could swim fly??
Because your daddy
@aaacacaas read my comment and then speak out. I said Michael Phelps is the best ever in both events i can prove it in a thousand ways. Now, i don't know if Phelps is on top on 200 but he will be when London comes around.
pradagirl737 what do you mean at western zones sol. cal or pacific always wins
@aaacacaas read my comment. I said Phelps is the best ever which is true. Now I don't know but he will be when london comes around.
Not even close. Phelps killed it in Beijing breaking 4:04. Now THAT is a hard one to beat.
@juandi2570 isn't 1500 m freestyle the hardest cause it's like the longest?
The thing is lochte is a fantastic all time great of a swimmer....phelps makes him looks silly....
phélpss is the best in the wolrd........o!
one year later he went 4:03
how come he is swimming like that so fast?
hi im Phelps! how is every one?
yep and it was a one time thing. he gets drug tested regularly now because he's part of some organization that i cant remember
YOU DON'T SAY!
@thedccomedy nice man! :) haha my best is only a 2:50 and i thought that was pretty fast lol....
Wow in my school they make us do 400m as a warm up haha! a real challenge is a 1600m nobody in my school has ever finished it :D
out of the normal!!!
he is a monster!!
phelps...the best
Starts at 3:23
if you look at this race, phelps is just wearing shorts, or kneeskin, or whatever, so it's not because of the suits
Yea lol, he was so behind I thought he slipped on the blocks
michael phelps is the bets :D
@juandi2570 Not anymore Lochte beat Phelps yesterday.
lol marins fly
@Twaindude Yeah that was insane. If he had a faster butterfly stroke, at least keeping up with the rest of the field, he could have won the race. Oh well...
4:25 hungrarian 😂
@fruitsandpi he is like me! My butterfly sucks, but I compensate grandly with my back, breast and crawl.
no kidding. can't believe he came back to almost get second after how terrible that leg was.
well when marin gets 8 gold in one olympics with 7 world records right behind that, then we can talk...
9.00 size a those fingers.
SUPER MAN on His Way Home~~ 7:14
Never
400 m is nothing
i do 5-6 km ever morning
and our warm up is 1500 m and we do tht every day
the announcer is wrong at the end of the video...czeh didnt beat phelps in 2005, phelps didnt swim the 400IM in 2005
2:34 yakult!
lochte died so hard in the end
@PasteyWhiteLuvAffair He would probably do fine
hmm..never swan the 400 im but 200IM is 2:35.54
Wow, it looks like Marin's 100m fly was like over a minute. I got a better time than that to make nationals. I was just swimming the 100m fly, though, and not the 400 but still, the fact that he came back from that to get bronze is amazing.
@juandi2570 he lost to lochte in the 200im this year
thats why he won every event he entered right? Yeah, I guess that means he sucks.
@Nizimi123 no i am
It is just much weaker when compared to the other swimmers. But his last 3 legs of the IM were faster than Lochte or Phelps I think. He almost caught Lochte and made up some ground on Phelps.
@fruitsandpi back halfer..haha.
@hotjulio123, listen man, im not arguing that Lochte is the best right now. My argument is pretty damn simple: "You can't beat 14 Gold Medals in Olympic History, 22 Worlds, 35+World Records, 7 Golds in one single World Championship and 8 Olympic Golds in one single Olympic Games. You CAN'T BEAT THOSE ACHIEVEMENTS. You dare to asked "Best ever at what" and Im brutalizing your argument like a 10 year old would do.....................hahahahha
1:00 micheal phelps try hard to be like micheal phelps guy
@PandaAttackForce 25 would only just qualify for regionals where im from ;P
@fruitsandpi maybe if he kept up with them on the fly he could of won >.>
I remember the first time i did a 200 IM i puked, I can't imagine doing double lol
uh...... screw phelps. did anyone see how far behind marin was after the fly? yeah.... he almost beat lochte
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